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| Qu310 | I'm using the ubuntu repo, Anyone else seeing in Horizon w/ Havana when Launching Instance, using Boot from image (creates new volume) option the users instances page errors out? but the instance launches and is visable under the admin "instances page"? | 00:56 |
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| Qu310 | which seems to error out around talking about /openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/instances/views.py in get_data, line 92, which looks to me talking about trying to get the Image Name | 00:57 |
| Qu310 | boot from image seems to work fine | 00:57 |
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| jgriffith | Qu310: yes, seems to be a bug in Horizon perhaps | 02:21 |
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| jgriffith | Qu310: Aha.. you beat me to it logging the bug :) | 02:24 |
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| hugokuo | how's going hk_peter ? | 05:53 |
| hugokuo | Are you the developer of Pandora box ? | 05:53 |
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| hugokuo | huh... Seems OpenStack is still not hot enough in Asia. Not too many ppls speaking over here. | 05:54 |
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| AliRezaTaleghani | I am still confused on network configuration | 06:08 |
| AliRezaTaleghani | with flatDHCP network | 06:09 |
| AliRezaTaleghani | acctualy I don't know where I should learn more about networking infreastructure | 06:09 |
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| AliRezaTaleghani | and technical resons on why things should to do | 06:09 |
| AliRezaTaleghani | like br-add br-int | 06:10 |
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| htorbov | I'm trying to use oz-image-build to build images for OpenStack. When I try "make precise" I get an error: oz.OzException.OzException: Unsupported Ubuntu update 12.04 | 06:41 |
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| KrisK19 | Hello | 06:45 |
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| KrisK19 | is there anyone who is using token authentication for neutron calls | 06:45 |
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| KrisK19 | to skip generating a tons of other tokens | 06:45 |
| KrisK19 | for user neutron ? | 06:46 |
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| sleeping_dragon | quick random question: anyone here use a lot of HAProxy with their openstacking? | 06:53 |
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| beddari | sleeping_dragon: I'd answer that for you, "yes" | 06:59 |
| beddari | sleeping_dragon: ;-) | 06:59 |
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| sleeping_dragon | beddari: awesome, mind if i pick your brain for a little? | 07:03 |
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| beddari | no problem, what is it? but #haproxy would possibly be a better place | 07:06 |
| sleeping_dragon | i'm building a bunch of different web APIs, and wondering if there's any built in way in openstack for me to do a reverse proxy configuration and mapping to them | 07:06 |
| sleeping_dragon | haproxy i understand :) i'm just hoping i don't have to write it myself ;) | 07:06 |
| beddari | built in? I don't think so, why? you could just use whatever reverse proxy you are comfy with | 07:06 |
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| beddari | we do this using Puppet of course | 07:07 |
| sleeping_dragon | well i want to be able to spin up a whole set of instances and an haproxy to reverse proxy for them all at once | 07:07 |
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| sleeping_dragon | hrm, so you deploy an instance, then run puppet to make the haproxy.conf after that? | 07:07 |
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| sleeping_dragon | some of the load balancing as a service stuff looked promising... but not quite it | 07:08 |
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| sgran | sleeping_dragon: the way to do this is to use heat, and declare an autoscaling group with associated loadbalancer | 07:09 |
| beddari | well we do it kind of dynamically .. when we enter data into Hiera to assing an app server role to a node haproxy will pick up the refreshed data next run | 07:09 |
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| sleeping_dragon | sgran: that was the other thread i was tugging on, heat seemed promising as well | 07:10 |
| sleeping_dragon | but it didn't seem to be able to route by URL? | 07:10 |
| sleeping_dragon | seemed a little flatter than that and at a lower level | 07:10 |
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| sleeping_dragon | beddari: that seems pretty cool :) | 07:11 |
| beddari | sure but it is not 'the openstack way' as pointed out | 07:12 |
| sleeping_dragon | yeah i want to be able to spin up a logical "application" which is like an instance running some static content, and a couple of instances running some restful endpoints, | 07:12 |
| beddari | but I much perfer having loadbalancing be something out of Puppet/OS-level .. | 07:12 |
| sleeping_dragon | and do it all at once, and have the network topology put into haproxy automatically, and say if it's /api/a go to instance for that api instance, or otherwise go to the static assets | 07:13 |
| sgran | sleeping_dragon: no, it does not have features like that | 07:13 |
| sleeping_dragon | sgran: thanks :) sometimes it's hard to figure out something won't do :) i just hope that someone else is wanting to do the same thing i do, or better yet, has done it :) | 07:13 |
| sleeping_dragon | it feels like something heat would do, doing that kind of orchestration | 07:14 |
| beddari | yeah but I think those endpoint routing features you want are not there yet | 07:14 |
| sleeping_dragon | that yet sounds hopeful :) | 07:14 |
| sgran | well, we have one application stack that combines the two features. There is a load balancer in the front, load balancing across several servers that route by URL to a selection of other load balancers, each of which load balance across their backends | 07:14 |
| sgran | in other words, we treat the ones that do intelligent routing as servers, not as appliances, and configure them ourselves | 07:15 |
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| sleeping_dragon | sgran: sounds like a delicious haproxy cake | 07:15 |
| sgran | pretty much :) | 07:15 |
| sleeping_dragon | i kind of want to be able to "pick and choose", like have a proxy which can pick some maybe existing instances, or spin up new ones (for development) that is completely isolated | 07:16 |
| beddari | chef, puppet, cfengine, ansible :) take a pick hehe | 07:16 |
| sleeping_dragon | mostly i'm trying to avoid cross site scripting | 07:16 |
| sleeping_dragon | yeah i've done something similar on ansible before like this, well pretty much exactly this | 07:17 |
| sleeping_dragon | but not on openstack | 07:17 |
| beddari | no diff, should there be? Isn't it a point if you had this, that it worked anywhere? | 07:17 |
| sleeping_dragon | true, but in one i already know the IP addresses of the machines i'm routing to, and it's fairly static | 07:18 |
| sleeping_dragon | but doing it in openstack, i'm not sure how i would know the topology | 07:18 |
| beddari | by already stating the topology as data to your cfg mgmt :) | 07:18 |
| beddari | so the question becomes, "where is your authorative data" hehe | 07:19 |
| sleeping_dragon | sounds good, now how do i figure out that topology? | 07:19 |
| * sleeping_dragon laughs | 07:19 | |
| sleeping_dragon | indeed | 07:19 |
| beddari | ;-) | 07:19 |
| sleeping_dragon | i've got it stored in some write only memory so far | 07:19 |
| beddari | I have no experience w heat myself so I'm basically worthless if you want the openstack way | 07:19 |
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| sleeping_dragon | i'm clueless about openstack and heat for that matter :) | 07:20 |
| sleeping_dragon | i guess i'm more used to jenkins and ansible, but i'm trying out the openstack :) | 07:20 |
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| sleeping_dragon | it seems really super cool | 07:20 |
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| beddari | yeah for me I can finally take control over another layer with code | 07:21 |
| beddari | provisioning and storage in git, win! | 07:21 |
| sleeping_dragon | that's exactly what i'm trying to get to | 07:21 |
| beddari | at some point that will be networking too | 07:21 |
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| sleeping_dragon | sgran: so how would i do something like this in heat? it sounds like it's not really possible? | 07:22 |
| sleeping_dragon | also thank you both for your help | 07:22 |
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| sgran | heat just gives you a templated way to describe your architecture, and also gives you autoscaling groups and loadbalancer integration | 07:23 |
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| sgran | if you just have lots of single instances, it might be more overhead than you need | 07:24 |
| sgran | I would approach it as just a normal "how do I architect this" problem, but with the added complexity of needing to dynamically build the list of things to route to | 07:25 |
| sgran | which most config management systems have a way to deal with - puppet has stored configs, eg | 07:25 |
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| sleeping_dragon | does heat work over multiple instances? like i need two instances of this image and one of this? (so far the examples I've seen aren't that complicated) | 07:26 |
| sleeping_dragon | well right now I'm just trying to do a proof of concept, so i'm jumping into this trickiest problem first to see how it looks | 07:26 |
| sleeping_dragon | i'm also kind of wondering how to get the networking information out of an instance easily to be able to get it into puppet or any other config system | 07:27 |
| sleeping_dragon | like i'm hoping to use something like jenkins, do a build, then spin up all the instances, and run puppet to do the deploy in one big job shot | 07:27 |
| sleeping_dragon | if that makes sense | 07:27 |
| * sleeping_dragon looks at her pipe, and wonders what might be in it with talk like that. | 07:28 | |
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| randy2009 | Hi, i want to try openstack, if i go to openstack the only option to install internaly is to use devstack. On devstack i see this in the faq: | 07:30 |
| randy2009 | Q: Can I use DevStack for production? | 07:30 |
| randy2009 | A: No. We mean it. Really. DevStack makes some implementation choices that are not appropriate for production deployments. We warned you! | 07:30 |
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| randy2009 | is there a way to use openstack localy with a "stable" version | 07:31 |
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| sleeping_dragon | randy2009: i think it's stable (at least from me using it) but it's just not configured the same way you would a multi-node system | 07:32 |
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| Ile | localy as you want to install openstack on one virtual machine? | 07:32 |
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| randy2009 | yup and control multiple vcenter servers | 07:33 |
| randy2009 | i have several vcenter servers (all limited to 3 hosts) and want to use openstack to let customers of mine be able to request vm's through openstack. | 07:34 |
| xqueralt | randy2009, if your intention is not to use it for development, I'd suggest using RDO | 07:35 |
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| xqueralt | randy2009, http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 07:35 |
| randy2009 | RDO> | 07:35 |
| randy2009 | ? | 07:35 |
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| randy2009 | ah | 07:36 |
| randy2009 | check | 07:36 |
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| randy2009 | i'll look @ it | 07:36 |
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| xqueralt | randy2009, it's quite easy to perform a multi-node deployment with it, just follow the QuickStart | 07:38 |
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| randy2009 | i found something like "Chef", anybody know what pro's openstack has (against "Chef") | 07:40 |
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| Ile | chef is just automation software | 07:41 |
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| randy2009 | but has a provisioning layer | 07:42 |
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| AliRezaTaleghani | do u mean that chef is some what like packstack via RDO repo? | 07:44 |
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| proffalken | chef and openstack are completely different beasts | 07:45 |
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| proffalken | we use Chef to configure OpenStack | 07:45 |
| randy2009 | Chef is automation software but it also control's vcenter servers to deploy vm's | 07:45 |
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| proffalken | there are plugins for the chef CLI tool (knife) to create new vms in OpenStack/VMWare/etc and automatically configure them, but aside from knowing how to talk to the API, Chef knows *nothing* about virtualisation | 07:46 |
| sleeping_dragon | proffalken: loved you in Wargames, also, good question | 07:47 |
| proffalken | Chef is an excellent replacement for all those bash scripts that we all used to write and run by hand on each box | 07:47 |
| proffalken | sleeping_dragon: :) | 07:47 |
| proffalken | but it does not do virtualisation on it's own | 07:47 |
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| Ile | now that we are talking about chef. is there an easy starting guide for chef and openstack | 07:48 |
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| proffalken | Ile: https://github.com/opscode/openstack-chef-repo contains the cookbooks | 07:49 |
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| randy2009 | Ok, but when using knife to create new vm's, why to add OpenStack and not use chef -> Knife -> Vmware? | 07:49 |
| htorbov | Can I somehow use http://www.vagrantbox.es/ for OpenStack images? Since they have pretty big library of images. | 07:49 |
| proffalken | Ile: depending on the size of your installation, you'll probably also need to setup and configure a chef server (http://docs.opscode.com/chef_overview.html or https://getchef.opscode.com/signup) | 07:50 |
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| proffalken | randy2009: no reason at all, it depends if you want to use Openstack to drive VMWare or not | 07:50 |
| Ile | it'd just be maybe 2 nodes so i can test it out and learn, so nothing big | 07:51 |
| [1]sam | What is the big advantage, if any, to use openstack over vcenter?\ | 07:51 |
| proffalken | Ile: in that case checkout some of the vagrant cookbooks etc. hang on, I'll try and dig something out for you | 07:51 |
| Ile | thanks | 07:51 |
| randy2009 | sam: You took the words right out of my mouth | 07:52 |
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| proffalken | [1]sam, randy2009: I can't ansewer that, I've not used VMWare | 07:54 |
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| proffalken | I'm sure that others on here will be able to though | 07:54 |
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| [1]sam | thx for your reply | 07:56 |
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| [1]sam | we are looking for alternatives | 07:56 |
| [1]sam | mainly to automate the provisioning layer | 07:56 |
| proffalken | Ile: can't find the link I was after, however http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/pragmatic-devops-how-to-create-your-first-environment-with-chef-and-vagrant/ seems like a good place to start | 07:59 |
| Ile | awesome, thanks | 07:59 |
| proffalken | np | 07:59 |
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| RaviTezu | Hi, I'm having a single node which runs nova,glance,cinder,quantum,keystone.. now i want to add another node which run nova and cinder...any idea how this can be achieved? | 08:01 |
| RaviTezu | I've installed nova and cinder on the second node.. but nova-mange service list is listing only nova on second node and cinder is not listed. | 08:01 |
| RaviTezu | from horizon.. which is installed on first node. it is not at all showing the second node under system info. | 08:02 |
| RaviTezu | any idea? | 08:02 |
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| proffalken | RaviTezu: is the second node configured to talk to the database/messsagequeue/etc. on the first host? If not, that's probably where you want to start looking | 08:04 |
| RaviTezu | ugh, may be i'm doing it wrong. nova-manage is only for nova related services. | 08:04 |
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| RaviTezu | proffalken: i have qpid running on first node.. and second is configured with the same | 08:04 |
| proffalken | RaviTezu: ok, let's get this clear - the second node is running a *local* version of qpid or it is connecting to qpid on the *first* node? | 08:05 |
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| RaviTezu | it is connecting to qpid on the first node. | 08:05 |
| proffalken | ok. is it talking to the database on the first node also? | 08:05 |
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| RaviTezu | yes. | 08:06 |
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| proffalken | hmm, ok, then I can't help... :( | 08:07 |
| proffalken | RaviTezu: http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html might be of some help? | 08:07 |
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| RaviTezu | thanks | 08:08 |
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| htorbov | From where I can download Debian cloud image for OpenStack? | 08:26 |
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| kwadronaut | htorbov: have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Cloud and http://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/ (I build my own) | 08:33 |
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| htorbov | Thanks! I'll look now. | 08:36 |
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| htorbov | BTW, can I build image from my Rackspace account and use it on OpenStack? | 08:37 |
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| rossk | htorbov: not that I know of | 08:39 |
| rossk | at best, you can use Ansible to automate the deployment of your image in Rackspace and Openstack | 08:40 |
| htorbov | No, actually, even a better way - install on VM and export the img file? Is it going to work? | 08:40 |
| rossk | afaik rackspace does not support exporting vms | 08:40 |
| rossk | nor do they support moving vms between datacenters | 08:40 |
| htorbov | Yeah, I just tried.. what about if I use VM on my local machine to create image files? | 08:41 |
| kwadronaut | you could, but there are some 'buts' and pitfalls, not all terribly well documented. | 08:41 |
| kwadronaut | but there's documentation actually on how to do that on openstacks site. | 08:42 |
| rossk | I've built VMs on my local system using kvm | 08:42 |
| rossk | both centos and ubuntu | 08:42 |
| rossk | then uploaded to Glance (Openstack) | 08:42 |
| rossk | and its worked fine | 08:42 |
| rossk | there's moderately useful docs on the openstack site on building custom images | 08:43 |
| rossk | but as far as rackspace, I've just used automated deployment systems | 08:43 |
| htorbov | I'll try KVM now. But what about the disk partitioning, networking, password etc? Is Glance automating it? | 08:43 |
| htorbov | Since I want to use OpenStack for cloud hosting service. | 08:44 |
| danci1973 | Hello... Being a newbie to 'clouds' and coming from 'traditional' (Xen) virtualization with simple local and/or shared storage, I don't quite understand the concept of three different storages in OpenStack - Switft (Object storage), Cinder (Block storage) and Glance (image service)? What is each used for? | 08:44 |
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| BobBall | danci1973: Easiest is swift - it just stores a "blob" - could be an image, could be a virtual disk, but it's a single file with no file system. | 08:46 |
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| BobBall | Glance can use swift as the back-end and is used to store virtual disks and allow them to be downloaded by Nova; but you can use other things as the backend for glance too | 08:47 |
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| BobBall | Cinder can provide a disk directly to the VM, accessed over the network, so you can have persistant volumes (including to boot-from-volume) rather than the ephemeral volumes which are what is typically managed by Glance and Nova | 08:48 |
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| danci1973 | BobBall: So if I wanted a 'more persistant' VM (say a mail or web server for my organization), Cinder would be a good choice? | 08:55 |
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| BobBall | sure - although if you want the disks to be treated as non-ephemeral then you don't have to delete VMs and they can stay running on the local system (until migrated of course) - it's just that the "standard" is if the hypervisor (and I'd say keep using Xen!) dies then instances are simply started up on another one. With local disks they disappear without some form of DR, but with network-accessed disks through Cinder then they are still available | 08:57 |
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| danci1973 | BobBall: Thank you very much... | 09:03 |
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| RaviTezu | root@cm-kvm04:~ # cinder-manage host list | 09:07 |
| RaviTezu | host zone | 09:07 |
| RaviTezu | terminator01.skynet.com nova 02.skynet.com nova | 09:07 |
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| RaviTezu | when i run cinder-manage host list(from cmd line) on the controller node.. it is listing both the cinder nodes | 09:09 |
| RaviTezu | but the horizon isn't listing the second cinder node. | 09:09 |
| RaviTezu | any idea? | 09:09 |
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| decede | Hello, when booting an image I'm seeing an SeaBIOS/iPXE "Booting from Hard Disk..." message in the console but it never boots any pointers on where to look for issues? | 09:25 |
| decede | This is on Grizzly with KVM as the hypervisor | 09:25 |
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| verdurin | How do I translate the 'hostId' field in 'nova show' on Grizzly to a physical host address? | 09:31 |
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| decede | verdurin: to a network address for the instance or the nova-compute node thats running the instance? | 09:44 |
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| kupigon | What's the easiest way to create image file for OpenStack? Is it with KVM? If so, are those articles the right ones: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/buildbot-setup-for-virtual-machines/ | 09:45 |
| decede | kupigon: easiest way is to download an existing image from somwhere like http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/release/ | 09:46 |
| kupigon | Yes, but I want also distributions, that doesn't have official cloud images like Debian, FreeBSD, Gentoo etc. | 09:47 |
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| geordish | http://terrarum.net/administration/creating-a-gentoo-cloud-image.html | 09:48 |
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| geordish | http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/bundling-freebsd-image-for-openstack/ | 09:49 |
| decede | debian has a script to create them `build-openstack-debian-image` | 09:49 |
| kupigon | Yes, I already saw those, but finally I've found these articles and they look pretty simple, I'm hoping that they'll work. | 09:50 |
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| kupigon | Because they've been described 10+ distributions there | 09:50 |
| decede | cool | 09:50 |
| verdurin | decede: the latter - the nova-compute node running the instance | 09:51 |
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| Madkiss | on ubuntu 12.04, after installing all the heat packages, files like /etc/heat/heat-api-paste.ini | 10:16 |
| Madkiss | are missing | 10:16 |
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| Madkiss | where would they be? | 10:16 |
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| sgran | should they exist? | 10:20 |
| sgran | I don't have them | 10:20 |
| Madkiss | how did you set up heat to talk to keystone then? | 10:20 |
| sgran | /etc/heat/heat-api.conf:[keystone_authtoken[ | 10:21 |
| sgran | /etc/heat/heat-api.conf:[keystone_authtoken], even | 10:21 |
| Madkiss | and you need to create that paragraph, right? | 10:21 |
| sgran | yes | 10:21 |
| sgran | that's my memory | 10:21 |
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| Madkiss | could I get an anonymized copy of your heat.conf without passwords and tokens so I can figure out what I may have to configure? I didn't find any usable documentation for the stuff :( | 10:22 |
| Madkiss | http://openstack.redhat.com/Deploy_Heat_and_launch_your_first_Application | 10:22 |
| sgran | no, I reverse engineered some of it | 10:22 |
| Madkiss | indicates i would have to modify a whole lot of settings | 10:22 |
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| Madkiss | but many of them are not even there anymore | 10:23 |
| Madkiss | there's a heat-engine.conf for instance | 10:23 |
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| sgran | Madkiss: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4f45840b/ | 10:29 |
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| Madkiss | sgran: thank you very much :) | 10:29 |
| sgran | anything in <> indicates a need to modify for your environment | 10:29 |
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| Madkiss | all the heat-api-*.conf files had to be created by you, right? | 10:30 |
| sgran | the '32 character random string' should be the same in the two files it's mentioned in - it's used for symmetric encrypt/decrypt | 10:30 |
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| sgran | no, I think they appeared when I installed the packages | 10:30 |
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| sgran | but I also might have some leftover from earlier tries at heat | 10:30 |
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| Madkiss | sgran: thank you so much :) | 10:40 |
| sgran | no sweat :) | 10:42 |
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| Madkiss | so heat-services are not crashing, which is good. | 10:42 |
| Madkiss | sgran: do I need a jeos-imafge or something? | 10:42 |
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| sgran | I don't have one | 10:43 |
| sgran | I just have my normal openstack setup with images in glance | 10:43 |
| sgran | then I chuck some json at heat and it goes | 10:43 |
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| Madkiss | sgran: do you happen to know how to specify the net a VM is supposed to connect to? | 11:05 |
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| sgran | something like VPCId | 11:05 |
| sgran | it's a slightly different name for the proprty on an instance vs. the property on an autoscaling group, helpfully | 11:06 |
| sgran | look at heat/engine/resources/instance.py | 11:06 |
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| RaviTezu | Can i scale up/scale down computing resource(i.e. cpu, ram, disk) on running vm instances without shutting it down from horizon? | 11:09 |
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| Madkiss | hmm | 11:11 |
| Madkiss | sgran: I see NetworkInterfaceId, but where would I specify that? in the template? | 11:11 |
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| * sgran checks | 11:19 | |
| sgran | on an instance, you probably just want SubnetId | 11:19 |
| sgran | unless you're making a neutron port ahead of time | 11:19 |
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| Madkiss | sgran: I don't want to create a subnet, actually. What I see is: 2013-10-15 11:01:59.375 22250 TRACE heat.engine.resource BadRequest: Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-44f2e8e4-d529-4e2d-80b4-01ef61e71531) | 11:26 |
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| Madkiss | so I would like to define what net I want the template to start VMs in ;I) | 11:26 |
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| sgran | neutron subnet-list | 11:31 |
| sgran | pick one, add SubnetId: <uuid> to your template as a property when you declare the instance | 11:31 |
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| Madkiss | sgran: subnet_id or network_id? | 11:37 |
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| sgran | I'm looking at /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/heat/engine/resources/instance.py | 11:38 |
| sgran | look at the properties_schema dict | 11:38 |
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| sgran | it wants a subnet uuid | 11:39 |
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| Madkiss | wooohoooot | 11:42 |
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| Madkiss | sgran: thank you so much! I owe you a keg of beer :) | 11:43 |
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| sgran | excellent :) | 11:44 |
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| lourdu | hi | 11:56 |
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| proffalken | anyone in here using log_config and the python logging framework for logging purposes? | 12:00 |
| proffalken | s/anyone/anyone else/g | 12:00 |
| proffalken | I'm having issues with the formatting of the log messages | 12:00 |
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| proffalken | turns out it's subtley different between the "standard" logging (i.e. *not* log_config) and the more flexible log_config method | 12:01 |
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| proffalken | for example: | 12:02 |
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| proffalken | log_config with contextFormatter gives 2013-10-15 05:41:21,728.728 7389 DEBUG nova.compute.manager [-] CONF.reclaim_instance_interval <= 0, skipping... _reclaim_queued_deletes /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/compute/manager.py:4853 | 12:02 |
| proffalken | where as the default gives 2013-10-15 05:41:21,728 7389 DEBUG nova.compute.manager [-] CONF.reclaim_instance_interval <= 0, skipping... _reclaim_queued_deletes /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/compute/manager.py:4853 | 12:02 |
| proffalken | (note the extra three digits on the end of the timestamp) | 12:02 |
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| vks | how can we identify the tap interface of guest vm on integration bridge(br-int) openstack? | 13:01 |
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| krypto | vks: nova list ,use that uuid with quantum port-list --device-id= | 13:11 |
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| vks | krypto: but i didn't got interface attached to openvswitch. | 13:19 |
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| vks | krypto : http://pastebin.com/hLP5aF31 | 13:20 |
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| krypto | grep first 4 characters of port number with ovs-vsctl show | 13:22 |
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| krypto | vks: ohh sorry u can not see guests vms interface on ovs..its connected to linux bridge | 13:25 |
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| vks | krypto: ya i know that. ok , can we identify the veth pair associated with linux bridge and ovs for the vm? | 13:28 |
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| krypto | vks: yes,find tap device name from virsh edit,then grep port id through brctl show there u can see something with qvb* and corresponding ovs end will be qvo* | 13:32 |
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| birdie | hi, does openstack allow me to "combine" hardware resources into a single pool? | 13:42 |
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| inara | yeh, i think that's the point birdie | 13:45 |
| inara | possibly :P | 13:45 |
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| birdie | does that mean i can install one OS that makes use of all the combined hardware? | 13:47 |
| birdie | or am i understanding it wrongly? | 13:47 |
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| decede | birdie: no thats not what openstack does, openstack allows you to spawn instances ontop of the hardware pool | 13:48 |
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| inara | thanks decede | 13:49 |
| decede | birdie: each instance could be a seperate part of the application/system your setting up though | 13:49 |
| birdie | oh i see, will that allow me to boost my IOPS? | 13:49 |
| birdie | for example, if i have 10 servers, but will creating an instance on "openstack" allow me to leverage the throughput of all available HDD? | 13:49 |
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| birdie | because since you mentioned hardware pool. i can assume that the resources are shared? | 13:50 |
| decede | maybe it depends how you want to access the HDD, it sounds like ceph or lustre would suit your needs better | 13:50 |
| birdie | so i can create an instance with 100GB RAM and it will work out fine? | 13:51 |
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| birdie | decede, maybe i am trying to spread out the read/writes among all HDDs while sharing a common file | 13:51 |
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| decede | only if you have >100GB of ram in one of the compute nodes | 13:51 |
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| wahly | or a swap file on the ceph/luster | 13:51 |
| birdie | decede, combined RAM of all nodes yes? not just 1 node? | 13:52 |
| decede | wahly: ah true but the latency would be very high | 13:52 |
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| wahly | yup. it would be dismal at best :) | 13:52 |
| decede | birdie: no not combined ram | 13:52 |
| vks | krypto: brctl show doesn't have any entry | 13:53 |
| decede | birdie: what application do you want to give the resorces to? | 13:53 |
| birdie | erm database maybe? | 13:53 |
| wahly | birdie: have you considered a database technology that scales horizontally? like MongoDB, Riak, CouchDB, Casandra, etc? | 13:54 |
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| decede | birdie: sharding your database would be a better idea if its bigger then a single physical host | 13:54 |
| birdie | wahly, doubt so..since the app uses mysql only | 13:54 |
| decede | ye or some kind of NoSQL | 13:54 |
| vks | krypto: which port-id to grep ? | 13:54 |
| wahly | ya, then sharding would be your best best | 13:54 |
| birdie | sorry, what do you mean by sharding? | 13:55 |
| birdie | !sharding | 13:55 |
| openstack | birdie: Error: "sharding" is not a valid command. | 13:55 |
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| wahly | birdie: breaking your tables up into smaller chunks. would require some re-tooling on the app side to know how to find the chunks | 13:55 |
| decede | or buying lots of SSD's and a raid card and stuffing them in your database server | 13:55 |
| birdie | wahly, ah sharding wont be possible then | 13:55 |
| wahly | for example, if you have a database of users, you could put all users whos names start with A-M in one table/db and the rest in another table/db | 13:56 |
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| birdie | i am currently using the "cloud" database from rackspace | 13:56 |
| birdie | but it seems to be having problem handling transactions | 13:56 |
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| birdie | so i thought i would roll out my own resources to handle mysql | 13:57 |
| wahly | birdie: sounds like your in a bit of tight spot then. you'd need a single compute node with enough RAM to support a VM (or just do bare-metal provisioning via OpenStack) large enough | 13:57 |
| wahly | though beating the idea of sharding/nosql into the devs is likely better, long term | 13:58 |
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| birdie | even though this isn't mysql channel, how does one improve throughput of mysql? more RAM? | 13:58 |
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| wahly | birdie: we're getting a little off topic, but i'd suggest taking a look at mysql-primer: https://launchpad.net/mysql-tuning-primer | 13:59 |
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| birdie | true true. i will read that instead | 14:00 |
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| wahly | not too much to read. it's a shell script that will look at your DB/system and make recommendations | 14:00 |
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| krypto | vks:in that case i think u may not be using proper driver.Can you confirm whether vms are directly getting attached to ovs | 14:03 |
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| krypto | virsh edit "target dev=" check in ovs-vsctl show | 14:04 |
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| vks | krypto: in target dev, i get name of tap interface i.e.tap113bfa93-d7 | 14:06 |
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| krypto | can u able to see that in ovs-vsctl show | 14:07 |
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| vks | ya , i am able to see that | 14:09 |
| vks | that tap interface is shown in the ovs-vsctl command | 14:09 |
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| krypto | then your driver may not be correct,i assume nova security will also dont work | 14:11 |
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| vks | krypto: u re correct. i wl chk that. | 14:12 |
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| vks | krypto: thnx | 14:12 |
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| vks | krypto: virsh edit gives u tap interface. What we will get with brctl show??? | 14:15 |
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| vks | it show bridge? | 14:16 |
| vks | krypto:then how we will identify the bridge of thevm | 14:16 |
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| krypto | vks:in ur case its not using linux bridge instead using ovs bridge | 14:18 |
| vks | ya thats true | 14:18 |
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| krypto | vks:normally tap devices are connected to linux bridge , and brctl show can show that | 14:19 |
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| krypto | and veth pairs connect bridge to ovs | 14:20 |
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| vks | krypto: ok got it, from brctl show we can get qvbr-... and qvbl-... correct ???? | 14:23 |
| krypto | yes :) | 14:24 |
| vks | krypto: thnx once again | 14:24 |
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| krypto | np :) | 14:24 |
| vks | :) | 14:24 |
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| decede | can anyone point me to a good example of /etc/quantum/dhcp_agent.ini? | 14:32 |
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| decede | my dnsmasq seems to not want to give out IP addresses even when the MAC is listed in the --dhcp-hostsfile | 14:33 |
| wahly | decede: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/ZQA6JkuE | 14:33 |
| decede | cheers wahly! | 14:33 |
| wahly | puppet-ized, if that matters to you | 14:34 |
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| decede | Do you use the puppet forge modules? | 14:40 |
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| wahly | nope, wrote my own | 14:41 |
| decede | ah cool, working out well? | 14:41 |
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| wahly | for our use case. it's not as modular as i'd like, but it does what we need really well. you can see most of my work at https://github.com/drwahl/puppet-openstack | 14:42 |
| wahly | i tiwll setup a multi-node cluster with network/control resources on 1 node and compute on other nodes | 14:42 |
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| wahly | and uses LDAP backend with gluster and NFS for storage engines | 14:42 |
| decede | ah cool | 14:42 |
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| wahly | hmm.... i need to update that repo. it's a bit out of sync with what i've implemented at work | 14:43 |
| decede | still playing around on a single box waiting for hardware, was thinking of giving puppet a try when I have more | 14:43 |
| wahly | it's a bit of an undertaking. the modules that are out there right now didn't give me what i was seeking, so i built my own | 14:44 |
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| delete | I know virtualizing on top of a VM sounds stupid but I installed OpenStack on a VM to give it a try. I added an Image and now the "Launch" button doesn't appear is it because I'm on a VM? I followed the RDO installation guide on Fedora 19 | 14:57 |
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| swaT30 | having some issues with Neutron + OVS | 14:59 |
| swaT30 | http://pastebin.com/mbWK9mkq | 14:59 |
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| swaT30 | any help is appreciated :) it's a bit of a weird one.. | 15:02 |
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| sgran | swaT30: you don't say what version of OVS this is. I am going to assume < 1.9.0. If I am correct, upgrading should help | 15:06 |
| sgran | upstream made setting up new flows much faster in ... mumble | 15:06 |
| sgran | I know we were running 1.4.0 and are now running 1.9.0 and it's better | 15:07 |
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| swaT30 | sgran: I'm running 1.4.0 from the precise repo | 15:07 |
| swaT30 | were you having similar issues? | 15:07 |
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| sgran | yes | 15:08 |
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| sgran | and others that forced us to upgrade | 15:09 |
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| sgran | grab the openvswitch from the havana cloud repo, it should make that better | 15:09 |
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| swaT30 | sgran: ok, and is the upgrade relatively seamless with Grizzly? | 15:21 |
| sgran | yes | 15:22 |
| swaT30 | awesome | 15:22 |
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| sgran | don't pull everything - you'll end up running havana | 15:22 |
| sgran | just pull the openvswitch packages | 15:22 |
| swaT30 | yup, I'll just include openvswitch | 15:22 |
| swaT30 | the grizzly quantum agents run fine with it? | 15:22 |
| sgran | yes | 15:22 |
| swaT30 | awesome | 15:22 |
| sgran | you'll need to reboot to unload/load the new kernel module | 15:22 |
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| swaT30 | have you/are you running w/ namespaces? | 15:22 |
| sgran | yes, we're using namespaces | 15:23 |
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| sgran | we've actually stopped using software routers, but we saw this first packet delay in lots of places | 15:23 |
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| swaT30 | ok, and you moved to 1.9.x prior to replacing software routers? | 15:24 |
| sgran | let me think | 15:24 |
| sgran | I think we had already replaced them in heavy traffic environments, but were still using them in some small dev setups | 15:24 |
| swaT30 | ok | 15:24 |
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| sgran | we definitely saw improvement in flow setup time, and we also stopped seeing lost packets from our load balancers when probing instances | 15:25 |
| swaT30 | well, worth a try anyway | 15:25 |
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| swaT30 | one thing that I noted: we're running a net node on a box w/ 12 virtual cores, running @ ~4 load right now, but the load seems to be primarily on the last 5 cores | 15:26 |
| swaT30 | it doesn't seem to be dispersed very well | 15:26 |
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| swaT30 | sgran: also, we're running the dkms datapath. will reboots still be required? | 15:28 |
| sgran | well, technically no - you can tear down all the interfaces and unload/load the new kernel module | 15:29 |
| sgran | it just takes less time to reboot here :) | 15:30 |
| swaT30 | yea, that makes sense :) | 15:30 |
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| swaT30 | good time to sneak some kernel updates in as well | 15:31 |
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| salparadise | hello I am using Contrail integration with openstack http://opencontrail.org/opencontrail-architecture-documentation/#section2_5 | 16:09 |
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| salparadise | when I browse to openstack and I have a project, I am getting an error with no floating IPs and IP pools | 16:09 |
| salparadise | how do I see where those are created or if they were created? | 16:10 |
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| lcestari | radez, Hi Dan, I saw that you maintain the TryStack, I tried many times to ssh the instances there but it didn't work, is there a bug or is some security permission is missing in that RDO? (I tried all linux distros there and I tried importing the key and also import my pub key ) thanks a lot =) | 16:17 |
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| Chocobo | Ugh. So I set (through dashboard) the security groups quota to -1 (was 10). I can still not create more than 10 groups. Any idea why? | 16:22 |
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| radez | lcestari_lunch: no bug I know of, what is your instance name I'll take a look at it | 16:28 |
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| Jomach | hi | 16:35 |
| Jomach | someone there ? | 16:36 |
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| krypto | any idea how to troubleshoot missing arp request between phy-br-eth0 and br-eth0 | 16:36 |
| Jomach | i have a question : how can we restore from logical/ application errors from openstack swift ? | 16:37 |
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| notmyname | jgriffith: I can try to help, but I'm not sure I understand your question | 16:42 |
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| esto | nova --debug boot --poll --flavor X --image my_image --key_name my_key XXXXX | 16:45 |
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| esto | afer runnning this is says Error building instance | 16:45 |
| esto | how can i debug it? | 16:45 |
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| wahly | esto: set "debug=True" and "verbose=True" in nova.conf, restart the nova services, and watch the nova logs when running that command | 16:46 |
| notmyname | jgriffith: whoops sorry. rong person | 16:46 |
| esto | thx | 16:47 |
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| lcestari | radez, HI, thank in advance for the help, I jsut created a new keypair in the account and i'm lunching a new instance to demo. I will PM my user to you | 17:26 |
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| hugokuo | RichardRaseley: | 18:37 |
| RichardRaseley | hugokuo: Hey there. | 18:37 |
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| RichardRaseley | hugokuo: I didn't realize you were in here - was chatting with Martin on this issue. | 18:38 |
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| kwirky88 | I'm currently going through Canonical's documentation on MAAS & JuJu to figure out how to automate the deployment of OpenStack. What other bare metal & software provisioning systems are there to choose from to deploy openstack? | 18:40 |
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| nayward | Hi guys, anyone set up Cinder with Ceph RBD backend? I`m having some issues here... | 19:14 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: yes. also, there are many more people on #ceph at irc.oftc.net who can help, too | 19:15 |
| jrwren | kwadronaut: piston and fuel are alternatives, probably others | 19:16 |
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| nayward | yes, albeit my issue seems more related to openstack, rather than ceph | 19:17 |
| nayward | i used ther manual to set things up | 19:17 |
| mikedawson | nayward: how can I help? | 19:17 |
| kwadronaut | jrwren: hmmm? | 19:18 |
| nayward | but every time I launch an volume creation - it got stuck in "creating" status | 19:18 |
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| nayward | i turned on debug on cinder clients, and only can see that in API creation request finishes with 200 status | 19:19 |
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| nayward | but seems like it never reaches the cinder-volume, or any other service responsible for creation of the volume... | 19:19 |
| nayward | any advices? thanks | 19:20 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: can you paste your cinder.conf somewhere? | 19:20 |
| nayward | sure | 19:20 |
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| jrwren | kwadronaut: sorry, misdir | 19:20 |
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| nayward | http://pastebin.com/nvnK65Sk | 19:21 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: do 'ceph auth get-key client.volumes && virsh secret-get-value b5bab6d1-7166-8a6a-cbf1-2e112a4229d4' return two identical lines? | 19:24 |
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| nayward | yes Mike, they are the same | 19:26 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Good Day all been a while. Playing with Ceilometer and the API service is complaining about ImportError: No module named keystoneclient.middleware | 19:26 |
| Gamekiller77 | is this the correct channel for Ceilometer help | 19:27 |
| mikedawson | nayward: do you have "CEPH_ARGS" defined in /etc/init/cinder-volume.conf ? | 19:28 |
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| nayward | mikedawson: yes, env CEPH_ARGS="--id volumes" at the very top of it | 19:31 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: can the cinder user read /etc/ceph/ceph.client.volumes.keyring? and what permissions does the client.volumes key have under 'ceph auth list'? | 19:34 |
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| nayward | i have 644 on /etc/ceph/ceph.client.volumes.keyring; and for ceph auth "allow class-read object_prefix rbd_children, allow rwx pool=volumes, allow rx pool=images" | 19:36 |
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| nayward | and chown`ed /etc/ceph/ceph.client.volumes.keyring to cinder:cinder, of course | 19:36 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: that all sounds right | 19:37 |
| Gamekiller77 | i have had a hard time getting cephx to work with cinder too | 19:37 |
| mikedawson | nayward: you can add a stanza to ceph.conf ... [client.volumes] log file = /var/log/ceph/$name.log | 19:38 |
| Gamekiller77 | but i running it on Centos | 19:38 |
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| nayward | yep, give me a seconf | 19:38 |
| nayward | yep, give me a second | 19:38 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: then restart the cinder services and retry (make the path somewhere writable). It may show you a cephx error or something. | 19:39 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: other than that, are you sure Glance & RBD work properly? if you are cloning an image that may be the issue, not cinder | 19:40 |
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| nayward | Glance works nicely; I can add image in Glance, and I can see it on RBD image in Ceph | 19:41 |
| nayward | i`m just trying to create a volume in cinder, and it stuck in "creating" stage... | 19:41 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: usually that means Cinder is trying to do it's thing but isn't able to properly talk to ceph | 19:42 |
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| Gamekiller77 | nayward my team is seeing the same problem | 19:43 |
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| Gamekiller77 | nayward: i had to turn off cephx in my dev setup but we are enabling it in our stage infra | 19:43 |
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| mikedawson | Gamekiller77: It does work, but the configuration has been known to trip people up | 19:45 |
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| Gamekiller77 | mikedawson: o i know i working closely with inktank | 19:45 |
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| Gamekiller77 | mikedawson: are you with inktank | 19:48 |
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| mikedawson | Gamekiller77: no. I am a community member | 19:50 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok just checking met a guy name mike a ceph days | 19:50 |
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| mikedawson | Gamekiller77: don't know who that was (not me) | 19:52 |
| Gamekiller77 | not a problem btw i love Ceph just got my new setup going | 19:52 |
| nayward | mikedawson: added that stanza on cinder node (acting as controller node), bumped the cinder-* but no log file appeared... | 19:53 |
| nayward | weird - because I managed to get it working on my previous environment | 19:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | i am going to need to run some bench marks on them soon but we need to figure out this cinder problem like nayward | 19:53 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: likely apparmor, permissions, or a lack of logging output | 19:53 |
| nayward | things that are different this time is that I have 2 controller nodes and a HAproxy, maybe that what messes things up... | 19:54 |
| mikedawson | nayward: I believe that can be made to work (obviously yours isn't yet) | 19:54 |
| nayward | agree... | 19:55 |
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| mikedawson | nayward: if you disable cephx auth, does it work? | 19:56 |
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| Gamekiller77 | any one play with Ceilometer yet | 20:08 |
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| Gamekiller77 | mikedawson: cinder is not wanting to write to ceph | 20:43 |
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| Gamekiller77 | on my setup we did try to enable the ceph logging as you told the other person but no log files where made | 20:43 |
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