Wednesday, 2013-12-04

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pmcgI don't understand the use of gre by ovs within neutron networking. Seems like there is a tunnel mesh made between hosts and the network node, is there any additional encasulation for tenant networks within the gre tunnels?00:17
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sparcheyas.  is anyone going to the Neutron talk at E Vault tonight in San Francisco?00:41
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sparcIt looked cool.  I was going to stop by see who else was going.00:41
AbhishekI'm going00:41
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sparci registered for redhat's open stack class later this month00:42
sparchoepfully neutron won't be too far over my head00:42
sparci'm trying to get a sense of how all this works together, so i can look for a datacenter job soon00:43
sparci'm excited :)00:43
sparcusually i'm just an admin and switch technician00:43
Abhishekoh cool00:43
Abhishekgood luck :)00:43
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sparcdo you all use open stack to build an infrastruc. service?00:44
sparcthere's a few companies floating around the job-a-sphere, with openstack already going00:45
balarposting the same question from openstak-dev:00:45
balarIs there an IP address manipulation module used by Openstack? python 3 has it in its core library, but I do not see one for python 2.7. I would like to compute netmask address given the netmask as an integer.00:45
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Yum01:17
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Sam-I-Amsparc: plenty of openstack-ish jobs out there04:36
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mrproperSam-I-Am: You alive?04:52
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: mooooo04:55
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I went to my Linux User Group tonight and did an impromptu OpenStack preso04:55
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mrproperIt went well. I sold 10 of them04:56
Sam-I-Am10 what? souls?04:57
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Sam-I-Amcows are trendy05:00
mrproperSam-I-Am: Are they?05:00
Sam-I-Amyeah. remember gateway and their cow-colored boxes?05:00
mrproperYes I do05:01
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Sam-I-Amdid you neutron?05:02
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mrproperNot at all tonight05:03
Sam-I-Amme neither05:04
Sam-I-Ambut tomorrow i think its game on again with my EL install05:04
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Sam-I-Amassuming i get some breaks from other work stuff05:04
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mrproperBusy day?05:05
Sam-I-Amthey usually wind up that way05:05
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Sam-I-Amdurr, gotta make a phone call05:06
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Sam-I-Am_mrproper: wheee freenode POOF05:20
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mrproperSam-I-Am_: <-- see this?05:26
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Sam-I-Am_mrproper: back05:32
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mrproperSam-I-Am: I think I was setting up stuff on the wrong server so I need to revert to snapshot I think05:36
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RaviTezumrproper / Sam-I-Am : Hi05:42
mrproperSam-I-Am: When I was setting up Neutron last night...I think I put the wrong stuff on the wrong node05:42
RaviTezuHow you guys doin?05:42
Sam-I-Ammrproper: well, its not that bad to change05:42
Sam-I-AmRaviTezu: not too bad05:42
mrproperIt is not05:43
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RaviTezuHow you folks are doing DNS stuff for openstack? I 'm able to get private ip when launching instances and able to assign floating ip if needed.05:43
RaviTezuBut, How are you updating the dns?05:44
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Sam-I-Amlike... updating the outside dns for resolving instance floating ips?05:44
RaviTezuSam-I-Am: exactly. rather than doing it manually..05:45
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Sam-I-Amthats a good question.05:45
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Sam-I-Ami suspect there's some hooks for talking to something like isc dhcp server05:46
Sam-I-Amperhaps via their api05:46
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Sam-I-Ami suspect someone has made some sort of interface05:47
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RaviTezuSam-I-Am: I use infoblox for DNS and dhcp.. and for now, all the instances use dnsmasq for getting ips.. Is that possible to redirect the requests to my infoblox?06:00
RaviTezuand is there any documentation available to implement ISC dhcp? Please share it if you have any06:00
Sam-I-Amwell, i dont know of anything specific06:01
Sam-I-Ambut i suspect the internet does06:01
RaviTezuok thanks06:01
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shadyabhiIn quantum terms, what do we actually mean by "external network" ? There are 2 options, net-list and net-external-list. What's the difference?06:19
shadyabhiWhy is onec alled external?06:20
shadyabhione called*06:20
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Sam-I-Amexternal networks are connected to the outside world... usually06:20
Sam-I-Amusually from where floating ips are allocated06:20
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shadyabhiSam-I-Am: Ohk. THanks. So, after using "quantum router-interface-add", how do I check if the actual interface got added?06:24
shadyabhiThere is nothing like router-interface-list in help06:24
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Sam-I-Ammaybe router-port-list ?06:27
shadyabhiSam-I-Am: Oh, I guess, I'll have to list the ports to get that info. router-port-list . Am I right?06:27
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shadyabhiSam-I-Am: Right, you replied just milliseconds before me. Thanks06:27
Sam-I-Amaight, i'm off to bed06:27
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cihhanHi all! I have a question. I have installed and configured OpenStack Havana on Ubuntu 12.04 as mentioned on the openstack page. However, when I create VMs I have two problems. (1) ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa IP does not work -- it still asks for the passwd. (2) The VMs do not get correct IPs. Their IPs are just in order meaning that they are causing conflict with the existing computers. What can be missing?06:37
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towenAnyone here that can help me out with a neutron question?07:23
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towenAnyone awake?07:28
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Ilei don't have means to check this right now, but am i correct when i think that admin role is required for quota updates on CLI?07:33
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t0x1cHi guys07:57
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t0x1canybody familiar with Pistons modifications to Openstack?07:58
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ravikupfollowing test case - nova.tests.virt.libvirt.test_libvirt.LibvirtNonblockingTestCase.test_tpool_execute_calls_libvirt line  line 7405is failing when i get the latest of openstack and run the tests08:24
ravikupis anyone facing the same problem08:24
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sibIn the #rdo quickstart guide, it asks for a "fully qualified domain name" for the host. I googled for fqdn but dont know what to use.09:43
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pbeskowhostname --fqdn will let you know what the fqdn of your node is, it consists of the local node name, set in /etc/hostname and domain name of your dns settings, that you get either via dhcp or set statically, i.e., /etc/resolv.conf09:52
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sibpbeskow: But it asks me to name the "host" with fqdn, so I dont have a system to run "hostname --fqdn" yet with09:59
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Mani_hi all10:02
Mani_i install dev stack10:02
Mani_but unable to create VMS in it10:02
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pbeskowsib: they are referring to the host you will be installing openstack-packstack, i.e., your machine running RHEL10:04
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sibpsharma: Yes I know. I have a kvm vm with CentOS trying to install at the moment(this is were I will install openstack).10:05
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sibpsharma: But what hostname do I give it?10:05
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Mani_Failed to launch instance "Mani": Please try again later [Error: No valid host was found. ].10:07
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pbeskowsib: whatever hostname you prefer, i.e., openstack10:09
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pbeskowMani_: what does the output from "nova service-list" give you, do you have a nova-compute service in the state "up"10:10
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Mani_ERROR: Policy doesn't allow compute_extension:services to be performed. (HTTP 403) (Request-ID: req-d7e27ed0-68df-41a2-b264-ba01717d7275)10:11
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sibpbeskow: I am unclear than why it asks for fqdn if I can use any hostname i choose10:12
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pbeskowsib: read my first reponse, the fqdn is a combination of your local hostname and the domain name associated with your DNS zone10:13
pbeskowthe fqdn is used to identify a machine uniquely, i.e., there can be multiple "myhost", but only one ""10:13
pbeskowwhere the latter is the FQDN10:14
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pbeskowMani_: have you correctly sourced the admin credentials? you can also check with keystone that the user you are trying to boot an instance with has admin rights10:16
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sibpbeskow: Ok, so in my case, because my domain is my pc, a simple myhost will suffice?10:17
sibpbeskow: Sorry for asking something so unimportant, but i am trying to get a working openstack installation..and have tried xenserver, ubuntu mass/juju, ubuntu13.10 server ediont.. and now trying centos10:18
pbeskowsib: yes, or whatever meaningful name you want to give it10:18
pbeskowsib: it can be quite frustrating, my sympathies10:18
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BobBallsib: what was the problem with using xenserver?10:19
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sibafter installing devstack, I wasn't able to get an instance running10:20
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siband after viewing a few logs, there were multiple logs with erros10:20
BobBallsib: do you still have that environment available?  I'm a XenServer 'expert' so can probably help you get that working or figure out what was wrong10:20
sibunfortunately not :( I tried a few days and gave up10:20
sibIf I don't get this up and running I might try xenserver again and give you a hit10:21
BobBallbah - well if you want to try XenServer again and have problems, let me know and I'll do what I can to help :)10:21
pbeskowsib: personally I would recommend building your openstack instance using a guide such as:
sibI did use that guide, the last 3 days and I am having problems10:21
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sibI have posted on irc/ask and haven't found a solution10:21
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sibI am trying centos + rdo gude because I was told it will be easier to set up10:22
pbeskowthe problem with dns can be solved by setting the dns_servers setting on your subnet to whatever is setup locally on your network10:25
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pbeskowalso, make sure that you have enabled promiscuous mode on the interfaces otherwise it will drop packets10:29
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sibpbeskow: Which problem to dns are you refering to?10:30
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pbeskowif you can ping, but not resolve an address it could be because your dns settings are wrong on the controller10:34
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sibI have the controller in a vm on my pc. And have added 2 nics(one bridged to my pc, one with nat so vm's can talk to each other).10:37
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sibauto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address netmask gateway dns-nameserver #nameserver
sib auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address netmask gateway
sibthe eth0 is my pc's network(external) so i give it a dns, the eth1 is the internal between vm's10:40
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sibI know very little about networking,but thought this was correct10:41
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sibThese configurations worked sometimes. After installing nova-network they stopped working though10:41
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sibthe dns part stopped working that is10:43
pbeskowHow did you setup the networks using nova? Did you use the same 192.x.x.x format?10:43
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siball parts were set up based on the tutorial, almost all parts use the internal (192.168.200)10:44
pbeskowI am no expert on the networking side either, but if both were using the 192.168.x.x/24 cidr you could get collisions10:44
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sibone is using .200.x and the other .0.x10:45
pbeskowif both use 192.168, the traffic that should be routed internally, might be routed externally instead, depending on the order of your "ip route" output10:45
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sibsince .0.x is bridged to my pc which is also .0.x10:45
pbeskowok, I guess that should work then10:45
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pbeskowyou could have tried using 172.16.x.x or 10.0.x.x, which are also private ranges10:46
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sibI haven't, but what is the difference?10:46
sibMy configuration is a little wierd because it runs from a vm10:47
pbeskowjust to ensure that there will be no collisions10:47
pbeskowI also know that ip4 forwarding should be enabled and that promiscuous mode should be enabled (when running openstack in a virtualized environment)10:47
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pbeskowpresumably the former is setup by devstack10:48
sibi havent run devstack since i followed the tutorial10:48
sibill check to use how to enable thoose two10:48
pbeskowip4 forwarding is mentioned in the guide10:48
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sibI followed everything up untill launching an instance(where it failed) and didnt see anything about forwarding..10:51
pbeskowsorry, that was part of the neutron network guide10:52
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sibook, I didnt install neutron because I want the simpliest approafh10:52
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pbeskowyou have verified that rabbitmq is running? did you set the correct rabbit_host, rabbit_guest, etc, correctly in the various configs?10:55
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sibi think so. i accessed the rabbitmq management console and can see both controller and compute10:56
sibin the queues10:56
sibso i think they can talk to rabbitmq10:56
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pbeskowand when you setup rabbitmq you didnt change the default guest:guest credentials?10:57
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sibi changed the password10:58
sibbut i have added it to the conf files in both10:58
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pbeskowand you can resolve the hostname for the controller from the compute node?11:00
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sibi cant ping my@controller if that is what you are asking11:04
pbeskowso pinging the controller from the compute node fails?11:05
sibit seems i cant even ping my@ which is teh controller internal ip11:06
sib(i could a day ago)11:06
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sibcorrection, i can ping, not my@192...11:06
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sibcorrection2: i can ping the controller from the compute1 node, i was mistakenly adding the host11:07
sibping host@controller fails, ping controller work11:08
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sibso my hosts files should be correct11:09
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pbeskowwhat do you mean by host@controller ?11:12
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sibhost=user, my bad11:14
sibi ran this on the controller, cat /etc/resolv.conf, and got 0 results... on teh compute1 node i get 1 result(and ping google works there)11:15
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sibit is wierd because i have nova-network installed on both vm's11:21
sibbut!eth1 isn't static on my compute vm because the tutorial told me not ot11:21
sibbut!eth1 isn't static on my compute vm because the tutorial told me not too11:21
sibbut!eth0 isn't static on my compute vm because the tutorial told me not too11:23
pbeskowI would spend some time ensuring that the network connectivity between your nodes works correctly, I have not setup nova-network so I am not familiar with its peculiarities11:23
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siboook, ill give a better look11:23
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dacharyI would like to get rid of spurious tun in OVS ( leftover from a misconfiguration ).11:39
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dacharytype: gre options: {in_key=flow, local_ip="", out_key=flow, remote_ip=""}11:40
dacharyfor instance11:40
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dacharyI could just remove them from the database11:42
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dacharybut I fear this is referenced somewhere else and will trigger problems11:44
dacharyit may be related to
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Alienyyg hi guys, I wanna to do autoscaling with openstack heat, my openstack is deployed and I use the neutron service, but when I use resource "AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::LoadBalancer",I got error like "Resource Create Failed: Error: Resource Create Failed: Badrequest: Multiple Possible Networks Found, Use A Network Id To Be More Specific. (Http 400) ", but the  "AWS::ElasticLoadBalancing::LoadBalancer" has no network parameters. So how can i handle this11:52
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pbeskowAlienyyg: you will have to modify the template, the AWS::EC2::Instance supports a SubnetID argument, which you can set to a subnet id from neutron. The subnet id from neutron can be passed as an argument by expanding "Parameters" section11:55
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pbeskowAlienyyg: you would then use the "Instances: [ ...]" and reference the AWS::EC2::Instance's you create, which are using the correct subnet id12:04
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Alienyyg<pbeskow>I follow the example in
Alienyygand it does not use Instances: [...]12:07
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pbeskowas far as I understand that template it only sets up the listener and does not configure any instances12:09
tennebrus_pbeskow: Hi dude! I see you work with heat, may I ask you if have you created a template for heat+ceilometer for autoscaling that actually works? I've been trying using ceilometer and heat only, and also mixing with AWS templates but I don't know why the scaling can't work. It seems the alarm just doesn't trigger.12:09
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pbeskowAlienyyg: see this bug for details on how to achieve what you want
pbeskowtennebrus_: I only have a little experience from my own experimentation12:14
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Alienyyg<pbeskow> Ok ,thank you ,I have see this solution,best regards12:17
tennebrus_pbeskow: I've been trying to put a simple autoscaling to work, really simple, using as resources: AWS::AutoScaling::AutoScalingGroup, AWS::AutoScaling::ScalingPolicy, AWS::AutoScaling::LaunchConfiguration and OS::Ceilometer::Alarm, also tried the AWS alarm12:17
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tennebrus_the instance it launches has stress running, so the CPU would go over the threshold and scale it +1, but it never happens12:18
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tennebrus_the alarm' state doesn't change from insufficient_data, but even if I manually change with alarm-update to ok and keep all other properties it has, it never triggers also12:22
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tennebrus_have any ideas of what could be going on? or have a simple template you used yourself that works so I could try here?12:23
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pbeskowsorry for the late reply tennebrus_, do you have a reference to the template you are trying to use?13:43
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tennebrus_pbeskow: sure, I can show you on pvt or open my apache for you to see13:44
pbeskowtennebrus_: go for it13:44
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tennebrus_k, I'll just open up apache for outside access a while :)13:46
pbeskowsounds good13:46
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tennebrus_pbeskow: ty for the waiting dude,
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tennebrus_I've put two templates there, the scaling two is simpler, but the "scaling" also has an action for insufficient_data state just to check wether or not it was going to trigger13:52
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pbeskowYou are running havana, right?13:52
pbeskoware you able to list the alarms with ceilometer alarm-list13:53
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tennebrus_yes, the one create with the "scaling" file, the other one is OS::HEAT::CWLiteAlarm, it doesn't show up13:53
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tennebrus_it stucks with "insufficient_data", dunno why also13:54
pbeskowand ceilometer meter-list gives you some reasonable output?13:54
tennebrus_do you know the format of the action of the alarms? i mean, the webhook for activating the policies13:56
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pbeskowThere is a discussion on it here:
pbeskowI am looking at my own setup now, I have ceilometer running and am getting some statistics13:56
tennebrus_checking this link now13:57
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pbeskowI would imagine that the 'meter_name' in the template should match a corresponding entry found in 'ceilometer meter-list'13:59
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pbeskowand that 'ceilometer statistics -m 'meter-name' is similar to what ceilometer uses to trigger an alarm14:00
tennebrus_yes, it does, we've also tried using different meters, like for memory14:01
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pbeskowdo you have a cpu_util meter?14:01
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tennebrus_yes, it outputs this for cpu_util14:02
tennebrus_| Period | Period Start        | Period End          | Count | Min             | Max           | Sum           | Avg            | Duration  | Duration Start      | Duration End        |14:02
tennebrus_| 0      | 2013-11-14T18:42:13 | 2013-11-14T18:42:13 | 27736 | 0.0116666666667 | 99.9666110184 | 21672.5503474 | 0.781387018583 | 1620514.0 | 2013-11-14T18:42:13 | 2013-12-03T12:50:47 |14:02
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tennebrus_but we are also using hearbeat14:03
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tennebrus_in other scaling attempt14:03
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pbeskowin the article I pasted earlier, they use the following template:
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pbeskowin what you have called sGroup, they reference an ElsasticLoadBalancer14:06
tennebrus_i see14:07
pbeskowWhich according to the documentation is the list of loadbalancers associated with the auto scaling group14:07
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pbeskowFor amazon it is not required, however14:08
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tennebrus_yes, that's why we were not using it, we were just trying to launch machines up as a first try to use scaling14:08
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tennebrus_could you show me the format of any of your "alarm_actions" with ceilomter alarm-show? just wondering if the format is wrong setup here14:10
pbeskowhave you enabled all the required services? what is the output from 'pgrep -l ceilometer'14:10
tennebrus_I don't know how this webhook is generated14:11
pbeskowtennebrus_: unfortunately I have not set any alarms up14:11
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tennebrus_oh, ok, I'll check that command out now14:11
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tennebrus_28560 ceilometer-agen14:11
tennebrus_28571 ceilometer-api14:11
tennebrus_28582 ceilometer-coll14:11
tennebrus_28621 ceilometer-alar14:11
tennebrus_28628 ceilometer-alar14:11
tennebrus_thats the outpout btw14:12
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pbeskowthat looks correct, I would assume the last two are: ceilometer-alarm-evaluator and ceilometer-alarm-notifier14:12
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pbeskowdo you see any errors in the ceilometer logs?14:13
tennebrus_but  these two you mentioned are not starting up with ceilometer, we have to manually start it14:13
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pbeskowyeah, that is what I noticed also14:13
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tennebrus_we have this warning showing up couple times: WARNING ceilometer.transformer.conversions [-] dropping sample with no predecessor: <ceilometer.sample.Sample object at 0x1ff2390>14:14
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pbeskowyou could try to enable verbose output with debug information for ceilometer, this will spam your logs, but perhaps it will log the trigger events14:15
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pbeskowthen we could at least determine if the alarms are triggered, and just not handled, or not triggered at all14:16
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tennebrus_yeah, ty for the tip, I'll turn it up .. working is our greater concern, logs can spam for a while :)14:17
pbeskowyou should see something like this: "initiating evaluation cycle on ... alarms"14:17
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t0x1chi guys, does anybody know if Piston somehow adressed some of the hypervisor support issues like ESXi with their modifications to openstack?
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tennebrus_pbeskow: 29342 INFO ceilometer.alarm.service [-] initiating evaluation cycle on 1 alarms14:18
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tennebrus_this alarm is the one of template OS::Ceilometer::Alarm, we also have the OS::Heat::CWLiteAlarm, but it doesn't show on alarm-list nor was counted in this info14:19
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pbeskowAha, I think I see what the problem is, you need to define a tag in your AutoScalingGroup14:20
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pbeskowapparently these tags are what ceilometer use to match14:20
pbeskowref. this discussion:
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tennebrus_hmm, looking for that now, haven't really seen it before14:22
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pbeskowif you add the following lines to sGroup:14:23
pbeskow      Tags:14:23
pbeskow      - {Key: metering.server_group, Value: WebServerGroup}14:23
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pbeskowand change the Value: "..." to match your matching_metadata it should work, I guess14:23
pbeskowsee here:
pbeskowfor the full example14:23
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tennebrus_reading and trying now14:25
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pbeskowdid it do the trick?14:32
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tennebrus_not yet, I've launched two stacks, with different meters now to check it out14:35
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tennebrus_pbeskow: it looked like was going to work.. but the alarms, as before, stay as "insufficient_data"14:39
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tennebrus_i used alarm-set-state and made it change to "ok" and got this error 1 minute after: ERROR ceilometer.alarm.service [req-d7c9ca93-0403-41a5-bfce-9c6a4344a2c1 None None] Action  for alarm 3e099431-df42-42ad-9c07-19c51fdf996f is unknown, cannot notify14:39
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tennebrus_ and it has an action on "actions"14:39
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tennebrus_aaand it went back to insufficient_data14:39
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pbeskowWhat database backend are you using for ceilometer?14:42
pbeskowand more pertinently, what storage driver?14:43
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pbeskowaccording to this discussion:, you need to use the mongodb storage driver in order for autoscaling group to work14:43
tennebrus_it's mongodb indeed14:44
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rafael_pbeskow: using mongo, sometimes i got an error "not okForStorage"14:46
pbeskowand you are using the mongodb storage driver also? not sqlalchemy14:46
tennebrus_pbeskow: rafael_ works with me here14:46
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pbeskowi.e., should be something like: backend=sqlalchemy, in your ceilometer.conf14:47
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tennebrus_pbeskow: thanks a lot for all your help dude, srously.. but we need to get an 1 hour off now to have lunch14:48
tennebrus_and it is backend=mongodb14:48
pbeskowno worries, I am about to leave for the day also =)14:49
pbeskownice opportunity to learn more about openstack14:49
tennebrus_I rly appreciate the help, have a nice day then!14:49
pbeskowyou to!14:49
tennebrus_anything you need just ask, I'll be here tomorrow to say if it worked14:50
tennebrus_ty again!14:50
pbeskowcool, hope you figure it out, would like to know what the quirk was14:50
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towen27Are there any neutron gurus here?15:21
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towen27Anyone has experience with setting up multiple l3 agents?15:27
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sibHello, I just installed devstack on a ubuntu(13.10) vm. Launched an instance(running), but cannot access vm console or ssh into it from vm(controller) or desktop. I have enabled ssh/imcp, alos have tried with ssh keypair.. no liuck15:41
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sibI know the instance is running because it says so + the log shows it started correctly and stopped at login.15:43
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CaptainTacoSaucesib: Let's focus on the vnc console. What errors are you getting?15:47
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sibFirefox can't establish a connection to the server at
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CaptainTacoSauceOkay, can you telnet to
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CaptainTacoSauceYou can VNC directly to the console if you want to log in to the VM, but that still leaves you two other problems to fix. :D15:48
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CaptainTacoSauceI've never touched devstack so most of my known good configurations are probably going to be wrong for you.15:49
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sibim trying devstack because my configuration yesterday failed and i couldn't find a solution15:50
CaptainTacoSauceOh wait I remember now.15:50
CaptainTacoSauceYou had my RPC timeout error.15:50
sibbut i had an other error15:50
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sibmy controller cant access my dns for some reason15:51
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sib(i have it in the interface file, but it doesnt read it)15:51
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CaptainTacoSaucehmmm, so was that your RPC problem? it couldn't look up the names you had in the config files?15:52
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sibI have no clue.. I didn't find a way to fix that problme15:53
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CaptainTacoSauceokay, it would sure make sense if they were related15:53
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sibYou think so?15:53
sibMaybe its worth trying to fix then..15:53
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CaptainTacoSauceAssuming you were relying on DNS to resolve those names. If you had them in the hosts file, then maybe not.15:54
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sibI have them in the hosts file, but nova-network is a bit wierd15:54
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CaptainTacoSauceokay so send me your /etc/network/interfaces?15:56
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sibGive me a moment to close the devstack vm's and open the other15:57
CaptainTacoSauceah okay :D15:57
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sibMy controller is inside a kvm vm, with 2 virtual networks(1 bridge for external eth0, 1 nat for internal eth1)16:00
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sibauto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address netmask gateway dns-nameserver
sib auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address netmask gateway
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sibI could access dns yesterday, since I used apt-get to install everything the tutorial mentioned16:04
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sibActually.. dns works now.. but didnt previously16:05
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sib(and I did restart previously... it works randomly)16:06
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sibAlso, when vm starts(when ubuntu is loading) it stops at network configuration..because it can't find dns16:07
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CaptainTacoSauceah I was looking for pastebin but okay, cool16:11
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CaptainTacoSauceI think it has to be plural16:11
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sibI changed it, but since it already worked it works again16:14
CaptainTacoSauceah, right okay16:14
CaptainTacoSaucehopefully it works on boot now? /shrug16:14
CaptainTacoSauceso we're back to just the RPC problem then?16:14
sibill reboot just to make sure16:14
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sibnope, problem still exists16:15
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sibIs it manditory for openstack controller to have 2 interfaces? do external nodes(such as compute) need internal interfaces, or can they work with external16:16
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sibi was thinking of killing my 2nd interface, the nat one16:17
sibAlso, is nat the correct way?16:17
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CaptainTacoSaucehmm, I'm a bit confused -- in my environment, the only node with two NICs is neutron, you don't have neutron so I guess your nova-compute/nova-network node needs two16:19
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CaptainTacoSauceand since we're talking about nova-network, I can't really answer about NAT, on my neutron config, its all openvswitch bridges16:19
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jfarschmanIs there a way to change the fixed IP after an instance is started?16:20
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CaptainTacoSaucejfarschman, I don't see a way, no. Now of course you can add/remove floating IPs all day long with the machine running.16:24
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jfarschmanyea… we have a test environment were we don't use floating.16:24
jfarschmanand some of the IPs are not able to ping out their gateway.  Strangeness.16:25
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CaptainTacoSauceHere, from the docs: When you launch an instance, it is automatically assigned a private IP address that stays the same until you explicitly terminate the instance. Rebooting an instance has no effect on the private IP address.16:27
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jfarschmanCaptainTacoSauce: right I also know you can  select an IP/network  with nova boot16:27
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jfarschmanI'll just trouble shoot the root cause.16:28
netfuif you are using neutron you can create a new port with the desired fixed ip address and add that to the instance, then remove the old interface.16:29
jfarschmangood point16:29
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Sam-I-Ammorning guys16:34
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Madkisscan I make the Dashboard show the hypervisor host that is running a specific VM? like I can do in "nova show" for a partiuclar VM?16:39
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CaptainTacoSaucesup Sam-I-Am :D16:40
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: yo16:41
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Sam-I-Amlong time no see16:41
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CaptainTacoSauceyeah I'm back, for now :D16:41
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CaptainTacoSauceyou should help me with sib 's problem :D16:42
CaptainTacoSaucehe's got our favorite RPC timeout error16:42
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Sam-I-Amoh yeaaaahh that one16:43
sibyes please :P16:44
Sam-I-Amin devstack though?16:44
dhblazAnyone have a word around for this problem?  (using git fuel-main master)16:44
dhblaznotroot@ubuntu:~/fuel40-build/fuel-main$ make iso16:44
dhblazcp /home/notroot/fuel40-build/fuel-main/build/mirror/gems/gems-bundle/vendor/cache/*.gem /home/notroot/fuel40-build/fuel-main/local_mirror/gems/gems16:44
dhblaz(cd /home/notroot/fuel40-build/fuel-main/local_mirror/gems && gem generate_index gems)16:44
dhblazERROR:  While executing gem ... (RuntimeError)16:44
dhblaz    Gem::Indexer requires that the XML Builder library be installed:16:44
dhblazgem install builder16:44
dhblazmake: *** [/home/notroot/fuel40-build/fuel-main/build/mirror/gems/build.done] Error 116:44
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Sam-I-Aminstall the xml builder library?16:44
CaptainTacoSaucehe put devstack up on the side (sound familiar?) but this problem is with a full install, he's using nova-network instead of neutron though16:44
sibSam-I-Am: Ubutnu 13.10 installed on vm, wiki/openstack tutorial installation, and second vm with 13.10 for compute node16:45
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Sam-I-Amoh, i havent used nova-network16:45
CaptainTacoSaucefor us, this problem was stuff in the nova.conf, right? all those neutron entries?16:45
Sam-I-Amyeah on the compute nodes16:45
Sam-I-Amplus some other issues16:45
Sam-I-Amwhat was the exact rpc error?  the details might help a bit.16:46
sibI can put neutron.. but i will probably mak ethings worse16:46
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CaptainTacoSaucethis is you, right sib?
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Sam-I-Amdoes the rpc timeout specifically mention what action failed?16:48
CaptainTacoSauceyou know I just noticed, nova-network is running on your control node, but shouldn't it be on the compute node?16:49
sibits on both16:49
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* Sam-I-Am cant believe he understands neutron better than nova-net16:49
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CaptainTacoSauceyeah, I'll be more helpful on neutron too :-\16:49
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sibI want to get 1 working openstack.. iv been batteling for weeks.. I can try neutron but im afraid things will get worse..16:51
Sam-I-Amwell, neutron is kind of the way things are going16:51
CaptainTacoSauceit did take both of us weeks as well, I'd love to say oh just follow this guide and you'll have a working environment in a day, but I've never seen that guide, it does take some time16:52
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sib:P fair enough16:52
Sam-I-Amwell, with the exception of one last bug, all of mine against the ubuntu guide are fixed16:52
sibi was hoping devstack would work.. but it failed at showing the vm consoles16:52
Sam-I-Ami still need to run through the entire thing again16:52
Sam-I-Amdevstack should work... at least on a single machine16:52
Sam-I-Ami havent tried it with multiple hosts16:53
sib1 host16:53
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sibubuntu 13.10 + devstack inside vm16:53
sibeverything worked except vm's console(or ssh)16:53
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Sam-I-Amdid you get an 'rc' file from the gui to use for your tenant in the cli?16:53
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Sam-I-Amwe can see whats going on with those vnc consoles16:54
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sibi got a ssh-keypair to access the vm from ssh, but it didnt work16:54
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netfusid I find it odd that you have two different zones reporting in the service list16:55
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sibnetfu: I do too, but have no idea why this happened16:55
Sam-I-Amyeah i think they should all be 'nova'16:56
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CaptainTacoSaucemine has that too though, I think it even shows that way in the docs16:56
Sam-I-Amyou clearly need Moar Magic16:57
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Sam-I-Amthere's a service that provides rainbows and unicorns somewhere16:57
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netfusry- I see that as well on mine17:00
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: oh yah, whaddya know17:00
Sam-I-Amthats what i get for openstacking before caffeine17:00
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: i'm trying to see how well the redhat docs work now17:02
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CaptainTacoSauceso do you run proper RHEL for that? do you have license and activate every component host?17:02
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sibI was given a good tutorial for centos+ openstack17:03
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sibbut wanted to check if this could be fixed first.. since I installed every part myself17:03
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: it should work fine on cent/sci17:03
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Madkissif I assign swap space to a VM (or to a machine flavor, rather), where is that swap? inside the VM's image? somewhere via some magic in the host'S swap?17:04
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Madkissi.e. if I boot the VM off a volume, will the swap of that VM be on the volume aswell?17:04
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CaptainTacoSauceI'm sure its fixable sib, nova-network or neutron, we're just neutron guys and nova-network adds a ton of variables.17:04
CaptainTacoSauceActually I'd like to know the answer to that swap question too, I have no idea. :D17:05
sibOk, so should I delete/destroy nova network, and install neutron?17:05
Sam-I-Amsib: so back to the vnc thing...17:05
Madkissof course :)17:05
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sibSam-I-Am: i think its best I spend the time fixing the installation i did myself, since devstack tends to fail17:06
sibnot that mine is working, but i know where everything is and how they work kinda17:06
netfusib do you have web management  console turned on for rabbitmq?17:06
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sibyes, we checked that yesterday17:06
Sam-I-Amwell, i found that RDO provides a pretty good working proof-of-concept17:06
sibboth controller / compute1 node appear in the queue17:06
Sam-I-Amthat is actually a 'real' install17:06
sibu installed inside a vm?17:07
Sam-I-Amnetfu: the thing about rabbit is you can't really see all of the messages going by without writing some fun code17:07
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Sam-I-Amyeah all my stuff is VMs right now17:07
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Sam-I-Amsib: do VMs launch in your 'real' install at all?17:08
sibif u dont mind, what network do u use for internal vm communication17:08
Sam-I-Amon my all-in-ones, its all on the same network17:08
sib(virtual network that u give to the vm's, bridge , nat or other)17:08
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sibSam-I-Am: I cant launch a instance because of the timeout error we are looking for17:09
sibit comes up at that point17:09
siblaunches and fails17:09
Sam-I-Amdoes your hardware support vm-inside-vms?17:09
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Sam-I-Amwell, 2nd gen hw virt includes nested hw accellerated VMs17:10
CaptainTacoSaucethe hardware doesn't care, its whether the hypervisor can virtualize the VTX stack17:10
Sam-I-Amwhich kvm requires otherwise it wont boot17:10
sibmy other install with devstack runs the instance, so i guess yes17:10
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Sam-I-Ami'm just wondering because all my crap broke until i changed the neutron hypervisor from kvm to raw qemu17:10
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Sam-I-Amits possible devstack tests for compatibility like RDO does17:11
sibWhat is the neutro hypervison?17:11
sibWhat is the neutro hypervisor?17:11
Sam-I-Amerrr, nova17:11
Sam-I-Am<- still not well caffeinated17:11
sibI don't think that is the problem though17:11
Sam-I-Amjust something to check17:12
CaptainTacoSauceGah I can't find it anywhere. What does RDO stand for? My OCD is going off. I have to know.17:12
netfuRedhat distribution of openstack17:12
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Sam-I-Amit stands for RDO :)17:12
CaptainTacoSauceahhhh thank you17:13
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CaptainTacoSauceMan I hope they let me make this my full time job. Still waiting for my Tier 3 cross training so I'm just here to stay sharp.17:15
netfuon sib's issue- RPC timeout can be a missed mq endpoint.  I don't see the api.log excerpt but I did not see "ERR" in the nova-network excerpt (so did the RPC call make it there)17:15
Sam-I-Ami thought you went another direction17:15
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Sam-I-Amnetfu: yeah... as in something put a message in, but nothing took it out17:15
CaptainTacoSaucenetfu: When we had that error, it was very deceiving, the problem actually had nothing to do with rabbitmq, despite that being the obvious first troubleshooting step.17:16
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce and I had nova asking for a nova-net network because it didn't know about neutron, so those messages just went unheard17:16
CaptainTacoSauceSam-I-Am, We bought Tier 3, but I'm isolated from that project for another month or two so I'm just in a holding pattern.17:16
sibnetfu: which logs would you like for me too add17:17
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sibshould controller be able to ping compute node?17:20
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netfuthe nova/api.log ...17:20
Sam-I-Amand hostnames need to resolve17:20
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CaptainTacoSaucehostnames need to resolve* if specified in the conf files17:21
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CaptainTacoSauceyeah, I can ping all my nodes from each other, but I only use IP addreses17:21
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sibIm getting packet filtering17:22
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CaptainTacoSauceoh you've got iptables in the way?17:22
sibI have no idea what is in the way :P17:22
sibLet me ask something simple17:23
Sam-I-Amhmm usually ubuntu doesnt have a firewall enabled17:23
sibI have 2 vm's, controller + compute17:23
sibI have given them 2 vic's, (bridge, nat)17:23
Sam-I-Amah, i thought you had one17:23
Sam-I-Amone vm, that is...17:23
Sam-I-Amthe install guide likes 3 VMs... controller, net, compute... with a number of interfaces17:24
sibI can spawn vm's17:24
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sibbut the more vms the more problems :P17:24
Sam-I-Amwell, not necessarily17:24
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sibLets say i have 317:24
Sam-I-Amthe 3 VM thing with neutron seems to work pretty consistently17:24
sibok, and what nics do i create17:24
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Sam-I-Amso there's a diagram in that...17:25
Sam-I-Amkind of actually explains what does what17:25
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CaptainTacoSauceman that is beautiful, where was that a month ago?17:26
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Sam-I-Amit was there17:26
Sam-I-Ami got my first system working by mentally merging that doc with the official docs17:26
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Sam-I-Amand BAM17:26
sibok, so if i create another vm for neuron.17:27
sibwhat networks do they need17:27
sib(bridge, nat etc..)17:27
Sam-I-Ameverything needs a management network17:27
sibbefore that17:27
Sam-I-Amthen the network node needs an instance traffic network + external network17:27
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sibat the kvm level(before controller neuron etc)17:28
sibwhat nics do i give them17:28
CaptainTacoSaucesib: There are many designs you can use. Mine is flat. Every node has one NIC for everything, and then my neutron node has two NICs.17:28
sibA, that sounds easier? :P17:28
CaptainTacoSauceThe proper or production way is probably to isolate admin from internal from external traffic on their own NICs.17:28
devoidI'm getting INFO messages in my glance log that are ClientConnectionError (s)17:28
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sibI need a working prototype for my thesis, so i dont need proper.. just a controller + spawing compute nodes17:29
devoidwhich is to say that all of my requests to glance are failing17:29
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netfuare you running nova-network on compute117:29
devoidI can run keystone commands as the glance user, so I'm not sure where it's error-ing17:29
sputnik13netcan anyone help me troubleshoot why cinder isn't showing in nova service-list?17:29
sputnik13netI don't see any errors in the cinder log17:30
CaptainTacoSauceit doesn't, cinder isn't a nova service17:30
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devoidkeystone service-list is what you're looking for.17:30
sibnetfu: I have nova network in both compute and controller17:30
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sputnik13netfantastic, thank you17:30
netfucinder-manage host list17:30
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sibnetfu: but i plan to remove and add neuron as you all mentioned17:31
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CaptainTacoSaucecinder-manage service list17:31
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CaptainTacoSauceall of them provide some amount of information :D17:32
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CaptainTacoSaucesib: Part of the problem is that every one of our designs are unique from each other. If you want to copy mine, then you have a compute node, and a control node with 1 nic each and a neutron node with 2 nics17:33
netfuok, the RPC call that is timing out is going to the compute1 host.  So if there's an err it will be in compute1 nova-network log.  Otherwise It may be the rpc call never gets there-- i..e compute1 is listening on wrong topic, or can't make it to mq server ,etc.17:33
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CaptainTacoSaucebut if netfu can fix nova-network, that me be faster/easier :D17:33
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netfumake sure nova-network process is running on compute117:34
sibnetfu: the nova network log does have some errors, ill check to see what is runnign now17:35
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jfarschmanTheory Help - Im running nova-network and each compute node is also runs dnsmasq.  But my dnsmasq doesn't share across the compute nodes?17:37
jfarschmanI must be missing some configuration17:38
devoidwhen would glance raise a ClientConnectionError?17:38
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sibsomething must be going wrong, nova-manage service list wont write results.. the same warning printing. i will check the conf files now17:38
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sibnetfu: WARNING nova.openstack.common.db.sqlalchemy.session [req-dacf0894-7bb1-4b3f-9c4b-279acb065158 None None] SQL connection failed. 10 attempts left.17:38
Sam-I-Amwell that can be a problem17:39
szaus18on havana, hypervisors type is always QEMU, did not see KVM, why is that? I do have nova.conf:libvirt_type = kvm17:39
jfarschmandevoid: seems like problem with one of the compute nodes not being able to reach the glance repository17:39
Sam-I-Amszaus18: thats pretty much kvm17:39
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devoidjfarschman: I don't have any compute nodes at the moment17:39
szaus18Sam-I-Am: how can I verify it's not using qemu, not sure why the ambiguity17:40
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devoidjfarschman: I just stood glance up and it's "INFO"-ing that error in the api log whenever I run glance image-list or the like.17:40
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Sam-I-Amszaus18: good question.  libvirt_type=qemu would be straight qemu17:40
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Sam-I-Amwhich is s-l-o-o-o17:41
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szaus18i am worried the installation somehow 'falls back' from kvm to qemu, unsure how to verify that17:41
devoidAlternate question: how does one crank up glance logging. I can't find the docs anywhere.17:41
jfarschmandevoid: but it throws the ClientConnectionError  all the same?  when yo do glance image-list17:41
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jfarschmandid you sync the db?17:41
CaptainTacoSauceI'd like someone more expert to answer but I think KVM was built to enhance QEMU, not replace it, thus they go hand in hand. If you're running KVM, you are running QEMU.17:42
CaptainTacoSauceQEMU can make use of KVM when running a target architecture that is the same as the host architecture. For instance, when running qemu-system-x86 on an x86 compatible processor, you can take advantage of the KVM acceleration - giving you benefit for your host and your guest system.17:42
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Sam-I-Amits kind of a wrapper iirc17:42
netfukvm is more-or-less a cpu driver for qemu.  qemu can emulate a variety of architectures.17:42
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devoidjfarschman: yes to sync db. It throws the error in the /var/log/glance/api.log file17:42
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szaus18kvm is itself a kernel driver, qemu is a machine emulator which interacts with kvm17:44
netfusib: sounds like you're on the right track17:44
jfarschmandevoid: So a problem in the initial setup.  As I recall, you have to setup the auth_host <keystone IP> and maybe setup your mysql DB connectivity information17:44
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Sam-I-Amszaus18: mine say qemu too17:44
szaus18qemu is more like a virtual-IO/virtual-machine while KVM is a virtual-CPU17:44
sibnetfu: I get: TRACE nova OperationalError: (OperationalError) (2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'ucloud' (113)") None None. But I can't figure out why17:44
jfarschmandevoid: so perhaps your privileges are wrong for the glanceuser17:44
szaus18the confusing part is that qemu can run without kvm, but it's unclear to tell that from horizon17:44
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devoidjfarschman: glance has roles "admin" and "_member_" for the "service" tenant.17:45
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devoidand I can query keystone using it's credentials.17:46
CaptainTacoSaucesib, So on that nova box, can you 'telnet ucloud 3306'?17:46
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sibnova compute box?17:46
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CaptainTacoSauceum, wherever that error came from17:47
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sibno, ping and telnet fail17:47
sibthey translate ucloud to correct ip17:47
sibbut host unreachable17:47
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CaptainTacoSauceokay, probably iptables in your way17:47
jfarschmandevoid: I may need to look t your glance configs in past bin.17:47
CaptainTacoSauceor some other network problems17:47
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CaptainTacoSauceso on the ucloud box, sudo iptables -L -n17:47
sibits always a network problem17:47
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ChocoboIs it possible to have a VM with multiple "external" network connections?   Here is my problem...  we have an external network and an internal network.  there are certain services we offer on our internal network that we would like to make available to or VMs (huge NFS storage for example).  Can anyone think of a good way to get the VMs access to the internal network?17:48
Sam-I-Amsays the systems guy :)17:48
CaptainTacoSauceI have a box dedicated to mysql/rabbit and iptables is wide open on it, no filtering at all, but I think you put mysql on your controller box and I think nova-network configures some iptables rules by default.17:48
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CaptainTacoSauce(lots of I think, you can tell my confidence level is sky high on all this)17:49
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CaptainTacoSaucehmm, chain input accept and there's no drop all else, so if I'm reading that right, iptables shouldn't be blocking17:51
siband on compute1:
sibi think the problem is with nat/bridge + etho/eth1+ nova-network configurations17:52
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sibbut I dont know much about these..17:52
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CaptainTacoSauceYeah that sounds like a much more complicated design than I have so I'm kind of at a loss :-\17:54
sibi dont want complicated :P I want the simpliest thing possible17:54
CaptainTacoSauceoh one more thing17:54
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CaptainTacoSauceso when you're pinging your ucloud box, throw -I on there to specify the interface you want to ping out from17:55
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CaptainTacoSauceping -I eth0 ucloud17:55
CaptainTacoSaucesee if any of your interfaces are able to reach it17:55
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jfarschmandevoid: try sed -i 's/#flavor=/flavor = keystone/' /etc/glance/glance-api.conf17:56
sibalready tried before.. both get host unreachable17:56
jfarschmanit's at the the very end17:56
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Madkisssib: what is the problem?17:56
vt102This may be a stupid question, but cinder is just provisioning API, right?  I would still need to mount my cinder-provisioned block storage via iSCSI or some such protocol, correct?17:57
CaptainTacoSaucevt102, The cinder-volume service creates iSCSI targets.17:57
CaptainTacoSauceso while you don't have to manually do it, it must be done17:57
mavericusHi, Is there any possibility to reach the instances on private network(this private network has a router and connected to public network) from hosts which are outside the cloud, rather than assigning a floating IP to every instance?17:57
sibMadkiss: at the very moment the current problem is my compute node(a vm on my pc) cannot communicate with my controller node(another vm on the same pc)17:57
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sibCaptainTacoSauce: btw, if i ping compute1 from controller i get packet filtered17:58
vt102CaptainTacoSauce: Right, but I just had a (non-openstack related) vendor tech trying to tell me it mounts volumes via cinder.  I have to say, I haven't paid that much attention to what was actually happening, but my assumption was that the volumes were USED via iSCSI.17:58
Madkisssib: Neutron?17:58
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vt102He appeared to think the reads/writes were done via cinder, like object storage.17:59
sibI thought it was eiaseir17:59
Madkissthe 90ies just called. they want their software back :)17:59
sibits on the official tutorial :P17:59
szaus18alright, I used 'ps -ef|grep -i kvm' to find out that when a new instance is launched the kvm is active17:59
CaptainTacoSaucevt102, I think that is true, but I'm also not 100% following you.17:59
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szaus18so even though it reports hypervisor as qemu, it's indeed using kvm, good17:59
Sam-I-Amszaus18: coo17:59
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szaus18now I just need create a powerpc version of cirros18:00
vt102CaptainTacoSauce: Once provisioned, cinder gets out of your way.  The VM actually mounts, reads and writes block storage via the plug-in protocol, like iSCSI.18:00
sibMadkiss: CaptainTacoSauce Lets say i install neutron. I will have 3 vm's. The two vm's(controller,compute) will have 1 nic, and the neutron vm will have 2(external internal).18:00
sibwhat type of nics do i create in my kvm on my desktop18:01
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sibteh external that connects to neutron should be bridge i imagine18:01
Madkissyou are doing all this on the same host?18:01
sibwith vm's18:01
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sibits for my thesis, and i have 1 pc18:01
Madkissyeah, just making sure I understand you correctly18:01
CaptainTacoSaucesib: I bridge all my NICs.18:01
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CaptainTacoSaucefrom the host's hypervisor point of view18:01
Madkisssib: is that a linux host?18:01
siblinux everything18:02
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siblinux mint desktop, kvm , ubuntu13.10 nodes18:02
Madkisshow did you install OpenStack?18:02
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MadkissHere's what I would do if I was you18:02
sibopenstack wiki. KVM vm + ubuntu 13.1018:02
Madkissrun three KVM VMs on top of Linux Mint18:02
devoidjfarschman, forward progress! Now I'm getting "Token Validation Failure" in the keystoneclient middleware in glance18:02
Madkissinstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS in them18:02
Madkissinstall Havana18:03
Madkissuse Neutron18:03
sibi have everything execpt neutron18:03
sibwhat nics do i give them?18:03
CaptainTacoSaucevt102, So if the question is: Does iSCSI do the read/write operations or does cinder-volume do them? Yes, I think you're right, it's iSCSI. Cinder-Volume merely sets it all up.18:03
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CaptainTacoSaucesib: What you said is right. 1 bridged nic for controller, 1 bridged nic for compute, 2 bridged nics for neutron18:04
sibCaptainTacoSauce: If you bridge them.. how does teh internal network between nodes work?18:04
Sam-I-Amcinder just handles the meta18:04
Madkisssib: i am assuming you will be running three VMs; alice (the cloud controller), charlie (the network controller), bob (tbe hypervisor). Alice would need one virtual nic, charlie will need three, bob will need two.18:04
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CaptainTacoSaucesib: That all gets set up by the openvswitch bridges -- handled by neutron.18:04
Madkissthat is incorrect.18:05
sibMadkiss: yes 3. I was thinking something more minimal18:05
CaptainTacoSauceThere are bridges within bridges within bridges here, it's really hard to keep it all straight.18:05
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Madkissthe hypervisor host will need two NICs (one for the management network, one as bridge for Open vSwitch), and the network node will three NICs (management network, external bridge, Open vSwitch)18:05
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Madkisssib: this is OpenStack. If you want minimal installations, run KVM+Pacemaker :)18:06
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CaptainTacoSauceNo, my functioning environment has 1 nic on my compute node.18:06
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devoidjfarschman: sorry, gotta run to a meeting now. Thanks for your assistance. I'll be back in the afternoon if you're still around. :)18:06
MadkissCaptainTacoSauce: using VLANs?18:06
sibMadkiss: I want the minimal solution for a working openstack with compute nodes18:06
CaptainTacoSauceit's a flat network design18:07
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Madkisssib: that is what I just described.18:07
Sam-I-Amyou can pretty much do whatever you want with openstack, its just a matter of making everything play nice together on the same networks18:07
MadkissCaptainTacoSauce: oh, okay.18:07
CaptainTacoSauceYeah I'm sure Madkiss and my designs are both valid.18:07
Madkissoh well, I've only helped Deutsche Telekom with their Neutron setup, so what do I know.18:07
CaptainTacoSauceI think mine is a bit more simple, but his may be a bit more standard.18:07
CaptainTacoSauceWe're not building production here.18:08
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sibagreed, ill stick to 1-1-2 nics18:08
Madkisssib: what is the goal of your thesis?18:09
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MadkissI mean. What's the point in using OpenStack if you don't want to run an installation that allows for customers to self-service their networking topology?18:10
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sibwell I thought openstack would be running in a week so i havent figured out exactly what.. I have been trying 3+ weeks(xenserver, ubuntu maas, devstack..). Probably around db management, sending a db from one vmto another, or sharding or something18:10
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CaptainTacoSauceThey still can. My design doesn't really allow you to address internet-accessible IP addresses, but I don't think sib is in the position to be doing that anyway.18:11
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sibCaptainTacoSauce: how will i still softwaer on the nodes?18:12
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sibCaptainTacoSauce: since compute/controller dont talk to the external network18:12
CaptainTacoSauceNeutron will NAT you to the outside world, you just can't connect from the outside world in.18:12
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sibbut I can still ssh into everything from my pc i imagine18:13
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sibOk, no problem them. I dont need external networks at the moment.18:13
Madkisssib: again, what's the purpose of your thesis? :)18:13
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sibNot really sure :P Probably going to send db's between vm's. Or something else similar. Using openstack as management..18:14
sibMost likely if I get openstack working(!) I will find something interesting to do on it18:15
sibI initial idea was, start an openstack, insert vm, create db's.. play around18:15
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tennebrus_hi guys, does anyone recognizes this ceilometer error? > "ERROR ceilometer.alarm.service [req-659f6ec5-666c-4835-bc1f-8de8beddb71b None None] Action  for alarm f8b88d8d-f7a3-417e-860b-08bbd4d6b134 is unknown, cannot notify"18:15
tennebrus_trying to put an autoscaling to work but the actions does'nt seem to work, dunno why, they are referring to the policies on my templates18:16
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tdanziglooking for clues on how to debug an issue with nova services on a controller host. Service state is XXX and Updated_At is None in 'nova-manage service list'. No errors in the Nova logs.18:17
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sibMadkiss: your design is different than CaptainTacoSauce only in the sense that the outside world can communicate with the each node?18:18
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Madkissno. my setup is fundamentally different from a single-flat-network approach.18:18
tdanzigRabbitMQ and all the nova services are all up and running, and I can't see any issues with the nova DB (in mysql)18:18
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MadkissMy approach allows for overlapping IP ranges with multi-tenant support and self-servicing for complete networking typologies of individual tenants.18:19
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jfarschmanAnyone using nova-network in multi-host=true.  It's supposed to work so that dnsmasq uses --addn-hosts file, but does not work for me.18:20
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CaptainTacoSaucehmm, my approach allows for overlapping IP ranges as well :D18:20
CaptainTacoSaucevia gre tunnels18:20
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Madkissthen you're not running a single-flat-network approach.18:21
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CaptainTacoSaucethe infrastructure is built on a flat network18:21
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jfarschmanyep, I'm on
CaptainTacoSauceneutron/openvswitch configures the gre tunnels to allow for ip space per namespace18:22
tennebrus_anyone? =/18:22
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MadkissCaptainTacoSauce: so you're running a hypervisor with one NIC, right? And that is the nic for the management network as well as for the GRE tunnels you set up?18:22
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CaptainTacoSauceif I can replace hypervisor with nova-compute node ... then yes, that's right18:23
pravkaI have publicURL endpoints configured with https (terminated on a load balancer), yet keystone is returning them as http18:23
pravkaany idea why?18:23
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Madkissi see.18:23
tdanzigsearching for others with this problem lead me to, but there are no answers there18:23
tdanzig(no relevant answers anyway)18:24
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sibOk, CaptainTacoSauce so I create another vm, install ubuntu + neutron on it. Remove nova-network from previous two nodes. Clean there hosts files. and then how do i fix all the conf files?18:24
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CaptainTacoSaucesib: Um, one at a time :-\18:25
sibSince I need to hit teh controller db's, the rabbitmq etc18:25
CaptainTacoSauceNow I think the guide is supposed to cover a migration from nova-network to neutron.18:25
sibA ok, Ill give it a look then.18:26
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sibDoes nova neutron need more than 1 gb ram?18:26
Madkissif your cloud isn't productive, you might just as well trash it and re-start.18:26
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MadkissYou may want to look into Kickstack, using that, you will ne able to get an OpenStack cloud up in an hour or so.18:26
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CaptainTacoSaucemy neutron node runs with 1/2 GB18:27
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sibMadkiss: I dont want to get into a hole new set of thigns(puppet etc). I will give neutron a try first18:31
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sibCaptainTacoSauce: I was asking a few moves in advance because I will have to change teh nics of my previous vm's aswell when i install neutron18:32
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sibThe eth0 of my previous vm's(which is bridged with pc), will remain static? or dhcp and let neutron break stuff18:32
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CaptainTacoSauceYeah honestly I am kind of thinking Madkiss may be right. It may be less hassle to start fresh. It's one thing to break off neutron and add it, but its quite another if you need to reconfigure for neutron and change your whole network design at the same time.18:33
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sib.. any tutorials for a clean design:P18:34
sibalso, Dedicated network nodes have a MGMT_INTERFACE NIC, a DATA_INTERFACE NIC, and a EXTERNAL_INTERFACE NIC.18:34
sputnik13nethow does one view free space on cinder nodes short of going in at the OS level?18:34
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sputnik13netis there an openstack cli command for this?18:34
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CaptainTacoSauceI've never touched kickstack but it sounds like they've scripted it to do it all for you:
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sibA, so there is a chance it will install everything on 3 vms and they will work? :P18:38
sib(without having problems after reboot like devstack)18:38
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sibMadkiss: You have used kickstack to install on vm's. with correct networking, and have it work  after a reboot?18:43
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tdanzigoh hmmm, nova-manage thinks I'm using the default sqlite DB despite my connection string in nova.conf pointing to a mysql DB18:43
tdanzignova-manage db sync just recreates /var/lib/nova/nova.sqlite18:44
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sibtdanzig: did you delete the sqlite before creating tables in mysql?18:44
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tdanzigsib: no18:44
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tdanzigsib: I have 'connection = mysql://nova:SECRET@controller/nova' in /etc/nova/nova.conf though18:45
sibnot sure which part you installed but, look at number 318:45
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sib(its the same for all nova parts though)18:45
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tdanzigsib: the other services (keystone, glance) are using the MySQL DB18:48
tdanzigit's just nova that's misbehaving18:48
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CaptainTacoSauceAlright I'm off to lunch, whichever path you go down, we'll figure it out. :D18:50
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pablohndoes somebody have a FreeBSD based vm?18:53
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pablohnsomebody has*18:54
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sibtdanzig: nova compute u mean?18:57
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pablohnI mean an instance sib18:58
tdanzigsib: on the controller… so nova-api, nova-schedular, etc.18:58
tdanzigI have a [database] section in my /etc/nova/nova.conf that points to mysql18:59
tdanzigI've created the mysql database18:59
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tdanzigand created a nova user18:59
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sputnik13netanyone use neutron flat network?19:06
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sibtdanzig: sorry but ask someone else19:11
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ppradhanhi, I can't reszie my instance. it says: ERROR nova.virt.libvirt.driver [-] Getting disk size of instance. What's am i missing?19:16
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Gamekiller77ppradhan: are you booting from image or Volume19:17
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ppradhanGamekiller77: image19:17
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Gamekiller77so i never done this19:17
Gamekiller77but form that you can not19:18
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ppradhanyou mean it has to be volume?19:18
Gamekiller77image is ephemeral19:18
Gamekiller77there no phyical disk to the VM19:18
ppradhani c19:18
Gamekiller77yah a lot of people mix that up19:19
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ppradhanwhat about miigrate to another compute node. it has to be volume as well?19:19
Gamekiller77if you want to treat it like a VM like you would like ESXi19:19
ppradhani am talking about block migrate19:19
Gamekiller77there is no block19:19
Gamekiller77it a glance boot so is should migrate just fine19:19
Gamekiller77as it off glance19:19
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Gamekiller77what your backend storage19:19
tdanzigsib: no worries, thanks anyway19:20
ppradhanfor image? or instance?19:20
Gamekiller77for cinder19:20
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Gamekiller77lot easyer to say glance and cinder19:20
Gamekiller77it assumed19:21
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Gamekiller77glance is images cinder is instance19:21
ppradhanI am not using cinder right not19:21
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ppradhaninstances live on local disks19:22
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ppradhanactually when I try to block migrate an instance it failed.19:22
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Gamekiller77oo ok yah will not migrate19:22
Gamekiller77from what i seen19:22
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Gamekiller77i hear it works but i have yet to get it to work19:23
Gamekiller77i have ceph so glance and cinder are in one19:23
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ppradhanyes it should work from what I've read19:23
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sibHas anybody used this tutorial? for a 3 part installation
sibalso, it mentions quantom, do i just replace with neutron or do i need extra changes?19:24
jfarschmanreplace it with Neutron.19:24
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jfarschmanI have seen others simply replace it and they have had success.  I went with nova-network19:25
sibI tried nova-network but things arent working19:25
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jfarschmansib: well there are guys who can help you with either here.19:27
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sibI have two vm's, controller compute, on my pc. Followed the openstack wiki tutorial. But I have problems making one communicate with the other.19:28
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sibThe people helping me on the irc told me to switch to neutron if possible.. and now im trying to figure out the simpliest solution19:29
jfarschmanfeel free to post errors we we can work you through them19:29
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jfarschman I have a DNS issue I need to fix really fast19:29
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Gamekiller77sib: i would do nuetron with OVS19:33
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siband how hard is it to convert a broken 2vm (compute controller both with nova-network) to 3vm...19:34
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sibGamekiller77: do you have an good tutorials for a 3 node installation??19:36
sibGamekiller77: also, take into account I will build everthing inside vm's..19:37
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Gamekiller77i have not published anything as of yet19:37
Gamekiller77i use the doc on the wiki and followe the multi node setup19:38
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tdanzigokay, so it looks like nova-manage isn't parsing /etc/nova/nova.conf at all19:38
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sibGamekiller77: The tutorial uses do i convert to neutron..19:40
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Gamekiller77let me find the doc hold on19:40
Gamekiller77what distro you on sib19:40
sibim a  linux pc, using kvm to host vms. I am using ubuntu13.10 as base19:40
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sibi plan to host 3 vms(i was told this was the best)19:41
sibprobably with this format
sibBut I already have 2 vms workingc19:42
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sibcontroller/compute. But they aren't communicating correctly between them.19:42
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sibAfter 1+ days of trying to find the solution I was told neutron will be easier kinda.19:42
sibSo want to convert mine into 3vm with neutron19:43
Gamekiller77what you running RHEL or Ubuntu19:43
sibubuntu 13.1019:44
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Gamekiller77ok hold on19:44
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Gamekiller77i followed this
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sibwhich you installed on a 3d vm(for example)19:46
t0x1cHi guys, does anybody know if Piston supports other hypervisors than KVM? From my understanding they only support KVM but I want to be sure about this19:46
siblets say that worked. What do we change to controller/compute for the 3way package to work19:46
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Gamekiller77sib: i have like 38 VMs19:47
Gamekiller77every service is on it own host19:47
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Gamekiller77and is dual hosted for app HA19:47
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Underbytehey guys19:51
Underbytesup Gamekiller7719:51
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sibGamekiller77: all ur vm's have nics with bridge enabled?19:58
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sibor do u use nat or something else19:59
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CaptainTacoSaucewb Underbyte :D20:05
Underbytehey guys20:06
CaptainTacoSauceyou get sorted out last night?20:07
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Underbyteyeah, although i've kind of had a second idea ever since last night20:07
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Underbytebasically "if budget really isn't a concern, why not go beefy and have more then enough computing power for anything we need in the near future?"20:08
Underbyte(resources have traditionally always been scarce at our company, and it slows down development)20:08
CaptainTacoSauceI didn't realize budget wasn't a concern, I thought you were having trouble justifying 2 metal boxes.20:09
sibCaptainTacoSauce: hello again. just some input, should i go with this:, or
sibas a "network" setup20:09
CaptainTacoSauceI like the first one, havana, neutron, flat. That's the guide I used.20:09
UnderbyteCaptainTacoSauce: yeah i didn't either until the president of the company pretty told my boss that it wasn't20:09
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Underbyteso last night i whipped togeather a R910-based 22K 40C monster20:10
sibso compute/network have 2 interfaces, controller has only 120:10
CaptainTacoSaucewow okay, yeah I don't really have much experience in designing full scale production, I'm still curious just how many layers you need to break off in to their own boxes.20:10
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CaptainTacoSaucein my setup, compute also only has one nic20:10
CaptainTacoSaucebut however you want to build it, we'll figure it out :D20:11
jfarschmanHey Guys… solved my multi_host DNS not replicating problem. I had to set update_dns_entries=true20:11
CaptainTacoSauceso Underbyte how many nodes is that?20:11
jfarschmanis there a way inject a few more entries that are not in the openstack ?20:11
UnderbyteCaptainTacoSauce: 120:11
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Underbyte1 monster, MONSTER one20:11
szaus18in debian there is a qemu-kvm package that contains /usr/bin/kvm and got invoked when i launch an instance, what's this kvm related to qemu-system-* binaries?20:11
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CaptainTacoSaucehmm, did you order it yet?20:12
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Underbytewe're just exploring all our options at this point20:12
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szaus18i was expecting openstack would use qemu-system-x86_64 for example to launch cirros instead of /usr/bin/kvm20:12
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CaptainTacoSauceokay, if it were me, I'd rather see 20 medium sized boxes than one monster20:12
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CaptainTacoSauceour nodes are 12 core, 48GB of RAM, so not huge, but we have thousands of them20:12
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Underbytewell, the logic behind getting one monster was "well, until we can handle HA at the application level, why dont we scale vertically, handle it at the hardware level, and expand horizontally later?20:13
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CaptainTacoSauceI think that is kind of against the philosophy behind openstack, though maybe someone else will disagree20:14
CaptainTacoSaucein any case, I wouldn't build with less than 2 or 3 physical if its not just a lab20:14
Underbyteis your concern with that primarily because of SPOF?20:15
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Sam-I-AmCaptainTacoSauce: can i have some of your hardware? :)20:15
CaptainTacoSaucehaha sure, we have a position open on my team ;)20:15
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CaptainTacoSauceno, I think you have a single point of failure either way20:16
CaptainTacoSauceI mean its designed to fail so SPOF doesn't necessarily mean the same thing20:16
CaptainTacoSauceyour compute nodes should be dedicated to spinning up VMs, so 1-2 physical boxes doing server virt and only server virt20:17
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Underbytenot that i'm arguing, i'm just curious what the rationale is behind "compute machines only running nova-compute"20:17
CaptainTacoSauceI guess I come from a reseller point of view, so every GB of RAM on a compute node that isn't being offered up for sale is money you're throwing away20:18
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CaptainTacoSauceideally, you want those nodes loaded down with VMs and having as high performance and low contention as possible20:18
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jfarschmanFrom my standpoint, the compute node should be easy to rebuild incase it dies.20:18
Underbyteeasy to rebuild?20:19
CaptainTacoSauceanother good point, they should be disposable20:19
Mongo2CaptainTacoSauce: neutron, provider networks and vlans will work with one nic20:19
jfarschmankeeping just the compute and network services makes it easy for Puppet to rebuild it20:19
Underbyteor Chef :P20:19
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jfarschmanUnderbyte: or chef20:20
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CaptainTacoSauceMongo2, Oh, you're saying you can cut the neutron node down to just one nic? I struggled with that, I kept isolating myself from the network, I needed another NIC just so I could access it.20:20
Underbyteokay, so a couple of quick questions then:20:20
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Underbytefor the control node,20:20
Mongo2CaptainTacoSauce: you have to enable name spaces and use vlans on the network20:21
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Underbyteyou guys said keep it simple, it doesn't need much power to run things, right?>20:21
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Mongo2CaptainTacoSauce: so make sure to use ubuntu and not a RHEL based OS20:21
Mongo2rhel 6's kernel is too old for network name spaces20:21
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sgranMongo2: namespaces work in 6.520:21
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CaptainTacoSaucewow, interesting, I didn't know namespaces were so new, RHEL 6.5 came out like this week didn't it?20:22
Mongo2sgran: with havana?20:22
Mongo2CaptainTacoSauce: 6.5 is still based on an older kernel20:22
Sam-I-Amwhat about with the 'special' openstack kernel?20:22
Sam-I-Amwhich installs with the openstack repo20:22
szaus18need nova-compute uses qemu-system-* instead of /usr/bin/kvm on debian20:23
CaptainTacoSauceUnderbyte, It all depends on scale and how many VMs we are talking about and all these other variables. Assuming just to get off the ground and get it started, right, you can keep them pretty small.20:23
Mongo2no idea, ubuntu is just easier at this point in time20:23
Mongo2szaus18: that is libvirt IIRC20:23
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sgranwe are running ubuntu because this was an issue at the time we deploye20:24
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szaus18Mongo2: will check at that, I need virsh do qemu-system-* instead of /usr/bin/kvm as I don't have the latter on ppc20:26
jfarschmanHey, I really could use some theory help.  I got my compute nodes to finally start fancasting DNS entries (--addn-hosts)  but I used to have some entries in that --addn-hosts file that were overwritten.20:27
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jfarschmanwhat's the best way to reinject them….. they don't live in the stack.20:27
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Mongo2szaus18: file a bug with debian, the location is hardcoded for virsh, or just create the symlink :)20:35
Mongo2szaus18: /usr/bin/kvm is a shell script on x86 btw that just calls the correct qemu20:36
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UnderbyteCaptainTacoSauce: if you had to pick a dell model line for a nova compute node, which one would you go with?20:38
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CaptainTacoSauceOh I'm an HP guy, I don't even know the Dell model numbers, but we run ProLiant 170's.20:38
szaus18Mongo2: not really, at least on wheezy it's a binary in similar size as those qemu-system-*20:38
CaptainTacoSauceSo near the bottom of the line.20:38
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sgranszaus18: steve@varinia:~$ file /usr/bin/kvm20:38
jfarschman1 RU sor ot systems20:39
sgran/usr/bin/kvm: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object,20:39
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sgrannot here20:39
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szaus18sgran: i was told on sid it's not a script wrapper for qemu-syste-*20:39
szaus18but not on wheezy at least, maybe debian is 'fixing' it20:39
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sgranI am checking on a wheezy laptop20:40
CaptainTacoSauceactually wait we did buy some Dell gear, let me find the model20:40
szaus18sgran: i mean on sid it is a script now, but not on wheezy20:40
sgranah, perhaps20:40
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szaus18Mongo2: by symlink I guess you're saying something like ln -s qemu-system-* kvm ?20:40
szaus18i compared both kvm and qemu-system-* and indeed they have 90% args in common20:41
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CaptainTacoSauceUnderbyte, We have a Dell lab with "PowerEdge C6105s"20:41
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CaptainTacoSauceUnderbyte, in that case, you can buy your one 'monster box' and its actually 4 servers :D20:43
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szaus18libvirt/qemu/instance-00000002.xml:    <emulator>/usr/bin/kvm</emulator>20:44
sgranjust symlink /usr/bin/kvm to the correct qemu and see what happens?20:44
sgransome of the options are probably different and it will fail, but it might give you a starting point20:45
UnderbyteCaptainTacoSauce: lol20:46
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UnderbyteCaptainTacoSauce: why are you a fan of HP over dell?20:48
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CaptainTacoSauceOnly because every shop I've worked at has been an HP shop, not because they're superior. I've had coworkers talk about how Dell has 3x the failure rate of an HP but I have no personal experience to back that up.20:49
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Underbytemy primary issue with HP so far based on my experiences is that their ordering system sucks20:50
Underbyteyou can't configure anything20:50
CaptainTacoSauceI don't do my own ordering, we have a team for that. :D20:50
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Gamekiller77lol i had a lot of disk failers with mine HP before i switch to UCS20:51
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Underbytewell cisco doesn't have the best customization system either :P (or at least from what i can tell)20:52
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Gamekiller77what do you mean20:52
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Underbytethats one of the things i've always really liked about dell, when you buy a system from them you can configure it EXACTLY the way you want it, and get a quote for that configuration without ever talking to anyone20:52
Gamekiller77i do all my own setup and orders so no idea20:53
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Jokke_Underbyte: what do you want to configure?20:54
Underbyteoh for example: any system i have has got to at the very least come with RAID 6 and redundant PSU's20:54
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Underbytewith most other vendors you have to talk to someone20:57
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Underbytewith dell, thats a couple of check boxes20:57
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Jokke_Underbyte: tru ... you get to pay the list price also20:58
szaus18sgran: the symlink worked20:58
Jokke_Underbyte: FuSi at least years ago had everything doable over the web ordering20:59
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lineaHello is the conf.d architecture supports proxy conf  in swift also  also what is the content of the file default.base  is it just a symlink from this link20:59
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devoidHi folks, I'm still getting an Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials reply from "glance image-list"21:03
devoidLooking in the glance logs, it's saying… alledProcessError: Command 'openssl' returned non-zero exit status 421:03
jfarschmandid you try setting the flavor at the end of the glance-api.conf21:04
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devoidyes, that got us up to the ssl error state21:05
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jfarschmandevoid: O dpm21:06
jfarschmantI don't recall seeing that error… but remember that DNS problem I was having.  I'm still having it.21:07
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devoidthis looks like a problem with the pki tokens, anyone successfully debugged issues with that?21:15
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jfarschmandoes your keystone work?  Keystone user-list21:16
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devoidyea, the glance user can talk directly to keystone21:17
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devoidand run any of those functions21:17
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jfarschmanthen you have a mis configuration in glance21:18
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jfarschmanyou should have edited glance-api-paste.ini, glance-registry-paste.ini, glance-api.conf and glance-registry.conf21:19
jfarschmanearlier when you had to leave you sent a paste bin, but it was for only one file.21:19
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devoidglance-registry.conf has much of the same information21:20
jfarschmandevoid: registry and api are pretty much the same changes, yes.21:20
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devoidis there a case where I have to leave the auth_username or auth_password or auth_tenant blank because presumably glance is copying the client request to keystone?21:21
jfarschmanini files need the auth_hosts set at the bottom21:21
jfarschmanI think you have to set them21:21
jfarschmanadmin_tenant_name = service  /   admin_user = glance   /   admin_password = mysecret21:22
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devoidright, I'm doing that. Side-note: why? Shouldn't this get pulled from the api.conf and registry.conf files? I was told by the nova devs not to mess with it's paste.ini files.21:22
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jfarschmanseems like those are variables.21:23
jfarschmanand you are right, they should just work.21:24
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devoid(Also why separate api and registry files?)21:24
jfarschmanI've exhausted the easy stuff and I still have a DNS problem21:24
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jfarschmanglance-manage db_sync  works? or this is where the error comes in?  Asking so you can restate the problem and maybe a lurker will take over21:25
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szaus18how is the instance such as instance-00000005.xml defined? how can I modify that? is really a hack21:26
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szaus18can i somehow predefine my own instance xml then launch it21:27
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occupantdid... something happen to #openstack-puppet? completely empty unregistered channel now.21:47
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mgagneoccupant: try #puppet-openstack21:47
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Gamekiller77Sam-I-Am: i fixed my problem btw for got what it was but i am up now21:49
Sam-I-AmGamekiller77: which problem was this?21:50
Gamekiller77i am trying to remeber21:50
Gamekiller77Service Info21:50
Sam-I-Amnot enough rainbow and unicorns error?21:50
Gamekiller77it would not render on the dashboard21:50
Sam-I-Amoh right21:50
Sam-I-Ambut it worked in cli... or something21:50
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Gamekiller77stale DB entry from ugprade from grizzly to havana21:51
Gamekiller77i deleted the line and it worked21:51
Sam-I-Amhow did you find it?21:51
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Gamekiller77CLI odd out put21:52
devoidMy issue isn't with db-sync. It happens when I make a request to glance and glance tries to check the token against keystone.21:52
Sam-I-Amdevoid: whats this?21:52
Gamekiller77PKI then devoid21:52
devoidSo after glance and keystone have sync'd their respective database.21:52
Gamekiller77we had the same problem it was our SLB21:52
devoidSam-I-Am, Gamekiller77, yes probably PKI. Can you run PKI without SSL?21:52
Gamekiller77you have to switch it to UUID21:53
devoidi.e. just use PKI tokens, and connect over HTTPS21:53
Gamekiller77google search it21:53
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devoidI've done that.21:53
Gamekiller77we did it and did not work as it was the SLB21:53
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Gamekiller77software load blanacer21:53
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devoidGlance is running its own load balancer service?21:54
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Gamekiller77for me every service21:55
Gamekiller77i running multi node21:55
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Gamekiller77i have 38 servers in my mgmt cluster21:55
devoidsame here. for us these are behind an haproxy21:55
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devoidso pki doesn't work with load balancers?21:56
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sputnik13netI'm getting "resource could not be found" errors while trying to add or list security groups as well as when trying to boot a vm via nova cli22:13
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Sam-I-Amsputnik13net: did you use the noopfirewall driver?22:15
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sputnik13netyes it's using the noopfirewall driver22:16
Sam-I-Amlast i checked that doesnt seem to work22:16
Sam-I-Amyou should switch to the other option22:16
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sputnik13netwhat's the other option22:16
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Sam-I-Amyeah that one22:17
sputnik13netk, thanks22:17
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devoidSo I am concerned that keystone-manage pki_setup gives a whole bunch of default stuff in the certificate request. Is there a way to specify the CN before it continues creating all of the stuff it needs? Or set openssl.conf22:25
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Sam-I-Ami think it may choose defaults when nothing else is set22:25
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devoidis it not using the /etc/keystone/ssl/certs/openssl.conf file?22:26
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Sam-I-Ami dont know...22:28
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sputnik13netSam-I-Am: thanks for the tip, that got me past that particular error at least :)22:37
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Underbytehey guys22:40
Underbytehow do i recover a lost admin password in openstack?22:40
devoidUnderbyte, do you need to recover it or merely change it to something you know.22:41
Underbytereset it22:41
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devoidYou should be able to change it using the admin_token in the /etc/keystone/keystone.conf file22:42
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Underbytedevoid: i'm trying, but i can't seem to find out what to set "OS_AUTH_URL" to22:45
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sibHello again, I am trying to install neutron but cant figure out how to remove nova-network correctly22:48
afmwhile reading the RDO docs…. packstack install and all in one.  when adding a compute node it looks to install everything… adjust the answer file and rerun.. does this remove packages and reconfigure the entire host (boot services et al)?22:48
devoidtypically export OS_AUTH_URL=https://<hostname>:35357/v2.022:48
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Underbytewell let me ask this22:48
Underbytethis is a pretty vanilla devstack implementation22:48
Underbytewhat is the default devstack admin password?22:48
devoidunderbyte, sorry, got that wrong22:48
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devoidOS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT is set to that22:49
devoidOS_SERVICE_TOKEN is set to admin_token22:49
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devoidyou can unset any other OS variable for safe measure22:49
devoidalthough I think if either of those are defined keystoneclient won't let you use the traditional auth method.22:50
devoidUnderbyte, unless it's devstack, I don't think there's a "default" username and password.22:50
Underbyteit is devstack22:50
devoidwell then it's probably what was set in openrc or localrc22:51
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sputnik13netis there a default password for vnc?22:54
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sibI gave up on installing neutron since my controller is falling apart again.. back to devstack edition.23:01
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sibAny ideas why I cant view vm console via dashboard? (nor ssh)23:02
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sibI have added the ssh keypairs, also enabled ssh/icmp in security settings23:03
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Sam-I-Amsib: so... do you have an openstack rc file for that tenant?23:06
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sibI really dont know. Im reading a few blogs that might have an answer and ill post back.23:08
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Abhishe__sib: the vnc console does not work?23:11
Sam-I-Amwell, from the web interface, under access->security whatever23:11
Sam-I-Amyou can get an rc file with your tenant's creds23:11
devoidwell disabling pki == easytime23:12
Sam-I-Amsource the rc file, then run 'nova get-vnc-console <instanceid> novnc"23:12
Sam-I-Amand see what sort of url it spits out23:12
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devoidso hello keystone devs, if you want us to use pki, write some docs.23:12
Sam-I-Amwhat are docs?23:12
* Sam-I-Am was being sarcastic23:12
* Sam-I-Am is fumbling through the horrid neutron docs for redhat23:12
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devoid*is still running nova-network*23:13
Sam-I-Amthe damn package is lacking a symlink that breaks the init script, thats swell23:13
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devoidI forget which ubuntu package, for a while there, stuck its default config in /etc/default/servicename23:13
devoidso you'd edit the /etc/service/service.conf and nothing would happen23:13
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devoidit was only after inspecting the init script that I saw that.23:14
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sibNo luck with forms. I ran the nova get-vnc-console you mentioned Sam-I-Am23:30
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sibAlso, when i try to ping the instance from the vm with ubuntu/devstack, I get host unreachable.. it its any help23:31
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Sam-I-Amwhat was the output of that command?23:33
sib| novnc | |23:34
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Sam-I-Amdoes anything you are running use that ip?23:34
sibthe vm with ubuntu/devstack on it23:35
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sibI did a total clean install of devstack on a ubntu13.10 vm23:36
sibgot instances running..but cant access them23:37
Sam-I-Amare you using that ip for any of your hosts?23:37
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sibThat Ip is used by the ubuntu openstack host23:38
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sibwhich has the vm's so i think its normal23:38
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Sam-I-Amcan you ping that ip?23:39
sibfrom outside the vm yes23:39
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Sam-I-Amis port 6080 open on that ip?23:41
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sibhow do i check that? iptabels -L -n?23:41
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Sam-I-Amtelnet ip port#23:42
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Sam-I-Amif it answers, its open23:43
Sam-I-Amor just netstat -an | grep 608023:43
Sam-I-Amso its not listening23:43
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Sam-I-Amsomewhere in nova.conf, do you have any vnc lines with 6080?23:46
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sibnovncproxy_base_url =
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Sam-I-Amdo you have a line vncserver_listen ?23:48
sibvncserver_listen =
Sam-I-Amchange that to your .11 ip23:49
sibalso this vncserver_proxyclient_address =
Sam-I-Amand that one too23:49
sibok, changing. and what do i restart?23:49
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Sam-I-Amrestack... if its devstack23:50
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Sam-I-Amwhat was in your devstack config file before you ran
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sibthe localrc?23:51
sibonly the default passwords23:51
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sibIf i rerun restack, wont it delete the instances I have and any changes in general?23:51
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Sam-I-Ami dont think restack does23:52
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Sam-I-Amproblem with devstack is there's no real way to restart stuff piece by piece23:52
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Sam-I-Amsince its not a 'real' install23:52
Sam-I-Amyou'd probably be better off with RDO if you want a proof-of-concept that a) works and b) is a real install, fwiw23:53
sibYes i know. I had it installed on a xenserver..and it hurt23:53
sibIll give rdo a try tomorrow probably, hopefully this will work23:53
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sibi dont see restack anywhere..23:54
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sibdo u mean rejoin?23:55
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Sam-I-Amer,, yeah23:57
Sam-I-Amit basically restarts stuff23:57
Sam-I-Amor you can rebut and rejoin23:57
Sam-I-Amstupid fingers23:57
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