Monday, 2013-11-25

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mrproperSam-I-Am: I'm debating what I want to do. OpenStack or cleaning01:21
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: umm01:49
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Sam-I-Amflip a coin01:50
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Sam-I-Ami'm watching football01:51
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I am cleaning right now01:51
Sam-I-Ami dont like cleaning01:52
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mrproperI didn't say I liked it01:53
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mrproperIt's normally a battle for me. I do hate a dirty house or cleaning more at that moment. That's what dictates what I do.01:54
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Sam-I-Ambut is it more fun than openstack?01:55
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mrproperOh not at all.01:56
mrproperThere is something mind numbing though about cleaning.01:56
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Sam-I-Ami'll hopefully be back at openstack tomorrow01:58
Sam-I-Amnot sure what i'm going to do though01:58
Sam-I-Amstill have a pile of bugs i need to vet and submit01:58
mrproperI am going to try to get that setup going.01:58
mrproperThat's my goal with it at this time. Then I need to figure out what else.01:58
Sam-I-Amprofit?01:59
mrproperThat's nowhere close02:00
Sam-I-Amoh, i forgot the ??? step before profit02:00
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mrproperApple is purchasing the company who made the first Kinect.02:01
Sam-I-Amhuh...02:01
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mrproperYeah02:02
mrproperI won't read into it too much02:02
Sam-I-Amfootball, bbq ribs, and beer... yum.02:03
Sam-I-Amjust no cake :/02:03
* mrproper grins02:03
mrproperI have apple cake02:03
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Sam-I-Amthink i might mess around with multiple tenants on different networks plus multiple VMs02:15
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Sam-I-Ami should also build a bare metal system to get rid of this slowness on 'real' vms02:15
Sam-I-Amalthough cirros mostly works for testing02:15
Sam-I-Amalso curious about ipv602:15
mrproperThat's going to happen for me sooner rather than later.02:16
mrproperIPv6 scares me with this :)02:16
Sam-I-Ami dont hear much about it, but i cant imagine it being forgotten02:16
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mrproperI figure if the rest of OpenStack is a little...moody...at times, IPv6 can't be better.02:17
Martin8412IPv6 is awesome02:17
Sam-I-Amyes it is02:18
Sam-I-Amdo you use it with openstack?02:18
Martin8412Well, I use RA02:18
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Sam-I-Ami suppose i could use that too02:19
Sam-I-Ami havent done dhcpv6 yet02:19
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Sam-I-Amdoes neutron support ra?02:19
Sam-I-Amor even some form of prefix delegation02:20
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Martin8412Well, with RA the client automatically receives a IPv6 address and route02:20
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Sam-I-Ameven without explicitly configuring anything?02:21
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Martin8412Ye02:21
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Sam-I-Amdoesnt the neutron router have to offer RA?02:22
Martin8412I don't know Neutron, but if it is a router, then it would probably have to yes02:22
Sam-I-Amhmm, something i need to poke at02:24
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: do you do much with v6?02:26
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mrproperI do not02:30
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Sam-I-Ami havent seen much demand for it... oddly02:30
mrproperNot at all.02:31
mrproperIt really should be moreso.02:31
Sam-I-Amall of the major internet sites use it... google, fb, twitter, etc02:31
Sam-I-Ambut no one that i work with02:31
Sam-I-Ami used it in production since 200302:31
Sam-I-Ambut that was also edu/research land02:31
mrproperIt does require a whole rethinking of network architecture. People can't get application developers to use DNS entries, leave alone rethinking their entire protocol setup with v602:31
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Sam-I-Amreal nerds just memorize their v6 addresses :P02:32
mrproperI have mine memorized02:32
mrproper2001::02:32
Sam-I-Ama lot of folks dont want to give up nat.  i noticed a lot of service providers trying to fundamentally break the end-to-end concept of v6 by forcing carrier-grade nat for their deployments02:32
mrproperAT&*T02:33
mrproperAnd that slays me02:33
Sam-I-Amand plenty others02:33
mrproperI'll switch ISPs if I need to to avoid that02:33
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Sam-I-Amat&t u-verse is interesting because you dont even get a pubic v4 ip02:33
Sam-I-Amer, public :)02:34
Sam-I-Amalthough now you know what i think of at&t02:34
mrproperYou do.02:34
Sam-I-Amoh, not where i lived02:34
mrproperThey give you a router which does NAT for you though and you have to.02:34
Sam-I-Ammaybe thats what they were doing.  i never saw a public ip.02:34
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mrproperI have a router behind it.02:35
mrproperI'd love to ditch their router and go straight to mine but they don't support that under home service02:35
mrproperI wish I understood why people hold onto NAT so much02:35
Sam-I-Amsense of security02:35
Sam-I-Amalso less 'waste' of public ips02:36
Sam-I-Ambut with v6...02:36
mrproperWhat confuses me is I'm sure AT&T has a ton of really smart people working in their environment. How is it they're making such bad decisions.02:36
Sam-I-Ami can assign a v6 ip to every air molecule in my house02:36
Sam-I-Amat&t wants complete control over their customers02:37
mrproperWhat does NAT have to do with that though?02:37
Sam-I-Amso they can block p2p and anything they can't sell02:37
mrproperDoes that really allow them to block it?02:37
Sam-I-Amit just makes it easier i'm sure02:37
mrproperI figure they can block it easier. Maybe more distributed.02:38
Sam-I-Amsince it completely breaks end-to-end connectivity02:38
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mrproperIt's a shame US Internet at home is so mediocre02:38
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Sam-I-Amyup02:39
Sam-I-Ami'm pretty happy with centurylink02:39
Sam-I-Amthey were also pretty good to work with when i worked for the isp02:39
Sam-I-Amthey actually wanted to upgrade from TDM to ethernet delivery02:39
mrproperI have AT&T. They're fine. I get better performance for the dollar than Comcast.02:39
Sam-I-Amwhereas att wanted to sell me plenty of bonded T1s and DS3s02:40
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Sam-I-Ami get 40 mb and a /29 of publics from centurylink02:41
Martin8412They can sell extra IPs at additional cost with IPv402:41
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mrproperThose have been paid off 100 times, the copper links. They're all gravy.02:41
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afm50/50 fios business link to my home w/ /2902:41
Martin8412100/100 with a /32 here02:41
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Sam-I-Ami wish i could have something like fios02:41
Sam-I-Ami wouldnt mind a bit more upload speed02:42
Martin8412But I do have a /48 IPv6 through Sixxs though02:42
mrproper12/51202:42
mrproperI WIN02:42
Martin8412Sucky :P02:42
Sam-I-AmCL started offering v6 but its just a tunnel02:42
Sam-I-Amso i still use hurricane electric02:42
Sam-I-Amhave been for 10 years now02:43
Martin8412And I complain about 100/100 being too slow on a regular basis02:43
mrproperHow much do you guys pay a month02:43
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Martin8412$2002:43
Sam-I-Am$7002:43
afmgetting the straight rj45 hand off was a bit challengingā€¦ but goes straight to my switch02:43
mrproper$5002:43
mrproperAre you guys all US?02:43
Martin8412No02:43
Martin8412Denmark02:43
Sam-I-Ammrproper: you should know $20 would never happen in the us02:43
Sam-I-Amwe have something called competition.02:43
Sam-I-Amoh wait..02:43
mrproperSam-I-Am: Oh I know02:44
Martin8412I just have an ethernet outlet in the wall ..02:44
Martin8412No modem or such02:44
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Sam-I-Ami'm moving to denmark02:44
mrproperSam: Lets go02:44
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Martin8412Well.. This is at a dorm ;)02:44
mrproperOH02:45
afmno modem hereā€¦ f' actiontec non sense02:45
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mrproperI have one of those mediocre 2Wire modems02:45
Sam-I-AmMartin8412: oh, thats cheating02:45
mrproperSam-I-Am: I'm about to start doing the "custom" install.02:45
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Martin8412Sam-I-Am: Well, the provider is providing to public residences as well02:46
Sam-I-Amcool.  i can probably help with that02:46
mrproperDoes OpenStack support nodes which are geographically dispersed without local controllers?02:46
Sam-I-Ammrproper: i dont see why not02:46
Sam-I-Amas long as the connectivity works02:46
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mrproperHow chatty is it02:46
Martin841275/75 at $3002:46
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Sam-I-Ampretty chatty02:47
Sam-I-Amtcpdump it sometime02:47
Sam-I-Ammostly mq traffic02:47
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Martin8412Sam-I-Am: I've heard your TV and celluar plans are expensive as hell :D02:47
Sam-I-Amyeah02:48
Sam-I-Ami stopped paying for TV about 6 years ago02:48
Sam-I-Amalthough i do buy stuff from the internet02:48
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Sam-I-Amwhich.. can get rather expensive02:48
Martin8412Well.. I'm forced to pay for basic TV through my rent which is about $20 a month, but I pay for Netflix instead02:48
Martin8412And my celluar is about the same02:49
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Sam-I-Amwow02:50
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: you going to build an all-in-one or multinode?02:52
mrproperSam-I-Am: I only have one server so not many choices02:52
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Sam-I-Amwell, you could make multiple VMs02:52
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mrproperConsidering the performance I get with an all in one...02:52
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Sam-I-Amit kind of helps visualize the traffic flow better with multiple nodes02:53
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mrproperYeah I know :/02:53
mrproperI'll steal a VM from you ;)02:53
Sam-I-Ami set mine up as one controller vm, one network, one compute02:53
Sam-I-Amthe controller and network nodes dont have much resources assigned to them02:54
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mrproperHow hard is it for me to move from all-in-one to multi-node later?02:54
Sam-I-Amnot sure how the conversion works.  cant imagine it being tooooo bad.02:54
Sam-I-Amthe official openstack instructions kind of assume you have multiple nodes02:55
mrproperYeah I know02:55
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mrproperHmmm...02:55
mrproperdebating02:55
Sam-I-Amthe unofficial ubuntu/grizzly instructions have a single-node version which might help you02:55
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mrproperLater when I build a full server, no choice02:56
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Sam-I-Amyou can ignore the ubuntu parts... the main concern is how the daemons are configured02:56
mrproperI'll get the base setup going tonight and rebuild later for02:56
mrpropermulti-node02:56
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Either way I need to install NTP, databases, etc.02:59
mrproperI can get that started without another node.02:59
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Sam-I-Amyup02:59
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Sam-I-Amooo more bug email02:59
mrproper?03:00
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Sam-I-Ampeople are tending to more of my bug reports03:00
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mrproperOh nice03:03
mrproperI want to go in and mark them as WORKSFORME03:03
Sam-I-Amlol03:03
Sam-I-Amhalftime... going to do dishes03:03
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Sam-I-Ammmm03:16
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Boom, Keystone setup03:28
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: wooooo03:33
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Sam-I-Amdammit broncos...03:35
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I need to boot my Windows machine tomorrow for work a little anyways so I'll do the compute node then03:43
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Sam-I-Amkeystone, glance, and nova on the controller arent too bad03:47
Sam-I-Amand part of neutron03:47
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mrproper# openstack-config --set /etc/glance/glance-api.conf keystone_authtoken \ <-- When they use this command, do I need to substitute my auth token for that phrase or do I need that literally?03:50
Sam-I-Amyour auth token03:50
mrproperDamn03:51
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Sam-I-Amoops?03:53
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mrproperYeah I did it literal03:53
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Sam-I-Amwhoops03:55
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mrproper /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini <-- Does this file name make sense?03:56
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mrproperTurns out they do03:57
Sam-I-Amyup03:57
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Sean___I have a question, is the only difference between openstack and AWS, is that openstack is open-source, and AWS is closed-source?04:06
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alpharenderwth..i can't attach volumes to snapshots?04:06
mrproperI'd say there are a lot more.04:06
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mrproperSean__: AWS is hosted and the code isn't available to put on your local servers. OpenStack allows you to make a private cloud whereas AWS is a public cloud04:07
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alphonse23but function-wise, their the same thing, a cloud-base server, that sits above specific hardware and OS specifications and whatnot. where you can build a large clusters of servers through a SaaS?04:08
alphonse23I'm not sure what a private cloud is, but the basic idea is the same04:08
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mrproperQuiet in here04:20
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Sam-I-Amda04:20
Sam-I-Ammy football game has turned depressing :/04:20
mrproper:(04:21
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mrproperI have Glance and Keystone going on my controller so calling it a night. Setup a compute node tomorrow and get Nova going on both04:22
Sam-I-Amits all peaches until neutron heh04:22
mrproperI'm sure04:22
Sam-I-Ambut hopefully the docs are better now04:22
mrproperSo far, easy as can be04:22
Sam-I-Amthere were some large missing sections04:22
mrproperAre the docs open source where I can fix them?04:22
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Sam-I-Amyou submit bugs on launchpad04:23
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Sam-I-Amtheres a link at the bottom of each section04:23
dsockwellyou could download them and fix them yourself04:23
dsockwellbut that's less than helpful04:23
clarkbyou can also fix them and push the fixes back04:23
Sam-I-Amdidnt know you could do that as any old person04:23
dsockwellthat might work04:23
dsockwelli dont claim to know04:24
mrproperclarkb: Okay that's fine, that's what I was getting at04:24
clarkbyes anyone that signs a CLA can do it04:24
Sam-I-Amthats good to know04:24
clarkbhttp://wiki.openstack.org has a how to contribute section04:24
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mrproperWhat's in the CLA?04:24
mrproperI hope I wouldn't need to clear with my employer :/04:24
dsockwellyou guys ever use Fuel to deploy openstack?04:25
clarkbmrproper it is similar to the apache foundations CLA04:25
Sam-I-Amdsockwell: no04:25
notmynamemrproper: mostly says you are allowed to contribute the code. no (c) assignment04:25
clarkbyou may need to clear it with your employer, depends on your situation04:25
mrproperI work for a VAR04:25
Sam-I-Amdsockwell: i've just submitting bugs, usually with fixes. they get tended to pretty quivkly.04:25
Sam-I-Amer, submitted04:25
fifieldt#openstack-doc can help you get started if you want to fix docs :)04:26
fifieldtwe always need more people :)04:26
Sam-I-Amfifieldt: hey, i saw some email from you04:26
dsockwellyeah i'm involved in a new build (as of today) that's depending heavily on Fuel, but someone else is running that04:26
fifieldtbut we do definitely appreciate bugs too04:26
mrproperfifieldt: The bugs seem nice, but just build up04:26
fifieldtso many, yes04:26
dsockwellso far i've learned that having money for new gear must be fantastic04:26
fifieldtwe're actually having a bug squashing day on 20th December04:27
mrproperI saw that04:27
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Sam-I-Amdsockwell: lol04:27
fifieldtI hope we can kill 100 in a day :)04:27
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dsockwellthis is 'ok in theory we have enough hardware to build a cloud, lets do it'04:27
Sam-I-Ammaybe i should learn how to fix bugs04:27
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fifieldtI think you should, Sam-I-Am :D04:28
notmynameSam-I-Am: it's more fun writing them04:28
Sam-I-Ami havent looked at the markup yet04:28
notmyname(an easier)04:28
mrproperDocbook, right?04:28
fifieldtwriting them ... you mean adding bugs to the code notmyname ?  ;)04:28
clarkbyes docbook04:28
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notmynamefifieldt: I'm very experienced at that. for a rough estimate of how many, `git blame *.py | grep notmyname | wc -l`04:29
fifieldt:D04:29
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Sam-I-Amheh04:29
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Sam-I-Ami guess i could still submit the bug, then fix it myself...04:30
dsockwellsandbagging imo04:30
fifieldtthen you can get shiny graphs on http://stackalytics.com/ ;)04:30
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Sam-I-Amdsockwell: that was kind of a joke.  no doubt there are other ways to track fixes.04:31
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mrproperfifieldt: Why the drop off in commits04:33
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fifieldtwe just started a new release ccyle04:33
fifieldtcycle*04:33
fifieldt1st week of november was our design week - so everyone was in meetings04:33
fifieldtthen people traditionally take a holiday04:33
fifieldtit will ramp up before Dec 5th04:34
fifieldtwhen milestone 1 comes out04:34
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fifieldtand keep ramping all the way to april 17th04:34
fifieldtwhen the next release is there04:34
Sam-I-Amfifieldt: i thought becoming a contributor was somewhat by invitation to keep things cleaner04:34
fifieldtnot at all Sam-I-Am04:34
fifieldtwe're very open04:34
Sam-I-Amcool04:34
fifieldtyou can even just start randomly reviewing code, if you want :)04:34
Sam-I-Amwell, i can't code, but i can fix documentation :)04:34
fifieldtit would be amazing if you could help04:35
fifieldtsimple text changes are pretty straightforward if you've used git before04:35
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Sam-I-Amits been a while.04:35
fifieldtno dramas04:35
Sam-I-Amdramas?04:36
fifieldtthe workflow makes it simpler than it can be04:36
fifieldtAustralianism :)04:36
* mrproper pretends he can code but can't04:36
fifieldtno problems :)04:36
* Sam-I-Am doesnt even pretend04:37
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Sam-I-Ami've done some things in zenoss but thats about it04:37
mrproperfifieldt: Any idea what is coming in Icehouse?04:38
fifieldtmrproper, http://status.openstack.org/release/ is the best place to look so far04:38
fifieldtthat's updated in real time04:38
Sam-I-Ammrproper: more documentation to fix :)04:39
* mrproper wants better error information in Icehouse :)04:39
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* fifieldt agrees with mrproper04:39
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mrproperfifieldt: It bothers me it says "Error" with *no* information.04:39
mrproperEven better, an area that displays useful logs04:40
Sam-I-Amwhat, ERROR doesnt tell you enough?04:40
fifieldtyes, I lodged a bug on that04:40
Sam-I-Ampfffft04:40
fifieldteg https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/124139504:40
fifieldtSam-I-Am, so you've already got a launchpad account04:41
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mrproperI said that bug affects me. Does that mean it will notify me of changes?04:41
fifieldtyou should login to https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/124139504:41
fifieldtdepending on your launchpad settings mrproper, yes04:41
mrproperOkay]04:41
fifieldt(ususally yes)04:41
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Sam-I-Amfifieldt: yeah, that's how i've been filing bugs04:42
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fifieldtyou should sign in at https://review.openstack.org/04:42
fifieldtthe code review system04:42
fifieldtthen have a look at what's involved with the CLA at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/agreements04:42
fifieldtand upload an ssh key at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ssh-keys :)04:43
Sam-I-Amputting that on my list of things to check out tomorrow04:43
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fifieldtyay :)04:44
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Sam-I-Ami think this game is going into overtime...04:44
Sam-I-Amjust what i needed04:44
fifieldtouch :)04:45
Sam-I-Amamerican football04:45
Sam-I-Amstill sunday night here04:45
mrproperfifieldt: That status page, is that commited?04:46
fifieldtif the delivery says " Implemented " - yes04:46
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mrproperOh okay04:46
mrproperSo not all features are guaranteed, just...targeted04:46
fifieldtyes04:47
Sam-I-Ami also probably need to go through the entire install again to see how the docs are flowing... particularly if it ends with a working system04:47
fifieldtSam-I-Am, that kind of testing would be wonderful04:47
fifieldtit's what I was running through prior to release - making the matrix at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HavanaDocTesting04:48
Sam-I-Amthats kind of what i've been doing04:48
fifieldtfeel free to update the matrix :)04:48
fifieldtor anything04:48
fifieldtif you find something that you can't update, let me know and we'll make it more Open :)04:48
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Sam-I-Amok04:49
Sam-I-Amneutron is getting there04:49
fifieldtthanks to your efforts :)04:49
Sam-I-Amwouldnt consider it 'not written'04:49
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fifieldtoh good :)04:49
fifieldtplease give it an update if you can04:49
Sam-I-Ami will when i run through the install again04:49
Sam-I-Amplenty has changed since last time04:50
fifieldtmrproper, you can also  combine that status page with the schedule (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule) to fairly easily see if things are slipping or making it04:50
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Sam-I-Ami'm pretty sure the big show stopper for most people trying to install neutron was 125109604:51
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fifieldtmm, yeah04:52
Sam-I-Amfollowed by the metadata problem04:52
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fifieldtyeah :(04:52
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Sam-I-Am1252521 and 125252204:53
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rkeeneI hate Python.06:24
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rkeeneThis is also inconvient: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/python_keystoneclient-0.4.1-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:six>=1.4.1     /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/python_cinderclient-1.0.7-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:six>=1.4.1     /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/nova-2013.2-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:six<1.4.006:33
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egmhi all08:06
egmtotal openstack newbie here08:06
egmhave installed using RDO08:07
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egmall went well now I am trying to figure out how to add a new host to the stack08:07
egmcan anyone help please08:07
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RaviTezuegm: Adding a host is simple just mention the controller node address in the config files and start the services08:09
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karan_Guys please help , i am completely stucked since last 3 days08:35
karan_[root@rdo ~]# cinder list ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo ~]#08:35
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karan_how to resolve this HTTP 401 error ?????????????08:35
k4n0Are you sending the keystone auth token with the cinder api request?08:38
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k4n0looks like you are using the  cinder cmd client08:38
k4n0have you sourced the correct env params?08:39
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karan_K4n0 - yes env parameters are correct , other cli commands like  nova list  or glance image-list are working fine , i am facing this only with cinder related commands08:45
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k4n0can you add a --debug param to the cinder command, share the outpu08:56
k4n0output08:57
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karan_k4n0 -  http://pastebin.com/vF7c8pdN09:00
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karan_k4n0 - i have shared output , please see and suggest , it would be my please if you can help me09:00
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k4n0@Karan, i can see a problem, the keystone uri is Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/', but your actuall keystone node might be http://192.168.1.49:5000 , can you check the  "auth_host" conf in /etc/cinder/cinde.conf09:06
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karan_k4n0 - i have checked and its [root@rdo cinder]# cat cinder.conf | grep -i auth_host auth_host = 127.0.0.1 [root@rdo cinder]#09:10
karan_auth_host = 127.0.0.109:10
karan_do i need to change keystone uri  OR auth_host  also with what value09:11
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k4n0you change both09:12
karan_with what value HOSTNAME or 127.0.0.1 ???09:13
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k4n0your keystone node looks to be at 192.168.1.49, use this value09:15
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karan_hello Dheerendra09:18
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karan_K4n0 - please check the new details http://pastebin.com/M7rnSAhw09:21
k4n0does it work now?09:22
karan_ i have updated auth_host and auth_port in cinder.conf09:22
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k4n0restart all services and try your command with --debug again09:22
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karan_NO after restarting cinder services and checking it again09:23
karan_its throwing same error09:24
karan_[root@rdo ~]# cinder list ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo ~]#09:24
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k4n0what is the --debug output09:24
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amminiWell, you'd try running cinder by passing the auth values, rather than relying on the the source script (for debugging)09:26
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karan_k4N0 -  here is the new output http://pastebin.com/XLXjvbE409:27
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k4n0as you can see in the debug outpu DEBUG:cinderclient.client:RESP: [401] {'date': 'Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:25:59 GMT', 'content-length': '23', 'content-type': 'text/plain', 'www-authenticate': "Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/'"}09:30
k4n0your cinderclient is still trying to use 127.0.0.1 to talk to keystone09:30
k4n0as @ammini mentioned, try using the auth url directly while invoking "cinder" command09:30
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amminiAFAIK, if you've mistyped anything while creating the services, its best you do cinder-manage to populate the correct values in the backend db.09:32
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karan_k4N0  & Ammini  --- [root@rdo ~]# cinder --os-auth-url=http://192.168.1.49:5000/v2.0 list ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo ~]#09:34
karan_is there something wrong in this command09:34
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amminikaran_: Pass os-username, os-password and os-tenant as well.09:35
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karan_ammini -- the  --os-username  and password   would be or CINDER  or admin09:38
karan_i have different password from admin and cinder users09:38
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karan_i use to open horizon web inteface using admin id and password09:38
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karan_so which os_username and password to supply with cinder command ????09:39
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Guest85441#?09:40
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karan_k4n0 - http://pastebin.com/G8b2PuS509:44
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karan_ammini - http://pastebin.com/G8b2PuS509:44
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jake2LIST10:01
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dacharyHi, is the date of the atlanta openstack summit set yet ?10:24
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karan_guys please help10:47
karan_[root@rdo keystone]# service openstack-keystone status keystone dead but pid file exists [root@rdo keystone]#10:47
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RaviTezukaran_: Anything in logs?10:49
RaviTezuSaying "keystone dead but pid file exists" doesn't help much10:50
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karan_RaviTezu - nothing in var/log/messsages keystone.log10:54
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RaviTezuWhat is the under lying OS?10:54
RaviTezuCentOS? Ubuntu?10:55
karan_RaviTezu -  centos 6.4    RDO10:55
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karan_Ravi - the wired thing is nothing in log files10:55
RaviTezucheck /var/log/keystone/keystone.log ?10:56
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RaviTezuIs mysql running on the host?10:57
RaviTezukaran_: ^^10:57
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karan_RaviTezu _ nothing in /var/log/keystone/keystone.log  no recent entries10:58
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karan_yes mysql is runnig i am able to login to DB10:58
laricoGuys, I need help installing a compute node. I'm running debian wheezy and following the official docs doesn't help => http://pastie.org/850704710:59
laricoseems to be a 'driver' issue10:59
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RaviTezukaran_: Can you try restarting the keystone? and then check the logs?11:02
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karan_Ravi-Tezu  --- same error , and no new logs generated11:04
RaviTezuNothing in /var/log/messages?11:04
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laricokaran_> start your keystone with debug and verbose11:06
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laricodon't use "service" script11:07
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karan_larico --- how to do that11:10
karan_can you help with command11:10
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laricokaran_> i don't use redhat. With debian i'd do : /usr/bin/keystone-all -v -d11:14
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karan_any one seen this12:59
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karan_[root@rdo init.d]# service openstack-keystone status keystone dead but pid file exists [root@rdo init.d]#12:59
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Heidisteinyes13:02
Heidisteinthat happens when keystone dies13:02
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karan_Heidistin - i am struggling since hours13:02
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karan_please help in troulbleshooting13:02
HeidisteinI assume you do a 'servie keystone start'. and that its dead13:03
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karan_yes services are not coming up13:03
karan_it says keystone dead13:03
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Heidisteinkaran_ has it ever run, or are you trying to do a new13:03
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karan_no till yesterday it was working13:03
Heidisteinand you have checked the logfile13:04
karan_nothing fresh gets captured in logs13:04
karan_everything is hours old13:04
Heidisteinset debug=True in keystine.conf13:04
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karan_i done that too but no logs captured13:04
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Heidisteinok. What if you just run 'openstack-keystone' as proces (wiothout init)13:04
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MadkissI am seeing a rather unpleassant effect with heat on Grizzly. I am starting virtual machines and my template tells Heat to automatically assign them a floating IP.13:05
Heidisteindang, I'm bad at typing todat13:05
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MadkissThe IP does show up in the Quantum L3 agent log as being associated, but then, the L3 removes it again. It remains "assigned" in the Quantum DB, though.13:05
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HeidisteinMadkiss I have no idea, sorry... maybee openvswitch restart13:08
Heidisteinkaran_ hows it going?13:09
karan_it says command not found13:09
karan_[root@rdo init.d]# openstack-keystone -bash: openstack-keystone: command not found [root@rdo init.d]#13:09
Heidisteinmoment please, i'lllook up the right command13:09
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ciaociao13:09
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RaviTezuHeidistein: What would you suggest if I ask you a better/next best guide for network node setup other than openstack documents?13:10
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RaviTezuI'm new to the concepts like dnsmasq, l3-agent.. in quantum.13:11
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Heidisteinciao karan_ the command is keystone-all13:11
odyssey4meis it possible to entirely remove a zone from a swift setup?13:12
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HeidisteinRaviTezu erm, google, i used a small text document.13:12
odyssey4meif so, how?13:12
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HeidisteinRaviTezu its somewhere on my desk13:12
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RaviTezuHeidistein: Can you please provide me the doc?13:12
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karan_Heidistein - thanks something i can see13:13
karan_oslo.config.cfg.ConfigFileParseError: Failed to parse /etc/keystone/keystone.conf: at /etc/keystone/keystone.conf:8, Unexpected continuation line: ' #bind_host = 0.0.0.0'13:13
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karan_this is the culprit13:13
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RaviTezuHeidistein: Or email me? Here's my id: ravi-teja@live.in13:14
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HeidisteinRaviTezu yes, its somewhere.13:14
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HeidisteinRaviTezu searching13:14
RaviTezuHeidistein: thanks :)13:14
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karan_can you check from your running cluster what is the the value of bind_host13:15
Heidisteinkaran_ yes, one moment13:16
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HeidisteinRaviTezu https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide in combo with the official doc. Since i run havana on rhel13:16
RaviTezuThanks Heidistein13:17
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HeidisteinRaviTezu good luck.13:17
HeidisteinRaviTezu It will work in the end!13:17
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Heidisteinkaran_ it saysbind_host = 0.0.0.013:18
Heidisteinkaran_ maybee something odd like windows/linux line ending13:18
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Heidisteinkaran_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211961713:19
Heidisteinit sais it could be a space13:19
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karan_Thanks Heidistein , you are Awesome13:25
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karan_my problem still not solved but you helped me moving 1 step closer13:26
karan_now i am getting CRITICAL keystone [-] [Errno 98] Address already in use13:26
karan_:-)13:26
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tonixkaran_: you may need to kill the other keystone service first, before starting the init service (you may use the command "ss -tulpen" to get the one...)13:30
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Heidisteinkaran_ the netstat -lpnt command might give a clue who/what is using the address/port13:32
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karan_Thanks Tonix and Heidistein - keystone now runnning13:38
karan_actually i am troubleshooting cinder cli and gui since 3 days but did not able to found out13:38
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karan_DEBUG:cinderclient.client:RESP: [401] {'date': 'Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:38:53 GMT', 'content-length': '23', 'content-type': 'text/plain', 'www-authenticate': "Keystone uri='http://127.0.0.1:5000/'"} RESP BODY: Authentication required  ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) [root@rdo init.d]#13:39
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karan_Tonix  Heidistein  - any idea on this error13:39
laricokaran_> get another job lol13:41
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karan_larico -  :-)  i am sturggeling with this since days13:43
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laricokaran_>  yeah I see that. In fact, the title of this chan is frigthening13:45
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laricoseems no one here is able to help anyone about anything13:45
laricomoreover, the doc are at best incomplete, or plain wrong sometimes13:45
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tonixkaran_: what does "ss -tln | grep :5000" report?13:46
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tonixalso, which kind of auth do you use? env or argument based?13:47
tonixkaran_: oh, you might want to restart the cinder services too... as keystone was off before13:49
tonixI hope, it is a test system, where you are working on... :-)13:49
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HeidisteinI had this exact error when I decided to change all the IP addresses. That was stupidity.13:50
Heidisteinit was all over the configfiles and databese and everywhere13:51
tonix:-)13:51
tonixyes, changing IPs could be a nightmare13:51
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karan_tonix :  Yes i am working on development system , so any thing can be done to make it work :-)  , i reatarted entire openstack several times , all the services works good but still not able to run cinder cli and volume horizon gui14:01
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karan_i tried using both env and parameters for cliner but not much help14:01
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karan_can you suggest some more steps that i can look14:02
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tonixkaran_: you migth need to check your endpoints/services (with "keystone service-list" and "keystone endpoint-list")14:04
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tonixkaran_: what would you like to archive, at the end?14:06
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karan_archive ?14:06
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tonixwhat is your goal14:07
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tonixjust setting up devstack, testing openstack14:07
tonix...14:07
tonix:-)14:07
karan_my env is cent os 6.4 ,  RDO havana14:07
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karan_tonix -- http://pastebin.com/B0epbAB914:09
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tonixkaran_: your cinder endpoint seems to be :8777 (here it is :8776)14:11
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karan_tonix - so where i need to change this14:14
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tonixkaran_: I missed something, sorry, this is not the error :-)14:14
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karan_OKEY14:15
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tonixkaran_: what does "ss -tulpen | grep 8080" report?14:16
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tonixhmm, I got a realy strange Grizzly error... I'm able to copy the whole system on another hardware system and everything works like a charm, but on another system, nova-api sets the launched instance imediately to the ERROR state (no other errors are logged within the system). Running libvirt manually works, and glance is able to deploy the image... any ideas?14:22
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tonixsetup is using quantum with openvswitch, VM would be launched just with a normal root disk from glance14:23
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tonixis there a way to enable something like "bash -x" for python?14:24
estopython -v14:25
estopython -vv14:25
tonixah, thank you esto will test it14:25
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tonixdamn it, it was just a capacity issue :-( (the flavor was to huge for the hardware)14:41
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qingluohi all, i have a question about two node(controller and compute). and each just has a single NIC. how can i configure the network configures to let vms can conmunicate with controller node?14:42
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decedeon devstack is the FLAT_INTERFACE the NIC that will route to the outside world?15:50
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ChocoboIs there any way from having new instances scheduled onto a node WITHOUT stoping nova-compute (or other services)?   I want it up for testing, but do not want new instances started on it.15:51
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kbringardChocobo: I think you can send scheduler hints with your nova boot16:01
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larsksChocobo: You may also be able to "disable" the service with "nova-manage service disable ..."16:09
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Chocobokbringard: Unfortunately we use dashboard so we don't really have any control over that.16:15
Chocobolarsks: I could try that... I wonder if I can still force an instance to start on a "disabled" compute node.16:16
kbringardah, then yea, nova-manage service disable is probably your best bet16:16
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kbringardyou just disable all the compute nodes except the one you want to force it to16:16
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larsksChocobo: You could deploy your "test" node in another region (then you can explicitly use --os-region-name on the command line to boot instances on that node).16:19
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larsks...but this would make it largely invisible from the web ui.16:19
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Chocobolarsks: that sounds like a pretty good idea.16:26
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ChocoboHere is what I am trying to do... I 4 compute nodes.  3 of them use an older generation processor (16 core Opteron 61xx) and the 3rd node has 64 core Opteron 63xx.   I can not for the life of me figure out how to get live-migration to work between the two of them.   I tried setting libvirt_cpu_model=none on both nodes but that didn't work.  I would like to migrate all the instances to the 3rd node, install new processors in the older no16:29
mnaserChocobo: errors?16:29
ChocoboIt is driving me crazy...   libvirt_cpu_model=none should work..  all the CPU flags are supported between the two nodes.  :/16:29
Chocobomnaser: 2013-11-25 11:19:00.575 15169 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp InvalidCPUInfo: Unacceptable CPU info: CPU doesn't have compatibility.16:29
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mnaserChocobo: would you have the full trace by any chance?16:30
ChocoboThat is from nova-compute on the new node (the one I am trying to migrate to).  It is almost acting like it is ignoring libvirt_cpu_model16:30
Chocobosure, one second16:30
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mnaseralso *just* in case, grep nova-compute.log for libvirt_cpu_model, nova-compute prints out all values on start up if logging is setup to debug, so you can ensure its properly set16:31
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Chocobomnaser: http://pastie.org/pastes/8507717/text16:32
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Chocobomnaser: It looks like it is setting it fine:  2013-11-25 11:18:17.046 15169 DEBUG nova.service [-] libvirt_cpu_model : None wait /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/service.py:20516:32
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ChocoboI even tried creating a custom cpu model in cpu_map.xml that has all matching cpu flags between processor models.   That failed with the same error.16:34
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mnaserChocobo: there should be a line that says "Instance launched has CPU info" with a json string next to it, do you see that?16:34
mnasershould be before the exception is raised16:34
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Chocobomnaser: 2013-11-25 11:19:00.542 INFO nova.virt.libvirt.driver [req-18c46788-3b28-4ea5-92d3-9ce887a4278a 43b2e3d7bed64bacab2f69b0cb7ce387 417de5251c804c45baabd0fa2873b43f] Instance launched has CPU info:16:36
Chocobo{"vendor": "AMD", "model": "acg_common", "arch": "x86_64", "features": ["3dnow", "3dnowext"], "topology": {"cores": 4, "threads": 1, "sockets": 1}}16:36
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ChocoboUGH!  Why is it trying to use my custom CPU model?   The sticking difference is that the new processor does NOT have 3dnow and 3dnowext.  :/16:36
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mnaserChocobo: you could cheat....16:38
ChocoboIt looks like it is taking my custom cpu model, adding the flags that make it incompatible and trying to launch the instance with that even though I told it which CPU to use.16:39
mnaserhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L4086 - comment out that and do your work if this isnt something that you need all the time16:39
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Chocobomnaser: how so?  edit the database, kill kvm on the old node and then a hard reboot?16:39
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mnaserjust comment out the part where it adds the features, so feature set will be empty, comparision should go through as you say16:39
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Chocobomnaser: Hrmm, that could work.  I would file a bug on this but I am using grizzly.16:41
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mnaserChocobo: that might be a reason..  but atleast you can make it work for now16:41
Chocobomnaser: I will take a look.  Thanks.16:42
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mnaserChocobo: no problem, good luck16:43
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Sam-I-Ammorning guys16:45
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mrproperHey salmanbaset16:50
mrproperSam-I-Am:16:50
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: yo16:53
mrproperSam-I-Am: I got the 2nd node installed last night. Downloading the install.img file took like...45 minutes.16:53
Sam-I-Amthe compute node?16:54
mrproperYes16:54
Sam-I-Amwhat is install.img?16:54
mrproperSam-I-Am: Question for you about the networking side in a multi-node. If I have an external and internal network, do I create another vmware network and attach the 2nd interface cards to those?16:54
mrproperFor net install on the CentOS16:54
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Sam-I-Amah16:56
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Sam-I-Amif this is all in vmware, yeah16:56
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Sam-I-Amanother vlan on your vswitch, add a second v eth interface to the host16:57
Sam-I-Amthe compute-controller connection that handles instance traffic is completely internal16:57
Sam-I-Amthe ips are merely used as gre endpoints16:57
mrproperI didn't setup another VLAN16:58
Sam-I-Amanother vswitch works too16:58
mrproperThat brings me to my next question.16:58
Sam-I-Amjust need to isolate that connectivity16:58
mrproperBecause the controller does the NAT, does that mean all traffic needs to pass through the controller?16:59
Sam-I-Amnat happens whereever neutron is running16:59
Sam-I-Amwherever br-ex is...16:59
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doti am wondering why i don't get catalog in my response: http://pastebin.com/X5hLWwqX16:59
dotand why i am not able to authenticate for my tenant ?16:59
Sam-I-Amyour instance traffic will go instance->compute->gre/internalnet->controller->neutronmagic->externalnet16:59
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mrproperSo yes. The controller becomes a bottleneck huh17:00
Sam-I-Amdot: thats a really weird way to talk to a daemin17:01
Sam-I-Amdot: do you have an rc file?17:01
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dotthis is only test environment, devstack install i am working on remote connection to this instance17:01
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Sam-I-Amobviously it thinks the user you're authing as doesnt belong to the admin tenant17:01
mrproperSam-I-Am: Is Neutron able to run on each compute node?17:02
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: it already does17:02
mrproperSam-I-Am: Oh. So then it wouldn't actually be a bottleneck if Neutron is on each compute, right?17:02
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Sam-I-Amwell, ultimately you have multiple network nodes handling your traffic17:03
dotSam-I-Am: this user belongs to demo tenant17:03
dotnot admin tenant17:03
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Sam-I-Amdot: if you can access horizon, go to the tenant then access&security then api... and ask it to give you an rc file17:03
Sam-I-Amthen... at the command line, 'source whateverrc'17:03
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Sam-I-Amthen things like 'nova list' should work17:04
mrproperSam-I-Am: Is OpenStack able to use Oracle or other DB?17:04
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dotSam-I-Am: one sec17:04
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: it can support a number of DBs17:04
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Sam-I-Amits not particularly DB heavy, so oracle might be overkill17:04
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mrproperOf course. But if a customer has a ton of Oracle DBAs in house and they're an Oracle shop...it makes sense.17:05
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Sam-I-Amthen they also have the money to make openstack talk to it :)17:08
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jfarschmanmrproper: isn't' mysql owned by Oracle now anyway.17:16
jfarschmanthose DBAs should just learn about mysql17:16
Sam-I-Amyou mean being destroyed by oracle?17:16
jfarschmanI never said that.17:16
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mrproperjfarschman: Oh yeah it is.17:18
mrproperForgot about that :)17:18
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jfarschmanmrproper: Im pretty happy with mysql.  But this is the state DB for the entire stack and as such you cannot screw it up without consequences.17:19
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jfarschmanthe decision to use a different database could mean that one of the 'experts' makes a mistake and destroys critical metadata.17:20
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jfarschmanFWIW sticking with the mainstream makes it a lot easier to get any help in IRC as well.  And everything just works better.17:21
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mrproperI am totally going to go destroy a mcrib17:50
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Sam-I-Ammcwhat?17:52
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mrmcrib...McRib17:53
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mrmcribyou don't know McRibs?17:53
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Sam-I-Amoh, gross17:54
Sam-I-Amthere was a simpsons episode about those17:54
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Sam-I-Ami try to avoid fast food17:54
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mrmcribSam-I-Am: Try the BBQ sauce! I'm slathered in it!17:55
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Sam-I-Amuh17:55
Sam-I-Amwhat are you implying?17:55
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decedeanyone remember the dhcp client name in cirros?17:56
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Sam-I-Amnope, but should be one of the running processes17:57
mrmcribSam-I-Am: ...that's one of the lines from the episode.17:58
mrmcrib"For Compute to use these credentials, you must edit the nova.conf configuration file:" <-- Do you read this as "Do this on compute" or do you read this as "Do this on Controller so compute can use the credentials?17:58
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Sam-I-Ammrmcrib: oh, i didnt get it :/17:58
Sam-I-Am<- slo17:58
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Sam-I-Amactually, need moarrrr coffee17:59
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Sam-I-Ammrmcrib: where are you seeing this?17:59
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mrmcribhttp://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf18:01
mrmcribNova chapter, step 718:01
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Sam-I-Amhmm18:03
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Sam-I-Amoh my, i've never seen openstack-config before18:04
Sam-I-Ammust be a rh thing18:04
mrmcribYeah ti is.18:04
Sam-I-Ami'd just edit those config files by hand18:04
mrmcribI normally do, it's faster.18:04
mrmcribRegardless, I don't know which file to use.18:04
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Sam-I-Amhold on a sec...18:04
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mrmcrib1254814 <-- Bitches!18:05
mrmcribbrb18:05
Sam-I-Amso nova on the controller needs to know about the rest of the system18:05
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Sam-I-Ambasically needs to know about keystone18:05
Sam-I-Amhttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-controller.html18:06
Sam-I-Ammight be easier18:06
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Sam-I-Amat this point the document is talking about nova on the controller node18:07
Sam-I-Amthe next step is nova on the compute node18:07
ekarlsoSam-I-Am: how goes your ref arch ?18:07
Sam-I-Amekarlso: kind of on hold right now18:08
Sam-I-Amekarlso: too many fires at work18:09
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ekarlso;p18:09
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Sam-I-Amnext step is filing the rest of the doc bugs, or doing what fifield said and just become a contributor18:09
Sam-I-Amthen go through the entire install guide again to see if it works18:10
Sam-I-Ami think the big showstopper doc bugs are fixed.  neutron and metadata "should" work now.18:10
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Sam-I-Amhowever, i've also only looked at the deb/ubu guide18:11
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ekarlso;p18:15
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ekarlsowhat hypervisor u using Sam-I-Am ?18:15
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Sam-I-Amkvm for now18:16
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Sam-I-Ambut i'll need to integrate esx18:16
ekarlsok18:16
ekarlsothought of doing xen ?18:16
Sam-I-Amnot yet18:16
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Sam-I-Amany reason to look at it?18:18
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BobBallif you test it I'll find a Xen t-shirt I can send you Sam-I-Am  ;)18:22
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Sam-I-Amha18:24
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Sam-I-Amthat might work18:25
* Sam-I-Am works for t-shirts18:25
BobBallhehe18:25
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BobBallI guess most people have enough t-shirts from the summit to last a few years...18:25
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Sam-I-Ami havent been to a summit18:26
Sam-I-Amtrying for the one in may18:26
BobBallhence why you're t-shirtless! Got it!18:26
BobBallhaha18:26
Sam-I-Amthis assumes my company decides to roll with the concept of sddc/iaas18:26
Sam-I-Amits been an unexpectedly uphill battle18:27
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Makdaamhello18:30
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suresh12_Hi,  In a nova compute node which restarts, is it possible to specify the order in which existing instances are brought up?18:51
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jkylemorning18:56
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jkyleI'm haproxy to proxy the horizon dashboard. Openstack's deployed with the stackforge openstack modules. The backend apache2 server is throwing a 500 error on the request. Where can I find the logs for details onthe source of the error?18:57
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jkyleI tried looking in /var/log/apache2/error.log, which shows no errors. tried looking in /var/log/horizon, no logs created there.18:58
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Sam-I-Amit might be in the keystone logs18:58
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jkyledon't see it there19:01
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jkylethis happens on the initial page load, never get the login form or anything19:01
Sam-I-Amwell, if nothing else apache should be logging the 500 and where it came from19:01
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Sam-I-Amif thats what served it19:01
Sam-I-Amhmm, maybe its pointing to the wrong place?19:02
warikhow would i allow more security groups? (SecurityGroupLimitExceeded: Quota exceeded, too many security groups. (HTTP 413)) thanks!19:02
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jkyleyeah, this is what I get from haproxy. but nothing from apache: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/764639119:02
jkylethis is the splash that horizon gives me: http://i.imgur.com/AFlblUQ.png19:03
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Sam-I-Amjkyle: maybe a cookie problem?19:03
Sam-I-Amdoes horizon work without haproxy?19:04
jkylehm, possibly. but where might that error be shown?19:04
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jkylehaproxy is just a proxy. horizon _should_ work with it.19:04
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jkyleI've set the X-Forwarded-For headers and such. I've seen it work19:04
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Sam-I-Amyeah i know its just a proxy...19:05
Sam-I-Ami'm just wondering if horizon itself works alone19:05
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jkyleit's being served via wsgi through apache2. I know the core technologies (haproxy, apache2, django, wsgi, etc) work fine in this setup19:07
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jkyledjango has some hitches, we had to patch things in grizzly (horizon was ignoring the insecure ssl flags), but those look to be fixed in havana19:08
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Sam-I-Amhmm, that kind of goes out of my realm :/19:13
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jkylehere's the access error I get from apache19:18
jkylemyhost.com:80 127.0.0.1 - - [25/Nov/2013:11:17:42 -0800] "GET /horizon/ HTTP/1.1" 500 1051 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9) AppleWebKit/537.71 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0 Safari/537.71"19:18
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Sam-I-Amdoes that url exist?19:19
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jkyleit should, it's the default url for horizon19:19
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* jkyle is trcking it down :P19:20
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jkyleenabling debug in the local_settings fixes the issue. it must be due to the self-signed cert in the testing environment19:35
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Sam-I-Amsounds like a good bet19:38
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jkyleI thought I'd enabled the django options to allow that, but suppose if this does the trick it _is_ our testing environment. so would be a simple fix19:40
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Sam-I-Amwhops19:47
Sam-I-Amer, whoops19:47
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I don't love how many passwords are statically set in config files.20:00
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: heh20:05
Sam-I-Amwhere else do you want them set?20:05
mrproperSam-I-Am: Not sure. But if I want to change passwords it seems a little tedious.20:06
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* Sam-I-Am found a rabbit hole20:09
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Sam-I-Amone of these days i'm going to figure out why stuff randomly stops working20:09
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jblackcosmic rays20:17
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adarazshi20:18
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adarazsI have a quick question: can I CTRL-C a long "keystone-manage db_sync" command without consequences?20:19
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adarazsand rerun it after a "keystone-manage token_flush"20:19
adarazs?20:19
swaT30adarazs: that just sounds scary...20:19
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adarazsswaT30: yup, but I started the db sync on a db that I didn't flush since a long time, and it's going since 1.5 hours :/20:20
adarazsand I have no idea how long it will still last...20:20
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Sam-I-Amjblack: neutron seems to be a cosmic ray attractor20:21
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Sam-I-Amadarazs: i thought db_sync just initially populates the db20:21
mrproperSam-I-Am: Damn. I think something is wrong with my configuration, troubleshooting time!20:21
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: please wait for the next available operator20:22
mrproperI'm not asking you :)20:22
adarazsSam-I-Am: apparently it's used for DB scheme upgrades too and that's what I'm doing (grizzly -> havana)20:22
Sam-I-Amadarazs: oh... ew.20:22
Sam-I-Amanything in the logs?20:22
Sam-I-Ammrproper: heh20:22
adarazsbut I'm not an expert in it, just trying my first upgrade ever.20:22
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jblackI don't know what neutron is yet20:24
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I will ask...in your api-paste.ini file, is filter:authtoken literally that or is the authtoken the actual token20:24
jblackBut yeah, that's one way to detect cosmic rays. A big pile of neurons,. =)20:24
Sam-I-Ammrproper: thats just a section header20:24
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Sam-I-Amthe goodness goes below it20:24
mrproperSo it's literal.20:24
Sam-I-Amliterally20:24
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I think I figured it out. I have one section which is using internal IP addresses instead of DNS. Internal network hasn't been configured yet.20:32
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Sam-I-Amah20:35
Sam-I-Ammake sure you define everything in /etc/hostsd20:35
Sam-I-Am-d20:35
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mrproperYeah I have it there, but not the private space20:36
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mrproperProblem solved20:38
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Sam-I-Amdid you try turning it off and then on again?20:38
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Sam-I-Ami'm trying to juggle a bunch of stuff at once, one of which is trying to figure out why something that worked on friday no longer works20:40
Sam-I-Amand why install A which is basically a replica of install B has different things in iptables20:40
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mrproperError: failure: repodata/095466e8bd3e2526ad16e2f98865e3ba7abe932a1d86843ceb129713ee87f187-filelists.sqlite.bz2 from openstack-havana: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. <-- Where did it get this filename from?20:41
jfarschmanmrproper: that's from yum or apt.20:42
mrproperjfarschman: Yeah that's from yum. But that string looks very...unique20:42
mrproperAnd here we are, it's not there.20:43
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mrproperI'm updating the packages, see if that fixes it20:43
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jfarschmanmrproper: I'm not using red hat anymore, but this seems like a job for 'yum clean all'20:44
mrproperI'll upgrade first, then see if that fixes. Otherwise I'll use that comman.d20:45
* mrproper is excited to get to Neutron setup. He figures that will go smoothly!20:45
Sam-I-Amso install A has a virbr0, install B does not20:46
Sam-I-Aminstall A does not work, install B works20:46
* Sam-I-Am slams head on desk20:46
jfarschmanSeems like you may need  virtual bridge20:47
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ChocoboAlright... I am having an odd problem.  I have three dhcp-agents running.   My guests can get an IP when agents 1 and 3 are running, but not agents 1,2, and 3.   There does not appear to be any errors in the dnsmasq log file :/20:48
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jfarschmanchocobo: three dirrfeent agents on three different network nodes?20:54
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Sam-I-Amand then as if by magic, install A starts working again20:58
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jfarschmanchocobo: I have this magic line for watch br100 for DHCP20:59
jfarschmantcpdump -lenx -i br100 -s 1500 port bootps or port bootpc20:59
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Sooooo...do I start with nova-net or do I go directly to Neutron?21:00
Sam-I-Amwell, neutron is The Way21:01
Sam-I-Ammight as well begin the head-banging now21:01
Sam-I-Ami'll start the vodka IV21:01
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Chocobojfarschman: yes sorry...  three different agents on three different nodes.  The strange thing is, all the logs look like fine.21:03
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I will see how much I hate Neutron setup :)21:03
jfarschmanchocobo: no duplicated IPs for the listen address or anything.  I had a problem with that last week.21:03
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Do I require Neutron or Nova-net on the compute node to run a nova image-list command?21:04
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: some of my bugs didnt post to the docs yet.  it will break, but i can help.21:05
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Sam-I-Amyou probably wont run any commands on the compute node21:06
mrproperSam-I-Am: I am just asking since I can't run a nova image-list command on compute1 yet21:06
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mrproperOh okay21:06
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mrproperHow do I verify functionality without actually using it then21:07
Sam-I-Amit should work though once nova there knows about nova on the controller, and you're using the right creds21:07
Sam-I-Amtry 'nova service-list' on the controller21:07
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Sam-I-Amand nova hypervisor-list21:08
Chocobojfarschman: What do you mean by duplicated IPs for the listen address?  I don't see any config options for that.   It looks like they are listening on tap interfaces (all different names/ips) in namespaces.21:08
mrproperYeah not listing anything21:08
mrproperWell, it lists for service-list, but only local21:08
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jfarschmanps -ef |grep dnsmaq and check the listen address.21:08
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: so its teh brox0rs :/21:09
jfarschmanI'm probably wrong.  Problem is I'm troubleshooting an Oracle server right now. and that's rotting my brain.21:09
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mrproperSam-I-Am: But, at this point, I haven't enabled nova-net or Neutron21:09
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jfarschmanthanks you Sam-I-Am21:09
Sam-I-Ammrproper: the nova compute stuff should still check in with the controller if thats configured right... i think21:09
mrproperSam-I-Am: Well, it isn't :/21:10
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Chocobojfarschman: dnsmasq --no-hosts --no-resolv --strict-order --bind-interfaces --interface=tap96684f76-15 --except-interface=lo --pid-file=/var/lib/quantum/dhcp/d9f50a6e-df43-4731-baf3-9eb5d30a4962/pid --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/lib/quantum/dhcp/d9f50a6e-df43-4731-baf3-9eb5d30a4962/host --dhcp-optsfile=/var/lib/quantum/dhcp/d9f50a6e-df43-4731-baf3-9eb5d30a4962/opts --dhcp-script=/usr/bin/quantum-dhcp-agent-dnsmasq-lease-update --leasefile-ro --21:10
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ChocoboI don't see any listen address, probably because the interface is inside the namespace?21:10
Sam-I-Ammrproper: ok, so just move your rc file to the compute node, load it, and try to run some nova commands21:10
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jfarschmanChocobo: Sorry, I'm not a Neutron guy.  I'm gonna let you guys figure that out then I'll ask yo for help ;)21:11
mrproperSam-I-Am: That's what I did, and that's what is timing out21:11
mrproperNo route to host21:11
Sam-I-Amso it can't find the ip you provided of your controller21:11
Sam-I-Amor its firewalled21:11
mrproperBUT it does ping the controller address21:11
Sam-I-Amdid you open mysql to listen beyond localhost?21:11
Sam-I-Am330621:12
mrproperIt's bound to 192.168.15.2121:12
Sam-I-Amtcpdump time... figure out what the compute node is trying to do and what it can't get to21:13
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Sam-I-Amunless the logs provide more info21:13
Sam-I-Amthey should...21:13
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mrproper2013-11-25 15:13:44.172 21633 ERROR nova.openstack.common.rpc.impl_qpid [req-81bc4ead-5a63-4cb5-b4da-f80f71096303 None None] Unable to connect to AMQP server: [Errno 113] EHOSTUNREACH. Sleeping 60 seconds21:14
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Sam-I-Amso rabbit can't reach the controller21:14
mrproperExactly21:14
mrproperBut does that require OpenVSwitch21:14
Sam-I-Amor qpid or whatever you're using21:14
Sam-I-Amno21:14
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Sam-I-Amrabbit is the cardiovascular system for openstack, per se21:14
mrproperqpid here21:14
Sam-I-Ameverything talks through it21:14
Sam-I-Amis nova trying to reach rabbit or qpid?21:15
Sam-I-Amthey have different config directives21:15
mrproperI'm using quid. I don't think I ever specified rabbit21:15
mrproperrpc_backend=nova.openstack.common.rpc.impl_qpid21:15
mrproperqpid_hostname=controller21:15
mrpropermy_ip=10.1.1.221:15
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Sam-I-Amcan it see whatever is on the other side?21:16
Sam-I-Am.1 ?21:16
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mrproperVia ping? Yes21:16
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Sam-I-Amcan it telnet to the qpid port?21:16
Sam-I-Amdoes it know what 'controller' is?21:17
mrproperYes for the 2nd21:17
mrproperI'm trying to start messagebus and I don't think it's working21:17
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Sam-I-Amso i think the compute node talks to the controller on the openstack mgmt network, which isnt the same as the private network for instance traffic21:18
Sam-I-Amnot sure how much it matters, but thats how i did it21:18
mrproperIs the mgmt network the "external"21:18
Sam-I-Amif you only have two networks, the yes21:18
Sam-I-Amthen21:18
mrproperYes, okay21:18
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Sam-I-Ami have mgmt, external, and pvt21:18
Sam-I-Ambut i also have a separate network node21:19
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mrproper[root@compute1 network-scripts]# telnet 192.168.15.2121:20
mrproperTrying 192.168.15.21...21:20
mrpropertelnet: connect to address 192.168.15.21: No route to host21:20
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Sam-I-Amrouting problem?21:20
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mrproperSure, maybe. I'm confused why because it pings.21:21
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Sam-I-Amoh, well first telnet probably isnt running21:22
mrproperI know21:22
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mrproperBut I also tried the qpid port21:22
Sam-I-Amfirewall?21:22
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mrproperBoth INPUT and FORWARD have an accept any any21:22
Sam-I-Amqpid not listening on outside interface?21:22
Sam-I-Amnetstat -an | grep LISTEN21:23
mrpropertcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5672                0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN21:23
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Sam-I-Amtelnet from the controller to qpid there work?21:24
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Sam-I-Amis your compute node also on the 192 network or just 10?21:24
mrproperhttp://pastebin.com/q1ZWbqfA21:24
mrproperMy compute node is on both21:24
mrproperHmmm21:25
mrproperI may see21:25
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mrproperLooks like I'm missing a default route on my controller21:25
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mrproperThat didn't solve it. But I can now install telnet21:27
mrproperYes I can telnet locally using telnet 192.168.15.21 567221:27
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mrproper192.168.15.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0 <-- Does this look right?21:28
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Sam-I-Amfor the local network attached to eth0 yes21:29
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I posted my ipchains table on the controller21:29
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Sam-I-Amyeah thats a firewall21:32
mrproper:)21:32
Sam-I-Amtry service iptables stop21:32
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Sam-I-Amthen check connectivity21:32
mrproperGot it21:32
mrproperI can telnet when it's off.21:32
Sam-I-Amdid the guide explain editing the firewall rules?21:32
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mrproperNot at all.21:32
Sam-I-Ami think EL has one enabled by default, whereas ubnt/deb do not21:33
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mrproperDoes iptables allow me to see hit counters, similar to a Cisco ACL?21:33
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mrproperI found the hit counters, but it doesn't seem to be helping.21:35
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Sam-I-Amyeah it does21:35
Sam-I-Amwhat are you trying to do?21:35
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Sam-I-Amso far i dont see a lot of discussion about the firewall in the EL config guide21:35
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Sam-I-Ami'd just flush all the rules for now21:35
mrproperI want to see what firewall rule is breaking this. However they're all incrementing every time I refresh.21:36
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Sam-I-Amits the one only allowing outbound connectivity to initiate and return packets back in21:39
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Sam-I-Amso there's 2-3 rules for that21:39
Sam-I-Amiptables really sucks imho :/21:39
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Sam-I-Ami much prefer the human-readable PF21:39
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Sam-I-Amlinux is getting a new firewall that sucks equally as hard21:40
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mrproperYeah people seem to like PF a lot21:40
Sam-I-Ameasy solution... kill it now and take names later21:40
joshhiptables-save is readable21:40
Sam-I-Amtheres plenty of ports required by openstack21:40
Sam-I-Amyou can firewall them later21:40
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Sure. I'm just kind of curious about this.21:41
Sam-I-Amunderstood :)21:41
mrproper15:40:14.139831 IP compute1.48386 > controller.amqp: Flags [S], seq 2227916081, win 14600, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 24678968 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 021:41
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Sam-I-Amso thats a syn packet21:41
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mrproperYeah21:42
mrproperThat's from my compute121:42
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Sam-I-Ambrb phone21:42
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mrproperI killed iptables and sure enough, the compute1 node registers21:44
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Sam-I-Amyeah21:45
Sam-I-Ammy guess is there's a rst coming back, or an icmp message21:45
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Bethhi21:48
calccryptoHello21:48
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joshhmrproper: iptables-save and pastebin it21:50
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mrproperhttp://pastebin.com/Mr6gkyvP21:51
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mrproperSam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf <-- Page 59, does this imply I need to spin up another server for the network node?21:52
joshhhmm, all policy accepts21:52
mattt_Hello21:52
Sam-I-Ammrproper: yes21:53
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Blech.21:53
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Sam-I-Amso here's your choices21:53
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Sam-I-Amits overall easier to have 3 nodes because thats how the docs describe it21:54
Sam-I-Amhowever, rdo runs on a single node21:54
Sam-I-Amand you have a working ver of that21:54
Sam-I-Amso... you could try to collapse the controller and network nodes based on the rdo config files21:54
Sam-I-Ami tried this at first and things blew up, but the docs were also badly broken.  now i think i can make it work.21:55
mrproperI may just setup another node just for fun.21:55
Sam-I-Amits easier to troubleshoot with 3 nodes21:55
Sam-I-Amespecially at first21:55
Sam-I-Ampacket flows are more obvious21:55
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mrproperGoing with another install. Thank god for CentOS22:07
mrproperI mean PXE22:07
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Sam-I-Amheh22:08
Sam-I-Ami havent pxebooted cent yet22:08
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Sam-I-Amits on that hugely long list of things22:08
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jfarschmanmrproper: Im supposed to be building our company a PXE system22:08
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joshhhow do places without pxe actually function?22:09
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Sam-I-Ami have pxe doing everything else except cent22:09
Sam-I-Amthe docs were not straightforward22:10
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Sam-I-Amof course, no pxe docs are22:10
Sam-I-Amstresslinux was a nasty one to do22:10
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: is it all working yet?22:31
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Still installing CentOS22:33
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Sam-I-Ami'm filing a docs bug against rdo re: ovs22:34
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mrproperMine are getting quick responses, at least assigned as In Progress.22:36
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sputnik13does anyone use the puppetlabs' openstack modules?22:37
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jfarschmansputnik13: Im starting to look at them.  But not using them yet.22:38
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sputnik13I'm confused as to whether I should be using puppet-openstack22:39
sputnik13puppet forge says it's going to be deprecated, but the git page has no such disclaimer22:39
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jfarschmanI cannot remember which I started looking at.22:40
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jfarschmansputnik13: If I recall properly, the puppet forge page is challenged by versioning difficulties.  Git can easily manage this.  I'd work with git.22:44
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sputnik13jfarschman: thanks, I'm doing exactly that, but I'm just thinking I don't want to invest time in using a module that's going to be deprecated22:45
jfarschmanI think it's just the perticular version on puppet forge.22:45
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Sam-I-Amamazing how much time it takes to file one bug :/22:47
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Sam-I-Amgotta make sure everything is concise and reproducable22:47
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mrproperMy bugs were quick since they were minor.22:52
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=103447622:53
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mrproperNice report22:54
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Sam-I-Amthx22:54
Sam-I-Amhad to go test everything too22:54
mrproperI have been submitting my docs ones to launchpad22:54
Sam-I-Amfor rdo?22:55
mrproperhttp://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/openstack-install-guide-yum-havana.pdf22:55
mrproperFor that22:55
Sam-I-Amoh yeah22:56
Sam-I-Amthats all lp, with a convenient link at the bottom of every page22:56
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Okay *finally* installing Neutron23:01
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Sam-I-Amwoohoo!23:01
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mrproperSam-I-Am: When I am configuring Neutron there is a line which is local_ip for the IP address for GRE tunnel termination. It is supposedly on the data network. Is that the "internal" network?23:32
datamaticoh hello all.23:32
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: yeah23:34
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: the one that passes your instance traffic between the compute nodes and network node23:34
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mrproperThen I'll assume that's internal.23:35
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Sam-I-Amyes23:35
Sam-I-Amdid you go with the three-network structure?23:36
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Sam-I-Amwith your fancy new network node and all23:36
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Shit...lost my connectivity :/23:39
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mrproperYeah. I have a management interface.23:40
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Sam-I-Amwhat did you run?23:41
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Sam-I-Aman ovs command?23:41
mrproperI ran a network restart23:41
Sam-I-Amafter what?23:41
mrproperJust to confirm, in this setup, my br-ex on the network node takes the IP address right?23:41
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Sam-I-Amonly two interfaces on it?23:42
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Sam-I-Amon mine i have a third interface for br-ex... nothing else is on it.23:42
Sam-I-Amso network 1 = mgmt network 2 = data network network 3 = br-ext23:43
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mrproperThree interfaces23:43
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Sam-I-Amyeah23:43
Sam-I-Amthere's a better diagram here: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst23:43
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Sam-I-Amand i did post a bug recommending better diagrams in the official docs23:44
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Okay I am having a problem, need your help here.23:51
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mrproperI have eth0 bound to br-ex. However, I don't have bridge-utils installed (thanks docs) so I cannot do bridging.23:52
mrproperI need to do the install, but can't get to the internet.23:52
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Sam-I-Amso put it back, download bridge-utils, and then... ?23:53
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mrproperI did, but it's still not happening23:54
mrproperCan't ping my real gateway23:54
Sam-I-Amdid you add the default route back?23:54
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Sam-I-Amand what ip is it pinging from23:54
mrproperIt does have a default route23:54
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mrproper192.168.15.2023:55
mrproperDestination host unreachable23:55
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mrproperI did bind eth0 to br-ex23:56
Sam-I-Amso this network node has 2 nics?23:56
mrproperIt actually has 3.23:56
mrproperExternal, Internal, Mgmt23:57
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Gamekiller77any one here good with horizon got a funny error that not pointing me to anything23:57
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Sam-I-Amok. so br-ex should be attached to an interface with no ip, but lives on the network which provides internet connectivity23:57
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Sam-I-AmGamekiller77: check the logs... horizon is a bit vague23:57
Sam-I-AmGamekiller77: what were you trying to do23:58
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I used to have it that way, but it wasn't right23:58
mrproperWell, wasn't working.23:58
Sam-I-Ammrproper: i would have the mgmt int as 192.whatever, data network as 10.whatever, and br-ex pointing to the unnumbered interface23:58
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Sam-I-Amwhat wasnt working?23:58
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Are you saying get rid of eth2?23:58
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Sam-I-Amis eth2 the 'external' nic?23:59
mrproperNo23:59
mrpropereth2 is...23:59
mrproperinternal23:59
Sam-I-Amoh23:59
mrproperBy the way, br-ex can't come up without brctl which is what I'm trying to install bridge-utils for23:59
Sam-I-Amsure23:59

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