Friday, 2013-07-19

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MrRacoonmkay, we just started using openstack at my work and my boss wants nova authing done through LDAP but wnats keystone's identity services to be handled by sql00:35
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MrRacoonis that possible?00:36
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MrRacoonWe have LDAP up and running with plenty of users, and he doesnt want OS with root access to these servers, just wants to use them to auth these users for our cloud00:37
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lindenleIm having trouble with devstack where should I file the issue/ask questions00:57
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DredTiger /msg NickServ identify 7fu$9b9[1a&j01:09
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MrRacoonlindenle: this should be the place01:33
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MrRacoonoh you left01:34
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blkperldoes horizon not force re-login when the cookie has expiered? Instead it just throws that I don't have access (grizzly)03:11
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kryptodoes openstack use Proxy ARP to handle public to private  NAT ing08:16
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davidthe1olutionhi08:59
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P3n74hmm hmmh09:04
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stm_dear denizens, I have read, but perhaps not fully understood, the keystone documentation regarding setup, but no matter what I do, I keep getting a "[111] connection refused". `keystone catalog` tells me I have a configuration error, but the logs are of no help. Any ideas?09:07
ninkotechstm_: generic idea: put your logs and error messages on some pastebin.com like site09:09
stm_will do. Just a sec09:09
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ninkotechstm_: be carefull to not reveal sensitive info09:09
stm_ninkotech: yup, will try not to :)09:10
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stm_here's when I run `keystone catalog`: http://pastebin.com/tFrWR3Kb09:15
stm_and here's the keystone.log: http://pastebin.com/TshefDHK09:16
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stm_hmm, just looked in the syslog, which says: kernel: [70546.073272] init: keystone respawning too fast, stopped09:18
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kraljevDear friends, I have one question09:26
kraljevI have admin service token09:27
kraljevlike this one: 0bfc0e415376c41f4e1e09:27
kraljevcurl -H 'X-Auth-Token: 0bfc0e415376c41f4e1e' http://localhost:35357/v2.0/users09:27
kraljevQUESTION: how can I get user's password?09:27
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kraljevaha, I guess you have to make a specific request for an user to get it09:30
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svparijshi there, I need some advice I'm trying to install Openstack on a Debian Squeeze production like environment with apt-get install openstack-proxy-node openstack-compute-node openstack-toaster10:01
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svparijsshould that be enough to make my server run openstack?10:02
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FecnMorning Folks10:07
FecnHas anyone hit a problem with the cached glance images on compute nodes getting corrupted?10:07
FecnI seem to have one or two cached images which didn't get fetched from glance properly10:07
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Fecnthen every time I try to spin up a vm based on those images, it fails to spawn correctly10:08
FecnCurrently I have /var/lib/nova/images/_base on a shared filesystem10:08
Fecnis it possible that if multiple compute nodes try to pull the image at the same time, they're all overwriting the same file (and hence corrupting it) ?10:08
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kraljevopenstack is a joke10:14
FecnWhat's the punchline?10:15
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FecnOpenstack walks into a bar and asks for a beer.... The bar tender says 'I'm sorry, we don't serve 3-year olds' ..... OK - it's a crap joke, but at least it's a joke10:23
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kraljevIt's ok as a project10:45
kraljevbut there is no community at all10:45
kraljevand the development process is very inflexible10:46
kraljevcode is inconsistent, but I guess that is OK for such a large project10:46
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fabricatorhi, I cannot get security-groups got 404 Not Found.   curl -i http://172.31.10.236:9696/v2.0/security-groups.json -X GET -H "X-Auth-Token: ..... -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Accept: application/json" -H "User-Agent: python-neutronclient"10:49
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kraljevusing keystone HTTP api, how can I modify a user, aka. PUT or PATCH11:02
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svparijsanyone here using debian with openstack?11:05
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fabricatorhmm looks like the neutron database is empty. how can I initialize it?11:23
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kraljevWHY doesn't keystone HTTP api disclose "password": key in the hash11:26
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tsniderok -- DQOTD (dumb question of the day :) )   Was Quantum renamed Neutron or are they 2 seperate projects.  Links on the OpenStack wiki seem to imply that they are the same project.13:42
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ogelbukhyes, it was13:43
FecnNeutron is the new name for Quantum13:43
FecnThere was some trademark issue with Quantum13:43
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tsnideroh -- that's good -- I thought I had missed something big --- Is there a page that talks about the renaming?13:44
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Fecnhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/neutron-renaming13:46
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tsniderFecn: thx13:55
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Birk__Hey guys. When a instance is deleted, openstack sends one "compute.instance.delete.start" and one "compute.instance.delete.end" message to rabbit or it can send two or more of each type?14:12
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mattymowhenry, are you here?14:36
whenryyes14:36
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mattymowhenry, can you check my private message?14:41
whenrysorry on openstack-meeting14:41
whenryone sec14:41
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wadearnoldAre there any reference physical architecture's for an HA install with 25 - 80 compute nodes or roughly two cabinets. Specifically looking for recommendations around block storage.15:04
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wadearnoldcurrently running ceph on the compute nodes for block storage15:05
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ioggstreamhi @all15:16
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Fecnwadearnold: Well... we've been talking to a couple of consultancies about a larger openstack deployment... and they seem to be recommending running Ceph on the compute nodes for block storage15:19
FecnThat was canonical's line anyway15:19
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wadearnoldFecn it makes the most sense to me rather than having another network and nodes just for storage. Because of an object storage or block storage doesn't need to I/O that we use to when static assets were in the block storage15:24
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wadearnoldI'm about to approve a server order and have the cold feet feeling!15:25
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Apsuwadearnold: My company (Rackspace) has some reference architectures around it. http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/private/architecture/ for instance.15:25
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wadearnoldThanks apsu!15:28
Apsuwadearnold: Sure thing.15:29
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fm255005how does Nova populate the nova-manage service-list?15:32
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fm255005I have both nova-network and nova-cells listed but I am not using them15:32
fm255005are they always listed15:32
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FecnThey are not listed for me when I try it15:33
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FecnI get consoleauth, scheduler, conductor, cert and a bunch of compute15:34
fm255005hmm15:36
fm255005where is that defined i wonder15:36
fm255005if its listed, is nova expecting them to work or are they enabled?15:36
Apsufm255005: nova service-list > nova-manage service-list15:37
fm255005do you have nova network installed15:37
FecnI have :-) next to all the working bits... and XXX next to a compute node which is currently down15:37
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FecnI am using quantum rather than nova-network15:37
Fecnthat doesn't show up in the service list though15:37
ApsuIt won't. It's not a nova service.15:38
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Apsuquantum agent-list shows quantum agents, but the quantum-server service isn't an agent, or nova service.15:38
fm255005yea i am also using quantum but mine is whoing up15:38
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fm255005i wonder if that is causing the issue that im having15:39
Apsufm255005: What is your issue?15:39
fm255005i cant get quantum to work, i have quantum openvswitch15:39
Apsufm255005: Elaborate more. "doesn't work" isn't that helpful15:39
fm255005and i am getting a local address but its not routing to the outside network15:39
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SpadsWhen I'm using the nova client, how do I do floating-ip-create in a specific tenant?  I've tried specifying with --os-tenant but it seems like everything falls back to $OS_TENANT_NAME unless I'm thoroughly baffled.  At any rate when i client.floating_ips.list() in python code that logs in with that tenant I end up with []15:40
ApsuShow your work. Describe your setup, how did you deploy, are you using l3-agent, what's the physical infra, are you using provider networks/bridges or GRE tunnels, does your subnet have a default gateway, etc15:41
b1tbktApsu: I was able to confirm that the multiple network:gateway entries within the public netblock are correct. Each router gets its own 'interface' on the subnet. Seems a little inefficient but I can see why it's useful.15:41
fm255005http://pastebin.com/L6PtSFfA15:41
Fecnfm255005: Have you created a router ?15:41
fm255005using dhcp-agent, l3-agent15:41
fm255005yes15:41
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fm255005everything looks correct as far as the network topology15:41
fm255005followed the documentation15:41
Apsub1tbkt: On the external side. But you had 1 router, 1 external network, yet two router:gateway ports on the external side.15:41
Apsub1tbkt: That's what doesn't make sense :P15:42
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mkollarohow are the snapshots expected to work? because I made changes to a vm (without a disk), created a snapshot, booted another vm from the snapshot and the changes aren't there15:42
mkollaroall in horizon15:42
b1tbktWhen I added another router. I wound up with a third router:gateway port in the external network.15:42
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mkollaroI'm wondering if this is a bug, this is the latest grizzly15:42
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fm255005External Gateway and internal interface are showing Down as the status15:44
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Fecnfm255005: When I've seen 'failed scheduling network' messages like those before, it was unrelated to network... (in my case it was some code trying to spin up multiple VMs, but not waiting long enough for each one... so it tried to spawn it again... which resulted in the quantum 'failed to scheudle netowkr' messages... (because that network was already scheduled elsewhere)15:45
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fm255005that makes sense if nova network is trying to run15:46
fm255005ill look in to it15:46
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Apsub1tbkt: That I would expect, yes. But not the 2-on-1 :P15:47
FecnAnyway... gotta dash now... I'm off to the London Openstack meetup15:47
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SpadsHow do I specify a tenant when running nova floating-ip-create?  It always seems to land in my 'default' tenant, but I have roles in a bunch of other ones that need IPs15:49
SpadsThe only reason I can see where they land is by building up client objects in a python REPL and doing client.floating_ips.list()15:49
SpadsI haven't been able to get nova floating-ips-list to show me even which tenant it thinks it's looking at15:50
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ioggstreamis there a  guide for configuring quantum+packstack via horizon?16:04
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ioggstreamthe virtual machines can't see the network...16:05
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lyncosHi, I'm having some trouble understanding permissions with keystone... I'm using the admin user.. (probably wrongly configured) to try a livemigrate and it seems to get refused because of policies...17:59
lyncosPolicy doesn't allow compute_extension:admin_actions:migrateLive to be performed17:59
lyncosI think I did break the admin user .. anyone is willing to help ?17:59
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Apsulyncos: Check your policy.json18:03
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lyncosApsu I didn't change it ... it's the default one... It seems I'm not using the right credentials18:03
lyncos    "compute_extension:admin_actions:migrateLive": "rule:admin_api",18:04
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Apsulyncos: Just verifying :)18:05
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lyncosHow can I make sure I'm logging it with the right credentials18:05
lyncosI think it has something to do with the tenant I'm specifying18:05
lyncosexport OS_TENANT_NAME="something"18:05
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lyncosi'm also getting:   keystone user-role-list18:09
lyncosWARNING: Bypassing authentication using a token & endpoint (authentication credentials are being ignored).18:09
lyncos'Client' object has no attribute 'auth_tenant_id'18:09
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caoquick question, does anybody got a few links/pointers/comments on running the instance storage on a distributed filesystem on top of ssds? particularly a decent comparison between ceph/glusterfs would be interesting18:32
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ChocoboWith quantum when creating a subnet do you need to supply nameservers or does it inject one for you?18:59
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BMDanChocobo: It only knows the information you supply it.  Therefore, if you don't supply a nameserver, how would it know what to hand out?19:01
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BMDanThat said, the solution I've used is to hardcode resolv.conf in the images, so there's me speaking from inside a glass house.  ;)19:01
phschwartzChocobo: My experience it is best to set the name servers in the subnet that way if you make changes to it, it will propagate to running ports.19:04
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ChocoboBMDan: I was just thinking of how nova-network used to function.   Thanks BMDan and phschwartz19:20
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fifieldtthingee, ping19:57
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thingeefifieldt: pong20:10
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BMDanI have Googled a fair bit on this (most of the morning) and haven't gotten any traction.  In Linux, I can use 70-persistent-net (Ubuntu) or HWADDR (RHEL/CentOS) to work around the issue.  But in Windows, whenever I resize or (non-live-) migrate an instance, the network adapters swap their order, meaning that I have to go through and rename and reconfigure them.  Is there are workaround for this in either OpenStack or Windows that anyone is aware of?20:12
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BMDanThis is on three different clouds, one Folsom, two Grizzly.  Both are configured using VLANs atop openvswitch, if that's at all relevant.20:12
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fifieldthi thingee, wanna skype/gchat?20:13
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thingeefifieldt: sure I just tried g+...I'll try again20:14
phschwartzBMDan: are you using cloudbase's cloud-init for windows?20:14
fifieldtodd thingee, I'm there ... maybe there's a need to encircle each other or something20:15
thingeefifieldt: k20:16
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BMDanphschwartz: No, sir.20:17
phschwartzLook into it, it will solve the issue via automation inside the vm20:17
BMDanphschwartz: I was under the perhaps-mistaken impression that that only affects initial boot, not subsequent boots.20:17
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phschwartzcloud-init on windows and on linux will run on every boot20:17
BMDanSpecifically, I don't swap NICs when rebooting the VM from inside the VM, but when doing a migrate or resize.20:17
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Guest74380Hello! I see from the docs the recommended NIC is 1Gb. Are there any issues with running VMs this way or does OpenStack's local caching of images handle all that well enough. In other words, should I consider options to increase network throughput between compute and storage nodes?21:22
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lindenleHi all, I managed to get devstack to work on a ubuntu 12.04 host (also think I found a bug)21:28
lindenleHow do I see the vas that are available through venter?21:28
lindenles/vas/vms21:29
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lindenleDoes openstack poll vcenter for what already exists?21:30
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dtx00ff_chd1b01c-5173.stratus.phx.ebay.com22:10
dtx00ff_oops wrong channel22:11
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RicardoSSPguys, just a question: quantum and neutron are the same thing?22:14
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blkperlRicardoSSP: yes, it was renamed22:15
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RicardoSSPblkperl, tks :)22:16
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RicardoSSPI've seen that the quantum support for vmware is just using Nicira. Using the standard or DVS from vmware (by developing a plugin for this) is something out of range, or I can try doing this?22:17
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openstackstatusNOTICE: Projects with a dependency on xattr are failing tests due to unresolved xattr dependencies. Fix should be in shortly22:23
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tmshmmm... has anyone deployed quantum with the puppet-openstack modules? I'm having a very simple (and annoying) issue figuring out how to reference quantum23:18
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openstackstatusNOTICE: Project affected by the xattr cffi dependency issues should be able to run tests and have them pass. xattr has been fixed and the new version is on our mirror.23:47
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