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| Megadawg | Attending the Boston stacker meet up. Anyone else here in this channel? | 00:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm in denver heh | 00:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | so.. | 00:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not many people in the meet up group here | 00:14 |
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| Superdawg | probably about 30+ of us here just looking around | 00:16 |
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| Superdawg | ubuntu is presenting for us right now | 00:17 |
| Superdawg | (canonical) | 00:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool | 00:18 |
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| daMaestro | Sam-I-Am, where is the meetup tonight? | 00:22 |
| daMaestro | ah, it's not tonight in denver | 00:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think denver needs some love | 00:24 |
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| daMaestro | i'm just glad we are regularly meeting, even if it's just to drink beer | 00:25 |
| daMaestro | though last meeting there was no beer | 00:25 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Ready to rock? | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 02:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess who installed rdo? | 02:25 |
| mrproper | ^^^^^ This guy! | 02:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i figured out whats wrong | 02:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it is a system thing | 02:26 |
| mrproper | Oh? | 02:26 |
| mrproper | How did you figure it out? | 02:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i poked around at the underlying goodness | 02:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | the short story... br-ex was not 'bonded' to eth0 | 02:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | which basically breaks external connectivity from vms | 02:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its an openvswitch thing | 02:27 |
| mrproper | Funny you say that. | 02:27 |
| mrproper | I saw a message board post about it and did that, but it didn't fix my problem. | 02:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you had to move your 'public' ip to br-ex right? | 02:28 |
| mrproper | Ohh...no. | 02:29 |
| mrproper | I had about 10 minutes to try. | 02:29 |
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| mrproper | Oh WTF, the VM died. | 02:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | nice | 02:30 |
| mrproper | Does the br-ex get an IP? | 02:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, freenode is being stupid so bear with me if i have to reconnect | 02:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, it needs the ip that used to be on eth0 | 02:30 |
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| mrproper | I had some WEIRD problems earlier today. This morning it was very very very slow and the CPU was pegged at like...14 in top. | 02:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | the command you probably ran was ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex eth0 | 02:30 |
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| mrproper | Yeah I think so. | 02:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | one sec, prepping to try making an instance | 02:32 |
| mrproper | Am I able to make my br-ex have the IP address of my home network or does it need to be a separate network? | 02:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | once i did the br-ex thing, i could ping the 'outside' interfaces of that vrouter | 02:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | and the vrouter could ping the outside world from within its netns | 02:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it needs to have the ip that your machine used to have on eth0 | 02:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, a real ip that you can ssh to from your home network | 02:33 |
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| mrproper | Oh okay | 02:34 |
| mrproper | And do I pull the eth0 IP address? | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah it should not have an ip | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | ip addr del <ip> dev eth0 | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres no way to do it with ifconfig | 02:35 |
| mrproper | And I just pull the line from the ifcfg-eth0 script? | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | and ip addr add <ip> dev br-ex ... put that ip back | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets not worry about the scripts yet | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll just do this while its running, then solidify it later | 02:36 |
| mrproper | YEAH OKAY | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was rudely reminded how much redhat network scripts suck | 02:36 |
| mrproper | I don't love them. | 02:36 |
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| mrproper | Damn | 02:37 |
| mrproper | That killed SSH connectivity | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | i noticed that packstack figured out my hardware is ancient and disabled hardware vm-in-vm support in nova.conf for me | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, you'll need to be at the vmware console :) | 02:37 |
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| mrproper | I'm having problems adding it | 02:39 |
| mrproper | Actually it is now | 02:39 |
| mrproper | It just had an error that file exists | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats pleasant, my load avg is 6 | 02:39 |
| mrproper | Wow | 02:39 |
| mrproper | Do I need to restart openstack or anything? | 02:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | uh, no | 02:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont think so | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hold a sec, let me kick my system | 02:40 |
| mrproper | I can't ping that address. | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the one you assigned to br-ex? | 02:41 |
| mrproper | Yeah | 02:41 |
| mrproper | Oh that's why | 02:41 |
| mrproper | Bad mask and whatnot :) | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: at least i pre-fooded up today... donuts this morning and wings for lunch. i realized my over-30 stomach can't do that anymore. | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i'm not hungry :) | 02:41 |
| mrproper | Haha | 02:41 |
| mrproper | I just turned 31, I get it | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i might find a piece of fruit or something later | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | or just chug a bottle of dawn soap and shake myself | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, so the instance launched and can see the outside world | 02:43 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Annoying...the ip addr add command doesn't automatically set the broadcast based on the CIDR notation | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, what do you know | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | i should fix that | 02:45 |
| linea | Is swift support expiring of all objects inside a container | 02:45 |
| notmyname | linea: no. the expiring objects feature is a per-object thing | 02:46 |
| mrproper | Something isn't right. | 02:46 |
| mrproper | My host can't ping the VMware hypervisor its in | 02:46 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I did make a change to one of the configuration files. I wonder if that's breaking? | 02:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which one? | 02:47 |
| mrproper | /etc/neutron/plugin.ini | 02:47 |
| mrproper | network_vlan_ranges = physnet1 bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex | 02:47 |
| linea | notmyname : Thats so sad so if there is so many objects i want to delete in a particular time say 1 month or 7 days its a pain :D | 02:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: oh dear... what was it before? | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | i didnt touch any of those things | 02:48 |
| mrproper | The lines were commented. | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | actually so far i havent touched any openstack config files | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just fixed the openvswitch | 02:48 |
| linea | notmyname : any upcoming versions supports this in future? | 02:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: so yeah, my system all works now including floating ips | 02:49 |
| mrproper | Ugh no | 02:49 |
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| mrproper | Still not working. | 02:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... | 02:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | can you share your desktop? | 02:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | kind of need to see whats going on | 02:50 |
| mrproper | *sigh* | 02:51 |
| mrproper | I think I may see? | 02:51 |
| mrproper | Got it | 02:51 |
| mrproper | It deleted the br-ex eth0 mapping | 02:51 |
| notmyname | linea: there aren't any plans as far as I know to change the way expiring objects work. your alternative is to essentially poll the objects in the container to see when they need to be deleted | 02:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: ahhh | 02:51 |
| mrproper | Do I need to modify anything to make it stay resident? | 02:51 |
| mrproper | wr me | 02:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | the ovs stuff should write to its database and come back on boot | 02:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | "should" | 02:52 |
| mrproper | Okay | 02:52 |
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| mrproper | Still not working though | 02:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 02:53 |
| mrproper | Oh wait... | 02:53 |
| mrproper | Didn't I need to assign public to the br-ex? | 02:53 |
| mrproper | I set the IPs, but is there more to it? | 02:54 |
| mrproper | Meh shouldn't be. | 02:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so, eth0 has no ip. br-ex has the ip that used to be on eth0. | 02:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | and you bound br-ex to eth0 in ovs-vsctl | 02:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | at that point you should be able to ping the IP you set from within the console | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | keep in mind that also blew your default route away | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you'll have to add that back | 02:55 |
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| mrproper | Is that on the router or is that on the host? | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | the host, when you changed those IPs around, lost its routes | 02:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | although if your mac is on the same network, it should see the host | 02:57 |
| mrproper | And it does work. | 02:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | route -n on the rdo host | 02:57 |
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| mrproper | So...no default route. | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you can do 'route add default gw <whatever your cisco box is>' | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | that will get internet connectivity back, or should | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll find out | 02:58 |
| mrproper | From RDO I can get to the Internet | 02:58 |
| mrproper | But... | 02:58 |
| mrproper | It can't ping any of the internals | 02:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, we have to go fix that stuff | 02:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | apparently thats somehow broken | 02:59 |
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| mrproper | 15.200 is still down for some reason | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know why | 03:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | i also figured out how to do 95% of this via horizon | 03:00 |
| mrproper | BTW,does audio go over join.me | 03:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont hear anything | 03:01 |
| mrproper | If so...enjoy Ghost BC! | 03:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | ghost bc? | 03:01 |
| mrproper | The band. | 03:01 |
| mrproper | I just turned on some music | 03:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, dont hear anything | 03:02 |
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| mrproper | Okay good | 03:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have some weird 80s playing | 03:02 |
| mrproper | What you got? | 03:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think this works best if we create the external network as the 'admin' tenant and then the internal network as the 'demo' tenant | 03:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | or whatever your non-admin tenant is | 03:03 |
| mrproper | Is the admin tenant an overarching tenant? | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | it seems that way | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least in rdo | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | devstack was kind of the same way | 03:04 |
| mrproper | I'll delete the ports, subnets, and networks associated with the external | 03:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i'd leave your private network as-is... and we'll rebuild the external | 03:04 |
| mrproper | Would .200 .201 be considered internal or external since I think those are floating IPs | 03:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | external | 03:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | they're not on that 10.x.x.x network | 03:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | surprisingly this stuff seems to work well from horizon | 03:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | this... deleting stuff | 03:06 |
| mrproper | Hehe yeah it does. | 03:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would like to know why packstack defaults to 172.24.4/28 | 03:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | or, 4.224/28 | 03:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and then doesnt do the br-ex goodness | 03:06 |
| mrproper | It seems like a bug. | 03:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oversight... i bet neutron is pretty new | 03:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and they havent quite made everything work | 03:07 |
| mrproper | It ain't letting me delete stuff ;) | 03:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | although so far i'm impressed with rdo, aside from having to use rh | 03:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | clear the gw first | 03:08 |
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| mrproper | Hmmmmmmm | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we did everything as the 'you' tenant yesterday | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | so delete from there | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | kill that port first | 03:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | back on the router | 03:09 |
| mrproper | I'm not sure where to delete the port | 03:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | where you just were i think | 03:09 |
| mrproper | Here? | 03:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:09 |
| mrproper | The only interface is the internal one. | 03:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats fine. | 03:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | still have floating ips? | 03:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | list | 03:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no switches | 03:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | and hopefully you're the 'user' tenant | 03:11 |
| mrproper | Yeah I'm the regular tenant | 03:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | do floatingip-list | 03:12 |
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| mrproper | Interesting I couldn't delete it from Horizon | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | the floating ip? | 03:13 |
| mrproper | Yeah | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats because its somewhere else... access&security tab | 03:13 |
| mrproper | Oh | 03:13 |
| mrproper | I see. | 03:13 |
| mrproper | Anyways...now recreate it in the admin tenant you said? | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, and we'll try it in horizon | 03:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | we only create certain things | 03:14 |
| mrproper | Network with a subnet I assume, yes? | 03:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | yup | 03:14 |
| mrproper | No router right? | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope | 03:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | so all you should see in the diagram is that network | 03:15 |
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| mrproper | This doesn't work. | 03:15 |
| mrproper | It's not listing the admin tenant items in here. | 03:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | it wont, we need to be the admin tenant | 03:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | now click on that public thing | 03:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you see any ports? | 03:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok.. | 03:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | now we go into the user tenant | 03:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so whats the topo? | 03:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | should delete that router and instance | 03:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok.. | 03:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | so under networks what do you see? | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, time to make a router | 03:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmmmmm it doesnt know your public network is external | 03:22 |
| mrproper | It doesn't show my public network in this tenant period | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | we need to fix that | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | it will once it knows its external | 03:22 |
| mrproper | Oh...an external is global? | 03:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | under the admin tab (not user) select the network | 03:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | edit it, choose 'external' | 03:23 |
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| mrproper | Boom | 03:24 |
| mrproper | Like this? | 03:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | boom shaka laka | 03:25 |
| mrproper | NBA Jam! | 03:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | current tune is actually information society / whats on your mind | 03:25 |
| mrproper | Ugh, that public one is still down | 03:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | click on public | 03:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, private | 03:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | go to routers | 03:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | let me see the interfaces | 03:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the only interface should be the inside one | 03:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think there's a turd from prior work there | 03:28 |
| mrproper | I pulled the interface by clearing gateway | 03:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:29 |
| mrproper | Is yours setup with the admin as the one which owns the external network | 03:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so as the admin tenant, lets look at the network | 03:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | should only be the public network | 03:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i just keep two different windows open admin/othertenant | 03:31 |
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| mrproper | What does shared indicate? | 03:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'll need to use private browsing due to cookie crap | 03:31 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: | 03:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | one sec... | 03:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | under project/admin -> networks | 03:32 |
| mrproper | I moved it to shared btw | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont need to do that | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | there should be more stuff under 'actions' there | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure if thats a side effect of shared | 03:33 |
| mrproper | What do you see in Edit Network | 03:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | under project/admin or admin tab? | 03:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok thats fine now | 03:34 |
| mrproper | Project/admin | 03:34 |
| mrproper | Ok | 03:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i have ports underneath that | 03:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | but they were created by the router in the other tenant | 03:34 |
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| mrproper | Oh | 03:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | so lets go back there | 03:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | she sells sanctuary | 03:35 |
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| mrproper | You know what's interesting? Chrome and Safari render the colors slightly different. | 03:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | huh, havent noticed | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just use chrome | 03:36 |
| mrproper | I'm moving away from Google services slowly. | 03:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | one probably has color correction and the other doesnt | 03:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | my work machine is windows, so i cant use safari | 03:36 |
| mrproper | Anyways...what's missing? | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | and firefox is a pig | 03:37 |
| mrproper | Yeah I know. I like how safari integrates with ios. | 03:37 |
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| mrproper | I am thinking of moving to firefox anyways | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | blech | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | better install 32 gigs of ram | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | so it can use all of it after a few days | 03:37 |
| mrproper | I close my browsers frequently | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets go check the router again | 03:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets set its gateway | 03:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | now back over on project/admin ... public network | 03:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | we should see a port | 03:38 |
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| mrproper | Yup | 03:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it says my crap is down too | 03:39 |
| mrproper | But your system works huh? | 03:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah... so | 03:39 |
| mrproper | What about in devstack? | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets push on | 03:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dunno, i'd have to go look | 03:40 |
| mrproper | Anyways | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | so we should hit the console for your host | 03:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | check out whats in the netns | 03:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | try pinging that 200 or whatever | 03:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like progress to me | 03:41 |
| mrproper | Yeah it is | 03:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | so under access&security under your tenant, try to create a floatingip | 03:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | good, now lets fire up a cirros instance... nothing special | 03:42 |
| mrproper | Now...I know we've been through this, but I'm not clear the difference between the allocated range and the floating IP | 03:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | wait, what? | 03:42 |
| mrproper | We have those allocated ranges in the subnets. | 03:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, when you generate a floatingip, it uses that range | 03:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, it uses an ip from that range | 03:42 |
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| mrproper | That | 03:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | the lowest ip is the router's ip, 200 | 03:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | the next one will be the first floatingip | 03:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you add another floater, it will be 202 | 03:43 |
| mrproper | Should I have an allocation range in the external network? | 03:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you made one | 03:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | in the public network, which is external | 03:43 |
| mrproper | I'll look into how they overlap and compliment later. instance now? | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, instance | 03:44 |
| ammini | Are you guys doing a step-by-step workshop? | 03:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | lets go through these details before you launch | 03:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | ammini: pretty much | 03:45 |
| ammini | Nice! | 03:45 |
| * ammini watches in the bg | 03:45 | |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: you dont need a password there | 03:45 |
| mrproper | Oh okay | 03:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | networking is private | 03:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing post-creation | 03:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ammini: mrproper is sharing his screen | 03:45 |
| mrproper | Those make sense. | 03:45 |
| mrproper | Yeah your'e missing a lot of context :) | 03:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're getting the metadata | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | so let the instance launch... could be a while :/ | 03:46 |
| ammini | No worries. I'd follow up from here, are you using Havanna/Grizzly? | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | took my poor crap like 3 minutes to launch | 03:46 |
| mrproper | Havanna | 03:46 |
| mrproper | It took that long last time | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | havana on rdo in this case | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i also have a couple of manual installs plus devstck | 03:46 |
| ammini | RHEL/Fedora? | 03:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | my rdo is on scientific 6.4 | 03:47 |
| ammini | Wee! | 03:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | supposedly works with rhel with some tweaks | 03:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | better on centos/sci | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | havent tried fedora | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: grab a snickers | 03:47 |
| mrproper | I'm on a diet. Need to go for grapes instead. | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | but they dont satisfy | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Yeah I know :/ | 03:48 |
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| ammini | While the instance boots up, you're trying an all-in-one ? | 03:48 |
| mrproper | I told people I was on a diet and people laughed since I'm already pretty skinny. Pants just don't fit as well. | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Yes | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm staring at a pile of those tiny oranges, but they're hard to eat and type | 03:48 |
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| mrproper | I love those oranges though | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | fruit is so not filling tho | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Are they the easy peel ones? | 03:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:48 |
| mrproper | Love em | 03:48 |
| mrproper | I could eat four of those | 03:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ammini: yeah, apparently theres some steps missing from the rdo deployment to make all-in-one with neutron work, but i figured it out earlier | 03:49 |
| mrproper | I heard a quote the other day. "I compare apples and oranges all the time. And oranges win" | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll probably eat some later | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | apples are boring and pears are gritty | 03:49 |
| mrproper | Boo yah | 03:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | not many other winter fruits here | 03:49 |
| ammini | Sam-I-Am: Strange, I'd it working straight forward in RHEL6U4. | 03:50 |
| mrproper | Is there an RDO mailing list? | 03:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | probably | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's some rdo nerds in here | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | ammini: did it bond br-ex to your real eth interface in ovs? | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | that was the main problem here | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | br-ex was just flapping in the wind | 03:50 |
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| ammini | Sam-I-Am: Ah, that I normally due manually. If you want you'd put in answer file. | 03:51 |
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| mrproper | IT WORKS!!! | 03:51 |
| ammini | Sam-I-Am: And if your real eth interface is the management/external, then it'd get stuck in the middle. | 03:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | ammini: yeah thats the sketchy part | 03:51 |
| ammini | s/due/do | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should be mentioned under the regular instructions tho | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | the neutron stuff skips over it | 03:52 |
| ammini | Right. | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | in here: http://openstack.redhat.com/Floating_IP_range | 03:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: woohoo! | 03:52 |
| ammini | Did you try ceilometer/heat in Havanna? I've experience with Grizzly only. | 03:52 |
| mrproper | That's going to be a next step for me. | 03:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | go to instance, add floating ip | 03:53 |
| mrproper | Ha | 03:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or use the 'associate' option there | 03:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ssh as cirros@ | 03:53 |
| mrproper | ^5 | 03:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | yay | 03:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ammini: i havent gotten that far yet. i seem to spend most of my life in neutron | 03:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | mostly because thats what my main project involves | 03:54 |
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| ammini | Sam-I-Am: Excellent. I've some questions for you after this session ;) | 03:54 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am starting to understand how these different components link together. | 03:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: sure, just boot me like a cheap whore :) | 03:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: its not too bad. the naming is a bit.. odd. | 03:55 |
| mrproper | I'll call you back, I promise! | 03:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | now you can go read that networking-in-too-much-detail bit and try the commands on your system | 03:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | and see whats happening under the sheets | 03:56 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Okay. Lets talk a little bit about the different IP address ranges because that still confuses me. What's the purpose of the associated allocation pool? What are they allocated to? | 03:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i've been meaning to ask, do you build linux kernels from source? | 03:57 |
| mrproper | No. Well, I did about 15 years ago. | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | your nick... 'make mrproper' | 03:57 |
| mrproper | Bingo | 03:57 |
| mrproper | That's where I got it. | 03:57 |
| mrproper | Do you remember Ximian at all? | 03:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nerd | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, dear... | 03:57 |
| mrproper | I worked there for a few years and then we were bought by Novell. I selected the nickname when I started working with them. | 03:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm going to have nightmares tonight | 03:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | my nick dates back to 93ish... been on irc 20 years now. scary. | 03:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i thought itd be dead long ago | 03:58 |
| mrproper | I only recently reclaimed my nick on free node. I'm very excited about that! | 03:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | but alas, here we are... and anything i get involved in seems to have an irc channel | 03:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | so here's the network stuff... | 03:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | when you create a subnet, the allocation range is the range in which IPs will be allocated to floatingips or VMs | 03:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | it allows you to make sure openstack doesnt 'steal' other ips from that subnet that other things may be using | 03:59 |
| mrproper | So the allocation range must overlap with the floating IP list? | 04:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | in other words, if you didnt put the allocation range on 192.168.15/24, it might steal 17 or 19 | 04:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | or whatever those were that belong to your boxen | 04:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | the floating ip 'create' button selects IPs from the allocation range | 04:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | until it runs out | 04:00 |
| mrproper | Oh it does. | 04:00 |
| mrproper | Makes sense. | 04:01 |
| mrproper | So they very much do compliment each other. | 04:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | for your VMs on the internal network, the allocation range is essentially the dhcp subnet range | 04:01 |
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| mrproper | That part makes sense. | 04:02 |
| mrproper | It's how the external IP allocation range and floating IP worked together which confused me. But they're kind of one in the same. | 04:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. its just a list of valid ips that things within neutron can use for one thing or another | 04:02 |
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| ammini | Ideally the floating ip range should be given by the network team. | 04:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | for example, the router's IP sucked the first one up... .299 | 04:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, .200 | 04:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | your first floater was 201 | 04:03 |
| mrproper | But .200 is the floater for the internal interface on the router? | 04:03 |
| mrproper | How is this going to work with IPv6 considering that doesn't have as much of a concept of NAT. | 04:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i uh... *spontaneously reboots* | 04:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | no idea... its on my bucket list | 04:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | my guess is it just firewalls stuff | 04:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | firewall and routing vs. natting | 04:04 |
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| mrproper | Would it still need the floating IP in v6 then since it would be doing full routing and have visibility? | 04:05 |
| mrproper | Theoretically at least. | 04:05 |
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| mrproper | But...that requires additional routing | 04:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: when you created the 'gateway' port on the router, it took 200 from the allocation pool | 04:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i need to read about 6 support | 04:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | my entire lab is 6'd | 04:06 |
| mrproper | I'm going to implement 6 one day at my house but my ISP doesn't support it so I would be translating anyways | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | and my house | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've used hurrican electric's tunnels for 10 years now | 04:07 |
| mrproper | Have you seen much performance degradation? | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | obviously not as fast as native, but not bad. things like facebook, twitter, and plenty of other pages use it | 04:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends | 04:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | some things yes, some things no | 04:08 |
| mrproper | Now...lets try Fedora, see if that comes up. | 04:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | being a tunnel it can't take advantage of sites closer to me on v4 and if there's any sort of funky mss stuff going on | 04:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | more fragmentation than i'd like to see | 04:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think i'm ircing on 6 now | 04:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | kinda weird i've been using 6 for 10 years too... time flies. | 04:09 |
| mrproper | Wow | 04:10 |
| mrproper | Yeah I haven't touched 6 much | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | had a prod deployment at the isp i worked for | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | including 6 multicast | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahhh, bgp, how i miss you | 04:10 |
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| mrproper | Said no one ever | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i used to think all that shit including mpls was complex until i came across openstack lol | 04:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have several mock service providers in my lab all running bgp and mpls | 04:11 |
| mrproper | I need to learn MPLS. I'm finding not knowing MPLS hurts my ability to understand SDN | 04:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | vlls, vpls, and l3vpns abound | 04:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | mpls plays into sdn when you need to build l3vpns between the same tenant at multiple DCs | 04:11 |
| mrproper | What gear in your lab is running MPLS? | 04:11 |
| mrproper | I have a bunch of stuff here. | 04:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | brocade and juniper | 04:11 |
| mrproper | I have 4 Cisco routers. | 04:12 |
| mrproper | 3 of which I can play with. Plus a few switches. | 04:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have 8 SPs with a handful of 'customers' | 04:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | 8 ASs at least | 04:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats cool is you can spin up a 'customer' VM and traceroute all the way through the SPs to the internet | 04:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | and i have reverse DNS tell you what physical port your packet traversed | 04:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | so when people come to the lab they can really see how bgp works | 04:13 |
| mrproper | That's slick | 04:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | e.g., set med here, local pref here... oh, packet goes another way | 04:13 |
| mrproper | I need to setup that stuff sometime. How many routers? | 04:13 |
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| * ammini has little knowledge with Networking outside linux | 04:14 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i have 10 routers overall | 04:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats neat is you can do all this in VMs too | 04:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i build a lab-in-a-box a few years ago | 04:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 8 openbsd VMs with bgp and ospf | 04:14 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: When I get a full constant OpenStack setup I'll probably do that. | 04:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | ammini: with neutron, linux networking knowledge is good | 04:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its kind of hoaky which is why i'm looking forward to integrating neutron with sdn-enabled hardware | 04:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is the ultimate goal of my project | 04:15 |
| ammini | Sam-I-Am: Yeah - feeling confident after tyring quantum/neutron. But things like MPLS/BGP and the rest would give a better understanding when you learn SDN. | 04:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: so you dont like having a life? lol | 04:15 |
| mrproper | Hehe I never had much of one. | 04:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | touche | 04:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | like sitting here on a friday night goofing with openstack | 04:16 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I want to get my OpenStack working, integrate with SDN gear, and then do orchestration and metering | 04:16 |
| * Sam-I-Am spawns more liver instances | 04:16 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | i need to do those orch and metering bits | 04:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | i guess rdo got me into horizon | 04:17 |
| mrproper | Horizon isn't too bad. | 04:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | next stop... uh... horizon on my 'real' installs | 04:17 |
| mrproper | Do you understand how some of the information between the Admin and the Project views are different? | 04:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe cinder | 04:17 |
| mrproper | Like...Networking. Why would I view it once place or another? | 04:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | people seem to be having problems with cinder in here | 04:17 |
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| mrproper | You have block storage available? | 04:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think the admin tab lets you get an overall picture | 04:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and do things like administratively up or down parts of the network | 04:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | among other stuff | 04:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i still need to goof off in horizon a bit | 04:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: cinder will make block storage out of linux VGs | 04:19 |
| mrproper | VG? | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | volume group | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | lvm thing | 04:19 |
| mrproper | Oh | 04:19 |
| mrproper | I haven't dealt with LVM. Last time I did much Linux stuff was before LVM was all that popular. | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | its not bad | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | just name the vg cinder-volumes or something like that and cinder slurps it up | 04:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | cinder will also talk to iscsi stuff | 04:20 |
| mrproper | I have no NAS to p lay with at my house | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | so if you have any box that shares iscsi luns | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | build a linux box, put an lvm on it, share via open-iscsi | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | or whatever iscsi daemon thingy | 04:20 |
| ammini | You can use other providers like Red Hat Storage(gluster) or Ceph as well. | 04:21 |
| mrproper | I do have a separate server, not virtualized, which I use for home stuff. | 04:21 |
| mrproper | Or I can create a new instance here and offer up via that | 04:21 |
| ammini | Or normal NFS | 04:21 |
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| mrproper | Yeah that too. Easy enough. | 04:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i had to explain openstack to c-levels today | 04:21 |
| mrproper | Yeah how did that go? | 04:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | it was... frustrating | 04:22 |
| mrproper | Why is that? | 04:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | my company is like a big ship without a rudder sometimes | 04:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they want to do stuff before everyone else, but when it comes down investing money, all bets are off | 04:23 |
| mrproper | You can't get both | 04:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no shit | 04:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bottom line trumps long-term investment | 04:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | typical corp garbage | 04:24 |
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| mrproper | Of course | 04:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is why i think i need to move from a sales-oriented company to one that actually makes a product | 04:25 |
| mrproper | It'll happen | 04:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so are you going to try installing rdo again and getting it to work as close to 'out of the box' as possible? | 04:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | or try installing from scratch | 04:26 |
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| mrproper | I'm going to fuck with this install a bit more then setup another install of RDO doing the same thing but without all that work. | 04:26 |
| mrproper | Then a scratch build | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | scratch is a good learning experience | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | rdo took me about 2 hours including the scientific install | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | its pretty slick | 04:26 |
| mrproper | Yes it is | 04:26 |
| mrproper | I was very impressed with it, despite the bugs | 04:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | curious to see how it handles additional compute nodes | 04:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the only real bug was the ovs br-ex deal | 04:27 |
| mrproper | Yeah it was | 04:27 |
| mrproper | I know we had problems last time with Fedora, so lets see | 04:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | and changing their default public network | 04:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | which i think you can set before your next install using the 'answers' file | 04:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | still have to dink with br-ex | 04:28 |
| mrproper | Fedora 19 takes forever to download, still saving | 04:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's no netboot iso? | 04:28 |
| mrproper | I also want to setup the auth stuff | 04:28 |
| mrproper | I pulled the QCOW2 setup they | 04:28 |
| mrproper | "recommended" | 04:28 |
| mrproper | Starting to reconsider | 04:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to figure out how to net boot centos. i gave up today in light of time and just mounted the iso in vmware | 04:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | try the ubuntu cloud image | 04:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | it worked for me | 04:29 |
| mrproper | What is that? | 04:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | ubuntu designed for openstack instances | 04:29 |
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| ammini | Is that a VMDK? | 04:29 |
| mrproper | Oh okay | 04:29 |
| * ammini checks | 04:29 | |
| mrproper | I also want to setup "burst to cloud' | 04:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think its a qcow or whatever still | 04:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cows are trendy | 04:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: oh, dont forget to change your network scripts | 04:30 |
| mrproper | Shit good call | 04:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'll need to set eth0 to 'up' state without an ip | 04:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont remember how to do that on rh | 04:31 |
| mrproper | What is the command to do that in the script? | 04:31 |
| mrproper | Yeah okay, I'll google | 04:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | google! | 04:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | i much prefer the debian-style network stuffs | 04:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | now linux just needs to ditch iptables for pf and it'd rock | 04:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | but now they've gone on to something else | 04:31 |
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| mrproper | https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration | 04:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, ez | 04:33 |
| mrproper | Shit that's debian | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | in general rhel-like distros make me want to pull my hair out | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | so rhel/cent/sci | 04:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i liked when ubuntu came out and fixed a lot of debian issues, but then i hated it after becoming an openldap package maintainer and fighting a critical bug which took something like 3 years for them to actually fix | 04:35 |
| mrproper | I don't like Ubuntu much anymore | 04:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | they replaced openssl with gnutls due to 'freeness' and gnutls is a steaming pile of shit | 04:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: openstack seems to prefer ubuntu | 04:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i went back to it for my openstack stuff and its ok | 04:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i really dont like upstart | 04:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i can't sequence when things start | 04:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you watch openstack closely, you'll see many of the lighter-weight daemons griping about other crap not working. luckily they self-correct. | 04:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | most everything starts before rabbitmq | 04:37 |
| mrproper | I am so confused about this network script | 04:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bleh @ parental tech support | 04:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | what about it? | 04:39 |
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| mrproper | How to get it to not assign an IP | 04:40 |
| mrproper | But come up | 04:40 |
| mrproper | I'm thinking possibly just delete the address line | 04:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think you can just do 'onboot=yes' | 04:40 |
| ammini | ONBOOT=yes , then start network service | 04:40 |
| ammini | Or ifup ethX | 04:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and bootproto=none | 04:41 |
| ammini | Obviously. | 04:41 |
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| mrproper | Okay | 04:42 |
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| mrproper | I just couldn't find confirmation of that | 04:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | magic | 04:42 |
| mrproper | Promisc? | 04:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | i didnt bother with promisc on mine | 04:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seemed to work fine without it | 04:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont know why, blame magic | 04:43 |
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| mrproper | Want to bet this breaks everything? ;) | 04:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you think i make money? | 04:44 |
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| mrproper | Ha | 04:44 |
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| mrproper | Good point | 04:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll bet you an orange | 04:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have a trebuchet that should make chicago :) | 04:44 |
| mrproper | On the br-ex do I need a HWADDR or no? | 04:45 |
| mrproper | I don't think it ever did. | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd say no... | 04:45 |
| Chicago | everybody be callin my name - with nothin to say | 04:45 |
| mrproper | Lets give this a try | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think thats kind of how the network scripts match interfaces | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | that or uuidblehhh | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | Chicago: lol | 04:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | how about them cubs? | 04:46 |
| ammini | Sam-I-Am: Is the br-int bridge required for non ovs plugins? Like Nicira/Cisco ? | 04:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ammini: i dont know | 04:46 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I just sent you the config? Am I missing anything? | 04:46 |
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| * ammini understands br-int is there in OVS support Security Groups | 04:47 | |
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| Chicago | Sam-I-Am, we like to say "There's always next year." | 04:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i thought the security groups happen in the qbr* interfaces | 04:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | Chicago: lol | 04:48 |
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| ammini | Sam-I-Am: I remember reading somewhere, as the iptables rules cannot be directly applied in OVS, br-int exists (need to read more ) | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | baseball needs to adopt the 'socialism' from football | 04:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tired of seeing the same half-dozen good teams every year | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | football really shakes it up | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | ammini: http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking_in_too_much_detail | 04:49 |
| mrproper | That's correct | 04:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | ammini: i'd advise drinking before that :) | 04:50 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Sooooo do I want to restart the networking services and break it now or later? | 04:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the good news is... you know what it needs to look like | 04:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | and ovs shouldnt lose its config | 04:51 |
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| mrproper | Yeah. I'll just lose my connection to the switch | 04:51 |
| mrproper | Fedora is giving me an error again | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need dissect rdo a bit to see how it makes all of this work on one interface | 04:52 |
| mrproper | Just like when I first tried it | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | what error? | 04:52 |
| ammini | I believe you'd do both in one go , ovs-vsctl add-port <br> <interface> ; service network restart | 04:52 |
| mrproper | Status: Error :) | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i bet its something to do with volume size | 04:53 |
| mrproper | I didn't specify a volume, but good point. | 04:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | the tiny flavor is too tiny | 04:53 |
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| mrproper | Even mine, which was ridiculous | 04:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats what she said | 04:54 |
| mrproper | Bingo | 04:54 |
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| Chicago | Sam-I-Am, Are you a Racker? | 04:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | racker? like rackspace? | 04:55 |
| mrproper | I moved up to the Small flavor and that still errored with Fedora | 04:55 |
| Chicago | yeah | 04:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | no | 04:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | would be fun to work there, but texas... ewww. | 04:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | almost joined their zenoss team a few years ago | 04:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | back when i was immersed in zenoos | 04:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | zenoss | 04:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: speaking of zenoss, i noticed rdo comes with naggy-os... maybe reads from ceilometer? | 04:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres a few things in rdo that look interesting | 04:56 |
| mrproper | Such as? | 04:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ceilometer and heat | 04:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | and having something like nagios | 04:58 |
| mrproper | Oh yeah they do have that | 04:58 |
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| mrproper | Yeah something is up with my fedora image | 04:59 |
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| RobOakes | Good morning. Is there anyone who might be willing to answer a beginner question? I am trying to configure the Neutron networking service. I've set up keystone and am able to make requests to it. I've installed and registered a Neutron instance as per the documentation, and registered it with keystone. I've created a neutron user, set the password and assigned the admin user role. I've setup access points. | 04:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | check the nova compute logs | 04:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | might tell you whats borking | 04:59 |
| RobOakes | I'm not, however, able to make requests to the neutron service without getting "Unauthorized" errors. | 05:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | RobOakes: did you set up glance and nova somewhere? | 05:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron doesnt really live alone | 05:00 |
| RobOakes | No. I was hoping to setup a standalone instance of Neutron that could be tested against an oVirt cluster we use. | 05:01 |
| RobOakes | (Still kinda wading in the kiddie pool with OpenStack. I've been looking into PackStack as a next step.) | 05:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats kind of out of my realm. neutron integrates a lot with nova. | 05:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... one without the other... who knows | 05:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | RobOakes: rdo seems to work well | 05:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | once you fix a couple of things | 05:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | devstack is another option, although i'm not exactly sure how i got neutron working on it. kind of happened one day. | 05:03 |
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| RobOakes | (Reading documentation.) Oh, that's really helpful. I'll look into those. | 05:03 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: And your'e saying the compute log will have the error? | 05:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yeah it should | 05:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats where instance launching goop goes | 05:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | seems rdo likes debug mode, so it'll be chatty | 05:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RobOakes: you can probably get rdo working in a couple of hours | 05:05 |
| mrproper | Very chatty | 05:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can probably turn debug mode off and verbose mode on | 05:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | devstack uses debug mode too and its annoying | 05:06 |
| RobOakes | Sam-I-Am: Thanks, this looks really promising. I'll give it a try. Much better than trying to install and configure everything manually (though I did learn a great deal about keystone and neutron in the process). | 05:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you'll eventually want to do a manual install | 05:08 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Boy howdy is it chatty | 05:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | but for just proof-of-concept stuff... packages are much better | 05:08 |
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| RobOakes | Sam-I-Am: Agreed. | 05:09 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I wish more debugging info was available in Horizon | 05:16 |
| mrproper | It isn't logging the error | 05:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm there has to be one | 05:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | just hard to find | 05:17 |
| mrproper | It isn't filing as an ERROR at least | 05:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, no | 05:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | might search for 'volume' or 'trace' ... any capitalization | 05:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | or anything with the name of your instance | 05:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anywho, i need to get a few things done before locating my bed | 05:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | like... finding some tiny oranges | 05:19 |
| mrproper | Take care, thanks for the help | 05:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | who knows what tomorrow brings | 05:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | besides a meeting from noon to 6pm | 05:20 |
| mrproper | Take care! | 05:20 |
| mrproper | Yeah that's no fun | 05:20 |
| mrproper | Training tmw | 05:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure i'll see you around | 05:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least your stuff is working now | 05:21 |
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| dannyroberts | Hey Folks, I have 1 openstack controller, 6 compute nodes. I want to use Gluster for my backend for cinder. What Cinder components need to be configured where? All the guides I can find use LVM and not Gluster (except one which isn't very well written imo). | 07:51 |
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| ammini | dannyroberts: Did you check this -> http://www.gluster.org/category/openstack-cinder/ ? I hope that has info on how to configure Gluster as cinder backends. | 07:57 |
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| dannyroberts | ammini: I had not seen that page but I have seen the most useful link it points to and that is still lacking some of the info I need to understand the setup. For example the guide starts talking about installing cinder packages but doesn;t say where in the setup they should be installed. | 08:04 |
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| ammini | dannyroberts: In your case, in the controller node. | 08:07 |
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| ammini | I assume, you've glance/cinder/keystone/AMQP server all on the controller node with 6 nodes for nova compute. | 08:08 |
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| dannyroberts | ammini: Yes the controller has glance/cinder/keystone/rabbitmq and the compute nodes are just nova. I assume in my setup the nova/compute nodes talk to the controller to get access to the cinder/gluster volumes? | 08:09 |
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| ammini | dannyroberts: Yes | 08:16 |
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| vaibhav | hi | 08:24 |
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| vaibhav | i am using nova client to spin up instances on my devstack setup | 08:24 |
| vaibhav | nova client is sending some default networks ids | 08:24 |
| vaibhav | does anyone know a way to stop sending the default network ids | 08:24 |
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| dannyroberts | ammini: thanks! | 08:25 |
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| carnaler | hello room | 08:28 |
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| foexle | vaibhav: which network id's do you mean ? normally you have a tenant network and you'r instance will get a free ip automatically if you're using dhcp | 08:30 |
| vaibhav | foexle: will give u an example. one sec | 08:30 |
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| vaibhav | foexle: there are junk ids that are getting passes | 08:31 |
| vaibhav | foexle: "networks": [{"uuid": "00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"}, {"uuid": "11111111-1111-1111-1111-111111111111"}]}}' | 08:31 |
| vaibhav | foexle: i am just using this command | 08:31 |
| vaibhav | foexle: supernova admin boot test1 --image bf82b4b7-e9f9-485b-b1a9-79585a266ebe --flavor 1 --debug | 08:31 |
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| vaibhav | foexle: i think there is some config which is passing these default network ids by default if they are not passed in from the command line | 08:32 |
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| foexle | vaibhav: you are using devstack right ? which version ? Havana? because i don't used this CLI before. Normally the default one 'nova' | 08:34 |
| vaibhav | foexle: supernova internally calls nova | 08:35 |
| foexle | vaibhav: take a look on your tenant network, which id they have | 08:35 |
| vaibhav | foexle: that has a different id | 08:35 |
| foexle | vaibhav: i know its for mulitple regions | 08:35 |
| vaibhav | foexle: pming you | 08:35 |
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| foexle | vaibhav: do you have tried to set explicitely your network ? | 08:36 |
| vaibhav | foexle: yup | 08:36 |
| vaibhav | that works | 08:36 |
| vaibhav | foexle: but if i don't pass in anything it doesn't | 08:36 |
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| vaibhav | foexle: this is the request https://gist.github.com/vaibhavbansal/7559790/raw/b4232ddcb27bf6177efa5f8195efba1a8e4c9973/gistfile1.txt | 08:38 |
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| vks | hi | 08:39 |
| vks | i am unable to access vm launch on compute nodes throgh vnc | 08:39 |
| foexle | vaibhav: hmmm, which repo is it? this one ? https://github.com/major/supernova/tree/master/supernova | 08:40 |
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| vaibhav | foexle: yes | 08:40 |
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| vks | the vnc server on controller is showing Error: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED | 08:42 |
| foexle | vaibhav: hmm strange .... thers no default vars i'ts only a wrapper | 08:42 |
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| vaibhav | foexle: yeah, this is just a wrapper over nova client | 08:42 |
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| vaibhav | foexle: is there any config file for nova client where networks could be set | 08:43 |
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| foexle | vaibhav: normally not | 08:44 |
| vks | does any one got vnc related error | 08:44 |
| vks | ? | 08:44 |
| vaibhav | foexle: ok | 08:44 |
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| foexle | vks: anything isn't running or can't connected. Maybe keystone and or novnc | 08:44 |
| foexle | vaibhav: so I#m sorry i don't know, best way you ask on the mailing list | 08:45 |
| vaibhav | foexle: ok, thanks | 08:45 |
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| vks | foexle, i have use devstack to install openstack for multi node installation , in which one node is ctrl+compute and other node is compute only. VM which get launch in ctrl+compute node, their vnc is fine. nut those on compute node doesn't come with vnc | 08:46 |
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| vks | foxele, this is the errorof novnc on controller http://pastebin.com/PvEtC1Yw | 08:48 |
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| vks | foexle, its ERRCONN | 08:51 |
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| foexle | vks: is the kvm configuration correct? vncproxy correct ? ... try if you can cnnect via console | 08:53 |
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| vks | foexle, is there any other way i can acces those vm? | 08:53 |
| vks | foexle i tried but it didn't worked | 08:54 |
| vks | and it gave same error which i sent u | 08:54 |
| foexle | vks: ssh :) .... you need to set first your fw rules to get a connection | 08:54 |
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| foexle | open ingres port 22 and maybe ICMP | 08:54 |
| vks | ssh from where ? vm has private ip | 08:54 |
| foexle | with neutron ? | 08:55 |
| foexle | ovs ? | 08:55 |
| foexle | namespaced ? | 08:55 |
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| vks | how, can u tell me ? i don't know or u point me to any link | 08:55 |
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| foexle | check you if you're using neturon and ovs, if yes you can on your network node (in your case maybe your controller node) with ip netns exec qrouter-xx ssh -l xxx <ip> | 08:56 |
| foexle | if your're using nova-network and flat you can simply attach a private IP in your controller node and then connect to your vm. first you need set your sec groups (firewall rules) | 08:57 |
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| vks | oh i know that. i wl try and wl be back | 08:59 |
| RaviTezu | Creating volumes shows me the state as "Creating" for ever. any idea? how to debug it. | 09:00 |
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| RaviTezu | Same with detaching a existing volume | 09:00 |
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| RaviTezu | It is saying detaching from last 2 hours | 09:01 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I am reading at http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html that the compute node needs access to the mysql database on the controller. Is that really necessary? I thought the compute nodes just send tasks via RabbitMQ to the controller? | 09:14 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: The compute nodes need both. | 09:21 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ah okay. I hoped I could somehow isolate the database from the eyes of the compute nodes | 09:22 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | and do the compute nodes require the keystone and glance mysql user? no or? | 09:22 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: Yeah, I'm afraid not. But think about it this way: If the compute node doesn't have direct DB access, then you have to 1) Pipe all of the data through Rabbit and 2) Make the controller do all of the DB updates for each compute node--I don't imagine this would scale well | 09:23 |
| SebastianKreutzb | I actually thought that would be the concept. it be more distributed. but anyway. | 09:24 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | the compute nodes could be then "stupid" clients who just send orders to the controller. I thought it is more a master-slave architecture. | 09:25 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: FWIW, I worked on a another distributed system with a very similar architecture. In the first iteration, we were pumping everything through Rabbit, and sometimes using Redis for storing transient data | 09:26 |
| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: and that was not good? | 09:26 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: But this didn't work well, and we eventually made all of the tasks super lightweight and made the workers connect directly to the DB | 09:27 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: yeah, and it really didn't work well for even semi-large blobs of data | 09:27 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler - ok. just need to keep that in mind when the DB IP changes | 09:27 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: yeah | 09:27 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: To answer your other question, as far as I can tell, your nova nodes don't need the keystone and glance mysql credentials--just the nova ones | 09:28 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ok, I will restrict both mysql users and see if it crashes :) | 09:28 |
| larsbutler | I'm just looking at my own setup | 09:28 |
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| larsbutler | I have /etc/nova/nova.conf, and there is only a connection string for nova | 09:29 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: The only related config item I see is `glance_host=some.hostname.com` in /etc/nova/nova.conf | 09:31 |
| larsbutler | but it's only a hostname, no credentials | 09:31 |
| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: ok, I will report if it worked with a strict db user setup | 09:32 |
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| larsbutler | which makes sense, because the bulk of the communication occurs through rabbit | 09:32 |
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| larsbutler | and you already have credentials for that in your config | 09:33 |
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| carnaler | we've found something that doesn't work with cinder 2013.1.4, the /usr/bin/cinder-manage sm backend_add seems to have something weird but we are unsure about this, i'll explain; when running the parameters (i.e. Flavor_1 nfs name_label=StorageRepository04) we got an error that said: 'list' object has no attribute 'split', then we changed the line "i = item.split("=") for "word = item[0] \ i = word.split("=") " and now i got a con | 09:49 |
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| carnaler | have anyone found something like this | 09:49 |
| carnaler | ? | 09:49 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I'm following this guide for building my own ubuntu image -> http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ubuntu-image.html#d6e1470 . When i run virt-sysprep -d precise, i have "Failed to connect to virtio-serial channel" error. Someone can help me? I'm using ubuntu desktop 13.10 64bit | 10:22 |
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| dannyroberts | Is it possibly for Nova to store the VM disk images (KVM/QEMU) in Cinder or Glance rather than locally on each compute under /var/lib/nova/images or is this dont automatically is say CInder is configured in your environment? | 10:39 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I think I saw it somewhere, but can’t find it anymore: how can I set the start IP of FlatDHCP in nova.conf? | 10:44 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | hi there, i'm not able to spawn an instance. my eth2 (129.168.0.4) is loosing it's ipv4 address and can't connect to the server after i created and built an instance. br100 is getting 10.0.0.1. in the logs i see "xt_physdev: using --physdev-out in the OUTPUT, FORWARD and POSTROUTING chains for non-bridged traffic is not supported anymore" and after a while (looks like a timeout) "2013-11-20 12:12:37.390 3549 ERROR nova.compute.man | 11:16 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | sry, should be 192.168.0.4 not 129 | 11:17 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | the call to the metadata curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack should work on compute or controller node? I have the api on the controller node | 11:56 |
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| drazyl | SebastianKreutzb - did you get my message about iptables? | 12:13 |
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| askhan | guys which doc would you recommended to install openstack havana on Ubuntu 13.10 | 12:14 |
| askhan | is there a fast way to install openstack on ubuntu like Fedora/RH packstack? | 12:14 |
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| decede | askhan: MAAS and juju are supposed to be pretty good | 12:18 |
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| decede | Has anyone had any experiance using them for openstack deploys? | 12:18 |
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| pablohn | what should install to use kvm-img and kvm commands? | 12:19 |
| pablohn | kvm is already installed | 12:19 |
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| askhan | decede, thanks will have a look | 12:21 |
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| eddie_catflap | pablohn: On ubuntu qemu-kvm and qemu-utils | 12:27 |
| pablohn | eddie_catflap, and in CentOS? | 12:28 |
| pablohn | I have installed qemu-kvm and qemu-kvm-tools | 12:28 |
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| pablohn | but no kvm or qemu-kvm command found | 12:28 |
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| eddie_catflap | pablohn: which version - 6.4? | 12:35 |
| pablohn | yes | 12:35 |
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| pablohn | will be better to switch to Mint | 12:42 |
| pablohn | I do not find the command | 12:43 |
| pablohn | I think kvm in Ubuntu is virt-install in CentOS | 12:43 |
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| pablohn | but for example -m in Ubuntu is the memory and in CentOS is the MAC address | 12:43 |
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| pablohn | thank you for your support | 12:44 |
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| eddie_catflap | pablohn: centos is fine as is ubuntu - a matter of personal preference. There are a few packages needed | 12:44 |
| eddie_catflap | kvm libvirt qemu-kvm | 12:44 |
| eddie_catflap | whoops, too late! | 12:44 |
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| s2r2 | any ideas how to re-enable a network in OVS? for ome reason, all tafffic on an interface is dropped in openvswitch (i.e. ovs-dpctl dump-flows br…) | 12:50 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | drazyl: sorry, no. I did not get your message relating iptables | 13:00 |
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| drazyl | SebastianKreutzb - I use iptables to NAT the request back to the controller node | 13:00 |
| drazyl | SebastianKreutzb - iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_CONTROLLER>:8775 | 13:00 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | drazyl: so you install nova-api-metadata on each compute node? or do you just NAT the traffic to the controller node where the api itself takes care for metadata? | 13:01 |
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| drazyl | NAT it back to the controller from the compute node | 13:02 |
| SebastianKreutzb | and on the compute node you have nova-api-metadata? or normal nova-api? | 13:02 |
| drazyl | you could install the nova-api-metadata on the compute node and NAT it to itself I guess as well | 13:02 |
| SebastianKreutzb | sorry, I meant: on the controller node you have nova-api-metadata? or normal nova-api? | 13:03 |
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| drazyl | nova-api | 13:03 |
| SebastianKreutzb | drazyl: thanks, I will give it a try now :) | 13:04 |
| drazyl | seems to work for my setup at least :) | 13:04 |
| SebastianKreutzb | everything worked for me fine from the documentation setup, just the VMs do not know my injected SSH key, so it seems a metadata issue | 13:05 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I try your solution now | 13:05 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I think I saw it somewhere, but can’t find it anymore: how can I set the start IP of FlatDHCP in nova.conf? | 13:23 |
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| ibNewJersey | question about dashboard | 13:27 |
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| drazyl | SebastianKreutzb don't you set it in the relevant subnet config in neutron? | 13:29 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I use nova-network (following the documentation). but that’s maybe wrong? | 13:30 |
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| drazyl | ahhh, using neutron here, so probably different | 13:31 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | drazyl: relating metadata: I re-installed nova on the controller (had a snapshot) and now this call works: curl http://0.0.0.0:8775/ but this one takes very long (seems to fail) curl http://169.254.169.254:8775 | 13:32 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | sorry, I mean this one curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack | 13:32 |
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| xevwork | If I want bonded network interfaces, do I set those up myself or do I set that up in the OpenStack configuration? | 13:38 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | drazyl: I manually added the iptables NAT but still can not connect to http://169.254.169.254/openstack | 14:04 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | do I need to add some general iptables stuff? | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | howdy folks | 14:06 |
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| drazyl | I think that's the only custom bit I added | 14:08 |
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| cflmarques | Hi guys. I am looking forward to upgrade my grizzly openstack installation to the new release Havana. Witch guide should I follow? | 14:09 |
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| dobber | when following the debian install guide, after installing the dashboard i get "EndpointNotFound: publicURL endpoint for identity not found." when trying to login | 14:14 |
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| dobber | http://pastie.org/8495403 | 14:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dobber: did you configure the endpoint in keystone | 14:15 |
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| dobber | help me check | 14:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what page of the docs are you looking at? | 14:16 |
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| dobber | # keystone endpoint-list | 14:17 |
| dobber | Unable to authorize user | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you source your rc file? | 14:17 |
| dobber | Sam-I-Am: I am up to here: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/install_dashboard.html | 14:17 |
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| dobber | in keystone.log: WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 10.0.0.10 | 14:18 |
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| dobber | the only command that seems to work is keystone token-get | 14:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you're probably not the admin user | 14:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do you have an rc file? | 14:19 |
| dobber | yep | 14:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | apparently horizon doesnt use an endpoint in keystone | 14:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but it does have a local_settings.py | 14:20 |
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| dobber | there is a #OPENSTACK_ENDPOINT_TYPE in local_settings.py, maybe i should try it ? | 14:21 |
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| dobber | there is a horizon user in the system | 14:23 |
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| dobber | i'll try to copy the rc file there | 14:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you should have created a keystonerc file for the admin user when you started building this system | 14:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | when sourced, it lets you run the openstack commands as that user | 14:24 |
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| dobber | i did | 14:26 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | hi there, i'm not able to spawn an instance. my eth2 (192.168.0.4) is loosing it's ipv4 address and can't connect to the server after i created and built an instance. br100 is getting 10.0.0.1. in the logs i see "xt_physdev: using --physdev-out in the OUTPUT, FORWARD and POSTROUTING chains for non-bridged traffic is not supported anymore" and after a while (looks like a timeout) "2013-11-20 12:12:37.390 3549 ERROR nova.compute.man | 14:26 |
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| dobber | oh well, maybe something is wrong in the database | 14:26 |
| dobber | time to dig in | 14:26 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | maybe it's an misconfiguration of the interfaces? i'm not sure if my interfaces are setup correct | 14:32 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | maybe someone can post a working config? | 14:35 |
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| annegentle | vivi_irc_2013: tell more about your config - nova-network? neutron? | 14:37 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | nova network, eth1 has 10.1.0.4 (dhcp - external) eth2 has 192.168.0.4 (static, promisc - internal) br100 is getting 10.0.0.1 if i lauch an instance | 14:38 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | after lanching an istance it is built, but eth2 then looses its connection to the server (192.168.0.1) | 14:39 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | oh gosh, this metadata issue drives me crazy. the NAT seems to properly set, but it does not work | 14:42 |
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| annegentle | vivi_irc_2013: I can't find anything to back up a guess, but I think you should check the iptables routing | 14:44 |
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| annegentle | vivi_irc_2013: have you searched on ask.openstack.org, for example https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/5518/restricting-external-dhcp/ | 14:45 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | annegentle: yes, I set the routing and I can see it but it still does not work | 14:46 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | when the br100 has launched, the ip address of eth2 is gone | 14:46 |
| SebastianKreutzb | I did 'iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:8775' so that its routed to lcoalhost | 14:46 |
| sgran | vivi_irc_2013: yes. Treat the nic that you use for VM traffic as unmanaged from your point of view | 14:47 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | ok, i just edited my interfaces file ... i now just have auto eth2 .. nothing else | 14:48 |
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| sgran | I have | 14:49 |
| sgran | auto eth2 | 14:49 |
| sgran | iface eth2 inet manual | 14:49 |
| sgran | I use OVS and neutron, so I do some other configuration to it outside of network/interfaces, but that should be all you need there | 14:49 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | and the br100 ? | 14:50 |
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| sgran | that sounds like nova network ? | 14:51 |
| sgran | I can't remember if you have to create br100 or nova network does | 14:51 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | i have to, because it's not created by nova. i create it a startup | 14:52 |
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| sgran | nod, so the normal | 14:52 |
| sgran | auto br100 | 14:52 |
| sgran | ... for bridge stuff | 14:53 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | and eth2 is in promisc mode? | 14:53 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | i'm trying to launch an instance now | 14:55 |
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| hesco | My architecture under development (at the moment) in 5u: a controller server (running db, rabbitmq, neutron, dashboard, etc), an appliance switch, a file and object store server (ceph is planned), plus two compute nodes. My question is this: Using the recipe at: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst, is step 4.3 KVM necessary on my controller node? or | 14:57 |
| hesco | is that only for my compute nodes? | 14:57 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | is not working, no br100 and no eth2 at ifconfig ... and the instance doesn't get an ip ... further instances does | 14:58 |
| gmi | hesco:KVM should be installed only on the compute nodes | 14:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | but nova needs to run on the controller | 14:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hesco: that section says just for compute nodes | 14:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | section 4 is 'compute node' | 14:59 |
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| hesco | thanks Sam-I-Am | 15:00 |
| hesco | guess I missed that | 15:00 |
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| hesco | ah, I see now | 15:00 |
| hesco | thanks | 15:00 |
| decede | Anyone know what "keymgr.fixed_key" is in cinder? | 15:00 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | i get a warning: WARNING nova.db.sqlalchemy.api Change will make usage less than 0 for the following resources: ['fixed_ips'] and an error: ERROR nova.network.manager Unable to release 10.0.0.3 because vif doesn't exist. | 15:03 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | because the interfaces are not up after reboot ... changed this and will try again | 15:07 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | dnsmasq[3919]: cannot run lease-init script /usr/local/bin/nova-dhcpbridge: No such file or directory | 15:13 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | /etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf ... i don't have this file | 15:19 |
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| hesco | will a gigbit nic always be able to negotiate a slower connection speed, even if the 10/100 options are not listed in its advertising? | 15:22 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | can nova-networking be installed on the controller node even I want to have several compute nodes later? | 15:26 |
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| hesco | SebastianKreutzb: this is my first time out, but that is my plan. and folks here have suggested it should work until there are a handful of compute nodes to manage | 15:30 |
| jfarschman | SebastianKreutzb: sure. my original folsom install was configured that way | 15:30 |
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| jfarschman | now I do nova-network on each compute node | 15:30 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | dnsmasq[4259]: cannot run lease-init script /usr/local/bin/nova-dhcpbridge: No such file or directory does dnsmasq has a config file? because in nova.conf i changed dhcpbridge to usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge | 15:31 |
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| jfarschman | sure… but generally it isn't used unless you configure it in Nova | 15:32 |
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| jfarschman | But, your error message says " /usr/local/bin/nova-dhcpbridge" …. does that directory exist? | 15:33 |
| jfarschman | You can configure that location with the dhcpbridge flag in nova.conf | 15:34 |
| jfarschman | for instance "dhcpbridge=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge" | 15:34 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | sry .. i did, but didn't restart nova ... will try again | 15:35 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | no error in syslog now | 15:39 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | but: test8 | ERROR | None | NOSTATE | | | 15:39 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | it looks like the virtual network interfaces are created now, but still no access to server 192.168.0.1 | 15:43 |
| jfarschman | ps -ef |grep dnsmasq @vivi_irc_2013 | 15:43 |
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| jfarschman | that will reveal the running config to you. | 15:43 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | should it run after a node reboot? | 15:45 |
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| ogzy | here is what i get when i run chef-client on the controller node | 15:47 |
| ogzy | chef_server_url "https://10.236.11.10:443" | 15:47 |
| ogzy | node_name "horizon1" | 15:47 |
| ogzy | client_key "/etc/chef/client.pem" | 15:47 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | dnsmasq[3984]: lease-init script returned exit code 1 | 15:47 |
| ogzy | indeed the nodename should be horizon1.manage.zone1 | 15:48 |
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| ogzy | when i run knife bootstrak i see both horizon1 and horizon1.manage.zone1 added to the client list | 15:48 |
| ogzy | it seems somehow there is a dublicate | 15:48 |
| ogzy | Failed to authenticate as 'horizon1'. Ensure that your node_name and client key are correct. | 15:49 |
| ogzy | is what i got | 15:49 |
| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: yes it will run if nova-network is running. BTW: you should @jfarschman me or I won't notice | 15:49 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarsch nova network is running, but the dnsmasq not | 15:50 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: when you do a user's whole name they may get an audible sound that alerts them their name was mentioned. | 15:51 |
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| jfarschman | I'm guessing that if your dnsmasq isn't running you may need to find the reason why. I would likely restart nova-network with debug and verbose running and look for the [roblem there | 15:52 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman it will try to run: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf env CONFIG_FILE=["/etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf"] NETWORK_ID=1 dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --conf-file= --pid-file=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.pid --listen-address=10.0.0.1 --except-interface=lo --dhcp-range=set:vmnet,10.0.0.2,static,255.255.255.0,120s --dhcp-lease-max=256 --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf --dhcp-sc | 15:55 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | but i have no /etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf | 15:55 |
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| jfarschman | touch /etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf | 15:57 |
| jfarschman | that will make an empty file | 15:57 |
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| jfarschman | seems like mine is here "cat /usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge" @vivi_irc_2013 | 15:58 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | is this the conf file? @jfarschman because this file i already uncomment in nova.conf. it was looking for this file before, and i got some errors in the syslog | 16:01 |
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| christophe-de | Hey everyone, I'm running OpenStack on Ubuntu. Since the update to 13.10 I managed it to get it running a couple of times, but after reboots everything stops working immediately. | 16:03 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | same error | 16:03 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: you may want to paste the networking info from you nova.conf | 16:08 |
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| foexle | heyho guys, is it possible in havana to use an other database backand as mongodb for ceilometer ? | 16:08 |
| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: I've lost track of your issue a bit because I cannot see what you can see. | 16:08 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman i maybe found the problem, i now updated dnsmasq, becaus the old one was not compatible with nova and will try again | 16:11 |
| jfarschman | hahaha…. excellent | 16:11 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | dnsmasq is now running permanently | 16:11 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | guys, is that a normal setting that my VM with IP 10.0.0.3 can ping my bridge at 10.0.0.1? | 16:18 |
| SebastianKreutzb | the bridge is created on eth1 of the compute node - that is secure or? I mean the VM can not access the compute node or? | 16:19 |
| KaZeR_ | hi there. | 16:19 |
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| sgran | foexle: there is an sqlalchemy backend that you can use with postgres/ysql, but the aggregation queries are buggy | 16:20 |
| KaZeR_ | anyone having slowness with the metadata called from instances? | 16:20 |
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| sgran | mongo works better for now | 16:20 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman error state with no syslog entries | 16:20 |
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| foexle | sgran: ok thanks | 16:23 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: it just died? Error state is a bit vague. | 16:24 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman yes, it died without anything | 16:25 |
| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: I have seen this before when it attempts to listen on an occupied IP address | 16:26 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman occupied? | 16:26 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: already used. it will try to listen on a address…. but maybe that address is in use | 16:27 |
| SebastianKreutzb | oh, and I can ping from my VM (10.0.0.3) my controller node (172.16.235.145) - I think that’s not good, right? | 16:27 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | before it died, it has 10.0.0.3 | 16:27 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: it dies because it cannot access one or more of it's resources. That could be the LISTEN address, or other things as well I suppose | 16:30 |
| jfarschman | otherwise it just runs | 16:30 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman after a reboot of the node i still have the same error as before, dnsmasq[4006]: lease-init script returned exit code 1 .... when i run the executed script i get: | 16:33 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | Traceback (most recent call last): | 16:33 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | File "/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge", line 10, in <module> | 16:33 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | sys.exit(main()) | 16:33 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/cmd/dhcpbridge.py", line 100, in main | 16:33 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | default_config_files=jsonutils.loads(os.environ['CONFIG_FILE'])) | 16:33 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/openstack/common/jsonutils.py", line 166, in loads | 16:33 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | return json.loads(s) | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 326, in loads | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | return _default_decoder.decode(s) | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 365, in decode | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | obj, end = self.raw_decode(s, idx=_w(s, 0).end()) | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 383, in raw_decode | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | raise ValueError("No JSON object could be decoded") | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded | 16:34 |
| smyers | ...pastebin | 16:34 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | sry | 16:34 |
| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: and my line 10 is a comment line | 16:34 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman http://pastebin.com/Rxi8Fd6r | 16:36 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: What is that file you pasted? I don't think I have one. Seriously, you need to paste your network setup from nova.conf | 16:38 |
| jfarschman | this stuff makes little sense until you see the bigger picture. | 16:39 |
| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman this is my nova-dhcpbridge file ... ok | 16:39 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: Mine is very different --- http://paste.openstack.org/show/53685/ | 16:42 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | should I install Horizon on the controller node or on one of the compute nodes? or somewhere totally else? | 16:45 |
| SebastianKreutzb | maybe on an openstack VM? | 16:45 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: Probably the control node | 16:45 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ok | 16:46 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman i see, mine if from the deb wheezy built | 16:46 |
| jfarschman | Well, I may not be of much use to you. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. | 16:47 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: installing it on a VM is an interesting idea, though | 16:47 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman my nova network conf: http://pastebin.com/Z8H5TcGE | 16:47 |
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| jfarschman | I have done that larsbutler. I have a Grizzly backend with a Havanna Dashboard in a VM…. as an alternate dashboard for testing. | 16:48 |
| jfarschman | kinda cool | 16:48 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | jfarschman: it gives some more isolation I guess | 16:49 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman: yeah, actually it seems like a good idea now that I think about it more | 16:49 |
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| jfarschman | well, I have the original dashboard on the controller | 16:49 |
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| jfarschman | and another one because, frankly, the dashboard always lags the API enhancements a bit. | 16:49 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | how do you guys isolate your networks? I mean can you ping inside an VM your openstack controller for example? | 16:51 |
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| jfarschman | fixed_range=???? in your nova.conf I don't see where you defined this vivi_irc_2013 | 16:53 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: Not sure quite what you're asking. The VMs need to be able to communicate with the controller, I would think. And yes, my VMs can ping the controller. | 16:53 |
| jfarschman | mine too | 16:54 |
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| larsbutler | for example, the controller has a br100 interface with the ip 10.0.0.3 | 16:54 |
| larsbutler | and the VMs are given IPs in the same subnet | 16:54 |
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| jfarschman | What he is asking is… if you can ping a controller, could you possible compromise it. and bridge to the state db for instance. | 16:54 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | jfarschman: yes that’s what I mean | 16:55 |
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| jfarschman | yes, there are issues with security in my mind -- Every nova-compute node has a connection into the openstack controllers mysql database | 16:56 |
| larsbutler | jfarschman, SebastianKreutzb: ah, I see. I don't really know what people are doing to solve that | 16:56 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman i didn't because i couldn't find it in the debian wheezy manual :-( | 16:56 |
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| jfarschman | vivi_irc_2013: :-( I think you may want to reference more than one manual | 16:57 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | is there a way to manually assign a private/internal IP to a VM during creation with nova boot? | 16:57 |
| jfarschman | https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 16:58 |
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| jfarschman | If you leave that blank I think your fixed network gets auto-assigned, and that may work if that network is appropriate, but you still need to reference another install guide. Above is a nice ubuntu guide | 16:59 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I ask because my compute node has on its eth1 the IP 10.0.0.2 but this IP is the first one of my VM-range. So I always fail to connect to my first VM (which has 10.0.0.2 like the compute node itself). | 16:59 |
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| jfarschman | SebastianKreutzb: a FIXED IP? or a FLOATING IP. | 16:59 |
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| jfarschman | you set the DNS range | 17:00 |
| jfarschman | excuse me --dhcp-range=set: | 17:00 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | jfarschman: for nova.conf? so I would do something like "dhcp-range=set:private,10.0.0.3"? | 17:02 |
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| jfarschman | SebastianKreutzb: actually I think it was in the network definitions | 17:03 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | jfarschman: there I did a --fixed-range-v4=10.0.0.0/24 but did not find any starting IP (like to exclude the 10.0.0.2) | 17:03 |
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| jfarschman | SebastianKreutzb give me a second | 17:04 |
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| jfarschman | nova network-show <uuid> and set dhcp_start to your the first address. SebastianKreutzb | 17:07 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | jfarschman: oh that’s awesome, thanks! | 17:08 |
| jfarschman | bbl | 17:08 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | jfarschman: oh my, I dare to ask but how do I actually change the dhcp_start value? I tried `nova network-show private --dhcp_start=10.0.0.3`but it throws an error. the network "private" exists, just the syntax seems wrong :/ | 17:13 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | @jfarschman i added fixed-range fixed_range=10.0.0.0/24 and restarted the services but still have error state | 17:14 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: I don't think "network-show" can actually change anything. It's only for printing info | 17:17 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: googling around, I found this: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v48r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sco.doc_2.2%2Ft_postinstall_flat.html | 17:17 |
| larsbutler | search for dhcp_start -- it shows a possible solution | 17:18 |
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| larsbutler | kinda ugly, since you have to do it directly to the DB | 17:18 |
| larsbutler | there may be a cleaner way | 17:18 |
| SebastianKreutzb | ouch, but it’s a start. thanks :) | 17:18 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: np | 17:20 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: looking at the command line interface and docs… it seems there is no other way to configure this other than hitting the DB automatically | 17:23 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | ok, time to contribute that (someday) | 17:24 |
| larsbutler | which kind of makes sense… when you create a network, it's a _new_ network | 17:24 |
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| larsbutler | and the range of IPs is determined by the network ID and subnet mask (10.0.0.0/24, for example) | 17:25 |
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| larsbutler | yeah, it's not a bad idea | 17:26 |
| larsbutler | if you wanted to, for example, reserve a couple of IPs in that range for whatever reason | 17:26 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: why do you want/need to do that, out of curiosity? | 17:27 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: because the compute node itself has 10.0.0.2 | 17:27 |
| jfarschman | Just on a lark, the author of hybrid.py isn't here is he today, is he? We are trying to make some changes to the hybrid LDAP/SQL | 17:27 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: oh. and your controller is 10.0.0.1? | 17:27 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | yes | 17:28 |
| jfarschman | I reserve the first 31 addresses | 17:28 |
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| jfarschman | that is about as big as our install is going to get | 17:28 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: why not put your controller and nodes on a different network? | 17:28 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: I think this is actually recommended | 17:29 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: I will find a link... | 17:29 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: here we go: http://www.mirantis.com/blog/openstack-networking-single-host-flatdhcpmanager/#ping-outside-from-vm | 17:29 |
| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: I thought it is necessary to have eth0 on controller and compute node to have a public IP and eth1 have an internal IP | 17:29 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: I don't think so. Let me show you my config, and maybe I'm wrong. | 17:30 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: on my controller, eth0 -> 10.240.0.248 | 17:31 |
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| larsbutler | that's private IP on a firewalled network | 17:31 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: br100, which nova created, has 10.0.0.1 | 17:32 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: I have more interfaces (eth1, eth2, eth3), but they're unused | 17:32 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: ah that is interesting. and it sounds far more reasonable to me | 17:32 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: yeah, to me it makes more sense to separate the networks | 17:33 |
| larsbutler | (both of 10.240.0.0 and 10.0.0.0 have subnet masks=255.255.255.0, FYI) | 17:33 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: your compute node has on eth0 10.240.0.x and the bridge and no eth1? | 17:34 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: No, just eth0 with a 10.240.0.x IP and a virbr0 with 192.168.122.1 (<--- honestly, I can't remember where this one came from) | 17:35 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: funny, I have the same 192.168.122.1 and wondered where I have that from, too. maybe it is from KVM itself or so | 17:36 |
| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: and how does your compute node’s interfaces look like? | 17:36 |
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| jfarschman | 192.168.122.1 is a code default | 17:37 |
| jfarschman | If you don't specify it in the nova.conf you get the defaults | 17:38 |
| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: here's the full config http://paste.openstack.org/show/53688/ | 17:38 |
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| larsbutler | SebastianKreutzb: ignore eth1, it's unused on both | 17:39 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | alright. I will try to setup my openstack again with your settings. seems better to me. | 17:41 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | larsbutler: need to go now. thanks! | 17:41 |
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| vivi_irc_2013 | giving up for today ... byby and thx a lot | 17:46 |
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| norris900 | long shot but has anyone experienced this neutron openvswitch problem Stderr: 'ovs-ofctl: -1: negative values not supported for in_port\n' | 17:48 |
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| dachary | Hi, How can I copy the content of a volume into cinder ? Without going thru glance that is. | 18:01 |
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| JamJar | Is there a way to get more detailed info from keystone about an auth refusal than "no". Following the debian setup docs and can't persuade it to do a token-get | 18:09 |
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| KaZeR_ | dachary: what kind of volume? | 18:17 |
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| KaZeR_ | what backend storage are you using for cinder? | 18:18 |
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| dachary | KaZeR_: LVM volumes | 18:18 |
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| dolphm | JamJar: enable debug in keystone for more verbose failures (grizzly+ i think) | 18:19 |
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| JamJar | dolphm: d'oh! that helps, invalid user apparently | 18:24 |
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| JamJar | I've just set this up through debconf, and definitely gave it the administrative user "admin" - still no dice | 18:27 |
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| JamJar | do you know where I can look to check the admin user exists? | 18:27 |
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| gmi | dachary: the easiest way is to create a volume with same size, attach it to an instance and then dd over ssh your old volume into your instance's attached cinder based volume | 18:28 |
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| JamJar | poking around mysql shows the 'user' table to be empty | 18:29 |
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| dachary | gmi: cool, that's what I was aiming for and I'm glad you confirm there is no eaiser way that I missed ;-) | 19:00 |
| gmi | dachary: that's pretty easy | 19:00 |
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| gmi | dachary: you can apparently migrate volumes between two cinder hosts in Havana (http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/managing-volumes.html#section_manage-volumes) but you want to migrate or copy a volume that's outside of Openstack | 19:05 |
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| JamJar | dolphm: fixed it - turns out that the debian packages I'm using simply don't set up the user | 19:06 |
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| dolphm | JamJar: checkout `$ keystone help bootstrap` then :) | 19:07 |
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| JamJar | I used commands from the docs for ubuntu rather than the docs for debian :/ | 19:07 |
| JamJar | time for a bug report there I think | 19:07 |
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| monst | I am trying to add functionality to a identity driver for keystone... when i try to run a subprocess call to run a script it just hangs the script | 19:18 |
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| monst | i set keystone user shell to /bin/bash | 19:18 |
| monst | any ideas? | 19:18 |
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| monst | is there something else wonky with keystone user | 19:18 |
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| larsks | monst: what script are you running? have you tried using "strace" to figure out what your script is doing? how are you calling the script? | 19:19 |
| monst | my script does a tenant create | 19:19 |
| monst | if I do tenant_create user | 19:20 |
| monst | the project is created | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | monst, so you're trying to automatically create a tenant from a subprocess from within keystone? | 19:20 |
| monst | i can even do it as keystone user | 19:20 |
| monst | yes | 19:20 |
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| dolphm | monst: *within* keystone?? | 19:20 |
| monst | when I do it from the hybrid.py which is ldap+sql | 19:20 |
| monst | i see it in ps aux but it doesnt complete | 19:21 |
| dolphm | (ah, reading back..) | 19:21 |
| monst | its a custom backend identity driver. | 19:21 |
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| dolphm | monst: hmm... it's impossible to say without knowing exactly what call it's hanging on | 19:22 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, i'd need ot know more about what is going on in the script. but it seems like you could likely leverage python directly to avoid the need to subprocess? | 19:22 |
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| monst | sure let me pastebin | 19:22 |
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| monst | ok here is my hybrid.py | 19:25 |
| monst | http://paste.openstack.org/show/53695/ | 19:25 |
| monst | if to go down to "create_tenant" | 19:25 |
| monst | line 111 | 19:26 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, and what does /var/lib/keystone/create_tenant do? | 19:26 |
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| monst | http://paste.openstack.org/show/53696/ | 19:27 |
| monst | that is create_tenant ^ | 19:27 |
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| monst | I also adjsuted my passwd file so keystone is /bin/bash instead of /bin/false | 19:27 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, ok, you don't need to subprocess out to create a tenant using the REST API. you could call assignment_api.create_tenant directly | 19:28 |
| monst | ok that would be helpful | 19:28 |
| morganfainberg | monst, is this grizzly? havana? | 19:29 |
| monst | would you mind providing me an example | 19:29 |
| monst | grizzly | 19:29 |
| morganfainberg | ok | 19:29 |
| monst | been fighting this thing for a day and half now | 19:29 |
| morganfainberg | sure. let me look at grizzly code (need to refresh my brain) | 19:29 |
| monst | thanks man | 19:30 |
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| morganfainberg | ok since you're subclassing keystone.identity.backens.sql.Identity you have the ability to call the methods directly on the identity backend | 19:31 |
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| morganfainberg | e.g. self.create_project | 19:31 |
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| morganfainberg | so if you look here https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/backends/sql.py#L421 you can see that you need to create a "tenant_ref" and "tenant_id". | 19:32 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, example of calling the create_project method: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L103 | 19:32 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, that method ( https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L94 ) is just what the REST api will end up doing if you call it externally like you are doing in the subprocess call | 19:33 |
| morganfainberg | monst, does that give you a place to start? | 19:34 |
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| monst | it does, but my python is pretty bad, actually programming in general. i am a engineer... sooo heres a couple questions | 19:35 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, sure. | 19:35 |
| monst | my script does this... | 19:35 |
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| monst | checks sql for the user | 19:35 |
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| monst | if not it sql it check ldap | 19:35 |
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| monst | if it is in ldap... and has a project with the same name as the user, example "jsindy" | 19:36 |
| monst | it logs in | 19:36 |
| morganfainberg | else it makes the tenant? | 19:36 |
| monst | correct | 19:36 |
| monst | so I have the variable jsindy, to create the tenant with | 19:37 |
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| monst | I dont have a tenant id, since the tenant isnt created yet? | 19:37 |
| morganfainberg | correct. you can use (as shown on the controller link above) uuid.uuid4().hex to make a tenant id | 19:37 |
| morganfainberg | thats how we do it if one isn't provided: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L102 | 19:38 |
| monst | interesting | 19:38 |
| morganfainberg | and set "name" value in the dictionary to the user's name (jsindy in that case) | 19:38 |
| monst | ok that makes more senes | 19:38 |
| monst | sense | 19:38 |
| morganfainberg | sure :) | 19:39 |
| monst | thats half the battle | 19:39 |
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| monst | let me show you my other hack | 19:39 |
| morganfainberg | monst, you'll likely also need to use a call like: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L217 | 19:40 |
| monst | starting at line 125 | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | to make sure the user has access to the new tenant | 19:40 |
| monst | on http://paste.openstack.org/show/53695/ | 19:40 |
| monst | oh ok | 19:40 |
| monst | thats the hack i was doing | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | now, word of warning, a lot of this code changes in havana | 19:40 |
| monst | i was matching the tenant id in the database to the name | 19:40 |
| monst | then linking them | 19:40 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, just be aware when / if you're porting your custom identity driver forward. | 19:41 |
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| monst | we are gonna run grizzly for atleast a year i think | 19:41 |
| monst | thanks for the heads up | 19:41 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, cool. after havana we are working ot maintain compatibility on internal APIs (like the create_project call) for at least a cycle. e.g. if we change it in the icehouse cycle, we'll try and keep the old method/functionality until the J release | 19:42 |
| monst | awesome | 19:42 |
| morganfainberg | monst, and it should put warnings in the logs that the code is deprecated in those cases. | 19:43 |
| morganfainberg | monst, anyway, glad to help! :) good luck with the custom identity driver (I did something very similar for essex and grizzly for my company) | 19:43 |
| monst | do want | 19:43 |
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| monst | =) | 19:44 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, for icehouse most of it goes away since we will have a mechanism to support multiple stores for users (e.g. some users in LDAP, some in SQL, some in other SQL (maybe)) | 19:44 |
| morganfainberg | monst, but it's in the earlier stages of development still | 19:44 |
| monst | how about SAML and oauth? | 19:45 |
| monst | <3 sso | 19:45 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, havana has OAuth 1 support (as an extension) and we have plans to support federated identity in icehouse (SAML is one of the many thigns we discussed at the summit a couple weeks back) | 19:46 |
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| monst | we were at the summit in Oregon, coworker persented on OAuth1 | 19:46 |
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| monst | or 2 im not sure | 19:47 |
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| monst | morganfainberg: am i trying to use self.createproject('username') | 19:56 |
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| monst | or do I need to rewrite this whole function? | 19:57 |
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| monst | seems I am missing context for the create project | 19:57 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, self.create_project(<new id>, <python dictionary containing 'name' as a key with the value of the username>) | 19:58 |
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| morganfainberg | monst, if you look at the controller example, (ignoring "context" argument, since that isn't passed back to the driver in this case), you need the id and the "ref" which is a dictionary holding the values for the project/tenant | 19:59 |
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| morganfainberg | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/backends/sql.py#L421 is the method you're going to be calling by using self.create_project since you've subclassed https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/identity/backends/sql.py#L153 | 19:59 |
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| monst | ok thanks for clarifying | 20:00 |
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| awaad | Is it possible to use open stack for virtualization only? | 20:37 |
| dolphm | monst: what was the name of the talk / session / presenter on oauth? | 20:38 |
| dolphm | monst: keystone had a design session on delegation in general | 20:38 |
| monst | david waite | 20:38 |
| monst | was the presentor | 20:38 |
| monst | let me find it | 20:39 |
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| dolphm | monst: ah, i didn't know he was at the icehouse summit! | 20:42 |
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| nadley | hi all | 20:43 |
| dolphm | nadley: o/ | 20:43 |
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| monst | dolphm: http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/event/f9633b038397252508e50139d182e24e | 20:45 |
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| monst | that was the session | 20:45 |
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| nadley | small question I'm new with openstack and trying to understand it, installing each component one by one to understand them. Actually I have keystone installed with a user, a role and tenant. now I'm trying to setup horizon and I have trouble to authenticated on horizon with my user. Where can I find information to debug it ? | 20:47 |
| dolphm | monst: ooh, back in april. i was there! i thought you were referring to the conference a couple weeks ago | 20:47 |
| dolphm | monst: we missed his presence there ^ | 20:47 |
| monst | yeah, he didnt go | 20:47 |
| monst | we will goto the atlanta one | 20:48 |
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| dolphm | monst: understandable -- looking forward to it | 20:48 |
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| awaad | Is it possible to use open stack for virtualization only? | 20:52 |
| awaad | Any one can tell me? | 20:52 |
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| lowkey | awaad, why not | 20:53 |
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| awaad | lowkey: I am very new to cloud/virtualization concepts and I am confused. I know that vsphere, xenserver,rhev are virtualization solutions but I don't know if openstack can be used just like them. | 20:55 |
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| Gamekiller77 | any one good with the dashboard in the house | 20:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | with havana | 20:58 |
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| Gamekiller77 | trying to find where system info is pulled from | 20:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | i getting nasty errors | 20:58 |
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| nadley | I find my problem it was about SeLinux issue. ;-) | 21:04 |
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| dsockwell | Is there a reason for me not to forego local/ephemeral volumes for all flavors and just do all disks in Cinder? | 21:51 |
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| dsockwell | seems like an OK idea to me, but maybe i'm missing something | 21:51 |
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| harlowja | dsockwell u have to ask what your use-case is | 22:26 |
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| harlowja | and how u plan on using cinder | 22:26 |
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| dsockwell | but the idea isn't insane by itself? | 22:26 |
| harlowja | if all storage is remote, then u are always taking a hit for every read/write to remote storage | 22:26 |
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| harlowja | its not insane, its just u have to be careful with what that changes | 22:26 |
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| dsockwell | ok fair enough | 22:26 |
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| dsockwell | this is a one-node setup and i'm trying to manage the storage effectively | 22:26 |
| dsockwell | and if i don't have to balance local images with the cinder backend, then so much the better | 22:27 |
| harlowja | sure | 22:27 |
| dsockwell | so ok. i'll revisit the issue if i go multi-node | 22:27 |
| harlowja | just if u grow, remote storage will become slower and slower as u get more nodes | 22:27 |
| dsockwell | it will probably be simpler with a dedicated cinder box anyway | 22:27 |
| harlowja | sure | 22:28 |
| dsockwell | cool, thanks | 22:28 |
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| dsockwell | if i grow i might not be reusing this node, also, so i dont' think i need to future-proof at this stage | 22:28 |
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