Wednesday, 2013-11-06

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openstackstatusNOTICE: filesystem resize complete, logs uploading successfully again in the past few minutes--feel free to 'recheck no bug' or 'reverify no bug' if your change failed jobs with an "unstable" result00:03
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Sam-I-Amwell, i'm temporarily out of errors00:16
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Sam-I-Amwonder if i can start a vm00:18
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Sam-I-Amwell, closer..00:47
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Sam-I-Amyay, got a vm to start00:55
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Sam-I-Amexcept neutron is not returning anything for port-list00:55
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Sam-I-Amyeah, at this point i really have no idea whats going on01:03
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Sam-I-Amthe vm has no ethernet interface01:06
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occupanttry doing an ifup01:06
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Sam-I-Amthe device does not exist01:09
Sam-I-Amfor some reason its not getting a nic01:10
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Sam-I-Amno networks listed in 'nova list'01:11
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Sam-I-Amrichardboswell: you around?01:16
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lkthomashey guys04:05
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lkthomasSam-I-Am: do you write program on openstack ?04:06
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Sam-I-Ami dont write code04:06
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lkthomasit seems engineer role is getting less and less valuable on OpenStack/Linux field04:10
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Sam-I-Amhowso?04:12
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lkthomasdeployment of openstack getting easiler04:13
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lkthomasmost of the distribution contain one click installation04:13
Sam-I-Amoh, i dont think its easy04:13
lkthomasit will get easy soon04:14
lkthomasI saw Ubuntu Juju yesterday04:14
lkthomasdemo I meant04:14
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lkthomascreate and link service on GUI is nothing easy like that before04:14
Sam-I-Amit needs to be a bit easier... too many moving parts to debug when it breaks04:14
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lkthomasI am planning to get involve more on deployment and maybe study how to code on simple python so that I could automate some task04:15
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lkthomasone thing that is hard for me using bash because of RESTful API04:16
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Sam-I-Amyeah...04:17
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lkthomasquestion on object storage, can I do a directory or file list on object storage server ?04:17
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Sam-I-Ami dont know, havent messed with that yet04:18
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Sam-I-Ami'm guessing the db stores the list of contents04:18
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lari__I need to reserve/release an ip from an external system when creating or deleting an instance in OpenStack. What's the best way to approach this? I've been reading the source but still having hard time figuring out where to put my code05:49
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Guest32258I have a problem on configuring openstack06:21
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Guest32258I setup the openstack controller and compute on two separate VM on Centos06:21
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Guest32258and I followed this guideline for the setup "http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf"06:22
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Guest32258when performing "Booting an Image", the VM instance can be created as below06:23
Guest32258| 0fffe52c-1ea5-4066-821b-8bfd83d2b9d9 | cirrOS | BUILD  | spawning   | NOSTATE     | vmnet=10.0.0.2 |06:23
Guest32258however, I cannot ping or ssh the ip address of 10.0.0.206:23
Guest32258can advise what I should check?06:24
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chandankumarGuest17461, Have you add the security group rules like icmp?06:26
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numeroHello06:26
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chandankumarGuest32258, Have you add the security group rules like icmp?06:27
Guest32258these two commands, rite?06:27
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Guest32258nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/006:27
Guest32258nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/006:27
chandankumaryes06:27
Guest32258I have added already06:27
chandankumarGuest17461, if not working try with network networking06:28
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chandankumar*neutron06:28
chandankumarGuest17461, or ask in #openstack-neutron channel.06:28
Guest32258um..06:29
sgranGuest32258: if it stays in BUILD/NOSTATE, that means the compute node probably hasn't started to build it yet06:30
Guest32258do you mean the one documented in the PDF cannot work?06:30
dsockwellchandankumar: thanks for mentioning that, i didn't know there were breakout channels for those services06:30
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Guest32258sorry06:30
Guest32258I copied the wrong status06:30
Guest32258| 0fffe52c-1ea5-4066-821b-8bfd83d2b9d9 | cirrOS | ACTIVE | None       | Running     | vmnet=10.0.0.2 |06:30
sgranok, that's fine06:30
sgranthat should be pingable from something on the same network06:31
Guest32258cannot be ping. I observed one message in /var/log/messages06:31
Guest32258Nov  6 12:32:57 compute1 dnsmasq-dhcp[2485]: DHCPRELEASE(br100) 10.0.0.2 fa:16:3e:61:15:35 unknown lease06:31
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Guest32258when I use06:33
Guest32258when I use "nova show" command to check the VM instance06:33
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Guest32258no error message06:33
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Guest32258it looks like the IP address cannot be allocated to the VM instance, this is why I cannot ping or access it06:34
Guest32258any idea?06:34
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sgranhave you logged into the VM with a console?06:39
sgranyou can try logs and so on there to see06:39
sgranwhere is the neutron-dhcp-agent running?06:39
sgrancan you see DHCP requests on that host?06:39
Guest32258I am not running neutron...06:39
Guest32258accroding the the setup PDF, it is "the legacy networking in OpenStack Compute, with a flat network, that takes care of DHCP."06:40
sgrannova-network, then06:40
sgranwell, I don't use that, so I can't help much06:40
Guest32258:(06:40
sgranbut the principle is the same - there is code on some host that spawns and configures dnsmasq06:40
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sgrandnsmasq should have be running, and you should be able to look at its config file and see an entry for your host06:41
sgranif all that is correct, then see if you can see DHCP traffic06:41
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Guest32258yes. the process is running06:42
Guest32258root      2486  2485  0 12:17 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --conf-file= --pid-file=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.pid --listen-address=10.0.0.1 --except-interface=lo --dhcp-range=set:vmnet,10.0.0.2,static,255.255.255.0,120s --dhcp-lease-max=256 --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf --dhcp-script=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge --leasefile-ro --domain=novalocal --no-hosts --a06:42
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Guest32258and I check on the /var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf06:42
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Guest32258[root@compute1 ~]# cat /var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf fa:16:3e:78:0e:1b,cirros.novalocal,10.0.0.206:42
Guest32258entry is there06:42
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Guest32258but 10.0.0.2 is not accessible06:49
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sgrancan you VNC into the guest and see what it sees?06:56
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sgrancan you tcpdump on the host running dnsmasq and see what it sees?06:56
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Guest32258oo great hinits06:58
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Guest32258I found an error when using the vnc06:58
Guest32258the error is06:58
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Guest32258"This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i586 CPU"06:59
Guest32258"unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"06:59
Guest32258but strange06:59
Guest32258my CPU is 64 bits06:59
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sgranI assume the compute host is running a 32 bit kernel or something?07:00
Guest32258[root@compute1 ~]# uname -a Linux compute1 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 16 18:37:12 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux07:00
Guest32258it should be a x86_6407:00
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enarcisohello; I've been following this scenario: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-network/admin/content/under_the_hood_openvswitch.html07:01
enarcisomy physical interface are trunk (eth1.80) and my br-ex have port eth1.8007:02
enarcisois trunk*07:02
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enarcisoeverything seems to work but I cannot ping the floatingip address07:02
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enarcisoI've already set the my secgroup properly07:03
enarcisoto allow icmp07:03
enarciso& ssh07:03
enarcisoI'm wondering if I'm missing anything since I can't ping my floatingip address07:04
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enarcisonvm; i forgot to install quantum-l3-agent package07:19
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sheldonhSam-I-Am: that question i linked you to yesterday has received an answer. it's a docbug; failure to recommend installation of the openvswitch-datapath-dkms package on ubuntu07:48
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Guest32258any idea what VM instance failed to start due to "kernel only detect an i586 CPU".08:55
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ekarlso-BobBallAway: ping08:57
sgranGuest32258: on the compute host; do virsh list; virsh dumpxml <instance name>08:58
sgranwhat does the definition say about the vcpu?08:58
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Guest32258  <vcpu placement='static'>1</vcpu>?09:00
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Guest32258is it related to single cpu?09:03
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sgranthere should be something in the xml about the architecture09:05
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Guest32258this one?09:06
Guest32258  <os>     <type arch='x86_64' machine='rhel6.4.0'>hvm</type>     <boot dev='hd'/>     <smbios mode='sysinfo'/>   </os>09:06
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sgranright, that seems ok09:06
Guest32258but the cirros 64 bits image cannot be run09:07
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sgranlook at /var/lib/nova/instances/<instance uuid>/console.log09:11
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Guest32258-rw-rw---- 1 qemu qemu      0 Nov  6 17:15 console.log09:17
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Guest32258no log09:17
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Guest32258any idea?09:41
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sheldonhsgran: made progress on yesterday's neutron problem -- the ubuntu install guide forgets to tell GRE users to install openvswitch-datapath-dkms. will file a PR. and then the next problem is that it forgets to tell you to set quantum_admin_password, so the metadata servers pukes. and i'm *convinced* once i get that sorted out, neutron will be working for me! yay!10:09
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decedeIf im using gre tunneling on the compute nodes I only need one network interface?10:23
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sheldonhdecede: the docs suggest at least two on the compute nodes (management and data). it's not clear to me whether each compute node is also supposed to get a third nic for external, or whether that's only the dedicated network node10:25
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sheldonhdecede: that said, i think GRE makes it possible to avoid that advice and create management problems for yourself :)10:26
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decedeye I've been following the docs (Debian install guide) but I think ive only configured the one interface10:26
decedeon the compute node that is10:27
decedemust have missed somthing10:27
sheldonhbugger. neutron_admin_password *is* set in /etc/nova/nova.conf. back to the drawing board with my failing metadata server10:29
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Guest32258sgran. even follow http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/qemu.html, the VM instance still fail to start10:33
SebastianKreutzbHi! Does it actually make sense to install OpenStack on Xenserver in production?10:33
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SebastianKreutzbwe need to better automate the whole VM lifecycle and directly working with Xenserver’s API is horror. Plus it does not have any account management, etc. - Is Xen a good, or maybe even recommended platform to host an openstack environment?10:34
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sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: i don't know anybody who's still in love with xen10:36
dsockwellxenserver's functionality is pretty redundant when compared to openstack10:37
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dsockwellhypervisor, openvswitch, guest management10:37
SebastianKreutzbI agree. Unfortunately the company here sits on a fresh, new 3 years contract with Xen, so we need to stick to it.10:37
dsockwellthere is supposed to be support in openstack for xenapi10:38
dsockwelli've never looked at it10:38
SebastianKreutzbso what do you guys normally do? put it on bare metal?10:38
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dsockwellthat's what i'm doing10:38
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SebastianKreutzbjust found that Rackspace is using Xen for their OpenStack, hmmm. http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/why-rackspace-uses-xen-for-openstack-video.html10:39
dsockwellxen and xenserver are two different things10:39
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dsockwellwhen rackspace and amazon (you'll find they use xen too) built their clouds, Xen was as good as it got10:40
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dsockwellbut it's not clear to me whether they use Citrix XenServer(TM) or just Xen10:41
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sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: read all the way to *why* they're using xen :)10:42
sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: boils down to "cause we already have a lot of xen"10:42
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SebastianKreutzbhmm, like we do ...  - and xen is so hard to automate. The api is horrible. but I don’t know if it really makes sense to put a virtualization on top of another virtualization?10:43
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dsockwellwell Openstack isn't a hypervisor by itself10:43
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sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: it's okay for rackspace to find themselves in a tiny minority because they own so much of the world's openstack skill. others might not want to find themselves quite so far from the support mainstream10:43
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dsockwellif the compatibility table is to believed, OpenStack will happily drive XenServer without a second hypervisor10:43
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SebastianKreutzbdsockwell: how do you mean that?10:44
SebastianKreutzbthere is a native support for XenServer in OpenStack?10:44
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decedegoing by the user survey 5% of people using openstack use XenServer as there hypervisor (71% are on kvm)10:44
sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: we're not talking about running openstack inside Xen domains. we're talking about openstack managing Xen domains10:44
SebastianKreutzbexactly10:45
dsockwellright, so an Openstack head node (or several) with a pile of XenServer boxes behind it doing the VM work10:45
SebastianKreutzbcorrect10:45
dsockwellthat's supposed to work10:45
lkthomasguys, can I still use openstack dashboard if I only run object storage server ?10:46
sheldonhand 5% of us can help you with it ;)10:46
dsockwellthat's 140 of the people in here10:46
dsockwellincluding you10:46
SebastianKreutzbsheldonh: 5% of many is more than 100% of 0 xenserver api fellows10:46
lkthomasanyone going to Redhat Party tonight ?10:46
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dsockwelloh, you should know that there's a big party in hong kong this week and everyone's wasted10:47
sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: i wonder how openstack works with something where the api is shit. you'd think it'd... still suck10:47
SebastianKreutzbone last question: the Openstack head node can be in a VM in the xenserver openstack is managing?10:47
lkthomasdsockwell: where ?10:47
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dsockwelllkthomas: i told you, hong kong10:47
lkthomasdsockwell: the summit, I know10:47
lkthomasdsockwell: I am asking anyone in Hong Kong going to Redhat Party tonight10:48
dsockwellthe point being i'm not there and i'm trying to set up openstack on my own10:48
lkthomasLOL10:48
dsockwellso i'm bitter10:48
sheldonhSebastianKreutzb: that doesn't sound like a great idea to me :)10:48
dsockwellmight be asking for trouble, yes10:48
lkthomasseems no expert around here at this moment10:48
sheldonhyeah, bitterness! hope you party people all get neutron in your drinks!10:48
lkthomaseveryone is in the summit now10:49
SebastianKreutzbok, I think I need to call the data center guys. if they sold my former boss Xen in 2013 then they maybe never heard of OpenStack. Thanks again for your help!10:49
dsockwelli'd hope you all get incredibly hung over, but that wouldn't really help me10:49
lkthomasLOL10:50
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stan_ivanovAnyone knows how to use block_device_mapping ?10:55
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stan_ivanovI tried using it, but my instace is stuck in "Block device mapping" state10:55
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lkthomasI am still trying to understand advantage of object storage10:56
sheldonhlkthomas: it's a developer thing. if you don't think you need it, you don't10:56
sheldonhlkthomas: it's just an HTTP filesystem designed to scale10:57
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lkthomasI kind of understand it could call using RESTful API, but how does it save cost compare with block storage file system10:59
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lkthomasI also understand each object might be anything, for example on Youtube, each object is a video11:01
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lkthomasso on swift, object copy 3 times11:06
lkthomashow does it save cost like this compare with RAID5 ?11:06
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sheldonhlkthomas: for me, siwftr is so completely different from RAID that i can't answer the question11:11
seplkthomas, object copy 3 times to nodes in 3 different datacenters , raid is normaly inside 1 host. and when that host, rack, datacenter, network or transit isp dies or have problems. so does the object.11:11
sheldonhlkthomas: i would use RAID in the storage backend servers so that i could replace failed disks at my convenience11:12
sepits like comparing an apple to a fruit garden11:12
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lkthomassep: understood11:12
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lkthomasOpenStack technology seems landing exactly on service provider11:12
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lkthomaswhenever user need to access object storage, it have to use a custom made apps which call RESTful API, am I correct ?11:13
lkthomasI assume general user don't know how to use curl to write a GET request :P11:14
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lkthomasI think one of the most advancement on OpenStack is that it could utilize object storage to store VM image11:16
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lkthomassep: is that correct ?11:17
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sgransheldonh: hurrah :)11:24
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iwihi there, is it possible to share a network to restricted number of tenants (in havana)?11:27
sgranGuest32258: I don't understand what's going on with your issue11:27
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ogzyis there any crowbar xen integration? so that new vms will use xapi instead of quemu or kvm.11:29
sgranif virsh thinks it's presenting a 64bit cpu and your guest doesn't see a 64bit cpu, that's just odd11:29
lkthomassgran: shouldn't be11:29
lkthomassgran: OS check the register mask11:29
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lkthomasbrb11:34
sheldonhwell, except for https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1210664, obvoiusly ;)11:34
lkthomasheading to redhat party in Hong Kong11:34
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sheldonhanyone know what mistake causes the neutron metadata agent to error with "EndpointNotFound: Could not find Service or Region in Service Catalog"?11:40
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sheldonhin /etc/nova/nova.conf, should neutron_admin_auth_url be http://controller:35357/v2.0 or http://controller:5000/v2.0?11:59
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sheldonhlooks like: http://controller:35357/v2.012:17
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drazylI have controller:500012:17
sheldonhinteresting....12:18
sheldonhdrazyl: thanks for taking the time to look it up for me12:18
drazylsheldonh: no problem, seems to work like that with my setup12:19
sheldonhcool12:20
sheldonhSam-I-Am: here are the doc bugs i've run into with neutron. finally got an instance to boot correctly under neutron! https://gist.github.com/sheldonh/733517812:20
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sheldonhfucking hell. your first successful boot on neutron is like completing nethack!12:21
sheldonh(hopefully somewhat easier to repeat)12:21
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sheldonhdrazyl: 5000 works for me too. i'm gonna change it. thanks :)12:23
drazylcool, glad to help12:24
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winkanyone got an idea how to inject network config params to instances? (got 2 networks, so eth0/eth1 get configured *somehow* correctly, but not perfect)12:45
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sheldonhgrrrr. "Additionally, you must set the newly created br-ex interface to have the IP address that formerly belonged to EXTERNAL_INTERFACE." how are they expecting us to do that? /etc/network/interfaces appears to be too soon13:12
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stan_ivanovAnyone knows how can I use "-block-device" documented here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BlockDeviceConfig ?13:20
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kryptois there any file where dnsmasq saves ip mac details13:24
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sgranyes13:25
sgranif you look at dnsmasq's command line, there are several files listed.  One of them will have those details13:26
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kbringardI think by default it's /var/lib/quantum/dhcp/<subnet-uuid>/host13:27
sgranneutron these days :)13:27
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kbringardah, right, sorry, in grizzly it's still quantum, in havana it's neutron13:27
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kbringardand sorry, it's the net-uuid, not the subnet uuid13:29
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winkis that dhcp bug fixed in neutron/havana? with DNS names missing and just ip-x-y-z-w.tld?13:31
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kryptothank you all,but aren't those leases that hosts received?13:33
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scsnowHi, is it possible to disable image caching under /var/lib/nova/instances/_base, so instance image /var/lib/nova/instances/{uuid}/disk will point directly on base image in glance i.e. /var/lib/glance/images/{uuid_of_base_image}?13:36
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dkuffnerHello, How can I define user-data in a heat template?13:36
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Sam-I-Ammorning guys13:46
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drazylafternoon13:48
Sam-I-Am$timeofday guys13:49
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Sam-I-Amso apparently sheldonh got a vm to boot... and so did i yesterday13:49
Sam-I-Amhowever, my vm has zero network interfaces13:49
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Sam-I-Ami'm not sure exactly where to start debugging this one13:50
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Sam-I-Amcould be an install problem, could be the instructions for creating neutron networks and launching a vm, could be my VM settings (the compute node is running on a vm right now)13:51
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Sam-I-Amsure is quiet...14:32
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kbringardSam-I-Am: everyone is at the summit14:38
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Sam-I-Amthats kind of what i figured14:40
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Sam-I-Amand i'm kind of stuck on something :/14:40
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Sam-I-Amguess i should have gone to the summit!14:40
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Sam-I-Amhummm this looks like an openvswitch problem15:14
Sam-I-Am(not surprised)15:14
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wahlymy VMs are not getting addresses from DHCP after a fresh buildout (using puppet modules i created).  i have 1 setup that is working fine (as configured by puppet), but the 2nd setup is not providing DHCP ips to the VMs. anyone have ideas on where to being troubleshooting this?15:26
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wahlyi have done tcp dumps, and i see the packets making it from the compute node to the bridged interface on the network/control node, but i'm not sure where to go from here15:27
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Chocobo"Physical volumes that are needed on the Cinder host begin with "a". The array must end with "r/.*/""   Physcial volumes that are needed FOR cinder?   Or volumes that are needed for the host, but NOT for cinder?15:28
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drazylwahly what base os you using?15:33
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wahlydrazyl: CentOS6.415:37
wahlyrunning grizzly15:37
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ChocoboDoes anything look odd about this cinder URL?  I am getting a malformed url error:  http://10.0.0.20:8776/v1/$(tenant_id)s15:49
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drazyl% not $15:50
drazyl(if in keystone)15:50
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Chocobodrazyl: hrmmm... ok.  thanks.  I wonder how that got in there.15:51
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ChocoboHrmmm, changing that didn't seem to help15:53
ChocoboFrom debug output this is the url that is generated:  http://10.0.0.20:8776/v1/592758ab227e41a8adb6ea1e223459a1/volumes/detail15:54
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ChocoboHrmmm I don't get it:  http://pastie.org/pastes/8459967/text15:56
Chocoboit looks fine15:56
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drazylcheck the cinder logs (/var/log/cinder/cinder-api.log perhaps) to see if there is more info there16:05
Chocobodrazyl: there isn't.  Hrmmm, I wonder if I have to have nova installed before "cinder list" will work :/   I wouldn't think so.16:06
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drazylChocobo no, that shouldnt be needed16:07
drazylkeystone authentication working ok etc16:07
QlawyI perfer to use UUID tokens, but perhaps its irrelevant16:07
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* Sam-I-Am files docs bugs16:08
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SebastianKreutzbI have issues with installing OpenStack via DevStack on XenServer. When I run ./install_os_domU.sh the error "ERROR: multiple hosts found. This might mean that the XenServer is a member16:09
SebastianKreutzbof a pool " appears. Which is correct. Does anyone know how to use Devstack with a multi-host XenServer?16:09
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ChocoboQlawy: remind me how to use UUID tokens...  I know I need to set to token_format=UUID...  but isn't there something else I need to change?16:13
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monstanyone familiar with SSO using x-auth headers via Proxy?16:18
ChocoboAh, well.. I think I got UUID tokens woeking, same Malformed URL error :(16:18
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epsashmm - was wondering if anyone had hardware suggestions for building a cheap & low power openstack setup16:20
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ChocoboInterestingly I don't see the malformed url error in any of the cinder logs :/16:21
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devoidepsas: what are your power requirements?16:21
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epsasoh man, less than 5 amps ideally16:23
epsas110VAC16:23
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epsasideally just a couple amps16:24
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Chocobovolume_driver=cinder.volume.driver.ISCSIDriver vs volume_driver=cinder.volume.drivers.lvm.LVMISCSIDriver16:27
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devoidepsas: how many vms are you trying to support and why are you choosing open stack for that?16:28
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drazylChocobo no idea, using Ceph16:28
drazylepsas and what is your budget16:28
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epsasdrazyl - mostly api testing - bringing up instances, setting up virtual networks and storage -- running tests... and then bringing the whole shebang down to repeat the process16:35
epsasmy budget would probably be small to begin with < $1,00016:35
epsass/would probably/will16:36
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muehsiI am using devstack with neutron + restproxy plugin. I do get an error: (Table 'restproxy_neutron.quotas' doesn't exist") - I do not know how to fix it..16:37
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devoidepsas: with that budget, I'd suggest repurposing existing hardware. One management node with 2 or 3 compute + storage nodes.16:38
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mdormani am seeing rpc timeout errors from nova-network when creating an instance.16:45
mdorman2013-11-06 09:45:01.926 15250 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp Timeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "network", RPC method: "deallocate_fixed_ip" info: "<unknown>"16:45
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mdormantrying to confirm what service is responsible for handling the deallocate_fixed_ip call.  is that nova-api?16:46
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devoidmdorman: used to be nova-network16:46
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devoidmdorman: so down the neutron pipe if you're running that16:47
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mdormannot running neutron now, still just nova-network16:47
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mdormanactaully looks like it might be this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/101763316:47
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devoidpossibly, I got similar problems (deallocate_fixed / floating_ip fails) and always had to dig into the database and see if anything was set wrong.16:49
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mdormandevoid: that's where i'm headed next16:51
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monstis it possible to to log into horizon with x-auth header or x-auth-token?16:59
monstcould really use some feedback16:59
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Sam-I-Ammdorman: i've had that error with neutron17:02
Sam-I-Ammdorman: not exactly sure how i fixed it though :/17:02
mdormanhaha17:02
mdormanwe are going to try removing and recreating the network again17:03
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CaptainTacoSauceSam-I-Am: You cranking out VMs yet?17:04
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: yes, but they lack eth interfaces for some reason17:04
Sam-I-Amso i got past that rpc problem17:04
Sam-I-Amjust... moved on to another problem!17:04
CaptainTacoSauceany idea how? just got lost in the rebuild?17:04
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Sam-I-Amhow i fixed the rpc problem?17:04
CaptainTacoSauceaye17:05
CaptainTacoSaucesince I'm still stuck on it :D17:05
Sam-I-Ami mentally merged the unofficial grizzly docs with the official havana docs17:05
Sam-I-Amthere's a lot of stuff missing from the latter17:05
CaptainTacoSaucebut only just now back, had to put out the fires with the old system17:05
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Sam-I-Amif you want we can compare some config files in a bit... i have notes on specifically what i added/changed/deleted17:05
CaptainTacoSaucealright yeah I'm just trying to remember what I'm doing in here17:06
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Sam-I-Amhaha, did you try drinking first?17:06
Sam-I-Amit takes the edge off17:06
Sam-I-Am:P17:06
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Sam-I-Ami gotta run for about 30 mins, then i'll be back here17:07
Sam-I-Amnot that my config is correct, but it got me further17:07
CaptainTacoSaucecool cool, later man17:08
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CaptainTacoSaucestill on coffee, beer comes later17:08
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: yo17:52
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mdormanhave a situation where nova-network is not adding the network's bridge_interface to the bridge for that network.  was there something in the config i have to set to make it actaully add it to the bridge?18:35
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Qlawymonst: show us nova network-show your_network18:36
Qlawymdorman: ↑18:36
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Qlawymdorman: if network was created correctly, nova should create bridge automatically18:37
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Qlawymdorman: in other case set debug=true and check nova-network.log or network.log (depends on your conf)18:38
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mdormanactually i see the problem now.  bridge_interface=br1706 and bridge=1706.  bridge_interface needs to be bond0.170618:39
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Qlawymdorman: :)18:43
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mdormansometimes it just takes some help to see the obvious!18:45
Sam-I-Ami need to figure out my issue still :/18:45
Sam-I-Amcreating the neutron networks/subnets/routers/whatever seems to work, but my VM has no eth interface... and there's no port associated with it either18:46
Qlawymdorman: agree :)18:46
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QlawySam-I-Am: ee… vm without eth0? Perhaps wrong image? Did you try with cirros?18:47
Qlawycirros ftw!18:47
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Sam-I-Ami'm using cirros18:47
Qlawyuh Oo18:47
Sam-I-Amnot sure why its not getting an eth interface18:47
Qlawyvery strange18:47
QlawySam-I-Am: show us neutron port-list18:48
Sam-I-Ami am running this test compute node as a VM if that has any effect18:48
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Sam-I-Ami.e., as libvirt qemu rather than kvm18:48
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Sam-I-AmQlawy: i need to recreate the neutron networks... deleted all of it thinking i goofed up18:50
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Sam-I-Ambut, when it was running, neutron port-list showed nothing for the tenant18:50
QlawySam-I-Am: strange still18:51
QlawySam-I-Am: my lab is on vmware vms18:51
Qlawyok, its all-in-one installation18:51
Sam-I-Amwell, its further than i got before... at least i can launch a VM18:51
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Sam-I-Ami have three nodes... controller, network, and compute.  all VMs on VMware.18:51
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Sam-I-Amlibvirt complained on the compute node due to lack of hardware support, so i had to change some stuff in it18:51
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QlawySam-I-Am: do you have ESX 5.1?18:52
Sam-I-Ami also made some other changes to libvirt as described in the 'unofficial' grizzly on ubuntu docs18:52
Sam-I-Am5.5, but its more or less 5.118:52
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QlawySam-I-Am: anyway you HAVE to had promiscousysusdasdasdasda mode on18:53
Qlawypromisc* :)18:53
SebastianKreutzbHi! I got the job from my company to introduce a private cloud and want to go with openstack. we already have 6 monster servers (400 GB RAM each) and I thought I could use them as first nodes for Openstack. Now I have 2 questions relating best practices:18:53
Qlawyanyway, use you vCenter web client18:53
Sam-I-Amon the VM interfaces?18:53
Qlawythen update hardware to v918:53
QlawySam-I-Am: on vmware vswitch18:53
SebastianKreutzb1. should we use XEN or VMWare as hypervisor or can openstack do that by itself?18:54
Sam-I-Amahh, yeah i guess that would make sense18:54
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Qlawynext expand CPU and there is sth about enable virtualisationd18:54
Sam-I-Ammy first install was on bare hardware, so i didnt think about it18:54
Qlawyand voila18:54
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Qlawyyou have full virtualisation in vm :D18:54
Sam-I-Amcool, i was wondering if there was a trick to that18:54
Sam-I-Amlemmie try this stuff...18:54
QlawySebastianKreutzb: give me a momemnt, need to read it :P18:54
mjeansonHi, is it an expected behavior that the system clock of a resumed guest will be late by the time it was suspended? (with kvm)18:54
Sam-I-Amdo you know if snapshots on v8 hardware work with v9?18:55
Sam-I-Ambecause all my snaps are v818:55
QlawySam-I-Am: yes it does18:55
Sam-I-Amcool18:55
ajoSebastianKreutzb, why not KVM?18:55
QlawySam-I-Am: openstack is not hypervisor18:55
ajoaround 71% users use KVM according to stats..18:55
QlawySam-I-Am: you have to use kvm/xen/vmware as hypervisor18:55
SebastianKreutzbKVM would be also fine. but one of the guys wants Windows VMs, too. Is that possible? Or is it even possible to go without that and let OpenStack be the hypervisor?18:56
QlawySam-I-Am: sry18:56
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: ↑18:56
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: ofc!18:56
QlawySebastianKreutzb: windows vms works perfectly on kvm18:56
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ajoyes, they do18:56
SebastianKreutzbah okay. I was often reading something about "installing openstack on bare metal", thought that would be it18:56
Sam-I-Ami think openstack might even support hyper-v heh18:56
Qlawyand again OpenStack is NOT a hypervisor18:56
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ajoOpenstack it's not the hypervisor,18:56
QlawySam-I-Am: yes it is, but you shoudl read that flame war on openstack dev list :P18:57
ajothis phrase is repeating a lot lately... :-)18:57
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Sam-I-Amwait, what? flame wars for open source projects?  tell me it aint so!18:57
Qlawyanyway SebastianKreutzb use what you want, but KVM and Xen are most tested with openstack18:57
SebastianKreutzband what about the network security? Does OpenStack take care for that? I mean can I put all KVM servers in one network and OpenStack rules with own security groups the security?18:58
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ajosyes18:58
QlawySebastianKreutzb: hmm… its a bit more complicated18:58
ajoit's more complicated, but yes...18:58
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SebastianKreutzbmore complicated?18:58
QlawySebastianKreutzb: most secure is neutron + some plugins or nova-network with vlans but its obsolete now18:59
ajoyou can make several private virtual networks ...18:59
d_wSebastianKreutzb: neutron plugin needs to support it..18:59
SebastianKreutzbah like at AWS?18:59
Qlawyand you can but not have to separate them on L218:59
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QlawyNo idea how AWS works18:59
SebastianKreutzbso if I put all VMs in one network then they can "see" each other?18:59
Qlawyyes19:00
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Qlawyhow many projects do you have?19:00
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ajoyes, but you can have several Virtual Networks over the same physical network,...19:00
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SebastianKreutzbprojects are something like accounts, right?19:00
Qlawyno19:00
Qlawyor hmm19:00
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Qlawywhat dou you mean saying account?19:00
Qlawyaccount = user?19:00
ajoand neutro will take care of keep them separated to each other (using VLANs, GRE or VXLANs...) with the openvswitch plugin,19:00
Qlawyif yes, then no19:00
ajoyou have plugins from more vendors19:01
SebastianKreutzbno I mean like a company account at AWS which can have several users19:01
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ajoyes19:01
ajoyou can have several users, several projects...19:01
Qlawyand domains now :P19:01
ajoshared networks between projects, or privated networks f...19:01
ajodomains... what's that? %)19:01
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Qlawyajo: keystone v319:01
ajoI'm obsolete...19:01
Qlawyajo: believe me, its pain in the ass19:02
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ajohahahaha19:02
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ajowhat are they for?19:02
Qlawyajo: you cant use standard cli with that :/19:02
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Qlawya lot of changes in there19:02
SebastianKreutzband per project I can define a private network?19:02
Qlawyajo: in v3 you have: domains with projects and users in it19:03
ajoSebastianKreutzb: yes19:03
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SebastianKreutzband is setting up of a private network "just some clicks in the frontend" or do I need to deep-dive into config files for that?19:03
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: forntends are evil!19:04
SebastianKreutzban API is also fine19:04
Qlawyusing openstack clients are very comfortable19:04
Qlawyis*?19:05
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Qlawyanyway, you have set of commands: keystone, glance, nova, neutron, cinder, swift(if you need it) …19:05
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SebastianKreutzbwhat project takes care for the private networks?19:05
Sam-I-AmQlawy: where do you see this virtualization-in-a-vm feature?19:05
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QlawySam-I-Am: w8 moment, I will paste you an image19:06
Sam-I-Amthanks!19:06
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QlawySam-I-Am: On the Virtual Hardware tab, expand CPU, and select Expose hardware-assisted virtualization to guest OS.19:06
QlawySam-I-Am: stil looking for image19:07
Qlawyhttp://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-51/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.vm_admin.doc%2FGUID-2A98801C-68E8-47AF-99ED-00C63E4857F6.html19:07
Sam-I-AmQlawy: thanks, looking for it now19:08
QlawySam-I-Am: http://demijnzia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/vsphere-web-1.png19:08
SebastianKreutzbajo: in what openstack project(?) is the private networking located? and can I do that fully via API (or frontend)?19:08
QlawySebastianKreutzb: yes you can19:09
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: neutron or obsolete now nova-network19:09
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: you need just that first one, counters are not important19:09
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QlawySam-I-Am: ↑19:10
QlawySam-I-Am: and it has to be done in web client, there is no such option in vSphere Client19:10
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SebastianKreutzbso I need to tell the data center guys just to setup one standard internal network and all openstack servers consume that and openstack takes care for the virtual private networking. that’s cool19:10
QlawySebastianKreutzb: sth like that19:11
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Sam-I-AmQlawy: yeah... i dont quite have this test setup in vsphere yet... guess i either need to find it or figure out the config directive19:11
ajoyes19:11
QlawySebastianKreutzb: I will show you sth19:11
ajousually you have a public network19:11
ajowhere you route externals IP to19:11
ajoand an internal network19:11
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: my favorite link: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide19:12
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ajowhere all host talk internally... and share put the virtualized networks19:12
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: you can have 2 internal networks too, one for hmm management, and one, faster for vms flow19:12
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Qlawybut with neutron ajos concept is pretty good19:13
ajoyes, openstack is highly customizable for everything19:13
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Qlawyits why I love it19:13
Qlawyok, like…19:13
Qlawy;)19:13
ajohaha19:13
ajo:D19:13
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SebastianKreutzbthanks, that helped me already a lot to get the concept. today I tried to install openstack on our xenserver cluster but I failed because all devstack instructions are just for a single xenserver cluster, hmmm19:14
ajoYou can even make it work with just one network interface (poor's man openstack)19:14
QlawySebastianKreutzb: I have devstack!19:15
Qlawyhate*19:15
QlawySebastianKreutzb: srsly, use link I posted19:15
ajohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEa_8ESxPAY&feature=youtu.be19:15
QlawySebastianKreutzb: OVS_MutliNode is what you need/want19:15
ajothis is a video about how to deploy multihost with GRE/VXLAN19:15
ajousing packstack19:15
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SebastianKreutzbmoney and stuff is not a problem at us, I was hired to actually reduce the complexity. so less networks, less real servers and so on is better. and it’s great to hear that openstack virtualizes all this stuff, too.19:16
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ajoif you like the red path...19:16
ajoit also takes care of storage, if you have not specialized hardware19:16
SebastianKreutzbajo: so this video shows xenserver cluster installation? sorry that I am so not-understanding all that :(19:16
ajono19:16
Sam-I-AmQlawy: dammit, my hardware is too old19:16
QlawySam-I-Am: crap :(19:17
ajoit shows multi node , KVM based19:17
QlawySam-I-Am: no EPT?19:17
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SebastianKreutzbOVS_MutliNode I can also use for Xen?19:17
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ajoyou like Xen for some special reason?19:18
Sam-I-AmQlawy: looks like i'll need to fire up another compute node on bare hardware19:18
SebastianKreutzbno, but the company just recently signed a long-year contract with a data center about a large xenserver cluster. and then they fired the guy who decided it. and now I took over :(19:18
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SebastianKreutzband the company would love to see not have all the money burned for nothinfg19:19
ChocoboOdd..  I created a cinder volume (| a1e06d82-8826-4189-8966-7a77952aabaf | error  |     test     |  1   |     None    |  false   |             |) and there are no error messages in the log files :/19:19
QlawySebastianKreutzb: I see no problems I think19:19
Sam-I-AmQlawy: wondering if its easy to move these config files from the vm'd compute node to a hardware one and it Just Works... as oppose to deleting it from the controller19:19
Sam-I-Amalthough i think the compute nodes check in dynamically via rabbit19:19
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QlawyChocobo: set debug or at least verbose to true in cinder configs19:19
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QlawySam-I-Am: just copy-paste and change my_ip in nova.conf19:20
Sam-I-AmQlawy: thx.  time for some more hours of fun :/19:20
QlawySam-I-Am: do it tomorrow :P19:21
Sam-I-Amlol19:21
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ChocoboQlawy: I have both of those set.19:22
QlawySebastianKreutzb: http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/category/neutron-basic-rdo-setup/ Im not sure if it will help you, but check this out19:22
QlawyChocobo: cinder show a1e06d82-8826-4189-8966-7a77952aabaf19:22
SebastianKreutzbwhat application or instruction or secret source of information would you guys recommend for a openstack newbie who was confronted with a xenserver cluster? I mean just some very basic stuff that I just see the openstack management frontend?19:22
QlawyChocobo: if I remember good19:23
QlawySebastianKreutzb: docs.openstack.org19:23
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QlawySebastianKreutzb: just start with nova-network, and when you figure out how it works, try to migrate to neutron19:23
Qlawyor just start it from scratch19:23
Qlawybut you need few days to understand how it works19:24
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SebastianKreutzbok. I try to wrap my mind around it. that xenserver cluster makes it unnecessary hard I think, but maybe I can bite through19:24
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ChocoboQlawy: I just deleted the volume and recreated it.  I got this in cinder-volume.log:  OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/volumes'19:27
Chocobothat directory doesn't even exist.  I must have a path error wrong somewhere.19:28
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QlawyChocobo: what the… Oo19:28
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QlawyChocobo: I maybe know what is wrong but do not remember options name19:29
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Qlawyits sth like volume_path or so19:29
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SebastianKreutzboh, one more thing. does it matter what distro the control node (is that the correct name) has? is ubuntu fine?19:29
Qlawyits where volume xmls are stored afair19:29
QlawySebastianKreutzb: yes it is19:29
QlawySebastianKreutzb: ubuntu has nice repo with openstack packages19:30
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ChocoboQlawy: #state_path=$pybasedir19:31
* Chocobo slaps his forehead19:31
QlawyChocobo: nope19:31
QlawyChocobo: dont be so harsh :P19:31
ChocoboThat didn't fix it anyway :P19:32
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SebastianKreutzbdevstack recommends to install openstack as VM on the same xenserver (cluster) where it creates its own openstack VMs. that’s not cool right?19:39
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SebastianKreutzbI mean the cloud controller should be on a different server right?19:39
d_wSebastianKreutzb: why?19:40
d_wSebastianKreutzb: doesn't matter where controller sits as long as it runs19:40
SebastianKreutzbok19:40
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ChocoboGot bast the last error, now I have this:  2013-11-06 19:39:38    ERROR [cinder.scheduler.filters.capacity_filter] Free capacity not set: volume node info collection broken. && 2013-11-06 19:39:38    ERROR [cinder.scheduler.manager] Failed to schedule_create_volume: No valid host was found.19:41
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Chocobohuh, it looks like it just needed some time.  It just started working.  Cool19:53
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CaptainTacoSauceSo Google suggests this error is benign? TRACE neutron.openstack.common.rpc.amqp AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'refresh_firewall'20:14
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: you got a new error?20:18
CaptainTacoSauceseems like it20:18
CaptainTacoSauceI tried adding a second network like sgrace suggested.20:19
Sam-I-Amhuh20:19
Sam-I-Amwell, if you want to compare config files...20:19
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CaptainTacoSaucesure, might as well20:19
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CaptainTacoSaucestarting to get that 'rip it out and redo it' feeling again :P20:19
Sam-I-Amhaha20:20
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Sam-I-Amwell, if you just followed the official docs, there's missing stuff which may cause this problem20:20
Sam-I-Ami sort of mentally merged the unofficial grizzly docs with the official havana docs20:21
Sam-I-Amand made notes of the differences20:21
CaptainTacoSauceyeah, I'd thought about doing that but I need to merge in a third guide for a single flat network :P20:21
Sam-I-Amoh my20:22
Sam-I-Amwell, at least with these changes maybe you could start a VM up20:22
CaptainTacoSaucewhat's your network layout look like?20:22
Sam-I-Ami'm pretty much using the unofficial grizzly doc layout20:22
Sam-I-Amcontroller+net+compute20:22
CaptainTacoSauceI mean, are you just using VMs? one flat network or VLANs or?20:23
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Sam-I-Amthe grizzly doc has me assigning fixed 'public' IPs to my VMs20:23
Sam-I-Ami'm still a little confused on the network designs20:23
Sam-I-Ami just dont like the rpc error of dooooom20:24
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CaptainTacoSaucemm alright20:24
CaptainTacoSaucealright so what'd you add to these config files then? :D :D20:24
CaptainTacoSaucebefore someone blows up the old platform again20:25
Sam-I-Amone sec..20:25
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Sam-I-Amwant to start with the controller node?20:26
CaptainTacoSaucesure20:26
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Sam-I-Amhttp://pastebin.com/nAB4d7PS20:29
Sam-I-Amthats nova.conf20:29
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Sam-I-Amhttp://pastebin.com/JhggxEz020:34
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CaptainTacoSaucethanks, already got pulled away, that didn't take long20:35
Sam-I-Amhaha20:35
Sam-I-Amsounds like my days20:36
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Sam-I-Amwhat i need to do is post all my config files somewhere20:36
Sam-I-Amnot that my config actually works, but its closer than i've ever been before20:36
sgranwhere you have quantum_metadata_proxy_shared_secret = secret, don't you want to 's/quantum/neutron/' ?20:36
Sam-I-Ami wondered about that20:37
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Sam-I-Amsince thats completely missing from the official docs20:37
sgranpfft.  grep is your friend20:37
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Sam-I-Amnot exactly sure what that thing does :/20:38
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Sam-I-Amsgran: did you see my note about VMs spinning up without any ethernet interface?20:39
Sam-I-Ami'm not sure why thats happening20:39
Sam-I-Ambut at least i'm past the rpc error20:39
sgranSam-I-Am: on the compute host, does virsh dumpxml <instance-name> mention a nic ?20:40
sgranif so, grep for that nic in /proc/net/dev20:40
sgrandoes it exist?20:40
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Sam-I-Amwould running the compute node as a VM on a host that can't pass HW virtualization to guests matter?20:42
Sam-I-Amthats kind of where i wound up20:42
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sgrandoes the compute host have access to network device that it can create things on?  eg, linuxbridge, openvswitch ?20:43
Sam-I-Ami'm running openvswitch on there20:44
sgranif you run ovs-vsctl show, do you see the devices you expect?20:44
sgranor in cat /proc/net/dev ?20:44
Sam-I-Amdurr, too bad you werent around earlier. i started building a non-VM compute node.  let me get to where i can launch a VM on the previous system and run those commands.20:46
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CaptainTacoSaucewow yeah your nova.conf was totally different20:46
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Sam-I-Amthat was one of the files that changes quite a bit based on the grizzly docs20:47
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CaptainTacoSauceokay so I think I'm caught up, so far still broken21:03
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CaptainTacoSauceoooo!! progress!! I can actually delete my dead nova entries now21:03
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CaptainTacoSauceokay, I take it back, I'm not still broken, the VM booted!!21:05
Sam-I-Amok, does it have an eth interface?21:05
Sam-I-Amcuz if it does, i hate you :)21:05
CaptainTacoSaucehmm, how do I tell? I don't have horizon yet so I can't console in21:05
CaptainTacoSaucetime to add horizon? :P21:05
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Sam-I-Amthere should be vnc listening on port 5900 of your compute node21:06
CaptainTacoSaucehmm okay let me play with it21:06
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CaptainTacoSauceeth0 exists, but no IP assigned21:09
sinhhi. . if i have multiple vlans trunked to a single port. . do i need to create a different physnet# for each of the ethX.vlan interfaces?21:09
sinhand is there anyone that has set up openstack to not use private ips and a nat but instead just assigning public ips to it (without floating ips)?21:10
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: hummm interesting21:11
CaptainTacoSaucerelated error message in /var/log/neutron/server.log: 2013-11-06 15:04:28.361 1125 WARNING neutron.db.agentschedulers_db [-] Fail scheduling network {'status': u'ACTIVE', 'subnets': [u'595b2e7d-1d44-4c68-916e-fdcdf0510004'], 'name': u'MY_FLAT_NET', 'provider:physical_network': u'physnet1', 'admin_state_up': True, 'tenant_id': u'b5c7b74027be444b8422b90d4a06f3ef', 'provider:network_type': u'flat', 'router:external': False, 'shared': False, 'id21:12
CaptainTacoSauce': u'379108f0-8501-4b97-a0cf-a08fdde607fb', 'provider:segmentation_id': None}21:12
CaptainTacoSauceI'm sure I just jacked up the neutron config somewhere.21:13
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Sam-I-Amwhat docs are you using to define your networks?21:13
Sam-I-Ami was using the stuff from grizzly, but that also got me no eth interface... so... trying again21:13
CaptainTacoSauceso your cirros vm just has lo and that's it?21:14
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Sam-I-Ami had pulled down my compute node to make it into a real machine since my hardware is too old to support nested hypervisors21:14
Sam-I-Amyeah, one sec trying to boot another vm21:14
Sam-I-Ami re-did the network conf21:14
CaptainTacoSaucemy neutron config files are glued together from like 10 different sites hence why I have like no faith in them21:14
Sam-I-Amoh huh weird, i have eth0 now21:15
Sam-I-Amand it has an IP21:15
Sam-I-Amlet me see if it works21:15
Sam-I-Amholycrap, it does21:15
CaptainTacoSaucehahaha21:15
Sam-I-Ami can ping 4.2.2.221:15
Sam-I-Amhow about this...21:15
Sam-I-Amhttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst#5-your-first-vm21:16
CaptainTacoSaucelet me just blow away my openvswitch and do it again21:16
Sam-I-Amtry configuring your networks based on that info21:16
Sam-I-Amand be careful about tenant IDs and such21:16
Sam-I-Amthey kind of switch around in the middle21:16
Sam-I-Am(which is what i think got me)21:16
CaptainTacoSaucehmm okay, I'll check it out21:17
Sam-I-Amsgran: so... looks like following the grizzly instructions for tenant/net creation and then booting a VM woks21:17
Sam-I-Amworks21:17
CaptainTacoSauceso what was our problem with the rpc message? did we get a lesson learned? it looks like you have to hand feed nova and tell it where neutron lives instead of nova just asking keystone21:17
ekarlso-Sam-I-Am: what hypervisor you running on as default ?21:18
Sam-I-Amfor this test lab, esx21:18
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Sam-I-Ami am going to move the compute node to bare hardware21:19
Sam-I-Ambut vm'ing it for now let me take snapshots and revert21:19
Sam-I-Amnow to figure out WHY this works21:19
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ekarlso-Sam-I-Am: what you think of xenserver ?21:19
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CaptainTacoSauceyou mean nova is a vm running in esx? I think he meant what hypervisor is nova using?21:20
Sam-I-Amuh, i've never used it21:20
CaptainTacoSauceI'd assume KVM21:20
Sam-I-Amoh, nova wants to use kvm, but since i can't pass cpu vm extensions to vms, i have to use qemu for now21:21
Sam-I-Amwhich.. kvm more or less does anyway21:21
CaptainTacoSauceso ekarlso- if that's what you mean, you want openstack to spin up xenserver VMs, I believe it is a supported config if you want to go down that route, but the docs are all for KVM21:22
sgranSam-I-Am: hurrah :)21:23
Sam-I-Amsgran: yeah, really21:23
Sam-I-Amtime to throw a party21:23
Sam-I-Ambut only after we get CaptainTacoSauce working21:23
Sam-I-Amsgran: so i think those grizzly docs are pretty good21:24
Sam-I-Ambecause what i merged from them into the havana docs Magically Works21:24
CaptainTacoSaucehaha yeah I think I've made my own mess, I'm just happy to get past that cryptic rpc error :D21:24
Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: i still dont know what caused that, but pretty sure the nova.conf i pasted had something to do with it21:25
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Sam-I-Ami also noticed the order in which the grizzly docs deploy services is a bit different21:25
CaptainTacoSauceyes I think so, there are several lines in your nova.conf that tell it directly how to talk to neutron, I didn't have any of that21:25
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Sam-I-Amthere's other stuff dotted around too21:26
Sam-I-Ami'm still posting bug reports :/21:27
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Sam-I-Amthink i've hit 8 of 18 so far today21:27
Sam-I-Amnow is a good opportunity to snapshot all of these systems...21:27
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Sam-I-Ambreak out the compute node, and then try configuring horizon/cinder/whatever21:28
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: get pulled away again?21:37
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CaptainTacoSauceoh not exactly, just ripping apart the neutron config, I feel like I'm close now :D21:37
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d_wah rpc problems..21:39
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Sam-I-Amyup21:40
CaptainTacoSauceyeah plaguing us for weeks now :P21:40
Sam-I-Amseemed like nova compute would toss something into the rabbit queue and it never got a response21:40
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Sam-I-Amat least thats the best i could do... debugging a rabbit queue is painful21:40
d_wI have to revisit my openstack VM.. neutron rpc seems to be failing me.. no idea if I missed something in config or what21:40
CaptainTacoSaucesounds a lot like what we had21:41
Sam-I-Amyeah21:41
Sam-I-Amwhat was your exact error message?21:41
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d_wi'm too lazy to start it today :) but basically request to spin vm is timing out with neutron plugin in error message..21:42
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Sam-I-Ami think my error appeared in nova-compute.log on the compute box21:43
Sam-I-Ambut there were many many... many...... errors before i even got there :/21:43
d_wah.. mine didn't..21:43
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Sam-I-Amthe first errors i found were in the openvswitch stuff21:44
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elfelvini have a public net with public subnet created, how can I assign multiple IP's to a single instance?  I am not talking about floating IP's I mean another IP from the local public subnet.21:49
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d_welfelvin: via puppet/chef or so having secondary IPs is guest configuration..21:53
metralanyone have experience setting up VPNaaS? would love some help21:53
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d_wmetral: you mean mpls? :)21:54
ekarlso-d_w: no neutron vpnaas I guess21:55
d_wekarlso-: so you want network between VMs?21:55
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metralno, the extension vpn for neutron21:55
ekarlso-d_w: .... metral that asked :)21:55
metralhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/VPNaaS21:55
metral:D21:56
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d_wah.. wonder what the use case for that would be..21:56
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elfelvind_w: its not a matter of configuring it on the client instance, its more of how neutron handles it?  i have tried to add another port with "neutron port-create ext_net --mac-address fa:16:3e:ac:80:e2" but it says the mac is already in use.21:57
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elfelvinhow do i "assign" an ip from the pool to a specific instance?21:57
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metralone usecase: ipsec tunnel between openstack deployments21:58
d_wbecause actually most of networks build something like overlay (aka VPN) for clouds..21:58
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d_wall qfabric/fabricpath/OTV/.. network equipment is building VPN for you.. so ipsec just adds overhead..22:00
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d_wbut of course cloud in cloud might be something where vpnaas could make sense22:00
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metralyea22:01
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d_wgeez the more I read about it the more complex this openstack looks :)22:02
metralheh22:02
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Sam-I-Amheh22:02
Sam-I-Amnawww, its super simple22:02
d_wSam-I-Am: we wouldn't be here if it was super simple :)22:03
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Sam-I-Ami thought we all just liked to talk about how easy it is :)22:04
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d_wow.. yeah.. it's super easy.. I just call a company and they do that for me :)22:04
Sam-I-Amheh22:05
d_wjust for neutron you need a team of experts from each area22:05
Sam-I-Amha22:05
Sam-I-Amreally though... the whole thing is probably more complex than anything else i've ever done22:06
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Sam-I-Amright now i have a working install of havana with neutron, just not quite sure WHY it works22:07
dsockwellso i have this neutron issue...22:08
Sam-I-Amdont we all?22:08
dsockwellseriously, this project has had the most interesting coincidences22:08
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sgranmine works ...22:08
* sgran runs22:08
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dsockwellGET HIM22:08
sgran:)22:08
sgranalthough we use it fairly simply22:09
sgranno NAT, no l3 routers22:09
d_wha! dhcp kiddie :)22:09
dsockwellmmm.22:09
sgranno metadata helpers22:09
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Sam-I-Amsgran: vlans?22:09
sgranjust dhcp, lbaas, and ipam22:09
sgranyes22:09
dsockwellyeah the dhcp agent is failing to respond22:09
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Sam-I-Ami'd be curious to try vlan mode22:09
dsockwelli'm seeing dhcp requests on the internal bridge but there's no response on tcpdump or evident within the guest22:10
Sam-I-Amalmost seems like less moving parts within openstack22:10
d_wi'd be curious to try openflow mode.. in large deployment22:10
sgranwe already have nice network kit22:10
Sam-I-Amdsockwell: which docs did you follow?22:10
sgranwe figured we'd let it do its job :)22:10
d_wsgran: what kit u got?22:11
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Sam-I-Amin the end i probably will need to write 'packages' for each kind of network... gre, vlan, vxlan/vtep, etc22:11
dsockwellSam-I-Am: follow http://docs.openstack.org/network-admin/admin/content/openvswitch_plugin.html22:11
dsockwellfollow http://docs.openstack.org/network-admin/admin/content/dhcp_agent_ovs.html22:11
dsockwellfrom my notebook22:11
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Sam-I-Amis this havana?22:12
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sgrand_w: all sorts of cisco routing/switching, juniper firewalls, stingray load balancers, etc22:12
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sgranwhy fix what ain't broke? :)22:12
dsockwellSam-I-Am: yes, havana22:12
d_wsgran: yes.. but in STP or fabricpath?22:12
sgranit's part of a UCS deployment22:13
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d_wah.. hmm.. well..22:13
dsockwellconfiguration - this is on an all-in-one node with nova, glance, cinder, horizon, keystone, and for some reason ceilometer22:13
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Sam-I-Amdsockwell: well, i was using the havana install docs and neutron never worked.  but it does after taking some goodies from the unofficial grizzly guide.  but... they all assume separate hosts for controller/network/compute nodes22:14
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Sam-I-Ami tried collapsing controller/network and... it was bad.22:14
d_wSam-I-Am: it works on 1 node if you know what u doing :)22:15
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Sam-I-Amd_w: i dont know what i'm doing!22:15
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d_wSam-I-Am: welcome to the club :)22:15
Sam-I-Amdsockwell: you might take a look at the single-node unofficial grizzly docs22:15
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d_wSam-I-Am: networking is quite hard.. for sysadmins who didn't do much networking before22:16
Sam-I-Amjust s/quantum/neutron/22:16
Sam-I-Amd_w: yeah.  i'm actually a network guy most recently.22:16
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Sam-I-Ami can build one hell of a service provider network... but... this neutron stuff... wow. the concepts of gre and virtual switches isn't new, but how they're implemented on linux is new... and weird.22:17
evanjfraserheyas, has anyone here used the redhat RDO to deploy openstack?  I've got one production grizzly deployment that I did manually on ubuntu, but I prefer RHEL.22:17
evanjfraserwondered if anyone had any experience with RDO that was positive or negative22:18
evanjfraserand I'm about to setup a 2nd production openstack environment22:18
d_wevanjfraser: on last meetup we had guy from UK who was coding the RDO.. so.. he said it works great :)22:18
dsockwellSam-I-Am: ok, i'll hunt those down22:18
Sam-I-Amdsockwell: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst22:18
evanjfraserd_w: good to know.22:19
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Sam-I-Amsomeone in here posted this: http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail22:19
Sam-I-Aminteresting read22:19
Sam-I-Amand it'll make your head 'splode22:19
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evanjfraseryeah, quantum/neutron certainly has complexities.22:20
d_wSam-I-Am: oh that's a nice one..22:20
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Sam-I-Ami wonder if it'll be any easier when the underlying goo gets offered in hardware network gear22:21
d_wSam-I-Am: oh that's a nice one..22:21
evanjfraserour setup was a bit more complex as we use physical switches + routers to route the vlan traffic22:21
evanjfraserrather than through a "network node"22:21
evanjfraserand F5's for load balancing22:21
KaZeRhey folks. I have always had issues with quantum and rabbitmq, but since this morning it's really terrible. none of my messages in the queue are being acknoledged.22:21
KaZeRcan anyone help with that?22:22
d_whaha another one :)22:22
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Sam-I-Amevanjfraser: well, yeah... and minus all of the funky bridge stuff going on to make a box that isn't a switch more like a switch22:22
evanjfraserhehe yeah22:22
Sam-I-AmKaZeR: rpc timeout?22:22
evanjfraserstill using ovs everywhere though, it rocks22:22
KaZeRSam-I-Am: yes. i used to have them from time to time, but today i can't even spin up an instance22:23
Sam-I-Amwelcome to the club of rpc issues22:23
occup4ntIf I don't associate a user with a tenant at create time, how can I do it after the fact? I've been struggling with keystone for a bit here and I'm not seeing how to do it.22:23
Sam-I-AmKaZeR: is this on havana?22:23
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KaZeRyeah i've been in the club since a while, but today i can't even work22:23
d_woccup4nt: you could do it via mysql :)22:24
KaZeRSam-I-Am: no grizzly. i read a bug report last week saying that this should be solved in havana. is it? don't break my hopes!22:24
Sam-I-Amoh... well the problem i've been seeing is in havana.  so, you might have a slightly different reason for that error.22:24
Sam-I-Amis this a new install?22:24
KaZeRSam-I-Am: no this stack has been running for ~2 months22:25
Sam-I-Amoh22:25
Sam-I-Amok, ours have all been new builds22:25
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Sam-I-Ami gotta run to a meeting for a bit... but pastebin your error.  i'm interested in seeing what it is.22:26
Sam-I-Amthere's also more qualified folks in here :)22:26
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KaZeRwell the error is pretty common :) http://bpaste.net/show/OjqXUPcRuwx6hF0Yyrfd/22:27
KaZeRTimeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response.22:27
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KaZeRand : TimeoutError: QueuePool limit of size 5 overflow 10 reached, connection timed out, timeout 3022:28
KaZeR(i have 1 controller, 1 network node and 7 compute nodes)22:30
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elfelvinjust incase anyone was interested to the query i had earlier, you can add multiple ip's to a port by using a list - "neutron port-update 9dc6f21d-6dfe-4123-8639-9c9fbb71ae92 --fixed-ips type=dict list=true ip_address=192.168.102.12 ip_address=192.168.102.13"22:35
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booiIf i run keystone with OS_USERNAME and OS_PASSWORD set, i can run commands (for example: keystone user-role-list)22:45
booibut if i first do a token-get22:45
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booiand run keystone --os-token "<token>" user-role-list22:46
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booiit says i need to provide the endpoint?22:46
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rockeyyou need endpoint for os environment variables aswell22:50
rockeyenv | grep OS_22:50
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booirockey: so the OS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT is required for all keystone requests?22:52
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rockeyeither that or --os-endpoint=, yes22:53
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occup4ntd_w:  heh, I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to that. A lot of "how to add users" tutorials don't mention specifying a tenant when you do a user-add, and imply that user-role-add also assigns a tenant. the redhat docs even explicitly state this. but... it's not true.23:16
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dsockwelli found a possible cause of my dhcp issues, my bridges aren't coming up on boot23:22
d_woccup4nt: i had similar issue with region.. mysql fixed it :)23:23
dsockwelli've tried all my debian-fu to try to bring them online at boot, but they're still down at startup :(23:24
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dsockweller, passed it a pre-up script :\ something tells me i'm missing a simple thing23:28
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Sam-I-AmKaZeR: huh, your error is a lot more... 'clean' than mine was23:53
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KaZeRSam-I-Am: well.. thanks, i do my best :D23:58
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