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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Evening | 01:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo, eating | 01:25 |
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| mrproper | Cool. | 01:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: boiling hot soup | 01:26 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Home made!? | 01:28 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Speaking of, I finished up the weekend long project of making home made croissants today. | 01:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope, delivery | 01:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | how are croissants a weekend long project | 01:28 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: To make croissants you need to chill them quite a bit, plus do a lot of folds with chilling in between each folding | 01:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was thinking about making chili this weekend, but made beer instead. | 01:29 |
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| mrproper | Very nice. Yeah I sometimes make chili, not amazing at it | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | mine is pretty good | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | the beer is a chocolate coffee porter | 01:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | should be interesting | 01:31 |
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| mrproper | Those can be good, good call. | 01:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll see how it turns out. currently bubbling away. | 01:38 |
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| mrproper | When is it done | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably end of this month | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | or early feb | 01:42 |
| mrproper | Hurry the f up | 01:42 |
| mrproper | BTW, did you see Tripleo | 01:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | beer is a long process. boiling is about 4 hours, primary fermenting is about a week, secondary can be anywhere from a week to several weeks, bottling takes several hours, then it has to bottle-condition for at least 2 more weeks | 01:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes, i did | 01:44 |
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| mrproper | I used to do sourdough bread. Similar kinda | 01:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | early feb is pretty ambitious... the real flavor probably wont kick in until late feb | 01:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i have some homebrews from several years ago that got really good | 01:52 |
| mrproper | Where do you get hops | 01:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | depends. usually online or a local brewing store, but i have access to fresh hops in the summer | 01:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wish it held longer in the freezer | 01:54 |
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| mrproper | How long | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | couple of months at most | 01:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | then it just loses potentcy | 01:59 |
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| mrproper | Oh that's not long | 02:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nope | 02:03 |
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| mrproper | I need to do openstack again soon. Studying for CCNA DC though :/ | 02:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 02:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | brb | 02:18 |
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| Guest30542 | hi | 02:30 |
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| Guest30542 | Hi | 02:31 |
| Guest30542 | I have question on setting up Neutron | 02:31 |
| Guest30542 | I have been setup the Nova network before, and I would like to setup neurton, can it be run in parallel? | 02:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 02:34 |
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| mrproper | Hey | 02:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Guest30542: no, but the neutron ml2 plugin is kind of like having both | 02:34 |
| mrproper | Guest30542: No, it's one or another | 02:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: so here's an interesting one. my lab vpn started performing sub-par lately. basically not achieving decent xfer rates. | 02:35 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: IPSec? | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: its a vm on a host with other vms using the same OS, but those vms are fine | 02:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | even natively, this vm performs like crap on the network | 02:35 |
| mrproper | vmtools | 02:36 |
| * mrproper shakes head | 02:36 | |
| mrproper | When you say native, you mean bare meatl? | 02:36 |
| mrproper | metal | 02:36 |
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| Guest30542 | Sam-I-Am: I have one controller and one compute node setup with nova network, now I want to have a new compute node running neutron, can I reuse the controller without affecting the previous nova network setup? | 02:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | native meaning file transfers outside of vpn tunnels | 02:36 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Same OS as other guests in that host? | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | Guest30542: the controller uses one or the other | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yup, same version and config too | 02:37 |
| mrproper | Are the vNICs setup the same? | 02:37 |
| Guest30542 | Sam-I-Am, so you mean if I want to use Neutron, I should have a separated controller, am I correct? | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yup | 02:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | Guest30542: pretty much. nova has to know which networking is being used, and i dont think you can tell it to use both nova-net and neutron | 02:38 |
| mrproper | Wow that is odd. | 02:38 |
| Guest30542 | ok. understood. | 02:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: tell me about it | 02:38 |
| Guest30542 | for neutron, I should have one controller and one compute node, should I prepare to have one for network node? | 02:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | Guest30542: having a separate network node makes it easier to understand and troubleshoot | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | Guest30542: and the install guide kind of assumes you have three nodes | 02:39 |
| Guest30542 | ok good | 02:39 |
| Guest30542 | I will try now | 02:39 |
| Guest30542 | thank for your quick reply | 02:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 02:39 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I'm reading up on QoS now. Holy crap it's messy. | 02:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | qos on what? | 02:42 |
| mrproper | In general. Cisco but QoS as a whole. | 02:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | cisco qos always seemed weird to me with strange caveats | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | brocade and juniper seem more logical | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | but ymmv :) | 02:43 |
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| vu_ | Anybody using GRE? | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | with neutron? | 02:44 |
| vu_ | yes | 02:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 02:44 |
| vu_ | Why? | 02:44 |
| vu_ | I mean what is the use case? | 02:45 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I haven't looked at Juniper. Wouldn't be surprised if they're cleaner. | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a lab... so no particular reason | 02:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i think the main issue i had was implementation differences across platforms | 02:46 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: I see, what would be an alternative? | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | vlan mode | 02:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | or a different plugin entirely | 02:46 |
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| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: Do you encrypt GRE with something else? | 02:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no | 02:49 |
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| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: Could you share how have you configured GRE. Do you run it on CentOS or Ubuntu? | 02:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron brings up the gre tunnels | 02:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've used them on both centos and ubuntu | 02:53 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: Oh nice so its configurable via the GUI? | 02:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | mostly, yes | 02:54 |
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| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: And can one also configure via the GUI ipsec prior to GRE and have it all secure. | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | dont know the answer to that | 02:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont use encryption | 02:55 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: Still stuggling to install all. If I get lost again I may opt going to Mirantis | 02:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whats the problem? | 02:57 |
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| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: What are the guides you have used lately to install Havana? | 03:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the official install guide | 03:00 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: And all went well? Any points/parts where you got lost? | 03:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it pretty much works if you use three nodes and understand the concepts of whats going on | 03:02 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: Also, what solution do you use for object storage? | 03:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | the stuff about initial tenant networks is worded a little odd, imho | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have object storage | 03:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | my project mainly involves neutron | 03:03 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: I see | 03:03 |
| vu_ | Sam-I-Am: What do you use as secondary storage? | 03:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that was fun | 03:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wheee | 03:30 |
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| Jakey | anybody here have experience setting private up private cloud. | 03:31 |
| Jakey | question is i like to know do i need to worry about backups in | 03:31 |
| Jakey | the cloud? | 03:31 |
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| Jakey | anybody here have experience setting private up private cloud.do i need to worry about backups in a private cloud enviroment? | 04:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd say backups are important in any environment where you value your data | 04:11 |
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| coolsvap | koolhead17: hello, wassup? | 06:27 |
| koolhead17 | nothing much coolsvap | 06:28 |
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| teju | coolsvap,koolhead17 : hi ... do u know who creates/allocates the iqn numbers to the targets created when we create cinder volumes? | 06:30 |
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| coolsvap | teju: I think you are using LVMISCSI driver, and it creates the iqn once the volume is created | 06:37 |
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| teju | coolsvap: yes...i am using lvmiscsi.... i would like to know which service/method creates the iqn numbers? | 06:39 |
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| teju | coolsvap: i just need the iqn numbers of the targets...can I do this using a simple python script or cinder REST API? | 06:41 |
| thingee | teju: that would be in the brick library within cinder | 06:41 |
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| thingee | cinder.brick.iscsi.iscsi | 06:42 |
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| thingee | check create_iscsi_target() | 06:42 |
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| teju | thingee: thanks... there is a column provider_location in cinder.volumes table..is there any way to get the whole column w/o directly talking to the db? | 06:44 |
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| thingee | teju: could use the cinder.volume module | 06:45 |
| thingee | it's not exposed in the rest api though | 06:46 |
| thingee | errr | 06:46 |
| thingee | you could use volume rest api and list the volume(s) details and that should show the column I think | 06:46 |
| * thingee double checks | 06:46 | |
| teju | thingee: well... no,the iqn numbers are not listed ... | 06:47 |
| thingee | yeah, actually no you can't | 06:47 |
| thingee | so currently using the cinder.volume.api.API.get(volume_id) is the only way. | 06:48 |
| teju | to create tables with columns like provider_location, there must be models.py file...right? | 06:48 |
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| thingee | it's already in the table. it's just not exposed because of cinder.api.v2.views.volumes.ViewBuild.detail() | 06:49 |
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| teju | will cinder.volume.api.API.get(volume_id) list iqn numbers? | 06:50 |
| thingee | it'll give you back a volume object, to which you can get the provider location data | 06:51 |
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| thingee | there is also get_all() which would give a list of volume objects for a given context. | 06:52 |
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| teju | thingee : v=cinder.volume.api.API.get('a2ef7aa1-861f-41a4-91ba-18040e4b2000') ...is there anything wrong with this? | 06:56 |
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| thingee | yeah, you need API() to be instantiated. Also I apologize from my previous instructions but you also need to pass a context as a first argument. | 06:57 |
| teju | can u plz provide a correct method call ?? | 06:58 |
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| teju | thingee: yes,it takes 3 args: self,context,volume_id....so,how can i make a correct call and get a volume object? | 06:59 |
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| thingee | teju: you would first need to create a context. This is done with cinder.context.RequestContext. Once you have a context you can passing that into volume.api.API.get() with the volume id. | 07:03 |
| thingee | teju: really I think you would be better off asking folks about exposing the information in the api. | 07:03 |
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| teju | thingee: thanks | 07:05 |
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| teju | hi...does cinder expose any API calls to list target iqn numbers?? | 07:31 |
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| ttx | koolhead17: pong | 08:08 |
| Jakey | down | 08:09 |
| Jakey | hey ttx | 08:09 |
| ttx | Jakey: hi! | 08:09 |
| Jakey | do you have experience in private cloud | 08:09 |
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| ttx | Jakey: as in, deploying lots of them ? not really | 08:11 |
| Jakey | no ttx | 08:11 |
| Jakey | just a few simple question | 08:11 |
| Jakey | um...like | 08:11 |
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| Jakey | i want to set a fault tolerance | 08:12 |
| Jakey | private cloud | 08:12 |
| Jakey | and don't worry about backups like if one physical server goes i just replaces the server and the data isn't lost | 08:12 |
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| ttx | Jakey: don't have experience in fault tolerance. My preferred setup is more the throw-away type | 08:14 |
| Jakey | ttx: what do you mean? | 08:15 |
| Jakey | ttx: can you explain in details?\ | 08:15 |
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| ttx | Jakey: basically I don't really care about fault tolerance, apps should be designed to survive the loss of a node | 08:16 |
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| cmyster | should | 08:17 |
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| cmyster | teehee | 08:17 |
| Jakey | ttx: ?? i don't get it | 08:17 |
| Jakey | so openstack is not fault tolerance? | 08:17 |
| cmyster | supposed to be | 08:19 |
| Drankis | Jakey, depends of hypervizor, with XenServer I can't achieve it, maybe with KVM it is possible ... | 08:20 |
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| ttx | Jakey: openstack itself is tolerant to node failure, but the instances are not | 08:20 |
| ttx | if you lose the node on which they are, you lose it | 08:21 |
| ttx | (sorry, having 3 parallel discussions) | 08:21 |
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| teju | Drankis,Jakey,cmyster: do u know how to list iqn numbers of the targets created when we create cinder volumes? | 08:30 |
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| cmyster | target admin (tgt-admin) | 08:31 |
| cmyster | I think -s | 08:31 |
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| teju | cmyster: i want to list iqn numbers using cinder client/REST API/any other method..not through shell command/sql query | 08:34 |
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| teju | cmyster: does cinder volume object have provider_location attribute?? | 08:37 |
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| cmyster | you have it. you can select provider_location for an IQN in the DB | 08:38 |
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| cmyster | (I don't have a machine with cinder near me at the moment, so only half truths here) | 08:38 |
| teju | cmyster...ok...let me make myself clear... i dont want to talk to the db...i would like to list iqns using REST/cinder client...is it possible?? | 08:39 |
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| cmyster | no idea :) sorry | 08:41 |
| cmyster | did you try google though ? | 08:41 |
| teju | cmyster: ok...no issues....thanks for ur time | 08:41 |
| cmyster | np | 08:41 |
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| teju | cmyster: one last ques...which service(cinder-api/volume/scheduler) assigns iqn numbers? | 08:42 |
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| thingee | teju: It's volume | 08:47 |
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| thingee | teju: I mentioned earlier it comes from brick https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/brick/iscsi/iscsi.py#L216 | 08:47 |
| teju | thingee: thanks.... there is a method in the file cinder.brick.iscsi.iscsi.py the method is initialize_connection(self,volume,connector) which is in class LioAdm...do u know who calls this method? | 08:49 |
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| Jakey | ttx: i don't get it | 08:50 |
| cmyster | grep initialize_connection on the source :) | 08:52 |
| cmyster | you will find all refs to it | 08:52 |
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| thingee | teju: volume service. whenever it calls the driver's initialize_connection method. | 08:54 |
| thingee | defaults to iscsidriver initialize_connection if the driver doesn't define it | 08:55 |
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| teju | thingee: in the method, there is a line : volume_iqn = volume['provider_location'].split(' ')[1] ..if I can get provider_location from inside the method, I must be able to access the same in the method which calls this methid | 08:57 |
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| decede | if `keystone token-get` returns "The request you have made requires authentication. (HTTP 401)" Whats gone wrong? | 09:31 |
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| sputnik13 | decede: did you include your openrc | 09:34 |
| Drankis | decede, I think you need to authenticate http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-verify.html look at section where create keystonerc file | 09:34 |
| sputnik13 | neutron hates me | 09:35 |
| sputnik13 | the feeling is becoming mutual... I'm about ready to cry :'( | 09:36 |
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| sputnik13 | been hacking away at this thing all day, and it just refuses to work | 09:36 |
| decede | sputnik13: I think the networking gets most people | 09:36 |
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| decede | sputnik13, Drankis: yes i've sourced it but it's not looking happy also tryed --os-username and --os-password with no luck | 09:38 |
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| decede | Seeing this in my keystone log: "keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 127.0.0.1" | 09:39 |
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| decede | How can I generate the hash stored in the database? | 09:39 |
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| decede | using MySQL if it matters | 09:40 |
| orion195 | Hi guys, quick question: I do see in the dashboard 2 floating IP assigned and in use... but... no instance has them assigned. How can I clean it up? | 09:40 |
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| Drankis | orion195, neutron floatingip-list then floatingip-delete id | 09:41 |
| orion195 | I'm not using neutron, nova-network ATM | 09:41 |
| orion195 | and: nova floating-ip-list -- returns: 0 | 09:41 |
| Drankis | Hmm, than I don't know. Why u think that floating IP's is in use? | 09:42 |
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| orion195 | because in the horizon | 09:43 |
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| orion195 | it says: Floating ip: 2 of 10 in use | 09:43 |
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| orion195 | here is a log of what I was speaking on friday with zzelle: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack/%23openstack.2014-01-03.log | 09:44 |
| orion195 | just look for: orion195 | 09:44 |
| orion195 | zzelle_: ping :) | 09:45 |
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| Drankis | y, mby that is a bug | 09:46 |
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| orion195 | unfortunately, I cannot reproduce it | 09:47 |
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| Drankis | sputnik13, you are using KVM? | 09:51 |
| sputnik13 | Drankis: yes | 09:51 |
| Drankis | sputnik13, than I can't help :/ | 09:52 |
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| sputnik13 | Drankis: :( | 09:52 |
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| zzelle_ | orion195, pong and match | 10:00 |
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| orion195 | zzelle_: :) | 10:00 |
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| zzelle_ | orion195, did you destroy the floating-ips ? or only disassociate them ? | 10:03 |
| orion195 | I deleted them | 10:03 |
| orion195 | but before I disassociated them | 10:03 |
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| orion195 | zzelle_: ping | 10:51 |
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| orion195 | hi guys, my openstack is running on a Xeon processor but the VM recognize the CPU as i7 | 11:21 |
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| orion195 | where do I have to adjust this? | 11:21 |
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| Gork4life | GM all | 12:03 |
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| Gork4life | I have a question. I have two servers one and comtroller and one as compute I'm trying to use storage and replicate between drives. Do I install openstack on both servers and which server would I implement the storage | 12:05 |
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| Gork4life | I have a question. I have two servers one and comtroller and one as compute I'm trying to use storage and replicate between drives. Do I install openstack on both servers and which server would I implement the storage | 12:40 |
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| user_42 | Hi All. Under Havana I've created a CentOS 6.4 Image from http://dev.centos.org/centos/hvm/ and bootet a new machine from image. Login with keypair and cloud-user works but I am not able to login or su to root user because I can't find the passwords. Does anybody know how to get it? | 13:29 |
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| user_42 | Hi All. Under Havana I've created a CentOS 6.4 Image from http://dev.centos.org/centos/hvm/ and bootet a new machine from image. Login with keypair and cloud-user works but I am not able to login or su to root user because I can't find the passwords. Does anybody know how to get them? | 13:43 |
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| decede | has anyone else had an issue with rabbitmq binding to ipv6 rather the ipv4 interface un ubuntu 12.04? | 14:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | decede: i think it binds to both | 14:08 |
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| AbyssOne | can someone point me in the right direction , horizon is throwing Exception Value: Invalid service catalog service: image, however keyston service-list shows the image service, I am missing somethign but not sure what | 14:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | service catalog service seem to refer to keystone | 14:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | the image service is glance | 14:23 |
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| AbyssOne | yeah ok I got that right I think in keystone but horizon isnt seeing it , in otehr words when I go to images on the webinterface is spits me that error | 14:26 |
| AbyssOne | sec pasty | 14:26 |
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| AbyssOne | http://pastebin.com/hbWkK0gA | 14:27 |
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| AbyssOne | there error on the top output from keystone below | 14:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seems unhappy with how glance is registered with keystone | 14:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | but that could mean other stuff | 14:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does glance image-list work? | 14:31 |
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| BuSerD | @user_42: you should have passwordless sudo access. You can enable the root account using that access but it's completely disabled by default. | 14:35 |
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| AbyssOne | Sam-I-Am: yes it works | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | AbyssOne: anything in the horizon logs? | 14:35 |
| teju | Sam-I-Am : do u know how to intercept rabbitmq messages?? | 14:36 |
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| AbyssOne | Sam-I-Am: I dont seem to have a seperate horizon log , but my apache logs are full of errors (djang I think) | 14:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | teju: well, you can't really intercept the actual messages... but there's a web interface for rabbit that might be useful to you | 14:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | AbyssOne: hmm.. something's up | 14:39 |
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| AbyssOne | http://pastebin.com/aNtkTLnk | 14:39 |
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| teju | Sam-I-Am: i just want to know the cinder messages when we create/delete cinder volume | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | AbyssOne: thats just the expanded errors from whats breaking | 14:43 |
| AbyssOne | KK thoughts so | 14:44 |
| AbyssOne | but not having luck to find any actuall logging | 14:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | how did you install horizon? | 14:45 |
| teju | Sam-I-Am:are u talking about the rabbitmq management plug in ?? | 14:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | teju: yeah, i think thats it | 14:46 |
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| AbyssOne | Sam-I-Am: think I might have found it , different cases on the regions seem to cause issues | 14:47 |
| AbyssOne | I mean lower case/upercase | 14:47 |
| AbyssOne | I will try to redefine them and see what it does | 14:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, yes it does | 14:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i see that in your paste now | 14:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | havent had enough coffee yet | 14:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | they should all be regionOne | 14:48 |
| AbyssOne | ok correcting it now | 14:48 |
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| AbyssOne | jup that was it, should pay closer attention when copy pasting solutions | 14:49 |
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| AbyssOne | thank you! | 14:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the region thing has gotten me before too | 14:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | depending on the packagers, the default is usually regionOne, but in one thing, it was RegionOne | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | and the error it threw was vague | 14:51 |
| AbyssOne | :) now to see if I can get a dashboard of a different server to run and play nice (new to openstack) so experementing a bit) | 14:51 |
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| larsks|alt | I've seen several folks report "I can't log into the cirros image because I can't type ':' on the console with my keyboard". I assume this is a keyboard mapping issue (maybe cirros is assuming a US layout?), but I'm not sure how best to suggest people work around or solve this issue. | 15:07 |
| larsks|alt | Any thoughts? | 15:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do you not have a ':' ? | 15:20 |
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| larsks|alt | This isn't my problem -- this is one that keeps cropping up in questions on ask.openstack.org. | 15:22 |
| larsks|alt | I assume it's some sort of international-keyboard-vs-us-keyboard-layout-expected issue. | 15:23 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I think my external hard drive which houses my photos just died on me. | 15:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: ew | 15:50 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: It is clicking at a regular interval | 15:56 |
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| mrproper | I'm having problems with the pins for the external drive power supply too though, so it could be that. | 15:57 |
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| mrproper | Next time I'm in the office I'm going to see if they have an extra 3.5" external I can hook up to. | 15:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: did you try rebooting? :) | 16:11 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Hehehe | 16:11 |
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| mrproper | AND I turned off my router, waited 5 seconds, and turned it back on | 16:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd get that data off quickly | 16:13 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: I can't get to the drive. Good news is it's backed up to Backblaze. | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | excellent | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i just have my mac, and it backs up to the time machine disk | 16:15 |
| mrproper | This is an external so backup to time machine is a little different. I've heard (not sure it's true) TM is a little...quirky. | 16:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its an apple product, right? | 16:16 |
| mrproper | Heh yeah | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | i had to restore my mom's laptop from scratch a few months ago and it worked fine | 16:17 |
| mrproper | They did an amazing job of TM being accessible. | 16:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | brb | 16:19 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: By the way, how is The League going? | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | actually bbl | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: great | 16:24 |
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| amber_nic | Hi all, I posted this question at askopenstack: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/10011/grizzly-is-it-possible-to-recover-novas-database-table-instance_system_metadata-where-can-i-find-info-about-the-openstack-databases/ What I don't know is how to wipeout the nova database ("drop database nova" ?) and if I do What happens with the running instances? | 17:05 |
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| larsks | There won't be any immediate impact on your running instances, but they will become "invisible" to OpenStack, which will ultimately cause problems (e.g., new instances might get created with the same ip addresses, etc). | 17:07 |
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| larsks | To re-create the database, you could simply "drop database nova" followed by "create database nova", and then run "nova-manage db sync". | 17:08 |
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| larsks | If you can post a lot of exactly what SQL commands you ran against your database, it may be possible to recover things...but probably not. | 17:09 |
| larsks | s/lot/log/ | 17:09 |
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| amber_nic | Thanks larsks! So do you recommend a fresh install? Mine is a test farm. | 17:09 |
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| larsks | A fresh install is probably simplest. And next time dump your database before editing :). | 17:11 |
| amber_nic | Thanks again! | 17:11 |
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| kylestev | you guys want to know what's really annoying? setting up devstack behind a proxy. | 17:11 |
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| csd | hi, I was looking at the tags in the openstack related repos, and I noticed that a few are not like the others :) | 17:46 |
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| csd | it seems that python-*client don't get tagged with the 201[34]* so I'm guessing they are released on their own schedule | 17:47 |
| csd | but why wouldn't switft and oslo have the same tags as the rest of the openstack repos (i.e. I don't see 2014.1.b1 in them) | 17:47 |
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| sputnik13net | it doesn't seem like you can have a neutron flat network with floating IPs... is this accurate? | 18:01 |
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| gork4life | I want to ask a question is the controller node required or optional? As well as the same question for compute. | 18:45 |
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| larsks | gork4life: They don't need to be on dedicated hardware, if that's your question, but you need the services. Does that answer your question? | 18:54 |
| larsks | That said, installing everything on one box isn't going to scale very well. But it's fine for testing things out. | 18:54 |
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| IRTermite | gork4life: the controller is required if you want things to work. Running compute instance will continue to run without it, but making changes/additions will be difficult. Compute can be on the same node as the Controller and the controller, but as larsks just pointed out it's not a suggested idea. | 18:55 |
| IRTermite | gork4life: here's some details on the controller for you. http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/yum/content/basic-install_controller.html | 18:55 |
| gork4life | larsks: Thanks | 18:56 |
| gork4life | IRTermite: Thank you as well | 18:56 |
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| gork4life | larsks: Yes you answered my question very well. I have a server as a controller so I'll have to make the other server as a compute node do I have the right idea | 18:58 |
| gork4life | larsks: One more question. If I have xenserver on a server would that make xenserver the controller | 19:00 |
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| gork4life | larsks: And if I create a vm on xenserver as compute how would get xenserver to communicate with the compute node | 19:01 |
| booi | is there any reason why keystone or compute controllers cannot be VMs on hosts that are compute nodes? | 19:01 |
| larsks | The "controller" is just where you run things like the nova-api and nova-scheduler service. The compute service (nova-compute) is what requires some sort of hypervisor. | 19:01 |
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| larsks | gork4life: I'm not sure I understand that last question. | 19:02 |
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| larsks | booi: The keystone service and nova api services can certainlly run on virtual hosts. You might find things a little complicated if you're running both openstack-managed and non-openstack-managed instances on your compute nodes, but it should work. | 19:02 |
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| booi | larsks: Ok. I mean.. how much more complicated. Basically i'm asking what are best practices | 19:03 |
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| booi | I don't like the idea of burning 2 servers for just keystone and nova api etc... | 19:04 |
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| larsks | I would say that it's best practice to dedicate your compute nodes to nova-compute. Then have another server that you use for all of the "controller" services like keystone and nova-api. | 19:04 |
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| booi | larsks: then 2 servers for controller services right for backup? | 19:06 |
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| larsks | Possibly. If you're at the stage that you're worrying about availability, you may require scalability beyond what you'll get by having all the services on one box. E.g., maybe you want to have dedicated storage nodes, etc. | 19:08 |
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| larsks | If you're just testing things out, or if you're planning on a very small initial rollout, that should be fine. | 19:09 |
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| Gamekiller77 | is there a way to change the ARP setting in neutron ? | 19:10 |
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| larsks | Gamekiller77: Which arp setting? | 19:11 |
| Gamekiller77 | the reup | 19:12 |
| Gamekiller77 | we are seeing drop | 19:12 |
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| Gamekiller77 | the ARP is not updated on the router | 19:12 |
| Gamekiller77 | so there is a resync problem so looking at changes the ARP resync timer | 19:12 |
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| larsks | Hmm, not sure. You may also want to post the question with some supporting details to ask.openstack.org. | 19:14 |
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| Gamekiller77 | external reachability drops off at regular intervals - we suspect an ARP cache timer mismatch between network and neutron - we need ARP caching default timer values for openvswitch and L3 GW | 19:15 |
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| galafreysky7777 | hi all, i've asked this question before but ended up misplacing the info. | 19:23 |
| galafreysky7777 | i'd like to install havana on a 3 node cluster | 19:23 |
| galafreysky7777 | what is the best guide to follow | 19:23 |
| galafreysky7777 | thanks | 19:23 |
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| Gamekiller77 | what distro of linux | 19:25 |
| larsks | galafreysky7777: Maybe the installation guides at http://docs.openstack.org/? If your distribution of choice has an openstack deployment tool (e.g., packstack for redhat/centos/fedora) there may be documentation specific to that tool available from the distribution. | 19:25 |
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| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: i prefer centos but I suppose ubuntu will work fine. | 19:27 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: its not for production at least for now. | 19:27 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: just want to try out all the features etc. | 19:27 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: get my feet wet | 19:28 |
| galafreysky7777 | larsks: I noticed some of the chef recipes etc on the openstack website. | 19:28 |
| galafreysky7777 | larsks: is that the best way to proceed? | 19:28 |
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| Gamekiller77 | do you know how to work with Chef | 19:32 |
| larsks | Using a tool like Chef or Puppet can certainly be helpful. If you're goal is to get something up quickly it's a good way to go. If you're not familiar with the tool, it's possible you've just shifted your learning curve. | 19:32 |
| larsks | If your goal is to understand OpenStack, doing an install by hand is a great way to figure out how everything connects. | 19:32 |
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| openstackstatus | NOTICE: gating is operating at reduced capacity while we work through a systems problem (ETA 21:00 UTC) | 19:36 |
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| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: no I don't know chef unfortunately | 19:46 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ok | 19:46 |
| galafreysky7777 | larsks: i guess my goals are two fold. First priority is to get it up and running and installed and working | 19:47 |
| galafreysky7777 | larsks: second priority is to understand the details. | 19:47 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: larsks: I guess ill try the RDO guide. | 19:47 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: larsks: that looks good. | 19:47 |
| larsks | galafreysky7777: That's probably as good a place as any to start. | 19:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah i did that and it worked ok | 19:47 |
| Gamekiller77 | i ended up using every guide on the net | 19:48 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: larsks : awsome thanks for the suggestions! | 19:48 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: thats what I'm concerned about! | 19:48 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: i.e if the guides are all over the place? | 19:49 |
| Gamekiller77 | also most guides are for single node | 19:49 |
| Gamekiller77 | not multi node so you have to read between the lines | 19:50 |
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| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: for example do they at least mention that there needs to 'n' no of management nodes for the the compute stack. | 19:53 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: and that not all services need to run on all nodes. | 19:53 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: or that some services cannot run on nodes in which another service is runnig. | 19:53 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: what is the redundancy component to it. | 19:53 |
| larsks | galafreysky7777: THe guides are generally pretty clear about what needs to run where. | 19:53 |
| galafreysky7777 | Gamekiller77: what would I need to do if I add more nodes and how does that impact the no of services running | 19:54 |
| larsks | Spend some time on docs.openstack.org; there's some good stuff there, including some helpful architecture diagrams that can make it easier to envision how things connect. | 19:54 |
| larsks | There are even some documents that explicitly address scalability. | 19:54 |
| galafreysky7777 | larsks: cool. will do. thanks again. | 19:54 |
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| larsks | galafreysky7777: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/scaling.html | 19:55 |
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| galafreysky7777 | larsks: thank you again! | 19:57 |
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| fercuenk | hello? | 21:17 |
| sputnik13net | hi | 21:17 |
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| sputnik13net | a port on my neutron router is staying "DOWN", any help troubleshooting this? | 21:18 |
| fercuenk | sorry, I'm new to openstack :-( | 21:18 |
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| fercuenk | I was actually trying to connect with people here to see how toget started | 21:18 |
| Gamekiller77 | sputnik13 what build | 21:19 |
| sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: havana... not sure which build, how would I go about checking this? | 21:19 |
| sputnik13net | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1192883 | 21:19 |
| sputnik13net | I found this bug which sounds related but I'm not sure | 21:19 |
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| Gamekiller77 | no that fine | 21:19 |
| Gamekiller77 | hold on | 21:19 |
| Gamekiller77 | what distro | 21:20 |
| sputnik13net | fercuenk: devstack if you want to start with a single box, or puppet, chef, or juju/maas/ubuntu | 21:20 |
| sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: ubuntu 12.04 | 21:20 |
| sputnik13net | using puppet openstack to deploy | 21:20 |
| sputnik13net | 12.04.3 to be more precise (no pun intended :)) | 21:20 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah | 21:20 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok so my outbound port show down | 21:20 |
| Gamekiller77 | all intneral subnets are up | 21:20 |
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| Gamekiller77 | but my private networks are fine | 21:21 |
| sputnik13net | same here, but I also cannot ping the external gateway IP that neutron puts on the outside facing port | 21:21 |
| fercuenk | thanks! | 21:21 |
| fercuenk | I'm actually a developer, hoping to contribute | 21:21 |
| sputnik13net | my private network is fine as well but I also cannot ping the router port on the private net, though I can hit dhcp that neutron is providing | 21:22 |
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| Gamekiller77 | GRE or VLAN | 21:23 |
| sputnik13net | vlan | 21:23 |
| Gamekiller77 | and what plug in | 21:23 |
| sputnik13net | ovs | 21:23 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah sorry i am on GRE ova | 21:24 |
| Gamekiller77 | VLAN looked a bit complex | 21:24 |
| sputnik13net | hmmm | 21:24 |
| sputnik13net | VLAN seems to be working fine, I'm sniffing the interface and vlan tags are being inserted fine | 21:24 |
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| sputnik13net | trying to avoid GRE because of the overhead | 21:25 |
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| Gamekiller77 | ok then the firewall stuff | 21:25 |
| sputnik13net | we need to push ~ 10gbit | 21:25 |
| Gamekiller77 | np | 21:25 |
| Gamekiller77 | there is a firewall option | 21:25 |
| Gamekiller77 | and you have to have it set coronet on the nova compute nodes and then each ova and then the L3 node | 21:25 |
| sputnik13net | coronet? | 21:25 |
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| Gamekiller77 | let me find it hold on | 21:26 |
| sputnik13net | typo? s/coronet/correct? | 21:26 |
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| sputnik13net | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_networking-provider-router_with-provate-networks.html | 21:27 |
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| sputnik13net | that's the example I'm trying to implement btw | 21:27 |
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| Gamekiller77 | what do you have for this setting in Nova | 21:29 |
| Gamekiller77 | firewall_driver=nova.virt.firewall.NoopFirewallDriver | 21:29 |
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| jameshyde | anyone using esxi hypervisor for openstack in production? | 21:30 |
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| sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: iptables driver | 21:31 |
| sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: I'd tried the noopfirewalldriver initially (a few weeks ago) and I was told that driver is broken | 21:31 |
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| Gamekiller77 | hmm ok | 21:31 |
| Gamekiller77 | that was my problem | 21:31 |
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| sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: well, I appreciate the help :) | 21:40 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah i try to help where i can | 21:41 |
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| dereky | so i seem to have gotten an extra Port (from ovs-vsctl show) in my vxlan configuration for the br-tun interface on all my nova/network nodes. It was a mistype of the local_ip. How can I purge this? | 22:03 |
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| larsks | dereky: have you tried ovs-vsctl del-port ? | 22:04 |
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| dereky | yeah, i was just advised of this | 22:04 |
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| chance | soo, im seeing that devstack broke over the weekend, and i know im not the only one having issues | 22:24 |
| chance | netaddr dependency issue with horizon, and apparently other issues too. screen is failing to be installed to output logging stdout. | 22:25 |
| chance | ect. | 22:25 |
| chance | any one have any suggestions to fixing this? | 22:25 |
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