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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I'm debating what I want to do. OpenStack or cleaning | 01:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: umm | 01:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | flip a coin | 01:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm watching football | 01:51 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am cleaning right now | 01:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont like cleaning | 01:52 |
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| mrproper | I didn't say I liked it | 01:53 |
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| mrproper | It's normally a battle for me. I do hate a dirty house or cleaning more at that moment. That's what dictates what I do. | 01:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but is it more fun than openstack? | 01:55 |
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| mrproper | Oh not at all. | 01:56 |
| mrproper | There is something mind numbing though about cleaning. | 01:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'll hopefully be back at openstack tomorrow | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure what i'm going to do though | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | still have a pile of bugs i need to vet and submit | 01:58 |
| mrproper | I am going to try to get that setup going. | 01:58 |
| mrproper | That's my goal with it at this time. Then I need to figure out what else. | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | profit? | 01:59 |
| mrproper | That's nowhere close | 02:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, i forgot the ??? step before profit | 02:00 |
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| mrproper | Apple is purchasing the company who made the first Kinect. | 02:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | huh... | 02:01 |
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| mrproper | Yeah | 02:02 |
| mrproper | I won't read into it too much | 02:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | football, bbq ribs, and beer... yum. | 02:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | just no cake :/ | 02:03 |
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| mrproper | I have apple cake | 02:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | think i might mess around with multiple tenants on different networks plus multiple VMs | 02:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i should also build a bare metal system to get rid of this slowness on 'real' vms | 02:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | although cirros mostly works for testing | 02:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | also curious about ipv6 | 02:15 |
| mrproper | That's going to happen for me sooner rather than later. | 02:16 |
| mrproper | IPv6 scares me with this :) | 02:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont hear much about it, but i cant imagine it being forgotten | 02:16 |
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| mrproper | I figure if the rest of OpenStack is a little...moody...at times, IPv6 can't be better. | 02:17 |
| Martin8412 | IPv6 is awesome | 02:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes it is | 02:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you use it with openstack? | 02:18 |
| Martin8412 | Well, I use RA | 02:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i suppose i could use that too | 02:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent done dhcpv6 yet | 02:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does neutron support ra? | 02:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | or even some form of prefix delegation | 02:20 |
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| Martin8412 | Well, with RA the client automatically receives a IPv6 address and route | 02:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | even without explicitly configuring anything? | 02:21 |
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| Martin8412 | Ye | 02:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | doesnt the neutron router have to offer RA? | 02:22 |
| Martin8412 | I don't know Neutron, but if it is a router, then it would probably have to yes | 02:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, something i need to poke at | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: do you do much with v6? | 02:26 |
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| mrproper | I do not | 02:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i havent seen much demand for it... oddly | 02:30 |
| mrproper | Not at all. | 02:31 |
| mrproper | It really should be moreso. | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | all of the major internet sites use it... google, fb, twitter, etc | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | but no one that i work with | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | i used it in production since 2003 | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | but that was also edu/research land | 02:31 |
| mrproper | It does require a whole rethinking of network architecture. People can't get application developers to use DNS entries, leave alone rethinking their entire protocol setup with v6 | 02:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | real nerds just memorize their v6 addresses :P | 02:32 |
| mrproper | I have mine memorized | 02:32 |
| mrproper | 2001:: | 02:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | a lot of folks dont want to give up nat. i noticed a lot of service providers trying to fundamentally break the end-to-end concept of v6 by forcing carrier-grade nat for their deployments | 02:32 |
| mrproper | AT&*T | 02:33 |
| mrproper | And that slays me | 02:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | and plenty others | 02:33 |
| mrproper | I'll switch ISPs if I need to to avoid that | 02:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at&t u-verse is interesting because you dont even get a pubic v4 ip | 02:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, public :) | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | although now you know what i think of at&t | 02:34 |
| mrproper | You do. | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, not where i lived | 02:34 |
| mrproper | They give you a router which does NAT for you though and you have to. | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe thats what they were doing. i never saw a public ip. | 02:34 |
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| mrproper | I have a router behind it. | 02:35 |
| mrproper | I'd love to ditch their router and go straight to mine but they don't support that under home service | 02:35 |
| mrproper | I wish I understood why people hold onto NAT so much | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | sense of security | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | also less 'waste' of public ips | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | but with v6... | 02:36 |
| mrproper | What confuses me is I'm sure AT&T has a ton of really smart people working in their environment. How is it they're making such bad decisions. | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i can assign a v6 ip to every air molecule in my house | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | at&t wants complete control over their customers | 02:37 |
| mrproper | What does NAT have to do with that though? | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | so they can block p2p and anything they can't sell | 02:37 |
| mrproper | Does that really allow them to block it? | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | it just makes it easier i'm sure | 02:37 |
| mrproper | I figure they can block it easier. Maybe more distributed. | 02:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | since it completely breaks end-to-end connectivity | 02:38 |
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| mrproper | It's a shame US Internet at home is so mediocre | 02:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yup | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm pretty happy with centurylink | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | they were also pretty good to work with when i worked for the isp | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | they actually wanted to upgrade from TDM to ethernet delivery | 02:39 |
| mrproper | I have AT&T. They're fine. I get better performance for the dollar than Comcast. | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | whereas att wanted to sell me plenty of bonded T1s and DS3s | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i get 40 mb and a /29 of publics from centurylink | 02:41 |
| Martin8412 | They can sell extra IPs at additional cost with IPv4 | 02:41 |
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| mrproper | Those have been paid off 100 times, the copper links. They're all gravy. | 02:41 |
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| afm | 50/50 fios business link to my home w/ /29 | 02:41 |
| Martin8412 | 100/100 with a /32 here | 02:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wish i could have something like fios | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wouldnt mind a bit more upload speed | 02:42 |
| Martin8412 | But I do have a /48 IPv6 through Sixxs though | 02:42 |
| mrproper | 12/512 | 02:42 |
| mrproper | I WIN | 02:42 |
| Martin8412 | Sucky :P | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | CL started offering v6 but its just a tunnel | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i still use hurricane electric | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | have been for 10 years now | 02:43 |
| Martin8412 | And I complain about 100/100 being too slow on a regular basis | 02:43 |
| mrproper | How much do you guys pay a month | 02:43 |
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| Martin8412 | $20 | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | $70 | 02:43 |
| afm | getting the straight rj45 hand off was a bit challenging… but goes straight to my switch | 02:43 |
| mrproper | $50 | 02:43 |
| mrproper | Are you guys all US? | 02:43 |
| Martin8412 | No | 02:43 |
| Martin8412 | Denmark | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: you should know $20 would never happen in the us | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | we have something called competition. | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh wait.. | 02:43 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Oh I know | 02:44 |
| Martin8412 | I just have an ethernet outlet in the wall .. | 02:44 |
| Martin8412 | No modem or such | 02:44 |
| * mrproper glares at martin | 02:44 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm moving to denmark | 02:44 |
| mrproper | Sam: Lets go | 02:44 |
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| Martin8412 | Well.. This is at a dorm ;) | 02:44 |
| mrproper | OH | 02:45 |
| afm | no modem here… f' actiontec non sense | 02:45 |
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| mrproper | I have one of those mediocre 2Wire modems | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | Martin8412: oh, thats cheating | 02:45 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I'm about to start doing the "custom" install. | 02:45 |
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| Martin8412 | Sam-I-Am: Well, the provider is providing to public residences as well | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool. i can probably help with that | 02:46 |
| mrproper | Does OpenStack support nodes which are geographically dispersed without local controllers? | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i dont see why not | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | as long as the connectivity works | 02:46 |
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| mrproper | How chatty is it | 02:46 |
| Martin8412 | 75/75 at $30 | 02:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pretty chatty | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump it sometime | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | mostly mq traffic | 02:47 |
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| Martin8412 | Sam-I-Am: I've heard your TV and celluar plans are expensive as hell :D | 02:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | i stopped paying for TV about 6 years ago | 02:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | although i do buy stuff from the internet | 02:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which.. can get rather expensive | 02:48 |
| Martin8412 | Well.. I'm forced to pay for basic TV through my rent which is about $20 a month, but I pay for Netflix instead | 02:48 |
| Martin8412 | And my celluar is about the same | 02:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wow | 02:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: you going to build an all-in-one or multinode? | 02:52 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I only have one server so not many choices | 02:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, you could make multiple VMs | 02:52 |
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| mrproper | Considering the performance I get with an all in one... | 02:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it kind of helps visualize the traffic flow better with multiple nodes | 02:53 |
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| mrproper | Yeah I know :/ | 02:53 |
| mrproper | I'll steal a VM from you ;) | 02:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | i set mine up as one controller vm, one network, one compute | 02:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | the controller and network nodes dont have much resources assigned to them | 02:54 |
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| mrproper | How hard is it for me to move from all-in-one to multi-node later? | 02:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure how the conversion works. cant imagine it being tooooo bad. | 02:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | the official openstack instructions kind of assume you have multiple nodes | 02:55 |
| mrproper | Yeah I know | 02:55 |
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| mrproper | Hmmm... | 02:55 |
| mrproper | debating | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | the unofficial ubuntu/grizzly instructions have a single-node version which might help you | 02:55 |
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| mrproper | Later when I build a full server, no choice | 02:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can ignore the ubuntu parts... the main concern is how the daemons are configured | 02:56 |
| mrproper | I'll get the base setup going tonight and rebuild later for | 02:56 |
| mrproper | multi-node | 02:56 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Either way I need to install NTP, databases, etc. | 02:59 |
| mrproper | I can get that started without another node. | 02:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yup | 02:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ooo more bug email | 02:59 |
| mrproper | ? | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | people are tending to more of my bug reports | 03:00 |
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| mrproper | Oh nice | 03:03 |
| mrproper | I want to go in and mark them as WORKSFORME | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | halftime... going to do dishes | 03:03 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Boom, Keystone setup | 03:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: wooooo | 03:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dammit broncos... | 03:35 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I need to boot my Windows machine tomorrow for work a little anyways so I'll do the compute node then | 03:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ah | 03:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keystone, glance, and nova on the controller arent too bad | 03:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | and part of neutron | 03:47 |
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| mrproper | # openstack-config --set /etc/glance/glance-api.conf keystone_authtoken \ <-- When they use this command, do I need to substitute my auth token for that phrase or do I need that literally? | 03:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | your auth token | 03:50 |
| mrproper | Damn | 03:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oops? | 03:53 |
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| mrproper | Yeah I did it literal | 03:53 |
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| mrproper | /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini <-- Does this file name make sense? | 03:56 |
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| mrproper | Turns out they do | 03:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | yup | 03:57 |
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| Sean___ | I have a question, is the only difference between openstack and AWS, is that openstack is open-source, and AWS is closed-source? | 04:06 |
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| alpharender | wth..i can't attach volumes to snapshots? | 04:06 |
| mrproper | I'd say there are a lot more. | 04:06 |
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| mrproper | Sean__: AWS is hosted and the code isn't available to put on your local servers. OpenStack allows you to make a private cloud whereas AWS is a public cloud | 04:07 |
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| alphonse23 | but function-wise, their the same thing, a cloud-base server, that sits above specific hardware and OS specifications and whatnot. where you can build a large clusters of servers through a SaaS? | 04:08 |
| alphonse23 | I'm not sure what a private cloud is, but the basic idea is the same | 04:08 |
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| mrproper | Quiet in here | 04:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | da | 04:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | my football game has turned depressing :/ | 04:20 |
| mrproper | :( | 04:21 |
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| mrproper | I have Glance and Keystone going on my controller so calling it a night. Setup a compute node tomorrow and get Nova going on both | 04:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | its all peaches until neutron heh | 04:22 |
| mrproper | I'm sure | 04:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | but hopefully the docs are better now | 04:22 |
| mrproper | So far, easy as can be | 04:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | there were some large missing sections | 04:22 |
| mrproper | Are the docs open source where I can fix them? | 04:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you submit bugs on launchpad | 04:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | theres a link at the bottom of each section | 04:23 |
| dsockwell | you could download them and fix them yourself | 04:23 |
| dsockwell | but that's less than helpful | 04:23 |
| clarkb | you can also fix them and push the fixes back | 04:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | didnt know you could do that as any old person | 04:23 |
| dsockwell | that might work | 04:23 |
| dsockwell | i dont claim to know | 04:24 |
| mrproper | clarkb: Okay that's fine, that's what I was getting at | 04:24 |
| clarkb | yes anyone that signs a CLA can do it | 04:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats good to know | 04:24 |
| clarkb | http://wiki.openstack.org has a how to contribute section | 04:24 |
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| mrproper | What's in the CLA? | 04:24 |
| mrproper | I hope I wouldn't need to clear with my employer :/ | 04:24 |
| dsockwell | you guys ever use Fuel to deploy openstack? | 04:25 |
| clarkb | mrproper it is similar to the apache foundations CLA | 04:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: no | 04:25 |
| notmyname | mrproper: mostly says you are allowed to contribute the code. no (c) assignment | 04:25 |
| clarkb | you may need to clear it with your employer, depends on your situation | 04:25 |
| mrproper | I work for a VAR | 04:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: i've just submitting bugs, usually with fixes. they get tended to pretty quivkly. | 04:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, submitted | 04:25 |
| fifieldt | #openstack-doc can help you get started if you want to fix docs :) | 04:26 |
| fifieldt | we always need more people :) | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | fifieldt: hey, i saw some email from you | 04:26 |
| dsockwell | yeah i'm involved in a new build (as of today) that's depending heavily on Fuel, but someone else is running that | 04:26 |
| fifieldt | but we do definitely appreciate bugs too | 04:26 |
| mrproper | fifieldt: The bugs seem nice, but just build up | 04:26 |
| fifieldt | so many, yes | 04:26 |
| dsockwell | so far i've learned that having money for new gear must be fantastic | 04:26 |
| fifieldt | we're actually having a bug squashing day on 20th December | 04:27 |
| mrproper | I saw that | 04:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: lol | 04:27 |
| fifieldt | I hope we can kill 100 in a day :) | 04:27 |
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| dsockwell | this is 'ok in theory we have enough hardware to build a cloud, lets do it' | 04:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe i should learn how to fix bugs | 04:27 |
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| fifieldt | I think you should, Sam-I-Am :D | 04:28 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: it's more fun writing them | 04:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent looked at the markup yet | 04:28 |
| notmyname | (an easier) | 04:28 |
| mrproper | Docbook, right? | 04:28 |
| fifieldt | writing them ... you mean adding bugs to the code notmyname ? ;) | 04:28 |
| clarkb | yes docbook | 04:28 |
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| notmyname | fifieldt: I'm very experienced at that. for a rough estimate of how many, `git blame *.py | grep notmyname | wc -l` | 04:29 |
| fifieldt | :D | 04:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 04:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i guess i could still submit the bug, then fix it myself... | 04:30 |
| dsockwell | sandbagging imo | 04:30 |
| fifieldt | then you can get shiny graphs on http://stackalytics.com/ ;) | 04:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dsockwell: that was kind of a joke. no doubt there are other ways to track fixes. | 04:31 |
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| mrproper | fifieldt: Why the drop off in commits | 04:33 |
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| fifieldt | we just started a new release ccyle | 04:33 |
| fifieldt | cycle* | 04:33 |
| fifieldt | 1st week of november was our design week - so everyone was in meetings | 04:33 |
| fifieldt | then people traditionally take a holiday | 04:33 |
| fifieldt | it will ramp up before Dec 5th | 04:34 |
| fifieldt | when milestone 1 comes out | 04:34 |
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| fifieldt | and keep ramping all the way to april 17th | 04:34 |
| fifieldt | when the next release is there | 04:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | fifieldt: i thought becoming a contributor was somewhat by invitation to keep things cleaner | 04:34 |
| fifieldt | not at all Sam-I-Am | 04:34 |
| fifieldt | we're very open | 04:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 04:34 |
| fifieldt | you can even just start randomly reviewing code, if you want :) | 04:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, i can't code, but i can fix documentation :) | 04:34 |
| fifieldt | it would be amazing if you could help | 04:35 |
| fifieldt | simple text changes are pretty straightforward if you've used git before | 04:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its been a while. | 04:35 |
| fifieldt | no dramas | 04:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | dramas? | 04:36 |
| fifieldt | the workflow makes it simpler than it can be | 04:36 |
| fifieldt | Australianism :) | 04:36 |
| * mrproper pretends he can code but can't | 04:36 | |
| fifieldt | no problems :) | 04:36 |
| * Sam-I-Am doesnt even pretend | 04:37 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've done some things in zenoss but thats about it | 04:37 |
| mrproper | fifieldt: Any idea what is coming in Icehouse? | 04:38 |
| fifieldt | mrproper, http://status.openstack.org/release/ is the best place to look so far | 04:38 |
| fifieldt | that's updated in real time | 04:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: more documentation to fix :) | 04:39 |
| * mrproper wants better error information in Icehouse :) | 04:39 | |
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| * fifieldt agrees with mrproper | 04:39 | |
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| mrproper | fifieldt: It bothers me it says "Error" with *no* information. | 04:39 |
| mrproper | Even better, an area that displays useful logs | 04:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | what, ERROR doesnt tell you enough? | 04:40 |
| fifieldt | yes, I lodged a bug on that | 04:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | pfffft | 04:40 |
| fifieldt | eg https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1241395 | 04:40 |
| fifieldt | Sam-I-Am, so you've already got a launchpad account | 04:41 |
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| mrproper | I said that bug affects me. Does that mean it will notify me of changes? | 04:41 |
| fifieldt | you should login to https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1241395 | 04:41 |
| fifieldt | depending on your launchpad settings mrproper, yes | 04:41 |
| mrproper | Okay] | 04:41 |
| fifieldt | (ususally yes) | 04:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | fifieldt: yeah, that's how i've been filing bugs | 04:42 |
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| fifieldt | you should sign in at https://review.openstack.org/ | 04:42 |
| fifieldt | the code review system | 04:42 |
| fifieldt | then have a look at what's involved with the CLA at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/agreements | 04:42 |
| fifieldt | and upload an ssh key at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ssh-keys :) | 04:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | putting that on my list of things to check out tomorrow | 04:43 |
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| fifieldt | yay :) | 04:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think this game is going into overtime... | 04:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | just what i needed | 04:44 |
| fifieldt | ouch :) | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | american football | 04:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | still sunday night here | 04:45 |
| mrproper | fifieldt: That status page, is that commited? | 04:46 |
| fifieldt | if the delivery says " Implemented " - yes | 04:46 |
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| mrproper | Oh okay | 04:46 |
| mrproper | So not all features are guaranteed, just...targeted | 04:46 |
| fifieldt | yes | 04:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | i also probably need to go through the entire install again to see how the docs are flowing... particularly if it ends with a working system | 04:47 |
| fifieldt | Sam-I-Am, that kind of testing would be wonderful | 04:47 |
| fifieldt | it's what I was running through prior to release - making the matrix at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HavanaDocTesting | 04:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats kind of what i've been doing | 04:48 |
| fifieldt | feel free to update the matrix :) | 04:48 |
| fifieldt | or anything | 04:48 |
| fifieldt | if you find something that you can't update, let me know and we'll make it more Open :) | 04:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron is getting there | 04:49 |
| fifieldt | thanks to your efforts :) | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | wouldnt consider it 'not written' | 04:49 |
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| fifieldt | oh good :) | 04:49 |
| fifieldt | please give it an update if you can | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i will when i run through the install again | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | plenty has changed since last time | 04:50 |
| fifieldt | mrproper, you can also combine that status page with the schedule (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule) to fairly easily see if things are slipping or making it | 04:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm pretty sure the big show stopper for most people trying to install neutron was 1251096 | 04:51 |
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| fifieldt | mm, yeah | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | followed by the metadata problem | 04:52 |
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| fifieldt | yeah :( | 04:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 1252521 and 1252522 | 04:53 |
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| rkeene | I hate Python. | 06:24 |
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| rkeene | This is also inconvient: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/python_keystoneclient-0.4.1-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:six>=1.4.1 /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/python_cinderclient-1.0.7-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:six>=1.4.1 /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/nova-2013.2-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:six<1.4.0 | 06:33 |
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| egm | hi all | 08:06 |
| egm | total openstack newbie here | 08:06 |
| egm | have installed using RDO | 08:07 |
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| egm | all went well now I am trying to figure out how to add a new host to the stack | 08:07 |
| egm | can anyone help please | 08:07 |
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| RaviTezu | egm: Adding a host is simple just mention the controller node address in the config files and start the services | 08:09 |
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| karan_ | Guys please help , i am completely stucked since last 3 days | 08:35 |
| karan_ | [root@rdo ~]# cinder list ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo ~]# | 08:35 |
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| karan_ | how to resolve this HTTP 401 error ????????????? | 08:35 |
| k4n0 | Are you sending the keystone auth token with the cinder api request? | 08:38 |
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| k4n0 | looks like you are using the cinder cmd client | 08:38 |
| k4n0 | have you sourced the correct env params? | 08:39 |
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| karan_ | K4n0 - yes env parameters are correct , other cli commands like nova list or glance image-list are working fine , i am facing this only with cinder related commands | 08:45 |
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| k4n0 | can you add a --debug param to the cinder command, share the outpu | 08:56 |
| k4n0 | output | 08:57 |
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| karan_ | k4n0 - http://pastebin.com/vF7c8pdN | 09:00 |
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| karan_ | k4n0 - i have shared output , please see and suggest , it would be my please if you can help me | 09:00 |
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| k4n0 | @Karan, i can see a problem, the keystone uri is Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/', but your actuall keystone node might be http://192.168.1.49:5000 , can you check the "auth_host" conf in /etc/cinder/cinde.conf | 09:06 |
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| karan_ | k4n0 - i have checked and its [root@rdo cinder]# cat cinder.conf | grep -i auth_host auth_host = 127.0.0.1 [root@rdo cinder]# | 09:10 |
| karan_ | auth_host = 127.0.0.1 | 09:10 |
| karan_ | do i need to change keystone uri OR auth_host also with what value | 09:11 |
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| k4n0 | you change both | 09:12 |
| karan_ | with what value HOSTNAME or 127.0.0.1 ??? | 09:13 |
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| k4n0 | your keystone node looks to be at 192.168.1.49, use this value | 09:15 |
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| karan_ | hello Dheerendra | 09:18 |
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| karan_ | K4n0 - please check the new details http://pastebin.com/M7rnSAhw | 09:21 |
| k4n0 | does it work now? | 09:22 |
| karan_ | i have updated auth_host and auth_port in cinder.conf | 09:22 |
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| k4n0 | restart all services and try your command with --debug again | 09:22 |
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| karan_ | NO after restarting cinder services and checking it again | 09:23 |
| karan_ | its throwing same error | 09:24 |
| karan_ | [root@rdo ~]# cinder list ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo ~]# | 09:24 |
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| k4n0 | what is the --debug output | 09:24 |
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| ammini | Well, you'd try running cinder by passing the auth values, rather than relying on the the source script (for debugging) | 09:26 |
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| karan_ | k4N0 - here is the new output http://pastebin.com/XLXjvbE4 | 09:27 |
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| k4n0 | as you can see in the debug outpu DEBUG:cinderclient.client:RESP: [401] {'date': 'Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:25:59 GMT', 'content-length': '23', 'content-type': 'text/plain', 'www-authenticate': "Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/'"} | 09:30 |
| k4n0 | your cinderclient is still trying to use 127.0.0.1 to talk to keystone | 09:30 |
| k4n0 | as @ammini mentioned, try using the auth url directly while invoking "cinder" command | 09:30 |
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| ammini | AFAIK, if you've mistyped anything while creating the services, its best you do cinder-manage to populate the correct values in the backend db. | 09:32 |
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| karan_ | k4N0 & Ammini --- [root@rdo ~]# cinder --os-auth-url=http://192.168.1.49:5000/v2.0 list ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo ~]# | 09:34 |
| karan_ | is there something wrong in this command | 09:34 |
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| ammini | karan_: Pass os-username, os-password and os-tenant as well. | 09:35 |
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| karan_ | ammini -- the --os-username and password would be or CINDER or admin | 09:38 |
| karan_ | i have different password from admin and cinder users | 09:38 |
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| karan_ | i use to open horizon web inteface using admin id and password | 09:38 |
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| karan_ | so which os_username and password to supply with cinder command ???? | 09:39 |
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| jake | hi | 09:40 |
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| karan_ | k4n0 - http://pastebin.com/G8b2PuS5 | 09:44 |
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| karan_ | ammini - http://pastebin.com/G8b2PuS5 | 09:44 |
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| dachary | Hi, is the date of the atlanta openstack summit set yet ? | 10:24 |
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| karan_ | guys please help | 10:47 |
| karan_ | [root@rdo keystone]# service openstack-keystone status keystone dead but pid file exists [root@rdo keystone]# | 10:47 |
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| RaviTezu | karan_: Anything in logs? | 10:49 |
| RaviTezu | Saying "keystone dead but pid file exists" doesn't help much | 10:50 |
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| karan_ | RaviTezu - nothing in var/log/messsages keystone.log | 10:54 |
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| RaviTezu | What is the under lying OS? | 10:54 |
| RaviTezu | CentOS? Ubuntu? | 10:55 |
| karan_ | RaviTezu - centos 6.4 RDO | 10:55 |
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| karan_ | Ravi - the wired thing is nothing in log files | 10:55 |
| RaviTezu | check /var/log/keystone/keystone.log ? | 10:56 |
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| RaviTezu | Is mysql running on the host? | 10:57 |
| RaviTezu | karan_: ^^ | 10:57 |
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| karan_ | RaviTezu _ nothing in /var/log/keystone/keystone.log no recent entries | 10:58 |
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| karan_ | yes mysql is runnig i am able to login to DB | 10:58 |
| larico | Guys, I need help installing a compute node. I'm running debian wheezy and following the official docs doesn't help => http://pastie.org/8507047 | 10:59 |
| larico | seems to be a 'driver' issue | 10:59 |
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| RaviTezu | karan_: Can you try restarting the keystone? and then check the logs? | 11:02 |
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| karan_ | Ravi-Tezu --- same error , and no new logs generated | 11:04 |
| RaviTezu | Nothing in /var/log/messages? | 11:04 |
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| larico | karan_> start your keystone with debug and verbose | 11:06 |
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| larico | don't use "service" script | 11:07 |
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| karan_ | larico --- how to do that | 11:10 |
| karan_ | can you help with command | 11:10 |
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| larico | karan_> i don't use redhat. With debian i'd do : /usr/bin/keystone-all -v -d | 11:14 |
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| karan_ | any one seen this | 12:59 |
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| karan_ | [root@rdo init.d]# service openstack-keystone status keystone dead but pid file exists [root@rdo init.d]# | 12:59 |
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| Heidistein | yes | 13:02 |
| Heidistein | that happens when keystone dies | 13:02 |
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| karan_ | Heidistin - i am struggling since hours | 13:02 |
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| karan_ | please help in troulbleshooting | 13:02 |
| Heidistein | I assume you do a 'servie keystone start'. and that its dead | 13:03 |
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| karan_ | yes services are not coming up | 13:03 |
| karan_ | it says keystone dead | 13:03 |
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| Heidistein | karan_ has it ever run, or are you trying to do a new | 13:03 |
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| karan_ | no till yesterday it was working | 13:03 |
| Heidistein | and you have checked the logfile | 13:04 |
| karan_ | nothing fresh gets captured in logs | 13:04 |
| karan_ | everything is hours old | 13:04 |
| Heidistein | set debug=True in keystine.conf | 13:04 |
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| karan_ | i done that too but no logs captured | 13:04 |
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| Heidistein | ok. What if you just run 'openstack-keystone' as proces (wiothout init) | 13:04 |
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| Madkiss | I am seeing a rather unpleassant effect with heat on Grizzly. I am starting virtual machines and my template tells Heat to automatically assign them a floating IP. | 13:05 |
| Heidistein | dang, I'm bad at typing todat | 13:05 |
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| Madkiss | The IP does show up in the Quantum L3 agent log as being associated, but then, the L3 removes it again. It remains "assigned" in the Quantum DB, though. | 13:05 |
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| Heidistein | Madkiss I have no idea, sorry... maybee openvswitch restart | 13:08 |
| Heidistein | karan_ hows it going? | 13:09 |
| karan_ | it says command not found | 13:09 |
| karan_ | [root@rdo init.d]# openstack-keystone -bash: openstack-keystone: command not found [root@rdo init.d]# | 13:09 |
| Heidistein | moment please, i'lllook up the right command | 13:09 |
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| ciao | ciao | 13:09 |
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| RaviTezu | Heidistein: What would you suggest if I ask you a better/next best guide for network node setup other than openstack documents? | 13:10 |
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| RaviTezu | I'm new to the concepts like dnsmasq, l3-agent.. in quantum. | 13:11 |
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| Heidistein | ciao karan_ the command is keystone-all | 13:11 |
| odyssey4me | is it possible to entirely remove a zone from a swift setup? | 13:12 |
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| Heidistein | RaviTezu erm, google, i used a small text document. | 13:12 |
| odyssey4me | if so, how? | 13:12 |
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| Heidistein | RaviTezu its somewhere on my desk | 13:12 |
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| RaviTezu | Heidistein: Can you please provide me the doc? | 13:12 |
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| karan_ | Heidistein - thanks something i can see | 13:13 |
| karan_ | oslo.config.cfg.ConfigFileParseError: Failed to parse /etc/keystone/keystone.conf: at /etc/keystone/keystone.conf:8, Unexpected continuation line: ' #bind_host = 0.0.0.0' | 13:13 |
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| karan_ | this is the culprit | 13:13 |
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| RaviTezu | Heidistein: Or email me? Here's my id: ravi-teja@live.in | 13:14 |
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| Heidistein | RaviTezu yes, its somewhere. | 13:14 |
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| Heidistein | RaviTezu searching | 13:14 |
| RaviTezu | Heidistein: thanks :) | 13:14 |
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| karan_ | can you check from your running cluster what is the the value of bind_host | 13:15 |
| Heidistein | karan_ yes, one moment | 13:16 |
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| Heidistein | RaviTezu https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide in combo with the official doc. Since i run havana on rhel | 13:16 |
| RaviTezu | Thanks Heidistein | 13:17 |
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| Heidistein | RaviTezu good luck. | 13:17 |
| Heidistein | RaviTezu It will work in the end! | 13:17 |
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| Heidistein | karan_ it saysbind_host = 0.0.0.0 | 13:18 |
| Heidistein | karan_ maybee something odd like windows/linux line ending | 13:18 |
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| Heidistein | karan_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119617 | 13:19 |
| Heidistein | it sais it could be a space | 13:19 |
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| karan_ | Thanks Heidistein , you are Awesome | 13:25 |
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| karan_ | my problem still not solved but you helped me moving 1 step closer | 13:26 |
| karan_ | now i am getting CRITICAL keystone [-] [Errno 98] Address already in use | 13:26 |
| karan_ | :-) | 13:26 |
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| tonix | karan_: you may need to kill the other keystone service first, before starting the init service (you may use the command "ss -tulpen" to get the one...) | 13:30 |
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| Heidistein | karan_ the netstat -lpnt command might give a clue who/what is using the address/port | 13:32 |
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| karan_ | Thanks Tonix and Heidistein - keystone now runnning | 13:38 |
| karan_ | actually i am troubleshooting cinder cli and gui since 3 days but did not able to found out | 13:38 |
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| karan_ | DEBUG:cinderclient.client:RESP: [401] {'date': 'Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:38:53 GMT', 'content-length': '23', 'content-type': 'text/plain', 'www-authenticate': "Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/'"} RESP BODY: Authentication required ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo init.d]# | 13:39 |
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| karan_ | Tonix Heidistein - any idea on this error | 13:39 |
| larico | karan_> get another job lol | 13:41 |
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| karan_ | larico - :-) i am sturggeling with this since days | 13:43 |
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| larico | karan_> yeah I see that. In fact, the title of this chan is frigthening | 13:45 |
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| larico | seems no one here is able to help anyone about anything | 13:45 |
| larico | moreover, the doc are at best incomplete, or plain wrong sometimes | 13:45 |
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| tonix | karan_: what does "ss -tln | grep :5000" report? | 13:46 |
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| tonix | also, which kind of auth do you use? env or argument based? | 13:47 |
| tonix | karan_: oh, you might want to restart the cinder services too... as keystone was off before | 13:49 |
| tonix | I hope, it is a test system, where you are working on... :-) | 13:49 |
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| Heidistein | I had this exact error when I decided to change all the IP addresses. That was stupidity. | 13:50 |
| Heidistein | it was all over the configfiles and databese and everywhere | 13:51 |
| tonix | :-) | 13:51 |
| tonix | yes, changing IPs could be a nightmare | 13:51 |
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| karan_ | tonix : Yes i am working on development system , so any thing can be done to make it work :-) , i reatarted entire openstack several times , all the services works good but still not able to run cinder cli and volume horizon gui | 14:01 |
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| karan_ | i tried using both env and parameters for cliner but not much help | 14:01 |
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| karan_ | can you suggest some more steps that i can look | 14:02 |
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| tonix | karan_: you migth need to check your endpoints/services (with "keystone service-list" and "keystone endpoint-list") | 14:04 |
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| tonix | karan_: what would you like to archive, at the end? | 14:06 |
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| karan_ | archive ? | 14:06 |
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| tonix | what is your goal | 14:07 |
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| tonix | just setting up devstack, testing openstack | 14:07 |
| tonix | ... | 14:07 |
| tonix | :-) | 14:07 |
| karan_ | my env is cent os 6.4 , RDO havana | 14:07 |
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| karan_ | tonix -- http://pastebin.com/B0epbAB9 | 14:09 |
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| tonix | karan_: your cinder endpoint seems to be :8777 (here it is :8776) | 14:11 |
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| karan_ | tonix - so where i need to change this | 14:14 |
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| tonix | karan_: I missed something, sorry, this is not the error :-) | 14:14 |
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| karan_ | OKEY | 14:15 |
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| tonix | karan_: what does "ss -tulpen | grep 8080" report? | 14:16 |
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| tonix | hmm, I got a realy strange Grizzly error... I'm able to copy the whole system on another hardware system and everything works like a charm, but on another system, nova-api sets the launched instance imediately to the ERROR state (no other errors are logged within the system). Running libvirt manually works, and glance is able to deploy the image... any ideas? | 14:22 |
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| tonix | setup is using quantum with openvswitch, VM would be launched just with a normal root disk from glance | 14:23 |
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| tonix | is there a way to enable something like "bash -x" for python? | 14:24 |
| esto | python -v | 14:25 |
| esto | python -vv | 14:25 |
| tonix | ah, thank you esto will test it | 14:25 |
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| tonix | damn it, it was just a capacity issue :-( (the flavor was to huge for the hardware) | 14:41 |
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| qingluo | hi all, i have a question about two node(controller and compute). and each just has a single NIC. how can i configure the network configures to let vms can conmunicate with controller node? | 14:42 |
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| decede | on devstack is the FLAT_INTERFACE the NIC that will route to the outside world? | 15:50 |
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| Chocobo | Is there any way from having new instances scheduled onto a node WITHOUT stoping nova-compute (or other services)? I want it up for testing, but do not want new instances started on it. | 15:51 |
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| kbringard | Chocobo: I think you can send scheduler hints with your nova boot | 16:01 |
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| larsks | Chocobo: You may also be able to "disable" the service with "nova-manage service disable ..." | 16:09 |
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| Chocobo | kbringard: Unfortunately we use dashboard so we don't really have any control over that. | 16:15 |
| Chocobo | larsks: I could try that... I wonder if I can still force an instance to start on a "disabled" compute node. | 16:16 |
| kbringard | ah, then yea, nova-manage service disable is probably your best bet | 16:16 |
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| kbringard | you just disable all the compute nodes except the one you want to force it to | 16:16 |
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| larsks | Chocobo: You could deploy your "test" node in another region (then you can explicitly use --os-region-name on the command line to boot instances on that node). | 16:19 |
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| larsks | ...but this would make it largely invisible from the web ui. | 16:19 |
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| Chocobo | larsks: that sounds like a pretty good idea. | 16:26 |
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| Chocobo | Here is what I am trying to do... I 4 compute nodes. 3 of them use an older generation processor (16 core Opteron 61xx) and the 3rd node has 64 core Opteron 63xx. I can not for the life of me figure out how to get live-migration to work between the two of them. I tried setting libvirt_cpu_model=none on both nodes but that didn't work. I would like to migrate all the instances to the 3rd node, install new processors in the older no | 16:29 |
| mnaser | Chocobo: errors? | 16:29 |
| Chocobo | It is driving me crazy... libvirt_cpu_model=none should work.. all the CPU flags are supported between the two nodes. :/ | 16:29 |
| Chocobo | mnaser: 2013-11-25 11:19:00.575 15169 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp InvalidCPUInfo: Unacceptable CPU info: CPU doesn't have compatibility. | 16:29 |
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| mnaser | Chocobo: would you have the full trace by any chance? | 16:30 |
| Chocobo | That is from nova-compute on the new node (the one I am trying to migrate to). It is almost acting like it is ignoring libvirt_cpu_model | 16:30 |
| Chocobo | sure, one second | 16:30 |
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| mnaser | also *just* in case, grep nova-compute.log for libvirt_cpu_model, nova-compute prints out all values on start up if logging is setup to debug, so you can ensure its properly set | 16:31 |
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| Chocobo | mnaser: http://pastie.org/pastes/8507717/text | 16:32 |
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| Chocobo | mnaser: It looks like it is setting it fine: 2013-11-25 11:18:17.046 15169 DEBUG nova.service [-] libvirt_cpu_model : None wait /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/service.py:205 | 16:32 |
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| Chocobo | I even tried creating a custom cpu model in cpu_map.xml that has all matching cpu flags between processor models. That failed with the same error. | 16:34 |
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| mnaser | Chocobo: there should be a line that says "Instance launched has CPU info" with a json string next to it, do you see that? | 16:34 |
| mnaser | should be before the exception is raised | 16:34 |
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| Chocobo | mnaser: 2013-11-25 11:19:00.542 INFO nova.virt.libvirt.driver [req-18c46788-3b28-4ea5-92d3-9ce887a4278a 43b2e3d7bed64bacab2f69b0cb7ce387 417de5251c804c45baabd0fa2873b43f] Instance launched has CPU info: | 16:36 |
| Chocobo | {"vendor": "AMD", "model": "acg_common", "arch": "x86_64", "features": ["3dnow", "3dnowext"], "topology": {"cores": 4, "threads": 1, "sockets": 1}} | 16:36 |
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| Chocobo | UGH! Why is it trying to use my custom CPU model? The sticking difference is that the new processor does NOT have 3dnow and 3dnowext. :/ | 16:36 |
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| mnaser | Chocobo: you could cheat.... | 16:38 |
| Chocobo | It looks like it is taking my custom cpu model, adding the flags that make it incompatible and trying to launch the instance with that even though I told it which CPU to use. | 16:39 |
| mnaser | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L4086 - comment out that and do your work if this isnt something that you need all the time | 16:39 |
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| Chocobo | mnaser: how so? edit the database, kill kvm on the old node and then a hard reboot? | 16:39 |
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| mnaser | just comment out the part where it adds the features, so feature set will be empty, comparision should go through as you say | 16:39 |
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| Chocobo | mnaser: Hrmm, that could work. I would file a bug on this but I am using grizzly. | 16:41 |
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| mnaser | Chocobo: that might be a reason.. but atleast you can make it work for now | 16:41 |
| Chocobo | mnaser: I will take a look. Thanks. | 16:42 |
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| mnaser | Chocobo: no problem, good luck | 16:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | morning guys | 16:45 |
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| mrproper | Hey salmanbaset | 16:50 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: | 16:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 16:53 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I got the 2nd node installed last night. Downloading the install.img file took like...45 minutes. | 16:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | the compute node? | 16:54 |
| mrproper | Yes | 16:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | what is install.img? | 16:54 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Question for you about the networking side in a multi-node. If I have an external and internal network, do I create another vmware network and attach the 2nd interface cards to those? | 16:54 |
| mrproper | For net install on the CentOS | 16:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ah | 16:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if this is all in vmware, yeah | 16:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | another vlan on your vswitch, add a second v eth interface to the host | 16:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | the compute-controller connection that handles instance traffic is completely internal | 16:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | the ips are merely used as gre endpoints | 16:57 |
| mrproper | I didn't setup another VLAN | 16:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | another vswitch works too | 16:58 |
| mrproper | That brings me to my next question. | 16:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | just need to isolate that connectivity | 16:58 |
| mrproper | Because the controller does the NAT, does that mean all traffic needs to pass through the controller? | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | nat happens whereever neutron is running | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | wherever br-ex is... | 16:59 |
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| dot | i am wondering why i don't get catalog in my response: http://pastebin.com/X5hLWwqX | 16:59 |
| dot | and why i am not able to authenticate for my tenant ? | 16:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | your instance traffic will go instance->compute->gre/internalnet->controller->neutronmagic->externalnet | 16:59 |
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| mrproper | So yes. The controller becomes a bottleneck huh | 17:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | dot: thats a really weird way to talk to a daemin | 17:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | dot: do you have an rc file? | 17:01 |
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| dot | this is only test environment, devstack install i am working on remote connection to this instance | 17:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | obviously it thinks the user you're authing as doesnt belong to the admin tenant | 17:01 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Is Neutron able to run on each compute node? | 17:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: it already does | 17:02 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Oh. So then it wouldn't actually be a bottleneck if Neutron is on each compute, right? | 17:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, ultimately you have multiple network nodes handling your traffic | 17:03 |
| dot | Sam-I-Am: this user belongs to demo tenant | 17:03 |
| dot | not admin tenant | 17:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dot: if you can access horizon, go to the tenant then access&security then api... and ask it to give you an rc file | 17:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | then... at the command line, 'source whateverrc' | 17:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then things like 'nova list' should work | 17:04 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Is OpenStack able to use Oracle or other DB? | 17:04 |
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| dot | Sam-I-Am: one sec | 17:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: it can support a number of DBs | 17:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its not particularly DB heavy, so oracle might be overkill | 17:04 |
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| mrproper | Of course. But if a customer has a ton of Oracle DBAs in house and they're an Oracle shop...it makes sense. | 17:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then they also have the money to make openstack talk to it :) | 17:08 |
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| jfarschman | mrproper: isn't' mysql owned by Oracle now anyway. | 17:16 |
| jfarschman | those DBAs should just learn about mysql | 17:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | you mean being destroyed by oracle? | 17:16 |
| jfarschman | I never said that. | 17:16 |
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| mrproper | jfarschman: Oh yeah it is. | 17:18 |
| mrproper | Forgot about that :) | 17:18 |
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| jfarschman | mrproper: Im pretty happy with mysql. But this is the state DB for the entire stack and as such you cannot screw it up without consequences. | 17:19 |
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| jfarschman | the decision to use a different database could mean that one of the 'experts' makes a mistake and destroys critical metadata. | 17:20 |
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| jfarschman | FWIW sticking with the mainstream makes it a lot easier to get any help in IRC as well. And everything just works better. | 17:21 |
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| mrproper | I am totally going to go destroy a mcrib | 17:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mcwhat? | 17:52 |
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| mrmcrib | ...McRib | 17:53 |
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| mrmcrib | you don't know McRibs? | 17:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, gross | 17:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | there was a simpsons episode about those | 17:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i try to avoid fast food | 17:54 |
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| mrmcrib | Sam-I-Am: Try the BBQ sauce! I'm slathered in it! | 17:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | uh | 17:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | what are you implying? | 17:55 |
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| decede | anyone remember the dhcp client name in cirros? | 17:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nope, but should be one of the running processes | 17:57 |
| mrmcrib | Sam-I-Am: ...that's one of the lines from the episode. | 17:58 |
| mrmcrib | "For Compute to use these credentials, you must edit the nova.conf configuration file:" <-- Do you read this as "Do this on compute" or do you read this as "Do this on Controller so compute can use the credentials? | 17:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrmcrib: oh, i didnt get it :/ | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | <- slo | 17:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | actually, need moarrrr coffee | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrmcrib: where are you seeing this? | 17:59 |
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| mrmcrib | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf | 18:01 |
| mrmcrib | Nova chapter, step 7 | 18:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 18:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh my, i've never seen openstack-config before | 18:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | must be a rh thing | 18:04 |
| mrmcrib | Yeah ti is. | 18:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'd just edit those config files by hand | 18:04 |
| mrmcrib | I normally do, it's faster. | 18:04 |
| mrmcrib | Regardless, I don't know which file to use. | 18:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hold on a sec... | 18:04 |
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| mrmcrib | 1254814 <-- Bitches! | 18:05 |
| mrmcrib | brb | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | so nova on the controller needs to know about the rest of the system | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | basically needs to know about keystone | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-controller.html | 18:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be easier | 18:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at this point the document is talking about nova on the controller node | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | the next step is nova on the compute node | 18:07 |
| ekarlso | Sam-I-Am: how goes your ref arch ? | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | ekarlso: kind of on hold right now | 18:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | ekarlso: too many fires at work | 18:09 |
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| ekarlso | ;p | 18:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | next step is filing the rest of the doc bugs, or doing what fifield said and just become a contributor | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | then go through the entire install guide again to see if it works | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think the big showstopper doc bugs are fixed. neutron and metadata "should" work now. | 18:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | however, i've also only looked at the deb/ubu guide | 18:11 |
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| ekarlso | ;p | 18:15 |
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| ekarlso | what hypervisor u using Sam-I-Am ? | 18:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kvm for now | 18:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but i'll need to integrate esx | 18:16 |
| ekarlso | k | 18:16 |
| ekarlso | thought of doing xen ? | 18:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | not yet | 18:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | any reason to look at it? | 18:18 |
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| BobBall | if you test it I'll find a Xen t-shirt I can send you Sam-I-Am ;) | 18:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ha | 18:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that might work | 18:25 |
| * Sam-I-Am works for t-shirts | 18:25 | |
| BobBall | hehe | 18:25 |
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| BobBall | I guess most people have enough t-shirts from the summit to last a few years... | 18:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i havent been to a summit | 18:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | trying for the one in may | 18:26 |
| BobBall | hence why you're t-shirtless! Got it! | 18:26 |
| BobBall | haha | 18:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | this assumes my company decides to roll with the concept of sddc/iaas | 18:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | its been an unexpectedly uphill battle | 18:27 |
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| Makdaam | hello | 18:30 |
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| suresh12_ | Hi, In a nova compute node which restarts, is it possible to specify the order in which existing instances are brought up? | 18:51 |
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| jkyle | morning | 18:56 |
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| jkyle | I'm haproxy to proxy the horizon dashboard. Openstack's deployed with the stackforge openstack modules. The backend apache2 server is throwing a 500 error on the request. Where can I find the logs for details onthe source of the error? | 18:57 |
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| jkyle | I tried looking in /var/log/apache2/error.log, which shows no errors. tried looking in /var/log/horizon, no logs created there. | 18:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it might be in the keystone logs | 18:58 |
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| jkyle | don't see it there | 19:01 |
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| jkyle | this happens on the initial page load, never get the login form or anything | 19:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, if nothing else apache should be logging the 500 and where it came from | 19:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if thats what served it | 19:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, maybe its pointing to the wrong place? | 19:02 |
| warik | how would i allow more security groups? (SecurityGroupLimitExceeded: Quota exceeded, too many security groups. (HTTP 413)) thanks! | 19:02 |
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| jkyle | yeah, this is what I get from haproxy. but nothing from apache: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7646391 | 19:02 |
| jkyle | this is the splash that horizon gives me: http://i.imgur.com/AFlblUQ.png | 19:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jkyle: maybe a cookie problem? | 19:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | does horizon work without haproxy? | 19:04 |
| jkyle | hm, possibly. but where might that error be shown? | 19:04 |
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| jkyle | haproxy is just a proxy. horizon _should_ work with it. | 19:04 |
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| jkyle | I've set the X-Forwarded-For headers and such. I've seen it work | 19:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah i know its just a proxy... | 19:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm just wondering if horizon itself works alone | 19:05 |
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| jkyle | it's being served via wsgi through apache2. I know the core technologies (haproxy, apache2, django, wsgi, etc) work fine in this setup | 19:07 |
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| jkyle | django has some hitches, we had to patch things in grizzly (horizon was ignoring the insecure ssl flags), but those look to be fixed in havana | 19:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, that kind of goes out of my realm :/ | 19:13 |
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| jkyle | here's the access error I get from apache | 19:18 |
| jkyle | myhost.com:80 127.0.0.1 - - [25/Nov/2013:11:17:42 -0800] "GET /horizon/ HTTP/1.1" 500 1051 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9) AppleWebKit/537.71 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0 Safari/537.71" | 19:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does that url exist? | 19:19 |
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| jkyle | it should, it's the default url for horizon | 19:19 |
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| jkyle | enabling debug in the local_settings fixes the issue. it must be due to the self-signed cert in the testing environment | 19:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sounds like a good bet | 19:38 |
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| jkyle | I thought I'd enabled the django options to allow that, but suppose if this does the trick it _is_ our testing environment. so would be a simple fix | 19:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whops | 19:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, whoops | 19:47 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I don't love how many passwords are statically set in config files. | 20:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: heh | 20:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | where else do you want them set? | 20:05 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Not sure. But if I want to change passwords it seems a little tedious. | 20:06 |
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| * Sam-I-Am found a rabbit hole | 20:09 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | one of these days i'm going to figure out why stuff randomly stops working | 20:09 |
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| jblack | cosmic rays | 20:17 |
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| adarazs | hi | 20:18 |
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| adarazs | I have a quick question: can I CTRL-C a long "keystone-manage db_sync" command without consequences? | 20:19 |
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| adarazs | and rerun it after a "keystone-manage token_flush" | 20:19 |
| adarazs | ? | 20:19 |
| swaT30 | adarazs: that just sounds scary... | 20:19 |
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| adarazs | swaT30: yup, but I started the db sync on a db that I didn't flush since a long time, and it's going since 1.5 hours :/ | 20:20 |
| adarazs | and I have no idea how long it will still last... | 20:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jblack: neutron seems to be a cosmic ray attractor | 20:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | adarazs: i thought db_sync just initially populates the db | 20:21 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Damn. I think something is wrong with my configuration, troubleshooting time! | 20:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: please wait for the next available operator | 20:22 |
| mrproper | I'm not asking you :) | 20:22 |
| adarazs | Sam-I-Am: apparently it's used for DB scheme upgrades too and that's what I'm doing (grizzly -> havana) | 20:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | adarazs: oh... ew. | 20:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything in the logs? | 20:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: heh | 20:22 |
| adarazs | but I'm not an expert in it, just trying my first upgrade ever. | 20:22 |
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| jblack | I don't know what neutron is yet | 20:24 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I will ask...in your api-paste.ini file, is filter:authtoken literally that or is the authtoken the actual token | 20:24 |
| jblack | But yeah, that's one way to detect cosmic rays. A big pile of neurons,. =) | 20:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: thats just a section header | 20:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the goodness goes below it | 20:24 |
| mrproper | So it's literal. | 20:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | literally | 20:24 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I think I figured it out. I have one section which is using internal IP addresses instead of DNS. Internal network hasn't been configured yet. | 20:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ah | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | make sure you define everything in /etc/hostsd | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | -d | 20:35 |
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| mrproper | Yeah I have it there, but not the private space | 20:36 |
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| mrproper | Problem solved | 20:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you try turning it off and then on again? | 20:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to juggle a bunch of stuff at once, one of which is trying to figure out why something that worked on friday no longer works | 20:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | and why install A which is basically a replica of install B has different things in iptables | 20:40 |
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| mrproper | Error: failure: repodata/095466e8bd3e2526ad16e2f98865e3ba7abe932a1d86843ceb129713ee87f187-filelists.sqlite.bz2 from openstack-havana: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. <-- Where did it get this filename from? | 20:41 |
| jfarschman | mrproper: that's from yum or apt. | 20:42 |
| mrproper | jfarschman: Yeah that's from yum. But that string looks very...unique | 20:42 |
| mrproper | And here we are, it's not there. | 20:43 |
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| mrproper | I'm updating the packages, see if that fixes it | 20:43 |
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| jfarschman | mrproper: I'm not using red hat anymore, but this seems like a job for 'yum clean all' | 20:44 |
| mrproper | I'll upgrade first, then see if that fixes. Otherwise I'll use that comman.d | 20:45 |
| * mrproper is excited to get to Neutron setup. He figures that will go smoothly! | 20:45 | |
| Sam-I-Am | so install A has a virbr0, install B does not | 20:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | install A does not work, install B works | 20:46 |
| * Sam-I-Am slams head on desk | 20:46 | |
| jfarschman | Seems like you may need virtual bridge | 20:47 |
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| Chocobo | Alright... I am having an odd problem. I have three dhcp-agents running. My guests can get an IP when agents 1 and 3 are running, but not agents 1,2, and 3. There does not appear to be any errors in the dnsmasq log file :/ | 20:48 |
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| jfarschman | chocobo: three dirrfeent agents on three different network nodes? | 20:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and then as if by magic, install A starts working again | 20:58 |
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| jfarschman | chocobo: I have this magic line for watch br100 for DHCP | 20:59 |
| jfarschman | tcpdump -lenx -i br100 -s 1500 port bootps or port bootpc | 20:59 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Sooooo...do I start with nova-net or do I go directly to Neutron? | 21:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, neutron is The Way | 21:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | might as well begin the head-banging now | 21:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll start the vodka IV | 21:01 |
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| Chocobo | jfarschman: yes sorry... three different agents on three different nodes. The strange thing is, all the logs look like fine. | 21:03 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I will see how much I hate Neutron setup :) | 21:03 |
| jfarschman | chocobo: no duplicated IPs for the listen address or anything. I had a problem with that last week. | 21:03 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Do I require Neutron or Nova-net on the compute node to run a nova image-list command? | 21:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: some of my bugs didnt post to the docs yet. it will break, but i can help. | 21:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you probably wont run any commands on the compute node | 21:06 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am just asking since I can't run a nova image-list command on compute1 yet | 21:06 |
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| mrproper | Oh okay | 21:06 |
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| mrproper | How do I verify functionality without actually using it then | 21:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should work though once nova there knows about nova on the controller, and you're using the right creds | 21:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | try 'nova service-list' on the controller | 21:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and nova hypervisor-list | 21:08 |
| Chocobo | jfarschman: What do you mean by duplicated IPs for the listen address? I don't see any config options for that. It looks like they are listening on tap interfaces (all different names/ips) in namespaces. | 21:08 |
| mrproper | Yeah not listing anything | 21:08 |
| mrproper | Well, it lists for service-list, but only local | 21:08 |
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| jfarschman | ps -ef |grep dnsmaq and check the listen address. | 21:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: so its teh brox0rs :/ | 21:09 |
| jfarschman | I'm probably wrong. Problem is I'm troubleshooting an Oracle server right now. and that's rotting my brain. | 21:09 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: But, at this point, I haven't enabled nova-net or Neutron | 21:09 |
| * Sam-I-Am moves the vodka IV to jfarschman | 21:09 | |
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| jfarschman | thanks you Sam-I-Am | 21:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: the nova compute stuff should still check in with the controller if thats configured right... i think | 21:09 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Well, it isn't :/ | 21:10 |
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| Chocobo | jfarschman: dnsmasq --no-hosts --no-resolv --strict-order --bind-interfaces --interface=tap96684f76-15 --except-interface=lo --pid-file=/var/lib/quantum/dhcp/d9f50a6e-df43-4731-baf3-9eb5d30a4962/pid --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/lib/quantum/dhcp/d9f50a6e-df43-4731-baf3-9eb5d30a4962/host --dhcp-optsfile=/var/lib/quantum/dhcp/d9f50a6e-df43-4731-baf3-9eb5d30a4962/opts --dhcp-script=/usr/bin/quantum-dhcp-agent-dnsmasq-lease-update --leasefile-ro -- | 21:10 |
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| Chocobo | I don't see any listen address, probably because the interface is inside the namespace? | 21:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: ok, so just move your rc file to the compute node, load it, and try to run some nova commands | 21:10 |
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| jfarschman | Chocobo: Sorry, I'm not a Neutron guy. I'm gonna let you guys figure that out then I'll ask yo for help ;) | 21:11 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: That's what I did, and that's what is timing out | 21:11 |
| mrproper | No route to host | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | so it can't find the ip you provided of your controller | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | or its firewalled | 21:11 |
| mrproper | BUT it does ping the controller address | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you open mysql to listen beyond localhost? | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | 3306 | 21:12 |
| mrproper | It's bound to 192.168.15.21 | 21:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | tcpdump time... figure out what the compute node is trying to do and what it can't get to | 21:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | unless the logs provide more info | 21:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | they should... | 21:13 |
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| mrproper | 2013-11-25 15:13:44.172 21633 ERROR nova.openstack.common.rpc.impl_qpid [req-81bc4ead-5a63-4cb5-b4da-f80f71096303 None None] Unable to connect to AMQP server: [Errno 113] EHOSTUNREACH. Sleeping 60 seconds | 21:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so rabbit can't reach the controller | 21:14 |
| mrproper | Exactly | 21:14 |
| mrproper | But does that require OpenVSwitch | 21:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | or qpid or whatever you're using | 21:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | no | 21:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rabbit is the cardiovascular system for openstack, per se | 21:14 |
| mrproper | qpid here | 21:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | everything talks through it | 21:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | is nova trying to reach rabbit or qpid? | 21:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | they have different config directives | 21:15 |
| mrproper | I'm using quid. I don't think I ever specified rabbit | 21:15 |
| mrproper | rpc_backend=nova.openstack.common.rpc.impl_qpid | 21:15 |
| mrproper | qpid_hostname=controller | 21:15 |
| mrproper | my_ip=10.1.1.2 | 21:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can it see whatever is on the other side? | 21:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | .1 ? | 21:16 |
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| mrproper | Via ping? Yes | 21:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can it telnet to the qpid port? | 21:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | does it know what 'controller' is? | 21:17 |
| mrproper | Yes for the 2nd | 21:17 |
| mrproper | I'm trying to start messagebus and I don't think it's working | 21:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so i think the compute node talks to the controller on the openstack mgmt network, which isnt the same as the private network for instance traffic | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure how much it matters, but thats how i did it | 21:18 |
| mrproper | Is the mgmt network the "external" | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you only have two networks, the yes | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | then | 21:18 |
| mrproper | Yes, okay | 21:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i have mgmt, external, and pvt | 21:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i also have a separate network node | 21:19 |
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| mrproper | [root@compute1 network-scripts]# telnet 192.168.15.21 | 21:20 |
| mrproper | Trying 192.168.15.21... | 21:20 |
| mrproper | telnet: connect to address 192.168.15.21: No route to host | 21:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | routing problem? | 21:20 |
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| mrproper | Sure, maybe. I'm confused why because it pings. | 21:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, well first telnet probably isnt running | 21:22 |
| mrproper | I know | 21:22 |
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| mrproper | But I also tried the qpid port | 21:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | firewall? | 21:22 |
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| mrproper | Both INPUT and FORWARD have an accept any any | 21:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | qpid not listening on outside interface? | 21:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | netstat -an | grep LISTEN | 21:23 |
| mrproper | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5672 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN | 21:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | telnet from the controller to qpid there work? | 21:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is your compute node also on the 192 network or just 10? | 21:24 |
| mrproper | http://pastebin.com/q1ZWbqfA | 21:24 |
| mrproper | My compute node is on both | 21:24 |
| mrproper | Hmmm | 21:25 |
| mrproper | I may see | 21:25 |
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| mrproper | Looks like I'm missing a default route on my controller | 21:25 |
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| mrproper | That didn't solve it. But I can now install telnet | 21:27 |
| mrproper | Yes I can telnet locally using telnet 192.168.15.21 5672 | 21:27 |
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| mrproper | 192.168.15.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 <-- Does this look right? | 21:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for the local network attached to eth0 yes | 21:29 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I posted my ipchains table on the controller | 21:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah thats a firewall | 21:32 |
| mrproper | :) | 21:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | try service iptables stop | 21:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then check connectivity | 21:32 |
| mrproper | Got it | 21:32 |
| mrproper | I can telnet when it's off. | 21:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | did the guide explain editing the firewall rules? | 21:32 |
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| mrproper | Not at all. | 21:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think EL has one enabled by default, whereas ubnt/deb do not | 21:33 |
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| mrproper | Does iptables allow me to see hit counters, similar to a Cisco ACL? | 21:33 |
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| mrproper | I found the hit counters, but it doesn't seem to be helping. | 21:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah it does | 21:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | what are you trying to do? | 21:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so far i dont see a lot of discussion about the firewall in the EL config guide | 21:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd just flush all the rules for now | 21:35 |
| mrproper | I want to see what firewall rule is breaking this. However they're all incrementing every time I refresh. | 21:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its the one only allowing outbound connectivity to initiate and return packets back in | 21:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so there's 2-3 rules for that | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | iptables really sucks imho :/ | 21:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i much prefer the human-readable PF | 21:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | linux is getting a new firewall that sucks equally as hard | 21:40 |
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| mrproper | Yeah people seem to like PF a lot | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | easy solution... kill it now and take names later | 21:40 |
| joshh | iptables-save is readable | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres plenty of ports required by openstack | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can firewall them later | 21:40 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Sure. I'm just kind of curious about this. | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | understood :) | 21:41 |
| mrproper | 15:40:14.139831 IP compute1.48386 > controller.amqp: Flags [S], seq 2227916081, win 14600, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 24678968 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0 | 21:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so thats a syn packet | 21:41 |
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| mrproper | Yeah | 21:42 |
| mrproper | That's from my compute1 | 21:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | brb phone | 21:42 |
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| mrproper | I killed iptables and sure enough, the compute1 node registers | 21:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 21:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | my guess is there's a rst coming back, or an icmp message | 21:45 |
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| Beth | hi | 21:48 |
| calccrypto | Hello | 21:48 |
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| joshh | mrproper: iptables-save and pastebin it | 21:50 |
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| mrproper | http://pastebin.com/Mr6gkyvP | 21:51 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf <-- Page 59, does this imply I need to spin up another server for the network node? | 21:52 |
| joshh | hmm, all policy accepts | 21:52 |
| mattt_ | Hello | 21:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yes | 21:53 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Blech. | 21:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so here's your choices | 21:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its overall easier to have 3 nodes because thats how the docs describe it | 21:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, rdo runs on a single node | 21:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | and you have a working ver of that | 21:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... you could try to collapse the controller and network nodes based on the rdo config files | 21:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | i tried this at first and things blew up, but the docs were also badly broken. now i think i can make it work. | 21:55 |
| mrproper | I may just setup another node just for fun. | 21:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | its easier to troubleshoot with 3 nodes | 21:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | especially at first | 21:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | packet flows are more obvious | 21:55 |
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| mrproper | Going with another install. Thank god for CentOS | 22:07 |
| mrproper | I mean PXE | 22:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 22:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent pxebooted cent yet | 22:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its on that hugely long list of things | 22:08 |
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| jfarschman | mrproper: Im supposed to be building our company a PXE system | 22:08 |
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| joshh | how do places without pxe actually function? | 22:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i have pxe doing everything else except cent | 22:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | the docs were not straightforward | 22:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | of course, no pxe docs are | 22:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | stresslinux was a nasty one to do | 22:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: is it all working yet? | 22:31 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Still installing CentOS | 22:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm filing a docs bug against rdo re: ovs | 22:34 |
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| mrproper | Mine are getting quick responses, at least assigned as In Progress. | 22:36 |
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| sputnik13 | does anyone use the puppetlabs' openstack modules? | 22:37 |
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| jfarschman | sputnik13: Im starting to look at them. But not using them yet. | 22:38 |
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| sputnik13 | I'm confused as to whether I should be using puppet-openstack | 22:39 |
| sputnik13 | puppet forge says it's going to be deprecated, but the git page has no such disclaimer | 22:39 |
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| jfarschman | I cannot remember which I started looking at. | 22:40 |
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| jfarschman | sputnik13: If I recall properly, the puppet forge page is challenged by versioning difficulties. Git can easily manage this. I'd work with git. | 22:44 |
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| sputnik13 | jfarschman: thanks, I'm doing exactly that, but I'm just thinking I don't want to invest time in using a module that's going to be deprecated | 22:45 |
| jfarschman | I think it's just the perticular version on puppet forge. | 22:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | amazing how much time it takes to file one bug :/ | 22:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | gotta make sure everything is concise and reproducable | 22:47 |
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| mrproper | My bugs were quick since they were minor. | 22:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034476 | 22:53 |
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| mrproper | Nice report | 22:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thx | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | had to go test everything too | 22:54 |
| mrproper | I have been submitting my docs ones to launchpad | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | for rdo? | 22:55 |
| mrproper | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf | 22:55 |
| mrproper | For that | 22:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh yeah | 22:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats all lp, with a convenient link at the bottom of every page | 22:56 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Okay *finally* installing Neutron | 23:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | woohoo! | 23:01 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: When I am configuring Neutron there is a line which is local_ip for the IP address for GRE tunnel termination. It is supposedly on the data network. Is that the "internal" network? | 23:32 |
| datamatic | oh hello all. | 23:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yeah | 23:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: the one that passes your instance traffic between the compute nodes and network node | 23:34 |
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| mrproper | Then I'll assume that's internal. | 23:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 23:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you go with the three-network structure? | 23:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | with your fancy new network node and all | 23:36 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Shit...lost my connectivity :/ | 23:39 |
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| mrproper | Yeah. I have a management interface. | 23:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what did you run? | 23:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | an ovs command? | 23:41 |
| mrproper | I ran a network restart | 23:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | after what? | 23:41 |
| mrproper | Just to confirm, in this setup, my br-ex on the network node takes the IP address right? | 23:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | only two interfaces on it? | 23:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | on mine i have a third interface for br-ex... nothing else is on it. | 23:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | so network 1 = mgmt network 2 = data network network 3 = br-ext | 23:43 |
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| mrproper | Three interfaces | 23:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 23:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a better diagram here: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 23:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and i did post a bug recommending better diagrams in the official docs | 23:44 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Okay I am having a problem, need your help here. | 23:51 |
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| mrproper | I have eth0 bound to br-ex. However, I don't have bridge-utils installed (thanks docs) so I cannot do bridging. | 23:52 |
| mrproper | I need to do the install, but can't get to the internet. | 23:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so put it back, download bridge-utils, and then... ? | 23:53 |
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| mrproper | I did, but it's still not happening | 23:54 |
| mrproper | Can't ping my real gateway | 23:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you add the default route back? | 23:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and what ip is it pinging from | 23:54 |
| mrproper | It does have a default route | 23:54 |
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| mrproper | 192.168.15.20 | 23:55 |
| mrproper | Destination host unreachable | 23:55 |
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| mrproper | I did bind eth0 to br-ex | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | so this network node has 2 nics? | 23:56 |
| mrproper | It actually has 3. | 23:56 |
| mrproper | External, Internal, Mgmt | 23:57 |
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| Gamekiller77 | any one here good with horizon got a funny error that not pointing me to anything | 23:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok. so br-ex should be attached to an interface with no ip, but lives on the network which provides internet connectivity | 23:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: check the logs... horizon is a bit vague | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: what were you trying to do | 23:58 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I used to have it that way, but it wasn't right | 23:58 |
| mrproper | Well, wasn't working. | 23:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i would have the mgmt int as 192.whatever, data network as 10.whatever, and br-ex pointing to the unnumbered interface | 23:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what wasnt working? | 23:58 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Are you saying get rid of eth2? | 23:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is eth2 the 'external' nic? | 23:59 |
| mrproper | No | 23:59 |
| mrproper | eth2 is... | 23:59 |
| mrproper | internal | 23:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh | 23:59 |
| mrproper | By the way, br-ex can't come up without brctl which is what I'm trying to install bridge-utils for | 23:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 23:59 |
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