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angelfromthesky | sorry for bothering you. we are about to launch bidroop. have heard of it? Here are some beta-testing invitation codes: lbHt6a78 wjFBxlHY aKdZ8x29 any feedback would be welcome. | 00:38 |
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angelfromthesky | Hi, we are about to launch bidroop. have heard of it? Here are some beta-testing invitation codes: lbHt6a78 wjFBxlHY PIgCDF89 use them quick before someone use them! | 01:38 |
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chilli-salad | anyone in here happen to know how to connect to multiple VPNs simultaneously? I can currently connect to two: 1) using OpenVPN client config file 2) using NetworkManager. I'm hoping there's a way to use multiple OpenVPN clients. | 02:07 |
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chilli-salad | What I'm using now only gives me 2 vpn connections. | 02:08 |
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chilli-salad | And I'd like to have these connections from just one machine on one OS. | 02:10 |
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koolhead17 | ttx, around | 06:44 |
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ttx | koolhead17: yes | 06:58 |
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sigurding | the runScript option in the API is there any documentation to it? | 08:30 |
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Tantor | Hello. I am installing a private cloud with MAAS. Now I have a problem on one node, on the screen keeps coming this error: bmc-config:1625 map pfn expected mapping type uncached-minus for 8f669000-8f66a000, got write back. And after a while the node will just shutdown. On the webinterface the node does show up as 'ready'. I use ubuntu 12.04 | 08:32 |
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AGiardini | Tantor: Did you look at this? http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Insight-Control-for-Linux/CentOS-6-2-hp-health-fail/td-p/5431885#.UfYoqnUW1SM | 08:35 |
Tantor | No, I'll take a look at it right away | 08:35 |
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bereal | is that so, that swift keystone middleware does not pass non-authenticated OPTIONS through | 10:10 |
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JoeHazzers | it's not possible to have a machine with a single public IP on a network not under my control and route out traffic from VMs via quantum, is it? | 10:23 |
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fabricator | hi there | 10:39 |
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fabricator | I cannot get information about security groups maybe neutron didn't create them? http://paste.openstack.org/show/42428/ | 10:40 |
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fabricator | nobody here? | 11:21 |
JoeHazzers | seems that way | 11:21 |
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fabricator | JoeHazzers: may I ask about security groups? | 11:22 |
JoeHazzers | i'm really not the person to ask about these things. | 11:23 |
JoeHazzers | but don't ask to ask questions :) | 11:23 |
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fabricator | :-) | 11:23 |
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fabricator | at the neutron server start I see "ERROR neutron.common.legacy ] Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver" and I do not have security groups at all | 11:24 |
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yocum | morning | 11:54 |
yocum | oops. wrong channel. whatever. still... morning. :-) | 11:54 |
Dieterbe | ;) | 11:56 |
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fabricator | nova can see security groups, but neutron don't "Extension security-group not supported by any of loaded plugins" in the neutron server's log | 11:58 |
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cipherpunk | anyone here using puppet to setup openstack? | 12:13 |
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dneary | cipherpunk, I do, through Packstack | 12:15 |
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cipherpunk | dneary: what is packstack? | 12:17 |
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cipherpunk | dneary: ah, just taking a look at it, thanks | 12:17 |
cipherpunk | dneary: does it work with grizzly? | 12:18 |
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cipherpunk | dneary: oh, that one works only with rpm-based dists, yuck! | 12:29 |
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dneary | cipherpunk, If you're using other distributions, you have other options. RDO is specifically to give people an easy option on RHEL/CentOS/SL - which they didn't have before | 12:30 |
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cipherpunk | dneary: i am using ubuntu or debian | 12:31 |
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dneary | cipherpunk, devstack may suit your needs - doesn't use Puppet though, AFAIK | 12:31 |
cipherpunk | dneary: i want to setup a distributed production openstack in the long run though, i am not sure devstack is suited for that? | 12:32 |
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Qlawy | hi o/ Does openstack support snapshotting vms, with memory? Sth like vmware "snapshot vms memory"? | 12:32 |
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fabricator | someone can give me advise about neutron and security groups? | 12:34 |
dneary | cipherpunk, I'm sorry, I am really not the best person to advise you on .deb-related distributions | 12:34 |
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dneary | fabricator, What's the issue? | 12:34 |
fabricator | dneary: http://paste.openstack.org | 12:34 |
dneary | I don't know about advice, but if you have issues I'll try & help | 12:34 |
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cipherpunk | dneary: thank you very much though! | 12:36 |
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fabricator | dneary: sorry. -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/42428/ | 12:37 |
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dneary | fabricator, Sorry, I'm no help. Are the Neutron services running? Are all the API endpoints listening? Can you do other actions? (glance image-list say, or keystone role-list)? | 12:41 |
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fabricator | dneary: everything is working properly BUT security groups doesn't/ it looks like the ovs plugin do not create security groups and/or iptables rules. | 12:44 |
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dneary | fabricator, So you can SSH into instances? | 12:45 |
dneary | fabricator, If so, does iptables -L look correct? | 12:45 |
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fabricator | dneary: I cannot start instance without security group :-( . I see this in the output of the neutron server " Extension security-group not supported by any of loaded plugins" and " Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver" | 12:47 |
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fabricator | dneary: I think this is the problem | 12:47 |
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kraljev | hey, may I ask this simple question: | 12:53 |
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kraljev | What is the purpose of roles? | 12:53 |
Qlawy | policy.json checks if your role is enough to perform action | 12:55 |
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fabricator | howto recreate neutron's database? | 13:03 |
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kraljev | You have to recreate the whole atom | 13:06 |
kraljev | or at least the core | 13:06 |
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Qlawy | So, anyone can tell me sth about those snapshots? Does openstsack support snapshotting vms with memory? | 13:22 |
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teknoprep | hi all | 13:29 |
teknoprep | i was wondering about Compute Nodes and HDD Space on each Compute Node... we are using the Rackspace ISO for Private Cloud Computing | 13:29 |
teknoprep | how would i get those HDD's as part of the cluster of HDD's using Cinder / Swift | 13:29 |
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Qlawy | teknoprep: if I understand you well you have to have /var/lib/nova shared via nfs or other network filesystem, or iSCSI ... anyway, shared /var/lib/nova then all images and instances will be on remote disks | 13:46 |
sdague | jgriffith: when you awake - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1205344 would be good to start to understand | 13:46 |
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iartarisi | Hi! Where are nova-manage security groups stored? I see a lot of them when I do nova-manage secgroup-list, but only the default one if I go to look in the nova database/ security_groups table. Is there some kind of cache in between? | 14:22 |
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iartarisi | ah, nvm, they're in the quantum db | 14:24 |
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JoeHazzers | Scenario: all-in-one setup, with quantum. machine has 1 NIC and 1 IP on a network i'm not in control of. Is it possible to perform NAT networking? If so, how? | 15:14 |
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jskains | Hello. I am sorry to bother people, but I need help on adding a second cinder node. I followed all the directions, but cinder-manage host list doesn't show the new host. | 16:56 |
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jskains | Hello? | 16:56 |
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jskains | Lots of people, but no talking? :) | 16:57 |
cipherpunk | hey everybody, i am getting this message when trying start an instance, how do i debug/fix this? "Could not find Service or Region in Service Catalog." | 16:59 |
jskains | I think everyone just sits in this room for prosperity. :) | 17:00 |
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jeffa | cipherpunk what does a quantum net-list show? | 17:11 |
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monst | anyone able to get Solaris 11 useable as a guest on KVM openstack>? | 17:22 |
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cipherpunk | jeffa: this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0fbfe8de6aca67965dcf | 17:43 |
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jeffa | ok cipherpunk now how about a keystone catalog command (must be admin for this one) | 17:49 |
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teknoprep | /j #redhat | 17:54 |
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teknoprep | anyone here use CentOS OpenStack install ? | 17:59 |
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teknoprep | i was wondering about some info about how HDD's are shared as one large pool | 17:59 |
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jeffa | cipherpunk — if everything looks good and matches up you might have a simple problem of you won't get a service catalog without also providing a | 18:05 |
jeffa | tenant, so that behavior is by design as well. Try --os_tenant_name or | 18:05 |
jeffa | --os_tenant_id if using the client | 18:05 |
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prometheanfire | can there be a read only admin account within keystone? | 18:39 |
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swaT30 | is there any full documentation for the Python API libraries? | 19:13 |
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swaT30 | I'm trying to list all instances for all tenants (equivalent to nova list --all-tenants) but can't see how to do it | 19:16 |
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fm255005 | anyone know where the logs are for novncproxy? | 19:17 |
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teknoprep | ERROR: You must provide a username via either --os-username or env[OS_USERNAME] | 19:47 |
teknoprep | i keep getting this and its driving me nuts | 19:47 |
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jeffa | teknoprep - if you set those as environmental variables through an rc include file you won't have to set them manually like this | 20:11 |
jeffa | stack@openstack1:~$ env |grep NAME | 20:11 |
jeffa | OS_USERNAME=demo | 20:11 |
jeffa | OS_TENANT_NAME=demo | 20:11 |
jeffa | OS_PASSWORD=mypass | 20:12 |
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teknoprep | ty | 20:14 |
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jeffa | np | 20:15 |
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arborism | I have Horizon installed on a VM, pointing to Keystone on a different VM. Interacting w/ Keystone + Nova via CLI is fairly fast, but Horizon is taking 60+ seconds to load /instances for a user w/ only 8 instances. Memcached is installed on the Horizon VM (and configured in local_settings.py). Is my next best bet using django-debug-toolbar to understand what's going on, or is they're an easier approac | 20:27 |
arborism | h? | 20:27 |
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arborism | there* | 20:29 |
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MACscr | can horizon manage cinder? I am not really seeing any Storage management options | 21:07 |
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MACscr | Heck, i dont even get what the point is of Volume Manager when it only allows you to just create names. It doesnt appear to allow you to do anything with them | 21:08 |
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sputnik13_ | I had cirros VMs that were working fine... after restarting the hosts, the VMs no longer have IP settings, although dashboard shows IPs allocated for them | 21:17 |
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sputnik13_ | is restart of the host not supported? | 21:17 |
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aimatt | Hey guys, I Installed devstack on and ec2 instance and spawned an ubuntu server instance with it, but the console is just all white and the browser just spins | 21:43 |
aimatt | any ideas? | 21:43 |
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sputnik13_ | this channel is like the opposite of lively at this time of day :) | 21:46 |
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zxvff | no it's not | 21:46 |
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MACscr | sputnik13_: um, lol, when is it actually lively? 98% of activity is just being asking questions with no one answering | 22:05 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: yeah, the silence part is what I'm talking about :) | 22:14 |
MACscr | i dont think ive ever seen a slower channel with so many users | 22:14 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: that's the part that gets me, how are there so many people and so little traffic | 22:15 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: or perhaps the higher number is a good indicator most people just troll? | 22:15 |
MACscr | well obviously a lot of people are just idling. I do that as well. Im logged into about 20 channels right now | 22:15 |
MACscr | nah, they arent trolling | 22:15 |
devoid | why does keystoneclient 2012.1 require a d2to1 package from 2013? | 22:16 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: true, idle != troll, I take that back | 22:16 |
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MACscr | though the lack of an active irc community does concern me a bit when considering rolling out openstack | 22:17 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: same here... I'm trying to push openstack as the virtual infrastructure at my company, and an active irc community would be so useful in figuring things out :( | 22:18 |
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MACscr | sputnik13_: do you have one already? or is this completely new? | 22:18 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: I have one up and running, but there's quirks I don't understand | 22:19 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: and the system is so complex I don't know where to look when I have issues | 22:19 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: whats it based on? kvm, xen, etc? | 22:20 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: canonistack with juju/maas | 22:21 |
MACscr | ah, that does seem messy | 22:21 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: it took a little fudging but it comes up pretty easily, only thing is I don't know enough of the details yet so I can't properly troubleshoot anything | 22:21 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: well, it seemed better than trudging through multiple volumes of manuals at the time :) | 22:22 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: I still like the idea of expanding compute nodes and storage nodes with just juju add-node | 22:22 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: check out fuel for openstack | 22:23 |
MACscr | i can help ya with a task like that | 22:23 |
MACscr | though its centos only right now as far as what is provisions. Ubuntu is coming back in the next release | 22:23 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: is this an off site solution or onsite? | 22:25 |
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tekalpha | hia ll | 22:25 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: is it a commercial product? | 22:25 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: onsite | 22:25 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: free, they they offer commercial support for both the tool and the openstack | 22:26 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: do you work for mirantis? :) | 22:26 |
tekalpha | would someone here point me to someone where we can get professional services to installing openstack with our pre-reqs | 22:26 |
MACscr | nope | 22:26 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: heheh, had to ask | 22:26 |
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MACscr | i just discovered it last week. | 22:26 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: have you considered chef or puppet? | 22:26 |
tekalpha | MACscr, what did you find last week | 22:26 |
MACscr | tekalpha: http://fuel.mirantis.com/ | 22:27 |
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MACscr | sputnik13_: i think this tool actually uses puppet | 22:28 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: interesting... do you know whether this handles pxe boot and provisioning of bare metal nodes like maas does? | 22:28 |
MACscr | yes it does | 22:28 |
devoid | is there a reason for this madness: prettytable>=0.6,<0.8 | 22:28 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: nice... I'll have to give this a deeper look, thanks for the pointer | 22:29 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: np. Im considering it and ovirt right now | 22:29 |
devoid | in novaclient, but that version doesn't work with keystoneclient | 22:29 |
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devoid | in the essex-3 line? | 22:29 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: why ovirt | 22:30 |
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MACscr | decent active irc and pretty extensive management portal | 22:31 |
MACscr | ive been in this channel a week and i dont think i have seen any questions answered. lol | 22:32 |
MACscr | the mailing list is probably more active | 22:32 |
MACscr | i havent checked yet though | 22:32 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: more active yes, but 1 is more than 0 | 22:33 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: I'm probably just bitter I haven't received any answers to my questions ;) | 22:33 |
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MACscr | ive spoken to a few of the ovrit devs too, they are active during business hours on their irc | 22:34 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: have you looked at pistoncloud? | 22:34 |
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MACscr | not really, though i have read about them. Last review i raid said fuel was better | 22:35 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: or even smartos | 22:35 |
MACscr | smartos isnt made for shared storage | 22:35 |
sputnik13_ | i c | 22:35 |
MACscr | which is what i need/want | 22:35 |
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devoid | is there a way to turn of load_entry_point checks for python-keystoneclient? | 22:35 |
MACscr | they believe in having application based HA versus infrastructure based ha | 22:35 |
devoid | it wants a package version that doesn't work with nova | 22:36 |
devoid | s/nova/novaclient/ | 22:36 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: infrastructure-wise I like openstack especially with the networking integrations | 22:37 |
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sputnik13_ | we need SDN functionality with both L2 and L3 | 22:37 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: but ZFS is just so damn cool :) | 22:38 |
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MACscr | ah, my networking needs a pretty simple. Mine "cloud" is mainly for public use | 22:39 |
tekalpha | MACscr, thanks.. thats pretty amazing stuff | 22:39 |
MACscr | and i do love zfs. I just put together my first zfs san | 22:39 |
tekalpha | i love zfs too | 22:40 |
tekalpha | i have over 100 clients using ZFS for SAN's | 22:40 |
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MACscr | though im not sure how i am going to use it with openstack et though. So many different ways to do storage with openstack | 22:40 |
tekalpha | honestly i would do an OpenSolaris / FreeBSD box using HA / CARP... | 22:41 |
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tekalpha | 2 boxes with dual heads that monitor each other | 22:41 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: openstack supports nexenta | 22:41 |
MACscr | nexenta is the devil | 22:41 |
tekalpha | each head could fail over if a head was to die | 22:41 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: porque | 22:42 |
tekalpha | also that would give you the ability to replicate data using openstack to each of the ZFS boxes that have built in HA | 22:42 |
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MACscr | tekalpha: what about object storage where it handles the replication itself? | 22:42 |
tekalpha | thats why you have 2 boxes | 22:43 |
tekalpha | each box has 2 heads | 22:43 |
tekalpha | the boxes each are HA to themselves and re-import the ZFS datastore in the case of a Head outage | 22:43 |
tekalpha | but you have 2 of these boxes... that use object storage replication | 22:44 |
sputnik13_ | for storage I'd love to play with a 2 or 3 node ceph cluster with infiniband for the storage network... have to do some convincing to get the hardware :( | 22:44 |
tekalpha | each are seperate from eachother | 22:44 |
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MACscr | tekalpha: right, but using object storage might make things much easier to manage | 22:44 |
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tekalpha | you are using object storage | 22:45 |
tekalpha | and also ZFS HA | 22:45 |
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MACscr | why both? | 22:45 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: why do you say nexenta is the devil? | 22:45 |
tekalpha | how would you do replication of ZFS blocks instantaneously | 22:45 |
tekalpha | you don't | 22:46 |
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MACscr | sputnik13_: because of their licensing changes. I have no interest in ever doing any business with them | 22:46 |
tekalpha | you do replication of snapshots in time | 22:46 |
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MACscr | tekalpha: swift object storage does the replication itself to multiple storage nodes | 22:46 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: i c, it's a business thing, not a technology thing | 22:46 |
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tekalpha | exactly | 22:47 |
cipherpunk | MACscr: why is nexenta the devil? | 22:47 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: they are the business that developes the tech | 22:47 |
MACscr | er, develops | 22:47 |
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tekalpha | MACscr, but if you want ALL your storage to always be up ... script failover of nodes inside ZFS to do a ZFS import of a ZFS pool if a node fails | 22:47 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: true, but from my perspective if we can get away from the full rack SANs we deploy for everything, it's still a step up :) | 22:48 |
tekalpha | MACscr, that isn't replication thats just HA | 22:48 |
sputnik13_ | lesser of evils | 22:48 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: how would they help you achieve that? They are still sans | 22:48 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: I can get down to a couple rack units for smaller scale deployments... the san arrays we use are like hp xp sans | 22:49 |
MACscr | well you can do different sans. What you are talking about is just a nexenta based san | 22:50 |
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MACscr | san does not have to be proprietery | 22:50 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: true, I'm likely letting my geek love for zfs blind me a bit, it also doesn't help our IT dept won't deploy or support anything they can't buy commercial support for... | 22:51 |
sputnik13_ | ceph looks really interesting, but I can't seem to find any good benchmarks | 22:51 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: i wouldnt call ceph completely production ready imho either | 22:51 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: why is that | 22:52 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: I haven't dug deep in to ceph yet, so I'm a bit ignorant | 22:52 |
MACscr | sputnik13_: i dont think the devs even say its fully production ready | 22:52 |
MACscr | not saying it isnt being used that way yet | 22:52 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: I thought dreamhost uses it in production | 22:53 |
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MACscr | DH is not a great example of a company with stable environments =P | 22:53 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: although I wouldn't say dreamhost has the best track record of availability, so maybe that's not the best example | 22:53 |
sputnik13_ | :) | 22:53 |
sputnik13_ | MACscr: yeah I was just thinking that after saying what I did | 22:53 |
MACscr | they are an example of a company that sells something that doesnt exist and does it cheaply =P | 22:53 |
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sputnik13_ | MACscr: cheap is something they do extremely well, but yeah I've had some bad experiences with their service | 22:54 |
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sputnik13_ | you get what you pay for :) | 22:54 |
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MACscr | yep. I just find it dishonest when a company says they are selling an unlimited service, but doesnt actually allow you to use unlimited. I find it shady and unethical | 22:55 |
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clayb | Inktank supports Ceph | 23:01 |
clayb | You can find Ceph in the Bloomberg OpenStack Chef scripts at http://github.com/bloomberg/chef-bcpc | 23:03 |
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EVega | if I do glance index i get File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/glance/registry/__init__.py", line 117, in get_registry_client | 23:06 |
EVega | return client.RegistryClient(_CLIENT_HOST, _CLIENT_PORT, | 23:06 |
EVega | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'RegistryClient' | 23:06 |
EVega | anyone have any ideas? | 23:06 |
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MACscr | so i am not sure who asked about Piston, but i just gave them a call and while their solution is impressive, their pricing is insane | 23:11 |
MACscr | im pretty much wary of any software solution that doesnt advertise prices on their site =P | 23:11 |
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tms_ | Here's a random one: upon rebooting instances will ping but not respond to SSH connections until I open their 'Console' on horizon | 23:40 |
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tms_ | anyone seen anything like that ever? | 23:40 |
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MACscr | odd. ive more seen the opposite (though this was with vm's in general, not openstack specific) | 23:42 |
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tms_ | Yeah, I just deployed grizzly and now I'm poking around looking for flaws :) | 23:46 |
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