Thursday, 2013-03-21

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erkulesahoi, running openstack with kvm as hyperviser I wonder how to restrict resources i.e using cgroups/blkio00:56
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ThiagoCMCANNOUNCEMENT: Ultimate OpenStack Grizzly Guide - https://gist.github.com/tmartinx/d36536b7b62a48f859c201:17
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dmneranyone ever see an error about unavailable list elements: DHCPSERVER when creating an instance?02:12
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dmnerlooks like the filter openstack creates for libvirt requires the DHCPSERVER argument but doesn't supply it if the port has no dhcp'd networks02:19
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jlegateHi, I'm trying to follow the folsom install docs and am at the step at http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/images-verifying-install.html but keep getting an HTTP error 500 [even though I don't see a 500 anywhere in the logs with Debug/Verbose = True]02:29
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dmnerensure keystone, and glance's api and registry services are up and functioning02:32
jlegateI just noticed that when I run glance with -v -d I get  the HTTP 500 error, with this as the last line: NameError: global name 'os' is not defined02:33
jlegatealso noticed a bunch of comments on that article about this same error02:33
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jlegateFile "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/glance/common/crypt.py", line 45, in urlsafe_encrypt: init_vector = os.urandom(16)02:33
dmnerwhat version of python are you running02:34
jlegatehrm, 2.6.602:34
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jlegatecentos 6.302:34
jlegateshit, I forgot to upgrade it, didn't i02:34
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dmner2.6 still has os.urandom so that shouldn't be the problem02:36
dmner>2.4 should have it02:36
jlegateoh. wow.02:38
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jlegatei just added ", os" to the import line in crypt.py02:38
jlegaterestarted everything02:38
jlegateand it works02:38
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dmnerhow nice, always fun to have to hack the code to get something to work....02:39
jlegateindeed02:39
jlegatei'm surprised this hasn't been patched yet02:40
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dmnerit works fine on ubuntu which is probably the only system the tested it on02:40
dmnerapparently it wasn't tested with no dhcpservers on a port at all with libvirt because it explodes which is nice02:41
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jlegatemmm, explosions02:41
jlegatewell, thanks for being a sounding board ;)02:41
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dmnerno problem (it doesn't explode but it can't create the instance which is just another networking problem I've had)02:42
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jlegateah. sucks.02:45
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dmnerthe more I work (or try to) with provider networks I want to destroy things02:49
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hugokuodoes anyone know where's the full instruction of Keystone ?02:52
hugokuoI mean all configurations description included02:53
dolphmhugokuo: configuration options are all documented in the sample conf https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/keystone.conf.sample02:53
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hugokuodolphm, thanks for your reply . appreciate02:54
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dmneranyone familiar with quantum and provider networks at all?02:59
dmneror just quantum02:59
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dmnerno?03:04
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dmnerAnyone familiar with quantum?03:13
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kenperkinsso how do you add a service to the service catalog (just ran devstack)03:18
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dolphmkenperkins: see $ keystone help service-add03:21
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ThiagoCMCSomeone, please, help! Dashboard (Grizzly G3+RC1) gone... Internal Server Error: apache2 error.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/34196/03:23
ThiagoCMCcd /usr/share/openstack-dashboard ; python manage.py compress ; service apache2 restart03:24
ThiagoCMC^^^ doesn't fix it...03:24
uvirtbotThiagoCMC: Error: "^^" is not a valid command.03:24
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ThiagoCMCops03:24
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dmneris anyone familiar with quantum/provider networks?03:30
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jeffrey4l Could any body give me some information about veth? I want to know why the quantum need it.05:21
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sunusleehi,  i gonna to setup a OpenStack lab in my school. at this moment, i want to guys to recommends so server/hardwares for me, it should support about 50~80 vms(about 1~2G RAM) online at the same time.05:48
sunuslee1:4605:48
sunusleei need to make the budget , so i really need your advice05:48
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sunusleehi,  i gonna to setup a OpenStack lab in my school. at this moment, i want to guys to recommends so server/hardwares for me, it should support about 50~80 vms(about 1~2VCPU, 1~2G RAM) online at the same time.06:14
sunusleei need to make the budget , so i really need your advice06:14
kerouachi sunuslee , have you looked in the documentations?06:15
kerouacthetre are sizing guidelines in there that can be extrapolated from teh minimum requirements06:15
kerouacfor the most part, commodity hardware seems to work well06:16
kerouaci mean, for what it does06:17
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kerouaci'm going to suggest machines with the capacity for large amounts of cores or sockets, nad banks for additional RAM06:18
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kerouacat this time, the resources are bound by host in many cases06:18
kerouachat's my take on it06:18
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sunuslee1kerouac: yeah, i read some of those docs06:24
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sunuslee1kerouac:  what in my mind is i might need three servers, one controller node and two compute node06:25
sunuslee1kerouac:  two compute node might need 48G RAM each06:25
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vodanh86Hi all. I 'm deploying openstack with quantum service on xen xcp server08:32
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vodanh86how to deploy quantum service on compute node08:35
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vodanh86quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent need run on Dom0 or DomU?08:36
rjddom008:38
rjdis a qualified guess08:38
rjdits transparent to the guests ..08:38
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vodanh86thank rjd. how i can install quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent on dom008:39
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vodanh86i using devstack and run ./stack.sh on domu08:40
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vodanh86i can install openstack with nova-network sucessful but when i enable quantum with ENABLED_SERVICES flag08:41
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vodanh86ENABLED_SERVICES+=,quantum,q-svc,q-agt,q-dhcp,-n-net08:41
vodanh86and domu can't boot up08:42
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vodanh86rjd, can i install quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent on dom0 by using devstack08:45
vodanh86?08:45
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melmothanyone knows how to use a volume snapshot ?10:23
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melmothi created a volume snapshot with nova volume-snapshot-create, i see it in nova volume-snapshot-list10:23
melmothbut, i cannot attach this snapshot on a vm (as if it was a regular volume)10:24
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cowntmoohttp://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/running-an-instance.html10:38
cowntmooGot this far with and everything looks good. But when I enter "nova secgroup-list", I get "ERROR: n/a (HTTP 401)". And ideas?10:38
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kryptodmi: Thank you  for your help in understanding .img and diff disk,last day i couldnt say it,because of power failure,sorry!10:53
dmikrypto: that's fine -- I hope it helped10:53
dmikrypto: and thanks for coming back to say that :)10:53
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kryptodmi: it helped alot,thank u so much :)10:54
dmi:)10:54
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cowntmooUsing --debug shows a successful auth request to http://localhost:5000/v2.0/tokens But when http://localhost:8774/v2/TOKEN/os-security-groups is called immediately afterwards it 401s.11:55
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cowntmooHow does nova-api validate against keystone?11:59
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dmihey all -- so I've made a change to quantum's DHCP agent to allow it to use the node names in dnsmasq12:21
dmi[a] is it useful for anyone else?12:21
dmi[b] is it the sort of thing I should consider submitting back to the project?12:22
dmi[c] can I submit as a patch to Folsom, or does it have to be against Grizzly?12:22
zxvff[d]12:22
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zykes-dmi: nodenames as in ?12:22
dmizykes-: sorry, I meant the instance name12:22
dmiso if I spin up a set of instances called qa[0-9].vdev.mycompany.com, it's nice to be able to delegate vdev.mycompany.com to the OpenStack node that runs dnsmasq12:23
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zykes-dmi: use of that is ?12:24
zykes-you mean like dns names dmi ?12:24
dmiyes12:25
dmisorry I thought I'd been clearer12:25
dmiat the moment, instances are given generated names based on their IP12:25
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dmialso, this will only work if the instance has a single IP allocated to it, for obvious reasons12:26
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saju_mGetting error  while running     $ ./bin/nova-manage service list         http://dpaste.com/1030087/12:31
saju_mno such table: services12:31
saju_mHow to fix this /12:31
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verdurindmi: sounds useful to me12:33
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dmiyay )12:33
dmi:)12:33
dmiit does introduce a cross-dependency, so the dhcp agent requires some of the nova modules12:33
dmiand I'm not *entirely* sure I've built it properly12:33
dmibut that's what code review is for, right? :)12:34
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zxvffcinder list results in "ERROR: n/a (HTTP 400)"12:56
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zxvffnothing showing up in any logs... does anyone have any thoughts?12:57
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zxvffunable to retrieve any quota or disk information12:57
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giulivozxvff, did you set/source the correct credentials?13:13
zxvffyeah i did, looks like (via strace) 127.0.0.1 is giving me connection refused13:14
zxvffso the service isn't listening?13:14
zxvffbut nova can auth, for instance13:15
zxvffdon't they use the same webserver/api ?13:15
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giulivoand did you add and configure service/endpoint for cinder correctly in keystone?13:18
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zxvffI believe that I did, but even if I had done so incorrectly wouldn't I still see an http request?13:30
saju_mHi13:30
zxvffhi saju_m13:31
saju_mi did clone of nova git clone https://github.com/openstack/nova.git13:31
saju_mthen python tools/install_venv.py13:31
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saju_mAfter that, getting error  while running     $ ./bin/nova-manage service list         http://dpaste.com/1030087/13:31
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jlegatemade it as far as getting all the bits together, and i can do a nova boot on the controller, but then the compute node says this: 2013-03-21 06:31:44 1461 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 88486e72-6244-4751-a259-7fc835178e3e] Exception: Found no network for bridge br10013:34
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saju_m<zxvff>How you guys setting up openstack development environment ?13:34
zxvffsaju_m: how am I setting one up? I'm not sure yet13:35
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zxvffI have a single ESX server that I'm trying to get openstack running on13:35
saju_m<zxvff> I an trying to do it manually with out any scripts like devstack13:35
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zxvffah okay... i'm able to auth against keystone at port 5000 but it then tries to connect to localhost:8776, which has no service running13:40
zxvffwhat openstack service runs on 8776?13:40
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melmothzxvff, i think it s nova-volume13:41
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zxvffso cinder volume would be the same, right?13:41
cowntmoozxvff: nova-api13:42
zxvffthank you13:42
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zxvffon my end, nova-api is listening on 8773, 8774, and 877513:43
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zxvff8776 is not configured, but cinder is trying to use 8776... really strange. is there a place where i can configure this?13:43
cowntmooMy config's based on http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/index.html13:44
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zxvffthanks13:45
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zxvffI had a config i was trying to deploy on CentOS but I got jammed up with that nad started over on Fedora, following this guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_1813:46
zxvffbut running into issues when following that to the letter13:46
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melmothzxvff, http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/osfolubuntu-cinder.html13:46
melmothosapi_volume_listen_port13:47
zxvffthanks melmoth13:47
cowntmooI'm in the same state with the guide above: got to chapter 8, nothing works.13:47
melmoththen, i guess you need to be sure the port is the same on the keystone endpoint13:47
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zxvffvery good feedback,13:47
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zxvffi'm not sure if it's progress, but i'm now getting a 400 bad request instead of connection refused!13:52
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voliveirajrmorning everyone, Im trying to setup a multi region environment with a single keystone instance, could anyone help me to understand how to do that?14:10
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arcimboldoHi all, does anybody ever tried to have a nova-network with two public interfaces?14:16
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gmia good blog on the Quantum changes that will be introduced in Grizzly: http://www.mirantis.com/blog/a-new-agent-management-approach-in-quantum-for-openstack-grizzly/14:44
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NuxRogmi: excellent, thanks for the link15:10
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gmiNuxRo: welcome; it will probably show up in the next "OpenStack Community Weekly Newsletter" but I always enjoy Mirantis blogs15:13
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branenJust installed devstack and nova is throwing an exception when “sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf iptables-save -c” is run. The error is “ImportError: No module named rootwrap”. Any ideas?15:16
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kutijais there a easy way to open range of ports in some security group?15:20
gmikutija:can you give an example of what you want to do?15:22
kutijaactually my problem is with a Passive FTP15:22
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kutijaand since instances are behind NAT15:22
kutijait's a problem :)15:22
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gmikutija: I guess you can open ports 1023-65000 and lock it down by IP15:24
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kutijayes, I could but that is a lot of typing15:25
kutijaI can write a script15:25
kutijabut is there a CLI support in nova for something like that?15:25
kutijaor to enter a range in Horizon?15:25
gmikutija: why is a lot of typing? how many source IPs you need to be able to access your ftp server?15:25
kutijagmi: unlimited number :)15:26
kutijathis is a web hosting instance15:26
kutijalot of people, lot of IP addresses15:26
gmikutija:what version of openstack are you running?15:26
kutijaFolsom15:27
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gmikutija: look into "nova help secgroup-add-rule", an example would be "nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 1023 65000 0.0.0.0/0"15:29
kenperkinsso I'm trying to decide how to handle when the caller doesn't specify a region and a service has two regions15:29
kenperkinsshould it error?15:29
kutijagmi: will try, thanks15:29
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gmikitija: and of course, open 21 as well15:29
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ttxannegentle: wiki question for you. I saw a number of pages have been renamed from the MoinLooking version to a more Wikipedia_Looking style, but with redirect from the old one to the new one15:31
ttxannegentle: is that simply done using the "Move" action ?15:31
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annegentlettx: huh… I really don't know!15:39
annegentlettx: my pages all kept the old Moin syntax15:39
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ttxannegentle: like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseCycle being redirected to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle15:41
dabokenperkins: Accounts have a default region for RAX. In the service catalog under the 'user' key is 'RAX-AUTH:defaultRegion'15:41
kenperkinsdabo: but if it's not RAX, then what15:42
ttxannegentle: looks like Ryan just "moved" it, so maybe it's all what it takes15:42
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daboI have a config setting for default region15:42
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dabonot sure how that would work for node15:42
ttxRyan_Lane: wiki question for you. I saw a number of pages have been renamed from the MoinLooking version to a more Wikipedia_Looking style, but with redirect from the old one to the new one -- is that simply done using the "Move" action ?15:43
BLZbubbamayday, it looks like i am hitting an undocumented limit: Quota exceeded: code=FixedAddressLimitExceeded15:43
BLZbubbaany idea how to set that?15:43
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BLZbubba0 google matches for "FixedAddressLimitExceeded", wtf is up with that15:44
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annegentleBLZbubba: wow that's unbelieveable15:45
BLZbubbai have exactly 0 instances with more than 1 ip15:46
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annegentleBLZbubba: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html shows quota_floting_ips=10 as default in nova.conf15:47
BLZbubbai looks like the quota_fixed_ips setting is per-instance15:47
annegentleBLZbubba: weird, docs show per tenant15:47
BLZbubbai set it to 1500 and restarted nova-network15:47
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BLZbubbahttp://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1771-1/15:48
BLZbubbawonder if that's related15:48
gmiannegentle: he's talking about fixed Ips, not floating15:48
kenperkinsdabo: I guess what I mean is, in openstack proper (not RAX implementation of keystone) there's no obvious region field like the RAX-AUTH:defaultRegion15:48
jlegategetting:15:48
jlegate2013-03-21 08:45:30 1451 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 9c94f230-34e0-4d98-81dd-d78e53e328ab] Exception: Found no network for bridge br10015:48
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kenperkinsdabo: so what do we do in openstack proper if no region provided15:48
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BLZbubbaannegentle: it defaults to 10, which would be way too low for per tenant15:50
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annegentlegmi: oh yeah15:50
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annegentlegmi: and I can't spell floating anyway15:50
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BLZbubbai set it to 1500 and it seems happy15:50
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gmiannegentle::)15:52
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yellowkingIs there a discussion anywhere of the benefits of using Ubuntu vs. RHEL/CentOS?  Packages vs. custom built?15:54
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cowntmooThe RHEL/CentOS manual is in a right mess. If you've got a choice, try Ubuntu.15:55
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jlegatei second that15:56
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BLZbubbaexcept that ubuntu server is a turd thanks to upstart15:57
BLZbubbaso avoid ubuntu at almost all costs15:58
BLZbubbaand use gentoo!!!!!!15:58
BLZbubbaheh jk15:58
* jlegate hears knifes pulled out15:58
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gmiyellowking: I haven't tried Openstack on Centos/Redhat until today, when I deployed in less than 10 minutes Folsom on centos 6.2 (in a VM) using the Altai distribution (https://altaicloud.atlassian.net/wiki/display/V110/Installation) and I quite like the dashboard and it's features, give it a try15:59
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jlegatei've got it all running, but I can't seem to deploy guests15:59
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jlegate[this is all on centos 6]15:59
dabokenperkins: then I'd raise an exception in whatever form is most appropriate15:59
cowntmooAs long as you've got a few days to wait for an answer.16:01
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cowntmooBetter off trying a different manual / example / etc.16:01
BLZbubbajlegate: what is the symptom?16:01
jlegate2013-03-21 08:45:30 1451 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 9c94f230-34e0-4d98-81dd-d78e53e328ab] Exception: Found no network for bridge br10016:01
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BLZbubbajlegate: network config is complicated sometimes16:07
BLZbubbain my setup i have this in all the nodes' nova.conf: --flat_network_bridge=br13716:07
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BLZbubbaand then of course there is a /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br137 file16:07
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jlegateBLZbubba: that's on the domU, right?16:18
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BLZbubbajlegate: not sure about xen but this is probably a dom0 setting to tell nova compute where to put things16:28
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BLZbubbaxen was end of lifed after el516:29
BLZbubbathough it should probably still be possible to use it16:29
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jlegatewhat is recommended instead?16:31
jlegatei've got a few machines here that I can pave over16:31
jlegateI want something that works16:31
jlegatethe docs for XCP install were pretty shitty16:31
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BLZbubbaqemu-kvm16:35
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BLZbubbais what i use, and it is the default for both el6 and ubuntu16:35
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BLZbubbathough i doubt xen is the problem here, it looks like it is just having trouble finding the bridge to use for vm's16:36
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jlegatehrm16:36
BLZbubbaare you familiar with brctl and how to set up a bridge?  (sorry of that is a condescending question :) )16:37
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jlegateI might just nuke from orbit16:37
jlegateyeah, I am. this shit took a LOT of finagling to get this far16:37
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jlegatenot to mention their docs really do suck.16:37
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jlegatethey gave xen half of an after thought16:37
BLZbubbathat is why i went with ubuntu even though it is a total f***ing piece of ****** ******* sh**16:37
jlegatesome of the xen/centos stuff? is just copy-pasta from ubuntu16:37
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BLZbubbathey have openstack in their default repos16:37
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jlegateincluding wrong service names, and shit16:38
cowntmooAny one tried the Fedora instructions?16:38
jlegateI might give centos6 with qemu-kvm a try16:38
cowntmooannegentle: What's the plan with the documentation? Is it being rewritten? Or ignored until Grizzly?16:38
BLZbubbajlegate: cool hopefully that will eliminate at least some of the pain16:39
annegentlecowntmoo: never ignored. sad face.16:39
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annegentlecowntmoo: reviews in progress: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-manuals,n,z16:39
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jlegatethough I do like the "set admin password" support in xcp16:40
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annegentlecowntmoo: ideally some RHEL people will patch, I know Phil is starting to16:40
annegentlecowntmoo: but it takes a lot of work when the packages aren't done yet16:40
cowntmooWhy not stick the whole lot in a wiki? Development is too dynamic for a document managed through a bug report.16:40
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annegentlecowntmoo: I've bet my career on this approach. Take a look at some of my slideshare stuff. http://slideshare.net/annegentle16:41
annegentlecowntmoo: wikis are not applying enough discipline to content/docs, we need processes16:41
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cowntmooFor a stable product maybe...16:41
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cowntmooInteresting stuff.16:42
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annegentlecowntmoo: I've worked in enterprise docs and it's tough without resources, so I've found the community approach is  more interesting and often more fruitful.16:42
jlegateon the flip side, there are a lot of notes in the comments and then bugs indicated for those comments16:42
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jlegatebut i don't really like having to dig through them all16:43
jlegateto know what has been patched and what hasn't16:43
jlegateand then it calls into question whether the documentation i am currently reading is accurate [in a number of cases it wasn't]16:43
cowntmooComments aren't deleted when changes are made.16:43
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jlegatebut I didn't fully realize it until a bit down the road, when I had alreadyd made changes based on the erroneous information16:43
annegentlejlegate: this is a really tough time of the release to rely on docs though.16:43
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cowntmooThe folsom yum document is very wrong.16:44
jlegatethat shouldn't be. folsom should be folsom should be folsom16:44
annegentlecowntmoo: would love doc bugs against it16:44
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cowntmooI haven't completed an install yet - have no context for constructive commentary.16:44
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cowntmooBut there's ambiguous stuff outstanding - like the whole nova api-paste thing.16:45
annegentlecowntmoo: constructive is always good16:45
gmiannegentle:to get a legal department to sign a CLA and then the operator has to learn to use all the tools mentioned there (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo) in order to fix/update documentation...it's just much easier to edit a wiki16:47
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annegentlegmi: but the best contributors are already CLAed16:47
annegentlegmi: you'll get worse results16:47
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annegentlegmi: for example, the book type tool was opened after the book sprint16:48
annegentlewe had some good input but also people added typos that we had to clean up16:48
annegentle(book type is wiki like with only an email address required)16:48
annegentlewe just didn't get high quality additions16:48
annegentleI'm not trying to be argumentative but point out what the data has showed me after years of study16:49
gmiannegentle: the existing contributors are great, but they have other job attributions and the docs do not keep up with the speed of development; as a result, openstack gets a bad rep with first time users16:49
annegentleand I'm also not saying "Just trust me I know what I'm doing" :)16:49
annegentlegmi: we are working on that with other channels like openstack-101 thuough. Docs can't carry all the on boarding burden16:49
annegentlegmi: believe me I've considered removing install guides16:50
annegentleand have removed the ones that didn't work at all16:50
annegentlesince people don't maintain them16:50
annegentlebut you have to have install guides and you have to have doc bugs to track how far off from reality they are16:50
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cowntmooAn install guide that doesn't result in a successful install is worse than no install  guide.16:51
annegentlecowntmoo: but I can't prevent all the install guides16:51
annegentlecowntmoo: people make them all the time16:51
cowntmooAt docs.openstack.org ?16:51
annegentlecowntmoo: so aren't we better off at least attempting to have install guides?16:51
annegentlecowntmoo: everywhere16:52
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annegentlethis is a pattern I've seen every release so far16:52
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annegentlepeople try to be "first" to write the install guide but they ignore the docs.o.o ones for updates16:52
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annegentleso we have these same conversations every release16:52
annegentlewow I'm really ranting now :)16:53
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cowntmooEverywhere's fine. But one expects docs.openstack.org to be authoritative / canonical. I wouldn't have spent two days on this if I'd be reading "Install OpenStack" from myblog.com16:53
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annegentleI'm just saying, why not try to maintain "official" install docs, we need your help, help us do that. Be part of the solution by reviewing docs and communicating about your docs.16:54
annegentleI mean your errors with the docs16:54
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cowntmooBut I need to complete an install first. Currently I don't know what's wrong other than "it doesn't work".16:55
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cowntmooThe other errors I've hit are in the bug system. They're confusing and may or may not have lead to my current problems but they're there.16:55
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kenperkinsanyone here really understand keystone POST to /v2.0/tokens?16:56
annegentlecowntmoo: yeah I can empathize16:56
annegentlekenperkins: probably dolphm ayoung16:56
kenperkinsty16:56
annegentlecowntmoo: talking to Phil Hopkins last night, he's going to work on the rhel install16:56
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annegentlecowntmoo: and he has a patch started16:56
dmneranyone use provider networks with the metadata server, instances can't get to it16:57
cowntmooThat's great. Where will it live? EPEL test?16:57
annegentlecowntmoo: docs can't be updated until the packages are ready16:57
annegentlecowntmoo: well they can but16:58
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gmiannegentle:what's openstack-101 ?17:00
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kenperkinsdolphm ayoung does this make any sense: https://gist.github.com/kenperkins/521465617:02
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ayoungkenperkins, looking17:02
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dolphmkenperkins: that should be caught and reraised as a 40117:03
ayoungkenperkins, probably the 404 is from looking up something that doesn't exist, versus looking up something that exists but is not valid in that context.17:03
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kenperkinsso a bug?17:13
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kenperkinsbut isn't an invalid tenantId equally non-existant?17:14
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kenperkinsayoung dolphm: I ask because I'm authoring the rackspace & openstack node.js packages and was really confused when writing unit tests for these cases17:15
dolphmkenperkins: yes definitely a bug17:16
heckjkenperkins: yes, but the idea is to not expose it's existance or not-existance from a security perspective, hence bug17:16
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kenperkinsheckj: completely understand and agree :D17:16
kenperkinsdolphm: how can I help here? file my first openstack bug report?17:17
dolphmheckj: +117:17
dolphmkenperkins: yep! https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone17:17
kenperkinsw0017:17
dolphmkenperkins: make sure you can reproduce with debug = False though17:17
kenperkinshuh? debug=false?17:17
dolphmkenperkins: i believe you should be able to, but debug = True will expose all kinds of security details17:18
kenperkinsis folsom debug = true by default?17:18
kenperkinserr devstack17:18
dolphmkenperkins: yes, in keystone.conf17:18
kenperkinslooking 1 sec17:18
dolphmkenperkins: are you on folsom on grizzly?17:18
kenperkinsuh no idea17:18
kenperkinseverett helped set me up17:18
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dolphmgyee: ayoung: heckj: i believe the api changes and spec changes are complete: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25019/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25022/17:19
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kenperkins# debug = False > remove the # right? (under === Logging Options ===)17:19
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dmneris there anyway to get quantum to clean itself up with network namespaces I have 7 + routers when router-list shows only 117:19
heckjkenperkins: yep17:20
heckj(and restart Keystone too, obviously)17:20
dolphmkenperkins: /etc/keystone/keystone.conf on a devstack install17:20
kenperkinshow does one restart keystone on devstack? "status keysone" doesn't work17:20
kenperkinsyea I found it17:20
dolphmkenperkins: unless you wanted folsom specifically you'll be on master branches for all proejcts17:21
dolphmso, grizzly17:21
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kenperkinsgit clone https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack.git -b stable/folsom devstack/17:21
kenperkinsthat's what I ran17:21
dolphmkenperkins: screen -r stack, switch to "key" screen, ctrl+c and re-run the last command to start it17:21
dolphmthat's probably a fancier way to do that ^17:21
kenperkinslol no screen to be resumed17:22
dolphmkenperkins: su - stack if you're not already17:22
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dklibanhttp://10.16.17.14/project/instances/36ef4477-36c3-4c96-afc7-837a141a34e5/17:22
kenperkinsty17:22
dklibanoops17:22
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kenperkinserr cannot open your terminal17:22
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heckjdkliban: focus doesn't follow eyes, not matter how much I try17:22
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kenperkinssorry guys, I've been managing servers etc for a couple years, but new to all the openstack plubming :D17:23
dklibanheckj, lol17:23
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dolphmah, that's right -- so, there's probably a better way to do this, but i make 'stack' a real user and then ssh in as that user, which lets screen work17:23
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dmnerkenperkins: you need access to the tty, ssh is an easier method then trying to set facls on the tty17:23
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cowntmooAssuming your talking about the standard linux screen command, "chmod 777 `tty`" might help.17:24
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kenperkinsassume I have to set a pwd on stack user?17:24
dmnercowntmoo: that is a bad idea as everyone has access to all the ttys then17:24
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cowntmooYeah, I wouldn't do it on live...17:25
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dmnerkenperkins: just add a key and use that, which should work so long as the stack user has a shell17:25
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kenperkinsno home directory for stack17:25
kenperkinshm17:25
kenperkinsrunning into gaps in my linux administration :)17:26
kenperkinsfound it /opt/stack :P17:26
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kenperkinsand im in, thanks17:27
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kenperkinsok, now what do I do, now that I'm in screen (haven't used screen, like tmux?)17:28
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dmnerkenperkins: instead of ^b the prefix is ^a similar to tmux though17:29
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kenperkinsgot it17:29
kenperkinsdone17:29
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kenperkinsnext question, the script that's starting it is using -d debug on the command line, is that overriding the config?17:30
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Ryan_Lanettx: yeah, the move feature17:31
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Ryan_Lanettx: by default it leaves a redirect behind17:31
kenperkinsbingo: setting debug = false changed it to a 40117:31
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kenperkinsstill though, I find that interesting that the code paths would have different results for tenantId/tenantName17:32
kenperkinsshould the unit tests ignore the body of the json response, and focus on the http status code?17:33
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kenperkinsor I'm wrong (didn't realize token's get purged on a restart of keystone), it still 404s17:34
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cowntmoocurl -i http://localhost:5000/v2.0/tokens -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Accept: application/json" -H "User-Agent: python-novaclient" -d '{"auth": {"tenantName": "openstackDemo", "passwordCredentials": {"username": "admin", "password": "XXXXX"}}}'17:35
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cowntmooReturns tokens as you'd expect. Try using a token, though:17:35
cowntmooREQ: curl -i http://localhost:8774/v2/a56b1657acb34056b6b11c532ca5dfaf/os-security-groups -X GET -H "X-Auth-Project-Id: openstackDemo" -H "User-Agent: python-novaclient" -H "Accept: application/json" -H "X-Auth-Token: ac38b6bfbf7f4047afd7fb88cb06c78f"17:35
cowntmoo…and you get: "This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the credentials required."17:36
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cowntmooIt's just given me the bloody token. How can it be unauthorised?17:36
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maxdmlcowntmoo, maybe the tenant is not the good one17:39
cowntmooGood one?17:39
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maxdmlare you sure the tenant openstackDemo can access this route (os-seucrity-groups) ?17:40
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maxdmlcheck if you have other tenants and give them a try, imho17:41
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cowntmooHmmm.. a different error message "ERROR: Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials."17:43
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maxdmlhmm so maybe the tenant was right...17:44
maxdmlI suggest you also check the /var/log/nova/*.log files17:44
maxdmlwhile sending the request17:44
maxdmlto get more information about this "This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested"17:44
maxdmlI've never seen that before17:44
maxdmlbtw17:44
maxdml(with my little O.S experience)17:44
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cowntmooThat's from the logs / --debug17:47
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cowntmoo2013-03-21 17:43:56 25525 WARNING keystone.middleware.auth_token [-] Unexpected response from keystone service: {u'error': {u'message': u'Invalid user / password', u'code': 401, u'title': u'Not Authorized'}}17:47
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cowntmooI'll go through the usernames / passwords again.17:47
cowntmooThanks.17:48
maxdmlyw sorry I couldn't help more17:48
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ChocoboWhat exactly does the network_size paramater in nova.conf mean?18:22
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Chocobosame question with num_networks18:23
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Chocoboit sounds like it should be self-describing...18:24
gmiChocobo: /network/manager.py::network_size:  Number of addresses in each private subnet18:24
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gmiChocobo: "nova-manage network create --multi_host=T --network_size=256 --num_networks=10 --bridge_interface=eth1 --fixed_range_v4=10.0.0.0/16 --label=private" means that it will create 10 private networks to be used by the first 10 tenants/projects and their dhcp ranges will be 10.0.0.0/24, 10.0.1.0/24, 10.0.2.0/24 till 10.0.9.0/2418:27
Chocobogmi I am sorry, I just found that in the example config.   The num_networks is a little more confusing.18:27
Chocobooh, I guess that makes sense.  a default of 1 in my nova.conf seems decent.   I am giving up on quantum.18:28
Chocobothanks gmi18:28
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gmiChocobo: Quantum looks promissing if what is described in the Mirantis blog is going to make it into Grizzly18:29
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Brad_KChocobo: Don't give up on quantum just yet.  nova_network will be going away, so you will need to work with Quantum sooner or later.18:32
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ChocoboBrad_K: the network nodes only have two interface cards, and Horizon can't assign floating IPs.  Sort of a deal breaker eight now.18:33
Chocobo-eight +right18:33
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* Chocobo _tried_ assigning a static ip to the br-ex interface to bypass quantums requirement of 3 NICS. Bad idea.18:34
Brad_Kgmi: i know that Mirantis is working on bringing Hadoop into OpenStack as a standard component.  Was there something else on their blog that you saw relative to Quantum?18:35
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gmiBrad_K: I'm talking about their latest blog: http://www.mirantis.com/blog/a-new-agent-management-approach-in-quantum-for-openstack-grizzly/18:35
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Brad_Kgmi: thanks!18:36
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ChocoboAlright... one more question.  my_ip:  should that be the IP of the internal or external network?18:48
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norris900anyone got any idea what would prevent floating IPs from being disassociated18:50
norris900?18:50
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gmiChocobo:my_ip should be the public of the node18:52
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gminorris900:I'm afraid your question is to vague, can you provide some context?18:53
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norris900gmi thanks but the problem is vague, i cant even find whats going wrong. when i disassociate an ip from a machine that vm stays available on that ip, i can associate it with another vm and it still addresses the previous vm18:56
norris900and no problems are reported in the logs18:56
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norris900oh and im using folsom with nova-network18:58
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gminorris900:you have to see the request in the nova-api.log and then in nova-network.log, and there has to be something usefull there18:59
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norris900gmi i tracked the request , its just standard debug and info in both api and network logs19:06
norris900no problems19:06
norris900even checked the database and its still disassociated there too19:07
norris900just the vm doesnt seem to have noticed19:07
gminorris900:if you have an existing session, it won't be interrupted19:07
norris900i dont, i have screwed that up before and learnt my lesson19:07
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gminorris900: can you still see the iptables rules for that floating ip?19:08
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norris900would i run that on the controlor compute node19:09
gminorris900: are you running in multi-host mode? the floating ip shouldn't be binded to the public interface anymore19:09
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norris900i am running HA19:10
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gminorris900: do you mean you run nova-network on the nova-compute nodes? then you should find out the node where the instance that currently uses the floating ip is, and check the "ip a | grep Flloating"19:11
gminorris900: and the iptables nat rules on that node19:11
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norris900yes sorry i found the problem19:12
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ChocoboOk, it has been a while since I have booted an instance with nova-network.  Do I need to create a fixed network for each tenant?19:20
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gmiChocobo:it's been a while for me too, but I think the next available network will be automatically chosen19:25
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Chocobogmi: hrmm shoot.  Ok, thanks19:31
gmiChocobo:but there is an option to choose a specific network for a specific project, I just cannot remember exactly how19:33
Chocobough.  Any idea if routing_source_ip is required?  I really want to be able to move nova-network around with pacemaker.  I suppose I could always create a VIP that follows it around19:33
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gmiChocobo: I think the command was "nova-manage network modify"19:35
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gmiChocobo: not a big fun of running nova-network on a single node and using pacemaker to provide HA for it; it takes a few good seconds for Pacemaker to kick in and move everything and any traffic to/from your instance will be dropped...not a good customer experience19:37
Chocobogmi: I am not sure I have a lot of options.  I do not have a public interface on each node.19:38
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Chocobohmm I am getting a strange error in nova-network.log when starting an image:  http://ix.io/4PQ19:42
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gmiChocobo: no more networks?19:44
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Chocobogmi: Yeah.  I must have something messed up in my network configuration.  I forgot how much I hated configuring nova-network vlan.19:46
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gmiChocobo:well, you don't love quantum either :)19:47
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Chocobogmi: no, I really don't :)19:47
gmiChocobo:got to go, good luck19:48
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PatrickBichi, is openstack "that" complicated that one would need months to get used to it, or is it rather "easy" to achieve normal tasks? (thinking of using it in a rather small (100-200 vm's) setup)19:54
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jrwrenmonths.19:55
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PatrickBicjrwren, sparetime-months or fulltime-months?19:56
jrwreni'm unsure.19:57
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jrwrenit would depend on your familiarity with the underlying linux things (is my guess)19:57
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PatrickBici am/was using linux for years and have a fair knoweledge of it..19:58
PatrickBicwas thinking of using openstack for/with my master-thesis or more some sort of libvirt-self-made stuff19:58
jrwreni'm not experienced enough to recommend. I only know that it is not easy.19:58
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vkmcHey PatrickBic, is hard to get the big picture, but when you do it becomes a matter of using it :)20:00
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vkmcPatrickBic, Is really cool you want to use it for your thesis, I'm in a similar situation20:01
vkmcPatrickBic, How much time do you have to work in your thesis?20:02
PatrickBic5-6 months fulltime20:03
PatrickBicand 5-6 additional months sparetime20:03
vkmcPatrickBic, Oh, you're more than fine then :)20:03
PatrickBicvkmc, thats the max amount (including writing thesis and stuff)20:03
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PatrickBicand if i quit my job (to have more time xD)20:04
vkmcHaha there is no need to quit your job20:04
PatrickBicso i am estimating 6 months fulltime-time for everything20:04
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vkmcMost contributors here are part time20:04
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PatrickBicvkmc, i won't ;-)20:04
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PatrickBicmost of the people who could help me are @work ;-)20:04
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vkmcHave you deployed a cloud with OpenStack already?20:05
vkmcAwesome, count with our help too20:05
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PatrickBici have done nothing at all with openstack up to now.20:05
PatrickBic(well i still need to get my comp to accept it (and university ofc)).. but at least its an idea ;-)20:05
vkmcI see, well.. it's a great project :)20:06
vkmcMaybe you can give it a try, deploying an small cloud at home, and then see if this fits to  your thesis interests20:06
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kutijahi ;)20:10
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kutijadoes anyone has clue how to fix this gremlin - http://pastebin.com/MyRuC9Um20:12
kutijaINFO: task kvm:17909 blocked for more than 120 seconds.20:12
kutijaand after that my I/O performances degrade rapidly on a compute node20:13
kutijanothing but a full node restart would help :/20:13
kutijaand on the guest side I just try to format a cinder volume, ext420:13
kutijai've updated host kernel to 3.520:14
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kutijaguest kernel is 2.6.32-358.2.1.el6.centos20:15
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dwcramerHi ladquin, I was going to work on some of these https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Builds and wanted to check to see that I'm not stepping on your toes. Had you started any?20:17
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ladquindwcramer, hey! you refer to the pom migration to the new maven version?  I did't start any, but I'll be glad to help20:19
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dwcramerladquin, yes, pom migration.20:21
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dwcramerI just did this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25047/20:21
dwcramerIn case you want to see what's involved. I'll start on compute next.20:22
ladquindwcramer, btw, since I'm adding some jobs to jenkins to have drafts for review, do you think the final target directory will be modified for any build?20:23
dwcramerOops. Compute's already done.20:23
dwcramerNope. The target dirs should look the same.20:23
ladquindwcramer, cool20:23
dwcramerOn to the next one20:24
dwcramerMaybe a little clean up in compute though.20:24
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Chocobois there any way to tell why an booting an image gets an ERROR state?  I have checked the logs and don't see anything.20:25
ladquinok, I'll take a closer look to you patch20:25
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ChocoboHmm when I do20:26
Chocobonova show:  {u'message': u'NoValidHost', u'code': 500, u'created': u'2013-03-21T20:21:25Z'}20:27
dwcramerladquin, ok, let me know if you have questions.20:27
ladquinwill do20:27
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ladquinI'm reviewing a doc patch right now, but then I'll get right to it20:27
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ladquindwcramer, I'm taking openstack-admin-manual-netconn20:48
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gregmarkALL: just launched my first vm instance on Folsom, with 3 node-type setup (controller,net,compute).  I see a 20 sec lag when I try to ping my guest from the controller.21:02
gregmarkafter that time, latency is normal.21:03
gregmarkssh sessions work fine, but after short period of inactivty, the ssh session drops,21:03
gregmarkthen I see the 20 sec lag again?  Any ideas what's going on here?21:04
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kbringardgregmark: that sounds like maybe some kind of arp issue21:09
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ladquindwcramer, oh, sorry, netconn was done already, I'll take the API ones21:15
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erkulesahoi, is there some howto to do some performancetestings on openstack?21:17
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ttxRyan_Lane: awesome, thx21:26
Ryan_Laneyw21:27
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dwcramerladquin, I just did cli-guide21:40
ladquinok!21:40
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gregmarkkbringard: thanks!21:47
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kutijawhat would be a reason for KVM to create very high I/O wait on a empty compute node which has disks in HW raid?21:52
kutijaand it's not a hw failure21:52
kutijaempty node = 5 instances21:52
kbringarddo you use volumes?21:53
kutijayes, I use cinder volumes21:53
kutijabut they are on other node21:53
kbringardbecause iSCSI makes a volume attached to a VM show up as a physical /dev21:53
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kbringardon the compute node21:53
kbringardit can make I/O seem like it's really high21:53
kbringardiostat -xt 321:54
kbringardsee where the IO is actually happening21:54
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kutijajudging by that, disks are almost idle21:54
kutijahm now21:54
kutijanot :)21:54
kutija03/21/2013 10:54:36 PM21:54
kutijaavg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle21:54
kutija           0.72    0.00    0.22   82.42    0.00   16.6321:54
kbringardI'd look at which devices are causing the high load21:55
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kbringardthe first line output in iostat is the average, then it starts doing intervals since the last output21:55
kutijasdh               0.00     0.00    0.00    1.33     0.00   634.67   952.00    17.32 79209.00    0.00 79209.00 750.00 100.0021:55
kutijaI would say it's this one21:55
kbringardI'd wager that's a volume21:55
dwcramerladquin: btw., I'd also done object storage.21:55
kbringardand not a local disk21:55
ladquinyeah, saw it21:56
kutijayes it is a volume21:56
kbringardso there you go21:56
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kbringardso the host itself isn't blocking on I/O21:56
kbringardbut stuff like uptime will misreport total system stats21:56
kbringardbut that volume is assuredly blocking on I/O21:56
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kutijalooking at the cinder node, I/O wait is 0.121:57
kbringardhowever, since it's an iSCSI export it shouldn't be affecting anything else21:57
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kutijawell it's making a lot of problems21:58
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kutijaso what would cause that problem?21:59
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kbringardwhat problem?21:59
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kbringardthe volume is pegged, if it's affecting something other than the one VM which is using the volume, then that's a different problem22:00
kutijavolume with a high I/O wait creating high CPU load on a host22:00
kutijait is22:00
kbringardis it *actually* high CPU?22:00
kbringardor are you just looking at top/uptime load?22:00
kutijajudging by the node responsiveness it is not22:00
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kutijait's a fake one22:00
kbringardon linux I/O is taken into account when calculating system load22:01
kutijabut why would volume go nuts suddenly? this happens every time I want to mkfs it22:01
dwcramerladquin: So these are all done on master: openstack-admin-manual-compute, openstack-admin-manual-netconn, openstack-admin-manual-object, openstack-cli-guide22:01
kbringardsince the iSCSI export is seen as a physical device, linux *thinks* the I/O wait it's seeing is part of its own load22:01
kbringardso uptime will misrepresent22:01
kbringardso I'd say it's a false alarm22:01
kbringardon the hypervisor22:02
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kbringardyou'd have to look at the VM, the network, the cinder host, etc to see what's happening to cause the volume to have crazy I/O22:02
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kbringardI need to call it a day, have a good one peoples22:03
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ladquindwcramer, I almost got api-site done, but the api-programming pom is a bit different.. how should I treat the md file to build ok?22:04
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kutijaMar 20 17:25:50 compute1 kernel: [191670.212597] sd 16:0:0:1: [sdi] Synchronizing SCSI cache22:06
kutijaMar 20 17:26:32 compute1 kernel: [191711.855974]  connection10:0: detected conn error (1020)22:06
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kutijaso what would do this :)22:08
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dwcramerladquin: api-site may be a bit different too. In api-programming there's probably noting to do to the .md stuff. Let me check.22:11
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dwcramerladquin: Where is api-programming?22:12
ladquindwcramer, in api-site repo22:13
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dwcramerladquin: Ok, api-site/openstack-api-programming/pom.xml looks normal...don't see anything about .md files. Or do I have the wrong thing?22:18
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dwcramerladquin: api-ref.xml is different. Let's not touch it for now.22:19
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ladquindwcramer, yes, that's ok, but the only other file there is a .md... the build log looks ok, but the target webhelp folder is empty22:20
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ladquinagreed on the api-ref.xml, but tested it here and works fine22:20
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dwcramerladquin: Ok, nothing (should have) changed in that code between 1.5.x and 1.7.2, so that's good to know it works.22:26
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dwcramerladquin: Have to run now. If you have questions about any others that you're doing, send me an email. I'll be back online later.22:27
ladquindwcramer, no worries, go!22:27
ladquinand thanks22:28
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dmnerIf I create a snapshot it should appear on the images/snapshot page in horizon correct?22:35
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dmnersimilarly does nova image-create put the images in glance?22:36
dmnernova image-list lists the snapshot + image (from nova image-create) but glance image-list does not list the image (nor does horizon list the snapshot)22:37
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dmnerglance show lists the image but it doesn't showup with image-list or in horizon which is wierd22:43
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esteveIs there a debug option or env variable for quantum CLI?22:51
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esteveso that I can see the incoming/outgoing requests and responses?22:51
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estevenevermind figured it out (-v)22:52
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dmnerso when I take a snapshot it doesn't show up in horizon until I make the snapshot public, also does anyone know how to make an image (not a snapshot) from an instance in folsom?23:05
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dmnernobody?23:16
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dmneranyone create an image from an instance in folsom using nova image-create or create a snapshot?23:24
dmnerfor some reason they aren't showing up in horizon23:25
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dmneranyone create an image from an instance in folsom using nova image-create or create a snapshot?23:41
dmnerfor some reason they aren't showing up in horizon23:41
dmnerunless they are public23:41
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niglythere we go23:51
niglyso anyone able to help with a horizon/nova/glance problem I am having23:51
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