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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: did you also tell him he'll never see you again, and just slip new bags of cheetos under the door? | 00:00 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I do tend to be that way. I get into something and get really reclusive. | 00:00 |
| Trondh | calling it a night here from Zurich guys. Thanks again for all the help and links! | 00:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | Trondh: seeya! | 00:01 |
| Trondh | 4 sure! | 00:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i know the feeling | 00:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | except most of my normal day is interrupted by meetings | 00:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so my real time to nerd out is the evening | 00:01 |
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| mrproper | I'm in the same boat actually | 00:02 |
| mrproper | My goal is to get an instance running | 00:02 |
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| mrproper | For tonight | 00:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | where are you now? | 00:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: why do you think you're seeing a 404? | 00:03 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Same place I was earlier today. I need to figure out how to work with ports and how they tie into things. | 00:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 00:04 |
| mrproper | It's obvious I need to setup remote access into my lab at home. | 00:04 |
| mrproper | I need to segment it off securely | 00:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm a big fan of openvpn | 00:04 |
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| mrproper | That didn't seem too trivial to setup, am I wrong? | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just use the access server and run it as a VM | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | allows two connections for free | 00:05 |
| mrproper | SSL right? | 00:05 |
| mrproper | I thought OpenVPN was free period. | 00:05 |
| sinh | Sam-I-Am - no clue right now | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | or... if your router box does vpn. the ubiquiti edgerouter lite is nice. | 00:05 |
| sinh | sorry. . a little distracted with trying to import these stupid volumes | 00:05 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I run a Cisco router today and when that's not going, pfsense. | 00:06 |
| sinh | trying to avoid having to go db diving to fix this problem | 00:06 |
| mrproper | Wow these Ubiquiti systems look nice. | 00:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the edgerouter lite is cheap and awesome. runs vyatta. | 00:08 |
| mrproper | How does it compare to pfsense? | 00:08 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Wow...$200 for the one with built in PoE ports!? | 00:09 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I need to setup Vyatta. How is it? | 00:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sinh: http://pastebin.com/cHVFH0np | 00:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | sinh: thats what i get from that command in a vm | 00:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: the cli almost feels like junos | 00:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent used pfsense | 00:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can probably do 90% of 'normal stuff' with the web interface | 00:10 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Is it easy to virtualize so I can mess with it? | 00:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | more interesting things like pppoe clients, advanced firewall rules, ipv6, ... cli | 00:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the edgerouter is a hardware box that runs on a non-x86 arch | 00:11 |
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| ekarlso | vyatta | 00:12 |
| ekarlso | what a crappy thing | 00:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, i think you can download vyatta to run as a vm from the vyatta web site | 00:12 |
| ekarlso | I hate them for killing the community edition | 00:12 |
| ekarlso | opensource / community company my damned ass | 00:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | did they kill it entirely? | 00:12 |
| ekarlso | well, 0 commits openly == killed it | 00:12 |
| ekarlso | sure, you can download 6.6 | 00:13 |
| ekarlso | but that's like ooool | 00:13 |
| ekarlso | d | 00:13 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Okay...so lets talk ports. Ports are basically a logical interface which ties into openvswitch? | 00:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder what the ubiquiti folks will do. i suspect they licensed it. | 00:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: pretty much | 00:14 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Okay cool. And you said I have to use the console to create ports in OVS or can I in the UI? | 00:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | when you create an instance it comes up with a port | 00:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | usually the private ip is bound to it | 00:15 |
| mrproper | Really? | 00:16 |
| mrproper | It isn't for me. | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats neutron port-list as the tenant say? | 00:16 |
| mrproper | Is that in networks? | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | command line... | 00:17 |
| mrproper | Oh okay | 00:18 |
| mrproper | Lets figure that out :) | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | let me pop open my neutron'd devstack... i havent used horizon on my main installs yet | 00:18 |
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| mrproper | It's saying console is unavailable in the dashboard | 00:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, this is on your controller node | 00:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | not the vm itself | 00:19 |
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| mrproper | Oh not the Fedora instance. Got it. | 00:22 |
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| sinh | Sam-I-Am - yeah i don't get that output at all | 00:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you using the typical neutron config with dhcp and routers? | 00:25 |
| mrproper | neutron really loves arguments to login | 00:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you using an rc file? | 00:26 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Are you asking me? | 00:27 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Also, I logged into neutron and ran the port-list command. It's telling me only URIs are allowed and not IPs, so I am not connecting to the auth setup. | 00:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 00:28 |
| mrproper | I'm not sure, I don't think so. | 00:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so what system are you running again? | 00:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you install by hand? | 00:28 |
| mrproper | CentOS | 00:28 |
| mrproper | with the PackStack | 00:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahh | 00:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, wonder why their docs didnt mention the rc file | 00:28 |
| mrproper | Unless I missed it, I don't think it did. | 00:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://pastebin.com/BdAWJQuL | 00:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats what you need... just with your info | 00:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then 'source demorc' or whatever you named it | 00:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you can run all of the cli tools as that tenant | 00:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have one rc file for admin, one for the demo tenant | 00:29 |
| mrproper | Oh nice okay | 00:30 |
| mrproper | Are those actual users on your OS where you set them up? | 00:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | no they're the openstack users | 00:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | in fact... | 00:30 |
| mrproper | Actually they do have rc files :) | 00:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can get your web interface to generate those rc files | 00:31 |
| mrproper | They auto-generated them but never really went into the details about it. | 00:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you go to project->tenantname->manage compute->access&security->api access | 00:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can download a premade rc file for that tenant | 00:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that tab also lists your service endpoints should that problem ever arise | 00:33 |
| mrproper | Do you recommend referencing that in .bashrc or do you manually source? | 00:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i manually source. i run as my normal user, then source the rc file of the tenant i want to be | 00:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | which changes quite a bit... | 00:33 |
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| mrproper | Okay I have 5 ports. | 00:35 |
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| chrisd__ | I'm looing for information on adding cinder volumes to my OpenStack setup. I have both HDDs and SSDs, and I want to be able to use both for Cinder, and then specify which one hosts use for data. I'm having trouble finding info on how to add new cinder volumes. The dashboard seems to have info for deploying to a cinder volume, but not for adding new volumes on the host. | 00:35 |
| mrproper | I should redo the floating IP to match my internal setup | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: huh? | 00:37 |
| mrproper | Like...I use 192.168.15.0/24. I should move the public network to that subnet. | 00:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont know your network setup, but on my side, the floating IPs reside on the external network | 00:38 |
| mrproper | That's what I mean. | 00:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | they just take a slice | 00:38 |
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| mrproper | When you say external, do you mean your public IP? | 00:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | i use 172.24.240/24 for outside and overlay 192.168.240/24 on the inside | 00:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah... public meaning... accessible outside of openstack | 00:39 |
| mrproper | Oh okay | 00:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | the private ips obtained by instances are deep inside namespaces | 00:39 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Yeah I am confused about this port thing. I have 5 ports in neutron from the CLI but none are listing when I try to attach. | 00:40 |
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| pdevine | keystone is killing me | 00:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: how many vms do you have? | 00:41 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: http://sharebucketapp.com/WM5NjFiYjc5Njg0ZGFlN | 00:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 00:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: are you the same tenant on the web as you are in the cli? | 00:42 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: It is admin, yes | 00:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whats 'neutron floatingip-list' say? | 00:43 |
| mrproper | It list two IPs, 172.24.4.227 and then port-id | 00:43 |
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| mrproper | But no port-id associated to eihter | 00:44 |
| mrproper | It also has no fixed address assigned | 00:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in port-list, you should see the IPs of your VMs | 00:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus a couple of others | 00:46 |
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| mrproper | http://pastebin.com/bu9qFzue | 00:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i wonder why the output of port-list shows your floating ips also as internal IPs | 00:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in other words, i dont think 172.24.4.227 should appear in both places | 00:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | here's what mine looks like... | 00:50 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Should the port-list be showing the internal or floating IPs? | 00:51 |
| mrproper | Unless I'm using the terms wrong | 00:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | http://pastebin.com/CWuudsdi | 00:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | so my VMs come up with 192.168.240.x as fixed IPs | 00:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then i can associate a pool of floating IPs to them from 172.24.240.x | 00:52 |
| mrproper | Yeah something isn't right | 00:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in floatingip-list, see how the ID matches the port of the 192.168.240.2 vm? | 00:53 |
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| mrproper | Yeah they basically reference each other | 00:54 |
| mrproper | And to confirm, I should not be seeing the 10. IPs in the port listing? | 00:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what are those? | 00:56 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Hmmm does this make a difference? | 00:57 |
| mrproper | http://sharebucketapp.com/g1NmJjNjgyMzM5ZjI1M2 | 00:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah, yeah | 00:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can that host see the world from 172.24.4/24 ? | 00:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess i should also ask if this is an all-in-one install | 00:59 |
| mrproper | Yes it is an all-in-one | 00:59 |
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| mrproper | Due to routing on my network it wouldn't be able to ping my home gateway from 172.24.4. | 01:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh | 01:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm... | 01:01 |
| mrproper | It still should be able to associate ports I'd assume. | 01:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i'm trying to figure this out on my devstack box | 01:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, so i see a list of 'ports to be associated' | 01:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | it just shows my vm | 01:05 |
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| mrproper | What are you looking at? | 01:06 |
| mrproper | Do I need a router for this or no? | 01:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | a v-router, yeah | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | so what you should see in network topology is your public net and your private net with a router in the middle | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | and your vms hanging off the private net | 01:08 |
| mrproper | the router connects to both? | 01:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah it basically SNATs your vm traffic | 01:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | and when you set a floating ip, DNATs it for you back to the vm | 01:10 |
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| mrproper | My network topology shows a router connected to both public and private. | 01:12 |
| mrproper | Then the instance is connected to nothing | 01:13 |
| mrproper | And to think...I thought IPv6 would bring the end of NAT :) | 01:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we have to get that instance connected to something | 01:14 |
| mrproper | And that's what I'm confused about why it's not happening | 01:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | when you launched the instance, did you select a network for it? | 01:15 |
| mrproper | I think so. Let me start from scratch with a new instance. | 01:16 |
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| mrproper | Huzzah | 01:17 |
| mrproper | I think it's working | 01:17 |
| mrproper | Because I didn't have an internal network, no internal network was assigned. | 01:17 |
| mrproper | Wait...maybe it's not. | 01:18 |
| mrproper | Nope | 01:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dur | 01:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | what happened? | 01:19 |
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| mrproper | It showed the icon instantiating behind the private address connected then shifted to the middle without a port. | 01:20 |
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| chrisd__ | I used RDO to setup OpenStack. It looks like Nova and Neutron are both running. I got the impression that one or ther other should be running. Am I missing something that I have both of these running? | 01:21 |
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| mrproper | Nope both should be | 01:21 |
| mrproper | They're different functions | 01:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova should run, but not nova-net | 01:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | although... i've heard people say they found both running at once in RDO | 01:21 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Want to do some quick screen sharing? | 01:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | one of my plans today was to install RDO and see for myself but... that didn't work out so well | 01:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yeah i think we can do that | 01:23 |
| chrisd__ | http://pastebin.com/yyMnV1cy <--- so does this mean that neutron is running and I should follow the instructions for Neutron floating IPs? | 01:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | chrisd__: sure looks like it | 01:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could try the commands and see what happens | 01:24 |
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| chrisd__ | Yeah, the nova commands seem to give errors. I was just confused as it seems both are running. However, it sounds like they should both be running. It's just that there are some additional components of Nova that are being taken over by Neutron. | 01:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: did any of your instances boot so far? | 01:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | or did they all go into error state | 01:28 |
| mrproper | They boot only to a certain point and go into error state | 01:28 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Tell me if I am doing any of this wrong | 01:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | so they're trying to build then die... | 01:28 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Did I just setup the network right? | 01:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it looks ok. you can leave out the key stuff for now if you're just launching cirros | 01:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | cirros, tiny flavor... with that private network assigned | 01:29 |
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| mrproper | Yeah | 01:30 |
| mrproper | I've always been booting fedora btw. First try with cirros | 01:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd stick with cirros for testing just because its tiny and super easy | 01:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks like its gonna fail | 01:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | your 'tiny' flavor is a bit... not so tiny | 01:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | mine is 64 mb ram and zero disk | 01:31 |
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| mrproper | Ha | 01:31 |
| mrproper | That's what she said | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | was that the default in packsack? | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | ha | 01:31 |
| mrproper | Those are defaults | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | there goes the neighborhood... | 01:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | huh, thats interesting | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | so deleting the instances always works? | 01:32 |
| mrproper | Yeah it seems to, sure | 01:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we're going to hit the command line and logs in a bit | 01:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | the web interface hides all of the good stuff | 01:32 |
| mrproper | Does it look like I'm doing anything obviously wrong? | 01:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | no, but i dont know what the defaults looked like | 01:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i also havent used packstack | 01:33 |
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| mrproper | Lets CLI this up yo | 01:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so whats 'nova list' say | 01:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats how you list the instances for your tenant | 01:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | well thats interesting, its supposedly running | 01:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ding | 01:34 |
| mrproper | Oh what the fuck | 01:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so do 'ip netns' | 01:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | or do that... | 01:34 |
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| mrproper | Oh snap, a cubs fan here!!! Go cubs!!! | 01:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 01:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | the who? :) | 01:35 |
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| mrproper | No, the Cubs. The Who is a band. | 01:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | the guess who? | 01:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so.. | 01:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you ping anything from the cirros console? | 01:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | you said the internet didn't work, so maybe try some IP on the other subnet | 01:36 |
| mrproper | I can't ping my home router, but I don't have routing setup for that interface. | 01:36 |
| mrproper | I mean on that router. | 01:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, thats going to help if it worked | 01:36 |
| mrproper | Damn I gotta plugin to serial for that. | 01:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | try pinging one of the interfaces on the v-router | 01:36 |
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| mrproper | That should be it, right? | 01:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | you apparently have a couple of qrouter namespaces... must be some cruft hanging around | 01:37 |
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| mrproper | I did delete a couple of routers | 01:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah its that 225 or whatever | 01:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | route -n | 01:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | or netstat -rn | 01:38 |
| mrproper | Thank you :) | 01:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok, so your router is working | 01:39 |
| mrproper | It can ping the private address space | 01:39 |
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| mrproper | As I said, my home router isn't routing for those subnets. | 01:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | now that 172.24.4 network needs a router interface to the outside world | 01:39 |
| mrproper | It should have one per this | 01:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so the external network that the router connects to need an additional gateway on that network (your cisco box or whatever) to reach the world | 01:40 |
| mrproper | If I move that public space to my home network, that SHOULD allow things to just work. | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | can this box (not the vm) ping 172.24.4.225? | 01:41 |
| mrproper | I assume my home network doesn't need to know about 10. since it's private right? | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | nah, the 10 is deep inside openstack | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | it doesnt see the light of day | 01:41 |
| mrproper | Are those basically GRE tunnels or something? | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | among other stuff | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump on those is interesting | 01:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, looking at iptables rules in various places | 01:42 |
| mrproper | Whats the best way for me to move my public ip address space to my home network so I don't need to putz with my cisco router | 01:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | what other interfaces are on that box? | 01:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | it connects to the net now, doesnt it? | 01:43 |
| mrproper | Which box? | 01:43 |
| mrproper | My actual server? | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | whatever is running packstack | 01:43 |
| mrproper | Yeah. It's just a single interface connected to my home network | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, so you should be able to make a public network that is a slice of your home network | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | with a small range of floating ips | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | and a gateway that points to your crisco box | 01:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | allocation pools is where your floating ips come from | 01:45 |
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| mrproper | What is the difference between a subnet and allocation pool | 01:46 |
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| mrproper | Crap, this subnet won't work will it. | 01:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | the subnet is the network assigned to that interface on the router | 01:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | so for example, both of my installs use 172.24.240/24 | 01:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, one uses 101-110 and the other 111-120 for their allocation pools | 01:48 |
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| mrproper | Where do I set the allocation pool? I don't see it on here. | 01:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | it was when you made the subnet | 01:49 |
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| mrproper | Is it the DHCP stuff? | 01:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | no | 01:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, wonder if you can't add it later... | 01:50 |
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| mrproper | Hmmm won't let me delete | 01:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah you kind of have to work backwards | 01:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | ports go away first, then the subnet, then the network | 01:52 |
| mrproper | Why can a network have multiple subnets | 01:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | the network is just a container | 01:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can have multiple subnets on a router, right? | 01:53 |
| mrproper | Do I need to create a port here or no? | 01:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont think so | 01:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm also not used to seeing the gui version of this | 01:54 |
| mrproper | Why would this port not be coming up? | 01:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably nothing attached to it | 01:55 |
| mrproper | Boom, router attached | 01:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm. | 01:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | where did the 4.225 stuff come from anyway? | 01:57 |
| mrproper | It was default | 01:57 |
| mrproper | Magi | 01:57 |
| mrproper | magic | 01:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that diagram looks weird | 01:58 |
| mrproper | Well it is connected to two public interfaces | 01:58 |
| mrproper | I wish I could disable an interface from the web UI | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm thinking we should try this stuff from the cli | 01:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | delete whats there, add it back | 01:59 |
| mrproper | Yeah why not? Learning opportunity. | 01:59 |
| mrproper | Delete everything or just the public stuff? | 01:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | probably everything... and dont forget the instancew | 01:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | we should see what other flavors you have | 02:00 |
| mrproper | Volumes or no? | 02:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can probably leave the volumes | 02:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | so do you do everything as the admin tenant? | 02:00 |
| mrproper | That's what was default but I wouldn't mind creating a new tenant for fun | 02:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | what network wont it let you delete? | 02:01 |
| mrproper | That guy | 02:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be ports on it? | 02:01 |
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| mrproper | Nope, won't let me | 02:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | try it under the admin project? | 02:02 |
| mrproper | I'm not sure I understand the difference between Networks in the Project section and Networks in the Admin section | 02:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | humm... | 02:03 |
| mrproper | Lets try to delete it from the console | 02:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | list-ports | 02:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, port-list | 02:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | damn, i need to get some food in me | 02:04 |
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| mrproper | See that? | 02:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'll want to use those UUIDs | 02:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | like... everywhere | 02:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder what that owner stuff is all about | 02:06 |
| mrproper | Those id strings are quite annoying | 02:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are there other accounts floating around? | 02:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | keystone user-list | 02:07 |
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| mrproper | There you go | 02:08 |
| mrproper | Those were all default. I created none. | 02:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 02:08 |
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| mrproper | router1 is under the other project | 02:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you go back to the command that puked? | 02:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can also run neutron commands direct... like 'neutron net-list' | 02:09 |
| mrproper | Because it's in the other project, I haven't deleted the ports off it. | 02:09 |
| mrproper | Yeah this is a little shorter. | 02:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the other error... about being owned by someone else | 02:10 |
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| mrproper | That one? | 02:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you source the admin user rc file? | 02:11 |
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| mrproper | Yes I did | 02:11 |
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| mrproper | Should I just delete the demo project altogether? | 02:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, could be somethign stuck | 02:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | or an instance didnt really give up its ports | 02:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could try that | 02:13 |
| mrproper | Delete admin tenant or si there something fancy about it? | 02:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | just the demo | 02:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | so this packstack thing... is it RDO, or something else? | 02:14 |
| mrproper | RDO | 02:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 02:14 |
| mrproper | That quick start page, that's what I did | 02:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, i need a break for a bit to grab food | 02:15 |
| mrproper | For sure | 02:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | before i pass out | 02:15 |
| mrproper | I'm going to charge my laptop a bit | 02:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | maybe you can search around for ways to delete that pesky thing | 02:16 |
| mrproper | I gotta get garbage together for tomorrow, then I will | 02:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | using java? | 02:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | i hear it has garbage collection | 02:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | although if it worked, it would collect itself | 02:17 |
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| mrproper | Ha | 02:18 |
| mrproper | I wish | 02:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i also suggest perusing this little gem: http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 02:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | ->food() | 02:20 |
| mrproper | I was looking at that document. Saved it. What sucks is I don't deal with iptables so I need to read up on that to understand syntax more. | 02:20 |
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| n3twalk3r_ | Anyone consider themselves a pro at all-in-one deployments of openstack? Looking to contract a guru to lead my install. :) I want to deploy openstack on top of Centos 6.4, and then add in a VPS/vm ISO of Linux Cloud with a virtual cpanel & various plugins as first items on the openstack setup. Ideas? Input anyone? | 02:25 |
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| n3twalk3r_ | guess I'll got to freelancer and see if I get any bites - thought I would give those in here a chance at the gig first - thanks everyone :) | 02:31 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Got it | 02:44 |
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| mrproper | I had to run router-interface-delete router1 1c90e99a-b3d1-44f1-9f1b-927e49765f2f and then things freed up | 02:44 |
| mrproper | I don't like the CLI syntax. One command is router-port-list and the other is router-interface-list | 02:44 |
| mrproper | I mean, router-interface-add/delete | 02:44 |
| mrproper | Lack of consistency | 02:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 02:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: iptables... heh | 02:57 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am creating a new user and project for myself | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | if i was humanoid and could run openstack, i'd have many liver instances | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | found zero leftovers in the fridge, had to resort to making stuff | 02:58 |
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| * mrproper shakes head | 02:58 | |
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| mrproper | Okay lets try this now. | 02:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok... guess we'll find out what works with packstack | 02:59 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: When creating this stuff, is it best to create network->subnet->router->instance? | 02:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | pretty much | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you assign a role to your tenant? | 03:01 |
| mrproper | Hmmm maybe | 03:01 |
| mrproper | I set a new user as admin | 03:01 |
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| mrproper | Should I set allocation pools for internal addresses or does it just default properly? | 03:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'll want a pool otherwise it might step on an existing IP on your network | 03:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | here you go using that gui again :) | 03:04 |
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| mrproper | Shit | 03:04 |
| mrproper | Good point. | 03:04 |
| mrproper | Blech, I'll delete it all and start over. | 03:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | nah | 03:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | keep chugging | 03:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | it might work! | 03:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | or not... | 03:06 |
| mrproper | Ha | 03:06 |
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| mrproper | There ya go | 03:07 |
| mrproper | So fresh and so clean clean | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | rite | 03:08 |
| mrproper | Same steps, just creating? | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | sorta | 03:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so do a keystone tenant-list and get the uuid of your tenant | 03:09 |
| mrproper | Hmmm... | 03:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then neutron net-create --tenant-id <uuid> demo-net (or whatever you call your inside network) | 03:10 |
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| mrproper | Oh, I also need to recreate the rc file | 03:10 |
| mrproper | Or shouldn't I? | 03:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah you do | 03:10 |
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| mrproper | Do i still need to set the tenant-id? | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably not | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | things can get a little sketchy in here... we'll see how it behaves | 03:13 |
| mrproper | Okay that's done. | 03:13 |
| mrproper | Now create a subnet? | 03:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron subnet-create int-net-name 192.168.x.y/24 --dns-nameservers list=true 1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8 | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, the inside subnet | 03:15 |
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| mrproper | And is this for the one facing my home network? | 03:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is the internal private net for your vms | 03:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron router-create <name> | 03:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron agent-list... get id of l3 agent... then l3-router-agent-add <id> routername | 03:17 |
| mrproper | Is private-subnet the name of the subnet or the name of the network? | 03:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | er.. | 03:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | what was your network called? | 03:19 |
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| mrproper | private | 03:19 |
| mrproper | What are agents? | 03:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | l3agent routes and does some firewall stuff, the dhcpagent does... dhcp | 03:20 |
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| mrproper | So it's a feature on the router basically? | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah kind of | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | it creates a namespace | 03:21 |
| mrproper | Do I want to setup all three agents or just the L3? | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | just l3 here | 03:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | router-interface-add <router id> <subnet id> | 03:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you might have to scroll up to get those | 03:23 |
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| mrproper | Now do the same thing for the external address space huh? | 03:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | a little different | 03:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | net-create ext-net --router:external=True | 03:25 |
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| mrproper | Does that basically set a default route? | 03:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | not quite yet | 03:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | subnet-create --allocation-pool start=1.1.1.1,end=2.2.2.2 --gateway <your home ip network gw> ext-net <your home ip network cidr> | 03:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think thats what i want... | 03:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, and this.... | 03:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | --enable-dhcp=Fales | 03:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | false | 03:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats kind of important :) | 03:29 |
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| mrproper | Who thought of this syntax? | 03:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh dont worry, you'll be dreaming about it soon | 03:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | granted most of this should be hidden by the gui, but if you're going to admin it, its going to break in ways the gui cant help | 03:30 |
| mrproper | That's what I tell my GUI friends!!! | 03:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | router-gateway-set router1 <ext net id> | 03:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you set security group rules before to allow ping and ssh? | 03:32 |
| mrproper | I did not, no. | 03:32 |
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| mrproper | At least I don't thin kI did. | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, guess we shall see if rdo did | 03:33 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Did that router-gateway-set do the default gateway then basically? | 03:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:35 |
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| mrproper | Is there a list of this stuff or have you basically memorized it? | 03:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | this is from a note i have of what worked | 03:36 |
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| mrproper | Something feels wrong | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | its essentially based on some combination of the unofficial grizzly install guide and the official install guide | 03:36 |
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| mrproper | Yuuuup gotta fix something | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh? | 03:38 |
| mrproper | Need to change the IP address on the router ext interface | 03:38 |
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| mrproper | Notice the IP address and the allocation pool overlaps | 03:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | o.. | 03:38 |
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| mrproper | How do I update the interface? | 03:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | umm.. | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont know if you can just change that | 03:41 |
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| mrproper | Lets see if it breaks :) | 03:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 03:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova secgroup-list | 03:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | should have something in there | 03:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova secgroup-list-rules default | 03:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok, that needs help | 03:44 |
| mrproper | Ha | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 03:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 0.0.0.0/0 | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | er | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/0 | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | then see if they exist | 03:45 |
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| mrproper | This may be me being anal but their need consistency in the commands | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol, i thought the same thing | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | its in the works. neutron is still fairly bleeding edge. | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see lots of bug fixes for commands and error messages going by | 03:46 |
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| mrproper | I'm trying to list the rules | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can just use 'default' here | 03:48 |
| mrproper | There ya go | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova secgroup-list-rules default | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Is -1 basically saying all ports? | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Or null? | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | icmp has no ports | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... null | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Okay so more of a null | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Got it | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | you should see how these things show up in the gui | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron floatingip-create ext-net | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | or whatever you called it | 03:49 |
| mrproper | Boom | 03:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so now we see what this looks like in the gui | 03:50 |
| mrproper | BTW, it didn't break. | 03:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 03:50 |
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| mrproper | It was smart enough to not make two interfaces the same IP | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | now comes the fun part... booting a vm | 03:50 |
| mrproper | From CLI I assume. | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | do a nova flavor-list | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we can try it from the gui | 03:51 |
| mrproper | Lets do this from the CLI | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm curious about your flavors though | 03:51 |
| mrproper | Experience | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok... | 03:51 |
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| mrproper | Those are the defaults, really. | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | wow, thats... heh | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | check these out... | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, nevermind | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | messy output | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think those will be fine, and we'll use cirros | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova image-list | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh... do you have a keypair created? | 03:52 |
| mrproper | I did set one up earlier. | 03:53 |
| mrproper | What is the purpose of the key pair? i didn't follow that. | 03:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | when you launch an instance, it generally has no accounts on it | 03:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... the keypair enables public key authentication | 03:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | it gets injected when you launch the instance | 03:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you have an id_rsa.pub ? | 03:53 |
| mrproper | I do but not one I maintain or care much bout i | 03:54 |
| mrproper | Varies from system to system, etc. | 03:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | if this works, you'll be able to ssh into the cirros instance by ssh cirros@ip and no password | 03:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, this is just for this system | 03:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | just for the keypair stuff | 03:54 |
| mrproper | I do have a key on this system yes | 03:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova keypair-add --pub-key id_rsa.pub <whateverkeyname> | 03:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova keypair-list | 03:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | hopefully there's just one | 03:55 |
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| mrproper | Well shit | 03:55 |
| mrproper | No key | 03:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think you typed that wrong | 03:56 |
| mrproper | Okay so I can't gen a key with this huh | 03:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | just --pub-key | 03:57 |
| mrproper | I don't have a ssh dir on here I guess | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ssh-keygen | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont need a passphrase | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you'll have one :) | 03:57 |
| mrproper | nod | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova keypair-list | 03:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | ding | 03:58 |
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| mrproper | I'll need to do this again on my own later and write down the commands | 03:58 |
| mrproper | Figure it out by breaking it | 03:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova boot --flavor 1 --image <cirros image name> --key-name <key name> <vm name> | 03:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if my brain worked, it should boot something | 03:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova list | 03:59 |
| mrproper | It iddn't | 03:59 |
| mrproper | Can't find a single network | 03:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah you'll ahve to specify one of those | 04:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i did mine a little differently... hold on | 04:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | --nic net-id=<net id> | 04:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | something like that | 04:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | its just nova list | 04:01 |
| mrproper | It's requesting a server | 04:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think that switch goes into the entire nova boot command | 04:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | uuid iirc | 04:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | because they're cool, and you'll learn to like them | 04:02 |
| mrproper | Oh will I? | 04:02 |
| mrproper | Huzzah | 04:03 |
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| mrproper | I want to learn to script against this | 04:03 |
| mrproper | That will teach me the commands :) | 04:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think thats why its there | 04:03 |
| mrproper | For scripting? | 04:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | and because everyone loves uuids, just like they love xml | 04:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, plenty of organizations customize all this | 04:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | its how rdo and devstack do all their underlying magic | 04:04 |
| mrproper | I work for a reseller. I don't care to customize for us. I care to customize to show customers how to make this go smoothly with heat. | 04:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | once you play around, the fun part is building all of this shit from scratch | 04:04 |
| mrproper | If that's the proper tool of course. | 04:04 |
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| mrproper | compiling? | 04:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no, just configuring it all from scratch | 04:04 |
| mrproper | Beyond what we did? | 04:05 |
| mrproper | Is that not scratch or was there a lot of intelligence in the background | 04:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | starting with keystone, then glance, then nova, then neutron, then more nova, then horizon, then... | 04:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rdo did a LOT for you | 04:05 |
| mrproper | Oh I see | 04:05 |
| mrproper | That will be a future project. I'll set it up inside of an instance someday | 04:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/index.html | 04:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats about all of the steps | 04:06 |
| mrproper | It's up | 04:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | well you're not getting into that ip | 04:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | since its inside | 04:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | first thing to do... grab a console to it | 04:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | in the gui, or by 'nova get-vnc-console <instance> novnc' | 04:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | which will return a url | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | cirros isnt ready yet | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | now it is.. | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | so try pinging the outside world | 04:07 |
| mrproper | Nope | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | try 10.10.10.1 | 04:07 |
| mrproper | ... | 04:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, now the router's interface to the outside | 04:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | whatever that was | 04:08 |
| mrproper | There | 04:08 |
| mrproper | Looks like a routing issue perhaps? | 04:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... | 04:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | this box has one outside interface? | 04:09 |
| mrproper | Yes, one and only one | 04:09 |
| mrproper | Well, that's plugged in. | 04:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | is it in promisc mode? | 04:09 |
| mrproper | Great question. Probably not. | 04:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's some goop about that | 04:09 |
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| mrproper | That's an odd requirement | 04:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its sending frames from mac addresses not really known by the actual bare interface | 04:10 |
| mrproper | That's what I was wondering | 04:10 |
| mrproper | However, this isn't setup as bare metal yet | 04:10 |
| mrproper | This is VMware | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, the vswitch needs to accept promisc mode | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you dont mind me asking, what reseller do you work for? | 04:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would have probably stopped or deleted the instance before rebooting | 04:20 |
| mrproper | Well shit | 04:20 |
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| linea | Hello is there any way to restore accidentally deleted objects in swift | 04:56 |
| notmyname | linea: you issued a DELETE to the object? | 04:57 |
| linea | notmyname : Yea | 04:57 |
| notmyname | linea: then the data was deleted from the cluster | 04:58 |
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| linea | notmyname : If i use object versions and delete new file will the old versions also get deleted | 04:59 |
| notmyname | linea: no. the versioned write feature essentially creates a stack. new writes push onto the stack and deletes pop the stack | 05:00 |
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| linea | notmyname : So i can find the old versions in the old versions container | 05:01 |
| linea | notmyname: Thanx for your time | 05:03 |
| notmyname | linea: yes | 05:03 |
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| qingluo | hi all, im install openstack on ubuntu12.04 havana with Guide PDF. and when i install dashboard storage for dashboard. https://gist.github.com/qingluo/7541278 | 06:48 |
| qingluo | can any one help me? | 06:48 |
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| vks | hi | 06:55 |
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| vks | hey anyone used devstack multi node installation ??? | 06:58 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I'm following this guide -> http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.html. I notice that br-ex have ONBOOT=no. Is this correct? in this way i cannot reach the ip assigned to the external interface. | 07:51 |
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| jblack | So, I found a 10 minute openstack setup script at http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html | 08:42 |
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| jblack | Is that script a good starting place? Will I be able to scale it out to more servers later, or is it intended as more of a educational tool? | 08:44 |
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| dachary | Hi, I'm having a "DeviceIsBusy: The supplied device (vde) is busy." when trying to attach a LVM backed volume to a Havana instance ( kvm ) on ubuntu 12.04.3 using puppet modules from stackforge. Is this a known issue ? | 09:27 |
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| dachary | I find old issues related to apparmor but I'm not sure how to verify this. | 09:29 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. Someone can help me with ""Skipping unknown group key: firewall_driver | 09:35 |
| ntt_ | in the dhcp_agent log? | 09:35 |
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| ntt_ | (neutron, havana, centos) | 09:35 |
| dachary | 2013-11-19 09:34:14.591+0000: 24990: warning : virAuditSend:135 : Failed to send audit message virt=qemu resrc=disk reason=attach vm="ins\ | 09:36 |
| dachary | tance-00000048" uuid=1f2386f8-fde7-44d1-afc0-1960cec3d22a old-disk="?" new-disk="/dev/disk/by-path/ip-188.165.223.112:3260-iscsi-iqn.2010\ | 09:36 |
| dachary | -10.org.openstack:volume-93b39c85-6b3c-4f86-92d1-dc6f350188a6-lun-1": Operation not permitted | 09:36 |
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| dachary | in | 09:36 |
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| Qu310 | Ubuntu 12.04, Havana w/ RBD Trying to live migrate a vm and getting "ERROR nova.virt.libvirt.driver [-] [instance: 19d02ec9-b9b3-4f68-ae3b-033df26962d2] Live Migration failure: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor" any ideas? | 09:40 |
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| vks | i am using devstack | 09:57 |
| vks | and when i ran ./clean.sh | 09:57 |
| vks | and then tried to run ./stack.sh , mysql is unable to sstart | 09:57 |
| vks | any help?? | 09:57 |
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| odyssey4me | I know this is ancient history, but perhaps someone can help? Does anyone know how volumes are attached to instances (from a libvirt standpoint) in Essex? I have an instance that's got three volumes connected from Openstack's standpoint, but one isn't connected from the instance OS standpoint. Libvirt's config shows nothing relating to volumes, unlike later versions where I see the volumes attached via libvirt in the xml dump. | 10:04 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | how does KVM does pooling or clustering? I ask because we have 6 large servers which we want to turn into a private cloud with openstack. | 10:11 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - KVM is a hypervisor which is one of many managed by Openstack. Generally speaking, to my knowledge, resource/server pooling/clustering should be done in Openstack, not KVM. It's perhaps better to scope the question with what you'd like to achieve? | 10:13 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I want to have one openstack installation (nova, etc.) which can create VMs on a group of KVM servers | 10:14 |
| christophe-de | Hi, I'm struggeling with setting up OpenStack with Open vSwitch on Ubuntu 13.10. All devices are present but the devices' network connection isn't working. Sometimes a VM doesn't have a network device at all, sometimes it doesn't get a ip, sometimes it get an ip but is only reachable with arping, not with ping. | 10:14 |
| SebastianKreutzb | the question is if KVM is doing the clustering/grouping or if openstack is doing it so that each KVM server does not know about his "neighbor" | 10:15 |
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| christophe-de | Where should I start searching? What information, which config files do you want to see? | 10:16 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - Openstack will manage the servers as individual hosts. You can opt to divide up the hosts into groupings according to spec, or according to arbitrary groups. The arbitrary groups may be to provide seperate 'availability zones' so that customers can deploy something ike a replicated SQL cluster between the zones to have assurance that the instances won't be on the same host. | 10:17 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - otherwise, the default deployment will simply have all hosts in one zone and the instances will randomly distribute to the host(s) with the most available resources. | 10:18 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | and is it possible to have group 3 servers in a single availability zone and openstack is distributing new VMs on these 3 servers?= | 10:18 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ah, good :) | 10:18 |
| RaviTezu | I'm using grizzly release on centos 6 and I'd like to use dnsmasq for dhcp/dns.. | 10:19 |
| RaviTezu | I'm able to launch instances, but they are unable to reach this dnsmasq server(which is a network node). | 10:19 |
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| RaviTezu | any help? | 10:19 |
| SebastianKreutzb | what is the common practice with KVM: the openstack controller is on an external server or on one of the KVM servers itself? | 10:19 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - It depends on how busy things will get, but most installations have the controller server(s) seperate from the compute hosts. | 10:20 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | and is something like a compute node necessary where a nova-compute is installed on each KVM server? I ask because I played with Xenserver where these things are very complex. | 10:21 |
| odyssey4me | RaviTezu - do you mean your own dnsmasq? You are aware that the networking service makes use of dnsmasq already? | 10:21 |
| RaviTezu | yes, i know.. quantum uses dnsmasq. | 10:21 |
| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - yes, nova-compute runs on every compute node. It handles the management of the hypervisor. There will also be a networking service to handle the management of that. | 10:22 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | and the networking service is on every compute node? | 10:22 |
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| odyssey4me | RaviTezu - in that case the troubleshooting will depend on how you've set quantum up... are you using namespaces, ovs, gre tunneling, etc? | 10:23 |
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| RaviTezu | I'm using ovs | 10:23 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - not the whole networking service, just the agent if you're using Quantum/Neutron. The agent manages the compute host's network configuration to allow instances to communicate with others in the tenant and outside of the network. | 10:24 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ah okay. and on the controller node is the whole networking service? | 10:24 |
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| RaviTezu | odyssey4me: dnsmasq is running on the network node. but the /etc/dnsmasq doesn't have any configuration(every line in commented). | 10:26 |
| RaviTezu | is there way to check whether the dnsmasq server is serving dhcp requests? | 10:26 |
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| odyssey4me | RaviTezu - that's because an individual dnsmasq process is started for each subnet. The details for the network are provided via command-line. Check the output of 'ps -ef' and you'll see what's running. | 10:28 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | odyssey4me - Nova-compute is installed directly on each KVM host or is it installed on a VM on each KVM host? | 10:29 |
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| odyssey4me | RaviTezu - you can also run a tcpdump in the appropriate namespace, if you've implemented namespaces, to check whether the packets are coming in. You can run a tcpdump on the host with the appropriate tap interface to determine whether the instance is actually sending anything out. | 10:29 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - nova-compute is an agent on the hypervisor, so it runs directly on the host. | 10:30 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | odyssey4me: ah great, so it seems the KVM setup is far simpler than the one with Xenserver. Will try to simulate that setup now. Thanks! | 10:30 |
| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - check http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html#overview-architecture | 10:31 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | thanks! | 10:31 |
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| odyssey4me | RaviTezu - these may help: http://techbackground.blogspot.com/2013/06/dnsmasq-logging-and-options-for-quantum.html and http://techbackground.blogspot.com/2013/05/debugging-quantum-dhcp-and-open-vswitch.html | 10:32 |
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| RaviTezu | odyssey4me: thanks | 10:33 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | odyssey4me: sorry, one more :) we have a 10TB NFS at our data center. can I use that with openstack or is it better to use internal discs on each host? In the 2nd option, where are snapshots stored? | 10:41 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - you have some options there... Openstack has two storage areas to consider at the moment... One for instances, the other for volumes (which are secondary disks that can be attached to instances). | 10:42 |
| odyssey4me | You can choose to use your NFS for both, or for one or the other. | 10:42 |
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| odyssey4me | If you care about being able to 'live migrate' instances from one host to another, or you care about losing instance disks if a host fails, then I would suggest using NFS for both the instance store (/var/lib/nova/instances) and for volumes (cinder). | 10:43 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - obviously there's a performance hit using network storage, so you may choose instead to use local disks for instance OS storage and encourage the use of volumes for data storage. | 10:44 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I'm using neutron (havana) with centos. in this guide -> http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.html br-ex has ONBOOT=no. Is this correct? With this configuration i can ping internal dhcp, internal gateway but i cannot reach external ip | 10:46 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | odyssey4me - so I could use the NFS for block storage? otherwise the creation of snapshots is not possible? | 10:47 |
| odyssey4me | ntt_ - as I recall onboot=no as ovs needs to come up before it can come up. Try using 'ip link up' (I think that's right) on the interface? | 10:47 |
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| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb -snapshots are always possible, but work differently based on the subsystem. Instance stapshots are done to the file store in /var/lib/nova/instances, then uploaded into Glance. Volume snapshots are done by Cinder using whatever the volume back-end provides. | 10:49 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | odyssey4me - and where does Glance store it? | 10:50 |
| ntt_ | odyssey4me: if i do ip link set br-ex up, interface appears in "ifconfig" but without an ip (configured in /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-br-ex) | 10:50 |
| odyssey4me | SebastianKreutzb - that would depend on what your backend for Glance is. Default would be file store, but Swift and RBD are also options... probably more but I can't recall off-hand. | 10:50 |
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| odyssey4me | ntt_ and if you ifup instead? | 10:51 |
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| ntt_ | odyssey4me: device br-ex already exists; can't create bridge with the same name . even tough br-ex doesn't appear in ifconfig | 10:52 |
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| odyssey4me | ntt_ I remember having similar troubles, but my memory's a little hazy on how we resolved it all... also we use Ubuntu. I'm unfortunately not in a position right now to dig into my notes to figure that one out. Sorry :/ | 10:55 |
| ntt_ | ok, thanks | 10:55 |
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| dobber | Hi: In my nova-network logs I get: ERROR nova.openstack.common.rpc.common [-] AMQP server on controller:5672 is unreachable: Socket closed. | 11:38 |
| dobber | I can telnet to the host:port from that machine | 11:39 |
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| larsbutler | dobber: are there any errors in your rabbitmq logs? | 11:46 |
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| dobber | no, the documentation does not state that I should change the rabbit_password in the compute nova.conf | 11:47 |
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| larsbutler | dobber: are you connecting from the same machine or from a remote machine? | 11:48 |
| dobber | remote | 11:48 |
| dobber | after i change the config, it's ok again | 11:48 |
| larsbutler | what did you change? | 11:48 |
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| dobber | on compute node: /etc/nova/nova.conf -> rabbit_password = guest | 11:50 |
| dobber | changed the default 'guest' password to the right one | 11:50 |
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| dobber | also the network portion of the debian install guide is totaly broken | 11:54 |
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| vivi | hi there, is this the right place to ask some questions for help? | 12:03 |
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| drazyl | vivi - ask away, someone might know the answer | 12:05 |
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| vivi | ok thx | 12:06 |
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| vivi | i've setup havanna on a controller node and one client, i was able to sucssessfully do all steps in the manual described until i came to boot instances. they were created, but i have vm_state error and power state nostate now. | 12:08 |
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| vivi | they already didn't get an ip address. | 12:09 |
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| vivi | i still can't delet them | 12:10 |
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| vivi | on "nova start Ubuntu_8core" i get ERROR: Instance xxxx in vm_state error. Cannot start while the instance is in this state. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-804f18cb-4ecd-4986-a40f-f9b1bf780052) | 12:15 |
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| drazyl | try "nova reset-state --active Ubuntu_8core" to reset the state back to active | 12:16 |
| drazyl | then try deleting it | 12:16 |
| pax | im trying to launch an instance and Im seeing a ERROR state | 12:16 |
| pax | can some help me the log file i need to look into ? | 12:16 |
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| vivi | i did ... the instance is still in the database and is still on the node | 12:17 |
| drazyl | pax - under ubuntu on the compute node try /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log | 12:17 |
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| RaviTezu | pax: may be /var/log/nova/compute.log | 12:18 |
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| vivi | oh, it just deleted the instance ... hmm, maybe there was a misconfiguration before. | 12:20 |
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| drazyl | vivi - delete usually works as long as the instance isn't in an error state - what happens if you try and create a new one | 12:24 |
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| vivi | hmm, when i create a new instance on the controller, now it gets an ip address, but the state is error again ... | 12:24 |
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| vivi | on nova show Ubuntu_small it shows {u'message': u'Remote error: ProcessExecutionError Unexpected error while running command. and a lot of python lines | 12:26 |
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| drazyl | what are the last 2 or 3 of those lines? | 12:27 |
| vivi | and the ip address is gone | 12:27 |
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| vivi | the py messages? | 12:27 |
| drazyl | yup | 12:27 |
| drazyl | the clue is often in them | 12:27 |
| epsas | k/win 9 | 12:27 |
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| vivi | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/rpc/impl_kombu.py", line 816, in call | 12:29 |
| vivi | rpc_amqp.get_connection_pool(conf, Connection)) | 12:29 |
| vivi | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/rpc/amqp.py", line 574, in call | | | rv = list(rv) | 12:29 |
| vivi | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/rpc/amqp.py", line 539, in __iter__ raise result | 12:29 |
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| vivi | the node is offline ^^ | 12:36 |
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| drazyl | problems communating with the amq server? | 12:38 |
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| dobber | can anyone help me through the debian install process: i got this error on nova boot | 12:39 |
| dobber | http://pastie.org/8492462 | 12:39 |
| vivi | i don't know, maybe the nova.network has still the wrong configuration ... can't ping the node now | 12:40 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | Does Neutron support multi-host networking? | 12:40 |
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| BobBall | I think not SebastianKreutzb - I think that's one of the bigger areas where neutron needs work to get to parity with nova-network | 12:47 |
| BobBall | but I'm no expert | 12:47 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | just was reading in the docs, but I am always confused if I am browsing the latest openstack docs or not | 12:47 |
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| BobBall | I know that feeling! | 12:48 |
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| vivi | i'm misunderstandig the manual maybe ... for me the 10.0.0.0 (external) network is the "normal" network ... the internal network 192.168.0.0 is for openstack ... | 12:54 |
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| strikov | Hi guys. I wonder why I need to pass --fixed-range-v4=<..> to network-create when I use FlatNetwork (not FlatDHCPNetwork). I assume that FlatNetwork should just connect all guests to the bridge and leave all IP-assigning work to the main network's DHCP. Is that right? | 13:00 |
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| Trondh | richardboswell: I followed your 3-step blog today to try and build an ML2-based environment, but keep getting this error when spinning up instances: | 13:27 |
| Trondh | NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 13:27 |
| Trondh | Do you have any pointers to troubleshoot? | 13:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you use this line: | 13:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | libvirt_vif_driver = nova.virt.libvirt.vif.LibvirtGenericVIFDriver | 13:48 |
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| Trondh | does that go in the ml2_conf.ini file? | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its in the neutron.conf i think | 13:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seems to be complaining about the vif type specified somewhere | 13:52 |
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| Trondh | checking | 13:52 |
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| dobber | | b96fc9a2-d1af-4459-b04c-db62a7f79c82 | cirrOS16 | ACTIVE | None | Running | vmnet=10.0.0.2 | | 14:01 |
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| dobber | it took me 2 weeks | 14:01 |
| dobber | to have my first active host | 14:01 |
| dobber | cool | 14:01 |
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| dobber | because there is no info that the eth should be in promisc mode | 14:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 14:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | on which platform? | 14:02 |
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| dobber | debian | 14:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i think the official install docs talk about promisc mode | 14:02 |
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| dobber | nope | 14:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | interesting | 14:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.html | 14:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | that one says it | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | step 5 | 14:04 |
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| dobber | well i'm still here: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/nova-boot.html | 14:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, are you using nova-network? | 14:05 |
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| dobber | yep | 14:06 |
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| dobber | it's a step by step documentation | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the step before it gives you an option to use neutron | 14:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which kind of jumps you to another location in the doc for a while | 14:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this a multi-node setup? | 14:07 |
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| dobber | well it looked like an optional step for advanced usage | 14:08 |
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| cowntmoo | What does the --force flag do on nova volume-snapshot-create ? | 14:08 |
| dobber | Sam-I-Am: i'm first timer. dunno yet what i want | 14:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok. | 14:09 |
| dobber | i have a few hundred machines and i'm evaluating options | 14:09 |
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| Trondh | hmm, cant make sense of it. Not much info on ml2 out there either... | 14:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Trondh: i havent used it either. do any of your config files mention nova.virt.libvirt.vif ? | 14:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its probably something with that | 14:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i gotta run... back in a couple of hours | 14:17 |
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| cowntmoo | Want to backup running instances. Instance snapshot is too slow. Can I use a volume snapshot? | 14:19 |
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| paulwang | i want to adjust the nova-scheduler | 14:27 |
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| paulwang | Do you have any good ideas or good method ? | 14:27 |
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| mrproper | Is there a way to bring up an interface manually via Neutron? | 15:08 |
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| richardboswell | Trondh: sorry about that...let me see if I can track down why you are getting that error | 15:33 |
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| richardboswell | mrproper: what type of interface specifically? | 15:35 |
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| larsbutler | hey there, I've been following this guide (http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/index.html) to set up a small openstack cluster. So far everything works pretty well. I can create VMs,etc. However, the network configuration doesn't seem to allow VMs to access the outside world | 15:36 |
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| larsbutler | anyone know what I might be doing wrong? | 15:37 |
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| jfarschman | larsbutler: security groups and access settings can stop everything. | 15:43 |
| jfarschman | and a great number of people seem to have trouble with neutron. I'm pretty sure they have some router issues. | 15:43 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: I see. I'm actually not using neutron. At the moment, I just have keystone/glance/nova/cinder/horizon, and I'm using nova-network | 15:44 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: but I will check the security group settings… that has bitten me before | 15:44 |
| jfarschman | larsbutler: cool, me too. So start by checking that you have access settings alloying you in | 15:44 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: ah, yeah, I think you were right… I have ingress rules to allow ping and ssh, but egress *facepalm* | 15:45 |
| jfarschman | Best problem to have. | 15:46 |
| jfarschman | … a solved problem | 15:46 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: :D thanks for the tip | 15:47 |
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| larsbutler | hmm, it seems that there is no way to create egress rules for VMs to access the outside | 15:54 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: any idea about that? ^ | 15:54 |
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| jfarschman | larsbutler: hmmm…. Havana dashboard? | 15:55 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: yeah | 15:55 |
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| jfarschman | I was running that dashboard with a Grizzly backend and I recall seeing a simplified set of rules. | 15:55 |
| larsbutler | it seems that all rules default to direction=Ingress | 15:55 |
| larsbutler | hmm | 15:56 |
| jfarschman | may need to poke the api on the command line. | 15:56 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | larsbutler: The default behavior of security groups is for egress to be unrestricted. | 15:56 |
| jfarschman | ah… okay. | 15:57 |
| larsbutler | CaptainTacoSauce: oh okay | 15:57 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | larsbutler: If you're having outbound connectivity issues with your VMs, its more likely something with neutron. Your bridges, or routing config or something. | 15:57 |
| jfarschman | So you may have another issue. I'd poke around and see that cloud init is able to reach the APIPA address and configure you instances properly | 15:57 |
| larsbutler | CaptainTacoSauce: I'm not using neutron, just nova-network at the moment | 15:57 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Ah I don't have much experience with nova-network but I still blame it before security groups unless you manually modified the egress rules. | 15:58 |
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| larsbutler | CaptainTacoSauce: yeah, I don't know. The thing is, I can't seem to create any egress rules at all. | 15:58 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: Okay, how can I test that? Kind of a newb here... | 15:59 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | if you go through horizon, access and security, and edit the rules on your security group | 15:59 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | you should see egress ipv6 any ::/0 and ipv4 any 0.0.0.0/0 | 15:59 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | if so, egress is wide open | 15:59 |
| jfarschman | wget -q -O - http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/ @larsbutler inside your instance see if it can reach the metadata | 15:59 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | okay off to another meeting, good luck :D | 16:00 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: yeah, that's works it seems. I get a list of stuff, like ami-id, instance-id, etc. | 16:01 |
| larsbutler | CaptainTacoSauce: thanks! | 16:01 |
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| jfarschman | perfect. So, that's the data the clound-init needs access to get get things working. So…. is the instance properly configured with a valid gateway | 16:01 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: yes, it has a gateway, and I can ping it | 16:03 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: the ip of the gateway == the ip on br100 on the controller | 16:03 |
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| jfarschman | larsbutler: Something is nagging at me.Good IP config on the instance, gateway is valid. Yea. the BR100 makes sense and should work. | 16:04 |
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| jfarschman | and I assume you are pinging an IP and not something that needs name resolution | 16:04 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: yes, outbound ping to a IP or hostname behaves the same | 16:06 |
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| larsbutler | there are a couple of nova.conf params which I don't fully understand: flat_interface, flat_network_bridge, and public_interface | 16:08 |
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| larsbutler | I'm suspicious of public_interface, because it's set to eth1 | 16:09 |
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| jfarschman | So… yes, I have been particular in keeping all of my interface assignments the same on each node | 16:09 |
| larsbutler | and if I do an `ip a`, I see that eth1 has the floating IP i've assigned to the instance | 16:09 |
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| jfarschman | I am flat_interface=eth1 and public_interface=eth0 | 16:10 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: yeah, that actually makes more sense. I have the following: | 16:11 |
| jfarschman | Probably the only difference is I point directly out to my switch for the gateway. | 16:11 |
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| larsbutler | flat_network_bridge=br100, public_interface=eth1, flat_interface=eth1 | 16:11 |
| larsbutler | if I change the public_interface to eth0, my access to the VMs stops working | 16:11 |
| jfarschman | okay… well, I think that could work…. but I haven't tried it and there may be some fund stuff…. excuse me a moment. Just lost al connection | 16:12 |
| jfarschman | and I'm working on interface tuning | 16:12 |
| jfarschman | oh… nvm. Someone deleted the instance | 16:12 |
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| jfarschman | Im pretty sure you have a bit more to do when you change that Public. I'm not sure of everything, but certainly nova-network restart isn't going to be all of it. I think a pkill of dnsmasq at the minimum. | 16:15 |
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| dwt2 | does anyone know how to pass a network ID to heat when creating a stack? | 16:15 |
| jfarschman | perhaps an ip addr flush | 16:15 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: yeah, I've just been doing heavy-handed reboots after changes like that | 16:15 |
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| jfarschman | larsbutler: okay… I don't know where to look next. I know this because I'm inclined to put it in debug verbose and watch the logs | 16:16 |
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| jfarschman | brb | 16:17 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: okay, I'll keep poking around. I think (after seeing your configuration) that my public_interface was configured wrong, and I have some other problem | 16:18 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: thanks for the info | 16:18 |
| cowntmoo | Any advice on using volume snapshot against attached volumes? What does the force flag actually do? | 16:18 |
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| mrproper | Does it matter what network br-ex is in compared to the internal and external networks? | 16:21 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | This looks like a good time to plug this doc: http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 16:23 |
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| Chocobo | Is there any easier/cleaner way of changing the "flavor" of an instance other than taking a snapshot, destroying the first vm, and re-launching the snapshot with the new flavor? | 16:25 |
| mrproper | CaptainTacoSauce: Yeah that's on my reading list. | 16:25 |
| Chocobo | great.. now I want tacos. | 16:25 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | and I want to go home and play FF7 again | 16:25 |
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| Chocobo | Well look at that. We just ruined eachothers day. heh | 16:26 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | or... I made your lunch plans and you made my evening plans, win/win | 16:26 |
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| Chocobo | true. tip of the hat. | 16:27 |
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| mrproper | CaptainTacoSauce: I'm a FF6 guy myself. | 16:28 |
| mrproper | FF7 is good. I keep thinking about getting it on PS3 | 16:28 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | 6 is awesome. Sabin / Edgar / Umaro / Gogo ... unstoppable team. | 16:28 |
| mrproper | I loved the magic system too. | 16:29 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah, learning through Espers. | 16:29 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | 7 is still best though. :D | 16:29 |
| Chocobo | I think 6 is the only one I haven't played.... that and the one where the girls wear different clothes. That just looks idiotic. | 16:29 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | You can play them all on emulator you know. | 16:29 |
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| * Chocobo thinks back to the first time he saw "Knights of Round" spell. | 16:30 | |
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| hesco | On this page: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 16:35 |
| hesco | how does the database creation relate to rabbitmq in section 2.4 ??? | 16:35 |
| hesco | are those databases uses by rabbitmq? | 16:35 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | rabbitmq and mysql are two backend systems required to build the openstack infrastructure | 16:40 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | you can use alternatives to rabbitmq and alternatives to mysql but each are required and for the most part, separate | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bleh @ freenode | 16:45 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am :( | 16:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: wut? | 16:45 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | It's been nice working with you :( | 16:45 |
| decede | Does anyone know where and when the summits are next year? | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | decede: i think mid-may is the first one.. in stlanta | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | atlanta | 16:46 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | We bought another Cloud company today, my openstack project is cancelled. | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: well that sucks | 16:46 |
| decede | ah ok and the later in the year one was Paris? | 16:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can still do your own openstack | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | decede: rumors say so | 16:46 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah, gonna be hard to stay sharp on it while learning another platform though | 16:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: i think the skills are important | 16:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats the other platform? | 16:47 |
| dolphm | decede: May 12-16 in atlanta | 16:47 |
| dolphm | decede: then paris, dates TBD | 16:47 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am, dolphm: cheers | 16:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 16:48 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I guess I can say, they did a press release. | 16:48 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | https://twitter.com/tier3 | 16:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you work for cl? | 16:49 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | mmhmm | 16:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool. i wondered what they were using for their cloud | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | its advertised here all the time | 16:49 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | well they bought Savvis, I work at Savvis HQ | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder how well that new cloud thing will work | 16:50 |
| jfarschman | Anyone know what nova setting you use to stop it from using all the disk? | 16:50 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah no idea but we're all full steam ahead on it | 16:50 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | always something new! | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: well, hopefully it works. i know plenty of companies who go full steam on things they have no clue about | 16:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: nothing says you can't run openstack on a box at home | 16:51 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah I'll hold out hope that they'll circle back and give openstack another shot, I never even finished my lab, much less start on the PoC | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: there was something i saw the other day saying that on average, openstack nerds make about $35k more than other cloud engineers | 16:52 |
| AndyMoore | i've created a network with a subnet, realised i've given teh wrong subnet so deleted and recreated with the same name - horizon seems to still be looking for the old uuid - how can i clear that from its cache ? | 16:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: here it is http://imgur.com/HFr3zGS | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | so keep them skills up! | 16:54 |
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| mrproper | Hey sam | 16:57 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: I figured it out. I got a hint from this: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/202196. Basically, all I had to do was this: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE | 16:57 |
| jfarschman | hmmm. larsbutler, seems like that should have been created automatically. | 16:58 |
| jfarschman | but great | 16:58 |
| jpich | AndyMoore: Horizon doesn't store data, it only shows what the other APIs are returning. You'll probably want to look into your Neutron data and make sure it's set up as you want | 16:58 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: yeah, I dunno | 16:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: all refreshed today? | 16:59 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: if so, it's possible it was not automatically set up because something else was misconfigured in a previous step | 16:59 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: do you have a similar rule in your environment? | 16:59 |
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| decede | CaptainTacoSauce: so Tier 3 are using an in house cloud system? | 17:00 |
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| AndyMoore | jpich you're quite correct - looks like it was an incorrect tenantid on a subnet | 17:00 |
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| jfarschman | larsbutler: not on my compute/network nodes. | 17:01 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: what about the controller? | 17:01 |
| jpich | AndyMoore: Cool, glad that's resolved | 17:01 |
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| jfarschman | larsbutler: well, no. No Masquerading at all | 17:02 |
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| jfarschman | exit | 17:02 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: interesting | 17:03 |
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| jfarschman | One difference, I have a special setting in DNSmasq that points my gateway to our hardware router and you are using an nova-network as you router, right? | 17:04 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: yes I think so | 17:05 |
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| larsbutler | I haven't done anything with dnsmasq | 17:05 |
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| jfarschman | dhcp-option=option:router,10.0.0.1 | 17:05 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: okay, noted | 17:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 17:11 |
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| larsbutler | jfarschman: well, it's all working now--I'm going to call it a night. have a good one! | 17:15 |
| larsbutler | and thanks | 17:15 |
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| jfarschman | you too. I'm not even to my Lunch time yet. | 17:15 |
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| decede | whats the command line equivelent of Horizons System Info->Network Agents? | 17:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | decede: one sec | 17:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | decede: neutron agent-list | 17:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think | 17:21 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am: cheers | 17:31 |
| decede | Sam-I-Am: does this mean youve setup horizon now? | 17:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | decede: i have it in devstack | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | which i somehow got working with neutron | 17:33 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: You didn't setup RDO already? ;) | 17:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: lol | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm still recovering from last night's configfest | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | and preparing for a meeting with a bunch of suits in an hour | 17:38 |
| mrproper | config-hangover | 17:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | after that i'm planning for rdo | 17:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you stay up until 4 and figure it all out? | 17:38 |
| mrproper | Haha no, I went to sleep after we signed off. I was exhausted. | 17:39 |
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| mrproper | I looked more this morning but nothing. I am pretty convinced the fact the vrouter's external interface is down is a huge problem here. | 17:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, it is | 17:39 |
| mrproper | Are there logs to see why it's donw? | 17:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, plenty | 17:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that was our next step from yesterday | 17:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | before we both pooped out | 17:40 |
| mrproper | I was looking through /var/log but didn't see anything really help | 17:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | should be several directories underneath /var/log for each service | 17:40 |
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| mrproper | I saw those. | 17:40 |
| mrproper | I was skimming through Neutron this morning. | 17:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus there's the openvswitch commands | 17:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | what i'd do is tail each neutron log while deploying a VM | 17:41 |
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| mrproper | You around tonight? | 17:41 |
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| mrproper | I'll be on after 8PM tonight, central time. | 17:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i think so | 17:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | got a busy day? | 17:42 |
| mrproper | I do. Plus, I don't have remote access to my house. | 17:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | ow | 17:43 |
| mrproper | I've been through about 3 routers in the past year so I got tired of setting up port forwarding. | 17:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | better fix that | 17:44 |
| mrproper | I need to. | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have a lab at work | 17:44 |
| mrproper | I'm really considering the ubiquiti router. | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing at home anymore | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | was tired of high electric bills and noise | 17:44 |
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| mrproper | They don't let me put anything on the network that isn't company asset. | 17:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | surprised y'all dont have a lab | 17:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | many resellers do | 17:45 |
| mrproper | We do, but I can't play in it as much as I'd like. | 17:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | mine is segmented from the company network... on its own internet link | 17:45 |
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| * mrproper can dream | 17:45 | |
| Sam-I-Am | thats... odd | 17:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | figured you would have more leeway there | 17:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | big company, right? | 17:46 |
| mrproper | I can't really play and break things there so much though. | 17:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the good news is you might be able to use my lab | 17:46 |
| mrproper | Yeah we'll be in touch on that at some point. | 17:47 |
| mrproper | I'm fine using my server for the time being. | 17:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | now i gotta figure out how to netboot centos | 17:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats always a fun adventure | 17:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | pxe in general | 17:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | time to get ready for the next meeting | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | hopefully i'll get enough time to install rdo | 17:50 |
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| mrproper | Have fun! | 17:50 |
| mrproper | I spent a ton of time working on that. | 17:51 |
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| momelod | can anyone point me in the right direction. my `nova list` is throwing http err 500: http://pastebin.com/QuMb5mvs | 19:12 |
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| dolphm | momelod: your nova logs should have more specific information about the failure | 19:16 |
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| momelod | dolphm: if i grep for thje request uuid in the logs there is only this single ling: nova-api.log:2013-11-19 14:09:28.493 ERROR nova.api.openstack [req-300d57d0-bd13-4176-8aed-478ee54f2e4f 01865de1a52e49d1ac5d272a53cdc994 0495c7816c1145248544417ae9d04b8e] Caught error: 'instance_type_memory_mb' | 19:20 |
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| dolphm | momelod: there's a couple google hits for that string, but i'm not familiar with it myself | 19:22 |
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| dolphm | momelod: are you grepping with context? | 19:22 |
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| momelod | context? | 19:23 |
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| dtx00ff | hello | 19:27 |
| dtx00ff | has anyone seen Port Security bindings not found for quantumclient? | 19:28 |
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| gmi | momelod: grep a few lines before and after the request, for example "grep -B5 -A5 req-300d57d0-bd13-4176-8aed-478ee54f2e4f /var/log/nova-api.log" | 19:35 |
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| badams | does anyone have any experience with automated openstack install methods for ubuntu? | 20:14 |
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| KaZeR | badams: puppet (or your favorite similar tool) | 20:18 |
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| EntropyWorks | so i'm anyone here know what running_deleted_instance_timeout actually does. "Number of seconds after being deleted when a running instance should be considered eligible for cleanup." Is it just cleaning up what is left on the disk after the time has expired? | 20:20 |
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| daMaestro | is there any way to disable the dd cleanup when an instance is destroyed? it puts a larger burden on storage then we'd like and we don't have multiple tenants | 20:21 |
| daMaestro | is it possible to set this for only one region or the like? | 20:21 |
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| mehdi | Does OpenStack have a similar concept to VMware's "cluster" terminology, IE a container type that is representative of a failure domain? If so, what is it referred to | 20:22 |
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| badams | kaZeR: thanks. kind of related: are there tools to automate the install of ubuntu itself, then puppet? | 20:23 |
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| KaZeR | you can use debian's preseeds | 20:24 |
| badams | hmm. research time. | 20:24 |
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| KaZeR_ | crap. badams : what was my last message? | 20:26 |
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| badams | KaZeR_: you told me about debian preseeding | 20:26 |
| KaZeR_ | ok | 20:27 |
| KaZeR_ | (not as good as rh's kickstarts, but works) | 20:27 |
| KaZeR_ | i might have a preseed somewhere. are you familiar with PXE ? | 20:27 |
| badams | i am not but i can be | 20:27 |
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| KaZeR_ | ok. you will need that to use preseeds ( or kickstart, or any good provisioning automation ) | 20:28 |
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| mariusp | Hello, anyone know if there is any development work being done (or even considered) on getting smartos working with openstack? | 21:02 |
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| desai | mariusp: there was some work done a while ago; iirc they had the kvm pieces working, but hadn't gotten the networking layer ported over | 21:15 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_existing_external_network <-- Do you think this is what I need? | 22:04 |
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| jblack | I'm reading through http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/bk-admin-guide-cloud-latest.pdf.... | 22:44 |
| jblack | Lot of stuff to take in | 22:45 |
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| jblack | I'm a little bit confused about nova/policy.json | 22:46 |
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| jblack | It provides and example of granting permission for various compute services like attacing a volume, and assocaitinig it with a role, such as compute-user (which in turn is defined earlier). | 22:47 |
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| jblack | It says that this these permissions are bestowed for any given tenant. | 22:47 |
| jblack | Does this work as a teplate of sorts, and at some other place permissions are set for individual tenants? | 22:48 |
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| thumpba | whats the easiest way to setup openstack on ubunu 12.04lts | 23:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | moo. | 23:25 |
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| jblack | thumpba: There's a ten minute script. | 23:26 |
| jblack | thumpba: http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html | 23:26 |
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| thumpba | thanks jblack: do you know if one if coming for havana? or is it easier to just go with grizzly and upgrade from there? | 23:31 |
| jblack | I have no idea. I'm a complete noob | 23:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | devstack works | 23:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | by default it runs head, but you can tell it havana | 23:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're just looking for a quick proof-of-concept, it works | 23:32 |
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| thumpba | Sam-I-Am: what about for production? | 23:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | good question. i really wouldn't do an 'all in one' for production since you dont really get to understand whats happening underneath | 23:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack tends to break in strange ways | 23:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so my suggestion would be try stackgeek/devstack/rdo first to get an idea how it all should look | 23:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | then go install it manually | 23:36 |
| thumpba | so for production you'd go manual | 23:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 23:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | everyone's environment is different | 23:36 |
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| KaZeR | for production i'd go industrial using a configuration management tool :) | 23:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | it'll take you a while to go from zero to something you're confident enough to use in production | 23:36 |
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| thumpba | tried rod and it gave me a missing python-nova dependency error and i could get past that on a fresh centos6.5 install | 23:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm about to try rdo here in a bit since a lot of people are using it | 23:37 |
| thumpba | i have puppet and foreman already running in our environment...havent seen a guide for getting it going through either of those | 23:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | my first environment was devstack | 23:37 |
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| KaZeR | thumpba: i don't think you need a guide to setup puppet + openstack if you know puppet. basically, package foo, file bar, service baz.. it's more about figuring out what to put in the config files :) | 23:39 |
| thumpba | KaZeR: thats exactly where I'm at...no clue what to put in the config files | 23:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thumpba: there's a centos 6.5? | 23:40 |
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| Mongo2 | hi, the virtio-win-0.1-65.iso drivers from fedora are broken on win2k8r2 and will bluescreen on a rescan of the disks, there is a fix in -68 but I can't find any signed drivers with that revision, does anyone in here know if they exist yet? | 23:41 |
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