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| jizhang | anyone can tell me whether the openstack packages distributed in ubuntu 12.04 apt repository is production ready? | 02:16 |
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| jizhang | hello?... | 02:33 |
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| jkoelker | depends on what you mean by "production ready" | 02:45 |
| jkoelker | can they boot and manage vm's: yes | 02:45 |
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| jizhang | Should I rather use the deb or install from source? What's the common practice? | 02:49 |
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| jkoelker | we run pretty close to trunk, but we also have a full team of devs | 02:50 |
| jkoelker | what are you trying to do? | 02:51 |
| jizhang | To build a private clound within company, providing production ready vms for various business departments. | 02:52 |
| jizhang | currently we're using esx and xen, but openstack is the kind of stuff we're looking for. | 02:53 |
| jkoelker | ah, ok, so just like a single zone/cell then I would assume | 02:54 |
| jkoelker | if so then yea the packages should work fine for that | 02:54 |
| jizhang | I'm not familiar with the concept zone/cell, but thanks for your advice. | 02:55 |
| jkoelker | a zone or cell is a group of hypervisors grouped together | 02:56 |
| jkoelker | you can (with trunk and a few patches up for review currently) have multiple of these cells be managed by a single api endpoint | 02:57 |
| jkoelker | kinda like aws availability zones | 02:57 |
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| jizhang | I'll look into that. Thanks~ | 02:58 |
| jkoelker | np | 02:59 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038840 in quantum "Remove metaplugin agents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038840 | 03:20 |
| wolfric | I'm using this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/ . I've been writing a script to help me automate parts i get right so i can rebuild up to the stage in the doc i have working which is here http://pastebin.com/2kWiZ8Lh | 03:22 |
| wolfric | i'm getting an error after i run glance-manage version_control 0 however. Can anyone offer some insight? | 03:23 |
| wolfric | this is a stock ubuntu 12.04 x64 server iso install with no other packages installed | 03:23 |
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| wolfric | i can also offer a tar of the current glance folder and database dumps if it helps (i'm not worried about passwords, they're all generated on install) | 03:24 |
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| wolfric | i'm not sure if it is from this https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/921126 although surely not if the commands i executed are just in official docs, they would have been noticed by someone and the doc would have changed right? | 03:30 |
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| kviiri | Good morning stackers | 05:31 |
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| koolhead17 | hugokuo, hi | 05:40 |
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| melmoth | hi there ! | 05:41 |
| koolhead17 | hello melmoth :) | 05:41 |
| wolfric | hello hello | 05:42 |
| koolhead17 | wolfric, :) | 05:42 |
| wolfric | i don't suppose anyone's got any thoughts on what i posted about 2/3 hours ago? | 05:42 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth, even for adding 1 line change and ask for merge i need to get whole repo from launchpad? | 05:43 |
| koolhead17 | wolfric, what was it? | 05:43 |
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| wolfric | 04:24 < wolfric> I'm using this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/ . I've been writing a script to help me automate parts i get right so i can rebuild up to the stage in the doc i have working which is here http://pastebin.com/2kWiZ8Lh | 05:44 |
| wolfric | 04:24 < wolfric> i'm getting an error after i run glance-manage version_control 0 however. Can anyone offer some insight? | 05:44 |
| melmoth | not sure koolhead17, but i think so. | 05:44 |
| wolfric | 04:25 < wolfric> this is a stock ubuntu 12.04 x64 server iso install with no other packages installed | 05:44 |
| wolfric | 04:25 -!- jizhang [~jizhang@221.133.228.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 05:44 |
| wolfric | 04:25 < wolfric> i can also offer a tar of the current glance folder and database dumps if it helps (i'm not worried about passwords, they're all generated on install) | 05:44 |
| livemoon | hi, anyone use gladinet as client to connect swift ? | 05:47 |
| melmoth | wolfric, no idea, but if i were you, i would start by veing sure one can connect to the database with the credentials set in the glace paste conf file. | 05:48 |
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| wolfric | melmoth: you can, i've checked | 05:48 |
| koolhead17 | wolfric, sudo glance-manage db_sync did u try this | 05:48 |
| melmoth | m | 05:48 |
| melmoth | hmmm, "you need to pass either an existing engine or a database uri | 05:49 |
| koolhead17 | after running sudo glance-manage version_control 0 | 05:49 |
| koolhead17 | wolfric, http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/Glance_Config-d1a734.html | 05:49 |
| wolfric | well that db_sync is the next command after glance-manage verison_control 0 | 05:49 |
| wolfric | i assume i need it first before i do that | 05:49 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 05:49 |
| melmoth | i bet your connection line is borked in glance-api.cof | 05:49 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth, without creating glace db schema how will it work | 05:50 |
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| wolfric | connection = mysql://keystone:fgeHioneH9ZO2DJSV9IJSUo6OOva5Z@192.168.1.133/keystone | 05:50 |
| wolfric | randomly generated password (not worried about exposing) | 05:50 |
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| melmoth | hmmm | 05:52 |
| melmoth | you know what ? Here, the only mention of mysql i have in /etc/glance is in glance-registry.conf: | 05:52 |
| melmoth | and it s not connection, it s sql_connection | 05:52 |
| melmoth | sql_connection = mysql://glance:password@127.0.0.1/glance | 05:53 |
| wolfric | fuck... | 05:53 |
| wolfric | how did i miss that... | 05:53 |
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| wolfric | hold on let me try that again | 05:54 |
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| wolfric | melmoth: fantastic thanks, error gone :) | 06:00 |
| livemoon | anyone config keystone with ssl? | 06:00 |
| melmoth | \o/ | 06:01 |
| melmoth | livemoon, i try to. I failed. | 06:01 |
| melmoth | livemoon, you need a third party web server to do so | 06:01 |
| livemoon | melmoth, do you have some docs about it? | 06:01 |
| melmoth | nope livemoon, all i have is https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg15438.html | 06:01 |
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| livemoon | thanks | 06:02 |
| melmoth | an answer point to http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/04/keystone-httpd/ wich should explain how to do it | 06:02 |
| melmoth | but i then started to hunt another fish :) | 06:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038905 in quantum "Response of GET / contains v1.0/1.1 API versions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038905 | 08:01 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | hey people | 08:18 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | is anyone using swift with keystone authentication??? | 08:18 |
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| melmoth | hola ! p3N74d4V1D | 08:18 |
| melmoth | i did. | 08:18 |
| melmoth | i havent try out for a long time though | 08:18 |
| p3N74d4V1D | hey melmoth back from vacation ?? | 08:19 |
| melmoth | vacation ? | 08:19 |
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| melmoth | it was work. | 08:19 |
| p3N74d4V1D | hahaha | 08:19 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | aight | 08:20 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | good to have you back anyways | 08:20 |
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| melmoth | today, i m just here with a half brain. | 08:20 |
| melmoth | so, what s going on with swift and keysone on your side ? | 08:21 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | I was using swift temp auth | 08:21 |
| p3N74d4V1D | but now I wanna move to keystone | 08:21 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | should I rebuild all the ring? | 08:21 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | coz after modifying my configuration | 08:22 |
| melmoth | i dont think so. (but i havent try) | 08:22 |
| p3N74d4V1D | and restarting the proxy server | 08:22 |
| melmoth | i am assuming there are the same user in keystone as those used in existing swift bucket. | 08:22 |
| p3N74d4V1D | it cannot find the rings | 08:22 |
| melmoth | hmmm | 08:22 |
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| melmoth | may be you should then :) | 08:22 |
| p3N74d4V1D | hehe | 08:22 |
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| melmoth | to be honest, i never try to migrate frmo a kesytoneless to a keystone swift install. | 08:23 |
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| p3N74d4V1D | aight | 08:23 |
| FlorianOtel | koolhead17, you here ? | 08:24 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, during glance index i get in logs http://pastie.org/4555269 | 09:09 |
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| alex88 | it seems wrong auth credentials, how can i try to login in keystone? | 09:09 |
| alex88 | just to test the user directly there? | 09:09 |
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| alex88 | i've installed openstack 10 times, never got this error lol | 09:26 |
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| melmoth | alex88, http://pastebin.com/hD7MFx6y | 09:29 |
| melmoth | this is how you can see if you can get a token with a login/password/tenant | 09:29 |
| alex88 | melmoth: http://pastie.org/4555342 correct? | 09:30 |
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| melmoth | alex88, yep, your token is 004ddb9b57f64b899e4011b2b19d9aa5 | 09:31 |
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| melmoth | you can try now stuff like curl -H "X-Auth-Token:004ddb9b57f64b899e4011b2b19d9aa5" http://localhost:5000/v2.0/tenants| python -mjson.tool | 09:31 |
| melmoth | best thing to do, is , i think, 1) look at the keystone log when you experience the glance error. 2) use tcpdump to check it connect to the right machine/port, and see the full http request | 09:32 |
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| melmoth | you can record what s happening with tcpudmp -w afile.cap, and then read it, and see the http communication with wireshark. | 09:33 |
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| alex88 | i seen only tenant admin, not service | 09:34 |
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| alex88 | btw, let me try with tcpdump | 09:34 |
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| alex88 | melmoth: can it be that it tries to use the glance user as in config files? | 09:38 |
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| alex88 | melmoth: found the problem | 09:42 |
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| alex88 | i've installed nova-metadata-api on another compute node for multi_host, should i change some ip in nova.conf to use localhost for metadata? | 10:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038962 in quantum "Exception while associating a floating ip" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038962 | 11:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038970 in quantum "TunnelIP is not used in ovs model v2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038970 | 11:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038979 in nova "extra_specs with no keyword not ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038979 | 11:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038996 in quantum "local agent's local ip is not synched to other agents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038996 | 12:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1038994 in glance "IMAGE_SIZE_CAP needs to be configurable" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038994 | 12:11 |
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| uksysadmin | hello peeps | 12:16 |
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| kviiri | Hello | 12:18 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039002 in nova "Test for duplicate device in attach volume not being checked in API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039002 | 12:21 |
| uksysadmin | kviiri, how are you? | 12:21 |
| kviiri | uksysadmin: Fine thanks | 12:21 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel, how is that Horizon patch set coming along <grin> | 12:22 |
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| uksysadmin | awesome kviiri | 12:22 |
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| kviiri | You? :) | 12:23 |
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| kviiri | Hah, my other irc shell went down | 12:25 |
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| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, All done | 12:37 |
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| uksysadmin | I'm suffering today - off ill. bored though. refused to do work, so popped on here instead. | 12:44 |
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| kviiri | uksysadmin: Try to get better | 12:55 |
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| uksysadmin | cheers - very inconvenient timing. I have a lust for learning stuff recently, the tiredness isn't helping. | 12:56 |
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| kviiri | Ugh, I know that feeling... one really learns to appreciate one's health when ill, though | 13:08 |
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| uksysadmin | indeed. so I'm now eating cake to make me feel better. haha. anybody would think this was an openstack channel. ;-) | 13:12 |
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| * uksysadmin says sorry - thought it says OpenSick | 13:12 | |
| kviiri | Having offtopic chit chat is way better than utter silence though | 13:13 |
| uksysadmin | I like the conversations on here… "blah has joined #openstack. blah has left #openstack." < memorable conversations ;-) | 13:14 |
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| kviiri | I have those on ignore | 13:15 |
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| avoine | yeah, people on mac os with sleep unable join and quit every 10min | 13:16 |
| avoine | *enable | 13:16 |
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| Spirilis | hmm, anyone familiar with migrations in essex? I just got one successfully run (nova migrate ... did a disk-copy migration) but I noticed the dhcp info was never updated, the original host still has the info in its nova-br100.conf | 13:17 |
| EmilienM | Spirilis: which network manager are you using ? | 13:18 |
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| Spirilis | FlatDHCP | 13:19 |
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| Spirilis | also looks like I used "nova migrate" as opposed to "nova live-migration" although the 2 hypervisor nodes don't have NFS linking them anyhow... | 13:20 |
| Spirilis | the VM was running when it migrated, but one of the NFS mounts didn't work oddly enough | 13:21 |
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| uksysadmin | damn people on macs… (says me on a mac… ) I have one of those nodding birds like off The Simpsons tapping my keyboard now and again so as not to go to sleep | 13:23 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard, morning!! :) | 13:23 |
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| kbringard | howdy | 13:25 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: | 13:25 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard, am good. long time. how have you been? | 13:26 |
| kbringard | uksysadmin: don't forget you can triple you productivity by just hitting "Y" | 13:26 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: not bad, trying to stay alive | 13:26 |
| kbringard | how about yourself? | 13:26 |
| koolhead17 | am good too. :) | 13:27 |
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| uksysadmin | kbringard, I'm all for taking away choice for people - all it does is waste time in discussions… the Y key should just be the "any key" | 13:27 |
| uksysadmin | Just realised and got reminded… I've not voted for the peeps on the Foundation Board yet. | 13:28 |
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| uksysadmin | ah, dang… I'm on "moorcock.freenode.net" again. why me? It was just funny the first time around. | 13:43 |
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| Spirilis | humm, looks like there's some post-migration process that runs, I think I didn't wait for that | 13:45 |
| Spirilis | though, rather curious why the network rework part doesn't happen right away upon migration | 13:46 |
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| Spirilis | although, actually, looks like it does | 13:47 |
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| Spirilis | since the status update of RESIZE_VERIFY occurs after the network rework piece | 13:47 |
| Spirilis | (thinking out loud in the chan, lol) | 13:47 |
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| Spirilis | oof nice, now after migrating it back to the original host, the dhcp info is deleted on that | 13:49 |
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| Spirilis | heh, "nova resize-confirm" has to be run manually | 14:00 |
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| UICTamale | does openstack include a simpledb compatible equivalent? | 14:10 |
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| Spirilis | not sure but it does use SQLAlchemy, so I think you could replace all the mysql:// URLs with something different | 14:15 |
| UICTamale | interesting | 14:15 |
| Spirilis | however of course for remote nodes, i.e. nova-compute nodes, the DB type needs to be available over the network somehow | 14:18 |
| Spirilis | ah wait I think I read you wrong there | 14:18 |
| Spirilis | simpledb being Amazon's DB service... | 14:18 |
| Spirilis | yeah I don't think openstack has one of those yet. | 14:18 |
| Spirilis | I was thinking of the backend mysql (or SQLAlchemy, rather) glue that ties the services together :) | 14:18 |
| UICTamale | i was gonna say | 14:19 |
| UICTamale | i tried to find some info on that | 14:19 |
| UICTamale | I'm trying to set up priam with our cassandra install in openstack, but priam relies on simpledb | 14:19 |
| Spirilis | ahh gotcha | 14:19 |
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| kbringard | in essex keystone, what's the best way to determine what users are in a tenant? | 14:24 |
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| kbringard | the only way I can think to do it is to iterate over all the users and do a role-list —user $i —tenant_id $id | 14:25 |
| zynzel | kbringard: keystone-manage list_grant_roles |grep tenant_id ? ;) | 14:26 |
| zynzel | not the best, but works | 14:26 |
| kbringard | zynzel: ah! | 14:26 |
| kbringard | I forget about keystone-manage now ;-) | 14:26 |
| zynzel | list_role_grants * | 14:27 |
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| kbringard | hmmm, it doesn't seem to be working | 14:27 |
| kbringard | doesn't seem to think list_grant_roles is a valid command | 14:27 |
| zynzel | kbringard: list_role_grants | 14:27 |
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| kbringard | hmmm, still nothing | 14:28 |
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| kbringard | says it's an invalid command :-/ | 14:29 |
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| kbringard | for i in $( keystone user-list | grep -v id | grep -v \- | awk '{ print $2 }' ); do echo $i; keystone role-list --user $i --tenant_id $tenant_id; done | 14:36 |
| kbringard | zynzel: that works ^^ | 14:36 |
| kbringard | also not pretty, but I don't have too many users in this env, so you know | 14:36 |
| kbringard | script it and toss some greps in there to only give you what you want and it should be pretty easy to manage | 14:36 |
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| kbringard | of course, that specific command assumes you don't have a user with a - in their name, but that should be easy to fix | 14:37 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039069 in ceilometer "remove "duration" field" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039069 | 15:16 |
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| ijw | Has anyone used devstack and quantum recently? I seem to be getting an error because quantum_server isn't loading the plugin's config (and therefor DB file). | 15:22 |
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| davidha | Hi, does anyone here successfully completed the instructions of becoming a contributor? | 15:30 |
| zhuadl | davidha: use this wiki to add yourself: http://wiki.openstack.org/Contributors | 15:31 |
| zhuadl | login and edit the wiki | 15:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039080 in horizon "UUID Consistency: remove instance ID from create volume snapshot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039080 | 15:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039082 in horizon "UUID Consistency: change volume id to name in volume shnapshot table" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039082 | 15:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039089 in horizon "UUID Consistency: create volume snapshot detail page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039089 | 16:05 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039090 in horizon "UUID Consistency: remove instance UUID from floating ip table" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039090 | 16:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039093 in nova "Policy doesn't allow network:get_fixed_ip_by_address to be performed." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039093 | 16:16 |
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| swinchen | So... if I take a snapshot of an VM that had a 25GB disk, is it possible to create a VM of that snapshot that has a 10GB disk? | 16:37 |
| swinchen | It doesn't look like it is working. | 16:37 |
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| smoser | anyone succcessfully used python-novaclient against rackspace cloud? | 16:39 |
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| annegentle | smoser: yep it works, though you need some extra stuff in your creds… see http://docs.rackspace.com/servers/api/v2/cs-gettingstarted/content/section_gs_install_nova.html | 16:41 |
| smoser | i think that doesn't work with current pytho-novaclient | 16:42 |
| smoser | at least my experience | 16:42 |
| smoser | NOVA_VERSION is completely ignored now. | 16:42 |
| annegentle | smoser: what version does it not work with? | 16:42 |
| annegentle | smoser: with which version (heh heh grammarian) | 16:43 |
| smoser | i'm using what is packaged in ubuntu quantal (2.6.10.37-0ubuntu1) | 16:43 |
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| annegentle | smoser: I've got 2.6.10.27 | 16:43 |
| annegentle | from pipy | 16:44 |
| smoser | hm.. | 16:44 |
| annegentle | our docs recommend pipy (er pypi) | 16:44 |
| annegentle | hm | 16:44 |
| annegentle | gotta run to a meeting, but let me know what you find out | 16:44 |
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| jaygeebee | smoser: are you trying to auth with a rax api key, or password? If you've got RAX_AUTH set, you need to use the API key from rs. | 16:47 |
| smoser | i was trying to use api key. and saw the comment there about apikey/password | 16:48 |
| clarkb | looking in the git log "Rename NOVA_VERSION to OS_COMPUTE_API_VERSION." | 16:48 |
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| clarkb | and depending on how closely quantal follows trunk you may be affected by https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/commit/86c713b17ac8984b54ff767d83ab41037e7a7833 | 16:49 |
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| smoser | but. i just test now and it seems to work if i use password instead and remove NOVA_RAX_AUTH | 16:49 |
| smoser | clarkb, yeahy, and i was just going to say, it seems that htere is no 'rackpace' auth plugin | 16:50 |
| jaygeebee | 'pip install rackspace-novaclient' will get you the rs auth plugin. | 16:50 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039112 in keystone "Cannot run Keystone in debugger" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039112 | 16:50 |
| jaygeebee | from there, either set NOVA_RAX_AUTH, or –os_auth_system rackspace , or OS_AUTH_SYSTEM=rackspace | 16:51 |
| smoser | jaygeebee, thanks. i guess that ubuntu needs rackspace-novaclient packaged. | 16:51 |
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| smoser | is that just the auth portion? | 16:51 |
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| jaygeebee | rackspace-novaclient is a metapackage, https://github.com/rackspace/rackspace-novaclient | 16:53 |
| jaygeebee | which ensures you get rackspace-auth-openstack | 16:53 |
| jaygeebee | urw smoser. | 16:54 |
| smoser | right. i see that. | 16:54 |
| smoser | thanks. | 16:54 |
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| jaygeebee | NOVA_RAX_AUTH is supposed to go away at some point, so I'd stick to the auth_system option or env var. | 16:54 |
| smoser | right. i saw that too. | 16:55 |
| jaygeebee | cool! | 16:55 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: ^ did you catch all that? basically provider specific auth extensions were moved into plugins | 16:58 |
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| smoser | jaygeebee, annegentle it must have beeen user error before, but i have this working now for dfw: | 17:17 |
| smoser | export OS_USERNAME=my-username \ | 17:17 |
| smoser | OS_PASSWORD=my-api-key \ | 17:17 |
| smoser | OS_REGION_NAME=DFW \ | 17:17 |
| smoser | OS_TENANT_NAME=my-account-id \ | 17:17 |
| smoser | OS_AUTH_URL=https://identity.api.rackspacecloud.com/v2.0/ \ | 17:17 |
| smoser | OS_COMPUTE_API_VERSION=2 \ | 17:17 |
| smoser | NOVA_SERVICE_NAME=cloudServersOpenStack | 17:17 |
| smoser | on quantal with only 'python-novaclient' | 17:17 |
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| smoser | hm.. but i can't seem to get london to work. | 17:19 |
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| AndrewWeiss | hey guys...anyone know where I can get some openstack swag? t-shirts, stickers, etc? | 17:41 |
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| oddomar | whatchall know bout OPENSTACK! | 19:12 |
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| swinchen | What is the correct way to shrink an ext4 partition in a qcow2 image? | 19:23 |
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| oddomar | qemu-img resize windows.qcow2 +5GB ?? | 19:33 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: Do you mean "shrink an ext4 partition and shrink the qcow2 continer so it's only the size of the used space on the new partition"? | 19:37 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: Because your question as-asked is easy. resize2fs to the new size, remake the partition accordingly (slightly larger is safest), then resize2fs with no size so it fills in any gaps | 19:37 |
| Diopter | Has nothing to do with qcow's though | 19:38 |
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| swinchen | Diopter: yes, I mean: "shrink an ext4 partition and shrink the qcow2 continer so it's only the size of the used space on the new partition" | 19:52 |
| swinchen | Diopter: the problem I am having is I did a ton of work on a 100GB instance, I created a snapshot, and now I can't seem to make a VM with less than 100GB disk. | 19:53 |
| Diopter | swinchen: Cool. Do you want the qcow's maximum size to change? Or just basically compress it to reflect the new data contained inside? | 19:53 |
| Diopter | swinchen: The simplest thing to try is just compressing the qcow, and see if that does what you want. | 19:53 |
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| Diopter | qemu-img convert -c -p -f qcow2 -t unsafe -O qcow2 /path/to/source.img /path/to/dest.img | 19:55 |
| swinchen | Diopter: I guess I am slightly confused. What exactly does resize2fs do? | 19:55 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: Resizes an ext2/3/4 filesystem. Which does not resize the partition it's in. | 19:56 |
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| swinchen | Diopter: ahhh, I see. to change the partition I would need to delete the partition and recreate it? | 19:56 |
| swinchen | :/ | 19:56 |
| Diopter | Yep. Which can be done as manually or automatically as you like, depending on distro/packages/tooling. | 19:57 |
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| Diopter | But again, you probably don't even want or need that. Try the qemu-img convert, and see what size the dest.img is | 19:57 |
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| Diopter | Based on what you're telling me, you did a lot of I/O in your 100GB qcow, and you want to compress it back down to the actual used-space only. Which is compressing it. | 19:58 |
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| swinchen | Diopter: sorry, the size of the qcow2 image is fine (9.9GB - 6.5GB data + overhead)... but when I create a new VM from the snapshot the flavor I select is 15 GB, but it create a 100GB disk (the same as the snapshot) | 19:59 |
| kbringard | the disk size in the flavor is the ephemeral disk | 19:59 |
| kbringard | which (in general) is /dev/vdb | 20:00 |
| swinchen | I have ephemeral set to 0. | 20:00 |
| kbringard | I thought you said the flavor you select is 15? | 20:00 |
| swinchen | ID = 8, Name = m1.custom, Memory_MB = 2048, Disk = 15, Ephemeral = 0, Swap = , VCPUs = 2, RXTX_Factor = 1.0 | 20:01 |
| kbringard | o | 20:02 |
| kbringard | then I'm not sure :-) | 20:02 |
| swinchen | Yeah, I am not sure what the use of ephemeral is really... it seems like a volume is of more use to me. | 20:03 |
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| swinchen | Diopter: I am trying to compress it right now | 20:04 |
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| swinchen | Worse comes to worse I will just create a new image, archive copy from the old image to the new, chroot and reinstall the bootloader. | 20:07 |
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| swinchen | Diopter: that was cool, it shrunk down the image from 9.9 to 5.8G, but new VMs are still made with 25GB of disk :/ | 20:12 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: Fun. Not sure. Got busy right now. | 20:14 |
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| Ryan_Lane | how can I tell the difference between public and private IP addresses in the nova api? | 20:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | they all seem to come back in the same set | 20:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | with nothing that differentiates them | 20:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | I see network names, but that doesn't really do much for me... | 20:38 |
| jeremyb | wouldn't that be kinda easy to figure out for v4 ? v6 is a totally different question though | 20:42 |
| * jeremyb wonders if the new eqiad cluster has v6 ;) | 20:42 | |
| Diopter | Ryan_Lane: Public IP addresses are any address not in the APIPA, RFC1918 or RFC1700 ranges, at least when talking about ipv4 | 20:42 |
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| Ryan_Lane | well, EC2 API split that apart for you | 20:43 |
| Diopter | (127/8, 10/8, 172.16/12, 192.168/16, 169.254/16) | 20:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | I guess I'll move that logic into my app | 20:43 |
| jeremyb | Diopter: multicast? but you won't have those as an IP anyway | 20:43 |
| Diopter | And anything not in class D or E, to exclude multicast and experimental :P | 20:43 |
| swinchen | Hmmm, gparted looks like it will do what I need it to. I would like to figure a command-line way to do the same thing. | 20:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | that means I need to handle it for ipv4 and ipv6, which kind of sucks | 20:43 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: It's somewhat painful. | 20:44 |
| Diopter | Ryan_Lane: v6 is relatively easy. You really only need to handle global prefixes to identify "public" IPs. | 20:44 |
| jeremyb | Diopter: what does that mean? | 20:45 |
| * jeremyb is a v6 noob... | 20:45 | |
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| swinchen | Diopter: The command line stuff? I agree. Once I resize the partition with gparted... should I re-compress the qcow2 file? Or is there something I need to do to shrink the "disk size" | 20:45 |
| jeremyb | Diopter: specifically "gloabl prefixes" | 20:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039212 in glance "AttributeError: 'CooperativeReader' object has no attribute 'read'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039212 | 20:46 |
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| Diopter | jeremyb: Anything in 2000::/3 is global. | 20:46 |
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| jeremyb | hrmmm | 20:47 |
| Diopter | swinchen: That's about it. Resizing the partition with gparted will resize the fs in it too, then you can compress the qcow | 20:47 |
| swinchen | Ok, thanks Diopter I didn't know if would still be a sparse 100GB image. | 20:48 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: As far as the internal FS is concerned, it won't be. As far as the qcow is concerned, if you compress it, it will consider each unused block as taking up zero space (= sparse) | 20:49 |
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| Diopter | Whether that solves your snapshotting problem is another question entirely | 20:50 |
| jeremyb | took me several seconds to grasp the size of 2000::/3 | 20:50 |
| Diopter | It's a pretty enormous space | 20:50 |
| jeremyb | it's 2000:: -> (4000:: -1) | 20:51 |
| Diopter | Most globals currently start with 2001, for reference. | 20:51 |
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| Diopter | 4000 -1 = 3fff | 20:51 |
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| Diopter | ipv6 is in hex :) | 20:52 |
| jeremyb | well, and then f's til the cows come home. i didn't want to type all the f's ;) | 20:52 |
| Diopter | heh heh | 20:52 |
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| swinchen | I think I might need to call qemu-img resize, or virt-resize. I am trying to shrink a 25GB image, and after using gparted I still get this with "qemu-img info" virtual size: 25G (26843545600 bytes) | 20:52 |
| jeremyb | Diopter: so if someone makes a "private" address (e.g. firewalled) in a gloabl prefix? | 20:53 |
| swinchen | What a pain in the ass | 20:53 |
| Diopter | swinchen: to change that would require calling resize, yes. | 20:53 |
| Diopter | That's part of the qcow's config | 20:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah, seems php has a pre-made way of handling private/public addresses for ipv4 and ipv6 | 20:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | so, easy enough :) | 20:53 |
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| jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: well if not, surely MW does | 20:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | filter_var( $address, FILTER_FLAG_NO_PRIV_RANGE ) | 20:54 |
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| comptona | How do I configure nova-volume to use a GlusterFS-backed directory to store volumes, instead of LVM? | 21:25 |
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| ijw | Can someone tell me what Q_HOST should be set to (quantum_url's host) when installing multinode devstack? | 21:27 |
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| ijw | I'm trying to work out if I'm missing a service locally on the compute node, or whether it should point back to the API node. | 21:27 |
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| Ryan_Lane | comptona: based on my experience with gluster, I think that would be a bad idea | 21:40 |
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| Ryan_Lane | comptona: gluster handles large files that are held open for long periods of time very poorly | 21:40 |
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| comptona | Ryan_Lane: is there a community-preferred solution for scalable storage? | 21:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | open source kind of sucks for storage, unfortunately | 21:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | ceph is an option | 21:41 |
| prometheanfire | are there selinux policies for openstack? | 21:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | and with ceph you can do block storage directly via rbd | 21:41 |
| prometheanfire | and you can boot directly from block storage as well | 21:42 |
| comptona | I'd like both of those things :) | 21:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | though openstack doesn't handle that very well, currently | 21:42 |
| comptona | I'll try out ceph, then | 21:42 |
| comptona | ah | 21:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | but future versions will | 21:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | let me rephrase | 21:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | openstack will boot from volumes perfectly well | 21:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | but you have to go through a bunch of steps to make it happen | 21:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | in the future, those things will occur for you | 21:43 |
| comptona | is there good documentation on those steps? | 21:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | I believe so | 21:43 |
| comptona | I'm trying to do some physical-to-virtual migrations, so I'd like to have boot-from-volume and fault-tolerant volume storage | 21:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | comptona: here's a good article on using ceph with openstack: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/06/10/introducing-ceph-to-openstack/ | 21:44 |
| comptona | awesome, thanks | 21:44 |
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| * prometheanfire plans on deploying ceph/openstack | 21:44 | |
| Ryan_Lane | I believe live migrations aren't supported when using boot from volume | 21:44 |
| prometheanfire | too bad it uses btrfs | 21:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | prometheanfire: you don't need to use btrfs | 21:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | you can use xfs | 21:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | and likely should | 21:45 |
| prometheanfire | we support live migrations? | 21:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | prometheanfire: hahaha | 21:45 |
| prometheanfire | Ryan_Lane: for cepf? | 21:45 |
| prometheanfire | ceph... | 21:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | live migrations are possible if you use shared storage | 21:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | I don't see why rbd doesn't count, but it doesn't | 21:45 |
| prometheanfire | that is odd.... | 21:46 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm not totally sure on plans to make that work | 21:46 |
| Ryan_Lane | it would be nice, though | 21:46 |
| comptona | live migration would be awesome for my use cases, but I could live with booting from a shared volume on another hypervisor with a small amount of downtime | 21:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | that is also not really supported, yet | 21:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | you can do it, but you'd need to modify the database to do so | 21:48 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, also, from what I know, since it's not considered shared storage yet you have to tear the VM down and rebuild on the alternate HV | 21:48 |
| prometheanfire | what he said :D | 21:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | I think someone had a blueprint for it. maybe they are implementing it in folsom | 21:48 |
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| prometheanfire | would be nice | 21:49 |
| comptona | so, ceph isn't considered shared storage; which things are? NFS and SAN? | 21:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | the blueprint was for evacuation of hardware nodes | 21:49 |
| prometheanfire | iscsi stuff probably | 21:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | nfs, glusterfs | 21:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | etc | 21:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | iscsi isn't | 21:49 |
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| Ryan_Lane | fc isn't | 21:49 |
| comptona | so glusterfs _is_ considered shared storage then? | 21:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | yes | 21:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I don't recommend it | 21:50 |
| prometheanfire | intresting | 21:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I've been plagued with outages due to it | 21:50 |
| comptona | but it would be a bad idea to put volumes on it? | 21:50 |
| comptona | ah | 21:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I ended up moving away from it | 21:50 |
| comptona | so it's possible, but not reliable | 21:50 |
| prometheanfire | Ryan_Lane: you said xfs can go beneath ceph instead of btrfs? | 21:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | prometheanfire: yep | 21:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | ext4 too | 21:51 |
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| Ryan_Lane | any filesystem with xattrs as far as I know | 21:51 |
| ev0ldave | ryan_lane: what issues with glusterfs did you encounter | 21:51 |
| ev0ldave | and what version? | 21:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | ev0ldave: It was impossible to replace a brick without taking the entire cluster down to its knees, for one | 21:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | and for hours at that | 21:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | ev0ldave: 3.2 and 3.3 | 21:52 |
| comptona | Ryan_Lane: I'd also be curious to know what you migrated to instead of glusterfs | 21:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | comptona: local storage on the compute nodes | 21:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | I have a script for cold migration of instances that modifies the database | 21:52 |
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| comptona | so the standard nova-volume with a LVM volume group? | 21:52 |
| prometheanfire | Ryan_Lane: I thought it was only ext4 and btrfs, intresting | 21:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | no. we don't use volumes | 21:53 |
| comptona | oh, ok | 21:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | my enviroment isn't a standard public cloud | 21:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's public/private and large storage is done with glusterfs as a shared filesystem inside of the instances | 21:53 |
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| Ryan_Lane | we may switch to ceph for that, though | 21:53 |
| ev0ldave | i fought against shared storage but our dev team just had to have live migration | 21:54 |
| prometheanfire | Ryan_Lane: you seperate the pub/priv with vlans? | 21:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | prometheanfire: well, it's public/private from a political POV | 21:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/ | 21:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | anyone can join, but you need to be working on something related to wikimedia foundation | 21:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | from an implementation POV, it's mostly like a public cloud | 21:55 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 21:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | but, since it's all one project, we tightly integrate things more | 21:55 |
| * prometheanfire is going to be deploying a 'cloud' that seperates privliges via vlans mostly | 21:55 | |
| Ryan_Lane | err. let me rephrase | 21:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | since it's all towards a single goal, we integrate things more tightly. we have hundreds of projects (tenants) | 21:56 |
| prometheanfire | and they share a private vlan? | 21:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's flatdhcp networking | 21:57 |
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| prometheanfire | I think what I am looking to do is simply have multiple private vlans, which can be done, just diferent | 21:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. you can do vlan networking mode | 21:57 |
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| prometheanfire | working out node count now, I think I'll put most of the control nodes on a single host (with failover), then have a couple compute nodes (2-3) for testing | 21:58 |
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| z00dax6 | hi guys | 22:11 |
| z00dax6 | just wondering if there was anyone using openstack on CentOS at the moment ? | 22:11 |
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| Ryan_Lane | why does add-floating-ip and remove-floating-ip take an eternity in essex? | 22:30 |
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| Ryan_Lane | really it's just the reporting that takes an eternity. it's pretty quick actually adding and removing the address | 22:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1039266 in nova "null values in extensions are inconsistent" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039266 | 22:41 |
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| Ryan_Lane | hm. odd. actually, nova list has a really long lag, but my web interface doesn't. | 22:42 |
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| Hunner | Hello, I'm trying to find how an instance may know which tentent it belongs to. I can curl /meta-data/mpi and see the tenant in the list of items returned, but there isn't anything to distinguish it from the others afaik | 23:33 |
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