Monday, 2013-07-29

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angelfromtheskysorry for bothering you. we are about to launch bidroop. have heard of it? Here are some beta-testing invitation codes: lbHt6a78 wjFBxlHY aKdZ8x29  any feedback would be welcome.00:38
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angelfromtheskyHi, we are about to launch bidroop. have heard of it? Here are some beta-testing invitation codes: lbHt6a78 wjFBxlHY PIgCDF89 use them quick before someone use them!01:38
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chilli-saladanyone in here happen to know how to connect to multiple VPNs simultaneously? I can currently connect to two: 1)  using OpenVPN client config file 2) using NetworkManager. I'm hoping there's a way to use multiple OpenVPN clients.02:07
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chilli-saladWhat I'm using now only gives me 2 vpn connections.02:08
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chilli-saladAnd I'd like to have these connections from just one machine on one OS.02:10
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koolhead17ttx, around06:44
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ttxkoolhead17: yes06:58
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sigurdingthe runScript option in the API is there any documentation to it?08:30
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TantorHello. I am installing a private cloud with MAAS. Now I have a problem on one node, on the screen keeps coming this error: bmc-config:1625 map pfn expected mapping type uncached-minus for 8f669000-8f66a000, got write back. And after a while the node will just shutdown. On the webinterface the node does show up as 'ready'. I use ubuntu 12.0408:32
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AGiardiniTantor: Did you look at this? http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Insight-Control-for-Linux/CentOS-6-2-hp-health-fail/td-p/5431885#.UfYoqnUW1SM08:35
TantorNo, I'll take a look at it right away08:35
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berealis that so, that swift keystone middleware does not pass non-authenticated OPTIONS through10:10
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JoeHazzersit's not possible to have a machine with a single public IP on a network not under my control and route out traffic from VMs via quantum, is it?10:23
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fabricatorhi there10:39
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fabricatorI cannot get information about security groups maybe neutron didn't create them? http://paste.openstack.org/show/42428/10:40
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fabricatornobody here?11:21
JoeHazzersseems that way11:21
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fabricatorJoeHazzers: may I ask about security groups?11:22
JoeHazzersi'm really not the person to ask about these things.11:23
JoeHazzersbut don't ask to ask questions :)11:23
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fabricator:-)11:23
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fabricatorat the neutron server start I see "ERROR neutron.common.legacy ] Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver" and I do not have security groups at all11:24
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yocummorning11:54
yocumoops.  wrong channel.  whatever.  still... morning.  :-)11:54
Dieterbe;)11:56
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fabricatornova can see security groups, but neutron don't  "Extension security-group not supported by any of loaded plugins" in the neutron server's log11:58
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cipherpunkanyone here using puppet to setup openstack?12:13
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dnearycipherpunk, I do, through Packstack12:15
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cipherpunkdneary: what is packstack?12:17
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cipherpunkdneary: ah, just taking a look at it, thanks12:17
cipherpunkdneary: does it work with grizzly?12:18
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cipherpunkdneary: oh, that one works only with rpm-based dists, yuck!12:29
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dnearycipherpunk, If you're using other distributions, you have other options. RDO is specifically to give people an easy option on RHEL/CentOS/SL - which they didn't have before12:30
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cipherpunkdneary: i am using ubuntu or debian12:31
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dnearycipherpunk, devstack may suit your needs - doesn't use Puppet though, AFAIK12:31
cipherpunkdneary: i want to setup a distributed production openstack in the long run though, i am not sure devstack is suited for that?12:32
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Qlawyhi o/ Does openstack support snapshotting vms, with memory? Sth like vmware "snapshot vms memory"?12:32
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fabricatorsomeone can give me advise about neutron and security groups?12:34
dnearycipherpunk, I'm sorry, I am really not the best person to advise you on .deb-related distributions12:34
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dnearyfabricator, What's the issue?12:34
fabricatordneary:  http://paste.openstack.org12:34
dnearyI don't know about advice, but if you have issues I'll try & help12:34
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cipherpunkdneary: thank you very much though!12:36
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fabricatordneary: sorry. ->  http://paste.openstack.org/show/42428/12:37
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dnearyfabricator, Sorry, I'm no help. Are the Neutron services running? Are all the API endpoints listening? Can you do other actions? (glance image-list say, or keystone role-list)?12:41
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fabricatordneary: everything is working properly BUT security groups doesn't/ it looks like the ovs plugin do not create security groups and/or iptables rules.12:44
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dnearyfabricator, So you can SSH into instances?12:45
dnearyfabricator, If so, does iptables -L look correct?12:45
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fabricatordneary: I cannot start instance without security group :-( . I see this in the output of the neutron server " Extension security-group not supported by any of loaded plugins" and " Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver"12:47
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fabricatordneary: I think this is the problem12:47
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kraljevhey, may I ask this simple question:12:53
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kraljevWhat is the purpose of roles?12:53
Qlawypolicy.json checks if your role is enough to perform action12:55
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fabricatorhowto recreate neutron's database?13:03
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kraljevYou have to recreate the whole atom13:06
kraljevor at least the core13:06
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QlawySo, anyone can tell me sth about those snapshots? Does openstsack support snapshotting vms with memory?13:22
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teknoprephi all13:29
teknoprepi was wondering about Compute Nodes and HDD Space on each Compute Node... we are using the Rackspace ISO for Private Cloud Computing13:29
teknoprephow would i get those HDD's as part of the cluster of HDD's using Cinder / Swift13:29
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Qlawyteknoprep: if I understand you well you have to have /var/lib/nova shared via nfs or other network filesystem, or iSCSI ... anyway, shared /var/lib/nova then all images and instances will be on remote disks13:46
sdaguejgriffith: when you awake - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1205344 would be good to start to understand13:46
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iartarisiHi! Where are nova-manage security groups stored? I see a lot of them when I do nova-manage secgroup-list, but only the default one if I go to look in the nova database/ security_groups table. Is there some kind of cache in between?14:22
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iartarisiah, nvm, they're in the quantum db14:24
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JoeHazzersScenario: all-in-one setup, with quantum. machine has 1 NIC and 1 IP on a network i'm not in control of. Is it possible to perform NAT networking? If so, how?15:14
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jskainsHello. I am sorry to bother people, but I need help on adding a second cinder node. I followed all the directions, but cinder-manage host list doesn't show the new host.16:56
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jskainsHello?16:56
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jskainsLots of people, but no talking? :)16:57
cipherpunkhey everybody, i am getting this message when trying start an instance, how do i debug/fix this? "Could not find Service or Region in Service Catalog."16:59
jskainsI think everyone just sits in this room for prosperity. :)17:00
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jeffacipherpunk what does a quantum net-list show?17:11
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monstanyone able to get Solaris 11 useable as a guest on KVM openstack>?17:22
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cipherpunkjeffa: this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0fbfe8de6aca67965dcf17:43
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jeffaok cipherpunk now how about a keystone catalog command (must be admin for this one)17:49
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teknoprep /j #redhat17:54
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teknoprepanyone here use CentOS OpenStack install ?17:59
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teknoprepi was wondering about some info about how HDD's are shared as one large pool17:59
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jeffacipherpunk — if everything looks good and matches up you might have a simple problem of you won't get a service catalog without also providing a18:05
jeffatenant, so that behavior is by design as well. Try --os_tenant_name or18:05
jeffa--os_tenant_id if using the client18:05
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prometheanfirecan there be a read only admin account within keystone?18:39
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swaT30is there any full documentation for the Python API libraries?19:13
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swaT30I'm trying to list all instances for all tenants (equivalent to nova list --all-tenants) but can't see how to do it19:16
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fm255005anyone know where the logs are for novncproxy?19:17
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teknoprepERROR: You must provide a username via either --os-username or env[OS_USERNAME]19:47
teknoprepi keep getting this and its driving me nuts19:47
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jeffateknoprep - if you set those as environmental variables through an rc include file you won't have to set them manually like this20:11
jeffastack@openstack1:~$ env |grep NAME20:11
jeffaOS_USERNAME=demo20:11
jeffaOS_TENANT_NAME=demo20:11
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arborismI have Horizon installed on a VM, pointing to Keystone on a different VM. Interacting w/ Keystone + Nova via CLI is fairly fast, but Horizon is taking 60+ seconds to load /instances for a user w/ only 8 instances. Memcached is installed on the Horizon VM (and configured in local_settings.py). Is my next best bet using django-debug-toolbar to understand what's going on, or is they're an easier approac20:27
arborismh?20:27
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MACscrcan horizon manage cinder? I am not really seeing any Storage management options21:07
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MACscrHeck, i dont even get what the point is of Volume Manager when it only allows you to just create names. It doesnt appear to allow you to do anything with them21:08
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sputnik13_I had cirros VMs that were working fine...  after restarting the hosts, the VMs no longer have IP settings, although dashboard shows IPs allocated for them21:17
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sputnik13_is restart of the host not supported?21:17
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aimattHey guys, I Installed devstack on and ec2 instance and spawned an ubuntu server instance with it, but the console is just all white and the browser just spins21:43
aimattany ideas?21:43
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sputnik13_this channel is like the opposite of lively at this time of day :)21:46
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zxvffno it's not21:46
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MACscrsputnik13_: um, lol, when is it actually lively? 98% of activity is just being asking questions with no one answering22:05
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sputnik13_MACscr: yeah, the silence part is what I'm talking about :)22:14
MACscri dont think ive ever seen a slower channel with so many users22:14
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sputnik13_MACscr: that's the part that gets me, how are there so many people and so little traffic22:15
sputnik13_MACscr: or perhaps the higher number is a good indicator most people just troll?22:15
MACscrwell obviously a lot of people are just idling. I do that as well. Im logged into about 20 channels right now22:15
MACscrnah, they arent trolling22:15
devoidwhy does keystoneclient 2012.1 require a d2to1 package from 2013?22:16
sputnik13_MACscr: true, idle != troll, I take that back22:16
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MACscrthough the lack of an active irc community does concern me a bit when considering rolling out openstack22:17
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sputnik13_MACscr: same here...  I'm trying to push openstack as the virtual infrastructure at my company, and an active irc community would be so useful in figuring things out :(22:18
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MACscrsputnik13_: do you have one already? or is this completely new?22:18
sputnik13_MACscr: I have one up and running, but there's quirks I don't understand22:19
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sputnik13_MACscr: and the system is so complex I don't know where to look when I have issues22:19
MACscrsputnik13_: whats it based on? kvm, xen, etc?22:20
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sputnik13_MACscr: canonistack with juju/maas22:21
MACscrah, that does seem messy22:21
sputnik13_MACscr: it took a little fudging but it comes up pretty easily, only thing is I don't know enough of the details yet so I can't properly troubleshoot anything22:21
sputnik13_MACscr: well, it seemed better than trudging through multiple volumes of manuals at the time :)22:22
sputnik13_MACscr: I still like the idea of expanding compute nodes and storage nodes with just juju add-node22:22
MACscrsputnik13_: check out fuel for openstack22:23
MACscri can help ya with a task like that22:23
MACscrthough its centos only right now as far as what is provisions. Ubuntu is coming back in the next release22:23
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sputnik13_MACscr: is this an off site solution or onsite?22:25
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tekalphahia ll22:25
sputnik13_MACscr: is it a commercial product?22:25
MACscrsputnik13_: onsite22:25
MACscrsputnik13_: free, they they offer commercial support for both the tool and the openstack22:26
sputnik13_MACscr: do you work for mirantis? :)22:26
tekalphawould someone here point me to someone where we can get professional services to installing openstack with our pre-reqs22:26
MACscrnope22:26
sputnik13_MACscr: heheh, had to ask22:26
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MACscri just discovered it last week.22:26
sputnik13_MACscr: have you considered chef or puppet?22:26
tekalphaMACscr, what did you find last week22:26
MACscrtekalpha: http://fuel.mirantis.com/22:27
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MACscrsputnik13_: i think this tool actually uses puppet22:28
sputnik13_MACscr: interesting...  do you know whether this handles pxe boot and provisioning of bare metal nodes like maas does?22:28
MACscryes it does22:28
devoidis there a reason for this madness: prettytable>=0.6,<0.822:28
sputnik13_MACscr: nice...  I'll have to give this a deeper look, thanks for the pointer22:29
MACscrsputnik13_: np. Im considering it and ovirt right now22:29
devoidin novaclient, but that version doesn't work with keystoneclient22:29
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devoidin the essex-3 line?22:29
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sputnik13_MACscr: why ovirt22:30
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MACscrdecent active irc and pretty extensive management portal22:31
MACscrive been in this channel a week and i dont think i have seen any questions answered. lol22:32
MACscrthe mailing list is probably more active22:32
MACscri havent checked yet though22:32
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sputnik13_MACscr: more active yes, but 1 is more than 022:33
sputnik13_MACscr: I'm probably just bitter I haven't received any answers to my questions ;)22:33
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MACscrive spoken to a few of the ovrit devs too, they are active during business hours on their irc22:34
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sputnik13_MACscr: have you looked at pistoncloud?22:34
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MACscrnot really, though i have read about them. Last review i raid said fuel was better22:35
sputnik13_MACscr: or even smartos22:35
MACscrsmartos isnt made for shared storage22:35
sputnik13_i c22:35
MACscrwhich is what i need/want22:35
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devoidis there a way to turn of load_entry_point checks for python-keystoneclient?22:35
MACscrthey believe in having application based HA versus infrastructure based ha22:35
devoidit wants a package version that doesn't work with nova22:36
devoids/nova/novaclient/22:36
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sputnik13_MACscr: infrastructure-wise I like openstack especially with the networking integrations22:37
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sputnik13_we need SDN functionality with both L2 and L322:37
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sputnik13_MACscr: but ZFS is just so damn cool :)22:38
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MACscrah, my networking needs a pretty simple. Mine "cloud" is mainly for public use22:39
tekalphaMACscr, thanks.. thats pretty amazing stuff22:39
MACscrand i do love zfs. I just put together my first zfs san22:39
tekalphai love zfs too22:40
tekalphai have over 100 clients using ZFS for SAN's22:40
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MACscrthough im not sure how i am going to use it with openstack et though. So many different ways to do storage with openstack22:40
tekalphahonestly i would do an OpenSolaris / FreeBSD box using HA / CARP...22:41
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tekalpha2 boxes with dual heads that monitor each other22:41
sputnik13_MACscr: openstack supports nexenta22:41
MACscrnexenta is the devil22:41
tekalphaeach head could fail over if a head was to die22:41
sputnik13_MACscr: porque22:42
tekalphaalso that would give you the ability to replicate data using openstack to each of the ZFS boxes that have built in HA22:42
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MACscrtekalpha: what about object storage where it handles the replication itself?22:42
tekalphathats why you have 2 boxes22:43
tekalphaeach box has 2 heads22:43
tekalphathe boxes each are HA to themselves and re-import the ZFS datastore in the case of a Head outage22:43
tekalphabut you have 2 of these boxes... that use object storage replication22:44
sputnik13_for storage I'd love to play with a 2 or 3 node ceph cluster with infiniband for the storage network...  have to do some convincing to get the hardware :(22:44
tekalphaeach are seperate from eachother22:44
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MACscrtekalpha: right, but using object storage might make things much easier to manage22:44
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tekalphayou are using object storage22:45
tekalphaand also ZFS HA22:45
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MACscrwhy both?22:45
sputnik13_MACscr: why do you say nexenta is the devil?22:45
tekalphahow would you do replication of ZFS blocks instantaneously22:45
tekalphayou don't22:46
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MACscrsputnik13_: because of their licensing changes. I have no interest in ever doing any business with them22:46
tekalphayou do replication of snapshots in time22:46
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MACscrtekalpha: swift object storage does the replication itself to multiple storage nodes22:46
sputnik13_MACscr: i c, it's a business thing, not a technology thing22:46
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tekalphaexactly22:47
cipherpunkMACscr: why is nexenta the devil?22:47
MACscrsputnik13_: they are the business that developes the tech22:47
MACscrer, develops22:47
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tekalphaMACscr, but if you want ALL your storage to always be up ... script failover of nodes inside ZFS to do a ZFS import of a ZFS pool if a node fails22:47
sputnik13_MACscr: true, but from my perspective if we can get away from the full rack SANs we deploy for everything, it's still a step up :)22:48
tekalphaMACscr, that isn't replication thats just HA22:48
sputnik13_lesser of evils22:48
MACscrsputnik13_: how would they help you achieve that? They are still sans22:48
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sputnik13_MACscr: I can get down to a couple rack units for smaller scale deployments...  the san arrays we use are like hp xp sans22:49
MACscrwell you can do different sans. What you are talking about is just a nexenta based san22:50
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MACscrsan does not have to be proprietery22:50
sputnik13_MACscr: true, I'm likely letting my geek love for zfs blind me a bit, it also doesn't help our IT dept won't deploy or support anything they can't buy commercial support for...22:51
sputnik13_ceph looks really interesting, but I can't seem to find any good benchmarks22:51
MACscrsputnik13_: i wouldnt call ceph completely production ready imho either22:51
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sputnik13_MACscr: why is that22:52
sputnik13_MACscr: I haven't dug deep in to ceph yet, so I'm a bit ignorant22:52
MACscrsputnik13_: i dont think the devs even say its fully production ready22:52
MACscrnot saying it isnt being used that way yet22:52
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sputnik13_MACscr: I thought dreamhost uses it in production22:53
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MACscrDH is not a great example of a company with stable environments =P22:53
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sputnik13_MACscr: although I wouldn't say dreamhost has the best track record of availability, so maybe that's not the best example22:53
sputnik13_:)22:53
sputnik13_MACscr: yeah I was just thinking that after saying what I did22:53
MACscrthey are an example of a company that sells something that doesnt exist and does it cheaply =P22:53
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sputnik13_MACscr: cheap is something they do extremely well, but yeah I've had some bad experiences with their service22:54
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sputnik13_you get what you pay for :)22:54
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MACscryep. I just find it dishonest when a company says they are selling an unlimited service, but doesnt actually allow you to use unlimited. I find it shady and unethical22:55
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claybInktank supports Ceph23:01
claybYou can find Ceph in the Bloomberg OpenStack Chef scripts at http://github.com/bloomberg/chef-bcpc23:03
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EVegaif I do glance index i get  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/glance/registry/__init__.py", line 117, in get_registry_client23:06
EVega    return client.RegistryClient(_CLIENT_HOST, _CLIENT_PORT,23:06
EVegaAttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'RegistryClient'23:06
EVegaanyone have any ideas?23:06
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MACscrso i am not sure who asked about Piston, but i just gave them a call and while their solution is impressive, their pricing is insane23:11
MACscrim pretty much wary of any software solution that doesnt advertise prices on their site =P23:11
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tms_Here's a random one: upon rebooting instances will ping but not respond to SSH connections until I open their 'Console' on horizon23:40
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tms_anyone seen anything like that ever?23:40
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MACscrodd. ive more seen the opposite (though this was with vm's in general, not openstack specific)23:42
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tms_Yeah, I just deployed grizzly and now I'm poking around looking for flaws :)23:46
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