Tuesday, 2013-07-30

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gchengHi,00:03
gchengwhat is the purposes of api-paste.ini, and why not it merges with main configs? Thanks a lot.00:03
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tms_gcheng: middleware config file used by the EC2/OS API00:07
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MACscrsputnik13_: rackspace seems to have an install and management solution for free that seems more flexible. I just found that too00:43
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tms_okay00:45
tms_what the fuck quantum00:45
tms_it will not give the floating ip that I want to the tenant I want00:45
tms_but it'll give it to other tenants00:45
tms_can I somehow say quantum, give THIS floating IP to THIS tenant00:45
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tms_oh hey, this time it decided to do it00:46
tms_sigh.00:46
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MACscrsputnik13_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO looks promising. But is pretty early on its development00:57
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tms_hmm01:14
tms_so, my metadata service is taking 4 -5 minutes to respond to an empty cloud-init request01:14
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sputnik13_MACscr: thx for the links02:26
sputnik13_p4ssw0rd02:27
sputnik13_huh02:28
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queakerhi folks. i have a very short question. i'm from the universtity of paderborn and we're exploring openstack as cloud solution (TM) for 4 weeks now.07:31
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queakerwe're using openstack grizzly and quantum. actually we want to configure the metadate-publishing-compontents like the metadata-agent...07:31
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queakeractually, we're out of idears how to connect the nova/quantum compontents to get the metadata-service working. is here anybody to help?07:33
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fabricatorhi guys, somebody my take a look on this? -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/42582/07:35
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ekarlso-koolhead17: yo08:50
ekarlso-itarchitectkev: yo08:50
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itarchitectkevhey ekarlso- how are you?09:11
itarchitectkevGot any takers for BillingStack?09:11
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MACscrhuh?09:15
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MACscrno need to make a billing system specific to openstack.09:16
MACscrto huge of a project that will take years to do right09:17
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MACscrbest to work with ceilometer and just import that data into an existing billing solution for hosts09:17
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MACscritarchitectkev: what was your actual question?09:20
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itarchitectkevMACscr, I was asking the lead of the project, ekarlso-09:22
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MACscritarchitectkev: ah, i guess my response was more geared towards him then. =P09:23
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* MACscr has been doing web host related billing dev for about 7 years now09:23
itarchitectkevMACscr, you should check it out if you think its too big or not - the folks have made great in-roads. http://www.billingstack.org/ and check out the presentation at the Portland Summit09:24
MACscri have already09:24
ekarlso-MACscr: ello09:24
itarchitectkevHey ekarlso-, convince MACscr to help ;)09:24
MACscri think the effort is being put into the wrong things09:24
ekarlso-MACscr: you want to help do commits ? :)09:24
* ekarlso- would be joyed09:24
MACscrsry, I applaud the effort, I just dont feel its a wise project09:25
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ekarlso-MACscr: and why not ?09:25
MACscrscroll up to my original response09:25
ekarlso-MACscr: it's not specific to openstack09:26
ekarlso-in any general way09:26
ekarlso-if that is your concern09:26
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MACscrwell the base idea of it is isnt it?09:27
MACscrim not saying it cant be used for other stuff09:27
ekarlso-MACscr: no09:27
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ekarlso-the base idea is to make a billing software that is extensible and open source09:27
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ekarlso-I think I've been doing a fair effort until now with it :)09:29
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ekarlso-ekarlso-: someone else has hinted to turn BS into a BSaaS instead fyi09:30
ekarlso-since it's already in that "model"09:30
MACscrthat seems to happen more often than not with those sort of projects09:30
MACscrat least thats my experience over the last decade09:31
MACscrand i find that unfortunate09:31
ekarlso-MACscr: what's unfortunate ?09:31
MACscrSaaS based billing09:31
ekarlso-MACscr: BS will still remain totally free09:31
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ekarlso-the same software will be available for you to grab down09:32
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MACscrongonig dev or just existing work?09:32
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ekarlso-MACscr: if BS is still developed ?09:32
MACscryes. You thinking of abandoning it?09:32
ekarlso-no09:32
ekarlso-should I ?09:32
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dguerrihi all09:33
MACscrmy apologies for my earlier comment, I thought it was more geared towards open stack. As far as a completely open source billing platform, I am all for that09:33
dguerriomeone knows how these http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com images are built?09:33
dguerri*someone09:33
ekarlso-MACscr: indeed it is09:33
MACscrspent quite a few years working on one back in 06 to 0909:33
ekarlso-like any other openstack is09:34
ekarlso-openstack project is sorry09:34
ekarlso-we host the main repo at stackforge because of the great CI environment there09:34
ekarlso-and use the same libs as OS to not maintain our own09:34
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fabricatorneutron problem: " WARNING keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token  Retrying on HTTP connection exception: [Errno 113] EHOSTUNREACH"10:38
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dee_I am making some changes in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf and saving it to run my new federated keystone cloned from github. But once I run ./stack.sh the changes made to the configuration file is not remaining,it gets back to the old state and  Iam getting an OS auth error please heklp11:28
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dee_I am making some changes in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf and saving it to run my new federated keystone cloned from github. But once I run ./stack.sh the changes made to the configuration file is not remaining,it gets back to the old state and  Iam getting an OS auth error please heklp12:13
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* Leto2 looks around12:32
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cipherpunkcan anyone help me with openstack setup on ubuntu using a puppet module? i am having some problems managing keystone using the cli12:33
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Leto2cipherpunk: heh, me too :)12:34
Leto2what are you stuck at?12:34
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cipherpunkLeto2: this is what happens during the puppet run: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e2010847a07f95797f5c12:37
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Leto2no idea :(12:43
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Leto2what I'm stuck at is that when I using service tokens, I can do things like service-list, user-list, but I can't do that if I'm using authentication.12:44
Leto2yet "token-get" seems to work just fine.12:44
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RM_hey#13:21
RM_Unable to preallocate_images=space at path: /var/lib/nova/instances/8c4ca60c-5d90-473f-a74d-3d279f197d75/disk13:21
RM_why that? ;)13:21
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koolhead17ekarlso-: hoi13:23
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cipherpunki am getting this when i try to launch an instance, what does it mean: {u'message': u'EndpointNotFound', u'code': 500, u'details': u'Could not find Service or Region in Service Catalog. ?13:54
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agycipherpunk: a url in your keystone catalog is returning a 500 error. check the urls in your keystone catalog and check the service logs13:58
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rankoCan someone please throw some pointers on getting rid of VmError: Device 51952 (tap2) could not be connected. Device not found.14:00
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rankoHave tried this patch (http://goo.gl/fi4T0J) that leads to some other errors14:00
cipherpunkagy: seems like it is this: 2013-07-30 16:00:30.056 ERROR nova.network.quantumv2 [req-524ae7d6-0380-422e-88b4-97b783ece3c6 fea2c493829340e99192d36ba9b49b00 23569f1c10514a84a84572600d47e041] _get_auth_token() failed14:00
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s0maIs it possible to add multiple virtual fixed ip's to an instance?  ie.. eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3 all with unique addresses from the fixed pool?  I've been rather unsuccessful with my google-fu on this one.14:04
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dianefleming@kenperkins - you here?15:05
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dianeflemingwhat's up?15:05
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kenperkinssee my private message?15:06
dianeflemingyes15:06
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kbringards0ma: yea, look at the —nic option of nova boot15:31
kbringardCreate a NIC on the server. Specify option multiple15:31
kbringard                        times to create multiple NICs.15:31
kbringardthe trick is that your image has to support dynamically creating the interfaces, or you have to go in and add them after the fact15:32
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ChocoboWow, floating IPs go a lot quicker when one is required for every external router :P15:40
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s0makbringard thanks!16:20
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wahly_is it possible to use openstack without openvswitch, and just rely on the compute nodes networking for the VMs that are on it?16:53
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aXs_wahly_: sounds like nova-networking16:53
aXs_wahly_: in multi-host mode16:53
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wahly_aXs_: i'll google that. thanks16:54
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wahly_hmm.... that might be able to accomplish what i'm trying, but it still seems a little more complicated than i was hoping16:57
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wahly_when i use kvm with virt-manager, i just create a bridged network and trunk the VLANs to the network interface and let my networking stack handle everything. i'd like something similar with openstack16:58
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itamarjpits starting now17:52
itamarjphttps://cc.readytalk.com/cc/s/registrations/new?cid=lespaq0blwhj17:52
itamarjpopenstack in 15 minutes using openstack-packstack17:52
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hk_peterjust being banned from the openstack mailing list, may be i should post something that challenge the relation between openstack and vmware18:04
hk_peteri mean't shouldnt, typo18:04
e_steveHello all.. Is it possible to download an instance and create it as a formal image, instead of snapshotting?18:04
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ekarlso-dhellmann: ping18:11
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ekarlso-got time for some pecan questions ?18:11
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e_steveIs there an equivilant to glance.images.list()[0].data for an instance? I would like to be able to download the root disk of an instance, if thats possible..18:46
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kbringarde_steve: I may be wrong, but not that I'm aware of… you'd need to access it directly on the compute node (in /var/lib/nova/instances/<UUID> by default)18:59
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holmsanybody got this problem with devstack..? http://www.lachlanmunro.com/?p=5919:22
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OneST8hey all, I asked this question in openstack-101 but got no response… I just received a bunch of 1U servers that I'd like to setup as a "Basement Cloud" so-to-speak and am trying to sort out if OpenStack is what I should be using and if so, how should I start digging into it19:48
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kbringardOneST8: we probably can't tell you if OpenStack is what you want to be using19:49
kbringardbut19:49
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kbringardI've found this install guide to be quite useful19:49
kbringardhttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst19:49
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kbringardfor setting up OpenStack Grizzly with OVS and Neutron19:50
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OneST8oooo that looks really good19:51
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kbringards to the first question, my *opinion* is that OpenStack is the best choice for a utility cloud19:52
OneST8My main objective with this was to learn OpenStack… (I've got 8 old 1U PowerEdge 650 servers to mess with, no raid but hoping there's enough machine redundancy to compensate)19:52
kbringard:-)19:52
OneST8hehe :)19:52
holmsOneST8: o/ got dell power edge 2850 :D19:53
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holmsand having problems with devstack under debian wheezy =/19:54
OneST8hmm, wanted to go Debian with things instead of Ubuntu… perhaps this is an opportunity for me to contribute back by porting this guide to debian19:54
* OneST8 got all 8 machines for free, beat that! haha!19:54
holmsOneST8: what's you intension with openstack :)?19:54
holmsplayaround.. or contribute maybe?19:55
OneST8Take over the world?19:55
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holms:D19:55
holmsdevstack.org <-- try this for start :)19:55
OneST8I do want to run a gnunet and tor gateway "in the end" but want to get all whacky underneath19:55
holmsseems legit19:56
holmsfirst i'll try with devstack, later openstack operations guide maybe lead my way..19:56
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OneST8and I have no qualms helping back to the community… got a few ancient things on CPAN and I (and my bud) used to provide the garnome and kde builds for debian back in '01/'02… then RL bit my head off and career needed focus heh19:57
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wahly_is there a way to configure openstack (nova-network or openvswitch perhaps?) to use DHCP services that already exist on my network?20:02
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NashTrashHello Stackers21:25
kbringardsup nash21:25
kbringardlong time no chat21:25
NashTrashHola kbringard21:25
NashTrashBeen a while21:25
kbringardyea, I've been wicked busy :-/21:25
kbringardhow are ya?21:25
NashTrash**nod**21:26
NashTrashBusy too, but life is good.21:26
kbringardglad to hear it21:26
NashTrashSecond child.  Lots of research and teaching.21:26
NashTrashNothing to complain about21:26
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NashTrashIs it snowing there yet?21:26
kbringardlol, not yet21:26
NashTrashSOON21:26
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kbringardbeen getting a lot of rain, tho21:26
NashTrashRaining here now21:27
kbringardit usually doesn't snow here until October21:27
kbringard*usually*21:27
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NashTrashI have an easy question.  Can you snapshot a volume using Horizon (Grizzly)?  I can't seem to find the button for that anywhere.21:27
kbringardI thought so… one sec let me check mine21:28
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kbringardyea… I go "Volumes" -> "More" -> "Create Snapshot"21:28
NashTrashNever mind.  It just has to not be attached and then it appears on the Volumes page.21:28
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kbringardahhh21:29
kbringardinteresting21:29
NashTrashSee what I get for asking a silly question.21:29
kbringardlol21:29
kbringardit's nice to get an easy one now and again ;-)21:29
NashTrashOur clouds are humming along.  Yours doing OK?21:29
kbringardyea, mostly21:29
kbringardworking on getting everything upgraded to grizzly21:30
perfectsinekbrierly: switching to quantum/neutron?21:30
perfectsinekbringard: *21:30
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NashTrashWe just jumped to Grizzly too.  Everything is good now, but we are still stuck on nova-network.  Need a nova-network -> neutron migrator21:30
kbringardperfectsine: debating on that… in general no, though21:30
kbringardbecause of what NashTrash just said :-D21:30
kbringardso mostly doing new deploys then migrations21:31
perfectsineI can only imagine what pain that's going to be21:31
NashTrashSeems our cloud users don't like the idea of having to kill off every VM21:31
kbringardhaha, zactly21:31
kbringardone of the main things I work on is getting people into a "cloudy" mindset21:32
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kbringardwhere they see their VMs as cows in a herd of cattle, as opposed to a pet they nurture and love21:32
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NashTrashDeployment automation is something we are really pushing.  That way they can rebuilt any VM in little time and less effort.21:32
kbringardyea, same21:33
kbringardI use Netflix as an example quite often21:33
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NashTrashYou have a favorite approach?  We have been spending a fair amount of time with Ansible21:33
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kbringardnot particularly… mostly we advocate image snapshots for huge changes and chef for config management/deploy21:34
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kbringardI've never used ansible, I'll have to check it out21:35
NashTrashJust another shot at something like Chef.21:35
kbringarddo you find the open source version works well?21:35
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NashTrashWell enough.  We have pasted on a bunch of cloud related functionality, but the core Ansible stuff works well.21:36
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NashTrashkbringard: I have to go.  But it was good to say hi.  Thanks21:38
kbringardyea man21:38
kbringardhave a good one21:38
kbringardtake care21:38
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s0makbringard: regarding my previous question about networking.  I believe I found what I needed with 'nova add-fixed-ip'.  The problem I am seeing now is that iptables isn't being updated with the appropriate rules for NAT'ing that new fixed ip.21:44
s0maam I missing a step bychance?21:44
kbringardadding a new fixed IP just creates a new interface, i believe…. if you then want to associate an external IP with it, you'll need to nova add-floating-ip21:45
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kbringardassuming I understand your situation correctly21:46
kbringardwhich I may not :-D21:46
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s0maNo, you're spot on.  Issuing that command NATs the added ip to the original fixed ip though.22:06
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s0maand not the new one22:07
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BlackFXHi, Wondering if anyone has had this issue - none of my OS VM's seem to be able access https.22:09
BlackFXthey just connect then hang.22:09
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BlackFXI have disabled toe on all devices in the path.22:10
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FL1SKhi guys22:59
FL1SKhow do you get access to the openstack dashboard over the bastion network22:59
Egyptian[Laptop]bastion ?22:59
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FL1SKyeah bastion network23:02
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Azishttp://i.imgur.com/CnEeI.jpg?123:03
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mgagnedon't click on that link23:08
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MACscri really need some guidance on what i should use for storage for my vm instances. Is swift actually an option for the actual entire vm storage?23:49
MACscris it a good option?23:50
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MACscrI am concerned about performance23:50
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