Wednesday, 2013-07-31

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tonixhi, I'm running grizzly (self deployed) and have a little problem with my nova/quantum setup - everytime I access the dashboard, I got the error message: "Unable to retrieve instance list" or "Unable to retrieve quota information"; if I'm looking in the log files, I see in nova-api the error: "QuantumClientException: 404 Not Found" (more details in: http://paste.openstack.org/show/42696/ )00:20
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tonixdo you have a hint for me please? I'm trying to solve this for a couple of hours now :-)00:20
tonixIt seems to be a nova problem, as quantum does not report any errors in its logs00:21
BlackFXmost likely keystone related00:21
tonixthe endpoints?00:21
BlackFXlook at your users/tenants/service users/endpoints00:21
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tonixis there a relation between users and endpoints?00:22
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tonixI'll check that, thank you, BlackFX!00:23
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gennaro123ciao a tutti00:50
gennaro123list!00:50
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tonixhmm, the endpoints seems to be correct (compared with fedora install guide and quantum install guide), the service users all have the admin role for tenant "service", as far as I know, they don't need any other rights, do they?00:56
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tonixokay, I need some sleep :-). Have a good night/day! bye bye01:06
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YeeHi03:40
Yeeis this the good time to ask questions?03:40
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Yeeanybody around this channel?03:41
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MACscrYee: rarely is anyone active in here04:30
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MACscrat least not anyone that actually answers questions =P04:31
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YeeHi MACscr,04:39
Yeewhich time is suitable to ask questions?04:39
MACscrthere isnt one. Ive been here a week and its pretty much dead all the time except for people asking questions04:40
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Yeei just used rdo-release-havana-2 for openstack installation and got some error04:44
MACscrwhich is expected since its beta software04:44
Yeepython-quantumclient is obsoleted by python-neutron client which is already installed04:44
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Yeeooh04:45
MACscrhavana wont be released for a few months04:45
Yeeokey so will u advise to use grizzly?04:45
MACscrits like october or november04:45
MACscryes04:45
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MACscrwhy did you think otherwise?04:45
Yeei just tired04:45
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Yeei am thinking to setup openstack in my single server04:46
Yeeso i saw havana is the latest release04:46
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MACscrwhere did you see that?04:48
MACscrhttp://www.openstack.org/software/grizzly/04:49
Yeenope i saw in the fedora repo there is path for havana04:49
MACscrlatest release04:49
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MACscrah, fedora is beta software04:49
MACscrthats the whole point of the distro04:49
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Yeeooh ya i understand that so far grizzly is the official release by openstack04:50
Yeethanks for ur info i try with grizzly04:51
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rev__hi05:35
MACscrsup rev__05:36
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MACscrwhats the difference between a ephemeral disk and a root disk? Ive seen descriptions, but im still not 100% sure what the point is. Is root just for the OS and the secondary one is just for extra storage if needed? so maybe you use a faster volume that is SAS based for the OS and then maybe slower sata storage for the secondary disk?07:11
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berealhi, is that possible to make swift using anything else but syslog?07:20
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QlawyHow openstack manages disks for Windows? How windows handle with ephemeral disks?09:08
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IleQlawy, Windows Server shows the ephemeral disk as offline at first, so you have to put it online first. Then you have to initialize it and then format and assign a drive letter for it. Then it’s ready to use.09:24
Ilethat's what i found out when i tested windows server on openstack09:24
QlawyIle: tnx09:25
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fabricatorhi folks, please take a look to this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/42733/ Thank !10:45
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fabricatorno one can help me? ;-(10:52
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BobBallfabricator: I have no idea - but you might want to ask in #openstack-neutron and possibly later in the day so it's when the US folk are online11:15
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fabricatorBobBall: thank you11:41
fabricator!11:42
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mistymayHey everyone!12:41
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mistymayMy project is moving fast in the stand up of OpenStack and I was hoping to have some questions answered by the people who know!12:42
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kbringardask away, mistymay12:44
kbringardhey, I made a rhyme12:44
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deeceedeeHas anyone had any luck getting OpenStack setup on Debian Wheezy(preferably with puppet)?12:44
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kbringarddeeceedee: sorry, not me, I use Ubuntu like most everyone else :-/12:44
deeceedeekbringard: starting to think i should do the same12:45
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mistymaySo I have a pretty simple setup. 1 controller and 11 compute nodes.  I am looking to bring up another controller node.  The question is how does OpenStack do this.  When I stand up another controller does nova recognize the service? Is there some HA build into this detection for failover?12:45
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kbringardor look into RHEL's openstack deal, but that doesn't help you with debian :-)12:46
mistymaywe have 32 more blades I am looking to add to OS12:46
deeceedee:(12:46
kbringardmistymay: the term controller is kind of a misnomer… what specifically do you mean by "controller"?12:46
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kbringardsome services can be run N Active (like the API servers), others require more finesse, like the neutron l3-agents12:47
mistymayi am using the rackspace chef recipes12:48
kbringardthe rcbops ones?12:48
mistymayso i mean assigning the role of single-controller12:48
mistymayyes12:48
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mistymay1 box: single-controller   11 boxes: single-compute12:48
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kbringardI'm not familiar enough with those recipes to know how you would do it with them, but12:50
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kbringardin general you can run most things in active/active12:50
kbringardso long as they're pointing to the same/correct DB and message queue12:51
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mistymayOk, good to know12:51
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mistymayThanks for your help BTW!12:52
kbringardyou're welcome12:52
kbringardI'm sorry I'm not more help12:52
mistymayNo no, that actually helps.  That got me in the right direction12:53
kbringardrackerjoe works on those recipes, he may be able to give you some more details specific to their use12:53
mistymayok!12:53
mistymaySo here is a bit of an opinion question12:54
kbringardi have lots of opinions ;-)12:54
mistymayRecipes or no?12:54
kbringardeventually, absolutely12:54
kbringardwether it's chef, puppet, or whatever12:55
kbringardmy personal methodology is to build our PoCs by hand so I can see how they get built12:55
mistymayThe reason I am using them is that it is a requirement that we utilize Chef.  Fine.  So we are, and the rcbops has provided a great point to start with but in general i was wondering what others were seeing (especially since we are so new to the game)12:56
kbringardand more easily make changes to see how it affects things12:56
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mistymayTrue statement there!12:56
kbringardthere's also some other cookbooks at stackforge12:57
kbringardhttps://github.com/stackforge/12:57
kbringardif you're looking for options12:57
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mistymayOh i am!12:57
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kbringardbut again, my opinion is that if you're looking to test out things to understand how OpenStack works, it's better to first deploy its individual pieces "manually"12:58
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kbringardbut that's just my opinion, it may not be how you work best :-D12:59
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mistymayNo, it is a valid recommendation and exactly what I am looking for.13:00
mistymayI may "manually" stand another stack up on the other blade center13:00
kbringardI assume you're using neutron for network and… probably Open vSwitch?13:00
kbringardI've found this guide to be a good starting point13:00
kbringardhttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst13:00
mistymayThe defaults in the chef recipies13:01
mistymayYES! I had found that guide13:01
kbringardthat branch is for running it with neutron+ovs and multiple nodes, but there are other branches for other scenarios13:01
kbringardif the rcpops recipes got things working, I'd probably make a note of the network settings and stuff it setup13:02
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mistymayTime to go diving13:03
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hanucan someone please tell me how to check the endpoint for keystone ? I have installed federated keystone13:04
kbringardhanu: you should be able to run keystone endpoint-list with admin credentials13:05
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hanuhow to run it command line ?13:06
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kbringardsorry, I don't understand… you source an rc file of a user with admin rights and then run keystone endpoint-list13:07
kbringardthat will cause the keystone client to query the keystone API for the endpoints13:08
kbringardI think you can also get it in horizon, but I don't recall exactly where13:08
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kbringardhanu: http://paste.openstack.org/show/42748/13:09
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hanu<kbringard> thank you so much for your response !! My problem is i have already got list of services running within the catalog service of keystone. I have added my university of kent as an IdP service to the catalog. Now I need to checl if the endpoint that I have added for university of kent works. Can you please tell me hoe to check this ?13:18
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kbringardsorry, that I don't know :-/13:21
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rikerHey all. I have a multi-node Grizzly install with a Controller node (all services) and 2 compute nodes (openstack-nova-compute + quantum-openvswitch-agent). The VMs that spawn on the compute nodes don't have network connectivity.13:41
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rikerI see ARP requests making it to br-tun but not through that being forwarded to the controller (network) node.13:41
rikerDoes anyone have any suggestions as to how I can enable connectivity?13:41
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kbringardare you using GRE for the OVS overlay network?13:42
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kbringardriker: ^^13:43
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riker@kbringard yes13:43
kbringardis the gre mesh up and working?13:44
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kbringardmaybe try ovs-vsctl on the compute node and see if you see gre ports to all the other nodes13:44
rikerYes, they are all there on each node.13:44
rikerMatching gre ports as well.13:44
kbringardhmmm, is anything making it to br-int?13:46
rikerI run ping 10.0.1.1 (gateway) in the vm through the vnc session and then run tcpdump on br-tun and I see a ton of arp requests.13:47
rikerThis is on the compute node.13:47
riker13:44:23.241106 ARP, Request who-has 10.0.1.1 tell 10.0.1.4, length 2813:47
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kbringard:-/13:47
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rikerWho is supposed to be responding to the arp requests?13:48
rikerLocal or is that supposed to make it to the network node?13:48
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jdobi'm hitting a weird issue installing keystone. http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/yum/content/basic-install_controller.html  says to manually create the databases, but when I run "openstack-db --init --service keystone" it's failing because the databases are already created. any ideas?14:05
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Quintana_hello, i've created a custom squeeze ami and i'm using it on grizzly release, i have a strange issue with the size of my image when it launched. The image have a 383M and when i'm choosing a flavor like 10G or 20G the flavor is not respected. df indicate 383M but fdisk 10G. I missed something ?14:48
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Quintana_look like the same issue : https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg19402.html14:49
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daveopsAnyone else seeing GPG errors from the Ubuntu Cloud Archive?15:17
daveopsI'm receiving them when installing some packages and when running `apt-get update`.15:17
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rankoIs there any way to bring up existing xen vms in openstack?15:36
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Qlawyranko: you mean VM spawned in xen and after that xen is connected to openstack?15:38
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Qlawyranko: ok, nvm… never used openstack with xen, but just realized that it doesnt work that way with xen15:39
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rankoQlawy: yes, vms created in xen15:41
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rankoQlawy: any other way of importing them to openstack?15:41
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Qlawyranko: rather no chance, I know one driver which is almost doing that but its for vmware and is properiaty15:47
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Qlawyranko: however… that "imported" vm is a litle bit … incomplete15:47
Qlawyranko: some problem with network and other things15:48
Qlawyranko: but w8 for another answers, perhaps im wrong15:48
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rankoQlawy: thanks15:49
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Qlawyranko: I think that the best way to have vm managable by OpenStack is spawn them using OpenStack ;)15:50
rankoQlawy: yeah, that's what I am realizing now15:50
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rankoQlawy: just wanted to check if someone has tried this and got any success15:52
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Qlawyranko: I think its not worth it15:53
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gregmarkranko: it *should* be possible.  Your hypervisors have no idea that OpenStack is pulling the strings.  However, with the complexity of OpenStack, I imagine that you would A) have to reconfigure your VM's networking at the minimum and B) have to do some serious work in the various db's15:53
Qlawyranko: better try to create "snapshots", and then spawn VMs from those snapshots but using openstack15:53
Qlawygregmark: nova-compute will now that, there are unmanaged vms, but ... what now15:54
Qlawyknow*15:54
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gregmarkqlawy: like I said, mucho mysql updates15:55
Qlawyyeah15:55
Qlawybut you can be first one, ranko, who will write automation script for that ;)15:55
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gregmarkI could be wrong, but I've thought about this before and I don't see why it couldn't be done.. not "why would you" when there are other, I would say easier options is beyond me15:55
rankoWill try creating the snapshot and the spawn using openstack15:56
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gregmarks/not/now/15:56
rankothen*15:56
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jeffa1if Openstack is going to take over the world those migration scripts will be needed (for VMware, Xen, KVM, etc…) :-)16:01
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BobBallranko: we've had success bringing an existing VM's VHD in to openstack on XenServer - so close to what you want! that's just putting the VHD in glance and spinning it up using OS as you suggest16:07
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rankoBobBall: how painful was that?16:08
BobBallit's just a disk image16:08
BobBallhttp://blogs.citrix.com/2012/10/17/upload-custom-images-to-a-xenserver-powered-openstack-cloud/ might help16:09
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BobBalloh no - that's the wrong one!16:09
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BobBallhttp://blogs.citrix.com/2012/09/06/vhd-to-openstack-using-a-xapi-host-plugin/16:09
BobBallthere's even a fun little video16:09
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rankoBobBall: cheers16:10
BobBallglad to help!16:11
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KernelDogHey folks, did anyone ever managed to add ESXi (with already bunch of VMs) into their OpenStack setup?16:25
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rankoI am stuck with this issue: "Device 51952 (tap2) could not be connected. Device not found." :-(16:27
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rankoany pointers?16:27
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rikerranko: using quantum?16:38
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rankoriker: no, nova-network16:39
rankoriker: libvirt + xen16:40
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rankoriker: here is the log from xend.log: http://pastebin.com/FJpJxHZt16:45
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rikerI had similar issues with quantum and the trick was to run the quantum-ovs-cleanup program to get rid of latent tap device entries.16:46
rikerMaybe its something similar.16:46
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rankojust noticed that: WARNING (BlktapController:168) WARNING: using deprecated blktap module16:50
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rankocould be the issue?16:51
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galstromany ubuntu cloudarchive peoples around?17:19
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galstromi am assuming that you are aware that precise-updates/grizzly is borked with a bad signature17:20
galstrombut if not.. thought i would say something17:20
galstrom:)17:20
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galstromok.. good talk russ17:21
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gregmarkandi: I already have that installed, but I'm running on raring, which has all the required packages in the default repos.  I'm going to upgrade all my ceph nodes to the latest (0.64.7, I think) and see if that helps.17:25
gregmarkstrike that, I was thinking of openstack17:26
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gregmarkI have this: http://ceph.com/debian-cuttlefish/ raring/main amd64 Packages17:26
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smoserracker_markd, ok. reproduced here. i'll raise this. thank you.17:27
daveopsthanks smoser!17:27
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Gamekiller77i am having some odd problem with glance registry starting with init.d.  It will start from the CLI just find but when i start it as as service it bounces17:36
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Gamekiller77also i am starting glance-registry in the /etc/glance folder so it grabbing all the conf files17:38
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odyssey4meGamekiller77 - which OS, package source, etc?17:40
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Gamekiller77i am useing Centos 6.417:44
Gamekiller77with the RDO repo for grizzly17:45
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Gamekiller77so i got the service now to start with this glance-registry --config-file /etc/glance/glance-registry.conf17:45
smoserdaveops, racker_markd shoudl be fixed now.17:46
Gamekiller77before i was getting that glance-registry-paste.ini17:46
racker_markdverified.  Thank you!17:46
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Gamekiller77but saw i did not have the full path int he conf file17:47
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Gamekiller77but still the service will not start via service17:47
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Gamekiller77so odd it will start manually via the CLI and it will not start via the services17:49
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Gamekiller77btw the log file looks clean too17:50
Gamekiller77i have verbose enabled on the conf file17:50
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Gamekiller77i have checked the init.d start file and it doing the same thing i am doing manually on the cli17:56
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odyssey4meGamekiller77 - sorry, I'm not familiar with the RDO build at all.17:58
Gamekiller77it the grizzly build for RHEL17:58
Gamekiller77for fedora17:58
badamsis there anyone here who can help me with a malformed request url error?17:59
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Gamekiller77i wondering if there is an error in this init.d script18:01
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Gamekiller77ok i found the problem all18:06
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Gamekiller77odyssey4me: it was the log file it was owned and grouped own by root.  as soon i as i changed it to glance it fired up fine18:07
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odyssey4meGamekiller77 - Sounds like a package bug, unless you mucked with something. Good catch - report it!18:08
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Gamekiller77i have to re try it again there also a bug in the defualt conf file for the paste.ini file18:10
Gamekiller77it listed as simple file name not full path to the file18:10
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QlawyGamekiller77: registry.log?18:13
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QlawyGamekiller77: there are a lot of such things in rhel openstack ;/18:14
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goyferi'm testing user-data option with cloud-init. a simple script, but it is not being executed. i see in /var/log/cloud-init.log Did not find data source. searched classes: ['DataSourceNoCloudNet', 'DataSourceConfigDriveNet', 'DataSourceOVFNet', 'DataSourceMAAS']18:31
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goyferany thoughts/suggestions?18:35
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larsksgoyfer: Once the system is up, can you access the user data (or any metadata) using curl to http://169.254.169.254/?18:38
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goyferlarsks: yes i can18:38
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larsksWhat distribution are you running?18:38
goyferubuntu precise 12.0418:38
goyferopenstack grizzly18:39
larsksIt should be searching DataSourceEc2, which I don't see in that list.18:39
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larsks...I'm going to have to boot up an ubuntu instance to take  a look.  Possibly someone here will have a better answer while I'm poking.18:40
goyferok thank you18:40
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larsksgoyfer: I just booted an Ubuntu precise image (using the official Ubuntu cloud image) and it worked fine; here are my notes: https://gist.github.com/larsks/612491918:48
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larsksThis system has cloud-init 0.6.3-0ubuntu1.18:50
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larsksNote that in the log there's the same message from cloud-init that you posted...but it's followed by a second run of cloud-init that happens after networking comes up (which does by the Ec2 data source).18:51
goyferlarsks: thanks. my cloud-init version is the same.18:51
goyferyeah it seems i'm missing something18:51
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goyferwhat is your /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg18:52
larsksgoyfer: https://gist.github.com/612496818:53
larsksAlso, in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/90_dpkg.cfg, there's: datasource_list: [ NoCloud, ConfigDrive, OVF, MAAS, Ec2 ]18:53
larsks(These are stock from what comes on the cloud images)18:54
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goyferoh yes18:56
goyferthank you that is it18:56
larsksYay!18:56
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goyfersweet! thanks a lot man18:56
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Anju_what is OpenStack Summit in Hong Kong19:01
Anju_?19:01
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Anju_and who can go there?19:02
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larsksAnju_: Does http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/ not answer your questions?19:02
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andi-is it easily possible to use a local interface (with tons of vlans tagged on to it) on each compute node instead of "network nodes" without to much manual configuration work? This whole network node stuff looks like alot unused overhead in my scenario19:03
Anju_larsks:i mean who can attend this? anyone?19:03
larsksWell, it says it's for "developers, users, and administrators" of openstack.  So that seems to cover just about everybody.19:03
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Anju_one who did ot commit any code can alo join this?: larsks19:04
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larsksAnju_: I think that many "users" and "administrators" have not comitted any code, so yes.  Go ahead.19:05
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Anju_ohk larsks:thanks19:05
Anju_larsks:actually i got mail19:06
Anju_so i was asking19:06
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jb_netappacathrow: ping20:09
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haz_in devstack, installed on centos 6.4 hw, and with /etc/nova/nova.conf changed to libvirt_type = kvm, I still only see QEMU as the hypervisor in Horizon.. anything I need to check?20:11
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haz_would like to run this as KVM, hardware support is enabled, /dev/kvm is there and modules are modprobed and loaded20:12
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perfectsinehaz_: have you install nova-compute-kvm?20:22
perfectsinethrough devstack?20:22
haz_not sure, was that installed through devstack naturally?20:22
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perfectsinehaz_: Seems like devstack makes the switch automatically, http://devstack.org/lib/nova.html20:26
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perfectsinehaz_: You are saying that during installation devstack switched you to qemu?20:28
haz_yes20:28
haz_I completed a devstack installation on hw20:28
haz_and in Horizon under hypervisors it only lists QEMU20:29
haz_am I correct in assuming that means QEMU is my hypervisor?20:29
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haz_which seems odd, given the nova.conf details all point to kvm20:29
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Qlawyhaz_: check nova hypervisor-list and than type in hypervisor-show20:30
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Qlawythen*20:30
SoFLyI've got openstack setup on rhel 6.4 x86_64 and everything is up and running ok. added an image, but when I create the image it throws an error. I can't seem to get the logs to work for openstack (or devstack?). Any suggestions?20:31
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SoFLy(I'm using devstack as a proof of concept integration with vSphere)20:31
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SoFLyI'm sorry when I launch an instance with the image*20:32
tmsHey folks, I'm running into a strange problem with cloud-init failing to fetch metadata from quantum, but I'm getting no output in /var/log/quantum/metadata-agent on either the controllers or the compute nodes20:32
tms:(20:32
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QlawySoFLy: try to check scheduler.log20:32
SoFLyis that in /var/log?20:32
SoFLyi have nothing in /var/log :(20:32
tms/var/log/nova?20:32
SoFLynot there20:33
QlawySoFLy: Oo its why I dont like devstack20:33
SoFLyyes.20:33
SoFLylol.20:33
SoFLyin my localrc i've got SCREEN_LOGDIR=/var/log20:33
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QlawySoFLy: openstack logs in rhel works well20:33
QlawySoFLy: its screen, not iportant20:33
SoFLyyeah, it's devstack.20:33
SoFLyright20:34
QlawySoFLy: so you have no ... logs in files20:34
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QlawySoFLy: only logs you have are in screen20:34
SoFLyyeah, nothing in /var/log20:34
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QlawySoFLy: attach screen with devstack and then select proper tab/windows/whatever20:34
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QlawySoFLy: try screen -list20:34
SoFLyscreen doesn't return anything20:35
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QlawySoFLy: not good20:35
SoFLyyou want the screen grab of a "ls" in /var/log?20:35
SoFLyyeah20:35
SoFLyi've been confused as well20:35
QlawySoFLy: no20:35
SoFLyalso, glad to move to PM if that is desirable for you or others20:35
QlawySoFLy: ok, check if any opensack services are running20:35
QlawySoFLy: doesnt matter for me20:36
SoFLyyeah they're all running20:36
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haz_sorry guys, I'm having a heck of a time getting any nova commands to run, need to figure out the perms model20:36
SoFLyi can access nova CLI20:36
SoFLyglance20:36
SoFLyetc.20:36
SoFLyhorizon is OK20:36
QlawySoFLy: O_O damn, I was using devstack half yeah ago20:37
QlawySoFLy: w8 moment20:37
SoFLyyeah, no rush :) thanks for the help20:37
SoFLyhaz_ what issue are you having? invalid creds?20:37
haz_was.. got that resolved20:38
SoFLyhaha, perfect20:38
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haz_invalid choice u"hypervisors-list"20:38
SoFLyah20:38
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QlawySoFLy: did you use rejoin-stack.sh? :>20:38
SoFLyno, haven't used that20:38
SoFLyonly ran stack.sh and untstack.sh20:39
SoFLyrebooted and ran .stack fresh too, still had same issues20:39
Qlawyhmm20:39
QlawySoFLy: ok, try to rejoin-stack.now20:39
Qlawy... rejoin-stack.sh20:39
haz_ok hypervisor-show only gives me the QEMU hypervisor20:39
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Qlawyhaz_: lsmod | grep kvm20:40
Qlawyhaz_: w8... you are testing vsphere?20:40
SoFLyQlawy: "Couldn't find ./stack-screenrc file; have you run stack.sh yet?20:40
SoFLyalso, relevant information20:40
SoFLyif i run unstack.sh20:40
SoFLyit runs fine once20:40
SoFLythen i run stack20:40
haz_kvm and kvm_intel20:40
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Qlawyhaz_: hmm, looks good20:40
QlawySoFLy: eee… strange20:41
SoFLyit says you've got an instance. screen -x stack to switch to it. it won't switch me in. then i run unstack again, httpd fails to stop, and then if i run stack after it fails it executes fine again20:41
haz_I know right..20:41
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perfectsinehaz_: when you launch an instance, what command does the compute node show it's using?20:42
tmssoooo... anyone have any idea why quantum and the metadata service hate each other? And/or what I'm doing wrong here?20:43
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QlawySoFLy: it should be screen running if stack.sh complited well, try ps and grep20:43
haz_not sure how I would launch an instance from the commandline, I've launched one through the web interface20:44
Qlawytms: did you use doc from github describing how to make quantum working?20:44
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Qlawyhaz_: its easy20:44
Qlawyhaz_: nova image-list20:44
SoFLywhat should i grep Qlawy20:44
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Qlawyhaz_: nova boot --image <image-id> --flavor <flavor-id> <instance-name>20:44
Qlawyhaz_: thats all :)20:44
QlawySoFLy: screen ;)20:45
tmsQlawy: I'm not entirely sure. I've used a bunch of docs to configure the metadata proxy, but nothign seems to be working and I get absolutely *no* output in any of the metadata logs :(20:45
QlawySoFLy: ps aux | grep screen20:45
SoFLyjust returns "grep screen"20:45
SoFLyi.e. the command20:45
Qlawytms: I was using this https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide20:45
SoFLyI'm running as root, btw...20:45
perfectsinehaz_: you can launch it from horizon also, but look at top, it should show kvm or possibly qemu-system-x86 as the command for the running instance20:46
SoFLywhen i run stack.sh it runs as user "stack" tho20:46
Qlawytms: but I have been beaten by quantum (neutron now) ;/20:46
tmsQlawy: ooh awesome. I haven't seen this one yet. I'll take a look20:46
tmsQlawy: the most annoying part is that EVERYTHING works, except the metadata service which causes cloud-init to sit at reboot on instances until it times out at five minutes20:46
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tmsQlawy: best part is we're not even using cloud-init :P20:46
haz_qemu-kvm20:46
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haz_that's interesting20:46
haz_user qemu20:47
Qlawytms: there are some tricky things to force metadata to work20:47
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Qlawyhaz_: its normal, kvm was renamed to qemu-kvm20:47
haz_ahh20:47
haz_so I am running kvm20:47
Qlawy:)20:47
tmsQlawy: so I've been reading :)20:47
haz_it just lists it as qemu20:47
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SoFLyscreen -ls20:48
haz_that one is a noddle baker20:48
haz_thanks20:48
SoFLyreturns "no sockets fond in /var/run/screen/S-root20:48
QlawySoFLy: what abut that ps and grep thing? Any returns?20:48
SoFLyif i run as "stack" (user)20:48
SoFLyi get20:48
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SoFLy12402.stack (Detached) 1 socket found..20:49
QlawySoFLy: perfect!20:49
QlawySoFLy: attach to it20:49
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SoFLysudo screen -x 12402.stack20:50
SoFLyright?20:50
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QlawySoFLy: almost20:51
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QlawySoFLy: SoFLy sudo -u stack screen -x20:51
Qlawyshould be good enough20:51
QlawySoFLy: you have to run that screen as user stack20:51
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QlawySoFLy: any progress?20:52
SoFLy-u is not balid syntax20:52
SoFLyvalid20:52
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Qlawyi always hated sudo20:52
SoFLyjust did sudo screen -u stack -x20:52
* Qlawy reads man sudo20:52
SoFLyi'm user stack now...20:52
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SoFLyi have 1 shell for user stack and 1 for root20:52
SoFLyif i run "screen -x 12402.stack" it returns "Cannot open your terminal /dev/pts/0 - please check.20:53
QlawyOo20:54
Qlawydid I say I dont like devstack?20:54
Qlawy;)20:54
SoFLy:D20:54
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SoFLyi wish i hadn't used it20:54
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Qlawyu r using rhel?20:54
Qlawynvm20:55
SoFLybut was trying to get through a quick proof of concept so that we don't buy some horrible vendor version20:55
SoFLyyah Redhat 6.4 x86_6420:55
Qlawyafter few installation you are doint it in few minutes20:55
SoFLyshould i just bag devstack and do it without?20:55
SoFLydevstack has done nothing but cause bizarre issues since i began working with it (yesterday about the same time in the afternoon)20:56
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QlawySoFLy: it depends how much time do you have ;)20:56
SoFLyhaha20:56
SoFLynot an obscene amount, but I'm sure i could take the rest of the week to get it completely done20:56
QlawySoFLy: but what I can to you…20:56
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SoFLywould have loved if it played nicer with the machine20:56
QlawySoFLy: throw that devstack through the window20:57
SoFLyhshaha20:57
QlawySoFLy: and use openstack from repository20:57
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SoFLyas in just use openstack20:57
SoFLyand not devstack?20:57
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Qlawydevstack should work ootb, but it doesnt this time, so maybe there will be better to try setup normal openstack20:58
Qlawyusing rpms20:58
SoFLyyeah20:58
SoFLyi think i'll go that route20:58
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SoFLyill poke around a bit more but there is a lot going wonky now, not a quick fix20:58
SoFLy:)20:58
SoFLyso sounds like openstack normal may be the way to go20:58
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QlawySoFLy: docs for rhel/fedora are surprisingly good20:59
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Qlawybut honestly... dont use that openstack-config thing... its bizzare for me Oo20:59
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Qlawybizarre*20:59
SoFLyhaha ok21:00
SoFLylooking at their installation docs now21:00
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SoFLythank god their docs say you can use devstack for "proof of concept, learning, or development purposes"21:00
SoFLyill bet you if it didn't someone would put devstack into production21:00
SoFLyhahah21:00
Qlawyhaha xD21:01
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Qlawyall-in-one box from rpms is easy as hell21:01
SoFLyyea21:01
SoFLy:D21:01
SoFLycheers for the help, much appreciated :)21:01
Qlawyno network problems and others ;)21:01
QlawySoFLy: np ;) hf with installation21:01
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QlawySoFLy: and remember, in docs there are some security overkills for POC reasons21:05
SoFLyyeah21:06
SoFLyok21:06
SoFLywill do21:06
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SoFLyill sit around here anyways, IRC is always a great way to get some insight and keep up with it all :)21:07
QlawySoFLy: agree ;)21:07
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QlawySoFLy: if you need, poke me, will try to help21:07
SoFLyok will do! thanks21:07
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KaZeRcan someone enlight me about this quantum issue ? http://ix.io/6YK21:30
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andi-Is there some nova-network (VLAN mode) aware version / addon for the dashboard? I don't want / can't run another (2) servers just for network but also want to use the luxury of the UI to create a new machine..21:42
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KaZeRandi-: maybe in the latest git version of horizon? just a stab in the dark, but they have made a few improvements21:55
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KaZeRmmm. i have this error in my quantum-server 2013-07-31 14:53:28  WARNING [quantum.db.agentschedulers_db] Fail scheduling network {'status': u'ACTIVE', 'subnets': [u'94987702-00e6-4954-bb33-e71b5bf28ada'], 'name': u'demo-net', 'provider:physical_network': None, 'admin_state_up': True, 'tenant_id': u'baf75925e6b24ddd94e341eab6b6463c', 'provider:network_type': u'gre', 'router:external': False, 'shared': False, 'id': u'28a3121a-a3de-420b-b9a0-007121:55
KaZeRf4d8d9df', 'provider:segmentation_id': 1L}21:55
andi-KaZeR: i've seen that there is work going on to make it distributable but I wouldn't want to run the latest (unstable) versoin....21:56
KaZeRbut nothing else.. doesn't help much. anyone has an idea?21:56
KaZeRandi-: i understant. now it depends of what you call unstable :)21:56
andi-stable enough to not touch it within the next 5 months except for hardware failures :P21:57
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KaZeRmmm. though :)22:03
KaZeRs/th/t/22:03
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andi-why must it be so hard to integrate it with multiple already existing vlans ? i'd like to have something like: nova net-create --vlan-id 123 my_legacy_vlan --dont-care-about-my-ips-thanks...22:18
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__Jahkeup__hey there! I'm having an issue trying to get novnc to proxy correctly. right now I get blank screens whenever I try to use the console on horizon22:43
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MACscris there a storage solution that allows me to have storage on the compute nodes, but still support live migration and have some sort of redundancy? Seems ceph uses to much resources to be used on the compute nodes.23:02
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__Jahkeup__MACscr: from what I've seen in Ceph's docs they only recommend 1GB of ram/osd so you could use the compute nodes as the cluster23:10
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__Jahkeup__MACscr: as long as you aren't running a mon on the nodes (which probably wouldn't be the best), you would only "lose" 1G of ram to the daemon23:12
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MACscr__Jahkeup__: from what i have read, the cpu usage is high and also, its one OSD per disk from what i have read23:14
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__Jahkeup__MACscr: yep one osd per disk :) let me check my running osds real quick23:15
MACscrso 3 disks in a node would be 3GB of ram23:16
__Jahkeup__MACscr: if you raid the disks its one osd.23:16
MACscrwhich isnt killer or anything like that23:16
__Jahkeup__I don't have my osds under real load right now23:16
MACscri thought jbod was prefered for ceph23:16
__Jahkeup__in fact its idling23:16
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__Jahkeup__yeah you can do that. in face you could probably use raid card for jbod and it would be happy23:17
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__Jahkeup__MACscr: fwiw I currently have ceph using a partitioned lvm on a storage array so I can't foray too much into that realm but I did consider it23:19
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andi-__Jahkeup__: Short question since i'm also starting to use ceph right now: Are your compute nodes copying the image you create a new node from in the beginning or do they do a proper copy-on-write? I'm running my nodes on 4GB read-only storage and they always want to copy the image to the roofs...23:21
MACscrhmm, my original plan was just to do a storage node with zfs and iscsi, but not im not sure 100% sure thats the best route23:22
__Jahkeup__andi-: mine are doing proper copy-on-write. I have them also mounting cephfs for /var/nova/instances23:22
__Jahkeup__*/var/lib/nova/instances that is23:22
highlifehas anyone here setup swift on devstack and be willing to help me out quick?23:23
andi-i'm not using cephfs at all..23:23
MACscrcephfs isnt production read yet, so not something i would touch either23:23
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__Jahkeup__MACscr: I've had a painless experience with ceph so far, iSCSI + cinder was a real pain in the ass the first time I tried it and the distribution of ceph is great23:23
__Jahkeup__andi-: you only would have to install mds for cephds23:23
__Jahkeup__*cephfs23:23
MACscrmds?23:24
__Jahkeup__andi-: and helps for live migration :)23:24
andi-__Jahkeup__: yep i know, but not seeing a need23:24
__Jahkeup__MACscr: metadata service :)23:24
andi-__Jahkeup__: haven't looked at live migration yet, what excactly is the benefit ?23:24
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__Jahkeup__andi-: you can live migration instances from compute nodes to even load out or get ready for maintenance, etc23:25
KaZeRanyone knows how to fix this error ? WARNING [quantum.db.agentschedulers_db] Fail scheduling network {'status': u'ACTIVE', 'subnets': [u'88f44f7c-9113-4396-8df9-05250474e096'],23:25
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andi-__Jahkeup__: do you mind sharing parts of your nova.conf / glance.conf that are somehow related to the copy on write part ?23:25
__Jahkeup__sure hang on23:26
__Jahkeup__andi-: just glance & nova, not cinder right?23:26
andi-__Jahkeup__: well if cinder plays that game too then cinder aswell :)23:26
andi-__Jahkeup__: i'm just doing this for the 2nd day now.. havent had a real insight in everything yet23:27
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__Jahkeup__andi-: http://pastebin.com/b2PbR2dT23:33
andi-__Jahkeup__: thank you23:33
__Jahkeup__andi-: I remember the `show_image_direct_url = True` directive to be quite important ;)23:33
andi-__Jahkeup__: i added that earlier with hughe expectations but no change :/23:34
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__Jahkeup__andi-: Oh, that's unfortunate. You know perhaps due to my usage of cephfs I don't notice the qcow functionality..23:34
__Jahkeup__andi-: the cephfs mount provides the image caches (cached via glance).23:35
__Jahkeup__andi-: or so I've experienced thus far.23:35
andi-__Jahkeup__: mhm, well it hink it's just time to look through all the settings again and ask: is that really how it should be? -.-23:36
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__Jahkeup__andi-: believe me, that's the best approach, I got stuck several times for days at a time then finally looked it over.. the best of luck to you!23:37
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MACscr__Jahkeup__: dont ya think its a bit risky to be running cephfs? are you just using it in a lab for testing?23:58
__Jahkeup__lab currently, but its seemed stable enough and supports the necessary file/io functions that nova requires so I'm content with it23:59
MACscrwell it might seem that way, but the authors say its not =P23:59

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