| htorbov | Thanks guys. I'm gonna just use this tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1fgBOXpAkU for 12.04 | 00:00 |
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| hesco | I'm building my first openstack cloud. My intended controller node is hosting legacy services which will be migrated into the virtualized environment once its ready. it is currently running Wheezy stable. I'd like to go ahead and put grizzly on the system, but apt-get seems to offer me 2012.1.1-18. Is it possible without completely disrupting my existing system (which hosts my git repo and my puppet master, both of which I hope to | 02:28 |
| hesco | use to build the openstack cloud, for me to use grizzly instead? | 02:28 |
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| dsockwell | hesco: I would personally not try to wedge openstack in on top of existing services | 02:35 |
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| dsockwell | perhaps you can migrate those services onto aws for a while until your openstack node is ready? | 02:35 |
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| dsockwell | that's kind of halfway | 02:36 |
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| dsockwell | should cut down on repeating the work | 02:36 |
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| dsockwell | my personal plan puts puppet and git on aws anyway for recoverability when i inevitably trash openstack, but my installation is pretty much new | 02:38 |
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| hesco | dsockwell: not bad advise, I'm sure. But can I stick with a stable version of debian and still get grizzly from packages? Or will I have to build from source somehow? | 02:39 |
| dsockwell | hesco: the puppet-openstack modules seem to be ok, and gplhost supposedly has a repository for debian | 02:40 |
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| dsockwell | i'm just starting serious plans to deploy openstack as of this week, so i'm afraid i'm not much further along than you | 02:40 |
| dsockwell | gplhost has been active for a number of years, though, i expect they have a good setup | 02:41 |
| hesco | just paid for my second VT-x / kvm capable compute node on ebay less than two hours ago myself. | 02:41 |
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| hesco | expect to accept shipment Friday. | 02:42 |
| dsockwell | neat. i'm still horsing around in VMs on my laptop. | 02:42 |
| dsockwell | company has said they'll get me iron on an hour's notice when i need it though | 02:42 |
| hesco | I'm on a pretty tight budget here. I'm wondering if it is possible to somehow segment a switch so I can use it to support the public network, the private network and the management network in a single 1u slot. | 02:44 |
| hesco | networking would be my weakness going into this project. | 02:44 |
| dsockwell | you'd be using vlans and therefore maybe have troubles with security groups wanting to use 802.1q | 02:45 |
| lifeless | you can just use flat networking | 02:46 |
| dsockwell | not sure how well those double up on any hardware | 02:46 |
| lifeless | will work fine | 02:46 |
| dsockwell | or that | 02:46 |
| lifeless | you don't need vlans - pretty much any router I know of can run multiple subnets on one L2 network | 02:46 |
| hesco | lifeless: what's 'flat networking'? | 02:46 |
| lifeless | all the network security between tenants etc is done by the hypervisor anti-spoofing rules | 02:46 |
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| lifeless | hesco: running on a simple single L2 network | 02:47 |
| dsockwell | so it's more than just throwing all the guests on the same bridge and saying your hail-marys? | 02:47 |
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| dsockwell | that does sound pretty cool. | 02:48 |
| lifeless | dsockwell: it's just a different mapping, simpler, but same basic characteristics | 02:48 |
| hesco | so my public IP's can't nmap my management subnet? or the private network? even though they are on the same switch? | 02:49 |
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| dsockwell | with vlan separation of the networks on the switch and careful management of your ports, i would think not | 02:49 |
| lifeless | hesco: couple of policy routes on your network node, and they can't do anything | 02:50 |
| hesco | I'm thinking that the dnsmasq will provide dhcpd services and I need not invest in a router, but can use a switch. Is that fuzzy headed of me? | 02:50 |
| lifeless | hesco: all you need is to say that traffic from <public ip range> to any internal range is administratively rejected | 02:50 |
| lifeless | hesco: neutron does all dhcpd for you | 02:51 |
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| dsockwell | hesco: what switch do you already have? | 02:51 |
| hesco | right now the two physical hosts which are alraedy racked up at the DC are using a consumer appliance router. | 02:51 |
| hesco | I will need to purchase a switch for this project. | 02:52 |
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| dsockwell | ok. a l3 switch is probably out of scope for you, so having the switch police traffic between domains on the same vlan is out | 02:52 |
| lifeless | there's really no need for hardware policies here | 02:52 |
| lifeless | tenants cannot create provider networks | 02:53 |
| dsockwell | that leaves you with host-based rules on the appropriate devices | 02:53 |
| dsockwell | or vlans | 02:53 |
| lifeless | and only your provider network / external network will emit traffic onto your lan | 02:53 |
| hesco | Do I need a distinct port on the switch heading out upstream for each public IP? Or is there some way to map it all across a single connection? | 02:53 |
| lifeless | just a simple switch | 02:53 |
| lifeless | plug your uplink into one point | 02:53 |
| lifeless | and configure your neutron network node to have a default route via that | 02:53 |
| dsockwell | your networking component should act as a router to manage your public-facing traffic | 02:53 |
| dsockwell | whether that's neutron or something older | 02:54 |
| lifeless | add iptables rules to your neutron network node prohibiting -s PUBLIC_IPS -d <internal subnets> | 02:54 |
| lifeless | done | 02:54 |
| hesco | ok, iptables I do know how to write. | 02:54 |
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| hesco | I've been reading the Operations Guide this past week. It (and apt-cache) talk about nova-network. I'm guessing from the context here that neutron is a nextgen network manager for open stack. Would that be right? | 02:58 |
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| dsockwell | hesco: yes | 03:00 |
| dsockwell | it's new since essex (the version on wheezy) | 03:00 |
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| hesco | So one option I'm looking at is this: SMC Networks SMC Tiger 10/100/1000BASE-T SMC8126L2 24-Ports Switch | 03:06 |
| hesco | I'm guessing from what you suggest above, that this might do the trick for me. | 03:07 |
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| dsockwell | your most demanding requirement would be vlans. most any managed switch would be fine. | 03:08 |
| dsockwell | that's assuming you go with layer2 separation and not iptables | 03:08 |
| dsockwell | smc makes good gear in either case, i see nothing wrong with that choice | 03:08 |
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| hesco | this is the other option: Nortel BayStack 425-24T 24 Port 10/100/1000 GBIC FireWire Wired Network Switch#2 | 03:11 |
| D30 | hello guys good day,,.. just want to ask.. how can we set cpu allocation and ram allocation ratio ni openstack? i already installed openstack but dont know how to set ratio | 03:12 |
| dsockwell | link? | 03:12 |
| dsockwell | hesco: the baylink is 24x 100BaseTx and then 2 flex ports for either a mini-gbic or 1000BaseT | 03:13 |
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| hesco | http://reviews.cnet.com/switches/nortel-baystack-425-24t/4507-6432_7-30634985.html | 03:14 |
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| leons | Hello | 03:15 |
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| leons | Anyone willing to field a OpenStack Quantum/Neutron question? | 03:16 |
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| m4nu | sure leons, shoot | 03:22 |
| dsockwell | leons, just shout it out next time and wait for someone to see it. | 03:24 |
| leons | hey, thanks | 03:24 |
| leons | m4nu dsockwell | 03:24 |
| leons | Sorry was getting a printout | 03:24 |
| leons | So I have an unmanaged switch. Does my physical switch need to support VLANs to used with OpenStack vSwitch? | 03:25 |
| leons | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/4787/should-physical-switch-ports-be-vlan-trunks/ | 03:25 |
| dsockwell | ime an unmanaged switch will pass 802.1q packets without any foolishness | 03:26 |
| dsockwell | it might depend on your switch in particular | 03:26 |
| m4nu | leons dsockwell: some do, some mangle them | 03:26 |
| m4nu | leons: What exactly are you trying to do? Will GRE tunnels work for you? Do you need VLANs? | 03:27 |
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| m4nu | leons: I've found that it's worth just getting a switch that supports VLAN tagging and not having to worry about debugging switch issues. | 03:27 |
| m4nu | leons: also, using a dumb switch kinda defeats the purpose of VLAN tags. | 03:27 |
| leons | Well, in OpenStack, I will have ServiceNet, PublicNet, and Intranet | 03:27 |
| leons | So I am wondering how much I need to configure in hardware and how much I leave to OpenStack guy to configure | 03:28 |
| leons | I am setting up the physical rack | 03:28 |
| m4nu | leons: is this leons from Menlo Park? | 03:28 |
| leons | Manu? | 03:28 |
| m4nu | leons: haha | 03:28 |
| leons | LMAO | 03:28 |
| leons | Yes | 03:28 |
| leons | I am in the office | 03:29 |
| m4nu | leons: Yeah, don't worry about it - I'll set it up when I get into the office tomorrow :P | 03:29 |
| m4nu | seriously... hilarious. | 03:29 |
| leons | Manu, cool. Cables and everything? | 03:29 |
| leons | lol | 03:29 |
| leons | I know | 03:29 |
| m4nu | leons: We're going to try using GRE tunnels w/ the new switch. | 03:29 |
| m4nu | leons: so, don't worry about VLAN anything. | 03:29 |
| leons | Okay. I'll move to private IRC | 03:30 |
| leons | One sec | 03:30 |
| dsockwell | hahaha you two work together? | 03:30 |
| dsockwell | priceless | 03:30 |
| m4nu | yeah | 03:30 |
| leons | Yes | 03:30 |
| leons | LMAO | 03:30 |
| leons | :) | 03:30 |
| m4nu | leons: gimme a sec to get my private intranet IRC channel setup | 03:30 |
| leons | oh okay | 03:31 |
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| todayman | I'm using nova-network from grizzly on ubuntu 13.04. In nova.conf, fixed_range is set to a /16, but the address on the bridge gets set to a /24. Where should I start looking to fix this? | 04:33 |
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| fifieldt_ | guessing you already checked in nova.conf for network_size= | 04:35 |
| fifieldt_ | if so | 04:35 |
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| todayman | fifieldt_: nope, not yet | 04:36 |
| fifieldt_ | if you've got the credentials for the database handy, jump in there and have a look for the line in the networks table | 04:36 |
| fifieldt_ | the size is set when you create the network | 04:36 |
| fifieldt_ | not sure if grizzly had the tool to update that | 04:36 |
| fifieldt_ | I could be giving you bad information - I have used about 3 different versions of openstack today :) | 04:36 |
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| todayman | I'll sete if setting network size does anything first | 04:37 |
| todayman | That appears to do the trick. Thank you very much. | 04:38 |
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| fifieldt_ | no worries todayman, enjoy | 04:41 |
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| t4nk312 | Hi. In this guide -> http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/yum/content/ compute node has the network node as gateway. Following this configuration node1 doesn't ping external networks (internet). Is this correct? | 07:37 |
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| Qlawy | what is responsible for attaching volumes to vms by cinder? (lets say that hypervisor is kvm) | 08:14 |
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| Qlawy | oh, I suppose I found it | 08:16 |
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| stan_bg | Hello, is there any good guide about creating and deploying extensions for OpenStack? | 08:43 |
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| stan_bg | Hello, is there any good guide about creating and deploying extensions for OpenStack? | 08:56 |
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| krypto | is it possible auto scale vms horizontally in grizzly release | 09:11 |
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| proffalken | hey all, I'm trying to configure logging using the python logging backend and a logging_config file but keep hitting an issue about resolving relative url 'config:api-paste.ini' has anyone else seen this?> | 09:18 |
| hugokuo | Is the Hong Kong session list out ? | 09:19 |
| yaguang | hugokuo, is this you are looking for http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/ | 09:21 |
| hugokuo | yaguang: yes, thx | 09:21 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I have a problem with vnc console. Someone can help me with the configuration files in the controller and compute nodes? | 10:07 |
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| ntt_ | (I receive a 1006 failed to connect to the server error) | 10:07 |
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| Gargarozz | hi! | 10:15 |
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| Gargarozz | i've just made a simple utility, and I'd like to share it with the community | 10:20 |
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| Gargarozz | I've put it here | 10:21 |
| reidrac | I recommend you posting to the mailing list | 10:21 |
| Gargarozz | https://sites.google.com/site/showmynetworkstate/ | 10:21 |
| Gargarozz | ok thak you! | 10:23 |
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| Guest34781 | hey rush | 12:25 |
| Guest34781 | can i build my own cloud with OpenStack ? | 12:25 |
| Guest34781 | or is it software that you connect to your cloud to perform extra activities ? | 12:26 |
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| proffalken | Guest34781: Openstack is for your to build your own cloud. | 12:26 |
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| dot | is there any keystone php example for openstack | 13:39 |
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| wahly | i'm testing gluster for storage. it looks like the compute nodes are just mounting whatever is defined as the mount source on the control node. i intend for each compute node to participate in the gluster "cluster". is it possible (or does it even make sense) to mount the gluster share locally on each compute node instead of defaulting to whatever the controller node is using? | 14:25 |
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| koolhead17 | jaypipes: ping | 14:32 |
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| blinky_ghost | Hi can anybody explain me what's the best way to implement dynamic dns updates with dnsmasq in quantum. I want to automatically create a DNS entry on my dns server when I launch a new instance | 14:57 |
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| randy2009 | Hi, someone know if it's possible to install openstack on RHEL6.4? | 15:08 |
| randy2009 | I tried to install it but ran acros this problem: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/5780/installation-of-devstack-on-rhel/?answer=5786#post-id-5786 | 15:08 |
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| wahly | randy2009: i'm running OpenStack on RHEL6.4 | 15:14 |
| wahly | not using devstack though | 15:14 |
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| wahly | this is (slightly outdated at this point, but i'll rectify that soon-ish) the puppet module i'm using to configure multi-node on rhel6.4: https://github.com/drwahl/puppet-openstack | 15:15 |
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| jrwren | blinky_ghost: we edit/generate a bind zone file on ever launch a new instance, and request reload of bind. i.e. a script to launch a new instance for you which does other stuff too | 15:39 |
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| htorbov | Since I don't have second NIC on my node, can I use this /etc/network/interfaces configuration as OpenStack private networking? auto eth0:1 \ iface eth0:1 \ inet static address 10.1.0.0 | 15:50 |
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| wahly | htorbov: i believe that should work, so long as you have the correct "physnet" statements in quantum | 15:54 |
| wahly | such as: sudo grep physnet /etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini | 15:55 |
| wahly | network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:1:4094 | 15:55 |
| wahly | bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-eth1 | 15:55 |
| htorbov | Well, I'm gonna use a git auto installation | 15:55 |
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| htorbov | The installation didn't reply with any errors, I already logged into the syspanel | 15:56 |
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| htorbov | I'm asking because the original guide tells that it needs to be: auto eth1 \ iface eth1 inet manual \ up ifconfig eth1 up | 15:56 |
| htorbov | But I don't have eth1... | 15:56 |
| wahly | i haven't done the "auto-installs", so i'm not going to be of much help. i've set everything up through a puppet module i created | 15:57 |
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| htorbov | I'm just gonna put some NIC to be sure everything will be alright :-) Thanks anyway! | 15:58 |
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| Kupo24z | Hey all, how do you move services to different hosts? I want to move glance and cinder off my controller node but im just getting error 500's in horizon when i do it, the 'services' page lists the old ip as well | 17:25 |
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| ArxCruz | ALL: I have a F19 image on my server (manually installed with netinstall, not the fedora cloud image), and if I run nova boot --image to create a new vm, it works fine, however if I add --key_name, it stays stucked in build phase, does anyone know how to fix it ? | 18:47 |
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| j__ | hey ya'll question | 19:13 |
| j__ | so we are looking to switch from vmware to openstack (mainly due to listening fees). question i have is, is there a vmware view manager equivalent in openstack? | 19:13 |
| j__ | How we use it is: a bunch of users connect to the vmware view manager and then the connection server gives the user a vm. I don't know if keystone can do this, or if the user has to manually select a vm to use | 19:13 |
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| monst | is there anyway to see progress of a openstack snapshot in folsom? | 19:53 |
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| monst | watch 'nova image-list|grep SAVING' is what im doing to see when they finish | 19:54 |
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| elextro | Hello! | 20:57 |
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| elextro | My rabbitmq server is becoming more and more resource intensive as I use OpenStack. Is there a way I can flush the queues without effecting the entire infrastructure? | 20:58 |
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| jfarschman | Availability Zones - Does the Grizzly Dashboard have the ability to let a user choose an Availability Zone? | 21:43 |
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| jfarschman | Or do you have to use the CLI to spin these up? | 21:43 |
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| amotoki | jfarschman: grizzly dashboard does not support AZ. It is a new feature of Havana Dashboard. | 21:45 |
| jfarschman | amotoki: oh… interesting. I wonder if I can use a Havana dashboard with my Grizzly install :) | 21:45 |
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| amotoki | jfarschman: while I haven't tested it, there is no reason it doesn't work from the horizon developer view. | 21:46 |
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| jfarschman | amotoki: that's kind of what I was thinking. It likely works, and at the only real way to know is to try. | 21:47 |
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| adil452100 | hello | 21:47 |
| adil452100 | discount codes for HongKong design summit ? | 21:47 |
| adil452100 | please :) | 21:47 |
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| amotoki | jfarschman: horizon team inlcuding me believe havana dashboard is compatible with grizzly. If it doesnt work, let us know. | 21:49 |
| jfarschman | I'm going to do it. Thanks amotoki. | 21:49 |
| adil452100 | Please ... Have you any discount code for HongKong design summit ? | 21:50 |
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| jfcastro | hi! is there a IRC room specific of swift? | 21:55 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: what are you looking to ask about? | 21:55 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: dev or running it? | 21:55 |
| jfcastro | running ;) | 21:56 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: then this is a great channel :-) | 21:56 |
| jfcastro | I only want to know if I can deploy swift with 2 storage nodes | 21:56 |
| jfcastro | notmyname: ok, thanks :) | 21:56 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: #openstack-swift exists, but it's mostly for contributors to discuss swift's code | 21:56 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: yes, absolutely. you can run swift on 2 servers. what replication are you looking at using? how many drives does each server have? | 21:57 |
| jfcastro | notmyname: then it's a high level to me :p | 21:57 |
| jfcastro | I want deploy a object storage but I would like begin with 2 nodes whitin one DC | 21:57 |
| jfcastro | can I replicate all objects? | 21:58 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: how many replicas do you want (I recommend 3) | 21:58 |
| jfcastro | notmyname: can I do it whit only 2? | 21:58 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: yes, swift uses replication for all of the data stored in it | 21:58 |
| jfcastro | notmyname: like a RAID-1 :) | 21:59 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: yes, you can use just 2 replicas, but you'll have less durability | 21:59 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: note that swift doesn't mirror data | 21:59 |
| notmyname | jfcastro: how many data drives does each server have? | 22:00 |
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| jfcastro | notmyname: maybe 4 drives; I'm not sure yet | 22:00 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: ok, so if you have 8 drives total, you can have 3 replicas. if you use 4T drives, you'll have about 10TB of usable space in your swift cluster | 22:01 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: and swift will ensure that the replicas are placed across different drives (with at least one replica on each server) | 22:01 |
| comptona | is there any way for an instance to know the name of the user who launched it? | 22:01 |
| comptona | I'd like to add some logic to my images that automatically makes the launch user receive any email the instance generates | 22:02 |
| jfcastro | notmyname: and why 3 replicas in 2 nodes? 0_0 | 22:02 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: think of it as 3 replicas across 8 drives | 22:04 |
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| dsockwell | like a giant distributed raidz2 | 22:04 |
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| jfcastro | notmyname: ok, maybe I must read more about swift. Any doc recommended? | 22:05 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: the 2 servers give you some degree of high availability (and more servers is better), but Swift's data placement works by knowing the failure domains (region, zone, server, drive) | 22:05 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: http://swiftstack.com/openstack-swift/ and http://swift.openstack.org and http://docs.openstack.org | 22:10 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: (sorry airport wireless is slow. I might be able to get more specific links, but those are some good top-level starting points) | 22:11 |
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| jfcastro | notmyname: yes, I know this docs. But I'll review deeper | 22:12 |
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| notmyname | jfcastro: anything you are looking for specifically? there are some videos and blog posts and architecture docs off that first link that go more in-depth | 22:12 |
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| jfcastro | notmyname: ok, perfect! Thanks a lot | 22:13 |
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