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| magg | yo! | 00:17 |
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| magg | i having trouble configuring swift and horizon | 00:17 |
| magg | I'm having this error | 00:18 |
| magg | http://pastebin.com/w6HxYfaB | 00:18 |
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| maplebed | Does anybody here have swift-drive-audit hooked into nagios? Or, to ask another way, how do you have your monitoring set up to alert you when a disk fails? | 00:20 |
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| magg | anybody? | 00:27 |
| maplebed | sorry, I don't use horizon. but it looks like some service that needs to be isn't listening or you're trying to connect to a bad IP. | 00:27 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036449 in nova "live migration fails with wrong number of arguments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036449 | 00:31 |
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| JoeJulian | What does nova-dhcpbridge do? I can't find any documentation for it. | 00:44 |
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| renuka | russellb: Could you please check if I am right about this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1036449 | 00:50 |
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| kpepple | JoeJulian: it updates the DHCP lease databases on nova's behalf (to grant/revoke IP addresses for instances) | 00:56 |
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| JoeJulian | What I'm looking for is to use my existing isc dhcp server to assign addresses. I was hoping that was what that did, but I configured that and set nova-network to my dhcp server, but it doesn't seem to do that. Should it? Or (better yet) is there a way? | 01:02 |
| * JoeJulian is lazy and doesn't want to renumber his network. | 01:03 | |
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| desai | JoeJulian: what are you trying to accomplish exactly? | 01:33 |
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| russellb | renuka: you're right. thanks, and sorry. | 01:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036470 in glance "incorrect image checksum cause re-raise TypeError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036470 | 02:35 |
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| sfvg | hello all. does anyone know how to load folsom-2 into devstack? | 03:13 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036481 in quantum "Comment on quantum_plugin_base_v2.py is outdated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036481 | 03:16 |
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| sfvg | hello all. does anyone know how to load folsom-2 into devstack? | 03:36 |
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| sfvg | hello all. does anyone know how to load folsom-2 into devstack? | 03:44 |
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| vincent_hou | zhuadl: r u there? | 05:22 |
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| fitzdsl | morning guys | 06:16 |
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| kviiri | Morning | 06:16 |
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| rootard | Is it well known that glance does not clean up after itself? | 06:26 |
| rootard | glance+swift | 06:26 |
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| mikal | rootard: as in not delete images from disk which have been deleted by the user in the api? | 06:37 |
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| rootard | mikal: as in swift encounters a problem and keeps data around while glance knows nothing about it | 06:58 |
| rootard | I added a comment to the closest bug I could find: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1019421 | 06:59 |
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| mikal | rootard: I haven't heard that before, but I'm not a glance expert | 07:02 |
| mikal | The bug update sounds like a good idea | 07:02 |
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| rootard | mikal: I imagine that could actually be costly. The upload only fails about 500 MBs in but a user attempting to reupload something a bunch of times could quickly fill space. Unless you are watching closely (which I imagine people are not) swift will just have a bunch of extra entries floating around that may never be cleaned up. | 07:08 |
| zykes- | anyone know of any enterprise that's actually running openstack now ? | 07:09 |
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| kviiri | I work at one, if you count this as an enterprise | 07:09 |
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| zhuadl | vicent_hou: hello | 07:10 |
| zykes- | kviiri: which company ? | 07:10 |
| rootard | zykes-: maybe http://www.openstack.org/community/companies/ is a good start? | 07:10 |
| kviiri | zykes-: IT Center for Science (http://www.csc.fi/english) | 07:11 |
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| zykes- | enterprises as in not service providers / similar | 07:11 |
| zykes- | as in Banks, Oil&Gas | 07:11 |
| zhuadl | vincent_hou: hello,there? | 07:12 |
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| vincent_hou | zhuadl: yes? | 07:12 |
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| zhuadl | vincent_hou: it's done? | 07:13 |
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| zynzel | zykes-: yes, for example 'my' company ;) | 07:17 |
| zynzel | but probably cant tell name... :) | 07:17 |
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| fitzdsl | in nova-network, is that possible to have multiple IP range for one tenant ? (public range on one bridge and private range on an other bridge ?) | 07:23 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036547 in nova "SQLAlchemy-Migration issue raised when running ./run_test.sh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036547 | 09:08 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036493 in nova "Command "nova remove-floating-ip" removes connection of IP to Server without checking the mapping between them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036493 | 09:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036497 in quantum "implement DB and allocation logic for port host_routes" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036497 | 09:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036501 in glance "v2 image create returns 200, should be 201" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036501 | 09:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036507 in glance "v2 API isn't updating image updated_at attribute" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036507 | 09:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036535 in quantum "Set quantumclient version in pip-require to ">=2.0"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036535 | 09:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036533 in quantum "pip requires missing common modules" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036533 | 09:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036571 in horizon "ImportError: No module named openstack_auth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036571 | 09:56 |
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| p3n74D4v1d | hey guys | 11:03 |
| p3n74D4v1d | anybody tried to use quota | 11:03 |
| p3n74D4v1d | on a virtual machine | 11:03 |
| p3n74D4v1d | I have an error message when trying | 11:04 |
| kyriakos | nova quota? or filesystem quota ? | 11:04 |
| p3n74D4v1d | filesystem quota | 11:06 |
| kyriakos | what error do you get? | 11:06 |
| p3n74D4v1d | gimm one minute | 11:06 |
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| hello | hi have some question regarding kvm | 11:08 |
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| p3n74D4v1d | quotaon: using //quota.group on /dev/disk/by-label/cloudimg-rootfs [/]: No such process | 11:10 |
| p3n74D4v1d | quotaon: Quota format not supported in kernel. | 11:10 |
| p3n74D4v1d | quotaon: using //quota.user on /dev/disk/by-label/cloudimg-rootfs [/]: No such process | 11:10 |
| p3n74D4v1d | quotaon: Quota format not supported in kernel. | 11:10 |
| p3n74D4v1d | kyriakos, there they are | 11:10 |
| p3n74D4v1d | quotacheck shows no mistake | 11:10 |
| kyriakos | p3n74D4v1d, http://askubuntu.com/questions/109585/quota-format-not-supported-in-kernel | 11:11 |
| hello | explaining my situation first ... after going thru openstack i understood that it is sort of a management layer and interacts with hypervisors like kvm or qemu thru libvirt api's | 11:11 |
| kyriakos | this sounds similar to ahat you're describing | 11:11 |
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| hello | my task is to change some code in kvm-qemu and then integrate it with openstack | 11:12 |
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| hello | any idea about how should i go about? | 11:13 |
| hello | where to get the kvm-qemu code and how to then integrate the binaries with openstack | 11:13 |
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| hello | maybe i need to change something in libvirt api's as well | 11:14 |
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| hello | hi have some question regarding kvm and openstack integration | 11:18 |
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| kviiri | My VMs get stuck in "spawning" "building" state... | 11:19 |
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| kviiri | And the compute nodes' logs show nothing of value | 11:20 |
| hello | hi any help? | 11:20 |
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| uksysadmin | hello hello, what do you mean? you just configure nova to use kvm, no need to do any code changes. | 11:27 |
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| uksysadmin | kviiri, this could mean you've not got all services running | 11:29 |
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| kviiri | uksysadmin: Seems feasible, I'm currently looking into them | 11:29 |
| uksysadmin | (one being nova-compute if its not producing logs) | 11:29 |
| uksysadmin | sudo nova-manage service list and check for XXX | 11:29 |
| kviiri | It's producing logs, but nothing of value | 11:29 |
| uksysadmin | sudo nova-manage logs error | 11:29 |
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| kviiri | Apart from a warning: 1 instance found in the database but not on the hypervisor | 11:30 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, ok so the scheduling is working - are you running openstack inside a vm for testing and jave kvm set when it should be qemu? | 11:30 |
| kviiri | It should be KVM | 11:31 |
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| hello | no, my task is to modify some code in kvm-qemu, and then i want to integrate that modified kvm with openstack | 11:31 |
| kviiri | Also, my nova.conf is copied from another working node | 11:32 |
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| hello | openstack as such does not have the kvm code , it just uses the hypervisor | 11:32 |
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| hello | so my question is where to get the code for kvm and then how to change integrate the binaries that i generate with openstack | 11:35 |
| hello | uksysadmin: am i clear | 11:35 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, I know I'm about to get frowned at, but have you rebooted the box? I've had this before and despite restarting all required services things still didn't work as expected. Reboot fixed whether this cleared out some temp state or lock on a file, but could be worth a try. | 11:37 |
| kviiri | Yes, I've rebooted it | 11:37 |
| uksysadmin | hello, what is it you want to achieve? openstack and kvm already work great. I presume you want to enhance something? | 11:38 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, damn. ;-) | 11:38 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, what is your set up? how many nodes? | 11:38 |
| kviiri | Four compute nodes, one network node | 11:40 |
| kviiri | Quantum | 11:41 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, how can i solve this problem "Instance found in database but not known by hypervisor. Setting power state to NOSTATE" ? | 11:43 |
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| kviiri | Well I'll be damned, sounds like the exact same issue I'm having | 11:43 |
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| alex88 | kviiri, what? | 11:45 |
| kviiri | alex88: I'm having the same warning in logs. The actual problem is VMs getting stuck in spawning/building state | 11:46 |
| alex88 | kviiri, actually i've solved going to /var/lib/nova/instances/[each folder of vm in that state] and then virsh create libvirt.xml | 11:47 |
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| alex88 | the problem is that now i can't restart the vm | 11:48 |
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| kviiri | Oh, I'll see if that does the trick | 11:48 |
| kviiri | But if it does, is there any way to actually fix it? | 11:48 |
| hello | uksysadmin: yah , i am working on enhancing some features in kvm, particularly involving how images are stored ( qcow2 format ) | 11:48 |
| hello | i am not sure how to start | 11:49 |
| hello | which kvm code to change and then make openstack use the modified kvm | 11:50 |
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| alex88 | kviiri, you should know why it goes in that state | 11:51 |
| kviiri | I know why it goes there, I don't know why it stays there forever (heh) | 11:51 |
| alex88 | no idea… i've solved the problem, but now it doesn't reboot | 11:52 |
| alex88 | let's see what happens if i restart compute service | 11:52 |
| kviiri | instance doesn't get generated in /var/lib/nova/instances | 11:54 |
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| hello | uksysadmin: hi | 11:58 |
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| alex88 | kviiri, strange.. for me, after a reboot, instance arent anymore in virsh list | 12:02 |
| kviiri | Have a strange time... with OpenStack :P | 12:03 |
| kviiri | My instances show up on the correct node on the controller node, in spawning / building state. They don't show on Virsh list nor do they appear in /var/lib/nova/instances | 12:04 |
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| alex88 | maybe it's not able to download the image from glance | 12:06 |
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| kviiri | Would that be an option if another node was working properly? | 12:07 |
| * kviiri is doublechecking the conf files to be sure | 12:08 | |
| koolhead11 | Inside flatdhcp is there a way to provide nameserver specifically? | 12:08 |
| koolhead11 | doing --flat_network_dhcp_start=192.168.4.33 <-- results 192.168.4.33 as my nameserver | 12:08 |
| uksysadmin | sorry - was distracted peeps | 12:09 |
| uksysadmin | hello - best taking it to the dev mailing list of #~openstack-dev channel | 12:10 |
| uksysadmin | (oops, minus the ~ typo) | 12:10 |
| uksysadmin | and of to be or | 12:10 |
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| kviiri | 'Tis ok, you've been most helpful | 12:11 |
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| koolhead11 | kviiri: are you using multi compute env | 12:11 |
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| kviiri | koolhead11: Yup | 12:11 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, I presume you're using Folsom? | 12:12 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: Essex, actually | 12:12 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: can you care to see those other compute nodes and what is the scheduler algo your using | 12:12 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: I'm working on a testing system | 12:12 |
| kviiri | koolhead11: i'm something of a newbie, could you walk me through this? | 12:13 |
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| uksysadmin | kviiri - oh ok | 12:13 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: what i meant can you ls /var/lib/nova/instaces on the other compute node | 12:13 |
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| uksysadmin | kviiri, have you reached some quota limit? | 12:14 |
| SkyMan | Hi Stackers !!! | 12:14 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: It's not the quota limit | 12:14 |
| uksysadmin | Hi SkyMan | 12:14 |
| kviiri | koolhead11: Yeah, the Working node shows the instances properly | 12:14 |
| SkyMan | zynzel: Yo man, i finally succeeded and my OS is working fine | 12:14 |
| SkyMan | uksysadmin: hi uksysadmin :) | 12:14 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: so you will see the information and logs only on the compute node on which instances are running | 12:15 |
| koolhead11 | notthing wrong with that IMHO | 12:15 |
| SkyMan | Listen guys, did anyone had a problem when he opened rabbitMQ port in the firewall ? | 12:15 |
| kviiri | koolhead11: there's _base and instance-00000xxx | 12:15 |
| koolhead11 | uksysadmin: hello sir | 12:15 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: so instance-000XX is your running instance :P | 12:16 |
| kviiri | koolhead11: Well I think there is a problem if instances are scheduled on a node and perpetually trapped in the spawning/building state. | 12:16 |
| uksysadmin | koolhead11, back at you | 12:16 |
| SkyMan | i opened port 5762 but it is still unreachable :( | 12:16 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: unless your instances are 100% up you wont see the files created there i supose : | 12:16 |
| koolhead11 | SkyMan: depands which host you opened it :P | 12:17 |
| kviiri | koolhead11: The problem is that they never get created. | 12:17 |
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| kviiri | koolhead11: I'm trying to figure out why | 12:17 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: i am confused now :( | 12:17 |
| uksysadmin | SkyMan, check your typo - its 5672 | 12:17 |
| SkyMan | koolhead11: i opened it on the controller node where rabbitMQ is installed ! do i need to open it some where else ! | 12:17 |
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| SkyMan | uksysadmin: Oh My GOD !! I lost a hole day for a typo mistake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 12:18 |
| uksysadmin | pmsl SkyMan | 12:18 |
| kviiri | koolhead11: I have multiple nodes. Instances scheduled on one of them freeze in spawning/building state | 12:19 |
| uksysadmin | feck I can't neither today - must be typo tuesday | 12:19 |
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| kviiri | koolhead11: That node has something wrong with it, and I'm trying to figure out what causes that... the only log message that seems worthwhile states that "instance found in the database but not on the hypervisor" | 12:19 |
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| koolhead11 | kviiri: ok | 12:21 |
| SkyMan | uksysadmin: Thanks :) | 12:22 |
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| SkyMan | yo one more question please: what are the ports that should be opened on the controller / compute node ?? | 12:22 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, do any of the logs show anything interesting - /var/log/syslog /var/log/glance/*.log /var/log/keystone/*.log /var/log/nova/nova-*.log | 12:23 |
| oneiroi | SkyMan, your compute nodes will need access to the 0mq service (rabbitmq / qpid) on your controller, aswell as mySQL if relevant and glance. | 12:24 |
| oneiroi | perhaps swift too if you are using it | 12:24 |
| uksysadmin | SkyMan - easiest is "sudo netstat -lnp" to see what is running and listening | 12:24 |
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| SkyMan | oneiroi: so you are saying that on i need to open 9292/3306/5672 on controller | 12:25 |
| SkyMan | but what about compute nodes ? | 12:25 |
| oneiroi | SkyMan, _IF_your controller is running the services, @ the compute nodes, if nothing else just ssh so you can get to the host, nova-network should handle the rest | 12:26 |
| oneiroi | SkyMan, also I would only open them to the compute nodes i.m.o. the 0mq service for one iirc does not utilize any authentication | 12:26 |
| SkyMan | uksysadmin: i did that but there are some unecessary ports and i want to limit it, i get manu attacks from China :) | 12:26 |
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| SkyMan | oneiroi: Wow no auth !, will do that right away :) | 12:27 |
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| oneiroi | SkyMan, in defense of 0mq it is meant as a very low overhead (read: fast) messaging / queue protocol, adding auth each time would introduce handshake overhead | 12:28 |
| oneiroi | thus mitigating via controlled access :) | 12:28 |
| SkyMan | oneiroi: yea i can imagine that :), thanks for the advice | 12:28 |
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| oneiroi | SkyMan, no worries | 12:28 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: Hmm, I think it's got to do with OpenVSwitch | 12:29 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: There are several ovs-vsctl -related errors in /var/log/mesasges | 12:29 |
| kviiri | *messages | 12:29 |
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| uksysadmin | sure SKyMan - dont' open up *all* listed as LISTEN ;-) | 12:32 |
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| uksysadmin | kviiri, unfortunately I'd have to step away as I've never set up OpenVSwitch and Quantum | 12:33 |
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| kviiri | uksysadmin: Thanks anyway, you've been helpful | 12:34 |
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| uksysadmin | kviiri, excellent. what's your address so I can invoice you? haha ;-) | 12:34 |
| koolhead11 | uksysadmin: even i need to :) | 12:34 |
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| uksysadmin | kviiri - np. the openstack community has been one of the most helpful I've come across - we all do our bit to help where we can | 12:35 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: I'm mostly surprised by the activity of this IRC channel | 12:35 |
| koolhead11 | kviiri: try answers.launchpad.net/openstack | 12:35 |
| koolhead11 | see if the question is already answered if not ask a question with all detiled conf/log you have | 12:35 |
| koolhead11 | somone will help | 12:36 |
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| uksysadmin | I find it hit and miss in here. given the real time nature, it depends on people's work loads etc | 12:36 |
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| uksysadmin | but the offline help as koolhead11 suggests are great for those answers you can wait for | 12:36 |
| kviiri | To be honest I expected a half-dead IRC channel with a few idlers and someone's ancient logbot | 12:37 |
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| kviiri | Needless to say I was pleasantly surprised | 12:38 |
| * uksysadmin is a logbot, I'm just very advanced | 12:38 | |
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| uksysadmin | :) | 12:39 |
| uksysadmin | I come in on here sporadically, during the UK working day. It does tend to get busier when the US folk wake up | 12:39 |
| uksysadmin | and I miss the folk from the other side of the planet | 12:40 |
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| kviiri | I like the Germans. There are many skilled German software engineers working on open source projects, and their timezone matches mine well | 12:43 |
| kviiri | Plenty of other similar cases as well, but I keep bumping into German IT gurus everywhere I go | 12:43 |
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| uksysadmin | :) | 12:51 |
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| terter | hi we want to use openstack to manage our servers, we'have been working with debian stable for years but openstack on debian seems a bit frustrating because it's rolling fast and impossible to run on debian stable | 12:52 |
| terter | I want to run openstack with the right way, wich distribution should I use | 12:52 |
| terter | or simply which distribution are you using openstack on | 12:53 |
| zynzel | terter: check ubuntu | 12:55 |
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| terter | zynzel: thanks, I think main development of openstack is going on ubuntu and redhat | 13:06 |
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| terter | ubuntu guys seems working hard, thanks | 13:06 |
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| swinchen | Can someone explain why "nova-manage user-list" and "keystone user-list" are different? | 13:14 |
| avishay | mtaylor: ping | 13:15 |
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| MrHeat | Hi folks, can someone help me with this error "dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for xxxx". I rebooted my machine, and then, my openstack doesn't up. | 13:18 |
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| NashTrash | Hello Stackers | 13:21 |
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| NashTrash | I am having some trouble getting Horizon to cooperate with my SSL proxy. All of the links from the dashboard only have http instead of https. | 13:22 |
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| NashTrash | I followed the instructions from django to add SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER = ('HTTP_X_FORWARDED_PROTOCOL', 'https'), but it doesnt seem to be working | 13:22 |
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| tony_ | hello | 13:32 |
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| tony_ | I use nova image-list,and I got this | 13:32 |
| tony_ | ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) | 13:33 |
| tony_ | but nova flavor-list works fine | 13:33 |
| tony_ | and I googleed it,got no good solution.can anybody help me ? | 13:33 |
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| avishay | mtaylor: there seems to have been a jenkins hiccup that caused verification to fail (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11238/) - what can I do? | 13:34 |
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| MrHeat | Hi folks, can someone help me with this error "dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for xxxx". I rebooted my machine, and then, my openstack doesn't up. | 13:41 |
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| sfvg | hello everyone. does anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 13:45 |
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| UICTamale | zomg zomg zomg zomg | 13:52 |
| UICTamale | I finally figured it out | 13:52 |
| UICTamale | All I had to do was enabled IP forwarding via /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 13:52 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: lol | 13:53 |
| Diopter | Grats! | 13:53 |
| UICTamale | Thank you!!!!!! | 13:53 |
| Diopter | You'll want to write that to /etc/sysctl.conf | 13:53 |
| UICTamale | Indeed, already have | 13:53 |
| Diopter | Uncomment net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 | 13:53 |
| Diopter | Cool | 13:53 |
| Diopter | :D | 13:53 |
| UICTamale | I just kept googling "nat debugging" and "ip tables debugging" | 13:53 |
| UICTamale | and going through common issues | 13:53 |
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| UICTamale | In a fate of irony, once I googled "ip fowrad nova-network" - I found this gem: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/149013 | 13:54 |
| UICTamale | I'm definitely not alone in this | 13:54 |
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| UICTamale | I'll do what I can to spread the word - can anyone here update the official docs on nova-networking setup to mention this?? | 13:55 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: I was pretty sure that Nova enabled forwarding for you. But maybe not. | 13:56 |
| prometheanfire | what is the minimum number of servers to deploy for a useful deployment (I think it's 5, but dunno fully) | 13:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036669 in quantum "Allow unit tests to load custom configuration files" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036669 | 13:56 |
| Diopter | prometheanfire: That's highly subjective criteria there. "useful deployment". | 13:56 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, I know :| | 13:56 |
| Diopter | I might find a single box useful. | 13:56 |
| UICTamale | Diopter: Can you check? Or how can I help? I want to do everything I can to ensure no one else suffers this terrible fate | 13:56 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: Sure. Just need to look in /usr/share/pyshared/nova/network/*. linux_net.py is a likely candidate | 13:57 |
| prometheanfire | I was thinking 3 to start, I'm trying to figure out how much it'll cost me to set up an env for about 16G of current usage servers and then also a nested openstack deployment to test/dev on | 13:58 |
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| fitzdsl | is that possible to disable entirely the security group mecanism ? | 13:58 |
| swinchen | So... how do I create a new user/tenant with quotas? | 13:58 |
| UICTamale | swinchen - I was able to make projects and edit quotas nicely from the UI | 13:59 |
| UICTamale | but to make a new tenant just use keystone | 13:59 |
| swinchen | I am not using dashboard.. just command line. I am very confused wy "keystone user-list" is different from "nova-manage user list" | 14:00 |
| sfvg | hello everyone. does anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 14:00 |
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| fitzdsl | I just want to get multiple NIC on one instance without any cloud side firewalling. Is that possible ? | 14:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036672 in nova "Unable to spawn instance after I delete and create same network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036672 | 14:01 |
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| prometheanfire | can anyone link me to somewhere or describe the services (and therefor possibly servers) needed for a deployment? | 14:04 |
| UICTamale | prometheanfire: The most common setup puts all services on one machine - have you read any of those guides? | 14:05 |
| Diopter | prometheanfire: Have you read the official guide? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/ | 14:05 |
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| prometheanfire | UICTamale: I have seen those guides, but was looking for something more on the medium-small side, not single host :D | 14:07 |
| prometheanfire | though a single host may work | 14:08 |
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| UICTamale | Well, I have 5 nodes | 14:08 |
| UICTamale | and I have all services on one of them | 14:08 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I see that now | 14:08 |
| UICTamale | and nova-compute, nova-network, and nova-api on the other 4 | 14:08 |
| UICTamale | it's nice | 14:08 |
| prometheanfire | that may be what's needed, can nova host it's own controler? | 14:09 |
| prometheanfire | or is there a bootstrapping problem? | 14:09 |
| Diopter | You'll need to install a supported base OS and configure it to install nova on it. | 14:09 |
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| Diopter | Which is usually done by deployment tools | 14:10 |
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| prometheanfire | right, I guess what I'm asking is if nova can host it's own management, I guess how vmware can host vsphere within the cluster that vsphere is controling | 14:11 |
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| Diopter | Not easily, and that's not a goal of the system, no. | 14:12 |
| Diopter | However you could potentially make a VM using libvirt+kvm (for instance) on a compute node, and put the controller services in it | 14:13 |
| Diopter | The only thing required is network access to the API services. | 14:13 |
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| prometheanfire | hmm, so if the node that is acting as the control node dies... | 14:14 |
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| Diopter | Well, the existing VMs (on other compute nodes) will continue to function | 14:15 |
| Diopter | Just that any new VMs, migration, or any other orchestration won't be functional | 14:15 |
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| UICTamale | Diopter: Now that I can reach my VMs, I feel like I can finally USE them. The first thing I noticed is that my VMs are not getting the same dns information as their hosts - thus they don't know about my other internal machines. How can I fix this? | 14:16 |
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| prometheanfire | hmm, ok | 14:17 |
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| prometheanfire | I guess that I can host swift and stuff in VMs, so that can work | 14:17 |
| Diopter | prometheanfire: Terrible idea. But you can host swift in a VM, sure. | 14:18 |
| prometheanfire | also, using a dual node atom box for the control node, so if one node goes down... | 14:18 |
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| prometheanfire | Diopter: it would only be for deving on swift, and also just as an allinone type config for it | 14:18 |
| Diopter | prometheanfire: If you're planning on just having failover or something, it's more complicated than that by far. | 14:18 |
| Diopter | UICTamale: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/dnsmasq.html might be useful, depending on what other information you need. | 14:18 |
| fitzdsl | can't disable internal openstack security group (fw) ? | 14:19 |
| Diopter | UICTamale: (you could just tell your VM's to use your upstream NS as their primary) | 14:19 |
| UICTamale | that's what I want to do | 14:19 |
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| prometheanfire | Diopter: what do you mean by failover, you talking about the dual node thing? | 14:19 |
| Diopter | prometheanfire: Yes. | 14:20 |
| prometheanfire | ya, it has to be :D | 14:20 |
| Diopter | UICTamale: What nameservers do your VMs get? Are they the same as the compute hosts have on them? | 14:20 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: Oh, you said it's Not the same. Ok, so, you can totally tell dnsmasq to push that in. | 14:21 |
| Diopter | UICTamale: The server= line is probably what you want. | 14:21 |
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| UICTamale | I don't even see a conf file | 14:21 |
| UICTamale | just an emtpy conf.d dir | 14:21 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: Not sure where you're looking (/etc/resolv.conf.d maybe?), but look at the link I gave you. | 14:22 |
| Diopter | UICTamale: You need to create a config file, and point nova.conf at it with the appropriate flag | 14:22 |
| Diopter | Or | 14:22 |
| Diopter | You can just set the dns_server flag in nova.conf and be done with it :P | 14:23 |
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| UICTamale | nice ok | 14:27 |
| noob | UICTamale: got a sec? | 14:27 |
| UICTamale | kinda yah | 14:27 |
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| noob | i tried assigning a floating ip to my instance. the bridge owns the ip it looks like. the networking guys say there's an arp entry in the networking core but no mac so i can't get there | 14:28 |
| noob | any idea's? | 14:28 |
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| UICTamale | no mac? | 14:30 |
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| UICTamale | Can you reach the VM via the private ip? | 14:30 |
| noob | i can | 14:30 |
| Diopter | noob: Your networking guy might not be sure of your networking requirements to make floating IPs work. Do you understand they're /32's and are ARP'd for a little differently? | 14:30 |
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| noob | if log onto the controller node i can ssh to the private ip ok | 14:30 |
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| noob | Diopter: i didn't realize there was something special they needed to do? | 14:31 |
| Diopter | noob: Well, how are the floats getting to you? Are they routed to your upstream router? Are they routed all the way down a specific box? (are you using FlatDHCP/multi_host?) | 14:31 |
| noob | I have it setup as FlatDHCP | 14:32 |
| noob | i'd like multi_host setup but not sure exactly how to set that | 14:32 |
| Diopter | So your nodes are all routing through your controller. | 14:33 |
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| noob | yeah at this point it looks like they are. If i ssh from the controller i can hit the compute nodes' instances | 14:33 |
| Diopter | Could make floating IPs tricksy. Though if they're going on the compute bridges, they should still work alright. | 14:33 |
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| Diopter | Is your network guy available right now? Can you find out how this public range you're using for floating is routed to you? | 14:34 |
| noob | yup i can ask him. give me a sec | 14:34 |
| prometheanfire | it looks like ceph doesn't give any sort of ability for automated failover (that I can find) | 14:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036689 in devstack "exercises/euca.sh fails if DEFAULT_IMAGE_NAME is set to something other than ami" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036689 | 14:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036690 in quantum "device owner not reset when port is down" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036690 | 14:36 |
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| Diopter | noob: In order for the upstream router (likely your public gateway) to be able to ARP for your floats, it might need an IP in the floating range on it. | 14:38 |
| noob | does that make sense? | 14:39 |
| noob | Diopter: the public gateway is setup with vlan's. my controller node is set into a vlan also and my floating ip range is also in that vlan | 14:39 |
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| Diopter | noob: That's fine. Just means they can broadcast in the same (virtual) domain. | 14:40 |
| noob | correct | 14:40 |
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| noob | Diopter: should i paste some stuff for ya? | 14:41 |
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| Diopter | noob: Might help. But one simple way to test some things is to add one of your unassociated floats to one of your bridges, and then try to hit the public gateway from it | 14:42 |
| noob | interesting | 14:42 |
| Diopter | Like... ip a a dev br100 x.x.x.y/32; ping -I x.x.x.y z.z.z.z | 14:43 |
| Diopter | Where z.z.z.z is the public gateway, or float gateway (if you have one for the second range) | 14:43 |
| noob | Diopter: it actually looks like i already did that: http://paste.openstack.org/show/20317/ | 14:43 |
| Diopter | That way you shouldn't have any potential iptables rules (for the ones nova adds) interfering | 14:44 |
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| noob | ok let me check | 14:44 |
| Diopter | No, looks like you added a float using openstack | 14:44 |
| Diopter | I'm saying Manually | 14:44 |
| Diopter | So no iptables rules are created. | 14:44 |
| noob | yeah that works correctly. i can ping it | 14:44 |
| Diopter | Ok, now try ping -I x.x.x.y 8.8.8.8 | 14:44 |
| Diopter | To test public connectivity | 14:44 |
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| Diopter | Then, try hitting x.x.x.y from an external location, to test ingress | 14:45 |
| noob | ok i'll check | 14:45 |
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| noob | Diopter: i added the ip manually and i can ping 8.8.8.8 and also I can ping my gateway | 14:46 |
| noob | so it seems to work alright | 14:46 |
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| Diopter | Sweet, so you have forward and return Routes, at least. | 14:47 |
| Diopter | But now try initiating inbound from an external location | 14:47 |
| Diopter | To check for ACL/firewall policy | 14:47 |
| noob | ok | 14:47 |
| noob | on the manual ip right? | 14:47 |
| Diopter | Yes | 14:47 |
| noob | yup my manual ip responds to pings from an external box | 14:49 |
| Diopter | Now... did you make sure to add it as a /32? | 14:49 |
| noob | yup | 14:49 |
| noob | i followed your example | 14:49 |
| Diopter | Cool. | 14:49 |
| noob | so i think it's iptables where the problem is then | 14:50 |
| Diopter | Apparently so. | 14:50 |
| noob | i dumped my iptables in that paste up there | 14:50 |
| prometheanfire | ah, looks like HA is coming in folsom | 14:50 |
| Diopter | noob: Yar, I saw. Out of curiosity... do you have ICMP/TCP/etc enabled in your test VM's security group? | 14:51 |
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| Diopter | noob: If you Do, then, remove your manually added ip (ip a d dev br100 x.x.x.y/32), disassociate your first float using the dash or whatever, then associate the one you used for the manual test | 14:53 |
| Diopter | To isolate whether that first float has some conflict or routing issue somewhere | 14:53 |
| noob | um, i have icmp enabled. i also enabled ssh | 14:53 |
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| noob | ok i'll give that a shot | 14:54 |
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| UICTamale | Diopter: This one? instance_dns_domain= | 14:59 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: Maybe! Not sure. Never had to do it :P | 15:00 |
| UICTamale | Haha, Ok I'll experiment :P | 15:00 |
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| tongli | @Diopter, the conversation above with noob seem to be very helpful to others who have similar issues. is there a little article somewhere for the problem? | 15:01 |
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| tongli | @Diopter, if not, it might be helpful to create one? | 15:02 |
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| noob | Diopter: do you know the ip command to disassociate the ip? | 15:04 |
| noob | i'm not familiar with that tool yet | 15:04 |
| Diopter | noob: You mean manually remove it from the bridge? Or actually *disassociate*, in nova? | 15:05 |
| noob | yeah manually remove | 15:05 |
| Diopter | tongli: I'm not sure if there is such an article. I work for Rackspace on OS deployments, so I've just had to solve these problems in production on real, complicated networks. | 15:05 |
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| Diopter | tongli: Might be some things written down about the upstream networking part | 15:05 |
| Diopter | noob: ip a d dev br100 x.x.x.y/32 | 15:05 |
| noob | ip d a haha | 15:06 |
| noob | oh i had it backwards | 15:06 |
| Diopter | hehe | 15:06 |
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| tongli | @Diopter, appreciate your helping out. Just think this issue might be common for others on settting up OpenStack networks. | 15:06 |
| Diopter | It's hierarchical. And abbreviated. Short for "ip addr del" | 15:06 |
| Diopter | tongli: Sure. It's definitely a challenging aspect of deploying. Lots of companies selling that very thing :P | 15:07 |
| UICTamale | Is there a good reference for this newfangled 'ip' command? | 15:07 |
| Diopter | UICTamale: ip has a lot of documentation itself, though it's very very terse :P | 15:08 |
| UICTamale | tongli is right - you could write an excellent guide to troubleshooting nova-network issue, diopter :P | 15:08 |
| Diopter | ip help | 15:08 |
| Diopter | ip addr help, ip link help, etc :P | 15:08 |
| UICTamale | cool | 15:08 |
| Diopter | http://www.policyrouting.org/iproute2.doc.html | 15:08 |
| Diopter | http://linux.die.net/man/8/ip | 15:09 |
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| Diopter | Or just man ip on your box, hehe | 15:09 |
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| UICTamale | man, if there's one thing I wish I could change about the linux world, it's the man pages are written | 15:09 |
| Diopter | Well, scroll down a bunch | 15:09 |
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| UICTamale | it seems like there are some people who love the way they're built - but I personally find them next to useless | 15:09 |
| noob | Diopter: as soon as i associate the ip that previously worked and try to ping it, nothing happens | 15:09 |
| noob | i think it's ip tables or nat rules that are messed up somehow | 15:10 |
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| Diopter | noob: Well, you can test some parts of that, too. | 15:12 |
| noob | i'm down :) | 15:12 |
| Diopter | noob: tcpdump -i vnet# -npv host 10.0.0.4 (or whatever it was) | 15:13 |
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| Diopter | noob: Where vnet# is the vnet interface for the VM you're testing against. The previous pastes made it look like you only had one on this compute host | 15:13 |
| noob | um | 15:13 |
| noob | i have 3 compute hosts and 1 controller | 15:13 |
| noob | so i'd jump onto the compute host and tcpdump there? | 15:13 |
| noob | or i was thinking i could dump on the controller bridge also | 15:14 |
| Diopter | Hrm. | 15:14 |
| Diopter | Oh right, you're not using multi_host, so you've been doing all of this from the controller. | 15:14 |
| noob | yeah when i associate an ip the controller grabs it | 15:14 |
| Diopter | So... tcpdump on the controller's bridge, for "host <VM IP>" | 15:15 |
| noob | ok | 15:15 |
| Diopter | Then try hitting the floating externally | 15:15 |
| Diopter | See if traffic leaves the bridge destined to the private VM IP | 15:15 |
| noob | yeah good thought | 15:15 |
| noob | tcpdump is my friend :) | 15:15 |
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| Diopter | Mmhmm | 15:16 |
| noob | yeah it's hitting the bridge | 15:16 |
| Diopter | But destined to 10.0.0.4 or whatever? | 15:16 |
| noob | oh | 15:17 |
| noob | lemme check | 15:17 |
| noob | i was dumping on the public ip host | 15:17 |
| Diopter | (trying to see if the NAT/route is doing what we expect) | 15:17 |
| Diopter | That's where I want you dumping. That bridge. | 15:17 |
| noob | yeah | 15:17 |
| Diopter | But for "host 10.0.0.x" | 15:17 |
| Diopter | tcpdump -i br??? -npv host 10.0.0.x | 15:17 |
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| noob | i see arp traffic but not my ping | 15:18 |
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| Diopter | ARP for the private or public? | 15:19 |
| noob | arp for private | 15:19 |
| Diopter | From which IP? (WHOHAS x.x.x.x tell y.y.y.y) | 15:19 |
| noob | yeah request who has 10.0.0.1 tell 10.0.0.3 | 15:19 |
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| noob | then reply 10.0.0.1 is at this mac: xxxx | 15:19 |
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| Diopter | So, .1 is on the controller bridge | 15:20 |
| Diopter | I presume .3 is on one of the compute host bridges | 15:20 |
| Diopter | Or maybe one of your VMs... | 15:21 |
| noob | oh i meant .4. yeah it's one of the VM's | 15:21 |
| Diopter | Cool. So it's looking for its default gateway, and getting it | 15:21 |
| Diopter | So that traffic's unrelated to what we're testing :P | 15:21 |
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| noob | yeah | 15:21 |
| Diopter | Ok, iptables -t nat -nvL | grep 10.0.0.4, check the far left counter | 15:22 |
| Diopter | See if it goes up when you ping the float | 15:22 |
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| noob | ok | 15:22 |
| noob | perfect use of the watch command for that | 15:23 |
| Diopter | mmhmm | 15:23 |
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| noob | i see some stuff going from 165.160.208.226 -> 10.0.0.4. When i stop pinging it stops. So i think things are getting there | 15:24 |
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| noob | DNAT that is | 15:24 |
| noob | there's 2 DNAT entries for the same thing it looks like | 15:24 |
| Diopter | There are. | 15:25 |
| noob | one is working and the other is zero'd out | 15:25 |
| Diopter | OUTPUT and PREROUTING | 15:25 |
| noob | ok | 15:25 |
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| Diopter | Locally-generated traffic goes -> OUTPUT -> POSTROUTING | 15:25 |
| Diopter | External traffic goes into PREROUTING | 15:25 |
| noob | right | 15:25 |
| noob | to go through the nat | 15:25 |
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| Diopter | noob: Mmhmm. | 15:26 |
| noob | so maybe things are getting there but don'tk now how to get back? | 15:26 |
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| sfvg | hello everyone. does anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 15:26 |
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| Diopter | noob: The DNAT target is stateful; what should happen is, the response traffic takes the default route (10.0.0.1), which conntrack on the controller sees matches the traffic from the DNAT, and reverses it | 15:27 |
| Diopter | noob: I presume your VM's default route is 10.0.0.1 | 15:27 |
| noob | i believe so but i can double check. last time i logged in it says that | 15:28 |
| manisht | Hi everyone. What is the purpose of creating network using "nova-manage network create" for FlatNetwork mode where network in VM is outside the scope of nova? | 15:29 |
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| noob | Diopter: yup 10.0.0.1 is the default route for the vm | 15:29 |
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| noob | on the vm if i say ping google.com he is able to transform that into an ip but can't ping anything | 15:29 |
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| Diopter | noob: But works if you disassociate the float? | 15:30 |
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| noob | well i'm going through the private address | 15:30 |
| noob | neither works on the way out public or private | 15:30 |
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| noob | dns works oddly enough though | 15:30 |
| Diopter | noob: When you associate a floating IP, the VM will use that to SNAT from on outgoing traffic. | 15:30 |
| Diopter | bbiaf | 15:30 |
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| noob | ok | 15:31 |
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| sfvg | hello everyone. does anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 15:35 |
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| tongli | @noob, you are setting up your network as FlatDHCP and you can not access the VMs from outside of your private network, is that the problem you are trying to solve? | 15:37 |
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| noob | tongli: correct. also the vm's can't seem to get back out. so i can ping in but nothing comes back | 15:40 |
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| tongli | @noob, I remember when I had the similar issue, I had to do something about the nameserver settings on the controller. | 15:42 |
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| tongli | but I do not remember exactly. | 15:42 |
| noob | tongli: well that's the thing. i can ping google.com and it resolves it correctly but gets no response back | 15:42 |
| tongli | @noob, ok, hope that someone can help figure this out. | 15:43 |
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| noob | brb guys lunch | 15:45 |
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| MrHeat | Hi folks, can someone help me with this error "dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for xxxx". I rebooted my machine, and then, my openstack doesn't up. | 15:49 |
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| sfvg | hello everyone. does anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 15:51 |
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| UICTamale | when does an assigned floating IP show up in the UI next to the private IP? | 15:58 |
| UICTamale | ah.. appears it can take a while before it suddenly appears. | 15:59 |
| UICTamale | Diopter: Appears just adding dns_server didn't help | 16:00 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: Haven't had reason to try it myself yet, was just echoing the doc page I linked you | 16:06 |
| UICTamale | gotcha | 16:06 |
| Diopter | Make sure you restart nova-network after making the flag change | 16:06 |
| UICTamale | Yup | 16:06 |
| UICTamale | did that | 16:06 |
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| UICTamale | VMs come up with 'novalocal' as the domain | 16:07 |
| UICTamale | and nameserver is 100.100.100.3 - the private ip of my controller node | 16:07 |
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| tinjaw | A bit confused RE: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/setting-up-tenants-users-and-roles.html | 16:09 |
| tinjaw | if I grab sample_data.sh, do I just run that | 16:09 |
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| tinjaw | and that does everything below on that page? | 16:09 |
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| tinjaw | (After reading the comments and setting the evn, of course) | 16:09 |
| oneiroi | anyone know which table the instance-000000N reference is stored? I appear to have 2 dead instance folders | 16:09 |
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| timello | oneiroi: instances maybe? But I think there are other tables that you would need to cleanup. | 16:13 |
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| oneiroi | timello, I _think_ this has more to do with the fact I've rebuilt a couple times. Juts trying to ensure that the instance id's are not whoing up in the tables anywhere, and it's not the instances table :( | 16:14 |
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| timello | oneiroi: so I think I didn't get what you want to do... you mean 'instance-0000000N'? You are not going to find it... because it only stores the id not the 'instance' word | 16:22 |
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| UICTamale | best practices time - is it better to fully configure the dnsmasq service for all dns related VM configuration, or set things manually in a setup-script when VMs start up? | 16:32 |
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| sfvg | hello everyone. does anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 17:03 |
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| UICTamale | interesting, now I'm stuck here - node04 - dnsmasq-dhcp[1871]: Ignoring domain xyz.com for DHCP host name vm01 | 17:07 |
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| sfvg | anyone know how to install folsom-2 into devstack? | 17:16 |
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| tinjaw | You have a collection of compute nodes, each installed with Fedora 17, RHEL 6.2, Scientific Linux 6.1 or CentOS 6 + CR distributions (continuous release ( CR ) repository). | 17:29 |
| tinjaw | What is the CR distribution? | 17:29 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036758 in devstack "Volume service setup fails if /etc/tgt/conf.d directory is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036758 | 17:36 |
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| * prometheanfire wonders what other's experience running the control node on an atom server is | 17:40 | |
| tinjaw | where is the continuous release ( CR ) repository ? | 17:43 |
| tinjaw | I have yum working with EPEL, but I don't know where the CR is? | 17:43 |
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| * prometheanfire also wonders if he could get the control node stuff working on an arm system, it should just be python, I think | 17:45 | |
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| swinchen | the policy is set based on the role name correct? So if I have a role called memberRole, that is the name I use in the policy files? | 17:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036772 in cinder "Attachments in response body should be a dictionary and not list of dicts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036772 | 17:56 |
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| crohling88 | any of the devstack guys in here willing to comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1032222 ? | 18:12 |
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| acadiel | Hi, all - I'm having an issue getting nova-network up and running on a CentOS 6.3 system. All other services are running :-). Nova is 2012-1.7 from EPEL. Have an untagged eth0 and two vlan devices - one for the management of the server (on a certain vlan) and the other vlan is a basic vlan without any interfaces on the switch, etc - i.e. Openstack has the whole vlan to itself. When I | 18:33 |
| acadiel | start openstack-nova-network, I just get one line saying it's started, no other diag info. All other services are starting ok. Thoughts? | 18:33 |
| acadiel | one line in the logfile, I mean... is there a way I can enable a debug to get more info in /var/log/nova/network.log ? | 18:33 |
| acadiel | I did run nova-manage network create for the network (10.0.118.128/27) and see it when I do a nova-manage network list. I also see the vlan, bridge, and bridge interface in the nova.networks section of the db | 18:35 |
| tinjaw | is Essex considered stable or devel ? | 18:37 |
| acadiel | I'm having to IRC via open Wifi, as I can't do it on our corp network, so copy/pasting stuff will be challenging, but I'll try to include pertinent info if someone needs | 18:39 |
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| noob | Diopter: you around? | 18:42 |
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| noob | anyone here good with openstack snats? | 18:43 |
| Diopter | noob: mebbe | 18:44 |
| noob | haha | 18:44 |
| noob | so my networking guy was wondering if the problem is that i have the public interface on the bridge and not on a physical interface | 18:44 |
| Diopter | Nope, because your physical interface is in your bridge (bridged into it) | 18:45 |
| noob | the iptables look correct to me | 18:45 |
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| Diopter | Furthermore | 18:45 |
| noob | right, that's what i thought. it's all the same | 18:45 |
| Diopter | We already tested with one of your floats manually on your bridge | 18:45 |
| noob | you did? | 18:45 |
| noob | ioh | 18:45 |
| Diopter | *you* did | 18:45 |
| noob | you mean me haha | 18:45 |
| noob | that worked ok | 18:45 |
| Diopter | Royal 'we' :P | 18:45 |
| noob | yes i did | 18:45 |
| noob | yes | 18:45 |
| Diopter | So, your network guy's wrong, though it was a good thought. | 18:46 |
| noob | yeah | 18:46 |
| Diopter | Have you tried other VM images? | 18:46 |
| noob | one thing i did notice was there's 2 snat's | 18:46 |
| noob | i'm just using the f16-jeos | 18:46 |
| noob | could that be a problem? | 18:46 |
| Diopter | Maybe. Not sure what the networking is like in that. | 18:46 |
| Diopter | Maybe try the cirros image? | 18:46 |
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| Diopter | Or tty linux perhaps | 18:46 |
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| noob | lemme grab one | 18:47 |
| noob | the f16-jeos is just dhcp it looks like | 18:48 |
| noob | no tcpdump or useful tools though :( | 18:48 |
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| tinjaw | I'm banging my head here. Trying to do CentOS 6 w/ Essex. Having problems. | 18:49 |
| tinjaw | Is Essex considered stable? | 18:49 |
| acadiel | tinjaw: trying to install on 6.3 here. Running into issues with nova-network. | 18:50 |
| acadiel | Trying to follow this for the most part: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL | 18:50 |
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| noob | everythign on that worked for me except for the networking | 18:52 |
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| noob | the fedora walkthough* | 18:52 |
| acadiel | yep, that's what I'm running into. I got into RedHat's OpenStack preview and looked at the instructions - they're almost verbatim following the Fedora walkthrough. | 18:53 |
| tinjaw | I guess I should ask, if I want to learn OpenStack, what distro and openstack version is considered the easiest to setup and get running | 18:53 |
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| noob | acadiel: yeah i know | 18:53 |
| noob | i expected more from redhat | 18:54 |
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| acadiel | noob: even the nova-manage network create command is *identical* | 18:54 |
| noob | yup | 18:54 |
| noob | it's crazy. they just copy pasta'd it | 18:54 |
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| noob | they did that with gluster also | 18:55 |
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| noob | acadiel: how far did you get on the network? | 18:57 |
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| acadiel | noob: I did a nova-create network and that works, but nova-network won't fully start.. says it starts OK, and logs one line in network.log, and nada. status in nova-manage service list is XXX | 19:01 |
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| noob | yeah my compute is doing that on one node also | 19:01 |
| noob | are you using fedora? | 19:01 |
| acadiel | CentOS 6.3. | 19:02 |
| noob | oh that's right | 19:02 |
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| acadiel | Did change the nova.conf to be vlan instead of flatdhcp | 19:02 |
| acadiel | and put in the vlan number as well in nova.conf - don't know if that was needed, but no change | 19:02 |
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| noob | oh ok | 19:02 |
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| noob | did your networking guys trunk the vlan's to your port? | 19:03 |
| acadiel | system has two VLANs on an untagged connection already. I was asking nova-network to use the dedicated one I want to use for VMs | 19:03 |
| noob | ok | 19:03 |
| noob | so you went cloud pipe? | 19:03 |
| acadiel | I have a ifcfg-vlan1 and ifcfg-vlan2 setup... vlan1 has the main interface for the server to login to it... vlan2 is the "isolated" vlan for VMs | 19:03 |
| acadiel | both point to eth0 as the parent device | 19:05 |
| acadiel | I can put something else on vlan2 (which is isolated, and doesn't have an interface on the switch) and ping the server's vlan2 and even login via the vlan2, so I know the networking is operational | 19:06 |
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| ericcc | hey guys, i'm booting a cirros image, but there are no ethernet devices (nothing in /dev/ or ifconfig -a) | 19:10 |
| ericcc | any idea why that would be? | 19:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036793 in nova "checks_instance_lock and revert_task_state do not return value from wrapped function." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036793 | 19:21 |
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| Dieterbe | when i'm uploading segments into swift, say each 1GB in size. and my connection drops halfway the 3rd segment. can swift keep the 3rd part and treat it as a 500MB segment? | 19:47 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: no | 19:56 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: so basically there's no way to save partially updated data, you must always specify the size in advance and then upload all data, otherwise swift will forget about the (partially) uploaded data? | 19:58 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: or is there a way to say "i'm just gonna start uploading. we'll see how far I get, just keep all data I uploaded" ? | 19:59 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: you can use chunked transfer encoding, but you still must end the connection appropriately. swift will not take partial writes as successful | 19:59 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: thanks man | 20:00 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: to put things into context, we are working on a new upload system, where users can upload into swift. but it should deal with connection loss and resume "from wherever we left off" | 20:03 |
| zykes- | notmyname: rver ERROR with Object server 192.168.6.30:6000/sdb1 re: Trying to write to /v1/AUTH_b8bf054b6fe1423791a42468c5f8b761/glance/5ce7c80c-739f-44c4-9d92-0a87d849deec: ChunkWriteTimeout (10s) < means ? | 20:04 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: so i guess i should buffer all uploads first, and once they are completely uploaded into the staging directory, only then start moving them into swift | 20:04 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: are you trying to protect against client disconnects or your staging server disconnects? | 20:10 |
| notmyname | zykes-: proxy tries to write the data in chunks to the objects server. it wasn't able to write a chunk in under 10 seconds | 20:10 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: I wouldn't recommend spooling all the data into a staging area | 20:11 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: client disconnects.. and not "protect from". we know they will happen. we just want to offer our clients a "just resume from where you left off" feature | 20:11 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: ya, understood | 20:11 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: but i don't see any other solution to do this with swift | 20:12 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: how large are the final objects? you are using the object manifest feature for this? | 20:13 |
| zykes- | why does it fail I wonder notmyname | 20:14 |
| zykes- | all the services are up | 20:14 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: anything from a meg to >5GB. and yes i'm trying to build a prototype using segments with a manifest, but this doesn't really matter, because I cannot choose segment sizes in advance to always match byte boundaries where disconnects can happen. (unless I make all segments 1byte big :) | 20:14 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: here's an idea: write a manifest for each upload. as you get the data, send it to swift as transfer-encoding chunked to one or more (depending on size) swift objects that are referenced by the manifest. on client disconnect, your staging server sends the \r\n0\r\n\r\n to end the chunked stream. the object is written and referenceable by the manifest. client resumes and you start writing to a new swift object | 20:16 |
| notmyname | zykes-: network disconected? disk IO overwhelmed by concurrent operations? | 20:17 |
| zykes- | notmyname: no not disconnected | 20:18 |
| zykes- | load at like 0,5 | 20:18 |
| notmyname | zykes-: cpu load or iowait load? | 20:18 |
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| zykes- | no iowait | 20:20 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: oh, i thought i always needed to specify the size of an upload before commencing the upload | 20:22 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: unlike S3, swift supports chunked transfer encoding :-) | 20:23 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: okay so your idea is basically what i had in mind. i just have to use transfer-encoding chunked to make it actually work | 20:34 |
| notmyname | ya. and you have the edge case that you lose the last chunk if your staging server goes down | 20:35 |
| notmyname | *last uploaded chunk | 20:35 |
| Dieterbe | yeah but that's not a big problem | 20:36 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: and you can control the chunk size in swift by setting your staging box to start writing to a new object after XX bytes | 20:37 |
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| Dieterbe | however, we support "resume at arbitrary position" feature for clients. sensible clients will of course resume from where they left off (they can even ask us for the byte offset, which we can query from swift), but i'm a bit concerned that some clients will want to resume from the bad position (somewhere halfway a segment in swift) | 20:38 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: as an interesting side-effect, if you set each object to the same size, your cluster will have very good balance of the fullness of every drive :-) | 20:39 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: ya, I don't see how that will work for swift. they can't write after the end (ie have a gap) and unless they are on an object boundary, they can't overwrite old data (ie you can't to partial writes in swift) | 20:40 |
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| Dieterbe | we would disallow the gap thing for sure. i'm looking if we can disallow resume from somewhere else than segment boundary | 20:43 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: btw are you aware of any automatic swift ingestion stuff? (something like a python script that scans a directory, submits all files to swift, removes the files on disk, and starts inotify watches to automatically do the same for any newly appearing files) | 20:45 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: not that does all of that. bin/swift in python-swiftclient and swiftly are two CLI tools that can to do the directory upload (with diff support, I think). the rest would be up to you | 20:46 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: i actually found something that does this for "mosso cloudfiles" | 20:50 |
| notmyname | ah cool. what? | 20:50 |
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| tsgeo | Is anyone familiar with issues of Windows Server 2008 on Openstack/KVM and Windows Time Synchronization causing network problems? | 20:50 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: http://fileconveyor.org/ | 20:51 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: but mosso cloudfiles != openstack swift, right? | 20:51 |
| notmyname | mosso became "Rackspace Cloud" and cloudfiles == swift. | 20:52 |
| notmyname | so it should all work | 20:52 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: assuming it doesn't rely on the cloud files CDN functionality | 20:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036835 in nova "task state isn't reset after image snapshot" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036835 | 21:01 |
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| Sh0cK | Hi guys | 21:30 |
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| Sh0cK | Is possible to use openstack as paas? | 21:32 |
| heckj | Sh0cK: if you install additional software with it (i.e. OpenShift or something like it) - OpenStack is very firmly IaaS. | 21:36 |
| Sh0cK | OpenShift is | 21:38 |
| Sh0cK | Not open source | 21:38 |
| Sh0cK | Some alternative? | 21:39 |
| heckj | Sh0cK: pick your poison - point being that OpenStack doesn't provide it today, and likely won't in the near future - as it's focused on being IaaS | 21:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1036902 in nova "Block storage connections are NOT restored on system reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036902 | 23:51 |
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