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roaethowdy all!02:52
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lkthomashey guys03:13
lkthomascouple question on openstack, does openstack is a hosted management solution ?03:14
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hugokuoanyone around ?04:26
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dguitarbitehi04:43
dguitarbitehugo: im here04:43
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kryptowhen i try to delete a volume as admin using Horizon with state "attaching" its saying "Error: You do not have permission to delete volume: volumeee".Why is it so?05:32
dguitarbiteIDK about horizon but for such tasks its generally better if you use shell05:33
dguitarbitemost of the times when you do a small mistake in uploading the volume or regestering it05:34
dguitarbitehorizon cannot delete or modify it.05:34
dguitarbite*shell == API05:34
kryptoi am not able to remove it using nova volume-delete,it says status must be either error or available05:36
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dguitarbitecan you paste it ?05:38
kryptoERROR: Invalid volume: Volume status must be available or error (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-7d4cfea1-8974-42da-aa26-4fef76ec8e6b)05:39
kryptovolume-list shows this status: 882c49e0-e5e4-44da-8f48-2fdc476be9ad | attaching | volumeee     | 1    | None05:39
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flargenanyone ever encounter a similar issue with floating ips? the L3 switch sends an arp for the floating ip.  on some IPs two replies are sent, one sourced from br-ex, and another the qg- interface that's a member of that bridge and  has the /32 floating ip applied to it for proxy.  on floating ips that do work, only the br-ex interface can be seen replying.  with two replies the switch just has incomplete in it's arp table.05:41
dguitarbiteyes I have05:41
dguitarbitefirst time I tried using Quantum networks I broke the routers and ips very badly05:42
dguitarbiteand thus similar issues05:42
dguitarbiteis your Cinder Volumes services up and running and also this seems to be a problem with the Cinder Config.05:42
kryptoi am using nova-volume05:43
dguitarbiteok05:43
kryptoand i am able to create and delete volumes05:43
dguitarbitesry I have not tried nova volumes.05:44
dguitarbitebut you said you have error deleting the volumes05:44
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kryptoyes..with a particular volume05:45
dguitarbiteok is it under use?05:45
kryptono its under attaching05:45
kryptofrom yesterday05:45
dguitarbitehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/101115005:46
dguitarbitesee you did a mistake in attaching it05:46
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dguitarbiteso it cannot delete it then...05:46
dguitarbitethere should be something05:46
dguitarbitecan you restart the services and try /???05:46
kryptolet me try05:47
kryptoyesterday there was some problem with my iscsi initiator, so all the attachment failed05:48
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flargenbroken in as your internal or external subnets were not properly attached to your provider router?05:49
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kryptono change05:54
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openstack_hehe06:29
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dguitarbiteflargen: broken as in the parameters like service ID , tenant id etc. were wrong06:43
testuserHi   i am new in cloud, could you any one please tell me what are the prerequisites of openstack installation in my lab?? how many system i need for this?06:43
dguitarbitekrypto: try running your problem in OpenStack mailing list...06:44
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dguitarbitetestuser you need atleast 3 machines07:00
dguitarbiteeach having atleast 2 NIC cards07:00
kryptodguitarbite: thanx i willl try that07:01
testuserdguitarbite,  thanks could you please tell me what are the minimum hardware requirement?07:02
testuserfor each system?07:02
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dguitarbitethe compute node needs to be beefy with VT enabled processors for good performance07:05
dguitarbiteothers can be simple machines say 512 MB ram at least a dual core proc. for testing07:05
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dguitarbitefor having a bigger setup you should check it out on www.openstack.org07:06
testuserthanks ?07:08
testuserthanks..................07:08
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dacharymag_: hi08:20
dachary i have this one: http://paste.openstack.org/show/34138/08:20
dacharycould you explain how you got there ?08:21
mag_I suspect maybe the username or password could be wrong somewhere, but where?08:21
mag_I have installed according to this: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html08:21
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mag_just used postgresql, and because of kernel-openswitch incompatibility upgraded to quantal08:22
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dacharymag_: I mean what is the sequence of operations you're running to trigger this problem ?08:22
mag_I was trying to create an instance, which is in error/no state right now.08:22
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dacharymag_: describe it as if you wanted me to reproduce it exactly, step by step08:23
dacharyendpoint=adminURL08:23
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dacharysuggests that the actual URL is missing08:24
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mag_I can share the disk image for the controller, network and compute node:) in the installation I have mistakenly given the connection string of glance to some other entities. I was rectifying it, recreated and db synced the databases.08:25
mag_when I first saw this problem, I have recreated the keystone database. I figured out another instance of wrong connection string later.08:26
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mag_There is one interesting thing, that the demo-net was not owned by the demo tenant. I have made it public before creating the instance.08:27
dacharymag_: this is a description that is too abstract for me to be helpful, I'm sorry :-(08:27
dacharyI sympathize though ;-)08:28
mag_I have recorded my /etc through git, so I can give a precise account of everything regarding /etc08:28
mag_and anyway a bug in configuration should be pinnable using the currentconfiguration only :)08:29
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sgranmag_: what is the region in your nova.conf ?08:32
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dguitarbitemag_: chk your keystone database entrys08:32
dguitarbite*entries08:32
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mag_I don't see anything resembling region in my nova config.08:33
mag_What should have been there?08:33
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sgranwell, the error is that it can't find an endpoint08:35
sgranendpoints are the registry of a service in a region08:35
sgranyou clearly have services defined, and you clearly have endpoints in 'RegionOne'08:35
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sgranso I'm wondering what region nova is requesting an endpoint for08:35
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sgranlook in api-paste.ini for 'auth_region', maybe ?08:36
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mag_I don't see any config setting in my whole /etc containing region, but a commented one for swift: /etc/glance/glance-api.conf:#swift_store_region =08:38
mag_I don't have swift installed.08:38
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sgrangrep for 35357 under /etc/nova08:39
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sgranthat file contains your service credentials to find keystone, authenticate, and do endpoint discovery08:40
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mag_this: /etc/nova/api-paste.ini:auth_port = 3535708:40
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mag_and this: /etc/nova/nova.conf:quantum_admin_auth_url=http://192.168.0.1:35357/v2.008:40
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mag_only these two found08:41
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mag_maybe this is relevant also?: allow_admin_api=true08:42
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sgranso, in api-paste.ini, you'll have auth_host, auth_port, etc08:44
sgrantry seting auth_region = RegionOne in the same place, and restart nova-api08:44
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mag_trying...08:44
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mag_I get the same error whenever I refresh the horizon/nova/instances page08:47
mag_restarting apache08:47
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mag_still the same problem08:48
mag_dachary you said maybe the actual url is missing. where?08:49
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dacharymag_: where does adminURL comes from ? that's what I would look for.08:50
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mag_I presumed that it refers to the "adminurl" column of the output of endpoint list08:51
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mag_As I see the code, ServiceCatalog.url_for works case sensitively though.08:53
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mag_url_for was called like this: url_for(attr=region, filter_value=None, service_type=identity, endpoint_type=adminURL)09:03
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mag_as filter_value is none, it does not care about region09:04
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mag_it turns out that the catalog is empty at this point...09:09
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mag_I get the error logging in with the demo user, and don't get it with the admin user.09:12
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mag_I have created a demo2 user, added to the demo project as member. Logging in with it generates the same error.09:14
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koolhead17mag_: the demo user i hope is associated to a project/tenant09:19
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mag_yes, to the demo one.09:21
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koolhead17mag_: and what role the user has09:23
mag_member09:23
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mag_and gets this upon authentication: {u'token': {u'expires': u'2013-03-21T09:13:44Z', u'id': u'fd015a7cb6ac42dd8c24ad11dacdb79b'}, u'serviceCatalog': {}, u'user': {u'username': u'demo2', u'roles_links': [], u'id': u'51320d3764604ef49a9012f9a7a11144', u'roles': [], u'name': u'demo2'}}09:24
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mag_an empty service catalog09:25
mag_with empty list of roles09:25
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koolhead17mag_: i have tried keystone with mysql backend09:27
koolhead17you should give a try to it if you are doing this to understand keystone09:27
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mag_I don't see how the backend usage changes my understanding other than I am able to figure out things better with postgres.09:29
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koolhead17mag_: ya postgres too09:29
koolhead17i have keystone with DB as backend09:29
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mag_I see that the authentication request does not contain any tenant. It is not surprising there is no roles and service catalog...09:31
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mag_in the token table of keystone I see the tenant data: 9600de29ac9b4ed3af5c608623ad0e1a | 2013-03-21 09:31:49.867482 | {"user": {"email": "demo@domain.com", "enabled": true, "id": "4bbbfc15906c4cf09d170280bdd5b4f6", "name": "demo", "tenantId": null}, "key": "9600de29ac9b4ed3af5c608623ad0e1a", "tenant": {"enabled": true, "id": "9ee106dbffe7469cb053fa3b57068ae5", "name": "demo", "description": null}, "metadata": {"roles": ["55da7f9af84509:35
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mag_the parameters for authentication were: user=demo, tenant_id=None, tenant_name=None, password=None, token=9600de29ac9b4ed3af5c608623ad0e1a)09:35
koolhead17mag_: use pastebin09:35
mag_ok, sorry09:35
koolhead17and tell me what do you get with keystone-tenant list09:35
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koolhead17keystone user-list09:36
koolhead17keystone role-list09:36
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mag_koolhead17: http://paste.openstack.org/show/34142/09:37
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k4n0Can someone help me with a keystone issue10:14
k4n0?10:14
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mag_I cannot solve mine, let's see yours ;)10:15
k4n0I am trying to create 100 users using python threads and keystone client,  But keystone is handling each request synchronously.10:15
k4n0shouldnt keystone be spawning greenthreads for each request?10:15
k4n0And handle them parallely?10:16
k4n0Keystone create 100 users on 100 python threads, Keystone is handling only 1 request at a time. Not creating users parallely.10:17
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mag_certainly eventlet.green.httplib is imported in ec2 token middleware and common/bufferedhttp.py10:19
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k4n0so it is supposed to create users synchronously?10:23
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mag_dunno...10:27
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mag_what were you calling exactly?10:30
mag_because def _create_users in keystone.common.sql.nova does not do multithreading10:31
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kryptohow can i create templates in Folsom using Horizon,i have uploaded ubuntu iso and attached a volume to it and installed os in that volume.How can i make this instance a template10:34
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mag_what about using snapshot to create additional images?10:37
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kryptoso it is that the  way to create new instances in os10:38
kryptois that10:38
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mag_s/images/instances/10:39
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mag_I would try that.10:39
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kryptomag_ i have uploaded iso image and added volume to it then after installing OS i created snapshot of it,but every time i launch an instance using that snapshot its prompting for  installation.10:43
mag_prompting installation within the vm?10:44
kryptoyes10:44
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mag_Okay, I don't get it. I presume you have installed the os to the volume, not the iso. Then you should use the contents of that volume as image, I guess.10:47
mag_I don't know how to do it entirely within nova though.10:49
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gabrielcwhello, anybody here knows about keystone10:51
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gabrielcwIn fact, i'm tinkering with keystone regions and having two endpoints for a service, I would like to choose one of them by its region. For example when running nova boot I want to choose regionX endpoint set in keystone10:54
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mag_gabrielcw: could you yet set up the endpoints? see the region in keystone endpoint-list ?10:57
mag_I am just told to put auth_region = RegionOne to /etc/nova/api-paste.ini maybe it has something to do with your question...10:58
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mag_keystone have a --os-region-name parameter as well10:59
mag_just like quantum,and I presume all other commend line tools10:59
mag_s/commend/command/11:00
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mag_krypto: I cannot check it right now, but I would try to look up the lv name for the volume with lvscan. It have to have something with its id, which you can lookup directly in nova. and I would use /dev/cinder/volumes/<volumename> as the file name for the image created11:02
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kryptomag_ it didnt work the way i wanted,so i am trying to create one with virt manager in img format and export to glance and launch from there11:04
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mag_krypto: seems easier. I just used to launch an iso and an image file with kvm, install, check behaviour with kvm and give the image file to glance.11:07
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ashish_nabiraNice to be here11:18
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mag_quantum net-create hung: http://paste.openstack.org/show/34150/ any ideas why?11:47
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foexleheyho guys .... I#m running in a problem ?! with snapshotting in folsom. It looks like the snapshot works but i see the image with nova image-list but not in glance and not in horizon. Any hints maybe ? :)11:50
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kerouachi all... Easiest way to install essex release of Swift on ubuntu 12.10?13:23
kerouacis it as easy as a ppa: string?13:23
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ChocoboOk, the snow needs to be done for the season.  ugh.13:56
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Chocobogmi: the other day you mentioned you use nova-network in your production environment.  Any idea if multi_host supports having compute nodes on the private network only, behind controller/network nodes?13:57
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gmiChocobo: I'm not sure I understand your question; multi-node means that each compute node also runs nova-network and provides DNAT/SNAT for instances running there; it needs to have a public IP address that will be used to SNAT traffic from instances without floating IP allocated14:00
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Chocobogmi: Is it possible to have some nodes running in multi_host and others in regular mode?  I have two nodes that have public interfaces, but 8 total nodes.   I am trying to find out if multi_host is "all or nothing"14:01
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ChocoboIn other words I would like to run nova-network on the two nodes with public interfaces.14:03
gmiChocobo: I understand now, but I don't know the answer :(14:04
ChocoboOk, thanks gmi14:04
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gmiChocobo:trying it would be the best way to see if it works, and maybe let us know as well14:04
Chocobogmi: Indeed.  I just am not sure I am ready to break down quantum yet.   Trying to weigh the pros and cons :)14:05
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gmiChocobo: send an email to the list and maybe some of the core-devs will respond if it's possible to do what you want...irc can be low traffic at times14:07
ChocoboWill do.  Thanks gmi14:07
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gmiChocobo:welcome and good luck14:09
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stevegjacobsI am having a problem and our main openstack admin guy is unavailable today.14:21
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stevegjacobsWhen I run nova floating-ip-list, I get the error : ERROR: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404)14:23
kryptoi have created an Ubuntu  12.04 instance and attached volume to it,but it is not appearing in that instance,previously i was manually enabling "pci_hotplug"  before adding any virtio devices,is there a way to permanently do this with out doing "modprobe pci_hotplug" each time?14:23
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stevegjacobsThis only happens when logged on as a particular tennant14:24
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gmistevegjacobs:try running "nova --debug floating-ip-list" and see if you get any hint14:25
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stevegjacobswhen logged in as a different tennant, it works14:25
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stevegjacobsAny ideas?14:25
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dguitarbitestevegjacobs - the floating IP's are registered under the tenant which owns the network14:27
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dguitarbitewhich is usually external_network14:27
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dguitarbitethis external_network should be accessible to the users who are registered under that tenant14:28
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stevegjacobsgmi: I ran debug and got the errors14:41
stevegjacobsShould I paste them here, or is there a better place?14:41
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gmistevegjacobs:http://paste.openstack.org/14:43
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magwashi14:46
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magwasquantum hangs for me. what could be the problem? http://paste.openstack.org/show/34150/14:46
stevegjacobsgmi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/34153/14:47
stevegjacobsgmi: I hid ip and auth token14:47
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stevegjacobsgmi: I also ran the same debug command as another tennant and it didn't throw an error14:48
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stevegjacobshistory of this - I created a new flavor with too little memory, launched an instance using the new flavor and assigned an ip address14:50
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stevegjacobsI realised my mistake and deleted both the instance and the flavor, then created a new flavor and and launched the same vm again14:51
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stevegjacobsdiscovered problem when I tried to assign a floating ip14:51
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stevegjacobsgmi: can you make out anything from that error?14:52
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zxvfftime to open stacks14:52
magwasstevegjacobs: I would take a look at keystone endpoint-list and keystone service-list14:53
zxvffvnc was not working because i did not realize i needed an iptables rule to allow it, it now works but won't connect, i still have no networking, and still don't know if my storage device is properly configured or not14:53
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gmistevegjacobs:there are a few possibly related bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1095770 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/110288614:54
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gmistevegjacobs: and you didn't properly clean up your paste...14:56
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zxvffis it possible to run quantum on the same machine as control node?14:57
zxvffis there any compelling reason not to do this?14:57
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stevegjacobsgmi: I saw the second bug already and tried to fix my problem with the recomendation, but that doesn't seem to have worked for me14:58
stevegjacobsI am hoping to find a quick way to fix this14:58
gmistevegjacobs: check if the floating ip of the first instance you deleted has a mapping the nova.floating_ips tables, assuming you're running nova-network and the tables in Folsom are called the same as in Essex14:58
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adamgambleHi guys, if I use devstack master to build an openstack install will that be using the rc's that were just released for all the projects yet?14:59
adamgambleI would assume yes, since it seems to be cloning those projects, but I wanted to make sure14:59
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gmiadamgamble: I think it uses master15:02
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adamgamblewhich is where the milestone proposed tag came from I think correct?15:02
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gmiadamgamble: if you read the README.md file, it says "The devstack master branch generally points to trunk versions of OpenStack components."  and "You can also pick specific OpenStack project releases by setting the appropriate `*_BRANCH` variables in `localrc` (look in `stackrc` for the default set)."15:03
adamgamblegmi: also is devstack a generally decent way to go, or is there a better way if I want it to be solid (obviously i'm going to use devstack while i'm testing the rc's) but once its released and I want to do a production build should I do it manually?15:03
adamgamblegmi: thanks15:03
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stevegjacobsgmi: I just discovered that there are four entries for one of the ip addresses I was using when I did this in the ip table15:04
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ChocoboHuh, quantum does not appear to remove unused network namespaces.15:05
gmiadamgamble: usually, people build their first PoC with devstack, then do a manual multi-node install using Ubuntu/Redhat and repo packages and then move into using Puppet/Chef/Salt/Crowbar etc for automated configuration management; at the end of this process you will have quite a few days/weeks of learning openstack and better prepared to deal with its issues :)15:07
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adamgamblegmi: thanks so much for your help15:07
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stevegjacobsgmi: would it be safe to back up the table, then edit it the way it should be?15:09
ChocoboChef is my next step.... I am not sure if I should be excited or scared.15:09
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stevegjacobsI think the four entries stem from my attempt to delete and re-add the ip address15:11
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gmistevegjacobs: I use http://www.heidisql.com/ to edit mysql directly; I would dump the db and be very carefull what changes I make, but it shouldn't be too difficult to fix the table, although write down exactly what you changed and how it looked before15:13
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red_trelawill nova-network check if an IP is in use before creating a floating IP? i.e., if 10.0.0.0/24 as the pool, but .1 is an uplink and maybe there's some storage at .11 - can nova-network handle that or what's best practice in such a case?15:27
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gmired_trela: I don't think nova-network checks before; you can either add the floating IPs one by one (/32) or add a /24 and then manually update their status in the db15:37
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red_trelagmi: I see, thanks15:37
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BjoernChi i have a question about functionpointer within llvm - i have an call (callInst->getNumArgOperands() = 5) and i'm iterating over all Functions within llvm and check if the types are equal (fi->getType() ==  callInst->getCalledValue()->getType()) but why do i find a function, which has only two argument Operands? (callee->arg_size == 2)15:40
BjoernCdo i have done something wrong with the type comparison?15:41
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BjoernCor could it be, that the found function uses a struct?15:43
gmired_trela: http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=floating+ip+reserve+#query:floating%20ip%20reserve%20+page:1+mid:6h7jpy24wmv5yuim+state:results15:43
gmired_trela:I knew I read about this somewhere :)15:43
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red_trelagmi: ah, perfect, thanks15:49
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kryptocan some one please clarify this,i have imported a centos image of size 600 Mb into glance and created an instance which is on a separate nova-compute host .but on nova/instances/instance-name i see a disk file with 45M size what is this ?and also on that instances' xml config this is the disk mentioned for that disk16:22
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dmikrypto: that's the difference between the base image the the instance's disk16:24
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kryptodmi: can you please elaborate a little.16:24
dmiso the 45M disk you can see is a set of changes between the base disk image that you booted from, and what the disk contains from the instance's point of view16:25
dmirather than storing a full copy of the base image for the new instance, it's more space-effective to create what's effectively an overlay16:25
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kryptodmi: do you know about any documentation explaining this in detail.16:27
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dmikrypto: not offhand, no16:28
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kryptodmi:so is this like instance boot from the .img file and later they use this disk for storage16:29
dmierm16:30
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yellowkingWhat's the difference, on the CLI, between --os-username and --os-tenant-name?16:30
dmikrypto: the instance's disk is a combination of the smaller file and the base .img16:30
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dmiyellowking: a user can belong to multiple tenants (also known as "projects" in Horizon)16:30
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yellowkingah, so what I"m thinking of projects is probably actually tenants?16:31
dmikrypto: so at a low level, when the instance's operating system is about to read a block, OpenStack (well, the emulator) will first check to see if it's present in the diffdisk16:31
dmiyellowking: the words are used interchangeably16:31
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dmikrypto: when the instance writes to disk, it only ever writes to the diffdisk16:31
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dmikrypto: does that help?16:31
sstentis there any recommended way of migrating from auto_assign_floating_ip to manual assignment?16:31
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yellowkingthanks, that cleared it up!16:32
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yellowkingnova --os-tenant-name Decepticon --os-username megatron --os-password starscream list16:32
dmiyellowking: pretty much, yes16:32
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kryptodmi:if it didnt find in diff disk then will it fetch from .img and write it to diff disk16:32
dmikrypto: exactly16:32
dmikrypto:  although it will only write if it is different16:33
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kryptodmi: what protocol do they use,since it is on different machines.16:34
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dmikrypto: actually, every compute node gets a copy of the base images it's booting machines from16:34
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dmiaha!16:35
dmikrypto: see http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/images-and-instances.html perhaps16:35
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stevegjacobsgmi: so many things not working16:37
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stevegjacobsthat were working fine till I made that one stupid mistake with flavors16:38
kryptodmi: can you say  where does compute-host keep copy of that instances .img file ?16:38
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dmikrypto: /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/16:39
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kryptoohhh no i didnt notice that directory .....16:39
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gmistevegjacobs: I'm sorry to hear this, what's broken?16:40
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stevegjacobsgmi: can't launch instances from one tennant16:46
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gmistevegjacobs:any errors?16:47
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magwasquantum hangs on net-create http://paste.openstack.org/show/34150/16:47
stevegjacobsgmi: I seem to be able to from another, but instance networking doesn't seem to work16:47
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magwasAny hints on what could be the cause?16:47
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stevegjacobsgmi: can't access any recently launched servers - ip addresses don't work16:48
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stevegjacobsgmi: no errors from the last few attempts using nova commands, but the dashboard doesn't seem to work for much of anything16:49
magwasone instance of "quantum net-create" was started hours ago, and still "running"16:49
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magwasrabbitmq says all of its queues are empty16:49
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gmistevegjacobs:what did you change in the db? are you running Folsom or Essex? are the nova services running ?16:49
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mynameisdeleteddoes openstack folsome required shared storage. or thats only necessary if you want machine migration?16:50
mynameisdeletedis it ok to have local storage on compute nodes only?16:50
gmimynameisdeleted:yes, it is16:51
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mynameisdeletedjust turn off my shared storage setup and I'll have all the features without migration16:51
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sgranyes, you'll even have non-live migration16:52
magwasmy quantum client is stuck in a recvfrom16:52
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mynameisdeletedlive migration is terrible anyways.. as far as I can tell16:53
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mynameisdeletedwahts command to do it instantly.. without waiting?16:53
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magwasthe fd of the recvfrom is a network socket connected to quantum-server16:54
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yellowkingIn a multi-tenant environment, should every tenant have their own quantum router?16:54
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mynameisdeletedlocal disk setups are generalyl faster than glusterfs?16:56
mynameisdeletedfor openstack?16:56
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stevegjacobsgmi: services are all fine. Essex. I deleted extra copies of one floating ip  from the floating ip table and made a couple changes to the one that was left.16:57
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stevegjacobsgmi: I backed up the table and could restore it16:59
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stevegjacobsbut I think there is something deeper at work here.16:59
mynameisdeletedafter I set live-migration options.. I need to restart all services or just compute?17:00
crazedin cinder, what sets a requests context? seems the context.project_id != project_id from the request which causes a Malformed url error17:01
crazedfrom the client17:01
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crazedit actually seems the request context is not even a valid project_id17:04
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stevegjacobsgmi: I tried something else. I have been trying to launch an image made from a snapshot. These have not been working. I just now tried an ubuntu precice image and it seems ok. But only from one of the tenants17:13
stevegjacobsThe others still show the same errors17:13
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gmistevegjacobs: the changes you made do not seem related to the errors you experience, did your image-from-snapshot work before?17:29
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stevegjacobsgmi: it did at least once, but then I made a lot of changes to various things in Openstack17:42
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stevegjacobsThe only test of the  snapshot working was done in the same flavor - one of the standard ones17:42
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wralei'm trying to setup a new instance type to match aws' m2.4xlarge... when it comes to root and ephemeral disks, what should i choose?  the aws site says '1690GB of instance storage'17:51
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wralenvm.. i guess root is always 10GB, even on AWS.. the rest is ephemeral ... *shrug*.. thanks17:56
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wralewhat is the syntax to make an existing instance type public (folsom)?  i tried 'nova-manage flavor set_key --name=m2.4xlarge --key=is_public --value=is_public'18:15
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gmiwrale: when you create a new flavor, by default it should be public; check "nova help| grep favor" and "nova help flavor-create"18:23
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magwasI have a problem with amqp connection teardown in quantum-server. It takes forever. I have debugged the control flow, but don't see the big picture. Anyone knowing this kombu/amqp stuff?18:23
magwasI know where it does the waiting, but don't know enough to figure out why.18:25
wralenova-manage flavor create --name=m2.4xlarge --memory=70000 --cpu=8  --root_gb=10 --ephemeral_gb=1690 --flavor=6 --swap=0  --rxtx_factor=1.0   <--- causes  .... Must supply valid parameters to create instance_type18:26
wraleInvalid input received: create arguments must be positive integers18:26
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wraleand the default with --is_public is that my instance is private18:27
wralesadly18:27
wralethanks gmi18:27
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wraleor perhaps nova-manage flavor create is deprecated?......18:27
wralefor nova flavor-create18:28
wrale.. trying.. brb18:28
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gmiwrale: use this command "nova flavor-create --ephemeral=1690 --swap=0 --is-public=True  m2.4xlarge 15 70000 10 8"18:31
wralealright so the docs on this are out of date... here is the correct syntax: nova flavor-create m2.4xlarge 6 70000 10 8 --ephemeral 1690 --swap 0 --rxtx-factor 118:31
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wralehttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/starter/content/Instance_Type_Management-d1e2734.html <--- this is wrong18:32
wrale... errr.. it's for diablo18:32
wraleugh18:32
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wralethank you gmi18:33
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yellowkingIn a multi-tenant environment, should every tenant have their own quantum router?18:33
gmiwrale:the novaclient syntax changes so it's better to use the help and go from there -> "nova help flavor-create"18:33
wralegood advice.. thank you18:33
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lou___hi, could somebody tell me where i can read install guide on grizzly?18:34
lou___thx18:34
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magwasactually the problem I have is not quantum-specific. I can reproduce it using nova boot as well.18:39
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* magwas have some serious problem with the message passing under openstack. it hangs18:41
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ChocoboDoes quantum _require_ three NICs?  Can't I just add the public IP to the br-ex?18:58
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mynameisdeletedhttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/lxc.html19:04
mynameisdeletedit says openstack can not control resource use so this is not recommeneded for shared environemnt19:04
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mynameisdeletedI find the oposite true, becuase cgroups provides lots of control19:05
mynameisdeletedfrom disk io throttling(the biggest problem with shared hosting)19:05
mynameisdeletedto cpu limit19:05
mynameisdeletedto disk space quota19:05
mynameisdeletedso maybe I add features to make a 1 vcpu instance (while seeing 8 cpus) limited to 100% of 1 core19:05
mynameisdeletedand limited to 1/8 of the max read write capacity of the drive for io speed19:05
mynameisdeletedmaybe with burst up to full capacity for 1 second at lower priority19:06
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mynameisdeletedmaybe give people an option of no cpu quota but they get billed for overages if they use more than 1 core on a 1 core instance19:06
magwascan anyone help with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/115791619:07
mynameisdeletedand price mer hour of consumed cpu time is much more than price per hour for available19:07
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mynameisdeletedif people onyl pay for consumed ram, disk read, bandwidht, and cpu, then people with almost idle sites can have almost no bill except for use of an ip address19:08
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mynameisdeletedif my company has multiple 100gbps links then I really might not care about internet bandwidht.. I might just care about their use of resources on a shared system and how much more hardware I have to buy to support that number of users19:09
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zxvffanyone know off the top of their head how to troubleshoot this error? "abrtd: Package 'openstack-quantum' isn't signed with proper key"19:11
gmimagwas: I think your environment is misconfigured somehow19:11
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magwasgmi: I think so as well. but how?19:11
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magwasbut even a misconfigured environment should not hang forever. I would expect some errorr message in logs.19:12
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mynameisdeletedsoo.. python on debian-squeeze from source19:14
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mynameisdeletedno instructions anywher ein world on how to do that, but custom setup is not that hard once one understands how openstack works19:15
gmimagwas:are there any messages left in the rabbitmq queues? any amqp related errors in the services' logs (nova-api.log, quantum-*.log, etc)19:15
magwasthe queues are empty19:16
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magwasI see only my debug messages in the log.19:17
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gmimagwas:then restart all quantum services and check their logs for amqp messages, you should see at least a "Connected to AMQP server on rabbit_IP:5672"19:19
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magwasgmi: I do have such a line19:22
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magwasAnd it seems there are some messages where the connection teardown is done well.19:24
magwashow I put a file to pastebin in command line19:24
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jopzhi19:27
zxvffno ideas? re: not signed with proper key error19:27
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jopzgd repo is not working now19:28
jopzhttp://yum.griddynamics.net/yum/diablo19:28
jopzis there any new repo for openstack19:28
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magwasgmi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632106/19:31
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jopzis there any new repo for openstack19:31
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MarkAtwoodmordred: ping19:33
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gmimagwas: are you using postgresql?19:34
magwasgmi: yes19:35
gmimagwas: is anything working? any nova or quantum commands?19:35
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magwassome does. e.g nova image-list does work.19:37
magwasor quantum net-list19:37
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sandeepr i installed keystone rc1 on raring and keystone-all does not do anything, any hints?19:37
magwasgmi: it seems these does not trigger this code path19:38
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gmimagwas:so the quantum server that answers to API calls is fine and it can query the database just fine; it could be a badly configured sql user that cannot write to the quantum db, it's hard to say where the issue is but the info should be somewhere in the logs19:39
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jopzis there any new repo for openstack??19:40
magwasThe quantum user can write to the sql server, and the nova one as well. The problem should be somewhere around message passing, but I don't even know whom they want to send a message.19:41
gmimagwas:are you running Folsom installed from repo?19:41
jopzgriddynamics new repo19:41
jopzold is not working19:41
magwasgmi: yes, folsom from ubuntu cloud repo19:41
jopzhttp://yum.griddynamics.net/yum/diablo19:41
jopzi mean for centos19:41
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zxvfffigured out my problem... cannot install openvswitch plugin for quantum via yum on redhat systems19:42
zxvffis there a way to build it from source?19:42
zxvffi built openvswitch from source and it works now19:43
zxvffer it exists19:43
zxvffbut yum still won't let me install the plugin because of the missing pre-req :(19:43
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gmimagwas:I'm asking because Folsom from ubuntu cloud repo is a stable release, tested and I have it working (with mysql) so there is no bug in it that causes this issue you're experiencing, although I'm not sure if it's been fully tested with postgresql19:44
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lucashi!19:44
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magwasgmi: I don't exactly see how a message passing problem could be related to the database used.19:45
lucasI ran into the "need to set device in promiscuous mode if doing flat networking with only one iface" issue. I agree it fixes the problem, but I can't understand why this is necessary.19:45
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magwasgmi: I am on quantal because some openvswitch <->kernel issues. Could it be a regression of kombu or amqplib?19:47
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sgranlucas: it's an L2 switch, so it will ignore packets not destined for its own mac address by default19:47
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gmimagwas: me neither and I'm not saying it's the root cause, but there could be something related; I would double-check the config files for any rabbit variables misconfigured19:48
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lucassgran: but the packets are destined to its own MAC address according to my wireshark capture19:48
sgranpackets for VMs are?19:49
magwasok, I'll do that. maybe reinstall rabbit or try to downgrade kombu and amqplib. this will be enough to play with tomorrow.19:49
sgranthat seems wrong to me - they should have the dest mac set to the mac address of the VM19:49
lucasyes. http://blop.info/pub/icmps.cap if you have some time. look at the ICMPs19:49
magwasgmi: thx for the help19:49
gmimagwas:I use precise+folsom, but you might be right, there could be many things different between precise and quantal19:49
lucassgran: ^19:49
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gmimagwas: no problem, I hope you get it working tomorrow, time for me to go too19:50
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sgranlucas: who is who in that?19:50
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lucasVM net is 192.168.1/24, .2 initiates ping request to host outside the VM net.19:51
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lucas(host outside is 172.16.79.101)19:51
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sgranand then is NAT'ed to 10.40.1.1 ?19:52
lucasyes19:52
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sgranis this nova-network with multi-host?19:52
lucastcpdump'ing on the bridge device19:52
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lucasmulti-host?19:52
sgranmulti-host option in nova.conf19:52
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lucassgran: apparently no19:53
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sgrandoes the compute node have the address 10.40.1.1 on its interface?19:53
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sgranhmm, strange19:54
sgranit goes:19:54
lucassgran: do you want to connect to the node?19:54
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sgran192.168.1.2 > 172.16.79.101 (pre NAT)19:54
sgran10.40.1.1 > 172.16.79.101 (post NAT)19:54
sgran172.16.79.101 > 192.168.1.2 (pre NAT)19:55
sgran172.16.79.101 > 192.168.1.2 (post NAT)19:55
lucas10.40.1.1 is on the controller19:55
lucas(where the NAT happens)19:55
sandeeprkeystone token-get errors as Authorization Failed: HTTPConnectionPool(host='10.1.0.65', port=5000): Request timed out. (timeout=600.0)19:55
sandeeprfor that matter all of the keystone commands19:55
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sgranoh I see, so it's already been DNAT'ed by the time it gets back to the compute node19:55
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sgranare there NAT rules on the compute node?19:56
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saintxSo, after four weeks of working with OpenStack 8 hours each day, I was never able to successfully make a VM I could ping.  Countless hours poring over docs, digging through bug reports and comment threads, and now I struck out on DevStack as well.  Looking forward to Grizzly, and remaining optimistic.19:56
lucassgran: do you want to connect to the nodes?19:56
sgransure19:56
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lucassgran: any debian host we can use as a relay near france?19:56
DaOmarNHi stackers!!!!19:57
sgranZurich, Greece, Darmstadt ?19:57
sgranoh, no, Zurich is all debian.net19:57
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lucassgran: just give me a name :)19:58
sgranmaster19:58
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sgranit's in .de19:58
DaOmarNI want start an instance with nova api.19:58
DaOmarNlike  nova boot --image precise --flavor m1.tiny --key_name millave --nic net-id=<id_network> vm219:59
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lucassgran: ssh -p 2222 root@localhost on master19:59
DaOmarNbut whit curl request. How can i add the "nic" variable?19:59
lucassgran: ssh -i .ssh/vmnancy ubuntu@192.168.1.2 to get to a VM20:00
lucassgran: the nodes are throw-away nodes, feel free to install what you want20:01
sgranlucas: no, that's fine, I think I see20:01
lucasping 172.16.79.101 on the node works, but breaks if you ip link set br100 promisc off on the controller20:01
sgranyou also have a separate network controller?20:01
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sbadiayes20:02
sbadiahi20:02
lucassgran: (sbadia is working with me)20:02
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lucassgran: (and is better at openstack than I am :) )20:02
sgranok, so what's happening is:20:02
sgrannova-network on the compute node is NATing the traffic outbound, while the network controller is NATing the traffic inbound20:02
sgranthis is ... odd :)20:02
Pierre1good afternoon20:03
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lucassgran: I'm not sure. I think all the NAT is happening on granduc-1-kavlan-420:03
sgranno, not from that packet capture20:03
sgranthe sec20:04
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lucassgran: the compute node is granduc-2-kavlan-4. there are no NAT rules there20:05
lucassgran: (same password)20:06
sgranhttp://paste.debian.net/243198/20:06
sgranright?20:06
lucassgran: the capture is from the controller, not the NAT20:06
lucaserr not the compute20:06
sgranI see20:06
sgranI thought it was on the compute20:07
Pierre1nova-network is on the controleur, no multi-host nova-network20:07
lucassgran: (Pierre1 is also working with me :) )20:07
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lucassgran: that setup works. what I don't understand is why br100 on the controller needs to be in promisc mode. there are a number of forum posts saying it should be, not none that explains.20:10
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sgranIIRC there's a whole host of issues with bridges needing either 'hairpin mode' or promiscuous mode enabled20:12
sgranthey also seem to cause issues with IPv620:12
sgranI'm off for a bit20:13
sgranI'm out of your machines20:13
lucasok20:13
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zxvffquantum basically can't run on centos is what i've decided20:17
zxvffgreat20:17
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mlovellis there anyone in the room that could answer some questions about quantum for me? basically i want to set some networks up with l3 routing but without nat and i don't see a way to do that in the documentation or code.21:05
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crazedis there any way to disable the dd of a cinder volume21:15
crazedupon delete?21:15
crazednot sure what its' called in cinder speak21:15
jgriffithcrazed: which version?  Folsom or Grizzly?21:16
crazedjgriffith: folsom21:16
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jgriffithcrazed: so unfortunately in Folsom no21:17
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jgriffithOther than modifying the code directly21:17
jgriffithI'm assuming you're hitting the hang on snapshot deletes with Precise?21:17
jgriffithOr are you just annoyed with the time it takes?21:18
crazedjust annoyed that it takes time21:18
crazedwhat's the option in grizzly?21:18
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jgriffithcrazed: in grizzly theere's a secure_delete settings flag21:22
jgriffithcrazed: you can disable it altogether, or specify different algorithms to use21:22
jgriffithcrazed: ie zeros, shred etc21:22
jgriffithSo the time is annoying but it's backgrounded21:22
jgriffithcrazed: and really it's a good idea in a cloud environment to do it21:23
jgriffithcrazed: unless you're in a private cloud or just implicitly trust all of the tenants with each others data :)21:23
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mynameisdeletedso... qemu is suported by openstack21:24
mynameisdeleteddoes openstack work on non-intel hosts?21:24
mynameisdeletedif not .. can it use qemu-system-mips or qemu-system-sparc64 to support emulation?21:24
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crazedjgriffith: i fall into the implicity trust / private cloud category :)21:28
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crazedjgriffith: doesn't look like it's implemented in the master branch of grizzly yet, oh well i was going to try and patch the code i'm running21:32
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jgriffithcrazed: sorry.. what was that about it no being Grizzly?21:53
jgriffithcrazed: it is for sure21:53
jgriffithcrazed: the flas is "volume_clear"21:54
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crazedah volume_clear22:11
crazedzxvff: quantum can run on centos, just takes work22:11
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crazedopenvswitch likes newer kernels22:12
crazedand dnsmasq needs to be updated are the two main things22:12
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zxvffcrazed: i got openvswitch installed no problem, i just was not able to install the openvswitch plugin for quantum after the fact22:16
zxvffcouldn't figure out how to get it22:16
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zxvffsince openvswitch did not come from an RPM22:16
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crazedoh you can build the openvswitch rpm22:22
crazedand kernel module22:22
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crazedin fact they did it in fedora, just never pushed it to el622:22
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crazedzxvff: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=91063322:23
crazedbut like i said, you're going to want at least a 3.0 kernel22:23
crazedthere's vlan bugs in the 2.6 stuff that hasn't been backported to centos' kernel22:24
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zxvffah okay thanks :)22:28
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zxvffi appreciate it very much crazed22:28
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crazedzxvff: np, i went through the pain a month or so ago22:28
crazeddefinitely worth it though22:28
crazedthe updated kernel improves instance boot times, at least visually faster22:29
kenperkinshello22:29
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DaOmarNplease anyone know openstack API?22:53
DaOmarNplease help me with this question https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/22477822:53
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