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Sam-I-Am | well, i'm temporarily out of errors | 00:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | wonder if i can start a vm | 00:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, closer.. | 00:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | yay, got a vm to start | 00:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | except neutron is not returning anything for port-list | 00:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, at this point i really have no idea whats going on | 01:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | the vm has no ethernet interface | 01:06 |
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occupant | try doing an ifup | 01:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | the device does not exist | 01:09 |
Sam-I-Am | for some reason its not getting a nic | 01:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | no networks listed in 'nova list' | 01:11 |
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lkthomas | hey guys | 04:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | yo | 04:06 |
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lkthomas | Sam-I-Am: do you write program on openstack ? | 04:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont write code | 04:06 |
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lkthomas | it seems engineer role is getting less and less valuable on OpenStack/Linux field | 04:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | howso? | 04:12 |
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lkthomas | deployment of openstack getting easiler | 04:13 |
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lkthomas | most of the distribution contain one click installation | 04:13 |
Sam-I-Am | oh, i dont think its easy | 04:13 |
lkthomas | it will get easy soon | 04:14 |
lkthomas | I saw Ubuntu Juju yesterday | 04:14 |
lkthomas | demo I meant | 04:14 |
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lkthomas | create and link service on GUI is nothing easy like that before | 04:14 |
Sam-I-Am | it needs to be a bit easier... too many moving parts to debug when it breaks | 04:14 |
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lkthomas | I am planning to get involve more on deployment and maybe study how to code on simple python so that I could automate some task | 04:15 |
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lkthomas | one thing that is hard for me using bash because of RESTful API | 04:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah... | 04:17 |
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lkthomas | question on object storage, can I do a directory or file list on object storage server ? | 04:17 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont know, havent messed with that yet | 04:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm guessing the db stores the list of contents | 04:18 |
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lkthomas | hmm | 04:18 |
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Hurricane_4ndr3w | Go | 05:40 |
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lari__ | I need to reserve/release an ip from an external system when creating or deleting an instance in OpenStack. What's the best way to approach this? I've been reading the source but still having hard time figuring out where to put my code | 05:49 |
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PS | hello | 06:20 |
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Guest32258 | I have a problem on configuring openstack | 06:21 |
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Guest32258 | I setup the openstack controller and compute on two separate VM on Centos | 06:21 |
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Guest32258 | and I followed this guideline for the setup "http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf" | 06:22 |
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Guest32258 | when performing "Booting an Image", the VM instance can be created as below | 06:23 |
Guest32258 | | 0fffe52c-1ea5-4066-821b-8bfd83d2b9d9 | cirrOS | BUILD | spawning | NOSTATE | vmnet=10.0.0.2 | | 06:23 |
Guest32258 | however, I cannot ping or ssh the ip address of 10.0.0.2 | 06:23 |
Guest32258 | can advise what I should check? | 06:24 |
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chandankumar | Guest17461, Have you add the security group rules like icmp? | 06:26 |
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numero | Hello | 06:26 |
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chandankumar | Guest32258, Have you add the security group rules like icmp? | 06:27 |
Guest32258 | these two commands, rite? | 06:27 |
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Guest32258 | nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/0 | 06:27 |
Guest32258 | nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 06:27 |
chandankumar | yes | 06:27 |
Guest32258 | I have added already | 06:27 |
chandankumar | Guest17461, if not working try with network networking | 06:28 |
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chandankumar | *neutron | 06:28 |
chandankumar | Guest17461, or ask in #openstack-neutron channel. | 06:28 |
Guest32258 | um.. | 06:29 |
sgran | Guest32258: if it stays in BUILD/NOSTATE, that means the compute node probably hasn't started to build it yet | 06:30 |
Guest32258 | do you mean the one documented in the PDF cannot work? | 06:30 |
dsockwell | chandankumar: thanks for mentioning that, i didn't know there were breakout channels for those services | 06:30 |
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Guest32258 | sorry | 06:30 |
Guest32258 | I copied the wrong status | 06:30 |
Guest32258 | | 0fffe52c-1ea5-4066-821b-8bfd83d2b9d9 | cirrOS | ACTIVE | None | Running | vmnet=10.0.0.2 | | 06:30 |
sgran | ok, that's fine | 06:30 |
sgran | that should be pingable from something on the same network | 06:31 |
Guest32258 | cannot be ping. I observed one message in /var/log/messages | 06:31 |
Guest32258 | Nov 6 12:32:57 compute1 dnsmasq-dhcp[2485]: DHCPRELEASE(br100) 10.0.0.2 fa:16:3e:61:15:35 unknown lease | 06:31 |
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Guest32258 | when I use | 06:33 |
Guest32258 | when I use "nova show" command to check the VM instance | 06:33 |
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Guest32258 | no error message | 06:33 |
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Guest32258 | it looks like the IP address cannot be allocated to the VM instance, this is why I cannot ping or access it | 06:34 |
Guest32258 | any idea? | 06:34 |
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sgran | have you logged into the VM with a console? | 06:39 |
sgran | you can try logs and so on there to see | 06:39 |
sgran | where is the neutron-dhcp-agent running? | 06:39 |
sgran | can you see DHCP requests on that host? | 06:39 |
Guest32258 | I am not running neutron... | 06:39 |
Guest32258 | accroding the the setup PDF, it is "the legacy networking in OpenStack Compute, with a flat network, that takes care of DHCP." | 06:40 |
sgran | nova-network, then | 06:40 |
sgran | well, I don't use that, so I can't help much | 06:40 |
Guest32258 | :( | 06:40 |
sgran | but the principle is the same - there is code on some host that spawns and configures dnsmasq | 06:40 |
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sgran | dnsmasq should have be running, and you should be able to look at its config file and see an entry for your host | 06:41 |
sgran | if all that is correct, then see if you can see DHCP traffic | 06:41 |
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Guest32258 | yes. the process is running | 06:42 |
Guest32258 | root 2486 2485 0 12:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --conf-file= --pid-file=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.pid --listen-address=10.0.0.1 --except-interface=lo --dhcp-range=set:vmnet,10.0.0.2,static,255.255.255.0,120s --dhcp-lease-max=256 --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf --dhcp-script=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge --leasefile-ro --domain=novalocal --no-hosts --a | 06:42 |
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Guest32258 | and I check on the /var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf | 06:42 |
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Guest32258 | [root@compute1 ~]# cat /var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf fa:16:3e:78:0e:1b,cirros.novalocal,10.0.0.2 | 06:42 |
Guest32258 | entry is there | 06:42 |
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Guest32258 | but 10.0.0.2 is not accessible | 06:49 |
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sgran | can you VNC into the guest and see what it sees? | 06:56 |
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sgran | can you tcpdump on the host running dnsmasq and see what it sees? | 06:56 |
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Guest32258 | oo great hinits | 06:58 |
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Guest32258 | I found an error when using the vnc | 06:58 |
Guest32258 | the error is | 06:58 |
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Guest32258 | "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i586 CPU" | 06:59 |
Guest32258 | "unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU" | 06:59 |
Guest32258 | but strange | 06:59 |
Guest32258 | my CPU is 64 bits | 06:59 |
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sgran | I assume the compute host is running a 32 bit kernel or something? | 07:00 |
Guest32258 | [root@compute1 ~]# uname -a Linux compute1 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 16 18:37:12 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 07:00 |
Guest32258 | it should be a x86_64 | 07:00 |
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enarciso | hello; I've been following this scenario: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-network/admin/content/under_the_hood_openvswitch.html | 07:01 |
enarciso | my physical interface are trunk (eth1.80) and my br-ex have port eth1.80 | 07:02 |
enarciso | is trunk* | 07:02 |
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enarciso | everything seems to work but I cannot ping the floatingip address | 07:02 |
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enarciso | I've already set the my secgroup properly | 07:03 |
enarciso | to allow icmp | 07:03 |
enarciso | & ssh | 07:03 |
enarciso | I'm wondering if I'm missing anything since I can't ping my floatingip address | 07:04 |
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enarciso | nvm; i forgot to install quantum-l3-agent package | 07:19 |
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sheldonh | Sam-I-Am: that question i linked you to yesterday has received an answer. it's a docbug; failure to recommend installation of the openvswitch-datapath-dkms package on ubuntu | 07:48 |
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Guest32258 | any idea what VM instance failed to start due to "kernel only detect an i586 CPU". | 08:55 |
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ekarlso- | BobBallAway: ping | 08:57 |
sgran | Guest32258: on the compute host; do virsh list; virsh dumpxml <instance name> | 08:58 |
sgran | what does the definition say about the vcpu? | 08:58 |
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Guest32258 | <vcpu placement='static'>1</vcpu>? | 09:00 |
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Guest32258 | is it related to single cpu? | 09:03 |
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sgran | there should be something in the xml about the architecture | 09:05 |
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Guest32258 | this one? | 09:06 |
Guest32258 | <os> <type arch='x86_64' machine='rhel6.4.0'>hvm</type> <boot dev='hd'/> <smbios mode='sysinfo'/> </os> | 09:06 |
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sgran | right, that seems ok | 09:06 |
Guest32258 | but the cirros 64 bits image cannot be run | 09:07 |
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sgran | look at /var/lib/nova/instances/<instance uuid>/console.log | 09:11 |
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Guest32258 | -rw-rw---- 1 qemu qemu 0 Nov 6 17:15 console.log | 09:17 |
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Guest32258 | no log | 09:17 |
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Guest32258 | any idea? | 09:41 |
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sheldonh | sgran: made progress on yesterday's neutron problem -- the ubuntu install guide forgets to tell GRE users to install openvswitch-datapath-dkms. will file a PR. and then the next problem is that it forgets to tell you to set quantum_admin_password, so the metadata servers pukes. and i'm *convinced* once i get that sorted out, neutron will be working for me! yay! | 10:09 |
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decede | If im using gre tunneling on the compute nodes I only need one network interface? | 10:23 |
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sheldonh | decede: the docs suggest at least two on the compute nodes (management and data). it's not clear to me whether each compute node is also supposed to get a third nic for external, or whether that's only the dedicated network node | 10:25 |
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sheldonh | decede: that said, i think GRE makes it possible to avoid that advice and create management problems for yourself :) | 10:26 |
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decede | ye I've been following the docs (Debian install guide) but I think ive only configured the one interface | 10:26 |
decede | on the compute node that is | 10:27 |
decede | must have missed somthing | 10:27 |
sheldonh | bugger. neutron_admin_password *is* set in /etc/nova/nova.conf. back to the drawing board with my failing metadata server | 10:29 |
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Guest32258 | sgran. even follow http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/qemu.html, the VM instance still fail to start | 10:33 |
SebastianKreutzb | Hi! Does it actually make sense to install OpenStack on Xenserver in production? | 10:33 |
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SebastianKreutzb | we need to better automate the whole VM lifecycle and directly working with Xenserver’s API is horror. Plus it does not have any account management, etc. - Is Xen a good, or maybe even recommended platform to host an openstack environment? | 10:34 |
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sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: i don't know anybody who's still in love with xen | 10:36 |
dsockwell | xenserver's functionality is pretty redundant when compared to openstack | 10:37 |
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dsockwell | hypervisor, openvswitch, guest management | 10:37 |
SebastianKreutzb | I agree. Unfortunately the company here sits on a fresh, new 3 years contract with Xen, so we need to stick to it. | 10:37 |
dsockwell | there is supposed to be support in openstack for xenapi | 10:38 |
dsockwell | i've never looked at it | 10:38 |
SebastianKreutzb | so what do you guys normally do? put it on bare metal? | 10:38 |
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dsockwell | that's what i'm doing | 10:38 |
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SebastianKreutzb | just found that Rackspace is using Xen for their OpenStack, hmmm. http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/why-rackspace-uses-xen-for-openstack-video.html | 10:39 |
dsockwell | xen and xenserver are two different things | 10:39 |
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dsockwell | when rackspace and amazon (you'll find they use xen too) built their clouds, Xen was as good as it got | 10:40 |
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dsockwell | but it's not clear to me whether they use Citrix XenServer(TM) or just Xen | 10:41 |
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sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: read all the way to *why* they're using xen :) | 10:42 |
sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: boils down to "cause we already have a lot of xen" | 10:42 |
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SebastianKreutzb | hmm, like we do ... - and xen is so hard to automate. The api is horrible. but I don’t know if it really makes sense to put a virtualization on top of another virtualization? | 10:43 |
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dsockwell | well Openstack isn't a hypervisor by itself | 10:43 |
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sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: it's okay for rackspace to find themselves in a tiny minority because they own so much of the world's openstack skill. others might not want to find themselves quite so far from the support mainstream | 10:43 |
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dsockwell | if the compatibility table is to believed, OpenStack will happily drive XenServer without a second hypervisor | 10:43 |
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SebastianKreutzb | dsockwell: how do you mean that? | 10:44 |
SebastianKreutzb | there is a native support for XenServer in OpenStack? | 10:44 |
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decede | going by the user survey 5% of people using openstack use XenServer as there hypervisor (71% are on kvm) | 10:44 |
sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: we're not talking about running openstack inside Xen domains. we're talking about openstack managing Xen domains | 10:44 |
SebastianKreutzb | exactly | 10:45 |
dsockwell | right, so an Openstack head node (or several) with a pile of XenServer boxes behind it doing the VM work | 10:45 |
SebastianKreutzb | correct | 10:45 |
dsockwell | that's supposed to work | 10:45 |
lkthomas | guys, can I still use openstack dashboard if I only run object storage server ? | 10:46 |
sheldonh | and 5% of us can help you with it ;) | 10:46 |
dsockwell | that's 140 of the people in here | 10:46 |
dsockwell | including you | 10:46 |
SebastianKreutzb | sheldonh: 5% of many is more than 100% of 0 xenserver api fellows | 10:46 |
lkthomas | anyone going to Redhat Party tonight ? | 10:46 |
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dsockwell | oh, you should know that there's a big party in hong kong this week and everyone's wasted | 10:47 |
sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: i wonder how openstack works with something where the api is shit. you'd think it'd... still suck | 10:47 |
SebastianKreutzb | one last question: the Openstack head node can be in a VM in the xenserver openstack is managing? | 10:47 |
lkthomas | dsockwell: where ? | 10:47 |
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dsockwell | lkthomas: i told you, hong kong | 10:47 |
lkthomas | dsockwell: the summit, I know | 10:47 |
lkthomas | dsockwell: I am asking anyone in Hong Kong going to Redhat Party tonight | 10:48 |
dsockwell | the point being i'm not there and i'm trying to set up openstack on my own | 10:48 |
lkthomas | LOL | 10:48 |
dsockwell | so i'm bitter | 10:48 |
sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: that doesn't sound like a great idea to me :) | 10:48 |
dsockwell | might be asking for trouble, yes | 10:48 |
lkthomas | seems no expert around here at this moment | 10:48 |
sheldonh | yeah, bitterness! hope you party people all get neutron in your drinks! | 10:48 |
lkthomas | everyone is in the summit now | 10:49 |
SebastianKreutzb | ok, I think I need to call the data center guys. if they sold my former boss Xen in 2013 then they maybe never heard of OpenStack. Thanks again for your help! | 10:49 |
dsockwell | i'd hope you all get incredibly hung over, but that wouldn't really help me | 10:49 |
lkthomas | LOL | 10:50 |
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stan_ivanov | Anyone knows how to use block_device_mapping ? | 10:55 |
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stan_ivanov | I tried using it, but my instace is stuck in "Block device mapping" state | 10:55 |
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lkthomas | I am still trying to understand advantage of object storage | 10:56 |
sheldonh | lkthomas: it's a developer thing. if you don't think you need it, you don't | 10:56 |
sheldonh | lkthomas: it's just an HTTP filesystem designed to scale | 10:57 |
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lkthomas | I kind of understand it could call using RESTful API, but how does it save cost compare with block storage file system | 10:59 |
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lkthomas | I also understand each object might be anything, for example on Youtube, each object is a video | 11:01 |
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lkthomas | so on swift, object copy 3 times | 11:06 |
lkthomas | how does it save cost like this compare with RAID5 ? | 11:06 |
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sheldonh | lkthomas: for me, siwftr is so completely different from RAID that i can't answer the question | 11:11 |
sep | lkthomas, object copy 3 times to nodes in 3 different datacenters , raid is normaly inside 1 host. and when that host, rack, datacenter, network or transit isp dies or have problems. so does the object. | 11:11 |
sheldonh | lkthomas: i would use RAID in the storage backend servers so that i could replace failed disks at my convenience | 11:12 |
sep | its like comparing an apple to a fruit garden | 11:12 |
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lkthomas | sep: understood | 11:12 |
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lkthomas | OpenStack technology seems landing exactly on service provider | 11:12 |
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lkthomas | whenever user need to access object storage, it have to use a custom made apps which call RESTful API, am I correct ? | 11:13 |
lkthomas | I assume general user don't know how to use curl to write a GET request :P | 11:14 |
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lkthomas | I think one of the most advancement on OpenStack is that it could utilize object storage to store VM image | 11:16 |
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lkthomas | sep: is that correct ? | 11:17 |
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sgran | sheldonh: hurrah :) | 11:24 |
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iwi | hi there, is it possible to share a network to restricted number of tenants (in havana)? | 11:27 |
sgran | Guest32258: I don't understand what's going on with your issue | 11:27 |
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ogzy | is there any crowbar xen integration? so that new vms will use xapi instead of quemu or kvm. | 11:29 |
sgran | if virsh thinks it's presenting a 64bit cpu and your guest doesn't see a 64bit cpu, that's just odd | 11:29 |
lkthomas | sgran: shouldn't be | 11:29 |
lkthomas | sgran: OS check the register mask | 11:29 |
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lkthomas | brb | 11:34 |
sheldonh | well, except for https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1210664, obvoiusly ;) | 11:34 |
lkthomas | heading to redhat party in Hong Kong | 11:34 |
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sheldonh | anyone know what mistake causes the neutron metadata agent to error with "EndpointNotFound: Could not find Service or Region in Service Catalog"? | 11:40 |
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sheldonh | in /etc/nova/nova.conf, should neutron_admin_auth_url be http://controller:35357/v2.0 or http://controller:5000/v2.0? | 11:59 |
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sheldonh | looks like: http://controller:35357/v2.0 | 12:17 |
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drazyl | I have controller:5000 | 12:17 |
sheldonh | interesting.... | 12:18 |
sheldonh | drazyl: thanks for taking the time to look it up for me | 12:18 |
drazyl | sheldonh: no problem, seems to work like that with my setup | 12:19 |
sheldonh | cool | 12:20 |
sheldonh | Sam-I-Am: here are the doc bugs i've run into with neutron. finally got an instance to boot correctly under neutron! https://gist.github.com/sheldonh/7335178 | 12:20 |
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sheldonh | fucking hell. your first successful boot on neutron is like completing nethack! | 12:21 |
sheldonh | (hopefully somewhat easier to repeat) | 12:21 |
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sheldonh | drazyl: 5000 works for me too. i'm gonna change it. thanks :) | 12:23 |
drazyl | cool, glad to help | 12:24 |
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wink | anyone got an idea how to inject network config params to instances? (got 2 networks, so eth0/eth1 get configured *somehow* correctly, but not perfect) | 12:45 |
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sheldonh | grrrr. "Additionally, you must set the newly created br-ex interface to have the IP address that formerly belonged to EXTERNAL_INTERFACE." how are they expecting us to do that? /etc/network/interfaces appears to be too soon | 13:12 |
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stan_ivanov | Anyone knows how can I use "-block-device" documented here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BlockDeviceConfig ? | 13:20 |
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krypto | is there any file where dnsmasq saves ip mac details | 13:24 |
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sgran | yes | 13:25 |
sgran | if you look at dnsmasq's command line, there are several files listed. One of them will have those details | 13:26 |
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kbringard | I think by default it's /var/lib/quantum/dhcp/<subnet-uuid>/host | 13:27 |
sgran | neutron these days :) | 13:27 |
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kbringard | ah, right, sorry, in grizzly it's still quantum, in havana it's neutron | 13:27 |
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kbringard | and sorry, it's the net-uuid, not the subnet uuid | 13:29 |
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wink | is that dhcp bug fixed in neutron/havana? with DNS names missing and just ip-x-y-z-w.tld? | 13:31 |
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krypto | thank you all,but aren't those leases that hosts received? | 13:33 |
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scsnow | Hi, is it possible to disable image caching under /var/lib/nova/instances/_base, so instance image /var/lib/nova/instances/{uuid}/disk will point directly on base image in glance i.e. /var/lib/glance/images/{uuid_of_base_image}? | 13:36 |
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dkuffner | Hello, How can I define user-data in a heat template? | 13:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | morning guys | 13:46 |
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drazyl | afternoon | 13:48 |
Sam-I-Am | $timeofday guys | 13:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | so apparently sheldonh got a vm to boot... and so did i yesterday | 13:49 |
Sam-I-Am | however, my vm has zero network interfaces | 13:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure exactly where to start debugging this one | 13:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | could be an install problem, could be the instructions for creating neutron networks and launching a vm, could be my VM settings (the compute node is running on a vm right now) | 13:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | sure is quiet... | 14:32 |
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kbringard | Sam-I-Am: everyone is at the summit | 14:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats kind of what i figured | 14:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | and i'm kind of stuck on something :/ | 14:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | guess i should have gone to the summit! | 14:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | hummm this looks like an openvswitch problem | 15:14 |
Sam-I-Am | (not surprised) | 15:14 |
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wahly | my VMs are not getting addresses from DHCP after a fresh buildout (using puppet modules i created). i have 1 setup that is working fine (as configured by puppet), but the 2nd setup is not providing DHCP ips to the VMs. anyone have ideas on where to being troubleshooting this? | 15:26 |
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wahly | i have done tcp dumps, and i see the packets making it from the compute node to the bridged interface on the network/control node, but i'm not sure where to go from here | 15:27 |
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Chocobo | "Physical volumes that are needed on the Cinder host begin with "a". The array must end with "r/.*/"" Physcial volumes that are needed FOR cinder? Or volumes that are needed for the host, but NOT for cinder? | 15:28 |
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drazyl | wahly what base os you using? | 15:33 |
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wahly | drazyl: CentOS6.4 | 15:37 |
wahly | running grizzly | 15:37 |
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Chocobo | Does anything look odd about this cinder URL? I am getting a malformed url error: http://10.0.0.20:8776/v1/$(tenant_id)s | 15:49 |
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drazyl | % not $ | 15:50 |
drazyl | (if in keystone) | 15:50 |
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Chocobo | drazyl: hrmmm... ok. thanks. I wonder how that got in there. | 15:51 |
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Chocobo | Hrmmm, changing that didn't seem to help | 15:53 |
Chocobo | From debug output this is the url that is generated: http://10.0.0.20:8776/v1/592758ab227e41a8adb6ea1e223459a1/volumes/detail | 15:54 |
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Chocobo | Hrmmm I don't get it: http://pastie.org/pastes/8459967/text | 15:56 |
Chocobo | it looks fine | 15:56 |
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drazyl | check the cinder logs (/var/log/cinder/cinder-api.log perhaps) to see if there is more info there | 16:05 |
Chocobo | drazyl: there isn't. Hrmmm, I wonder if I have to have nova installed before "cinder list" will work :/ I wouldn't think so. | 16:06 |
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drazyl | Chocobo no, that shouldnt be needed | 16:07 |
drazyl | keystone authentication working ok etc | 16:07 |
Qlawy | I perfer to use UUID tokens, but perhaps its irrelevant | 16:07 |
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SebastianKreutzb | I have issues with installing OpenStack via DevStack on XenServer. When I run ./install_os_domU.sh the error "ERROR: multiple hosts found. This might mean that the XenServer is a member | 16:09 |
SebastianKreutzb | of a pool " appears. Which is correct. Does anyone know how to use Devstack with a multi-host XenServer? | 16:09 |
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Chocobo | Qlawy: remind me how to use UUID tokens... I know I need to set to token_format=UUID... but isn't there something else I need to change? | 16:13 |
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monst | anyone familiar with SSO using x-auth headers via Proxy? | 16:18 |
Chocobo | Ah, well.. I think I got UUID tokens woeking, same Malformed URL error :( | 16:18 |
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epsas | hmm - was wondering if anyone had hardware suggestions for building a cheap & low power openstack setup | 16:20 |
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Chocobo | Interestingly I don't see the malformed url error in any of the cinder logs :/ | 16:21 |
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devoid | epsas: what are your power requirements? | 16:21 |
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epsas | oh man, less than 5 amps ideally | 16:23 |
epsas | 110VAC | 16:23 |
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epsas | ideally just a couple amps | 16:24 |
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Chocobo | volume_driver=cinder.volume.driver.ISCSIDriver vs volume_driver=cinder.volume.drivers.lvm.LVMISCSIDriver | 16:27 |
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devoid | epsas: how many vms are you trying to support and why are you choosing open stack for that? | 16:28 |
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drazyl | Chocobo no idea, using Ceph | 16:28 |
drazyl | epsas and what is your budget | 16:28 |
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epsas | drazyl - mostly api testing - bringing up instances, setting up virtual networks and storage -- running tests... and then bringing the whole shebang down to repeat the process | 16:35 |
epsas | my budget would probably be small to begin with < $1,000 | 16:35 |
epsas | s/would probably/will | 16:36 |
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muehsi | I am using devstack with neutron + restproxy plugin. I do get an error: (Table 'restproxy_neutron.quotas' doesn't exist") - I do not know how to fix it.. | 16:37 |
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devoid | epsas: with that budget, I'd suggest repurposing existing hardware. One management node with 2 or 3 compute + storage nodes. | 16:38 |
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mdorman | i am seeing rpc timeout errors from nova-network when creating an instance. | 16:45 |
mdorman | 2013-11-06 09:45:01.926 15250 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp Timeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "network", RPC method: "deallocate_fixed_ip" info: "<unknown>" | 16:45 |
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mdorman | trying to confirm what service is responsible for handling the deallocate_fixed_ip call. is that nova-api? | 16:46 |
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devoid | mdorman: used to be nova-network | 16:46 |
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devoid | mdorman: so down the neutron pipe if you're running that | 16:47 |
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mdorman | not running neutron now, still just nova-network | 16:47 |
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mdorman | actaully looks like it might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1017633 | 16:47 |
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devoid | possibly, I got similar problems (deallocate_fixed / floating_ip fails) and always had to dig into the database and see if anything was set wrong. | 16:49 |
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mdorman | devoid: that's where i'm headed next | 16:51 |
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monst | is it possible to to log into horizon with x-auth header or x-auth-token? | 16:59 |
monst | could really use some feedback | 16:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | mdorman: i've had that error with neutron | 17:02 |
Sam-I-Am | mdorman: not exactly sure how i fixed it though :/ | 17:02 |
mdorman | haha | 17:02 |
mdorman | we are going to try removing and recreating the network again | 17:03 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: You cranking out VMs yet? | 17:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yes, but they lack eth interfaces for some reason | 17:04 |
Sam-I-Am | so i got past that rpc problem | 17:04 |
Sam-I-Am | just... moved on to another problem! | 17:04 |
CaptainTacoSauce | any idea how? just got lost in the rebuild? | 17:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | how i fixed the rpc problem? | 17:04 |
CaptainTacoSauce | aye | 17:05 |
CaptainTacoSauce | since I'm still stuck on it :D | 17:05 |
Sam-I-Am | i mentally merged the unofficial grizzly docs with the official havana docs | 17:05 |
Sam-I-Am | there's a lot of stuff missing from the latter | 17:05 |
CaptainTacoSauce | but only just now back, had to put out the fires with the old system | 17:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you want we can compare some config files in a bit... i have notes on specifically what i added/changed/deleted | 17:05 |
CaptainTacoSauce | alright yeah I'm just trying to remember what I'm doing in here | 17:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | haha, did you try drinking first? | 17:06 |
Sam-I-Am | it takes the edge off | 17:06 |
Sam-I-Am | :P | 17:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | i gotta run for about 30 mins, then i'll be back here | 17:07 |
Sam-I-Am | not that my config is correct, but it got me further | 17:07 |
CaptainTacoSauce | cool cool, later man | 17:08 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | still on coffee, beer comes later | 17:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yo | 17:52 |
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mdorman | have a situation where nova-network is not adding the network's bridge_interface to the bridge for that network. was there something in the config i have to set to make it actaully add it to the bridge? | 18:35 |
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Qlawy | monst: show us nova network-show your_network | 18:36 |
Qlawy | mdorman: ↑ | 18:36 |
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Qlawy | mdorman: if network was created correctly, nova should create bridge automatically | 18:37 |
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Qlawy | mdorman: in other case set debug=true and check nova-network.log or network.log (depends on your conf) | 18:38 |
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mdorman | actually i see the problem now. bridge_interface=br1706 and bridge=1706. bridge_interface needs to be bond0.1706 | 18:39 |
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Qlawy | mdorman: :) | 18:43 |
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mdorman | sometimes it just takes some help to see the obvious! | 18:45 |
Sam-I-Am | i need to figure out my issue still :/ | 18:45 |
Sam-I-Am | creating the neutron networks/subnets/routers/whatever seems to work, but my VM has no eth interface... and there's no port associated with it either | 18:46 |
Qlawy | mdorman: agree :) | 18:46 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: ee… vm without eth0? Perhaps wrong image? Did you try with cirros? | 18:47 |
Qlawy | cirros ftw! | 18:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm using cirros | 18:47 |
Qlawy | uh Oo | 18:47 |
Sam-I-Am | not sure why its not getting an eth interface | 18:47 |
Qlawy | very strange | 18:47 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: show us neutron port-list | 18:48 |
Sam-I-Am | i am running this test compute node as a VM if that has any effect | 18:48 |
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Sam-I-Am | i.e., as libvirt qemu rather than kvm | 18:48 |
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Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: i need to recreate the neutron networks... deleted all of it thinking i goofed up | 18:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | but, when it was running, neutron port-list showed nothing for the tenant | 18:50 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: strange still | 18:51 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: my lab is on vmware vms | 18:51 |
Qlawy | ok, its all-in-one installation | 18:51 |
Sam-I-Am | well, its further than i got before... at least i can launch a VM | 18:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | i have three nodes... controller, network, and compute. all VMs on VMware. | 18:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | libvirt complained on the compute node due to lack of hardware support, so i had to change some stuff in it | 18:51 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: do you have ESX 5.1? | 18:52 |
Sam-I-Am | i also made some other changes to libvirt as described in the 'unofficial' grizzly on ubuntu docs | 18:52 |
Sam-I-Am | 5.5, but its more or less 5.1 | 18:52 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: anyway you HAVE to had promiscousysusdasdasdasda mode on | 18:53 |
Qlawy | promisc* :) | 18:53 |
SebastianKreutzb | Hi! I got the job from my company to introduce a private cloud and want to go with openstack. we already have 6 monster servers (400 GB RAM each) and I thought I could use them as first nodes for Openstack. Now I have 2 questions relating best practices: | 18:53 |
Qlawy | anyway, use you vCenter web client | 18:53 |
Sam-I-Am | on the VM interfaces? | 18:53 |
Qlawy | then update hardware to v9 | 18:53 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: on vmware vswitch | 18:53 |
SebastianKreutzb | 1. should we use XEN or VMWare as hypervisor or can openstack do that by itself? | 18:54 |
Sam-I-Am | ahh, yeah i guess that would make sense | 18:54 |
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Qlawy | next expand CPU and there is sth about enable virtualisationd | 18:54 |
Sam-I-Am | my first install was on bare hardware, so i didnt think about it | 18:54 |
Qlawy | and voila | 18:54 |
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Qlawy | you have full virtualisation in vm :D | 18:54 |
Sam-I-Am | cool, i was wondering if there was a trick to that | 18:54 |
Sam-I-Am | lemmie try this stuff... | 18:54 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: give me a momemnt, need to read it :P | 18:54 |
mjeanson | Hi, is it an expected behavior that the system clock of a resumed guest will be late by the time it was suspended? (with kvm) | 18:54 |
Sam-I-Am | do you know if snapshots on v8 hardware work with v9? | 18:55 |
Sam-I-Am | because all my snaps are v8 | 18:55 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: yes it does | 18:55 |
Sam-I-Am | cool | 18:55 |
ajo | SebastianKreutzb, why not KVM? | 18:55 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: openstack is not hypervisor | 18:55 |
ajo | around 71% users use KVM according to stats.. | 18:55 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: you have to use kvm/xen/vmware as hypervisor | 18:55 |
SebastianKreutzb | KVM would be also fine. but one of the guys wants Windows VMs, too. Is that possible? Or is it even possible to go without that and let OpenStack be the hypervisor? | 18:56 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: sry | 18:56 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: ↑ | 18:56 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: ofc! | 18:56 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: windows vms works perfectly on kvm | 18:56 |
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ajo | yes, they do | 18:56 |
SebastianKreutzb | ah okay. I was often reading something about "installing openstack on bare metal", thought that would be it | 18:56 |
Sam-I-Am | i think openstack might even support hyper-v heh | 18:56 |
Qlawy | and again OpenStack is NOT a hypervisor | 18:56 |
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ajo | Openstack it's not the hypervisor, | 18:56 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: yes it is, but you shoudl read that flame war on openstack dev list :P | 18:57 |
ajo | this phrase is repeating a lot lately... :-) | 18:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | wait, what? flame wars for open source projects? tell me it aint so! | 18:57 |
Qlawy | anyway SebastianKreutzb use what you want, but KVM and Xen are most tested with openstack | 18:57 |
SebastianKreutzb | and what about the network security? Does OpenStack take care for that? I mean can I put all KVM servers in one network and OpenStack rules with own security groups the security? | 18:58 |
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ajo | syes | 18:58 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: hmm… its a bit more complicated | 18:58 |
ajo | it's more complicated, but yes... | 18:58 |
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SebastianKreutzb | more complicated? | 18:58 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: most secure is neutron + some plugins or nova-network with vlans but its obsolete now | 18:59 |
ajo | you can make several private virtual networks ... | 18:59 |
d_w | SebastianKreutzb: neutron plugin needs to support it.. | 18:59 |
SebastianKreutzb | ah like at AWS? | 18:59 |
Qlawy | and you can but not have to separate them on L2 | 18:59 |
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Qlawy | No idea how AWS works | 18:59 |
SebastianKreutzb | so if I put all VMs in one network then they can "see" each other? | 18:59 |
Qlawy | yes | 19:00 |
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Qlawy | how many projects do you have? | 19:00 |
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ajo | yes, but you can have several Virtual Networks over the same physical network,... | 19:00 |
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SebastianKreutzb | projects are something like accounts, right? | 19:00 |
Qlawy | no | 19:00 |
Qlawy | or hmm | 19:00 |
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Qlawy | what dou you mean saying account? | 19:00 |
Qlawy | account = user? | 19:00 |
ajo | and neutro will take care of keep them separated to each other (using VLANs, GRE or VXLANs...) with the openvswitch plugin, | 19:00 |
Qlawy | if yes, then no | 19:00 |
ajo | you have plugins from more vendors | 19:01 |
SebastianKreutzb | no I mean like a company account at AWS which can have several users | 19:01 |
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ajo | yes | 19:01 |
ajo | you can have several users, several projects... | 19:01 |
Qlawy | and domains now :P | 19:01 |
ajo | shared networks between projects, or privated networks f... | 19:01 |
ajo | domains... what's that? %) | 19:01 |
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Qlawy | ajo: keystone v3 | 19:01 |
ajo | I'm obsolete... | 19:01 |
Qlawy | ajo: believe me, its pain in the ass | 19:02 |
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ajo | hahahaha | 19:02 |
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ajo | what are they for? | 19:02 |
Qlawy | ajo: you cant use standard cli with that :/ | 19:02 |
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Qlawy | a lot of changes in there | 19:02 |
SebastianKreutzb | and per project I can define a private network? | 19:02 |
Qlawy | ajo: in v3 you have: domains with projects and users in it | 19:03 |
ajo | SebastianKreutzb: yes | 19:03 |
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SebastianKreutzb | and is setting up of a private network "just some clicks in the frontend" or do I need to deep-dive into config files for that? | 19:03 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: forntends are evil! | 19:04 |
SebastianKreutzb | an API is also fine | 19:04 |
Qlawy | using openstack clients are very comfortable | 19:04 |
Qlawy | is*? | 19:05 |
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Qlawy | anyway, you have set of commands: keystone, glance, nova, neutron, cinder, swift(if you need it) … | 19:05 |
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SebastianKreutzb | what project takes care for the private networks? | 19:05 |
Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: where do you see this virtualization-in-a-vm feature? | 19:05 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: w8 moment, I will paste you an image | 19:06 |
Sam-I-Am | thanks! | 19:06 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: On the Virtual Hardware tab, expand CPU, and select Expose hardware-assisted virtualization to guest OS. | 19:06 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: stil looking for image | 19:07 |
Qlawy | http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-51/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.vm_admin.doc%2FGUID-2A98801C-68E8-47AF-99ED-00C63E4857F6.html | 19:07 |
Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: thanks, looking for it now | 19:08 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: http://demijnzia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/vsphere-web-1.png | 19:08 |
SebastianKreutzb | ajo: in what openstack project(?) is the private networking located? and can I do that fully via API (or frontend)? | 19:08 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: yes you can | 19:09 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: neutron or obsolete now nova-network | 19:09 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: you need just that first one, counters are not important | 19:09 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: ↑ | 19:10 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: and it has to be done in web client, there is no such option in vSphere Client | 19:10 |
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SebastianKreutzb | so I need to tell the data center guys just to setup one standard internal network and all openstack servers consume that and openstack takes care for the virtual private networking. that’s cool | 19:10 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: sth like that | 19:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: yeah... i dont quite have this test setup in vsphere yet... guess i either need to find it or figure out the config directive | 19:11 |
ajo | yes | 19:11 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: I will show you sth | 19:11 |
ajo | usually you have a public network | 19:11 |
ajo | where you route externals IP to | 19:11 |
ajo | and an internal network | 19:11 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: my favorite link: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide | 19:12 |
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ajo | where all host talk internally... and share put the virtualized networks | 19:12 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: you can have 2 internal networks too, one for hmm management, and one, faster for vms flow | 19:12 |
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Qlawy | but with neutron ajos concept is pretty good | 19:13 |
ajo | yes, openstack is highly customizable for everything | 19:13 |
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Qlawy | its why I love it | 19:13 |
Qlawy | ok, like… | 19:13 |
Qlawy | ;) | 19:13 |
ajo | haha | 19:13 |
ajo | :D | 19:13 |
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SebastianKreutzb | thanks, that helped me already a lot to get the concept. today I tried to install openstack on our xenserver cluster but I failed because all devstack instructions are just for a single xenserver cluster, hmmm | 19:14 |
ajo | You can even make it work with just one network interface (poor's man openstack) | 19:14 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: I have devstack! | 19:15 |
Qlawy | hate* | 19:15 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: srsly, use link I posted | 19:15 |
ajo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEa_8ESxPAY&feature=youtu.be | 19:15 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: OVS_MutliNode is what you need/want | 19:15 |
ajo | this is a video about how to deploy multihost with GRE/VXLAN | 19:15 |
ajo | using packstack | 19:15 |
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SebastianKreutzb | money and stuff is not a problem at us, I was hired to actually reduce the complexity. so less networks, less real servers and so on is better. and it’s great to hear that openstack virtualizes all this stuff, too. | 19:16 |
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ajo | if you like the red path... | 19:16 |
ajo | it also takes care of storage, if you have not specialized hardware | 19:16 |
SebastianKreutzb | ajo: so this video shows xenserver cluster installation? sorry that I am so not-understanding all that :( | 19:16 |
ajo | no | 19:16 |
Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: dammit, my hardware is too old | 19:16 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: crap :( | 19:17 |
ajo | it shows multi node , KVM based | 19:17 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: no EPT? | 19:17 |
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SebastianKreutzb | OVS_MutliNode I can also use for Xen? | 19:17 |
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ajo | you like Xen for some special reason? | 19:18 |
Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: looks like i'll need to fire up another compute node on bare hardware | 19:18 |
SebastianKreutzb | no, but the company just recently signed a long-year contract with a data center about a large xenserver cluster. and then they fired the guy who decided it. and now I took over :( | 19:18 |
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SebastianKreutzb | and the company would love to see not have all the money burned for nothinfg | 19:19 |
Chocobo | Odd.. I created a cinder volume (| a1e06d82-8826-4189-8966-7a77952aabaf | error | test | 1 | None | false | |) and there are no error messages in the log files :/ | 19:19 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: I see no problems I think | 19:19 |
Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: wondering if its easy to move these config files from the vm'd compute node to a hardware one and it Just Works... as oppose to deleting it from the controller | 19:19 |
Sam-I-Am | although i think the compute nodes check in dynamically via rabbit | 19:19 |
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Qlawy | Chocobo: set debug or at least verbose to true in cinder configs | 19:19 |
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Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: just copy-paste and change my_ip in nova.conf | 19:20 |
Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: thx. time for some more hours of fun :/ | 19:20 |
Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: do it tomorrow :P | 19:21 |
Sam-I-Am | lol | 19:21 |
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Chocobo | Qlawy: I have both of those set. | 19:22 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/category/neutron-basic-rdo-setup/ Im not sure if it will help you, but check this out | 19:22 |
Qlawy | Chocobo: cinder show a1e06d82-8826-4189-8966-7a77952aabaf | 19:22 |
SebastianKreutzb | what application or instruction or secret source of information would you guys recommend for a openstack newbie who was confronted with a xenserver cluster? I mean just some very basic stuff that I just see the openstack management frontend? | 19:22 |
Qlawy | Chocobo: if I remember good | 19:23 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: docs.openstack.org | 19:23 |
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Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: just start with nova-network, and when you figure out how it works, try to migrate to neutron | 19:23 |
Qlawy | or just start it from scratch | 19:23 |
Qlawy | but you need few days to understand how it works | 19:24 |
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SebastianKreutzb | ok. I try to wrap my mind around it. that xenserver cluster makes it unnecessary hard I think, but maybe I can bite through | 19:24 |
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Chocobo | Qlawy: I just deleted the volume and recreated it. I got this in cinder-volume.log: OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/volumes' | 19:27 |
Chocobo | that directory doesn't even exist. I must have a path error wrong somewhere. | 19:28 |
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Qlawy | Chocobo: what the… Oo | 19:28 |
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Qlawy | Chocobo: I maybe know what is wrong but do not remember options name | 19:29 |
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Qlawy | its sth like volume_path or so | 19:29 |
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SebastianKreutzb | oh, one more thing. does it matter what distro the control node (is that the correct name) has? is ubuntu fine? | 19:29 |
Qlawy | its where volume xmls are stored afair | 19:29 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: yes it is | 19:29 |
Qlawy | SebastianKreutzb: ubuntu has nice repo with openstack packages | 19:30 |
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Chocobo | Qlawy: #state_path=$pybasedir | 19:31 |
* Chocobo slaps his forehead | 19:31 | |
Qlawy | Chocobo: nope | 19:31 |
Qlawy | Chocobo: dont be so harsh :P | 19:31 |
Chocobo | That didn't fix it anyway :P | 19:32 |
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SebastianKreutzb | devstack recommends to install openstack as VM on the same xenserver (cluster) where it creates its own openstack VMs. that’s not cool right? | 19:39 |
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SebastianKreutzb | I mean the cloud controller should be on a different server right? | 19:39 |
d_w | SebastianKreutzb: why? | 19:40 |
d_w | SebastianKreutzb: doesn't matter where controller sits as long as it runs | 19:40 |
SebastianKreutzb | ok | 19:40 |
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Chocobo | Got bast the last error, now I have this: 2013-11-06 19:39:38 ERROR [cinder.scheduler.filters.capacity_filter] Free capacity not set: volume node info collection broken. && 2013-11-06 19:39:38 ERROR [cinder.scheduler.manager] Failed to schedule_create_volume: No valid host was found. | 19:41 |
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Chocobo | huh, it looks like it just needed some time. It just started working. Cool | 19:53 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | So Google suggests this error is benign? TRACE neutron.openstack.common.rpc.amqp AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'refresh_firewall' | 20:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: you got a new error? | 20:18 |
CaptainTacoSauce | seems like it | 20:18 |
CaptainTacoSauce | I tried adding a second network like sgrace suggested. | 20:19 |
Sam-I-Am | huh | 20:19 |
Sam-I-Am | well, if you want to compare config files... | 20:19 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | sure, might as well | 20:19 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | starting to get that 'rip it out and redo it' feeling again :P | 20:19 |
Sam-I-Am | haha | 20:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, if you just followed the official docs, there's missing stuff which may cause this problem | 20:20 |
Sam-I-Am | i sort of mentally merged the unofficial grizzly docs with the official havana docs | 20:21 |
Sam-I-Am | and made notes of the differences | 20:21 |
CaptainTacoSauce | yeah, I'd thought about doing that but I need to merge in a third guide for a single flat network :P | 20:21 |
Sam-I-Am | oh my | 20:22 |
Sam-I-Am | well, at least with these changes maybe you could start a VM up | 20:22 |
CaptainTacoSauce | what's your network layout look like? | 20:22 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm pretty much using the unofficial grizzly doc layout | 20:22 |
Sam-I-Am | controller+net+compute | 20:22 |
CaptainTacoSauce | I mean, are you just using VMs? one flat network or VLANs or? | 20:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | the grizzly doc has me assigning fixed 'public' IPs to my VMs | 20:23 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm still a little confused on the network designs | 20:23 |
Sam-I-Am | i just dont like the rpc error of dooooom | 20:24 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | mm alright | 20:24 |
CaptainTacoSauce | alright so what'd you add to these config files then? :D :D | 20:24 |
CaptainTacoSauce | before someone blows up the old platform again | 20:25 |
Sam-I-Am | one sec.. | 20:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | want to start with the controller node? | 20:26 |
CaptainTacoSauce | sure | 20:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | http://pastebin.com/nAB4d7PS | 20:29 |
Sam-I-Am | thats nova.conf | 20:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | http://pastebin.com/JhggxEz0 | 20:34 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | thanks, already got pulled away, that didn't take long | 20:35 |
Sam-I-Am | haha | 20:35 |
Sam-I-Am | sounds like my days | 20:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | what i need to do is post all my config files somewhere | 20:36 |
Sam-I-Am | not that my config actually works, but its closer than i've ever been before | 20:36 |
sgran | where you have quantum_metadata_proxy_shared_secret = secret, don't you want to 's/quantum/neutron/' ? | 20:36 |
Sam-I-Am | i wondered about that | 20:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | since thats completely missing from the official docs | 20:37 |
sgran | pfft. grep is your friend | 20:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | not exactly sure what that thing does :/ | 20:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | sgran: did you see my note about VMs spinning up without any ethernet interface? | 20:39 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure why thats happening | 20:39 |
Sam-I-Am | but at least i'm past the rpc error | 20:39 |
sgran | Sam-I-Am: on the compute host, does virsh dumpxml <instance-name> mention a nic ? | 20:40 |
sgran | if so, grep for that nic in /proc/net/dev | 20:40 |
sgran | does it exist? | 20:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | would running the compute node as a VM on a host that can't pass HW virtualization to guests matter? | 20:42 |
Sam-I-Am | thats kind of where i wound up | 20:42 |
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sgran | does the compute host have access to network device that it can create things on? eg, linuxbridge, openvswitch ? | 20:43 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm running openvswitch on there | 20:44 |
sgran | if you run ovs-vsctl show, do you see the devices you expect? | 20:44 |
sgran | or in cat /proc/net/dev ? | 20:44 |
Sam-I-Am | durr, too bad you werent around earlier. i started building a non-VM compute node. let me get to where i can launch a VM on the previous system and run those commands. | 20:46 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | wow yeah your nova.conf was totally different | 20:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | that was one of the files that changes quite a bit based on the grizzly docs | 20:47 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | okay so I think I'm caught up, so far still broken | 21:03 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | oooo!! progress!! I can actually delete my dead nova entries now | 21:03 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | okay, I take it back, I'm not still broken, the VM booted!! | 21:05 |
Sam-I-Am | ok, does it have an eth interface? | 21:05 |
Sam-I-Am | cuz if it does, i hate you :) | 21:05 |
CaptainTacoSauce | hmm, how do I tell? I don't have horizon yet so I can't console in | 21:05 |
CaptainTacoSauce | time to add horizon? :P | 21:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | there should be vnc listening on port 5900 of your compute node | 21:06 |
CaptainTacoSauce | hmm okay let me play with it | 21:06 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | eth0 exists, but no IP assigned | 21:09 |
sinh | hi. . if i have multiple vlans trunked to a single port. . do i need to create a different physnet# for each of the ethX.vlan interfaces? | 21:09 |
sinh | and is there anyone that has set up openstack to not use private ips and a nat but instead just assigning public ips to it (without floating ips)? | 21:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: hummm interesting | 21:11 |
CaptainTacoSauce | related error message in /var/log/neutron/server.log: 2013-11-06 15:04:28.361 1125 WARNING neutron.db.agentschedulers_db [-] Fail scheduling network {'status': u'ACTIVE', 'subnets': [u'595b2e7d-1d44-4c68-916e-fdcdf0510004'], 'name': u'MY_FLAT_NET', 'provider:physical_network': u'physnet1', 'admin_state_up': True, 'tenant_id': u'b5c7b74027be444b8422b90d4a06f3ef', 'provider:network_type': u'flat', 'router:external': False, 'shared': False, 'id | 21:12 |
CaptainTacoSauce | ': u'379108f0-8501-4b97-a0cf-a08fdde607fb', 'provider:segmentation_id': None} | 21:12 |
CaptainTacoSauce | I'm sure I just jacked up the neutron config somewhere. | 21:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | what docs are you using to define your networks? | 21:13 |
Sam-I-Am | i was using the stuff from grizzly, but that also got me no eth interface... so... trying again | 21:13 |
CaptainTacoSauce | so your cirros vm just has lo and that's it? | 21:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | i had pulled down my compute node to make it into a real machine since my hardware is too old to support nested hypervisors | 21:14 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, one sec trying to boot another vm | 21:14 |
Sam-I-Am | i re-did the network conf | 21:14 |
CaptainTacoSauce | my neutron config files are glued together from like 10 different sites hence why I have like no faith in them | 21:14 |
Sam-I-Am | oh huh weird, i have eth0 now | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | and it has an IP | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | let me see if it works | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | holycrap, it does | 21:15 |
CaptainTacoSauce | hahaha | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | i can ping 4.2.2.2 | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | how about this... | 21:15 |
Sam-I-Am | https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst#5-your-first-vm | 21:16 |
CaptainTacoSauce | let me just blow away my openvswitch and do it again | 21:16 |
Sam-I-Am | try configuring your networks based on that info | 21:16 |
Sam-I-Am | and be careful about tenant IDs and such | 21:16 |
Sam-I-Am | they kind of switch around in the middle | 21:16 |
Sam-I-Am | (which is what i think got me) | 21:16 |
CaptainTacoSauce | hmm okay, I'll check it out | 21:17 |
Sam-I-Am | sgran: so... looks like following the grizzly instructions for tenant/net creation and then booting a VM woks | 21:17 |
Sam-I-Am | works | 21:17 |
CaptainTacoSauce | so what was our problem with the rpc message? did we get a lesson learned? it looks like you have to hand feed nova and tell it where neutron lives instead of nova just asking keystone | 21:17 |
ekarlso- | Sam-I-Am: what hypervisor you running on as default ? | 21:18 |
Sam-I-Am | for this test lab, esx | 21:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | i am going to move the compute node to bare hardware | 21:19 |
Sam-I-Am | but vm'ing it for now let me take snapshots and revert | 21:19 |
Sam-I-Am | now to figure out WHY this works | 21:19 |
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ekarlso- | Sam-I-Am: what you think of xenserver ? | 21:19 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | you mean nova is a vm running in esx? I think he meant what hypervisor is nova using? | 21:20 |
Sam-I-Am | uh, i've never used it | 21:20 |
CaptainTacoSauce | I'd assume KVM | 21:20 |
Sam-I-Am | oh, nova wants to use kvm, but since i can't pass cpu vm extensions to vms, i have to use qemu for now | 21:21 |
Sam-I-Am | which.. kvm more or less does anyway | 21:21 |
CaptainTacoSauce | so ekarlso- if that's what you mean, you want openstack to spin up xenserver VMs, I believe it is a supported config if you want to go down that route, but the docs are all for KVM | 21:22 |
sgran | Sam-I-Am: hurrah :) | 21:23 |
Sam-I-Am | sgran: yeah, really | 21:23 |
Sam-I-Am | time to throw a party | 21:23 |
Sam-I-Am | but only after we get CaptainTacoSauce working | 21:23 |
Sam-I-Am | sgran: so i think those grizzly docs are pretty good | 21:24 |
Sam-I-Am | because what i merged from them into the havana docs Magically Works | 21:24 |
CaptainTacoSauce | haha yeah I think I've made my own mess, I'm just happy to get past that cryptic rpc error :D | 21:24 |
Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: i still dont know what caused that, but pretty sure the nova.conf i pasted had something to do with it | 21:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | i also noticed the order in which the grizzly docs deploy services is a bit different | 21:25 |
CaptainTacoSauce | yes I think so, there are several lines in your nova.conf that tell it directly how to talk to neutron, I didn't have any of that | 21:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's other stuff dotted around too | 21:26 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm still posting bug reports :/ | 21:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | think i've hit 8 of 18 so far today | 21:27 |
Sam-I-Am | now is a good opportunity to snapshot all of these systems... | 21:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | break out the compute node, and then try configuring horizon/cinder/whatever | 21:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: get pulled away again? | 21:37 |
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CaptainTacoSauce | oh not exactly, just ripping apart the neutron config, I feel like I'm close now :D | 21:37 |
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d_w | ah rpc problems.. | 21:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | yup | 21:40 |
CaptainTacoSauce | yeah plaguing us for weeks now :P | 21:40 |
Sam-I-Am | seemed like nova compute would toss something into the rabbit queue and it never got a response | 21:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | at least thats the best i could do... debugging a rabbit queue is painful | 21:40 |
d_w | I have to revisit my openstack VM.. neutron rpc seems to be failing me.. no idea if I missed something in config or what | 21:40 |
CaptainTacoSauce | sounds a lot like what we had | 21:41 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 21:41 |
Sam-I-Am | what was your exact error message? | 21:41 |
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d_w | i'm too lazy to start it today :) but basically request to spin vm is timing out with neutron plugin in error message.. | 21:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think my error appeared in nova-compute.log on the compute box | 21:43 |
Sam-I-Am | but there were many many... many...... errors before i even got there :/ | 21:43 |
d_w | ah.. mine didn't.. | 21:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | the first errors i found were in the openvswitch stuff | 21:44 |
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elfelvin | i have a public net with public subnet created, how can I assign multiple IP's to a single instance? I am not talking about floating IP's I mean another IP from the local public subnet. | 21:49 |
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d_w | elfelvin: via puppet/chef or so having secondary IPs is guest configuration.. | 21:53 |
metral | anyone have experience setting up VPNaaS? would love some help | 21:53 |
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d_w | metral: you mean mpls? :) | 21:54 |
ekarlso- | d_w: no neutron vpnaas I guess | 21:55 |
d_w | ekarlso-: so you want network between VMs? | 21:55 |
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metral | no, the extension vpn for neutron | 21:55 |
ekarlso- | d_w: .... metral that asked :) | 21:55 |
metral | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/VPNaaS | 21:55 |
metral | :D | 21:56 |
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d_w | ah.. wonder what the use case for that would be.. | 21:56 |
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elfelvin | d_w: its not a matter of configuring it on the client instance, its more of how neutron handles it? i have tried to add another port with "neutron port-create ext_net --mac-address fa:16:3e:ac:80:e2" but it says the mac is already in use. | 21:57 |
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elfelvin | how do i "assign" an ip from the pool to a specific instance? | 21:57 |
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metral | one usecase: ipsec tunnel between openstack deployments | 21:58 |
d_w | because actually most of networks build something like overlay (aka VPN) for clouds.. | 21:58 |
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d_w | all qfabric/fabricpath/OTV/.. network equipment is building VPN for you.. so ipsec just adds overhead.. | 22:00 |
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d_w | but of course cloud in cloud might be something where vpnaas could make sense | 22:00 |
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metral | yea | 22:01 |
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d_w | geez the more I read about it the more complex this openstack looks :) | 22:02 |
metral | heh | 22:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | heh | 22:02 |
Sam-I-Am | nawww, its super simple | 22:02 |
d_w | Sam-I-Am: we wouldn't be here if it was super simple :) | 22:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | i thought we all just liked to talk about how easy it is :) | 22:04 |
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d_w | ow.. yeah.. it's super easy.. I just call a company and they do that for me :) | 22:04 |
Sam-I-Am | heh | 22:05 |
d_w | just for neutron you need a team of experts from each area | 22:05 |
Sam-I-Am | ha | 22:05 |
Sam-I-Am | really though... the whole thing is probably more complex than anything else i've ever done | 22:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | right now i have a working install of havana with neutron, just not quite sure WHY it works | 22:07 |
dsockwell | so i have this neutron issue... | 22:08 |
Sam-I-Am | dont we all? | 22:08 |
dsockwell | seriously, this project has had the most interesting coincidences | 22:08 |
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sgran | mine works ... | 22:08 |
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dsockwell | GET HIM | 22:08 |
sgran | :) | 22:08 |
sgran | although we use it fairly simply | 22:09 |
sgran | no NAT, no l3 routers | 22:09 |
d_w | ha! dhcp kiddie :) | 22:09 |
dsockwell | mmm. | 22:09 |
sgran | no metadata helpers | 22:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | sgran: vlans? | 22:09 |
sgran | just dhcp, lbaas, and ipam | 22:09 |
sgran | yes | 22:09 |
dsockwell | yeah the dhcp agent is failing to respond | 22:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'd be curious to try vlan mode | 22:09 |
dsockwell | i'm seeing dhcp requests on the internal bridge but there's no response on tcpdump or evident within the guest | 22:10 |
Sam-I-Am | almost seems like less moving parts within openstack | 22:10 |
d_w | i'd be curious to try openflow mode.. in large deployment | 22:10 |
sgran | we already have nice network kit | 22:10 |
Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: which docs did you follow? | 22:10 |
sgran | we figured we'd let it do its job :) | 22:10 |
d_w | sgran: what kit u got? | 22:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | in the end i probably will need to write 'packages' for each kind of network... gre, vlan, vxlan/vtep, etc | 22:11 |
dsockwell | Sam-I-Am: follow http://docs.openstack.org/network-admin/admin/content/openvswitch_plugin.html | 22:11 |
dsockwell | follow http://docs.openstack.org/network-admin/admin/content/dhcp_agent_ovs.html | 22:11 |
dsockwell | from my notebook | 22:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | is this havana? | 22:12 |
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sgran | d_w: all sorts of cisco routing/switching, juniper firewalls, stingray load balancers, etc | 22:12 |
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sgran | why fix what ain't broke? :) | 22:12 |
dsockwell | Sam-I-Am: yes, havana | 22:12 |
d_w | sgran: yes.. but in STP or fabricpath? | 22:12 |
sgran | it's part of a UCS deployment | 22:13 |
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d_w | ah.. hmm.. well.. | 22:13 |
dsockwell | configuration - this is on an all-in-one node with nova, glance, cinder, horizon, keystone, and for some reason ceilometer | 22:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: well, i was using the havana install docs and neutron never worked. but it does after taking some goodies from the unofficial grizzly guide. but... they all assume separate hosts for controller/network/compute nodes | 22:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | i tried collapsing controller/network and... it was bad. | 22:14 |
d_w | Sam-I-Am: it works on 1 node if you know what u doing :) | 22:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | d_w: i dont know what i'm doing! | 22:15 |
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d_w | Sam-I-Am: welcome to the club :) | 22:15 |
Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: you might take a look at the single-node unofficial grizzly docs | 22:15 |
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d_w | Sam-I-Am: networking is quite hard.. for sysadmins who didn't do much networking before | 22:16 |
Sam-I-Am | just s/quantum/neutron/ | 22:16 |
Sam-I-Am | d_w: yeah. i'm actually a network guy most recently. | 22:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | i can build one hell of a service provider network... but... this neutron stuff... wow. the concepts of gre and virtual switches isn't new, but how they're implemented on linux is new... and weird. | 22:17 |
evanjfraser | heyas, has anyone here used the redhat RDO to deploy openstack? I've got one production grizzly deployment that I did manually on ubuntu, but I prefer RHEL. | 22:17 |
evanjfraser | wondered if anyone had any experience with RDO that was positive or negative | 22:18 |
evanjfraser | and I'm about to setup a 2nd production openstack environment | 22:18 |
d_w | evanjfraser: on last meetup we had guy from UK who was coding the RDO.. so.. he said it works great :) | 22:18 |
dsockwell | Sam-I-Am: ok, i'll hunt those down | 22:18 |
Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 22:18 |
evanjfraser | d_w: good to know. | 22:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | someone in here posted this: http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 22:19 |
Sam-I-Am | interesting read | 22:19 |
Sam-I-Am | and it'll make your head 'splode | 22:19 |
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evanjfraser | yeah, quantum/neutron certainly has complexities. | 22:20 |
d_w | Sam-I-Am: oh that's a nice one.. | 22:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | i wonder if it'll be any easier when the underlying goo gets offered in hardware network gear | 22:21 |
d_w | Sam-I-Am: oh that's a nice one.. | 22:21 |
evanjfraser | our setup was a bit more complex as we use physical switches + routers to route the vlan traffic | 22:21 |
evanjfraser | rather than through a "network node" | 22:21 |
evanjfraser | and F5's for load balancing | 22:21 |
KaZeR | hey folks. I have always had issues with quantum and rabbitmq, but since this morning it's really terrible. none of my messages in the queue are being acknoledged. | 22:21 |
KaZeR | can anyone help with that? | 22:22 |
d_w | haha another one :) | 22:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | evanjfraser: well, yeah... and minus all of the funky bridge stuff going on to make a box that isn't a switch more like a switch | 22:22 |
evanjfraser | hehe yeah | 22:22 |
Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: rpc timeout? | 22:22 |
evanjfraser | still using ovs everywhere though, it rocks | 22:22 |
KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: yes. i used to have them from time to time, but today i can't even spin up an instance | 22:23 |
Sam-I-Am | welcome to the club of rpc issues | 22:23 |
occup4nt | If I don't associate a user with a tenant at create time, how can I do it after the fact? I've been struggling with keystone for a bit here and I'm not seeing how to do it. | 22:23 |
Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: is this on havana? | 22:23 |
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KaZeR | yeah i've been in the club since a while, but today i can't even work | 22:23 |
d_w | occup4nt: you could do it via mysql :) | 22:24 |
KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: no grizzly. i read a bug report last week saying that this should be solved in havana. is it? don't break my hopes! | 22:24 |
Sam-I-Am | oh... well the problem i've been seeing is in havana. so, you might have a slightly different reason for that error. | 22:24 |
Sam-I-Am | is this a new install? | 22:24 |
KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: no this stack has been running for ~2 months | 22:25 |
Sam-I-Am | oh | 22:25 |
Sam-I-Am | ok, ours have all been new builds | 22:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | i gotta run to a meeting for a bit... but pastebin your error. i'm interested in seeing what it is. | 22:26 |
Sam-I-Am | there's also more qualified folks in here :) | 22:26 |
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KaZeR | well the error is pretty common :) http://bpaste.net/show/OjqXUPcRuwx6hF0Yyrfd/ | 22:27 |
KaZeR | Timeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response. | 22:27 |
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KaZeR | and : TimeoutError: QueuePool limit of size 5 overflow 10 reached, connection timed out, timeout 30 | 22:28 |
KaZeR | (i have 1 controller, 1 network node and 7 compute nodes) | 22:30 |
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elfelvin | just incase anyone was interested to the query i had earlier, you can add multiple ip's to a port by using a list - "neutron port-update 9dc6f21d-6dfe-4123-8639-9c9fbb71ae92 --fixed-ips type=dict list=true ip_address=192.168.102.12 ip_address=192.168.102.13" | 22:35 |
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booi | If i run keystone with OS_USERNAME and OS_PASSWORD set, i can run commands (for example: keystone user-role-list) | 22:45 |
booi | but if i first do a token-get | 22:45 |
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booi | and run keystone --os-token "<token>" user-role-list | 22:46 |
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booi | it says i need to provide the endpoint? | 22:46 |
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rockey | you need endpoint for os environment variables aswell | 22:50 |
rockey | env | grep OS_ | 22:50 |
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booi | rockey: so the OS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT is required for all keystone requests? | 22:52 |
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rockey | either that or --os-endpoint=, yes | 22:53 |
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occup4nt | d_w: heh, I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to that. A lot of "how to add users" tutorials don't mention specifying a tenant when you do a user-add, and imply that user-role-add also assigns a tenant. the redhat docs even explicitly state this. but... it's not true. | 23:16 |
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dsockwell | i found a possible cause of my dhcp issues, my bridges aren't coming up on boot | 23:22 |
d_w | occup4nt: i had similar issue with region.. mysql fixed it :) | 23:23 |
dsockwell | i've tried all my debian-fu to try to bring them online at boot, but they're still down at startup :( | 23:24 |
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dsockwell | er, passed it a pre-up script :\ something tells me i'm missing a simple thing | 23:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: huh, your error is a lot more... 'clean' than mine was | 23:53 |
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KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: well.. thanks, i do my best :D | 23:58 |
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