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| mrproper | I am trying to install DevStack but when I run the stack.sh script I get an error saying Could not determine host ip address. Either localrc specified dhcp on or defaulted. | 04:31 |
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| mrproper | What does that mena? | 04:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does the box have an ip? | 04:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | does /etc/hosts agree with it? | 04:32 |
| mrproper | Yes it does. | 04:32 |
| mrproper | I only have 127.0.0.1 and ::1 in hosts | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | you need to add the box's hostname and its real IP in there | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | specifying the ip in localrc may also work | 04:34 |
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| mrproper | Do I need to restart anything after editing hosts | 04:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | usually no | 04:34 |
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| mrproper | I already have the IP address stated in FLOATING_RANGE as well | 04:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | make sure you did all the prereqs before running stack.sh | 04:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think the directive for that is something like "host_ip" or whatever | 04:35 |
| mrproper | http://devstack.org/guides/single-machine.html <-- Reading from this | 04:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 04:37 |
| mrproper | Now it appears to be working. I had to specify host_ip | 04:37 |
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| mrproper | Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/audit from install of glibc-2.16-34.fc18.x86_64 conflicts with file from package audit-2.2.1-2.fc18.x86_64 | 04:43 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: That's on Fedora 18, why would I be getting that? | 04:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | some sort of package version difference | 04:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent used devstack on fedora | 04:46 |
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| mrproper | Interesting | 04:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this a clean fedora install? | 04:50 |
| mrproper | Yes it is. Installed tonight with a minimal install plus common utilities. | 04:50 |
| mrproper | Text only. | 04:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | odd. i'm not familiar with how well devstack works on fedora. | 04:51 |
| mrproper | I am looking into it. | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | google might know | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | or ask.openstack.org | 04:52 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I ran a script which seems to have fixed it. | 04:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | huh, ok | 04:58 |
| mrproper | My feeling | 04:58 |
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| mrproper | [ERROR] /home/stack/devstack/lib/keystone:378 keystone did not start <-- What debugging can I do here | 05:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keystone is | 05:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | kind of the foundation... | 05:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure why it wouldnt start | 05:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd recommend trying all this on ubuntu 12.04 or some rhel derivative | 05:17 |
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| mrproper | More tested? | 05:17 |
| mrproper | RHEL derivative being CentOS? | 05:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 05:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've never had a problem with devstack on ubuntu 12.04 | 05:19 |
| mrproper | Okay | 05:20 |
| mrproper | I'll give 12.04 a try | 05:20 |
| mrproper | I just need to switch computers to get that setup which sucks but oh well! | 05:20 |
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| mrproper | Is there a difference between getting DevStack or Havana? | 05:22 |
| clarkb | sort of, devstack deploys a development instance of openstack. it can deploy grizzly, havana, or master (icehouse) depending on how you use it | 05:24 |
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| mrproper | Would Havana be "safer"? | 05:25 |
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| clarkb | devstack isn't very "safe" :) | 05:26 |
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| mrproper | I'm evaluating what to replace VMware on my lab server with. VMware is pissing me off. | 05:27 |
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| mrproper | "Every component of your hardware isn't on the HCL, kill yourself" | 05:27 |
| mrproper | "You don't have vCenter, kill yourself" | 05:27 |
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| clarkb | devstack is a great place to start, but services don't restart after a reboot and so on. it really is intended to be used for openstack development | 05:28 |
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| mrproper | So I'd probably look at Havana moreso | 05:28 |
| clarkb | and right now the delta between master and havana is small enough that if you just want to try it with devstack either is fine | 05:28 |
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| mrproper | clarkb: I'm going to reinstall with Ubuntu 12.04 and see how Havana is | 05:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | devstack is a quick way to do a proof-of-concept with openstack | 05:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you just want to replace vmware, you can use kvm or openvz or something | 05:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is a lot more than just a vm platform | 05:42 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Yeah I'm aware, but I want to get my hands dirty with it. | 05:49 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I forgot...I have problems with the Ubuntu Netinstall | 05:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | like what? | 05:49 |
| mrproper | When it goes to download something, not sure what, it just fails and sits there. It doesn't actually download. Sits with a blank scren | 05:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything in the other consoles? | 05:51 |
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| dita | anda bermasalah dengan kartu kredit/KTA?? Kami bantu dibebas bayarkan hub. Dita 02190409949 | 05:52 |
| mrproper | It gives some messages about good signatures on package repos | 05:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats weird | 05:53 |
| mrproper | To be honest, I've had tons of problems with this server. | 05:53 |
| mrproper | VMware just isn't happy on it | 05:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | havent had that problem before either | 05:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could always install cent and try RDO | 05:53 |
| mrproper | RDO? | 05:54 |
| mrproper | I'm thinking of going to Cent | 05:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | some people in here have had luck with it. i havent tried it yet... its on my list. | 05:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | rdo is a rapid-deployment option from redhat | 05:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | its kinda like devstack but more permanent | 05:54 |
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| mrproper | Interesting | 05:54 |
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| mrproper | Based on OpenStack or separate? | 05:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | its openstack | 05:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | just pre-packaged | 05:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | your other option is going through the whole manual install | 05:55 |
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| gpanda | /msg nickserv register 1bmrlt renlet@cn.ibm.com | 05:57 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Much prefer going through pre-packaged | 05:58 |
| mrproper | No need for me to do the manual install | 05:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | for a PoC there's not | 05:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | but eventually... yes | 05:59 |
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| mrproper | It's more of a PoC for myself so I can speak to it better at work | 05:59 |
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| buddha_dai | /join #chef | 06:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it'll suck you in, heh | 06:01 |
| mrproper | I'm more of a networking guy | 06:02 |
| mrproper | So I'm hoping to get hands on with Neutron mostly | 06:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh, thats my situation too | 06:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | it'll definitely rock your noodle | 06:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | plenty of interesting "goo" under the hood | 06:02 |
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| mrproper | I need to get over the whole server thing. I like the "good ole days" where servers were servers and networks were networks | 06:03 |
| mrproper | Hoping this converts me | 06:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 06:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | good read | 06:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | just drink plenty of beer before it | 06:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron is a big holdup for lots of people... between complicated setup, troubleshooting, and because it requires both systems and network knowledge | 06:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | its also relatively new | 06:04 |
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| mrproper | Interesting | 06:04 |
| mrproper | So it's a beast | 06:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, but its not going away | 06:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | so might as well learn it | 06:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | plenty of places to find help though | 06:06 |
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| mrproper | Yeah I'm sure | 06:07 |
| mrproper | That's why I'm getting this setup | 06:07 |
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| mrproper | Also, looking for an alternative to host my server at the same time. | 06:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, i gotta run to bed | 06:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | monday is quickly approaching | 06:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | more banging-head-on-desk fun with openstack lol | 06:10 |
| mrproper | Thanks! | 06:10 |
| mrproper | Take care | 06:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure where you are, but i'll be around tomorrow during US working hours | 06:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | give or take.. | 06:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | plenty of other folks in here though | 06:11 |
| Torikun | I can noteven get devstack installed on a fresh ubuntu install =( | 06:11 |
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| mrproper | Torikun: I had the same problem | 06:14 |
| mrproper | Well actually no | 06:14 |
| mrproper | ubuntiut won't install | 06:14 |
| Torikun | wow | 06:14 |
| Torikun | no distro installes for me | 06:14 |
| Torikun | and even packstack does not work | 06:14 |
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| geoffr | Good morning all, I have a neutron based setup using GRE tunnels, when I try adding a router I get "No L3 agents can host the router" in the neutron/server.log . No google results for this error (besides actual code) any suggestions on how to troubleshoot? | 07:33 |
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| geoffr | looks like the neutron server service is unaware of the l3-agent service | 07:36 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. i have an error in nova/api.log : "NeutronClientException: 404 not found". Someone can help me? | 08:32 |
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| sebastian_kreutz | a quick one: What hypervisor is more often used with OpenStack in production: KVM or Xen? And why? | 09:02 |
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| BobBall | SebastianKreutzb: KVM is used mostly. If you ask me, it's only down to momentum. From a hypervisor perspective there is very little to chose between them, but some nova features only work with one or the other. | 09:55 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | thanks! | 09:55 |
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| BobBallAway | SebastianKreutzb: but I think you should use Xen :) | 09:56 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I know. I was playing with it last week a lot and slowly get grip. just wanted to know if there is a real reason for KVM | 09:56 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I have some questions about neutron. Someone can help me? | 10:13 |
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| ntt_ | decede: I'm using neutron with a dedicated network node and gre. 1) i have a | 10:20 |
| ntt_ | "request failed" error when vm try to reach 169.254.169.254 | 10:20 |
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| ntt_ | on the network node i see old namespaces (used with examples) also after i'm deleting neutron networks. is this correct? | 10:21 |
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| decede | ntt_: I'm not sure, you would think the old namespaces would be cleaned up | 10:24 |
| decede | but not being able to reach 169.254.169.254 might be somthing else | 10:24 |
| decede | ntt_: What guide did you follow for your setup? | 10:25 |
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| ntt_ | devede: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/demo_routers_with_private_networks_installions.html | 10:30 |
| ntt_ | another question: on the compute node i see on br-tun an interface called gre-1 (with correct values for local_ip and remote_ip). On the network node i see another inferface in br-tun with correct values for local and remote_ip, but with name gre-2. Is this correct? | 10:32 |
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| rgodinez | hi, I need to delete a non-existant compute node, so I've disabled it with nova service-disable nodename nova-compute", but it still was in the services table "nova service-list", so I've deleted it with "mysql; connect nova; delete from services where host='nodename'" , now "nova service-list" doesn't show it, but "nova hypervisor-list" does. How can I remove the host name from "nova hypervisor-list" output? | 10:37 |
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| decede | rgodinez: I'd like to know how you unregister a host as well | 11:54 |
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| rgodinez | decede: to unregister a host, the only way I've found is to modify the database as I wrote: # mysql; mysql> connect nova; mysql> delete from services where host='nodename' | 12:07 |
| rgodinez | unfortunately, now "nova service-list" doesn't show the nodename, but "nova hypervisor-list" does. Hence my question :-) | 12:08 |
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| rgodinez | I'm using grizzly btw | 12:08 |
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| decede | rgodinez: must be in another table then | 12:09 |
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| Jabadia_ | Is there an API to get nova ram_allocation_ratio ? ( which exists on nove.conf ) | 12:10 |
| sgran | no, it's not available via the API | 12:11 |
| Jabadia_ | darn. tnx. | 12:11 |
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| N3TWALK3R | Hello :) | 12:19 |
| N3TWALK3R | Looking for an Openstack Guru... anybody out there? | 12:20 |
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| sgran | presumably, you're really looking for an answer to a question | 12:23 |
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| sgran | you'll have better luck if you just ask the question, and see who answers | 12:23 |
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| strikov | Hi guys. I'm trying to deploy openstack on ubuntu 13.10 by (partially) following official guide for 12.04 (precise). Everything went well until I switched to nova. I'm trying to put correct db connection line to nova.conf but 'db sync' still fails with 'unable to open database file'. I tried connection = <..> in [DEFAULT] section, connection = <...> in [database] section, but w/o any success. | 12:30 |
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| networkpadawan | Hi all. Im looking if I can install a single openstack instance on osx (learning) but all the "guides" out there are for linux | 12:33 |
| networkpadawan | but most of the instruction are for python, which osx has....any one can shed some light? | 12:33 |
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| larsbutler | networkpadawan: probably you will have better luck learning on a virtual machine with linux | 12:35 |
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| sgran | you could probably get the api services to run on osx, with a little effort | 12:35 |
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| sgran | but the virtualization is geared towards linux | 12:36 |
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| networkpadawan | i can install virtual box, but i was thinking on why is it required to be nested on linux...is it the kernel? some dependency? | 12:37 |
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| sgran | networkpadawan: I'd suggest that you start by reading the docs | 13:16 |
| sgran | it seems from your questions that you haven't got very far in them, and having read them once will help you when you run into issues | 13:17 |
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| dobber | so, how is one going to get to know open stack, when the debian install guide does not work :( | 13:24 |
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| decede | dobber: how far have you got? | 13:46 |
| dobber | decede: nova boot does not create the kvm node | 13:47 |
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| decede | odd, anything in the nova-compute logs? | 13:49 |
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| decede | or are you on Havana and have no logs at all? | 13:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bleh | 13:55 |
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| dobber | decede: no logs at all ofc | 13:59 |
| dobber | the default procedure does not work at all | 13:59 |
| dobber | reinstalled twice | 13:59 |
| dobber | straced for 3 days already | 14:00 |
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| decede | dobber: if you can edit your openstack init.d files to get some logging | 14:01 |
| decede | the package maintainer is waiting for alioth.debian.org to be fixed before he updates the packages | 14:02 |
| dobber | you mean, add --log-file to the start | 14:02 |
| decede | ye | 14:02 |
| dobber | ok give me a minute | 14:02 |
| decede | and --log-dir | 14:02 |
| dobber | but after a few days of strace and googleing, my default is not very "default" | 14:03 |
| dobber | ok, let's see | 14:03 |
| decede | DAEMON_ARGS="--config-file=/etc/nova/nova.conf --log-dir=/var/log/nova --log-file=$NAME.log -d" | 14:04 |
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| decede | is what im using on my compute node, though I think my setup is more broken then yours | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | strace? wow | 14:05 |
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| geoffr | hi all, when you register a new endpoint for a service like neutron or cinder and those are on machines other than the controller (which only runs the neutron-service and cinder-api), what does the keystone endpoint-create look like? Are all the url's http://controller:<some port/ etc ? | 14:10 |
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| dobber | ok got some logs going | 14:14 |
| decede | cool | 14:14 |
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| dobber | ok, so | 14:16 |
| dobber | nova boot bla bla, errors with sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf env CONFIG_FILE=["/etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf etc etc | 14:16 |
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| dobber | ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded | 14:17 |
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| dobber | ok so compute cant connect to rabbit host.. | 14:20 |
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| sgran | geoffr: the endpoint in keystone is the address you would use to talk to that service | 14:22 |
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| sgran | if it is on a different machine, you'd use the address of that machine | 14:23 |
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| geoffr | sgran: ok so if I want to direct all service control via the dedicate controller all 3 urls (public,internal & admin) would have the controller as the host portion of the URL? | 14:24 |
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| sgran | yes | 14:24 |
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| geoffr | great thanks | 14:25 |
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| geoffr | so just to confirm if I have a storage box (storage1 with cinder-volume) and a controller (controller1 with cinder-api) the endpoint-create cmd would be something like: keystone endpoint-create --service-id=xxxx --publicurl=http://controller1:8776/v2/%\(tenant_id\)s --internalurl=http://controller1:8776/v2/%\(tenant_id\)s --adminurl=http://controller1:8776/v2/%\(tenant_id\)s | 14:27 |
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| sgran | that seems mainly right. The backslashes are a little worrying, but I'm sure you're just doing shell quoting at me | 14:28 |
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| dobber | 2013-11-18 14:15:13.822 5670 ERROR nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp [req-e824c48e-e164-4bdf-a4c0-43c651beea48 4695ed89e1b9491ba2a78cc090504ce1 0bbec394f1d44a449229ae6c706021f8] Exception during message handling | 14:29 |
| geoffr | the backslashes are direct cut 'n paste from the Ubuntu how to doc from the openstack site. | 14:29 |
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| geoffr | thanks again for the help, been trying for many days to get it right by myself | 14:30 |
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| sgran | can you pastebin the exception? | 14:33 |
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| sgran | knowing that there was one doesn't help me :) | 14:33 |
| __dedi__ | hi folks, | 14:33 |
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| __dedi__ | how Can I access an instance's floating ip from the instances's internal network | 14:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | __dedi__: use the network namespace on the network node | 14:39 |
| __dedi__ | Sam-I-Am: I've installed an openshift top on our openstack. The network is a ''Provider Router with Private Networks | 14:41 |
| __dedi__ | Sam-I-Am: So every instance has a private address but the openshift should configured using the floating ip address in order to resolv addresses correctly for the outside world | 14:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | er... | 14:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so i can get to my instance's floating ip from the instance itself | 14:45 |
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| * Sam-I-Am was confusing floatingip for a sec... need more coffee | 14:46 | |
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| __dedi__ | Sam-I-Am: I cannot. what did I missed? instance ip is 172.40.2.4, floating ip is 172.50.1.4 I cannot ping 172.50.1.4 at the 172.40.2.4's console | 14:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm. did you edit the security group to allow pings? | 14:48 |
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| __dedi__ | Sam-I-Am: Yes I did, and I enabled the DNS service as well as the SSH | 14:48 |
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| __dedi__ | Sam-I-Am: suddenly started! may the neutron needs time to aplly changes? | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | maybe... | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres plenty of magic involved :/ | 14:51 |
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| __dedi__ | Sam-I-Am: Thanks anyway! | 14:52 |
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| jfarschman | Diddi: Really? That's not cool. | 15:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yo? | 15:29 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Hiya! | 15:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: so i saw you fixed the metadata thing, then left me hanging all weekend! :) | 15:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i attribute my newfound alcoholism and insomnia to you :) | 15:31 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | hahaha :D | 15:32 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I thought yours was already working. | 15:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i thought so too | 15:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | but neither of them are | 15:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | (i have two separate openstack instances) | 15:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | the devstack one works fine and i tried figuring out what it was doing | 15:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but... just more forehead->desk problems | 15:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it has to be something simple | 15:34 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am out of the Chicago area. thanks for all your help last night. I was able to get CentOS 6.4 installed with the stackpack or whatever it's called installed. Took very little time and installed easily. Gotta figure it out a little, but it works | 15:36 |
| japplewhite | can someone point me to the correct channel to ask about devstack and ci issues? | 15:36 |
| mrproper | You can probably ask about devstack here. | 15:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: cool | 15:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | packstack :) | 15:37 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Yes, packstack! | 15:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to set up an rdo box... | 15:38 |
| mrproper | I am a little confused about the ports though. | 15:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ports? | 15:38 |
| mrproper | It's making me assign ports as well as the floating IP | 15:38 |
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| Chicago | mrproper, Are you safe from the storms out here yesterday? | 15:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | hey, the city speaks | 15:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can i have some deep dish pizza? | 15:39 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | heheh I'm in St Louis, we got a piece of that storm too :D | 15:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: well, there are virtual switch ports associated with each vm | 15:39 |
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| mrproper | Chicago: Yes I am. Just bad storm. Western burbs so I was fine. | 15:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: and thats how neutron internally assigns floating ips | 15:40 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: And how do I create/configure them? I didn't see an area to do that. | 15:40 |
| Chicago | I'm sure we can work out Sam-I-Am, but its best to get the pork sausage farts in person. | 15:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | the actual command is 'neutron floatingip-assign <floatingip-id> <vm-port-id> | 15:40 |
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| Chicago | mrproper, I made it without problems too thankfully! | 15:40 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I can't configure it in the UI? | 15:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: you should be able to | 15:40 |
| mrproper | Chicago: Do you have huge shoulders? | 15:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: so... | 15:41 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Hmmm okay. I couldn't find where to do that. | 15:41 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Show me /etc/neutron/metadata...conf | 15:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: on the net node? i think thats the only place it exists. | 15:41 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Yep, it's just a proxy to nova-api. | 15:41 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I'm also a little confused about how fixed IPs and floating IPs work. | 15:42 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Are floating IPs the addresses the instances get? If so, how is that different from a fixed IP? | 15:43 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | mrproper, Think of it more like a floating NAT. External connections coming in from the outside world against that floating IP will then be NAT'd against the VM you assigned it to. | 15:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah... and the fixed ip is usually the internal VM ip | 15:44 |
| mrproper | CaptainTacoSauce: The floating IP should be in the same subnet as my outside addres sspace, yes? | 15:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | it can be | 15:44 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | mrproper, So if at home, I assigned my laptop on my router's DMZ, all incoming traffic would then get forwarded to my laptop on 24.123.123.12 but my laptop still has a fixed address of 192.168.0.10 | 15:44 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | mrproper, Yes. Depends on your setup and what exactly external means in your environment, but... yes. | 15:44 |
| mrproper | Mine is at home as well, no DMZ. | 15:44 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah DMZ may make the analogy a bit more confusing but hopefully the idea came through. | 15:45 |
| mrproper | I noticed it setup a 172.21 address space for one of the spaces and 10. for the others. It doesn't sound like that should be a problem though. | 15:45 |
| mrproper | I just need to make sure I have the proper routing setup. | 15:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: http://pastebin.com/0zdJWQP0 | 15:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the one sys that had neutron working first | 15:46 |
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| mrproper | Is it possible for something like Neutron to speak OSPF to advertise its internal routes? | 15:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | on the second system, i didnt edit metadata ini since the official docs didnt say anything about it... something i need to get to the bottom of | 15:46 |
| mrproper | It doesn't seem like it. | 15:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: the underlying "goo" that neutron controls can | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | and there are such things as virtual routers you can install per tenant | 15:47 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: so first make sure your region is correct. Big R region, big o One, RegionOne. Verify against keystone endpoint-list. | 15:47 |
| mrproper | Am I able to create an instance in OpenStack and have it boot using PXE or no? | 15:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i believe there is a way to pxe boot | 15:47 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am indeed intending on setting up some CSR1000V. | 15:47 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | mrproper: There are plugins instead of openvswitch to tie into cisco, things like Ryu, of all these things I know nothing about, but they exist. | 15:48 |
| mrproper | CaptainTacoSauce | 15:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: ohhhhh yeaaaah... R vs r, wtf. | 15:48 |
| mrproper | CaptainTacoSauce: OpenvSwitch is able to run OSPF or other protocols. | 15:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: my ultimate goal is to get neutron talking to brocade vdx switches with vxlan/vtep | 15:49 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: http://kimizhang.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/create-pxe-boot-image-for-openstack/ | 15:49 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Oh that sounds interesting. | 15:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, going to be a fun ride | 15:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | nice to see we're all going through the same effort | 15:50 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Someone in the #cisco channel setup vxlan using ddwrt | 15:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ha, nice. nerds! | 15:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: did you just restart the metadata agent or other stuff after fixing that R? | 15:51 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | just metadata agent I believe | 15:52 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | but often I get frustrated and reboot the entire stack :D | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok... testing again | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | man if that was it i'm going to injure myself :P | 15:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and the documentation | 15:52 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | that part of my problem, and explains the error: Unable to find service or endpoint. Which was so left field. | 15:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wound up banging on it for most of my friday evening | 15:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | changed a bunch of other stuff | 15:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like port 35357 to 5000 somewhere in there, based on other people's issues | 15:53 |
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| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: eventually I'll talk you into patching docs :) | 15:53 |
| mrproper | bbl | 15:53 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | does she just have a trigger for every time someone says documentation, or every time Sam-I-Am speaks? :D | 15:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ha | 15:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: sure! | 15:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at this point editing the metadata config is just... missing | 15:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | and the default directives use RegionOne while everything else is regionOne | 15:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: you should check for boogs against neutron/metadata | 15:56 |
| mattymo | boogs? | 15:56 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | in the documentation? I probably should, my intention was to go full speed ahead and build a totally working stack before coming back around | 15:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: well, for this... i think its the default directive in metadata_agent.ini | 15:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | the bug against docs is just not configuring metadata | 15:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | mattymo: yeah, boogs | 15:58 |
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| rpatel | Could someone tell me how to activate libvirt.xml.template in Folsom? | 15:58 |
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| sgran | I assume the end goal is actually something else | 15:59 |
| sgran | what is it you're trying to do? | 15:59 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: So... fixed yet? | 15:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yeah, it did. at least i have a key in authorized_keys on the vm | 16:00 |
| rpatel | Sgran was that fior me? | 16:00 |
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| jfarschman | CaptainTacoSauce: Where did you go to school. That name seems very familiar. | 16:00 |
| sgran | rpatel: yes | 16:00 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: sweet | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: thanks for pointing that one out... it sure was a simple fix! | 16:00 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | jfarschman: St Louis area... | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | and.. obscure | 16:00 |
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| rpatel | I am trying to add a default configuration line to each of my instances | 16:00 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Sure. Happy to repay the favor. :D | 16:01 |
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| jfarschman | Okay… My best friend in HS wrote a store with CaptainTacoSauce as the hero. | 16:01 |
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| sgran | rpatel: as in, you're trying to change the libvirt xml ? | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: do you find that adding a floating ip to a running instance doesnt execute until you reboot the instance? | 16:01 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | jfarschman: A story? As did I... | 16:01 |
| rpatel | For example | 16:01 |
| rpatel | <graphics autoport="yes" keymap="en-us" listen="0.0.0.0" passwd="PASSWORD123" type="vnc"></graphics> | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: i'm sure there will be many of these going back and forth | 16:01 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: No, I can attach and detach live. | 16:01 |
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| rpatel | I want this to be in every VM that I create from now on going forward | 16:01 |
| rpatel | if i could stick that line in the template, boom case closed. | 16:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: hmm, mine says it attaches, but i cant ping it | 16:01 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Is ping allowed in your security group? | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | once i restart the instance its fine | 16:02 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | hmm, neat :D | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | or not :) | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | time to prepare the head-banging portion of my desk... | 16:02 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | alright let me double check I'm not full of it | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see the ip show up in the qrouter netns on the net node | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but i can't ping it from that namespace either | 16:04 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | aaaand now floating IPs don't work at all, hmm, I'll get back to you :P | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lol | 16:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in the meantime, i'll reboot my instance to make the floatingip work... and then test ssh via key | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i suspect there's an iptables problem that i'll need to dig into | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | both of my openstack instances do this. i wonder if devstack does too... will need to check. | 16:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: sheeeeeit, mine are broke now too :/ | 16:12 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I wouldn't think the changes we made for metadata to work would've broken floating IPs... | 16:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok, mine works now. had to stop and start the instance, not reboot. | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and keys work | 16:15 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | oh weird okay, it works, but only on my admin tenant | 16:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh... where did you create these networks? | 16:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and did you fall into the weird trap about names vs. ids | 16:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think sheldonh got into that | 16:21 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | hmm not sure about all that, I probably just have my virtual router messed up | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you switch the magic switch to 'more magic' ? | 16:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: do you want me to file the bugs regarding metadata? | 16:27 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | sure! | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok. can you post your metadata_agent.ini ? just want to make sure the rest of the stuff looks ok. i'm going to test the fix on both of my systems before working up a report. | 16:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | takes a while to make sure i'm not insane :/ | 16:28 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | sure | 16:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and... wow too much coffee | 16:29 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | http://pastebin.com/P211amis | 16:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thx | 16:32 |
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| decede | sgran: Any news on alioth? | 16:46 |
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| sgran | we're recovering the database now. We have a new host to put things on | 16:47 |
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| decede | sgran: cool | 16:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sgran: woohoo | 16:57 |
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| zsr | Is anyone able to help me out with a couple questions? | 17:13 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | zsr: No promises, but sure, go ahead. | 17:13 |
| sgran | ca we have a meta-topic that just says, "ask, don't ask to ask" | 17:13 |
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| zsr | I am trying to figure out (starting to get me a little mad actually!) what the command line equivalent is for setting a VNC password in virt-manager | 17:13 |
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| zsr | in virt-manager i can set a password and hit apply, boom instantly openstack is prompting for a P/W. But If I wanted to automate this, put it into a script, I really cannot figure out a command line equivalent to uit. | 17:14 |
| sgran | zsr: ah, rpatel was just asking about how to do that earlier | 17:14 |
| zsr | either that, or where I would find the libvirt.xml.template file so i can add the directives into the template file | 17:14 |
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| zsr | Yes sorry it's me Rpatel | 17:14 |
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| sgran | I don't think there is a way to do that, particularly | 17:15 |
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| zsr | Really. | 17:15 |
| sgran | well, not different per instance | 17:15 |
| zsr | Hmm. So both of my options are out the window? I feel like thats a little strange considering this is linux | 17:15 |
| sgran | you can set a vnc password that will be used for all instances, I think | 17:15 |
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| zsr | Sure I am down for that | 17:15 |
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| sgran | vnc_password in nova.conf | 17:16 |
| zsr | I could do that with the libvirt.xml.template, but the file doesn't exist anywhere. I can't even figure out where the instance-00000xx.xml files are being genrated! | 17:16 |
| zsr | Yeah sorry I forgot to say I am on devstack | 17:16 |
| zsr | I really want to avoid restarting stuff that was the issue | 17:16 |
| sgran | oh, sorry - I'm no help with that :) | 17:16 |
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| zsr | In vort-manager I can update the passwords on the fly..i assumed virsh had an equivalent command | 17:16 |
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| sgran | it will do, sure | 17:17 |
| zsr | Alrighty...well, thats unfortunate.. Thanks for the help | 17:17 |
| zsr | what do you nmean? | 17:17 |
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| zsr | It will do? | 17:17 |
| decede | zsr: you might find taht you can do it with virsh or the libvirt api | 17:17 |
| zsr | Been looking like a madman how to do it in virsh | 17:17 |
| zsr | i thought virsh and virt-manager were from the same package? | 17:18 |
| sgran | they are | 17:18 |
| decede | virt-manager and virsh are just an interface to libvirts api | 17:18 |
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| decede | i think | 17:18 |
| zsr | Ah ok ok | 17:18 |
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| zsr | So they are just tools to speak to libvirt api | 17:18 |
| zsr | Any idea what I would do to set a vnc password via libvirt api? | 17:18 |
| decede | lol | 17:18 |
| decede | I would have said if I knew | 17:19 |
| zsr | or thru command line? Or am i wrong ? I don't know much about it | 17:19 |
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| zsr | Ok gotcha | 17:19 |
| decede | try the libvirt channel | 17:19 |
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| sinh | hi folks. . so i'm in need of some help with getting a multi-node setup. so i have a controller, network, and a compute node. . for some reason. . the compute node cannot launch any guests because it's getting an "authorization failed" | 17:19 |
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| sinh | however the controller also has a compute instance running and it is able to launch just fine | 17:19 |
| sinh | the same nova.conf file is on both the compute and controller node | 17:19 |
| sgran | zsr: I suspect virt-manager writes a chunk of xml and then passes that to libvirt to redefine the running instance | 17:20 |
| sinh | the same goes for the neutron openvswitch plugin | 17:20 |
| sinh | is there some setting i'm missing? | 17:20 |
| sgran | I don't think there is an API to do it | 17:20 |
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| zsr | sgran: I thought the same, but part of redefining the instance thru command line is to destroy and then redefine and then re-start it. virt-manager can pull it off without restarting | 17:20 |
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| sgran | are you sure that's true? | 17:21 |
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| zsr | I am pretty much 9999% true. I must: virsh destroy instance - virsh undefine instance - edit xml file - virsh define libvirt.xml - virsh start instance | 17:22 |
| zsr | skipping the destroy doesn't pick up the changes | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: using neutron? | 17:23 |
| zsr | Destroying also shuts it down | 17:23 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Okay, weird. I blew away my old test tenant. Made a new one from scratch. Now I can attach / detach floating IPs live on the fly again. | 17:23 |
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| sinh | yeah | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: tenant or instance? | 17:23 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Tenant, therefore both. | 17:23 |
| sinh | sam-i-am: i'm starting up like a 50 node openstack cluster | 17:23 |
| decede | zsr: can you not just virsh edit? | 17:23 |
| sinh | 2 controller, 2 neutron, and pretty much all 46 compute nodes | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: does nova on the compute node know about neutron? if you followed the docs, it doesn't | 17:24 |
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| sinh | sam-i-am: i changed things around to match a neutron config | 17:24 |
| zsr | virsh edit works. But changes do not take effect until I destroy the instance, undefine it, redefine it and restart it | 17:24 |
| sinh | i was able to get it working on the 2 compute nodes | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: huh, interesting. guess i need to try that, although i can't figure out why that would happen | 17:24 |
| sinh | and they create guests and stuff just fine | 17:24 |
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| sinh | right now i'm gonna compare confs just to make sure | 17:24 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Yeah if this was production, that wouldn't be a good fix. :D | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: did you recreate the networks too? | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i created some of the network as the admin user, and some as the tenant | 17:25 |
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| zsr | I guess I will figure this out. Thanks guys I appreciate trying to help | 17:25 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Yeah, my new tenant had no network configured at all so I created a new network / subnet / router and configured the router to have ext-net as the gateway and my new tenant network as a port. | 17:25 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I created them all in horzion as the tenant. | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, thats interesting | 17:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | always something new here | 17:26 |
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| sinh | hrm | 17:27 |
| sinh | so it is a config problem | 17:27 |
| sinh | so odd | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | wouldnt be the first one, wont be the last one | 17:28 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | sinh: I was just reading your posts. I was wondering if your nova-compute has its' keystone config as 'localhost'? | 17:28 |
| sinh | heh | 17:28 |
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| sinh | CaptainTacoSauce: i thought that | 17:28 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | sounds like you already figured it out | 17:28 |
| sinh | but all my configs are pre-generated | 17:28 |
| sinh | yeah i did | 17:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: then there's the question of what to put in nova.conf vs nova-compute.conf | 17:28 |
| sinh | but i'm curious where the difference is | 17:28 |
| sinh | the neutron one was easy | 17:28 |
| sinh | i forgot to replace the user/pass var | 17:29 |
| sinh | neutron_admin_username=NEUTRON-ADMIN-USER | 17:29 |
| sinh | neutron_admin_password=NEUTRON-ADMIN-PASS | 17:29 |
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| sinh | forgot that i updated my script and forgot to re-ran it against this node | 17:29 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | is this chef we're talking about? | 17:30 |
| sinh | no | 17:30 |
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| sinh | we have an inhouse CM-type that we built | 17:30 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | ah okay | 17:30 |
| sinh | eventually we're gonna migrate to salt | 17:30 |
| sinh | or at least hoping to | 17:30 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | so the authorization error wasn't keystone? it was neutron? | 17:31 |
| sinh | yeah | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | dammit, humidifer in the server room died | 17:32 |
| sinh | that's what it's looking like | 17:32 |
| sinh | oh that sucks | 17:32 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | wow I woulda lost that bet | 17:32 |
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| sinh | CaptainTacoSauce - haha | 17:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 17:32 |
| sinh | it's quite odd | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is sneaky | 17:32 |
| sinh | yeah | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | its like fantasy football | 17:32 |
| sinh | haha | 17:32 |
| sinh | well it sucked when i sent like 30 compute nodes up | 17:32 |
| sinh | and none of them could create a guest | 17:32 |
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| sinh | btw. . in horizon. . i have a bunch of failed instances that won't disappear from the dashboard | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | are they in 'nova list' too? | 17:33 |
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| sinh | yeah | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | if neutron was broken, they sort of stick there | 17:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in error state? | 17:33 |
| sinh | yeah | 17:33 |
| sinh | any way to purge them? | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | once you fix the neutron problem 'nova delete <id>' should work | 17:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least thats what i found out | 17:34 |
| sinh | ah | 17:34 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah, I've been there too, you can modify the database and then run db sync but it's much cleaner to get all the pieces communicating and then just nova delete | 17:35 |
| sinh | got it | 17:35 |
| sinh | yeah i don't want to pollute my db by my stupidness | 17:36 |
| sinh | here's another odd problem | 17:36 |
| sinh | cinder-volume seems to be flapping on a bunch of my nodes | 17:36 |
| sinh | when you do a cinder-manage service list | 17:36 |
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| sinh | set it to watch every second | 17:36 |
| sinh | you'll see the node go up and down | 17:36 |
| sinh | i don't have debug set on the cinder logs but any where i can try looking at? | 17:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything in the regular cinder logs? | 17:37 |
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| sinh | nothing out of the norm | 17:39 |
| sinh | no errors | 17:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats fascinatingly frustrating | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | could be interaction with another daemon? | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you set verbose=true in the cinder config files? | 17:40 |
| sinh | yeah | 17:40 |
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| sinh | and yes it is frustrating | 17:40 |
| sinh | not so much fascinating at this point | 17:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've sorta gotten used to that... | 17:40 |
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| sinh | hehe | 17:43 |
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| sinh | well i'm really stoked we got the multi-node setup to finally work | 17:43 |
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| sinh | it took me and my architect like 2 weeks to try to figure out what was wrong | 17:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've spent many moons trying to get stuff working | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron was the big one, and it still isnt 100% | 17:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kinda got involved with trying to fix the install docs | 17:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'll need a full working install that looks pretty for my proof of concept, labs, and training... but haven't moved past neutron yet | 17:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | need to configure horizon for the pretty aspect | 17:46 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am: horizon seems like the simple part to configure | 17:48 |
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| decede | at least on debian | 17:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i sure hope so! i need an easy one. | 17:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | meh, i need a job that does not involve sales/marketing critters | 17:51 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | you don't have horizon yet Sam? | 18:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not yet... been all cli so far | 18:03 |
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| sinh | sam-i-am - if you need any help with the doc let me know | 18:06 |
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| sinh | i've gotten mine scripted to where i don't have to do much of anything except reboot and it auto-provisions a new compute/network/controller | 18:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sinh: sure, thx... thats pretty cool. | 18:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kind of like rdo in a way | 18:07 |
| sinh | rdo? | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | redhat's rapid deployment package | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | uses packstack | 18:07 |
| sinh | oh | 18:07 |
| sinh | yeah | 18:07 |
| sinh | we started using devstack | 18:07 |
| sinh | but i was against it | 18:07 |
| sinh | cause i refuse to believe that we can't deploy our own and have to use something like devstack | 18:07 |
| sinh | it was good to get a POC going | 18:07 |
| sinh | but not good to use when we are going to send it to production | 18:08 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Totally agree sinh. I must do it myself and see how it fails and how to troubleshoot and how to fix all the various problems. | 18:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i used devstack first and still keep an instance running because i can reference their config files... for example, cinder, horizon, etc all work with it | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | but for a Real Install, it doesn't work | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | and is a pain to debug | 18:09 |
| sinh | yeah | 18:09 |
| sinh | we used devstack's configs as a point of reference when writing our deploy scripts | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have a production environment to worry about | 18:09 |
| sinh | well my other guys did | 18:09 |
| sinh | the biggest issue we had was the DOC and the lack of information for getting a multi-node setup going | 18:10 |
| sinh | that grizzly doc you sent me the other time was a major help | 18:10 |
| sinh | so i thank you for that | 18:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | my job involves training, demos, pre- and post-sales install/configuration services | 18:10 |
| sinh | nice | 18:10 |
| sinh | what company do you work for if you don't mind me asking | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | arrow electronics | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | we're a distributor/integrator | 18:10 |
| sinh | in tx? | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | denver | 18:10 |
| sinh | even better | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | eventually i need to provide working reference architectures and solutions for my customers | 18:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like... X storage + Y network + Z hypervisor works with openstack | 18:11 |
| sinh | oh nice | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | and write all of the docs to go around that | 18:11 |
| sinh | please just don't be like the three companies that were at cloudstack | 18:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | who were those? | 18:12 |
| sinh | hrm let me find out | 18:12 |
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| sinh | one was an ex TM exec for their cloud environment | 18:12 |
| sinh | metacloud or something | 18:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | what went wrong? | 18:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at this rate maybe i should just find myself a real openstack job lol... not sure my blood pressure can handle it :) | 18:14 |
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| sinh | hehe | 18:15 |
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| sinh | sam-i-am - they were suppose to talk about openstack and the apis and what not but they ended up bashing each other | 18:15 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | man, try come working on AppLogic | 18:15 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | you'll be begging for openstack | 18:15 |
| sinh | me and my coworker ended up leaving like after 20 minutes | 18:15 |
| sinh | haha | 18:15 |
| sinh | where's applogic located? | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: ugh, nasty | 18:16 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | well AppLogic is a product by CA, our current cloud platform, but we're just a customer of theirs | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: is applogic your usual job? | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh nooooo CA | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | make it stopppp | 18:16 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | hahaha exactly | 18:16 |
| sinh | haha | 18:16 |
| sinh | don't hate | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | my company uses them for a lot of stuff and its all horrifyingly bad | 18:16 |
| sinh | i live in CA | 18:16 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | they bought the software (like they do) from the developers | 18:16 |
| sinh | wait ca = canada | 18:16 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | CA = Computer Associates | 18:17 |
| sinh | or ca = california | 18:17 |
| sinh | oh | 18:17 |
| sinh | derp | 18:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | lulz | 18:17 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | so like I said, begging for openstack | 18:17 |
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| sinh | heh | 18:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i can see why now... | 18:19 |
| sinh | over all i like openstack. . it's got a decent api, and gui | 18:19 |
| sinh | support seems to be growing | 18:19 |
| sinh | and once you get the hang of the configs | 18:19 |
| sinh | it's not that difficult | 18:19 |
| sinh | they should really really focus alot on making the DOCs better | 18:19 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | heheheh, that's Sam's new job I think | 18:19 |
| sinh | hehe | 18:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, pretty much | 18:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | up to 30 or so bugs submitted now | 18:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably half of those fixed | 18:20 |
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| rmk | sinh: It's unfortunate you were unable to follow the merit of the debate. | 18:21 |
| sinh | merit? | 18:21 |
| sinh | i don't mind debates. . but i was there to hear talks about the tech, api, and openstack | 18:22 |
| rmk | What exactly were you expecting? | 18:22 |
| sinh | not about 3 companies going on about who is better | 18:22 |
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| sinh | over all i got a lot out of cloudconnect | 18:23 |
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| sinh | especially the second half of the openstack bootcamp | 18:23 |
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| notmyname | kevinc: all replicas of the container db are gone? | 18:54 |
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| notmyname | kevinc: or the container db exists but doesn't have the complete listing? | 18:54 |
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| annegentle | hesco: writing man pages would be great, I think keystone has some already in https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/master/doc/source/man so I'm not sure why those are stubs? | 19:05 |
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| morganfainberg | annegentle, hesco, it might be they haven't been added to the packaging itself. likely hold over from previous packaging? (though i can't speak to what enovance is doing, but that is just my guess) | 19:06 |
| hesco | Hey Anne. Thanks for your contributions. The enhancement I had in mind was simply to research the question posed above and to plug a openstack-docs howto into the stub | 19:06 |
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| annegentle | hesco: sure, though I don't know all the details of how a man page gets to packagers? | 19:09 |
| annegentle | hesco: generally speaking, the pattern is <project>/doc/source/man | 19:09 |
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| hesco | will take a look | 19:10 |
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| KaZeR | wtf : http://bpaste.net/show/vu4QKuM7E6KVUoj4dOir/ still no index on keystone.token ? really? :( | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | KaZeR, what field would you want indexed? we have 'id' 'valid' and 'expires' indexed | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | (lines 20, 21, 22) | 19:14 |
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| KaZeR | morganfainberg: don't we need also an index on id ? | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | KaZeR, iirc Primary Key implied indexed | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | implies* | 19:15 |
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| KaZeR | ah ok thanks. | 19:15 |
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| morganfainberg | KaZeR, PK implies unique contraint as well. (at least under mysql) | 19:16 |
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| sinh | has anyone ever ran into a case where you lose an entire compute/controller node but the cinder volume data is still present on the system | 19:16 |
| sinh | how would you migrate that data out? | 19:16 |
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| ppradhan | hi, the vnc console in dashboard not workiong for me. where do I see the logs? | 19:19 |
| ppradhan | this is havana, never had this issue with grizzly | 19:19 |
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| bknudson | Does anybody here run their OpenStack cloud in a FIPS 140-2 or NIST SP 800-131 mode? | 19:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ppradhan: whats happening? | 19:43 |
| ppradhan | Sam-I-Am: from dashboard I am getting Failed to connect to server. | 19:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | on the controller, can you run 'nova get-vnc-console <instance id> novnc ? | 19:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | and is that url valid | 19:47 |
| ppradhan | Sam-I-Am: is there any cache or something. in the beginning I put the wrong IP and not sure if it has been flushed or something | 19:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | wrong ip of what? | 19:47 |
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| ppradhan | Sam-I-Am: there was a worng ip in nova.conf. nova get-vnc-conesle is useful. Thanks ! | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah it is | 19:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | the command line stuff is helpful | 19:52 |
| ppradhan | yeah. true :) | 19:52 |
| gnomish | Is there a "preferred" linux distro for OpenStack? | 19:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | gnomish: ubuntu 12.04 appears to give the least problems | 19:53 |
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| sgran | ubuntu 12.04 is pretty much the reference implementation at the moment | 19:53 |
| gnomish | Thanks. I'm a debian user, personally. However, I have an interview with Seagate soon. I just want to make sure that I don't need to brush up on RedHat/CentOS specifics | 19:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ubuntu is way more like debian than rh heh | 19:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont know what seagate does | 19:55 |
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| Trondh | Hi everyone, I have some questions regarding Neutron with GRE - I'm trying to understand how to piece it together. Does anyone have time to answer a few questions? | 20:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure... | 20:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | Trondh: this might help | 20:14 |
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| sinh | sam-i-am - have you ever have to tried to move cinder volumes off a compute node where the DB and it's metadata got blown away? | 20:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope. havent gotten into cinder yet | 20:31 |
| sinh | bummer | 20:31 |
| sinh | cause i wiped out an entire openstack cluster except for the volumes | 20:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, besides basic config on one node | 20:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | wouldnt the db be on your controller node? | 20:32 |
| sinh | yeah this particular cluster was a all in one | 20:32 |
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| sinh | so compute, controller and network was all in one single server | 20:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the vgs use a uuid... jusy need to figure out what those were | 20:33 |
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| sinh | yeah | 20:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | without a db... ummm :/ | 20:34 |
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| sinh | that's what i thought. . build a guest, muck with the data a little to tie it to one of the existing UUID lvm volumes | 20:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could do that | 20:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but i dont know what all needs to be touched | 20:35 |
| sinh | i know | 20:35 |
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| hesco | working my way through the Deploying OpenStack (2d Edition) book, adapting as I go for a debian installation. what package provides openstack-config and openstack-db? | 20:40 |
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| sinh | here's a strange problem. . have you ever seen the endpoint's reset itself? | 20:41 |
| jfarschman | hesco: I don't think those are debian packages | 20:41 |
| sinh | i've changed the endpoint for the glance service earlier today | 20:41 |
| sinh | and now it's back to what it was | 20:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | huh... | 20:41 |
| sinh | no wait nevermind | 20:41 |
| hesco | jfarschman: what would be the debian equivalent then? how is it I configure keystone? | 20:41 |
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| jfarschman | hesco: I'm building a new compute node this afternoon. Let me check my notes. I'm working in Ubuntu 12.04 | 20:42 |
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| hesco | thanks, that is appreciated. | 20:42 |
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| jblack | is nova easy to scale after the fact? | 20:44 |
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| jblack | Let me rephrase that. Is openstack as a whole easy to scale after the fact, without interrupting production? | 20:44 |
| jfarschman | hesco: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide | 20:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: grrr @ metadata | 20:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jfarschman: yes, mostly | 20:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just get it set up right the first time to scale | 20:45 |
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| jblack | Sam-I-Am: Were you answering me? | 20:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | errr yeah | 20:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | stupid auto complete | 20:46 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | whatwhatwhat, did you break it again? | 20:46 |
| jfarschman | those are the instructions that I have found very, useful. I have made my own different choices and we can chat about those as needed. But keystone is just apt-get install keystone then configure the keystone.conf and configure the endpoints | 20:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: trying to get metadata working from scratch on my second install. what all did you config on your controller nova.conf or other files? | 20:47 |
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| hesco | Thanks jfarschman, will take a look at that. | 20:47 |
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| jfarschman | hesco: feel free to ask me direst questions. I'll be working on this node for a few minutes. | 20:48 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Okay so on your nova-api server... nova.conf needs... service_neutron_metadata_proxy, neutron_metadata_proxy_shared_secret, metadata_host = nova_api IP address, metadata_listen, and metadata_listen_port | 20:48 |
| hesco | thanks, will do jfarschman | 20:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | hesco: quantum has changed to neutron | 20:48 |
| hesco | thanks Sam-I-Am | 20:49 |
| hesco | noted | 20:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | but other than that the unofficial grizzly guide works with havana | 20:49 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | and then on neutron, neutron.conf needs ... nova_metadata_ip = nova-api IP address, nova_metadata_port = to what nova.conf says, metadata_proxy_shared_secret and of course the keystone stuff | 20:49 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | the keystone stuff with the correct region specified :D | 20:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 20:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm some of that is different than my working install :/ | 20:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: so those files are on your controller? | 20:52 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | just nova.conf | 20:52 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | my "nova controller" server ... where nova-api klives | 20:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you mentioned neutron... | 20:54 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | neutron.conf on neutron | 20:54 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I have a dedicated network node | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | on the controller or network node? | 20:55 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | neutron.conf only on neutron/network node | 20:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah ok | 20:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i have a controller, network, and compute node | 20:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | parts of neutron runs on the controller | 20:55 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | mmkay, yeah my infrastrucutre is fairly unique | 20:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | doh | 20:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | trying to multitask this with a phone glued to my head for $boringmeeting lol | 21:02 |
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| jfarschman | jblack: did anyone answer your question? I can discuss it if you want | 21:02 |
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| hesco | my intended infrastructure includes a controller node (which I imagined would host the database, rabbitmq and neutron as well), a file storage node (thinking about ceph) and the compute nodes. | 21:03 |
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| jfarschman | hesco: that should work. and Glance will be there along with keystone? | 21:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | hesco: i'd be interested to see how well neutron and your controller node work on the same box | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wound up making a separate network node | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yay, got it. i was trying to figure out the minimum directives required to make it work for the bug report | 21:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: what i dont understand is why my other install works without some of those directives. only thing i changed there this morning was R->r | 21:05 |
| hesco | I understand that ceph will support object storage as well. Should I run the glance server on the controller using ceph in the background to serve its requests? | 21:06 |
| jfarschman | hesco: and I'm using nova-network, with each compute node also a network node | 21:06 |
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| jfarschman | hesco: I cannot advice about that. | 21:07 |
| hesco | ok, thanks | 21:07 |
| jblack | jfarschman: They did, but I'm still intersted. I'm still laying down landmarks for a project about 3 months from now | 21:07 |
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| dtx00ff_ | hesco: not sure on what scale are you going to deploy this, but having a dedicated box for your MQs is pretty reasonable. | 21:07 |
| dtx00ff_ | and neutron-server should be fine with the controller node | 21:08 |
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| jfarschman | jblack: how much scaling are we talking about? and what equipment do you get to play with? I suppose that's the place to start | 21:08 |
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| hesco | initially, I'm doing this in 4u, with only two compute nodes and 64gb ram | 21:08 |
| dtx00ff | neutron dhcp needs its own machines with all those lease renewals coming in | 21:08 |
| hesco | seems like moving the queue to its own node can wait for a bit. | 21:08 |
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| dtx00ff | hmm | 21:09 |
| dtx00ff | then you should be fine if this is just a POC scale or a bit more. | 21:09 |
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| hesco | POC ??? | 21:10 |
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| hesco | right | 21:10 |
| hesco | prrof of concept I guiess | 21:10 |
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| dtx00ff | yes | 21:10 |
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| hesco | If I can prove the copncept, I immediately want to migrate my existing services onto this cloud | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | hesco: it'll probably take you a bit to go from poc to prod | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is waaaaaayy complex | 21:11 |
| dtx00ff | ceph support almost everything that a cloud storage requires. But its power comes from having a distributed back end storage with multiple copies to provide redundancy. If u are just going to have one controller and a couple of HVs just glance should be good. | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: i'm interested how multiple controllers/network nodes work | 21:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: of course, floating ips somehow broke on my second install :/ | 21:12 |
| hesco | dtx00ff: but I will also need block storage as well and want to plan for growth | 21:12 |
| dtx00ff | ahh | 21:12 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Okay, you're only allowed to have one environment from now on. | 21:12 |
| dtx00ff | then yes | 21:12 |
| dtx00ff | Ceph would be a good idea | 21:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: but meta works! | 21:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: the first one was my munge of the install guides. the second one is using only the official install guide and submitting bugs | 21:13 |
| dtx00ff | @Sam-I-Am multiple network nodes work well in active passive. | 21:13 |
| hesco | I hope it is not so complex that I run out of money before I sort this out. | 21:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | doesnt money grow on trees in the cloud? | 21:14 |
| dtx00ff | no trees in the cloud bro | 21:14 |
| dtx00ff | lol | 21:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, right... there's clouds above the trees | 21:15 |
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| dtx00ff | anyways, hesco: you should be fine, just take it slow, and record the configurations as you go | 21:15 |
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| dtx00ff | move them to a config mgmt as you go. take puppet/salt/chef for example. that's usually how its done. | 21:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: do you compute nodes have anything about metadata in nova.conf? | 21:16 |
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| dtx00ff | yes, the IP behind 169.254.169.254 | 21:16 |
| dtx00ff | @sam-i-am ^ | 21:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah | 21:16 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Yes. But it might not be needed. I keep both nova.confs almost identical. | 21:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | so metadata_host and/or metadata_port ? | 21:17 |
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| hesco | I'm building puppet manifests as I work. Took a look at the stock openstack module on puppet forge, but felt I needed to take this one step at a time and develop some appreciation for what is happening under the hood. | 21:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | shared secret, host, listen, listen port | 21:17 |
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| hesco | dtx00ff: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 21:17 |
| dtx00ff | @CaptainTacoSauce what scenarios is it not needed on? | 21:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I'm just saying I have no idea. It's possible I threw them in there and they don't do anything. | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have any of those directives in nova.conf on my compute nodes | 21:18 |
| dtx00ff | @hesco: that's the way to go, do a manual installation first and see what plugs in where. | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | just controller and network node | 21:18 |
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| hesco | thanks, will do | 21:19 |
| dtx00ff | sure | 21:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | hesco: one idea for your initial 'toy' install is trying devstack out | 21:19 |
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| dtx00ff | ^ | 21:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | hesco: or, for the more official install, use VMs and take snapshots after every component installation | 21:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you can roll back if it breaks | 21:19 |
| dtx00ff | @Sam-I-Am: are you sure your VMs get the routes and keypairs without metadata info in the conf file? | 21:20 |
| dtx00ff | which might be possible, i have just never tried to install w/o metadata, so this is for my knowledge | 21:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, they're getting the keypairs now | 21:20 |
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| dtx00ff | hmm | 21:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | routes... thought those came from dhcp | 21:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i can wget 169.254.169.254 from within my vm | 21:23 |
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| dtx00ff | yes | 21:25 |
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| dtx00ff | my bad, compute nodes dont need metadata address unless you are using config_drives | 21:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 21:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | i do see this in nova-compute.log when i launch an instance | 21:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://pastebin.com/VDU8kKC3 | 21:26 |
| dtx00ff | that's what I understand from looking at the code quickly, but I would make sure. I dont trust me. | 21:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | however, the keypair installs fine | 21:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: do you see this ^^ | 21:27 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | oh weird yeah I never saw that one | 21:28 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | anything in the console logs of the VM as it boots? | 21:28 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | cirros is helpful because you can actually log into the VM and it dumps the error messages directly into authorized_keys | 21:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nothing interesting in the console log as it boots | 21:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | and yeah... authorized_keys used to be full of many strange things | 21:29 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Odd. Also that error. No matching node?? It can't find the compute node its booting off of? I have no idea how to interpret that one. | 21:29 |
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| dachary | Hi, how can I remove a compute node that has been decomissioned ? I want it gone from nova-manage service list ;) | 21:31 |
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| dtx00ff | nova-manage service xxx disable xxx | 21:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtx00ff: doesnt it age when the controller stops seeing check-ins via MQ? | 21:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i was under the impression that compute nodes used some form of keepalives | 21:32 |
| dtx00ff | they do | 21:33 |
| dtx00ff | but then they get a :-( face i think | 21:33 |
| dtx00ff | they are still enabled | 21:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh | 21:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | always learning something new... | 21:34 |
| jfarschman | nova-manage service xxx disable xxx --- that does a disable, but you will need to remove it from the database if you want it gone. | 21:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | i only have one compute node in the meantime | 21:34 |
| jfarschman | I will also point out that there is a history associated with this compute node. Every instance ever spun up on it will be in the DB. | 21:34 |
| dachary | jfarschman: thanks :-) | 21:34 |
| dtx00ff | as @jfarschman said, but i prefer not touching the DB. use the all power APIs! | 21:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: not finding a lot of googly help with that message either | 21:35 |
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| jfarschman | I'm with dtx00ff on this. Just rebuild the node with the same name | 21:35 |
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| dtx00ff | hey Sam-I-Am i would have looked deeper into it man, but I gotta run and meet some deadlines, the bane of my existence. | 21:36 |
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| dtx00ff | take care, best of luck. | 21:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haha | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtx00ff: aight, thanks for the help. have fun :) | 21:37 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | so is this your devstack thing that doesn't work? | 21:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: no, its both regular installs | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | the vms seem to work fine, and its just a warning message | 21:38 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | so is there something that doesn't work? the key injection? | 21:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | key injection works... i can log in using public keys. | 21:38 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | so its benign? | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if this error has something to do with the vm not having a real disk or something | 21:39 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | a real disk? my VMs boot straight from the glance image | 21:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah mine too | 21:39 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | so that shouldn't be it :D | 21:39 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I guess we can always look for the error in the source. | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, it seems benign, but last time i thought i had a benign error... | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | and i thought you might be seeing it to. this is with cirros. | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | it appears on the compute node's nova logs | 21:40 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | nova-compute.log? | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | the source code is here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/disk/api.py | 21:41 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | not seeing it, just audit stuff for the most part | 21:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i only see it when i launch a new vm | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | about the time it does key injection | 21:41 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah its not in there | 21:42 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | not in the log* | 21:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | damn. | 21:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the line before it contains "Injecting key into image" | 21:43 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | meh just scrap it and start over :D | 21:46 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | its too late in the afternoon, I'm done being useful :D | 21:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lol | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, my next trick for the day is trying to figure out why floating ips broke on one of my installs | 21:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | they assign ok, but are not pingable from anywhere | 21:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | sec groups look fine | 21:48 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah Google keeps saying security groups too but whatever my problem was, it wasn't security groups | 21:49 |
| jfarschman | qrouter stuff likely | 21:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i probably b0rked something in the neutron commands for the network stuff | 21:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | although it did work at one point | 21:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... :/ | 21:50 |
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| jfarschman | have you tried turning it off and on again? | 21:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | like i said earlier this morning... i need to keep gremlinsd from restarting | 21:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haha | 21:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | no, let me try that | 21:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | or a format/reinstall | 21:50 |
| Trondh | has anyone found a really good (and precise) guide for installing havana with Neutron GRE? | 21:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | uhh, mostly | 21:52 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Trondh: That's exactly what I have running. The docs aren't perfect but we've gotten there. | 21:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide | 21:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | just s/quantum/neutron/g | 21:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a lot of social documenting going on :) | 21:52 |
| Trondh | cool, i've just been looking for Havana, but I guess the grizzly stuff is the same for networks | 21:53 |
| * Sam-I-Am starts a new buzzword | 21:53 | |
| Trondh | :-) | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah just the name change | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | for whatever reason | 21:53 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I just used the havana guide; http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_keystone.html | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | the official docs are getting there. they pretty much work fine up until you try to launch a VM with neutron | 21:53 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Many of the problems that were missing when I was going through the first time have been fixed, the others you can get answered here. :D | 21:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i submitted a bug which fixes that problem and about to submit another one which fixes another problem | 21:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | even with the grizzly docs there's a metadata directive error | 21:54 |
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| Trondh | thanks guys | 21:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you stick around here we'll at least get you to launching basic VMs that work | 21:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if the docs dont work right | 21:55 |
| Trondh | Im trying to understand how GRE routing works between the compute and neutron nodes | 21:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Trondh: http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | Trondh: when you get your system working, that doc will help you make sense of it | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | and you have real stuff to look at too | 21:56 |
| dtx00ff | lol i like that route. networking in 'too' much detail | 21:56 |
| Trondh | ah, great | 21:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtx00ff: i think thats a great description of it | 21:57 |
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| dtx00ff | that's actually a neat doc, i wish i had found when I was struggling. thanks for the link. | 21:57 |
| Trondh | <Sam-I-Am> this is great stuff, thanks a lot! | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | someone posted it in here for me a few weeks ago | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it never made sense until i got a working system | 21:58 |
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| dtx00ff | story of devops. | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh boy, i've reached the point where my browser tabs are so small i can't even click on them. | 21:58 |
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| larsks | I wrote that doc :). If you spot any problems please let me know. | 21:59 |
| dtx00ff | i should tagline that "it never made sense until i got a working system | 21:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for a week or so now i havent known what they are anymore | 21:59 |
| dtx00ff | @larsks thanks | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just click until i find what i was looking for | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | larsks: yeah thanks a bunch | 21:59 |
| Trondh | for me the problem is either chef-based deployments that don't really teach me anything, or very detailed step-by-step instructions that don't work | 21:59 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | man you were holding out on me, this doc is awesome | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | working system + your doc = lightbulb on (for the most part) | 22:00 |
| Trondh | having a hard time learning how the stuff works | 22:00 |
| Trondh | yup, I hear you. Will be reading that, looks like exactly what I need to get the ball rolling | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: wow, surprised you hadn't seen it yet | 22:00 |
| larsks | Yay! I put that together for myself to try and understand how everything connected (so I would know where to work when things were broked). | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | and they do broked often | 22:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i can usually find the problem, but not necessarily sure how to fix it | 22:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 'neutron broken-crap-fix' doesnt seem to work | 22:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oops... need to hit another meeting | 22:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | back in a bit | 22:05 |
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| jblack | jfarschman: Ok, well, I'm looking to join the ranks of a well established biggish medium sized company. Good revenue, highly stable, etc. | 22:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and apparently they're interested in openstack? | 22:09 |
| dtx00ff | everyone is | 22:09 |
| jblack | They're pulling me in due to my experience with AWS. One of their goals within the next six months is to migrate from a (presumably three tiered) pile of standalones to a private cloud that can be beefed up with the public cloud as necessary | 22:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtx00ff: sure seems that way | 22:10 |
| jfarschman | jblack: sure. Well, its pretty scalable as is. You can take a pile of hardware and add another pile tomorrow without a lot of fuss assuming you get the controller properly setup. | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | will be interesting when neutron integrates with network hardware via vxlan/vtep | 22:10 |
| pdevine | is there an easy way in grizzly to tell if the nova ec2 endpoint api is working? | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the primary objective of my project | 22:11 |
| jblack | Exactly. Openstack seems like exactly the right path. When I go in to talk to them later this week, I'd like to be be better prepared than "There's this openstack thing that read great on google" | 22:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haha | 22:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, after a month or so working on it you'll say the same thing :) | 22:11 |
| sinh | Sam-I-Am: i'm doing active/passive in my multi-node setup | 22:11 |
| dtx00ff | also, my 5 cents, since these are private cloud setup that anyone with experience can do. make sure you think of scale when you do it. a lot of openstack devs/admins dont do this and thus the blame comes down to OS. | 22:11 |
| sinh | i haven't really tried using a active/active mode | 22:11 |
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| sinh | the part i really aren't looking forward to is the mysql clustering | 22:12 |
| pdevine | whenever I connect with boto things just seem to hang | 22:12 |
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| jblack | Ok, so I should expect thrash in deep water for a couple months? | 22:12 |
| jfarschman | jblack: Hmmm…. Okay. One thing I'd recommend is the conference that was a couple of weeks ago. I assume you didn't go, but the videos are out now. | 22:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | between experimentation and production state, i think thats a fair observation | 22:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | especially if you're a one-man show | 22:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | folks who run large deployments like rackspace have tons of people working on it | 22:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | and probably contributing code too | 22:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sinh: i'm curious how integrating with network hardware will help with that | 22:13 |
| jfarschman | jblack: there is a nice talk from PayPal and probably some others as well http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/ | 22:13 |
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| dtx00ff | what did paypal talk about? | 22:14 |
| jblack | No, and I'm a bit behind on my time machine. I'm supposed to come back from the future to help me finish it, but apparently I'm late then too... =) | 22:14 |
| sinh | network hardware? | 22:14 |
| sinh | for the hA? | 22:14 |
| dtx00ff | lol i myself dont know. i am in the team. sigh. | 22:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, pushing out a lot of the gre-ish stuff to hardware | 22:14 |
| jblack | Sorry, I was trying to be funny, but that was kinda flippant. The videos will be a great start. =) | 22:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtx00ff: which team? | 22:15 |
| sinh | oh i'm not using network HA | 22:15 |
| sinh | or a hardware version of it | 22:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh... | 22:15 |
| sinh | yeah i wish i had a HW lb | 22:15 |
| dtx00ff | ebay | 22:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have those | 22:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | and supposedly they'll integrate with openstack | 22:15 |
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| lbalbalba | so little time, so much summit video's too watch | 22:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | so much to do, so little time | 22:15 |
| dtx00ff | i am off | 22:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | lates | 22:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to run too... kind of late for something now | 22:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | but openstack is soooo much more fun than boring meetings | 22:16 |
| jfarschman | jblack: I didn't get to Hong Kong, but I got some nice knowledge from the videos. dtx00ff PayPal talked about KVM and ESXi. I have yet to view it, but I may give it a try here. Need to build some Solaris images | 22:16 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | omfg | 22:16 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | my buddy has 1500 BTC | 22:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | time to retire | 22:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think its just another bubble | 22:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | a bubble worth just shy of $1,000,000 right now. | 22:17 |
| jblack | And what are btc up to these days? Like 32,768 dollors each? | 22:17 |
| jfarschman | jblack: second thing to do is spin up a devstack. | 22:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | godddddd I am so jealous, I have like .003 BTC | 22:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: well, i have 0.0000000 | 22:17 |
| richardboswell | are you guys talking about BitCoin? | 22:17 |
| jfarschman | or is trystack.org still running? | 22:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | its $690 or so | 22:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | richardboswell, yep | 22:17 |
| richardboswell | holy crap, somebody has 1500??? | 22:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah bitcoin | 22:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | one of my good friends has 1500 | 22:18 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | he's been sitting on it for years | 22:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | better become an even better friend | 22:18 |
| richardboswell | wow | 22:18 |
| jblack | I'm lookning at a poweredge sitting across the room, awaiting video cable, 12.04 and some openstack love. | 22:18 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I knowww | 22:18 |
| jblack | 4 dual core processors, 16 gigs of ram. That'll be a sufficient start, right? | 22:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | jblack: sure | 22:18 |
| richardboswell | jblack: yep | 22:18 |
| jblack | Should I xenify it out to make a handful of servers to run openstack on? | 22:18 |
| jfarschman | jblack: Excellent. If you've been following along, there are some nice links I shared above that will get things installed. | 22:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | jblack: i run all my test deployments on VMs | 22:19 |
| jfarschman | or do an all-in-one server | 22:19 |
| jblack | I missed some of what you said, but it's there for met to cach up on | 22:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont care much about performance with them | 22:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | its easier imho | 22:19 |
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| jblack | Right. I'm intrested in fleshing out the feel of the infrastructure at this point, not bogomips or iops | 22:19 |
| jblack | Would you suggest vagrant over xen? | 22:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have controller+network+compute nodes as vms on a box | 22:20 |
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| jblack | will nova be able to virtualize inside of a virtual server? | 22:20 |
| jfarschman | jblack: I'd also do some reading on Cells and Aggregates and Availability zones. These are management tools that if you can talk about then in an interview means you've considered scaling. | 22:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 22:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you have old hardware, you may have to tweak nova.conf | 22:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | most modern stuff supports vm-in-vm | 22:20 |
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| jfarschman | you can run apt-get install -y cpu-checker | 22:21 |
| jfarschman | kvm-ok | 22:21 |
| jblack | It's a poweredge 2950. I'm not sure what the actual cpu is, but it's in the 2ghz range. probably xeon | 22:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i run my vms on esx... mostly just because i have a ton of it | 22:21 |
| richardboswell | jblack: I just posted some blog posts on how to deploy a PoC config for havana...they may help...http://revolutionlabs.net | 22:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | my hardware is from 2007 so it does not support vm-in-vm | 22:21 |
| jblack | mmm, sevearl years old, though | 22:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | but its a quick fix if it doesnt | 22:21 |
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| jblack | So, in the even that the processor is missing the preferred flags, would it be better to just pick up some PoS from the local compuhut ? | 22:22 |
| jblack | in the event | 22:22 |
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| Trondh | richardboswell this is great stuff, Richard | 22:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | just change one line in nova.conf | 22:23 |
| richardboswell | Trondh: tks | 22:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | richardboswell: yeah thx... will be looking over this | 22:23 |
| jfarschman | yea, richardboswell. Very nice | 22:23 |
| * jblack is getting increasingly excited | 22:23 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | if i can ever find the tab it opened in again | 22:23 |
| sinh | trying to get metadata working? | 22:23 |
| sinh | let me know if you get it working too | 22:23 |
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| richardboswell | Sam-I-Am: that's what I was trying to get posted for you last week and never got enough time :( | 22:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: which one of us? | 22:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | richardboswell: ahhh time... that thing. | 22:23 |
| sinh | well you | 22:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sinh: yeah i did, on both my systems | 22:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | are your keys not injecting, and cirros@~.ssh/authorized_keys filling with errors? | 22:24 |
| sinh | hrm | 22:25 |
| sinh | it is getting injected | 22:25 |
| sinh | but during bootup | 22:25 |
| sinh | i get a 404 | 22:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | 404 from what? | 22:25 |
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| sinh | when trying to pull from http://169.254.169.254 | 22:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, it should list a bunch of directories | 22:26 |
| sinh | well now i'm getting a connection timed out | 22:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: you gonna be around for a while? | 22:27 |
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| richardboswell | Sam-I-Am: I can help him if you need to bail | 22:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, i'm like... 30 mins late for something now :/ | 22:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably be back in an hour or so | 22:28 |
| sinh | yeah i i am | 22:28 |
| richardboswell | sinh: do you know how to check the linux namespaces on the metadata server? | 22:28 |
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| sinh | ip netns? | 22:28 |
| richardboswell | sinh: yep | 22:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | what got me and captaintacosauce was that the default directive for region in metadata_agent.ini was 'RegionOne' and not 'regionOne' | 22:29 |
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| sinh | hrm | 22:29 |
| sinh | you have to specify the region one? | 22:29 |
| sinh | er region? | 22:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, it has to match the endpoint | 22:29 |
| richardboswell | yes, you need it for auth to Keystone | 22:29 |
| lifeless | yup, the region it's in | 22:29 |
| richardboswell | and it has to match the endpoint that was added to Keystone | 22:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | and capitalization matters :/ | 22:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | anywho, gotta run... back in an hour or so. | 22:30 |
| richardboswell | yes it does | 22:30 |
| sinh | oh my auth_region is specified | 22:30 |
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| richardboswell | did you already figure out whether the metadata service is running in one of the namespaces? | 22:31 |
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| richardboswell | (or am I rehashing things?) | 22:31 |
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| sinh | richardboswell - how would you check it? | 22:33 |
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| sinh | to see if 169.254.169.254 is bound to the nic? | 22:33 |
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| richardboswell | sinh: yes | 22:33 |
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| richardboswell | do this --> http://www.revolutionlabs.net/2013/09/how-to-determine-specific-dhcp-agent.html | 22:34 |
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| richardboswell | actually nix that | 22:34 |
| richardboswell | how many routers are created? | 22:35 |
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| sinh | no router | 22:35 |
| sinh | i'm not using a router | 22:35 |
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| richardboswell | ohhh ok | 22:35 |
| richardboswell | did you configure the metadata service to work on isolated networks? | 22:36 |
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| sinh | yeah i think so | 22:39 |
| richardboswell | ok | 22:39 |
| sinh | ping 192.16.12.76 | 22:39 |
| sinh | er woops | 22:39 |
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| richardboswell | i'm not sure if you can run metadata without a router...let me look | 22:40 |
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| jfarschman | Argh, just made a mistake in nova-network. Joined a second compute node with the same name and it's pulling the same dnsmasq listener. | 22:51 |
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| jfarschman | Solution to being stupid with two host with the same name. Fix the name and reboot | 22:59 |
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| sinh | richardboswell - you can | 23:04 |
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| philhar | hi. I'm getting and error with my swift install: trying to get final status of PUT timeout and it returns 503 to my client. Is there any further way to diagnose? | 23:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | back! | 23:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sinh: figure it out? | 23:44 |
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| pdevine | this bug is killing me | 23:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | what is? | 23:47 |
| pdevine | I'm having a problem getting the ec2 api to work | 23:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | durrr, thats well over my head :/ | 23:47 |
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| pdevine | in the nova-api log I keep getting this error "BadStatusLine: ''" | 23:48 |
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| pdevine | which is happening when it tries connecting to keystone | 23:48 |
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| pdevine | :q | 23:49 |
| pdevine | err | 23:49 |
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| crhylove | What is the best way to get educated in OS and begin a migration away from a vsphere based system? | 23:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | crhylove: plenty of ways | 23:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | the first is a little reading about what all openstack does | 23:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the next would be running a proof of concept like devstack to see how it all fits together | 23:53 |
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| crhylove | Been reading / watching youtube demos... Thinking about getting my feet wet now. :D | 23:54 |
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| pdevine | comparing openstack and vsphere is somewhat like comparing apples and oranges | 23:54 |
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| sinh | Sam-I-Am - not yet | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, there is that too | 23:56 |
| sinh | i'm trying to modify a existing guest host's metadata | 23:56 |
| sinh | well an easy way | 23:56 |
| crhylove | Wasn't thinking of a comparison as much as a migration. :) | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | devstack is a good way to get your feet wet | 23:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then do an all-in-one or multi-node manual install | 23:56 |
| crhylove | Cool, I'll go give it a ping. | 23:56 |
| crhylove | thnx. | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | and we're also here | 23:57 |
| crhylove | :D | 23:57 |
| pdevine | crhylove: were you going to keep esxi, or switch to a new hypervisor? | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus ask.openstack.org | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | many places... | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: so not just the keypair injection? | 23:57 |
| sinh | yeah | 23:57 |
| sinh | not just keypair injection | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent messed with the underlying metadata stuff | 23:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | just the server part | 23:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if your keypairs are working, then at least the server components are talking | 23:58 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Hey Sam. Thanks for all your help by the way! | 23:58 |
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| sinh | yeah well that's good | 23:58 |
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| sinh | it's still showing up as a 404 | 23:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: no problem. you get stuff working? | 23:58 |
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| crhylove | pdevine: Not married to anything. It would be nice to just migrate our existing VMs at some point though. :) | 23:59 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I've been in meetings all day so I haven't been able to f with it. Starting now. | 23:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: wait... so wget http://169.254.169.254 gives a 404? | 23:59 |
| sinh | Sam-I-Am yeah | 23:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: gotta love those days | 23:59 |
| sinh | but that's a side issue | 23:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should list directories and files | 23:59 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I was preaching to my manager how cool OpenStack is and telling him "I'm going to take this up as something I'm learning" | 23:59 |
| sinh | the main issue is trying to import existing cinder volumes into openstack | 23:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | something like '2009-04-04' | 23:59 |
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