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| kr4m3r | Sam-I-Am: hello, are you there? i reinstall all both machines (controller and host) but now i have another problem. u'message': u'No valid host was found. ', u'code': 500, u'details': u' | 01:28 |
| kr4m3r | can it be because i use hostname like city-cluster-number | 01:29 |
| kr4m3r | col-c00-host01 col-c00-host01.mydomain.com | 01:29 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: *sigh* It's getting late to start on Neutron a little, slightly, maybe. | 01:37 |
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| mrproper | kr4m3r: Did you edit your hosts file? | 01:37 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: yes | 01:50 |
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| mrproper | Are the hosts pingable | 01:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: wuss | 01:53 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I am still considering it | 01:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | doooo eeeeeiiit | 01:53 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: yes | 01:54 |
| mrproper | kr4m3r: So your controller and 'host' can ping each other, both by hostname and by IP address but OpenStack can't? | 01:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | time to make dinner here | 01:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | spaghetti leftovers | 01:55 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: both machines can ping | 01:57 |
| mrproper | kr4m3r: And you've verified your configurations are correct with no typos? | 01:57 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: have single how to or tutorial to install it on ubuntu? | 01:57 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: yes! all seems ok | 01:57 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: reinstall both servers. all are clean now. Using Openstack ubuntu 12.04 official installation guide. | 01:58 |
| mrproper | What two applications are trying to talk to each other? | 01:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: mmm cheese with some spaghetti | 02:03 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Bam, there ya go. I went with that pesto pasta | 02:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | all low carb right? | 02:04 |
| mrproper | Ha no | 02:04 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: nova-network need be installed on compute? | 02:05 |
| kr4m3r | compute node | 02:05 |
| mrproper | I'm not sure, normally don't really work with nova-net | 02:05 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: ok, controller is installed and host too. Can i send config to pastebin and you look to check if have any issue? | 02:07 |
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| mrproper | Sure | 02:07 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: You love Ubuntu. Does this try to move me to Raring? linux-generic-lts-raring | 02:16 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: http://pastebin.com/78rC7yP7 | 02:18 |
| kr4m3r | have controller and host node | 02:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: uhh.. | 02:21 |
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| mrproper | Ubuntu decided to install that | 02:21 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: got URL? | 02:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | decided to? | 02:21 |
| mrproper | Yeah I did an upgrade and it included that | 02:21 |
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| mrproper | kr4m3r: What command causes that error? | 02:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: what did you install? | 02:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: 12.04 here didnt grab that package | 02:22 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 02:22 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: when i try run new isntance | 02:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: weird. i see it in apt-cache, but it is not installed | 02:23 |
| mrproper | Well that should break things for me adequately | 02:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | let me update and see what happens | 02:23 |
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| mrproper | kr4m3r: That probably does sound like an OVS or nova-net problem, both of which I'm less than familiar with | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, my system tells me my kernel packages were held back | 02:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if there's some update to the openstack packages since i installed | 02:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | someone else here mentioned that kernel package | 02:25 |
| szaus18 | i need hack the image launch in nova, to do something lie 'qemu-system-ppc -kernel uImage -initrd my.rootfs', how can I do that | 02:25 |
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| szaus18 | search the whole code based esp nove and could not find it | 02:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | ppc? | 02:25 |
| szaus18 | yes | 02:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i suspect you could boot the old kernel if it doesnt work | 02:26 |
| szaus18 | for x86 i could use the well-documentd steps | 02:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack doesn't support ppc | 02:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a dead architecture | 02:26 |
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| szaus18 | Sam-I-Am: which is what i'm working on, just need know where to hack that | 02:26 |
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| szaus18 | in fact openstack is running, well partially, except for the vm image and the way to launch it | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | its probably wherever it builds the qemu command for launching an instance | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | somewhere within the nova code is my guess | 02:27 |
| szaus18 | true, i just failed to find that | 02:27 |
| szaus18 | sigh | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova-compute... actually | 02:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just havent the faintest idea where | 02:27 |
| szaus18 | i could not find anything informative inside nove* | 02:27 |
| ekarlso | Sam-I-Am: you ever sleep ? :p | 02:27 |
| szaus18 | on how to qemu a uImage/rootfs instead a ami/qcow2 etc | 02:28 |
| kr4m3r | markpeek: you think the problem maybe hostname with - on the name? col-c00-host01 | 02:28 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: i got another error: nova baremetal-node-list | 02:30 |
| kr4m3r | ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-dd9d1d38-391f-4c5d-9db3-441a55a098cf) | 02:30 |
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| mrproper | What do your logs say? Probably a permission error. | 02:30 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Did you have to edit that sysctl file? | 02:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yes | 02:32 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Okay, making sure that's right. | 02:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | kr4m3r: do you actually have baremetal nodes? | 02:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | they're different than regular nodes | 02:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think you want nova hypervisor-list | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | szaus18: well, you could try asking on one of the -dev lists or in the -dev channel | 02:34 |
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| kr4m3r | Sam-I-Am: i have 1 server with ubuntu and install controller and 1 server with ubuntu and installed compute node | 02:38 |
| kr4m3r | exacly as http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/ say to install | 02:38 |
| kr4m3r | i have it installed on more than 20 hosts compute node and 4 controllers using CentOS but ubuntu got me crazy! | 02:39 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Ubuntu, how do I tell eth0 to not assign an IP address to it and put it in promisc | 02:44 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: auto eth0 | 02:46 |
| kr4m3r | iface eth0 manual | 02:46 |
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| mrproper | Ahhhh fuck, I think it decided to kill my network while I'm making that change. | 02:47 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: Error: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "network", RPC method: "allocate_for_instance" info: "<unknown>" | 02:47 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Any idea on his networking errors? | 02:47 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I'm having a bitch of a time with this interface config | 02:54 |
| mrproper | The br-ex line should look like what? | 02:55 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: what you need do? maybe i can help you :) | 02:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i've gotta go | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | some stuff came up | 02:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be back later | 02:58 |
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| mrproper | kr4m3r: Just get my interfaces on Ubuntu in line for br-ex and eth0 | 02:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: hold on a sec, i can get my configs for you before i wander for a bit | 02:59 |
| mrproper | k | 03:00 |
| mrproper | eth0 really doesn't want to drop its IP address | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: http://pastebin.com/2LrVjZ2C | 03:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats my network node | 03:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | there is no separate config for br-ex outside of the ovs-vsctl jazz | 03:02 |
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| kr4m3r | mrproper: have you create bridge interface? brctl add br-ex? | 03:03 |
| kr4m3r | after that you can setup your /etc/network/interfaces to use bridge | 03:03 |
| mrproper | kr4m3r: Yeah I did. Turns out I had to put that on my controller, which was a dumb mistake | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | there are no dumb mistakes with openstack, only time consuming learning adventures | 03:04 |
| kr4m3r | mrproper: lookt that. Compute_service record updated for col-c00-host01:col-c00-host01 <--- all the time my host update informations on Controller - wheel... servers are talking right? | 03:05 |
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| Offerlam | Hey openstackers!! I'm new to openstack and my company is currently explorering if openstack is the way to go... I have some question.. would someone mind a quick QnA? | 07:44 |
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| Ch00k | hi | 08:08 |
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| Ch00k | I'm having a problem launching instances after I set up Neutron networking | 08:08 |
| Ch00k | this is what I get in nova-compute.log on compute node https://gist.github.com/Ch00k/7750554 | 08:09 |
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| Ch00k | I followed the official Ubuntu installation guide | 08:10 |
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| Alienyyg | <Ch00k> something wrong with your neutron?? 2013-12-02 09:48:25.058 1574 ERROR nova.compute.manager [-] Instance failed network setup after 1 attempt(s) | 08:17 |
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| Ch00k | Alienyyg: it definitely is. I'm trying to find out how to debug it | 08:26 |
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| Offerlam | as fare as i have figured out with openstack.. you make VM images say of windows 2012.. you deploy X number of these VMs to a project which could be a customers infrastructor.. each vm will have a certain amount of space given to each ..but you can allso add more storage to the project through the volume manager - is this correct? | 08:28 |
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| fifieldt | Offerlam, that appears correct | 09:07 |
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| RaviTezu | Hi, I'm able to get a private ip from the dhcp server for instances and even I can assign a public to a instance if wanted. | 09:16 |
| RaviTezu | Can some one tell me the possible ways to maintain dns records for the instances on private/public networks? | 09:17 |
| RaviTezu | Thanks | 09:17 |
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| sgran | we just pre-generate the range | 09:17 |
| sgran | ie, $GENERATE 225-254 $ IN PTR 172-18-9-$.gc2.dc1.gnm. | 09:17 |
| RaviTezu | sgran: excuse me, was that for me? | 09:18 |
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| sgran | it was | 09:24 |
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| strikov | Hi guys! I have all-in-one openstack installation and want to add one more nova-compute on the external node (first nova-compute is on my all-in-one node) and setup networking with nova-network (flat dhcp). I want to achieve this network topology: http://www.mirantis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/flat-dhcp-networking-diagrams-4.png I have some progress in this direction and have nova-compute working on the external node (I can create kvm instance t | 10:13 |
| strikov | here). But I have some problems with networking. I have to restart nova-network service on my external node every time my all-in-one node changes dnsmasq config because it is not propagated automatically. Is it correct behavior? | 10:13 |
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| orion195 | hi guys | 10:52 |
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| orion195 | I'm running into this error | 10:53 |
| orion195 | while using the latest packstack version | 10:53 |
| orion195 | for fc19 with rdo havana | 10:53 |
| orion195 | Error: Puppet::Parser::AST::Resource failed with error ArgumentError: Could not find declared class ceilometer::agent::auth at /var/tmp/packstack/9f18c9e2960447d8ae9b1333b9eb57c9/manifests/10.0.2.15_nova.pp:119 | 10:53 |
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| orion195 | and if I disable ceilometer, I run into this: | 10:54 |
| orion195 | Error: Could not start Service[ovs-cleanup-service]: Execution of '/sbin/service neutron-ovs-cleanup start' returned 6: | 10:54 |
| orion195 | does anyone of you knows how to fix this? | 10:54 |
| orion195 | I'm using packstack: 0.16.dev870.fc20 | 10:55 |
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| orion195 | and it is also tracked on this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1014015 | 10:55 |
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| orion195 | any thoughts? | 11:01 |
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| BryanWB | is the glance registry global in Havana? or is it regional like on AWS? | 11:42 |
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| tennebrus_ | Hi, can anyone help me?? I'm trying to use the openstack API through curl, but I don't know why I can't get my X-Auth-Token right.. I do get the response about my token with "curl -d '{"auth":{"passwordCredentials":{"username": "user", "password": "pass"}}}' -H "Content-type: application/json" http://localhost:5000/v2.0/tokens" but the token ID is nothing like all examples I've read.. looks like a complete huge digital signature, an I ca | 12:12 |
| tennebrus_ | n't do any curl requests using this absurd id as X-Auth-Token, does anyone know what might be going on? | 12:12 |
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| tennebrus_ | Hi, can anyone help me?? I'm trying to use the openstack API through curl, but I don't know why I can't get my X-Auth-Token right.. I do get the response about my token with "curl -d '{"auth":{"passwordCredentials":{"username": "user", "password": "pass"}}}' -H "Content-type: application/json" http://localhost:5000/v2.0/tokens" but the token ID is nothing like all examples I've read.. | 12:40 |
| tennebrus_ | looks like a complete huge digital signature, an I can't do any curl requests using this absurd id as X-Auth-Token, does anyone know what might be going on? | 12:40 |
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| triplecheesesina | any suggestions on mapping what happens behind the scenes in the code for any given API call a user makes? | 14:04 |
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| tennebrus_ | has anyone here created a successful template for heat+ceilometer for autoscaling that actually works? I've been trying using ceilometer and heat only, and also mixing with AWS templates but I don't know why the scaling can't work. | 14:21 |
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| Egya_Koo | Evening All | 15:45 |
| Egya_Koo | How do I change the VNC resolution in openstack | 15:45 |
| Egya_Koo | The location mentioned in the dos doesn't seem to be on the system | 15:46 |
| Egya_Koo | We're using devstack - not sure if it makes any diff | 15:46 |
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| andyandy | on quantum.log I have 10 warning messages about extensions not supported like this one: WARNING [quantum.api.extensions] Extension router-service-type not supported by any of loaded plugins | 16:09 |
| andyandy | do you think there is a problem in my config files? | 16:10 |
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| SIB | Hello, I am getting "u'Timeout while waiting on RPC response " when trying to intall an instance.(Ubuntu13.10 + Havanna, default wiki instructions, using controler + compute1 node for nova compute). Any ideas which logs I should check for problems? | 16:31 |
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| SIB | Is there a different forum for questions? | 16:36 |
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| decede | SIB: yes | 16:37 |
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| decede | SIB: though this one is also valid | 16:37 |
| decede | https://ask.openstack.org | 16:38 |
| decede | or the user mailing list | 16:38 |
| SIB | I have already posted my question on ask.openstack if that is what you mean | 16:38 |
| SIB | Ill give the mailing list a try | 16:38 |
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| decede | SIB: What command is outputing "u'Timeout while waiting on RPC response"? | 16:40 |
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| decede | I think RPC is your messaging queue | 16:40 |
| SIB | nova show Id, in the fault section | 16:40 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Ugh, man, we fought that error for weeks. | 16:41 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | The RPC error refers to the messaging queue, rabbit or qpid, yeah. | 16:41 |
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| SIB | ok, so i should find the rabbitmq logs | 16:42 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Yes, that's a start, but if you're in the same hole we were in, the rabbit logs are clean. | 16:42 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Good day all | 16:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | does any one know what process updates it status for nova-compute in the DB to show it happy | 16:44 |
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| SIB | I just checked the rabbitmq logs, everything seems clean. | 16:44 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah okay, so what's the background here? Brand new install? Devstack? Neutron? Havana? | 16:44 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Gamekiller77: nova-api? Not sure I understand the question. | 16:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | so when you do a nova-manage service list | 16:45 |
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| SIB | Background: VM with 13.10 clean install, 2nd Vm with 13.10 clean install (for nova compute) | 16:45 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i get all the internal service like api and scheduler | 16:46 |
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| Gamekiller77 | but my two kvm node show XXX not :) | 16:46 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i did an upgrade of grizzly to havana | 16:46 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | oh, I believe its actually nova-compute that checks in with keystone and registers as happy or not? really not sure though | 16:47 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | SIB, Okay, so with our mess, it was our nova.conf on the control node. It was missing a bunch of stuff, but I feel like our problems were around adding neutron. | 16:47 |
| SIB | Most likely my problem has to do with nova-network | 16:48 |
| SIB | CaptainTacoSauce: i installed nova network on both controller andcompute | 16:48 |
| SIB | You can see my log here: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8036/error-deploying-vms-in-havana-timeout-while-waiting-on-rpc-response-without-neutronusing-1310/ | 16:48 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: are you using nova-network or neutron | 16:49 |
| SIB | nova network | 16:49 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok sorry can not help | 16:49 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Can you post your nova.conf too? | 16:50 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I'm much stronger on neutron than nova-network too. :-\ | 16:50 |
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| SIB | I wanted nova network for much simplier installation, because Im playing in vm's | 16:51 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Understandable, but I wanted to learn neutron because I knew that's what we'd use in a POC or prod environment. My stack is all VMs on my desktop at home. | 16:51 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | and they said 16GB of RAM was a waste of money :D | 16:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | lol | 16:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: what RPC backend you using | 16:52 |
| SIB | rabbitmq, the default | 16:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | did you activate the web mgmt | 16:53 |
| SIB | I have updated my ask page with the nova.conf file | 16:53 |
| SIB | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8036/error-deploying-vms-in-havana-timeout-while-waiting-on-rpc-response-without-neutronusing-1310/ | 16:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | so you can look at the ques | 16:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | neutron super chatty | 16:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | not sure if nova-network is or not | 16:53 |
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| SIB | It is possible I have the eth0/1 wrong, but I would like to see a log with errors and then change it. | 16:56 |
| openstackstatus | NOTICE: docs jobs are failing due to a full filesystem; fix eta 1750 UTC | 16:56 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB turn on debug and verbose it helps a lot | 16:57 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: Where do I do that? | 16:58 |
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| Gamekiller77 | nova.conf | 16:58 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah all the nova.conf entries seem to be there as far as I can tell :-\ | 16:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | debug = Ture | 16:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | True | 16:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | sorry | 16:58 |
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| Gamekiller77 | CaptainTacoSauce: yah i saw it too and it clean | 16:58 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | now I also ended up duplicating my controller's nova.conf in to my compute node's nova.conf -- many of the entries are probably ignored, but some are required | 17:00 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | also if you run 'nova --debug show [id]' ... you can get the actual API call itself and that can help to troubleshoot | 17:01 |
| Gamekiller77 | i agree with CaptainTacoSauce i did the same thing | 17:01 |
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| jfarschman | I could use some help with DNS in a multi-compute node environment. In my config, each compute node is also a network node and they manage DNS independently of each other. | 17:02 |
| jfarschman | how do unify this. | 17:02 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | we have to assume your hosts file entries are valid but if it was me, I'd be triple checking those as well :D | 17:02 |
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| szaus18 | i have to do powerpc, quite a few packages for openstack are missing on ubuntu 13.10(e.g. nova-compute-kvm has no powerpc version), is it better off to use debian/wheezy/havana/powerpc? | 17:09 |
| szaus18 | tried to compile those unsupported packages one by one is a PITS | 17:09 |
| szaus18 | plus they're untested even i can somehow build them all from source | 17:09 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | why the tie to powerpc? are you an IBM shop? do they still run that? | 17:10 |
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| Egya_Koo | hmm | 17:11 |
| Egya_Koo | Still waiting for answer to a question I asked earlier | 17:11 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Egya_Koo, I wasn't here then. Ask again. | 17:11 |
| jfarschman | szaus18: it does sound like you have a difficult path with the powerpc | 17:11 |
| Egya_Koo | How do I change the res in the VNC please guys ? | 17:12 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | The resolution? It's based on the guest VM's display res. | 17:12 |
| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce: I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 | 17:12 |
| Egya_Koo | yes please | 17:12 |
| szaus18 | CaptainTacoSauce: it's my job :) | 17:12 |
| Egya_Koo | Just want to make a bigger in a browser to display seismic data better | 17:13 |
| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce : ty | 17:13 |
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| szaus18 | jfarschman: yes, working on it, checking at http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/ now | 17:13 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Egya_Koo, Hmm, can you just change the resolution of the guest? | 17:14 |
| Egya_Koo | yeah | 17:14 |
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| jfarschman | szaus18: The Debian Wheezy guide is pretty good. I worked through it before and it was solid. But I don't have advice about the poweroc | 17:14 |
| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce - Tried that . Made no difference | 17:14 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Egya_Koo, So what happens? The guest resolution changes but the browser window doesn't grow? | 17:14 |
| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce - Yeah | 17:15 |
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| szaus18 | jfarschman: thanks, at least for debian i would expect it supports _all_ archs when a release is made, true? | 17:15 |
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| jfarschman | true | 17:15 |
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| szaus18 | ubuntu is getting selective(amd64,i386,armhf) | 17:16 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Egya_Koo, Oh I see. Hmm. Not sure I have a soluton for you there. I think the VNC console is more for emergency repair access. You can't just ssh/rdp in to the guest to see this seismic data directly? | 17:16 |
| SIB | CaptainTacoSauce: my nova show with debug : http://pastebin.com/KxMwm02S | 17:17 |
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| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce: yeah ...we were just exploring this as an option for some our clients | 17:17 |
| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce: Thanks m8 | 17:17 |
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| syed_armani | Hello folks! | 17:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Egya_Koo, Sure. Wish I had a quick fix for you. | 17:17 |
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| Egya_Koo | CaptainTacoSauce: take care | 17:17 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | SIB, Yeah man this looks more and more like my issue. network.compute1 RPC method -- timeout while waiting on RPC response, except of course mine was neutron | 17:19 |
| syed_armani | Horizon is showing me incorrect usage statics. I tried to fix it by making changes in database but its kind of a hack. Whenever there is a zombie instance. It just refuse to go away and then i have to manually delete it from the databae. Which however result in incorrect usage details in horizon | 17:19 |
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| syed_armani | I am sure, people must have faced this before | 17:20 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | So the error isn't actually thrown from nova show. It's presumably from nova attempting to build the network for the guest. Is there such a thing as nova-network.log? | 17:20 |
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| syed_armani | Can anyone tell me a proper fix for this problem? | 17:21 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | syed_armani, Why are you getting zombies? Can you not boot and delete instances reliably? | 17:21 |
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| syed_armani | CaptainTacoSauce: If an instance failed to boot, I am not able to delete it in the usual fashion. | 17:22 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | syed_armani, Yeah I think that's the problem you need to focus on. Not horizon's reports. No matter what happens, nova delete should work and almost instantly. | 17:22 |
| syed_armani | CaptainTacoSauce: It become a zombie instance and then i have to manually remove from db | 17:22 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Surely there's an entry in one of your logs when you try to nova delete. | 17:23 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I had this problem as well, I should have kept better notes on all the problems I ran in to. :D | 17:24 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | SIB, did you copy controller's nova.conf to compute node's nova.conf? Is there a nova network log? | 17:24 |
| SIB | CaptainTacoSauce: I am pasting nova network log at the moment. I did not copy any nova.conf. I added whaterver the tutorial asked | 17:25 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Okay, it might be worth trying. If only to take a backup of the original nova.conf and just place your controller's nova.conf there as well. They both need to be able to reach rabbit and mysql. | 17:26 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | And know where to send network build requests etc. | 17:26 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: check rabbit to make sure the all hosts and services have registered | 17:27 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: by check what do u mean? | 17:28 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | syed_armani, nova-manage service list shows everyone happy? I'd put money down there's a communication problem between one of the services | 17:28 |
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| Gamekiller77 | do you have the web interface running on your rabbit install | 17:28 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | either nova can't pick up from the AMQP queue or clean the entry from the database or nova is waiting on network to delete and network doesn't respond. something. | 17:28 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: nope, the dashboard is to be installed after i have a working instance | 17:29 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | SIB, Gamekiller77 : As a shortcut to that, if you see a happy connection in rabbit's logs accepted for the virtual host and user in question with the appropriate timestamp, we should be able to skip all that. | 17:29 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I am doubting its rabbit's problem. | 17:29 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Rabbit has it own | 17:29 |
| Gamekiller77 | SIB: run this on the rabbit host | 17:30 |
| Gamekiller77 | rabbitmq-plugins enable rabbitmq_management | 17:30 |
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| Gamekiller77 | then go to http://yourhost:15672/ | 17:30 |
| Gamekiller77 | use your username and password | 17:30 |
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| Gamekiller77 | this way you can see if the hosts are even talking to rabbit | 17:31 |
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| syed_armani | CaptainTacoSauce: No, all is well there. | 17:31 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: rabbit management running, I see only the controller though in the node list | 17:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | good then you know there all there so that one less thing | 17:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | do you see a que for nova networking | 17:37 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: in the queue section, I see network, network.compute1, network.ucloud | 17:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: good so that there now why is nova compute and nova networking not talking via those is the question | 17:38 |
| Gamekiller77 | did you add the nova.conf from your compute nodes to the ask | 17:39 |
| SIB | Gamekiller77: i will post the compute1 conf file shortley | 17:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ok cool | 17:39 |
| SIB | jinx u owe me a coke | 17:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | going to hunt down my problem now | 17:39 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: my nova.conf file for compute1: http://pastebin.com/eivjJS56 | 17:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | are you compute nodes and control on the same node | 17:44 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: Contoller is a node and compute node is another | 17:44 |
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| SIB | (ucloud is countroller, compute1 is compute node | 17:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok so i see one problem | 17:45 |
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| Gamekiller77 | you have rabbit_host=ucloud this twice with no rabbit username | 17:45 |
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| Gamekiller77 | just password | 17:45 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: here it doesn't tell me to add username http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html | 17:47 |
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| SIB | number 5 | 17:47 |
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| Gamekiller77 | you need it to auth so i would the docs are not the best bro they are some times half right. I tend to use a mix of doc to get stuff up | 17:49 |
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| SIB | ill give it a shot | 17:50 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | agreed, the docs are not rock solid, there are so many variables for each component, and every build is different, but if you created the rabbit user, you need to express it in the config files | 17:50 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | still strange that it would be "timeout while waiting on rpc response" instead of 401 unauthorized though | 17:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB also i found this helpful when looking at setting use by defualt or set. Setup debug stop the service. then tail -f the log you get an output of the setting used by that service | 17:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | then start the service sorry | 17:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | it will print every setting that used for a service | 17:53 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: my Controller nova.conf doesn't use the username though | 17:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | you need it if you put the password line | 17:54 |
| Gamekiller77 | from what i seen | 17:54 |
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| SIB | the user is guest, whihc is default | 17:54 |
| SIB | how can i tell if my controller talks to rabbitmq? | 17:55 |
| SIB | also i will try the debug u mentioned above | 17:55 |
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| Gamekiller77 | your right if user is guest then you do not need to but i still do | 17:55 |
| Gamekiller77 | that debug trick helps you make sure | 17:55 |
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| SIB | can u write teh debug trick again, im not sure what to do | 17:56 |
| Gamekiller77 | just | 17:56 |
| Gamekiller77 | debug = true | 17:56 |
| Gamekiller77 | and verbose = true | 17:56 |
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| Gamekiller77 | with in the {defaul] part of all opst items | 17:56 |
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| SIB | I added verbose to nova.conf in teh controller, going to add debug +verbose to compute1 nova.conf file | 17:58 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: make sure you remove it after you done testing as the log files get super big | 17:58 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i had a Ceph node of mine die from running our to disk space got close to that on my neutron server too | 17:59 |
| Gamekiller77 | i found the network service to be super chatty | 17:59 |
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| SIB | I added verbose and debug, goign to restart the vm's to make sure everything restarts | 18:00 |
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| tennebrus_ | has anyone here created a successful template for heat+ceilometer for autoscaling that actually works? I've been trying using ceilometer and heat only, and also mixing with AWS templates but I don't know why the scaling can't work. | 18:01 |
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| Gamekiller77 | tennebrus_: i working on getting my setup stabel then that next sorry can not help at this time | 18:02 |
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| tennebrus_ | Gamekiller77: ok dude, ty, just trying to see if anyone could get that to work | 18:05 |
| Gamekiller77 | from what i heard it not easy | 18:06 |
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| Gamekiller77 | what you using at the core distro | 18:06 |
| Gamekiller77 | in the VM | 18:06 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: controller/compute are alive again.. what should i try now | 18:07 |
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| linea | Hello can anyone provide a replay i have a sample swift cluster running i am using ftpcloudfs its working well with swauth but not with tempauth . Any solutions | 18:16 |
| notmyname | linea: what are you seeing? | 18:16 |
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| linea | notmyname: i am getting 503 error | 18:18 |
| notmyname | linea: do you have access to the logs? | 18:18 |
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| linea | notmyname: Yup its a test machine | 18:18 |
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| kordex | Does anyone have a sample working configuration of havana with neutron for ceilometer? | 18:18 |
| kordex | in my "working" configuration it's asking nova about floating ip's and it's 404 of course | 18:19 |
| notmyname | linea: first find the 503 error response. see if there are any other log messages around there. if possible, put it up on http://paste.openstack.org (if it's publicly accessible, you should scrub IPs and/or tokens) | 18:20 |
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| linea | notmyname m attaching logs and conf via paste | 18:21 |
| SIB | CaptainLunchSauc: Do you have any more ideas? Where i should look | 18:21 |
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| linea | notmyname: Kindly look into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515816/ | 18:23 |
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| linea | notmyname: I think the logs contain both info about swauth and tempauth. | 18:24 |
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| notmyname | linea: the logs you pasted have some curl commands. do they work? ie can you auth with curl or do you get an error doing that? | 18:28 |
| notmyname | linea: the part of the proxy config you pasted doesn't have any reference to swauth | 18:28 |
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| linea | notmyname: I removed them to try tempauth i can paste again proxy with swauth | 18:29 |
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| linea | swauth filter part http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515852/ | 18:30 |
| linea | notmyname: swauth filter part http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515852/ | 18:31 |
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| linea | notmyname: Yes its working with swift command i am getting stat curl also will work right? | 18:33 |
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| notmyname | linea: curl should work (and is pretty much the closest you'll get to the swift API without writing your own script | 18:34 |
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| notmyname | linea: ok, if it's working with the swift cli and it's working with curl (with both tempauth and swauth) that would point to ftpcloudfs as the issue | 18:34 |
| linea | notmyname: Yes i have posted the same issue way back but then i just moved ahead with swauth i think its some kind of bug or config error i dont know | 18:36 |
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| notmyname | linea: I am not familiar with ftpcloudfs, so I'm sorry i can't help you there. but I'll be happy to help if you have issues getting the swift cli or other API requests working | 18:38 |
| SIB | Gamekiller77: CaptainLunchSauc Is it wiser to go for neutron? Or will I have harder problems there? | 18:38 |
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| linea | notmyname: Its a strong feature i think its very important as we think as a client :) anyway thanx for the help how can i report such issues to developers ? | 18:40 |
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| notmyname | linea: oh I'm not saying ftpcloudfs isn't useful to you. as to finding swift devs, you're in the right place | 18:45 |
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| linea | notmyname:I am now testing swftp i think both are same i want to see if the same error happening or not :) | 18:47 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: it hard but the way to go. I would say stick with OVS as your switch provider | 18:48 |
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| SIB | i would really prefer not to use it, since i need a very small group of nodes wokring(for my thesis)... but i dont know what to look for anymore | 18:49 |
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| linea | notmyname: Done its working fine with swftp so ftpcloudfs bug :) thanx for the help | 18:52 |
| notmyname | linea: any time | 18:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: i would say try neutron do you have to build the nodes your self of can you use a system builder. What your thesis about if I can ask | 19:13 |
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| SIB | Gamekiller77: I am building the nodes myself but can use anything I wish. If you have some tool that works well im all ears. My thesis, if i get openstack working(i have tried with xenserver, with mass+juju, and now with clean 13.10), will be around db's and some sort of communication(sending a dv from one vm to another, or sharding or something) | 19:24 |
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| Gamekiller77 | SIB: private message me | 19:24 |
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| tms | Heh, on a 240 circuit my switches are reporting a voltage of 268. That seems like an amusing data point to me. Also, I wonder when I should expect to start smelling smoke. | 20:25 |
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| Underbyte | question -- is it generally a bad idea to try and have your compute & your control on the same hardware? | 20:34 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I wouldn't go so far as to say bad idea. It's just a scalability issue. You want your compute nodes to do as little else as possible. Leave all that computing power for... compute. Having said that, all the guides, even the PoC guides, isolate them. | 20:35 |
| ewindisch | there is some benefit to isolation, security-wise as well | 20:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | hey guys do you know if a compute node in havana needs conductor installed | 20:41 |
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| Underbyte | CaptainTacoSauce: well the original idea for us was a relatively low-cost solution initially minimized the BOM but could be scaled up (both through hardware upgrades and additional nodes) relatively easily as we need them down the lines. the initial idea was to first have a single node that did the work of both, and then when we needed to scale beyond that, we would buy another server and split them into dedicated computing and control nodes | 20:42 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Gamekiller77, Nope. Mine doesn't have it. nova-conductor is only running on the control node. | 20:42 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Underbyte, I think you will be able to build a functioning environment, but I would buck up and get at least 2 or 3 nodes first. There are many designs available, and keep in mind you can use VMs for many of the components if you already have a hypervisor available. | 20:43 |
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| Underbyte | just how much computing power does the control elements of openStack need? I thought it's overhead was relatively lightweight compared to AIX, VMWare and the others | 20:45 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | If you've got vmware or a traditional xen/kvm box sitting around, a small guest can run and do rabbitmq and mysql, and another small guest can run the nova control, keystone, and horizon services until you grow. Keep your metal for compute. | 20:45 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Well we're getting out of the area of me knowing what I'm talking about but again its all scale. For a PoC with less than a dozen VMs, you can squeeze all the control elements on a box with half a gig of RAM. | 20:46 |
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| Underbyte | whoah | 20:46 |
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| Underbyte | once your stack is up and running is it relatively easy to add nodes down the line? | 20:47 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | oh I lied, I use 800M of RAM on my control node now but I keep adding stuff to it | 20:47 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | um, yeah, depending on your initial design, it shouldn't be harder than it would be up front... if that makes any sense | 20:47 |
| ewindisch | 512MB of ram is a bit too thin. I've gotten a skeletal Nova-only OpenStack install running on a RaspberryPi, but it was swapping like a beast | 20:48 |
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| morganfainberg | ewindisch, on a RaspberryPi?! that sounds entertaining to say the least | 20:48 |
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| Underbyte | well, we have some pretty powerful hardware lying around (32-core 2U HP servers), but they are all currently in use. My hope is that once we have a stack up and running, i can cannibalize other hardware that we have and move everything on that hardware to the cloud | 20:48 |
| Underbyte | (and by cloud i mean openstack, not meaning it in that BS marketing way) | 20:49 |
| ewindisch | morganfainberg: I had to do something with the rPi they gave out at Pycon. | 20:49 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Underbyte, Aye, that sounds like what I would do. Get some VMs up for all the basic components, and then start plugging in hardware compute nodes as you can. | 20:49 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | My entire environment lives inside of VMWare inside of Windows on my gaming desktop at home, and it runs great. | 20:50 |
| morganfainberg | ewindisch, ah yes. New emerging market! RaspberryPi-As-A-Service! | 20:50 |
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| morganfainberg | rPiAAS? | 20:50 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | My project to build production got put on hold, but we were designing for scale. | 20:50 |
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| Underbyte | CaptianTacoSauce: Can i have the control daemons inside a VM that is being run by the same hypervisor that the control node itself is controlling? | 20:56 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Underbyte, My head is spinning. No, I don't think you'll be able to pull that off. | 20:56 |
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| Underbyte | lol, yeah i thought that was a little to "inception-y" to sound like it would work | 20:56 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | But if you have two metal boxes, one dedicated to compute, and the rest as a hypervisor with the remaining components in x number of guest VMs, that is totally doable. | 20:57 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | This leaves little flexibility for the cinder/swift but you can always branch those off later. | 20:58 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | To be fair, it is possible to run nova-compute inside of a hypervisor, but for PoC only for obvious reasons. | 20:58 |
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| Underbyte | what exactly does nova-compute do? | 20:59 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | In short: create virtual machines using the hypervisor you specified (in my case, KVM). | 21:00 |
| Underbyte | i mean in traditional VM setups, you have the OS guest -> Hypervisor (QEMU/kvm) -> Guest OS | 21:00 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | That is also true for nova-compute, but you can trim down the host OS to some degree, though I run essentially out-of-the-box Ubuntu saucy. | 21:00 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | It sounds like you're flirting with the question "Why Openstack and not [VMWare / insert enterprise server virt here]?" which is essentially "What does Cloud do for me that server virt doesn't?" | 21:01 |
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| Mongo2 | nova also tracks resource utilization and allocation | 21:02 |
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| Underbyte | CaptainTacoSauce: does "Node" == "Physical metal box" ? | 21:11 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Underbyte, Oh, yes, to me it does, but that's probably a me thing more than an openstack thing. | 21:11 |
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| Underbyte | so node itself *could* mean VM (not that i want to go down that route, i just want to make sure i have my jargon dead-on) | 21:11 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | um, you lost me, but yes, I have *every* component in a VM today, and it works as long as I don't outgrow the resources I can assign to each VM. | 21:12 |
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| Underbyte | okay so the control node is a physical box with a bunch of VM's in it that actually run the components of openStack, and the compute node is the node where the cloud instances (the actual VM's where your trying to do stuff) are running. did i get that right? | 21:14 |
| Underbyte | (the compute node being a physical box too) | 21:14 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Underbyte, Yep. That's the scenario I'm suggesting, you got it. | 21:14 |
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| Underbyte | i see. | 21:15 |
| Underbyte | hmm. | 21:15 |
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| Underbyte | so you could theoretically go fairly cheap on your control server (such as a 1U basic dell application server), and beef up your compute node with lots of RAID storage and HA redundancy and the like? | 21:16 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | ummm, almost :D | 21:16 |
| Underbyte | uh oh | 21:16 |
| Underbyte | what did i miss? :P | 21:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | your VMs will be using compute (CPU/RAM) from the compute node ... but its storage will likely come from glance/cinder | 21:17 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | glance/cinder in the scenario I presented will live on your infrastructure node (calling it control node will cause more confusion, the host where all the component VMs live) | 21:17 |
| Underbyte | what does that mean from an architechtural standpoint? | 21:18 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | so *that* node, the one where glance/cinder live ... should probably be where you put your storage, unless you want that to be a third box :D | 21:18 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | by all means, take this as brainstorming and build your own design, my main point was leave the compute node with as few components on it as possible :D | 21:19 |
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| Underbyte | well i'm a little new to cloud computing, and less new to virtualization in general | 21:19 |
| Underbyte | (although i've had plenty of *nix systems experience) | 21:19 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | okay so what virt do you know? vmware with vcenter and shared storage? | 21:20 |
| * Underbyte snickers | 21:20 | |
| Underbyte | virtualbox | 21:20 |
| Underbyte | seriously | 21:20 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | ahh okay :D | 21:20 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | so the concept of decoupling the storage from the cpu/ram might be somewhat new to you in practice | 21:20 |
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| Underbyte | exactly | 21:20 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | in enterprise vmware, you just plug in a SAN and address that space with FibreChannel calls or iSCSI or whatever | 21:20 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Glance uses iSCSI commands | 21:21 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | (guys correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm really out of my expertise) | 21:21 |
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| Underbyte | yeah, i'm familiar with what a SAN is and i've used one (but not implemented one) in previous jobs | 21:21 |
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| Underbyte | brb, restroom | 21:21 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | So in openstack, the VMs run on the compute node, but the storage lives across the network. | 21:21 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | It gets even more confusing because your VM, uses CPU/RAM from the compute node, mounts it's "hard drive" via glance, which may in turn store the glance image in swift (object storage) | 21:22 |
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| Underbyte | CaptainTacoSauce: I'm afraid i have no funds for a consultancy fee, but would you be willing to walk me through in brief what a basic openstack setup would look like from an infastructure standpoint? The boss has said that word has come down from on high that whatever solution we implement would ideally suffice for 2-3 years | 21:32 |
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| * Underbyte has doubts of a 2-3 year solution being able to be had for $7K, but i may be wrong | 21:33 | |
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| devoid | hi folks, I'm having trouble getting keystone bootstrapped in havana | 21:34 |
| devoid | I can do "keystone user-role-add —user admin —role admin —tenant admin" | 21:34 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Underbyte: the problem here is that vertical stack and for horizontal stack VMs are tow different games | 21:34 |
| Underbyte | what do you mean by that? | 21:35 |
| Gamekiller77 | it a long topic | 21:35 |
| devoid | but once I drop OS_SERVICE_TOKEN and OS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT and add the OS_USERNAME + OS_PASSWORD the token I get doesn't contain the correct roles | 21:35 |
| Gamekiller77 | but VMware ESXi is vertical | 21:35 |
| devoid | "user": {"username": "admin", "roles_links": [], "id": "a0f8d1ec9da344418f02947fc6e9ba6d", "roles": [], "name": "root"}, "metadata": {"is_admin": 0, "roles": []}} | 21:35 |
| devoid | in the token | 21:35 |
| Gamekiller77 | Openstack is vertical | 21:35 |
| Gamekiller77 | yes you can use ESXi as backend | 21:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | you have to look it up | 21:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | but the VMs are really not permanent | 21:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | VMs are ephemeral | 21:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | it a hard concept to understand unless you read a lot | 21:36 |
| * Underbyte is having difficulty finding pages that describe the topic on google | 21:37 | |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah I'm not even sure what you mean by vertical. | 21:37 |
| Underbyte | i mean i know the difference between vertical and horizontal scalability | 21:38 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | You don't mean that you can scale your VMs up on a single host and then horizontally across multiple hosts? | 21:38 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Gamekiller77, The non-permanent nature of glance images is only assuming you don't do a volume copy first, right? | 21:39 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | errr I said that wrong | 21:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | volume boot | 21:39 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | The non-permanent nature of virtual machines spawned from glance images... | 21:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | but still it differnt | 21:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | the networking differnt too | 21:40 |
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| Gamekiller77 | in nature a vertical stack is not limited by racks networks or DC locations | 21:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | sorry other way around | 21:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | vertical stack with in a rack | 21:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | for AZ and other stuff you want to flatten that out | 21:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | like what google amazon and facebooks does | 21:41 |
| Underbyte | AZ? | 21:41 |
| Gamekiller77 | a rack outage should not make your service fail | 21:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Availability zone | 21:41 |
| Underbyte | well our private cloud will be initially used to provide IT and development infastructure services internally | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | i have had main heated talks about this at work | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | same here | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | but i have a global presents | 21:42 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | hmm okay, you're speaking to openstack being robust? designed to fail, etc? | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | yes | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | the level of HA | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | openstack hardware should have no HA | 21:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | single psu | 21:43 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | okay that makes more sense | 21:43 |
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| Gamekiller77 | nothing like in VMware space | 21:43 |
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| Gamekiller77 | the HA should live in the App | 21:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | not in the VM | 21:43 |
| Underbyte | whoah, really? | 21:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | or the way the VM lives | 21:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah man | 21:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | that is the big one that people do not get | 21:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | about Cloud | 21:43 |
| * Underbyte was taught that HA = hardware redundancy | 21:43 | |
| Gamekiller77 | nope | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | not any more | 21:44 |
| Underbyte | so what about a disk failure, for example? | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | the big boys do not do that any more | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | what about it | 21:44 |
| devoid | ... | 21:44 |
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| Gamekiller77 | if you using swift or ceph | 21:44 |
| Gamekiller77 | it will replicate | 21:44 |
| Underbyte | well in a traditional architechture, you would use a hardware level redundancy system (RAID 5/6) to prevent a hardware failure from turning into any real dataloss | 21:45 |
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| Gamekiller77 | think of this as a hive setup | 21:45 |
| devoid | Gamekiller77 if you can get ceph to work from the start | 21:45 |
| Underbyte | oh god ceph | 21:45 |
| * Underbyte gets scared | 21:45 | |
| devoid | Gamekiller77: not necessarily true | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | devoid i did | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | got 2 clusters | 21:45 |
| devoid | ceph-deploy is a nightmare | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | what version | 21:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | newest one is easy | 21:45 |
| * notmyname can answer swift questions | 21:45 | |
| devoid | idk, cuttlefish? | 21:46 |
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| Gamekiller77 | go to dumpleing | 21:46 |
| devoid | o.o ok, I'll forward that to the guy who's in charge of that stuff. | 21:46 |
| Gamekiller77 | Emperor ceph-deploy rocks btw | 21:46 |
| Gamekiller77 | but it not prod ready | 21:46 |
| Gamekiller77 | wait for FireFly | 21:46 |
| devoid | not sure if ceph is prod ready | 21:47 |
| devoid | . | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | i am working with them a lot | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | the inktank guys | 21:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | i playing with a lot of high end hardware so i cheat | 21:47 |
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| devoid | after ~20 machines, we couldn't get quorum. | 21:47 |
| devoid | also lacks RDMA support. | 21:47 |
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| Gamekiller77 | what access method devoid | 21:48 |
| Gamekiller77 | Ceph is like a basket of methods to get data | 21:48 |
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| devoid | Gamekiller: just maintaining the cluster quorum. | 21:48 |
| devoid | rdma for replication | 21:49 |
| devoid | as a base case. | 21:49 |
| devoid | anyhow, that's more of a discussion for #ceph | 21:49 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah | 21:50 |
| Gamekiller77 | it took me while to get it stable | 21:50 |
| devoid | I still have an open keystone problem if there are any folks here that can assist. | 21:50 |
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| Gamekiller77 | devoid: what up | 21:50 |
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| Underbyte | okay | 21:50 |
| Gamekiller77 | i got keystone up on havana | 21:50 |
| Underbyte | let me ask something in a bit different way | 21:50 |
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| devoid | keystone user-add-role —user admin —role admin —tenant admin | 21:50 |
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| dolphm | devoid: use OS_TENANT_NAME=admin in addition | 21:51 |
| Gamekiller77 | do you have like a export file | 21:51 |
| dolphm | devoid: also checkout `keystone help bootstrap` | 21:51 |
| devoid | dolphm: shouldn't it pick one if it doesn't have one? | 21:51 |
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| devoid | dolphm: I saw that, what does bootstrap do exactly? | 21:51 |
| Gamekiller77 | i have a file called keystone_admin | 21:51 |
| dolphm | devoid: only if you assigned 'admin' as the user's default tenant | 21:51 |
| Gamekiller77 | and a script to add all base users and roles and stuff | 21:51 |
| dolphm | devoid: creates a user, creates a role, creates a tenant, and does a user-role-add with the three of them | 21:51 |
| dolphm | devoid: it's just a shortcut for the common pattern | 21:52 |
| Underbyte | Gamekiller77, CaptainTacoSauce: Suppose that i'm an engineer (who does has years of classical linux sysadmin experience) who was chosen to head up our newly-minted "DevOps" initiative. I'm expected to design an implement an OpenStack solution at our workplace at some point, and i have little knowledge of cloud architechture or operations. What would be a good way for me to solve this problem? | 21:52 |
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| Underbyte | (and by engineer i mean software engineer) | 21:52 |
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| Underbyte | is there a bible i should read or something that will englighten me? | 21:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Underbyte: i would go to a meetup or openstack users | 21:53 |
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| Gamekiller77 | and play with this http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 21:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | that how i demo openstack to my bosses on CentOS | 21:53 |
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| dolphm | Underbyte: maybe something like https://github.com/stackforge/openstack-chef-repo if you want to jump straight into automation | 21:53 |
| devoid | dolphm: what's the command for setting default project? | 21:53 |
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| devoid | also can a user be part of multiple domains? | 21:54 |
| dolphm | devoid: when creating or updating a user, specify a tenant | 21:54 |
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| Underbyte | i've played with and have gotten VM's running on devstack, Gamekiller77 | 21:54 |
| dolphm | devoid: users can have role assignment on multiple domains | 21:54 |
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| dolphm | devoid: i.e. you can have authorization in multiple domains | 21:54 |
| devoid | and what are "groups" | 21:54 |
| dolphm | devoid: but the user's identity only exists in a single domain | 21:54 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok cool then start to read there lot of private cloud books on amazon | 21:54 |
| dolphm | devoid: they're just user groups | 21:54 |
| devoid | (new in the db since essex) | 21:54 |
| Underbyte | Gamekiller77: there is no meetup in my area | 21:54 |
| dolphm | devoid: assign roles to groups, then add users to the group to gain authz | 21:54 |
| devoid | so domains, projects, roles and groups. | 21:55 |
| devoid | Ah | 21:55 |
| Gamekiller77 | Underbyte: ok the San Francisco group dose more of there via WebEx or stream | 21:55 |
| Gamekiller77 | most* | 21:55 |
| dolphm | devoid: groups are only exposed by https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient | 21:55 |
| dolphm | devoid: on hte CLI | 21:55 |
| Underbyte | interesting | 21:55 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i am the lead to my DevOps team | 21:56 |
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| Underbyte | small buissness? large enterprise? whats your use-casE? | 21:57 |
| Underbyte | s/E/e/g | 21:57 |
| Gamekiller77 | FYI guys Havana compute nodes need nova-compute and nova-condutor on them | 21:57 |
| Gamekiller77 | let just say i work for a very large company | 21:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | you can private message me | 21:58 |
| tdanzig | Gamekiller77: the docs don't mention needing nova-conductor on compute nodes | 21:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | tdanzig: i know but it would not register with the the DB | 21:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | the second i added it it worked | 21:58 |
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| Gamekiller77 | also logs said could not talk to conductor | 21:59 |
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| tdanzig | I've set up compute nodes without nova-conductor, maybe your controller host didn't have nova-conductor running? | 21:59 |
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| Gamekiller77 | let me check | 22:03 |
| Gamekiller77 | is there a setting in the nova.conf to point to a conductor | 22:03 |
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| Gamekiller77 | tdanzig: this is from my nova ctrl openstack-nova-conductor (pid 1993) is running... | 22:05 |
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| pashdown | is this the right place for installation questions? | 22:06 |
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| Gamekiller77 | most times pashdown | 22:07 |
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| pashdown | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-controller.html .ini file port = 5000, http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html .ini port=35357. which is it, or am i understanding this wrong? | 22:07 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Underbyte, Still around? I had a walkup. | 22:10 |
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| Underbyte | yep | 22:10 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I would just say whip out your nearest virtualbox with a few gigs of free ram, and build openstack with the havana guide. You will force yourself to learn all the concepts along the way. | 22:11 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | Then you can use that new understanding to design your PoC with real metal. I think you'll really like it once you build it. | 22:11 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Especially if you're looking at devops, you stick juju on openstack and you can deploy any development stack with a pretty GUI in an automated fashion, its slick. | 22:11 |
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| Gamekiller77 | pashdown: there differnt use case | 22:12 |
| Gamekiller77 | 5000 will trandlate out to 35357 | 22:12 |
| Gamekiller77 | 5000 is like the open port where 35357 you need access rights | 22:12 |
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| pashdown | does 5000 require the admin_password? | 22:14 |
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| kh0d | Hi | 22:15 |
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| kh0d | I ave a small plan but not sure if i could do that with openstack | 22:16 |
| kh0d | I want to host images on a separate openstack cloud | 22:16 |
| kh0d | with direct urls to them | 22:16 |
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| kh0d | but i don't want them to be accessible without some kind of generetad token for those urls | 22:16 |
| kh0d | the images with the token should be viewable in browsers | 22:17 |
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| Gamekiller77 | pashdown: 5000 is used by the cluster | 22:17 |
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| pashdown | ok | 22:17 |
| kh0d | can I accomplish this with openstack? | 22:17 |
| pashdown | thank you gamekiller | 22:18 |
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| Jokke_ | kh0d: are you talking about images like .png and .jpg or images like .iso .qcow2 etc? | 22:22 |
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| Gamekiller77 | tdanzig: do i need any service endpoints for the conductor or anything in the config file for nova.conf on a compute node | 22:23 |
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| kh0d | photo images (jpg only ) | 22:24 |
| kh0d | :) | 22:24 |
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| Jokke_ | kh0d: ok, so what's your problem there? I'd say that's pretty trivial web page functionality regardless the platform, or cdn if it's big enough, but your description does not sound like that. | 22:26 |
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| kh0d | there's gonna be tons of images that are supose to be hoste elsewhere on a secure location (on a storage service provider) | 22:27 |
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| kh0d | i imagined to have a hash token that would be sent with the image url in the <img src attribute | 22:28 |
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| kh0d | which would be used to allow the user the access that image, that is for it to be displayed in the browser | 22:29 |
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| Jokke_ | so you don't want the imag to be provided to your users by your web-server but just get them pulling it directly from the storage provider? | 22:30 |
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| kh0d | exactly | 22:31 |
| kh0d | the web server would provide just the urls | 22:31 |
| kh0d | but we don't want for every image to be always accessible if you just have the url (like facebook does) | 22:31 |
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| tdanzig | Gamekiller77: I just followed http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html | 22:32 |
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| Jokke_ | definitely doable, the problem is that you need to get the cdn either authenticating your tokens form your servers, or your servers doing the authentication from the cdn and relay the token to the user ... neither way does not sound like something any cdn would like to do. I think easier way would be to use some RMA solution, store the images encrypted and provide the client key for that when they authenticate agains your server | 22:34 |
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| kh0d | Would that mean that the url wold be always availble only if one knows the url? | 22:36 |
| Jokke_ | what you could do is to run secondary webserver for example on some cloud provider, make your own token system that needs to be relayed to that and let it provide the pictures to your users | 22:36 |
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| Jokke_ | the url would be and they could download the image, but they would not be able to open it | 22:36 |
| Jokke_ | but I think that second option would be way easier and cheaper to implement | 22:36 |
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| usergroup | I am getting an error when installing DevSatack: http://pastebin.com/b2hYMxJS | 22:44 |
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| usergroup | I updated my systema nd EPEL is upto date | 22:45 |
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| thansen | I've stepped through the rdo tutorials and have a couple machines getting ips in private space | 23:17 |
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| thansen | I was given a .1 default route and .2 dns | 23:17 |
| thansen | I don't see these on the controller interfaces anywhere | 23:17 |
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| thansen | basically I'm just trying to get basic outbound connectivity to the internet on each machine | 23:18 |
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| Gamekiller77 | thansen: you need to setup a external network with IP that live on the public network with no DHCP | 23:34 |
| Gamekiller77 | then setup floating IPs | 23:35 |
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| thansen | in order for a vm to get 'out' I need a floating IP? | 23:35 |
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| Gamekiller77 | well that for you get in | 23:37 |
| Gamekiller77 | but you need external network | 23:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | so it can route | 23:38 |
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| thansen | Gamekiller77: I'm just testing this out and ran packstack on a centos 6.5 w/ rdo | 23:40 |
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| thansen | it created 2 networks, 'public' and 'private' | 23:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok | 23:40 |
| thansen | I see that the controller has br-ex and br-int | 23:41 |
| thansen | the br-ex has address 172.24.4.225 | 23:41 |
| thansen | br-int has nothing | 23:41 |
| thansen | I'm not clear why I would need 2 networks anyway if openstack is dishing out 2 internal ips for route and dns (both of which are ping'able from the vms themselves) | 23:43 |
| thansen | I have no idea where these ips are actually bound to make 10.0.0.1 for example actually route for the vms | 23:43 |
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