Friday, 2012-10-12

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atriusvolume_manager : nova.volume.manager.VolumeManager  <-- it says this in the log... i haven't found any other mention of volume.manager.. double checking00:02
atriusyeah... no other mention of it00:02
atriusit is like it is ignoring the setting all together00:02
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norris900sorry i cant help much i have experience with RBD yet but i expect that is where the problem lies00:04
bodepd_I have a question about installing quantum with the ovs plugins00:04
norris900have no*00:04
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atriusnorris900: okay.. i'll keep poking at it :)00:04
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bodepd_on the agent,the service does not start and complains about the openvswitch module being missing00:05
bodepd_are we supposed to compile the module by hand?00:05
norris900naaa but check you have everything installed, there are some modules missing in a few of the guides00:07
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bodepd_norris900: what all needs to be installed?00:10
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norris900bodepd: sorry my documentation is at work, so $history is all i have to work with00:15
bodepd_norris900: I would be happy to see your history00:15
bodepd_norris900: I almost have openvswitch and quantum working, but I had to install the kernel headers, and manually compile hte module00:16
bodepd_norris900: someone mentioned that there shoudl be package that does that for me, but I am not entirely sure what package that is00:16
norris900well i have been working on ovs for 12 hours and im still hitting errors00:17
mnaserif you guys are seeing missing modules from docs, please submit docs bug reports00:18
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mnaserit would be really helpful for others in the future and possibly you :p00:18
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norris900mnaser: I have found many small faults in the installation documents. Unfortunately i dont think im good enough to say what is an actual fault and what is caused by my deviation from the documents00:22
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mnasernorris900: ah, that's a completetly valid point00:23
mnaseri wish i could help people more with quantum but i'm not very network savant neither do we use it here00:24
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* atrius kicks nova-volume00:24
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norris900quantum is so complex it could really use a better manual/walkthrough00:25
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norris900I mean the folsom installation guide only covers it on a single node00:28
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atriusnorris900: i was under the impression that quantum was a single node solution00:32
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norris900atrius: if thats the case whats the point of having server and agent configuration?00:33
atriusalso... why in the world is nova_volume totally ignoring what i'm putting into nova.conf :-(00:33
atriusi just told it something totally wrong... it failed.. but also clearly didn't pay any attention to what i told it (no mention in the log of the SolarisISCSIDriver i just told it to use)00:34
atriusnorris900: good point00:34
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norris900any other problems with nova or just the volumes?00:35
atriusjust volumes.. the install works otherwise.. well.. live migrations weren't working.. but that, i think, was due to a crappy storage system.. thus the desire to give ceph a whirl which brings us to the current annoyance00:35
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atriusgrrrrrrrrrrrrrr00:36
norris900i know that feeling00:36
atriusyou know what's fun? when the documentation is wrong.. that's always fun00:36
atriushttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/volume-drivers.html <-- says use dashes00:36
norris900lol i have already bitched about that this evening00:36
atriushttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/rados.html <-- no dashes00:36
atriusguess which one works00:36
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norris900i spent all day working on a problem caused by a space infront of a line in my quantum.conf file00:38
atriusgot to love that00:38
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atriusthe parser isn't the brightest spark in the sky, huh? :D haha00:39
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norris900niether am i00:39
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atriuslol00:40
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* scalability-junk just read: docs.stackops.org/display/STACKOPSDOCS/Community+-+Requirements are nics of 10GboE + 1Gb really recommended? seems like a bit of overkill..00:53
scalability-junkespecially for a 2 node setup00:54
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norris900no such thing as network overkill00:57
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* norris900 just read a guide that recomended using the glance mysql user for the quantum database also , very confused by that01:01
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atriusnorris900: truth01:11
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bodepd_I put together the process of how I can get openvswitch installed: https://gist.github.com/387687301:39
bodepd_is there an easier way? the installation instructions don't mention most of these steps?01:40
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norris900nope,, i just found i have live bug with quantum not creating my sql tables01:41
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norris900i hate quantum01:44
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bodepd_did you run the db migration script?01:45
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norris900i didnt even find that script01:46
norris900or any mention of it01:47
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norris900grrrrr parsing errors everywhere01:49
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1065785 in nova "volume and snapshot IDs do not correctly map to UUIDs after folsom upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106578502:01
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Uzixhow to remove died servers from output of `euca-describe-availability-zones verbose`04:43
Uzix?04:43
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1065848 in nova "add_fixed_ip_to_instance not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106584807:21
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ugwayhello everyone!07:23
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ugwayhas enyone tried to implement windows image to openstack using this manual http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-a-windows-image.html ?07:24
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goingstudyhello stackers08:01
goingstudyi come across a problem08:02
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goingstudyi create a instance ,but it stuck in build08:02
goingstudyhow can i solve this problem?08:04
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goingstudyCan anyone help me?08:05
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jongleurgoingstudy: stucks while building?08:06
jongleurso to say, the overview looks like it stays in the state transition?08:07
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foexlegoingstudy: do you have looked in the logs ? any errors on compute, network ?08:09
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goingstudyhello08:13
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jongleurgoingstudy: I faced a similar, probably the same problem a few days ago: A VM stucked while booting and never finished08:15
jongleurtask_state was not null, state was booting I think.08:15
goingstudymy task_state is scheduling08:16
jongleursomeone gave me the tip to set the task-state back to null in the database backend manually, and that solved my problem08:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1065869 in swift "ranged GETs always perform two backend GETs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106586908:16
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adhip_hello everyone08:57
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adhip_actually I'm new in openstack environment, trying to install follow the guide from openstack.org guide09:00
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adhip_but always getting stuck09:00
adhip_:(09:00
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bkatry using devstack09:07
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foexleadhip_: sry but that's not a failure description :)09:13
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adhip_yes I mean, somebody have a complete and simple tutorial to deploy openstack ?09:14
adhip_sorry for my silly question09:15
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jongleuradhip_: there are several tutorials which are complete for the single setup they describe, and incomplete if you have anything not compatible with that - different hardware settings, different configuration targets, different versions for some software packages and so on.09:16
foexleadhip_: if you will try only openstack .... you can use devstack, it's a project to install all openstack copontents on a single or two host system09:16
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adhip_I wish I can learn from scratch, so I can implemented for production09:17
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TanACosASinAlol09:22
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TanACosASinAwhen was the last time anyone updated the glance documentation?09:22
TanACosASinAive got a list of gripes, hopefully make a contrib on the weekend09:23
jongleurdocu-what?09:23
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TanACosASinAjongleur: that's the cinder approach :P09:23
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TanACosASinAat least in the ubuntu cloud archive version of glance, glance-manage is broken it doesnt read the config file correctly. usually wouldnt matter but i was building a new glance from scratch and needed glance-manage db_sync09:25
TanACosASinAi had to set auto_create_db=True in the db/api.py09:26
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TanACosASinAwhat was my last msg? iv had serious issues with freenode recently09:27
lifeless22:26 -!- TanACosASinA [~sina@c114-77-45-236.brodm3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving]09:27
TanACosASinAlol09:27
TanACosASinAone msg before that pls lifeless :P09:27
lifeless22:26 < TanACosASinA> i had to set auto_create_db=True in the db/api.py09:28
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TanACosASinAyeah sweet, guess it was just irssi playing up. thanks09:29
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Uzix how to remove died servers from output of `euca-describe-availability-zones verbose`?09:35
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lifelessnova delete ?09:36
Uzixno, that's delete virtual server. i want to delete nova instance09:37
Uzixaka physical server09:38
lifelessoh, not sure, sorry.09:39
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TanACosASinAyou might have to go into the db uzix09:41
UzixT_T09:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #1065883 in nova "ceph rbd username and secret should be configured in nova-compute, not passed from nova-volume/cinder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106588309:41
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Qtenwhen specifying the keystone endpoint's in a multiserver install are the end points supposed to be the virtual servers of the services or all point at keystone vm?09:43
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1065899 in nova "remove-fixed-ip raise InvalidUUID Exception" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106589909:46
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itarchitectkevQten, endpoints are where the service resides. You don't mention each nova-compute instance - they're not an endpoint - they're a resource used by nova and ec2 endpoints09:48
Qtenthanks kev09:49
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itarchitectkevnp09:52
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TanACosASinAdashboard is KILLING me10:02
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TanACosASinAhttps://answers.launchpad.net/horizon/+question/21080310:05
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TanACosASinAi have been poking at the code, it seems like its actually getting an empty service catalog for some reason10:06
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, note the $ instead of % in the correct version10:08
itarchitectkevyou have http://127.0.0.1:8776/v1/%(tenant_id)s  instead of http://127.0.0.1:8776/v1/$(tenant_id)s maybe?10:09
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TanACosASinAsorry itarchitectkev which one is correct?10:10
itarchitectkev$10:10
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TanACosASinAah really?!10:11
TanACosASinAwhy is it % in keystone-init config.yaml?10:12
itarchitectkevMine is: http://paste.openstack.org/show/21672/10:12
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, not sure - I remember an old problem during keystone woes during Essex where there was $ and % confusion10:12
itarchitectkevShame it still seems to be here10:12
TanACosASinAARFHGHTRUHGD10:12
TanACosASinAlol <3 itarchitectkev i love you10:13
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itarchitectkevhaha :)10:13
TanACosASinAlet me pls amend my endpoints one sec10:13
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melmothhey,  i m wondering...10:16
melmothwhen i use quantum, am i suppose to run nova-networks on compute nodes ?10:16
melmothcause i just realised i do10:16
melmoth(i did not plan to, but hey, looks like i do10:16
TanACosASinAno melmoth10:16
* melmoth facepallm10:16
TanACosASinAthe quantum agent will replace nova-network AFAIK10:16
TanACosASinAand there is a new quantum-api service10:16
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TanACosASinAhey itarchitectkev i just msged oyu a keystone endpoint-list10:20
TanACosASinAstill having the same problem10:20
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, damn.10:22
TanACosASinAwhat i dont understand is why, because giving the same credentials to python-keystoneclient on the horizon box returns no errors10:22
TanACosASinAi can do a "keystone service-list" no issues.10:22
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, I faced a similar issue and realised that my service user/password used in some places were incorrect10:22
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: its possible, but i use puppet to manage everything so very unlikely10:23
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, are you using the auth mech or are you putting the key to 35357 instead (bypassing the auth)10:23
TanACosASinAdo you mean in local_settings.py?10:23
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TanACosASinAi think using the auth mech, because i havent put any key into local_settings.py10:23
TanACosASinAit just has the keystone URL, keystone admin URL and keystone default role10:24
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, on the command line, if you have SERVICE_EDNPOINT and SERVICE_TOKEN set, it ignores the user/pass auth to :500010:24
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, so that could explain why your command line works and not Horizon10:24
TanACosASinAah, no on the horizon CLI im using OS_ not SERVICE*10:24
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, hmm.10:24
itarchitectkevSo your underlying keystone works, but Horizon not10:25
itarchitectkevany errs in error.log for apache?10:25
TanACosASinAyep one sec ill paste10:25
TanACosASinAhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/21674/10:26
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itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, hmm - I just checked mine... I get the same error but my installation works :-/10:28
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TanACosASinAah ok thats sort of good lol10:28
TanACosASinAmaybe im having another problem10:28
TanACosASinAso my actual problem is that when i go to login, it just sits there doing nothing at the dashboard login screen10:29
TanACosASinAand thats the only error showing up anywhere10:29
itarchitectkevwhat is the error?10:29
melmothi havent notice this quantum-api service (but i guess it was running as i was able to create networks and stuff)10:29
TanACosASinAthe one i just pasted there itarchitectkev. in the browser it just sits there at the login screen doing nothing10:30
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itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, can the horizon box resolve the address set for kesytone in local_settings.py ?10:30
TanACosASinAok i removed space from the region, still same problem10:30
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: yerp i know keystone is working, because if i type in "TEST/TEST" as the login it says authorisation failed10:31
TanACosASinAi only have tihs problem if i type the correct login/password10:31
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itarchitectkevI ended up stopping keystone then running 'keystone-all -v -d' and viewing debug info10:31
TanACosASinAhmmm ok good call10:31
TanACosASinAone sec lemme try10:31
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, so an incorrect user/pass fails instantly... hmm10:31
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: :((((( i can confirm using verbose and debug that keystone is sending back (response) to the client a EMPTY service catalog10:34
* itarchitectkev is thinking10:35
TanACosASinAhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/21675/10:35
TanACosASinAthe roles is empty too10:36
TanACosASinAmy default role is memberRole, but the default dashboard role is Member10:36
TanACosASinAhmmm, im pretty sure i tried changing it to memberRole and changed it back because it didnt work10:36
itarchitectkevah, ok... it uses that to determine what interface to show10:37
itarchitectkev(I suspect)10:37
TanACosASinAi had this problem trying to log into the syspanel too tho10:38
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itarchitectkevand your admin role is correct too?10:39
TanACosASinA"correct"? my adminUser has the role admin10:39
itarchitectkev(/etc/keystone/policy.json)10:39
TanACosASinAadmittedly, it doesnt have the role memberRole10:39
itarchitectkev^^10:39
TanACosASinA    "admin_required": [["role:admin"], ["is_admin:1"]]10:40
itarchitectkevit should be ok10:41
itarchitectkevyeah - that's ok10:41
itarchitectkevis memcached running?10:41
TanACosASinAyep10:42
TanACosASinA127.0.0.1:1121110:42
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TanACosASinAif i look at the nova-api logs while i log in10:42
TanACosASinAi can see that the dashboard is making some calls with python-novaclient10:42
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TanACosASinAso its like the login procedure has half worked, but it just wont let me into the site proper10:43
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TanACosASinAi can do: keystone user-list, nova image-list, cinder list, glance image-list all using the same "auth.sh" credentials file from the horizon CLI10:44
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TanACosASinAso as far as i can tell ALL the service endpoints are running, accessible and interrogatable from the horizon server?10:44
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itarchitectkevdoes 'keystone catalog' come back with anything?10:47
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TanACosASinAyerp10:48
TanACosASinAreturns the entire thing10:48
TanACosASinApasting onw10:48
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TanACosASinAhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/21677/10:48
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zykes-itarchitectkev: ;p10:49
itarchitectkevzykes-, hello there10:51
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, all looks good...10:51
TanACosASinAits driving me nuts10:51
TanACosASinAi cant figure out where its dying and i cant make it output more information to show where the fault is10:52
zykes-;p10:52
zykes-what you use for networking itarchitectkev ? gre, vlan or flaT ?10:52
itarchitectkevzykes-, gre10:53
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itarchitectkevzykes-, I'm nearly nearly there10:53
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itarchitectkevin 7 minutes I will have alcohol over lunch and when I come back Quantum will make sense10:53
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: is the correct behaviour that a call to keystone /tokens will return a service catalog?10:54
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TanACosASinAbecause it seems like thats what dashboard is expecting, make a call to /tokens, wrangle the response for its nonexistent catalog10:55
zykes-itarchitectkev: why not VLANing ?10:55
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, I believe it should - but why Horizon isn't working is odd10:56
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TanACosASinAwell horizon is not working because keystone isnt giving it a service catalog when it expects one10:57
TanACosASinAbut why thats the case, i have nfi10:57
itarchitectkevzykes-, I'm just following the doc from Emilien - need to get a working set up before I can look at how to do other things10:57
TanACosASinAactually, no im wrong10:57
zykes-;p10:57
itarchitectkevis horizon on the same box as keystone?10:57
TanACosASinAbecause if its ont getting a service catalog, how is it polling onva10:57
TanACosASinAnope, all different servers10:57
TanACosASinAbut iv been checking the iptables logs10:57
itarchitectkevand you can telnet to 5000 and 35357 of keystone from horizon server?10:58
TanACosASinAyerp10:58
TanACosASinAnot just telnet, i can do proper keystone commands from the shell10:58
itarchitectkevok10:58
itarchitectkevwonder if its missing a library - but I would've expected more failures10:59
TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: does 35357 need to be open to everything? or just the ohrizon box10:59
TanACosASinAi thought only services needed access10:59
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TanACosASinAdo i need to open it up to the world?10:59
TanACosASinAsurely not :(11:00
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, I'm not sure - all my installs have been internal so that trust hasn't been much of an issue yet11:00
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TanACosASinAok i just checked my last production install (essex) for last employed and we didnt open 35357 to the world11:02
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, HP Cloud have it open to all the world11:03
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TanACosASinAhmmm11:05
TanACosASinAok im gonna open it up11:05
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TanACosASinAand if i spent the last 5 hours trying to login to this shit11:05
TanACosASinAand its cos i filtered myself out11:05
TanACosASinAill cry.11:05
TanACosASinAbut, i am not seeing anything in the iptables logs on keystone11:05
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itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, good luck whilst I go off and have some food and a pint.11:06
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TanACosASinAenjoy kev, thanks for the help so far. i just switched to my remote window to see the damn dashboard has logged in and i missed exactly what happened! i think it must have logged in after a long time because i clicked logout to log back in and now its timing out again11:09
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gray--hi all, when using swift-ring-builder, my device, as listed here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/installing-and-configuring-the-proxy-node.html is actually the rsync root, as referenced by the rsyncd.conf, rather than the name of the block device?11:24
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1065945 in ceilometer "compute pollster uses internal nova libvirt connection API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106594511:45
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gray--in more precise terms, if my device is /dev/loop0, mounted at /mnt/swift_backend, what would i be listing the device field of swift-ring-builder?  using 'loop0', makes the command look for loop0_, most likely insinuating that I haven't specificed a partition and it wanted one?11:55
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gray--is /srv/node the fallback when it doesn't recognise the location specified?11:57
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TanACosASinAgray--: still there?12:07
gray--hey, how's it going?12:08
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TanACosASinAyour questions a little confusing12:08
TanACosASinAand i only saw it from "in more precise terms..."12:08
gray--:)12:08
TanACosASinAah ok12:09
gray--i'm trying to form my 'swift-ring-builder object.builder add' line12:09
gray--(and account and container)12:09
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TanACosASinAok so lets just go through the steps quickly and you stop me when youre confused?12:09
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TanACosASinA1. echo ",,L" | sfdisk /dev/hdx12:10
gray--i'm using a file based xfs, called /srv/swift-disk, at /dev/loop0, mounted at /mnt/swift_backend12:10
TanACosASinA2. mkfs.xfs -i size=1024 /dev/hdx112:10
TanACosASinA3. mount /dev/hdx1 /srv/node/hdx112:11
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gray--. /dev/loop0            9.6G   33M  9.5G   1% /mnt/swift_backend12:11
TanACosASinA4. swift-ring-builder object.builder add z$ZONENUMBER-$IPADDRESS-$OBJECTPORT:/srv/node/hdx112:11
* gray-- stops you on that bit12:12
TanACosASinAok you dont mount it on /mnt/swift_backend12:12
TanACosASinAall disks for swift to be mounted for /srv/node by convention, else in your swift-ring-builder command you specify :/mnt/swift_backend12:13
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: i have a feeling my problem might be at the company firewall. its late where i am so ill ask the techs tomorrow for a dump of the logs and see if it yields fruit12:13
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TanACosASinAgray--: making sense?12:14
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gray--i think i may have an issue that i mounted it with an underscore, and it thinks the underscore is a partition id perhaps?12:14
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gray--"Oct 12 13:14:53 swift1 container-replicator Skipping  as it is not mounted"12:15
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gray--"Oct 12 13:14:50 swift1 account-replicator Skipping  as it is not mounted"12:15
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gray--(notice the 2 spaces between 'skipping' and 'as'12:15
gray--)12:15
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TanACosASinAwhat is the output when you run swift-ring-builder object.builder in /etc/swift12:16
gray--one sec, will just let this operation finish12:16
gray--when i specified '/mnt/swift_backend', the output of that command gives simply 'mnt/swift'12:17
gray--no trailing or leading slashes12:17
TanACosASinAdo you feel like moving your *.builder, *.ring.gz to /tmp and trying from scratch with me?12:18
gray--d<device_id>z<zone>-<ip>:<port>/<device_name>_<meta>12:18
gray--meta....12:18
gray--that's my issue, it's gotta be12:18
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gray--(from the man page, that is)12:18
TanACosASinAyerp could be12:19
gray--yep, your command confirms that12:19
gray--i see 'backend/' in the meta field on the command output you told me to run ^12:19
TanACosASinAmy advice: the doc for swift is good, follow it12:19
TanACosASinAif it says /srv/node, then /srv/node12:19
gray--that's fair enough, it would have worked if i'd stuck to the doc12:20
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gray--good to have learnt something, much appreciated12:20
* gray-- goes and remounts the devices12:20
TanACosASinAno worries. iv been in here getting help today so happy to give a little back12:20
TanACosASinAmake sure you delete the old entries from the ringfile12:20
gray--it's just a prototype on some VMs, so easy to delete and redeploy12:21
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* gray-- will report back shortly12:21
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itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, saw your update. could explain things - doesn't help your frustration though12:35
itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, replicate the set up on a VM where you control the endpoint security.12:36
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MOsydaWhat can cause the problem with connection to 10.0.2.15? Cant even ping this ip12:38
MOsydahave not changed any config, just restarted devstack12:39
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: cbf, its  23:30 where i am on fri night. i been working harrdddd all week wrestling with undocumented cinder and glance lol, flying out of here on sunday for the summit. time to relax! thanks for your helps12:39
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itarchitectkevTanACosASinA, quitter ;-)12:39
itarchitectkevI'll be at the summit - lets hope someone there can fix the issue ;-)12:39
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TanACosASinAitarchitectkev: im sina from aptira in australia. if you see my nametag hit me up and ill buy you a non-american beer12:41
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TanACosASinAlike i was saying before my network died on me again12:43
TanACosASinAill buy you a beer :P12:43
TanACosASinAthanks, definitely bedtime12:43
gray--holy cow, i think it's working12:43
gray--thanks again TanACosASinA12:43
TanACosASinAno worries, you did the manpage lookup :P12:43
itarchitectkevSee ya TanACosASinA12:44
TanACosASinAhey guys, i just popped into an old channel i usedto hang out on here years ago, and a friend from sweden had archived one of my old websites. it was a "Live Floppy" distribution, dhcpd,httpd,ircd,smtpd,nntpd,etc all on a 1.44mb img blast from the past http://www.monkii.net/herbix/12:45
TanACosASinAthought you might like it lol12:45
TanACosASinAif i recall correctly it made it to number 4 on securityfocus monthly tools once12:45
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nijaba\o/ Ceilometer 0.1 (Folsom) just been released!14:37
zykes-nijaba: don't forget puppet ;p14:37
zykes-https://github.com/ekarlso/puppet-ceilometer14:38
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larsksOpenstack thinks one of my instances is SHUTOFF, even though it's obviously running and I can log into it and everything. Can I make openstack reassess the state of things without futzing about with the database directly?14:42
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koolhead17nijaba, congrats :P14:43
koolhead17hola zykes-14:43
zykes-koolhead17: :)14:44
zykes-you "pinged" earlier :)14:44
koolhead17zykes-, yeah i had some Quantum related doubt  thanks to mirantis guys for excellent docs things got more clear14:45
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zykes-koolhead17: which docs ? ^^14:45
koolhead17zykes-, i meant slideshare presentation14:45
zykes-you mean what's new in folsom ? :p14:46
koolhead17ya14:46
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1066010 in openstack-manuals "Rados and volume documentation out of synch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106601015:01
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itarchitectkevRight - I'm out of here...15:08
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itarchitectkevnext stop (well nearly) ODS :) See you folk there :)15:08
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noob2i'm having trouble trying to integrate quantum with our current trunked setup.  does anyone have a demo setup they can share that uses vlans?15:36
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1066039 in quantum "Docs should mention that if you want to run DHCP + L3 agent on the same host you should not set use_namespaces to False" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106603916:24
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zykes-koolhead17: ;p16:25
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koapsdoes anyone know if you can launch a instance on a certain compute node?16:49
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atriusanyone using GFS2 for shared storage?17:15
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ev0ldaveatrius:  i dont, but if you are planning on switching, dont use gluster17:21
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atriusev0ldave: lol... i tried gluster... it wasn't bad.. but... well.. maybe i did it wrong.. either way... performance was dreadful17:24
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ev0ldaveyeah, i get random corrupt file systems17:26
ev0ldavebricks drop17:26
ev0ldavedont come back, zombies17:27
ev0ldavemigrating off it this weekend17:27
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atriusdoes openstack support installing VMs into raw LVs?17:42
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zykes-atrius: I think you can via the LVM volume backend if I'm not wrong.17:47
atriuszykes-: checking on it now...17:48
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geekinutahhi folks, I'm wondering if there is another way to sync up the nova database instance state with the actual state of an instance17:53
geekinutahI've been editing the database, but that sucks17:53
geekinutahI want to be able to trigger a _sync_power_states() manually I guess17:53
geekinutahany ideas?17:53
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mnasergeekinutah: there's a setting for how often that happens, maybe you can change it17:56
geekinutahyeah17:56
geekinutahthing is17:56
mnasergeekinutah: also i don't know if it's xenserver specific but on nova-compute starts, it runs the power sync check17:56
geekinutahhmmm, I'll check that17:56
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geekinutahmnaser: yeah, it runs update_usage, but _sync_power_states gets run 10 ticks later :(17:59
geekinutahI could turn up intervals17:59
mnaseror wait it out :)17:59
geekinutahbut I already have 300+ compute nodes reporting with several hundred more on the way :(, I don't want to cause a storm18:00
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geekinutahmnaser: found it :-)18:02
geekinutahnova reset-state <instance-uuid>18:02
geekinutahthank you folsom18:02
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atriuszykes-: i can't find an LVM backend.. still looking18:17
atriusor rather, i can't find one for VM creation.. just for nova-volume and persistent storage volumes18:17
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atriusah.. found it.. seems to be a folsom feature18:24
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atriusi don't suppose by some magic there's much in the way in documentation for this new option short of reading the code, huh?18:43
zykes-atrius: let me look18:44
zykes-have you checked out locallvm atrius ?18:44
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atriuszykes-: not yet... checking it out now18:46
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atriuszykes-: it looks like a good solution for regular "volumes", as opposed to instance storage.. but doesn't help with instance storage.. on the other hand, the other post they have indicates that should allow for regular LVM backed instances as you could have in pure kvm/qemu18:49
atriuswhich combined with clustered LVM is very interesting for me18:49
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zykes-atrius: you can boot from volume fyi18:52
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atriuszykes-: only in folsom, right?18:53
ev0ldaveessex supports booting from volume18:54
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atriusev0ldave: with much hate and discontent? i saw the option during instance creation, but haven't gone into it yet18:55
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ev0ldavei haven't tried it, just hear a couple of conversations about it and it is listed in the docs18:57
colon_Dis there any blog posts or something that might go into detail on the advantages of the VLAN Manager versus Flat DHCP in a practical sense?  I know I have no immediate needs for the VLAN networking, but was curious about using it in the future.  Can you mix the two, or is it best to pick one and use that for good?18:57
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ev0ldavecolon_D:  in a sense, the two are mixed when you use vlans.. it is just flat dhcp within a vlan18:58
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colon_Dev0ldave: thx, so essentially unless my network setup requires vlans it's probably not wise to introduce the vlan manager19:00
colon_Dso it's more a question of do you want vlans in the future or not, sans openstack19:00
colon_D:> ty19:00
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critchanyone have experience resizing servers? I issue the resize command with --poll, and it says 10% complete, but server didn't reboot or anything, and the memory is the same on dashboard and in the instance.19:03
critcherr 100% complete19:03
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ev0ldaveright19:08
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sampsonanyone about?19:21
scalability-junkdon't know if anyone's about, but some are idling around yeah19:22
sampsongot a question about object storage... is it possible to use duplicate instead of triplicate storage?19:22
sampsonor is that a very bad thing to do19:22
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mnasersampson: i've read an article about it, i can maybe find it, but duplicating uses the same cpu usage as triplicate or something like that19:22
mnaserso you're doing all the overheads already19:22
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sampsonwell i'm more worried about the data size19:22
sampson3PB of data stored in triplicate is a *lot* of servers19:23
notmynamesampson: ya, it's possible, but you'll have less durability and availability in the case of failure. note that the replication count is set cluster-wide, too. normally, the cost of losing the data is much higher than the cost of the extra storage required19:23
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noob2is it possible to use quantum with openvswitch trunk ports?19:33
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noob2does quantum do everything ?  i'm thinking that me messing withi openvswitch is why i'm running into trouble19:34
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colon_Dthere a command to remove a compute node? nova-manage host list shows the server i wish to purge19:41
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ev0ldavecolon_D:  i just delete it from the nova database19:42
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colon_Dev0ldave: oh yeah?  fooey, no tool for that?19:42
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ev0ldavecolon_D:  there might be that i just dont know about19:42
ev0ldavecolon_D:  https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/17248219:43
ev0ldavedo a nova-manage service disable first though19:44
colon_Dev0ldave: ah, guess it is19:44
colon_Dahh there we go19:44
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ev0ldavethat is an old post though, there could have been changes, i've just gotten more comfortable hacking the database then using the commands19:45
colon_Dcool, i need to poke around in there anyway19:47
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atriusrandom question... why openstack and not something like ovirt?19:56
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ev0ldaveovirt is system management, openstack is cloud provider19:57
ev0ldaveopenstack to allow customers to use/manage their own instances in their own networks19:58
atriussure.. but if you don't really care about that.. what then?19:58
ev0ldavei think eventually there is to be a billing component as well19:58
ev0ldavethen use ovirt :)19:59
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atriusone problem i have with openstack, not to say it isn't awesome in many ways, is that it is very complicated (in some ways) and puts/forces a great deal of abstraction between the underlying bits and what you can do with it19:59
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atriusthe way it, more or less, enforces certain limitations on what qemu/kvm can do or at least can do simply20:00
ev0ldaveit is just a front end for those components20:00
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ev0ldavethe administration portion does have a steep learning curve, but after a while it is incredibly simple to troubleshoot and fix20:01
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atriusi can see how that makes sense from the perspective of what openstack is... but i guess part of me is getting a little tired of looking for ways to get at the functionality presented by libvirt and associated bits.. know what i mean?20:01
ev0ldaveand the modularity of it allows you to write your own custom plugins20:01
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atriusthat's true20:02
koapsthere is a post creation section when you make instances20:02
atriusand i do like it.. i just feel like i'm spending a lot of time working around it, if you know what i mean?20:02
atriuson the flipside.. it provides a lot of stuff that would make life a lot easier in the long run... metadata service and such for instance20:03
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atriusthings that i would otherwise have to either write myself or come up with my own solution to the same problem20:03
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ev0ldavetrue, nova-volume is a nice front end as well, to tgt and open-iscsi20:04
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atriusrelated to all this... the very first time i recently tried to do a live migration of a VM in openstack... the networking promptly went straight to hell... this was under Essex... is that behavior better in Folsom?20:04
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koapsi would imagine its better with quantum20:05
koapsif you get it working right :)20:05
atriuskoaps: lol20:05
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koapsi almost have quantum working right, but still hit a wall when it comes to NAT and the instances20:07
koapsi'm also to the point where I might just drop in pfsense20:08
atriuswhat probably really shook my confidence on openstack was that terribly failed live migration... since that is one of the key things i want... if the floating IP doesn't properly move with the instance... then that is a serious issue20:08
ev0ldaveatrius:  i still run essex and haven't had an issue20:08
ev0ldaveahh, i dont use floating IPs20:08
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koapsatrius: one thing to consider between ovirt and openstack, one uses java one uses python, which would you feel better about find and testing bug issues in?20:09
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ev0ldaveatrius: dont know a lot about ovirt but i do rely on the ability to shove data into an instance with cloud-init to get our servers automated and deployed with chef20:11
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ev0ldaveanyway, in the end it is always about the right tool for the job and ovirt is more of an infrastructure manager where as cloud tools are for service providers20:13
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koapsyou don't use a image pre-built with chef?20:15
atriuskoaps: that's true20:15
koapsi was curious, still getting to that point, but right now I'm thinking that's how I want to go20:16
atriusev0ldave: that's also true.. and the key thing is this... we're not a service provider.. i really like some of the automation and such in openstack... but at the end of the day we're not a cloud provider (not even to parts of our company)... so i can't help but wonder whether all those cool bits are just getting in the way (if that makes sense20:17
koapsyou guys using KVM?20:18
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atriuskoaps: that's the current plan, yeah20:18
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ev0ldavekoaps:  no, i use cloud-init to pull the hostname from a dns plugin I modified from griddydynamics so that the host shoved into chef is hostname.tenant.os.blah.corp instead of using the domain provided by dnsmasq.  this lets multiple tenants have the same hostname and things are happy in chef20:21
ev0ldavecloud-init does a reverse lookup to nova-dns to build the chef files so we just use that opportunity to also install chef and upgrade the servers on spin up20:22
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atriusunrelated... i really wish google would stop linking to tag links... as in "here are a bunch of posts tagged with X! oh, you wanted that one that showed up in the results listing... sorry... that one is lost in time"20:26
ev0ldavekoaps:  also, we keep pretty up to date on chef so as we pull in new versions to our repository they get deployed with the new servers.  we wanted to keep the base images just base.  That way as new images are released we just add them in without having to modify20:26
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koapsev0ldave: what is cloudpipe?20:31
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ev0ldavekoaps:  in amazon ec2 and everyone else i suppose to talk to other regions with your servers you needed an openvpn server to route internal traffic20:33
ev0ldavekoaps:  cloudpipe was an image built to supply just that20:33
koapsah20:33
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ev0ldavewith openvswitch though you should be able to do layer2 over layer320:38
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ev0ldaveequivalent to a cisco QinQ tunnel to allow layer2 to traverse over layer3 in a tunnel20:39
koapsthink that's right, it uses tap/tun20:39
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1066121 in tempest "minDisk filter tests for flavors are failing if two lowest size disk are the same" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106612120:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1066140 in nova "resize-confirm and resize-revert don't work sometimes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106614021:31
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Shreehello21:32
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1066145 in ceilometer "sqlalchemy record_meter resource merge find duplicate rows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106614521:51
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ShreeI am newbie on openstack. Just want to know, can we contribute to some tools development for openstack modules? If yes can you pelase share the URL to get more info on tools development for open-stack?21:54
uvirtbotNew bug: #1066148 in ceilometer "collector sqlalchemy record_metering timestamp timezone unaware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106614821:55
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koapsanyone know why I'm getting this when I try to attach a volume, RemoteError: Remote error: TypeError reserve_block_device_name() takes exactly 5 non-keyword arguments (4 given)22:23
jgriffithkoaps: Not sure... have a nova-api log?22:24
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koapsjgriffith: http://pastebin.com/1xuMiB4V22:25
koapsthe error on the nova-volume is basically the same22:25
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koapsjgriffith: brb, let me know if I should file a bug to make it easier to get logs and go back and forth22:28
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koapsjgriffith: would cinder work better for multiple volumes? like one volume store on each compute node?22:47
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jgriffithkoaps: sorry, got pulled into something else23:14
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koapsno prob23:14
jgriffithkoaps: cinder and nova-vol are pretty much identical23:14
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jgriffithkoaps: did you have something set up here in terms of volume-type definitions?23:15
koapsi think it's the default, which is none right?23:15
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koapsjgriffith: I thought I read that was there snap and everything else, are there more types?23:20
jgriffithkoaps: I was just asking if you had defined anything on your own23:21
jgriffithkoaps: sounds like the answer is no23:21
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koapsyea nope, I used horizon to create the volume23:21
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jgriffithkoaps: Oh... odd23:22
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koapsi'm flushing my setup and taking it down to just one compute node, see if I can repeat the error23:24
jgriffithkoaps: OHHH23:25
jgriffithkoaps: did you forget to specify a device file / mnt point?23:25
koapsthe /dev/vdc ?23:25
jgriffithyeah23:25
koapsyea, horizon won't like you submit the request unless to specify that23:25
koapss/like/let/ that is23:26
jgriffithgood point :)23:26
jgriffithneed to step away for a bit... back in 30 minutes23:26
koapscool no worries23:26
koapsI'll try again and see what happens23:26
koapsi had a lot of issues trying to delete volumes that didn't get created right23:27
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anon12345how do u set a configuration option?23:29
koapswhat you mean?23:30
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anon12345in glance, theres a class that specifies the structure for configuration options23:41
jgriffithaway zzz23:41
anon12345https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/openstack/common/cfg.py23:42
koapsright23:43
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anon12345how do you change the defaults in command line?23:43
koapsthink most of the stuff you put in the config can be dash dash ( -- ) prefixed23:44
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anon12345i'm looking at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1065197 can you show me an example of what the issue is?23:46
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koapsumm my guess would be if you set default_store wrong like --default_store=glance.store.fake.Store23:50
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anon12345what would be an example input into command line?23:51
koapsi don't think that bug is refering to the command line23:52
koapsdefault_store would be in the glance-api.conf23:52
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koapsif you wanted to see the error you can make a broken glance-api.conf and use --config-file to load it23:54
koapslike glance-api --config-file glance-api.conf -v -d23:54
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anon12345i got an error when i ran that23:58
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anon12345glance.openstack.common.cfg.ConfigFilesNotFoundError: Failed to read some config files: /opt/stack/glance/glance-api.conf23:58
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koapsdid you copy a real glance-api.conf?23:59
koapsjust curious, why are you trying to replicate a bug?23:59

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