Saturday, 2014-01-18

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Sam-I-Am.00:11
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richardkieneHola, we're currently working with a fresh install of Havana. We started experiencing intermittent network connectivity via Floating IPs, and shortly thereafter even the private default gateway was not reachable from VMs.00:17
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richardkieneAll the health stats for neutron look good, and we didn't change anything related to networking on the host machines themselves00:18
richardkienewe're using Neutron with GRE tunnels00:18
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richardkieneCurious to see if anyone else has encountered this issue, or if there are some helpful troubleshooting tips I can be pointed at?00:19
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rkeeneIs there a man page for nova.conf somewhere ?00:22
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Sam-I-Amrichardkiene: do you know where the packets are stopping?00:25
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richardkienelooks like iptables was the culprit00:26
richardkieneso at the host level00:26
Sam-I-Amon the compute node?00:26
richardkienecontroller00:26
Sam-I-Amwhat is neutron doing on your controller?00:27
richardkienewe used mirantis Fuel to deploy, it places it on the controller(s)00:28
Sam-I-Amahh00:28
Sam-I-Amso its basically your network node00:28
richardkieneyeah00:28
richardkienethe iptable issue was probably incorrect all along, but why it ever worked we're trying to figure out :)00:29
Sam-I-Amwhat was that issue?00:29
richardkienewell... we're not sure yet, we just turned iptables off at this point00:31
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richardkienehopefully we'll find something in logs00:31
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Sam-I-Amwait... all the way off?00:33
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richardkieneyeah :( just temporarily00:35
richardkienejust a diagnostic step :D00:36
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Sam-I-Amdid the box have any default firewall enabled?00:37
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richardkienejust iptables I believe00:38
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Sam-I-Amat least on my configs, iptables doesn't do much on the controller/network node00:39
Sam-I-Ammost of the tenant/vm rules are applied on the compute node00:39
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richardkienewe've got 42 rules on our controllers00:40
Sam-I-Amwhat are they?00:40
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Sam-I-Amand so traffic to the floatingip (connected to the controller) got stuck at the controller and didn't propagate to the compute node?00:41
richardkieneseems that way00:43
richardkieneI can paste the rules in if you'd like00:43
richardkienejust re-enabled iptables to list the rules, and we can reach the VMs and the VMs can reach their gateway now00:43
Sam-I-Amthats kind of strange00:44
Sam-I-Amso... no particular rule was causing the problem?00:44
richardkienehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/61483/00:44
richardkienenot quite sure at this point00:45
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richardkienegoing to check the logs now because the issue is happening again now that iptables is enabled00:46
Sam-I-Amok00:46
Sam-I-Ami see that the firewall there is providing host-level firewalling for all of the daemons00:46
Sam-I-Amit would be interesting to ping the floatingip and do a count on rule hits to see what rule is getting hit00:47
richardkieneI'm questioning if it is actually logging...00:49
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Sam-I-Amwhich piece?00:50
richardkieneiptables00:51
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Sam-I-Amiptables itself usually doesnt log, but you can count rule hits with -v00:52
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richardkienehem for some reason I thought it logged to kern.log, I'll start checking hits00:53
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Sam-I-Amthe VMs also can't see 'out' at this point?00:54
richardkieneultimately that is what happens yeah00:55
richardkienelet me see if it has gotten that bad00:55
richardkieneit is a slow degradation of service until it all just falls over00:55
richardkienethey can still see out at this point00:55
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Sam-I-Amthats unusual00:57
Sam-I-Ami'm not familiar with the fuel config, but do the compute nodes use a separate interface/network for 'tunnel' traffic terminating at the controller node?00:57
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richardkienehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/61484/00:58
richardkienethat is about 30sec after resetting counters00:59
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richardkienethe drop statement isn't incrementing, so that seems weird01:00
Sam-I-Amyeah its not01:01
Sam-I-Ami was just about to say that01:01
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Sam-I-Amwhen this is broken, can you ping the virtual router's gw address?01:01
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richardkienenope01:01
Sam-I-Amer, the outside one01:01
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Sam-I-Amhave you used the neutron commands before?01:02
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richardkienewhen it finally tips over you can get to the node via the web console, and it can't ping anything01:03
richardkieneyeah we've run been running the neutron list command a bit01:03
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Sam-I-Amwhat distro is this on?01:04
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richardkienecentos01:08
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Sam-I-Amhow new is this installation?01:09
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richardkienefinished it last night01:12
Sam-I-Amwhat kernel is it running?01:13
richardkienenew hardware, new NICs, new switches, cables, etc.01:13
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richardkiene2.6.32-358.123.3.openstack.el6.x86_6401:13
Sam-I-Amits weird that it works and slowly degrades. do you see packets start randomly disappearing?01:14
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richardkienewell I haven't looked at packet loss on the VMs themselves while it is degrading01:14
richardkieneI know that my SSH sessions via floating IPs were getting stalled and sometimes completely disconnected01:14
richardkieneso I assume there was lots of packet loss01:15
richardkienethe linux VMs we're running have TONS of DHCP chatter in syslog, which seems weird01:15
Sam-I-Amdefine tons01:15
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Sam-I-Amand how much throughput are you seeing on all of the interfaces?01:15
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richardkienewell now I'm not seeing as much, but I was seeing multiple DHCP lines in the log per second01:17
richardkienenow it looks like a few per minute01:17
Sam-I-Amand things are working?01:17
richardkieneat the moment, yeah01:18
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Sam-I-Amwhat were the dhcp log entries?01:19
Sam-I-Amand how many VMs do you have01:19
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richardkiene10 VMs so far01:19
richardkienelooks like I'm only getting 70KB/s from a cloud front download doing a wget01:20
richardkienefrom an Ubuntu VM01:20
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richardkieneI have a dedicated 100Mbps pipe at the datacenter for this, and from a physical machine through the same switch I'm able to get much better download speeds01:21
Sam-I-Amis this using neutron with GRE?01:21
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richardkienecorrect01:22
Sam-I-Ami'm not sure what tweaks fuel does, but theres a few settings which improve performance in certain environments01:22
richardkienehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/61486/01:22
richardkienethat is the DHCP info in syslog01:23
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Sam-I-Amthose are low lease times01:23
richardkieneyeah that is what I was thinking01:23
Sam-I-Ambut normal traffic for that time01:23
datamaticho ho ho01:24
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Sam-I-Ami'm wondering if there's some sort of broadcast/udp storm or something going on01:24
Sam-I-Ambasically something that's killing a kernel somewhere01:24
Sam-I-Ami'd be curious about load averages when its broken01:24
Sam-I-Amdatamatic: hi01:24
richardkieneBroadcast storm could be possible01:25
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datamatichey richardkiene, the plethora of lease renewals is fine.01:25
richardkienewe did make a rather large subnet for the floating and private IP ranges01:25
datamaticis that's what the concern is. I didnt read till way back01:26
richardkienewe lazily made a /16 subnet01:26
datamaticalthough that would throttle wour quantum-server01:26
datamaticyour*01:26
richardkienedatamatic: the lease time was just something I was curious about01:26
richardkienethe weird thing is that we turned iptables off and suddenly we could reach our VMs again01:27
richardkienewe've turned it back on and now we're having slow degradation of service01:27
Sam-I-Amdatamatic: this is iptables on the combo controller/network node01:27
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Sam-I-Amhttp://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.html01:28
Sam-I-Am^^  see note in ste 501:28
Sam-I-Amstep01:28
Sam-I-Amabout GRO01:28
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richardkienegonna have to go digging to figure out where that is set...01:30
Sam-I-Amethtool iirc01:30
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richardkieneI supposed I'd want to do that on each of the controllers01:32
Sam-I-Amiirc, its particularly of interest on the underlying interface for br-ex01:33
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richardkieneI see that one...01:33
richardkienelooks like to persist GRO being off it would be in /etc/rc.local01:34
richardkienechecking..01:34
richardkienenm there is a more specific interface file, and it is not configured off01:35
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richardkiene_I assume I would want GRO off on every int-br-ex?01:44
Sam-I-Amyeah01:45
Sam-I-Amany place traffic wanders to the internet methinks01:45
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richardkiene_well I've ran "ethtool -K int-br-ex gro off" on each of the controllers01:49
richardkiene_wget seems not so hot still01:49
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Sam-I-Amcould also be MTU issues01:50
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richardkiene_e.g. the default ~1500 might be fragmenting traffic?01:51
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Sam-I-Amyeah01:52
Sam-I-Amsomewhere around here is a doc for tweaking neutron with gre01:52
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decciI am facing this issue while setting up Compute node through packstack and RDO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771580/01:55
decciERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 10.94.214.181_prescript.pp Notice: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel01:55
decciI have EPEL repo enabled. ls epel-openstack-havana.repo  epel-testing.repo       rdo-release.repo epel.repo                   foreman.repo            rhel-base.repo epel.repo.rpmnew            puppetlabs.repo.backup  rhel-source.repo01:55
decciSeems like epel-release is not installed01:58
richardkiene_Sam-I-Am: That was it!01:58
richardkiene_I had to turn it off on the actual interface that br-ex represents01:58
Sam-I-Amrichardkiene_: what was it?01:58
richardkiene_so in my case eth401:58
Sam-I-Amyeah, its the underlying interface01:59
richardkiene_sounds like a bug in fuel I'll have to report :) thank you very much for your help02:00
Sam-I-Amsure... did this resolve the issue of things dying?02:00
Sam-I-Amor just the slow xfer rates02:00
decciI installed epel-release and have restarted the packstack for compute node02:01
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richardkiene_I believe so02:02
richardkiene_my download from cloud front went form 60KB/s to 10.2MB/s02:02
richardkiene_and apt-get update no longer takes 30minutes02:02
Sam-I-Amrichardkiene_: cool. i would recommend filing a bug that maybe neutron-gre installs should disable GRO by default (or ask)02:03
richardkiene_definitely02:03
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decciI tried installing epel-release but the same error02:06
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decciWhat repository is need for setting up packstack02:27
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Sam-I-Amdecci: is this RHEL or something like centos/scientific?02:29
decciSam-I-Am: RHEL02:29
decciSam-I-Am: RHEL 6.402:29
decciSam-I-Am: I have these repos: epel-havana-openstack.repo  puppetlabs.repo   rhel-base.repo foreman.repo                rdo-release.repo  rhel-source.repo02:30
Sam-I-Amcan you use centos or scientific linux 6.5 instead?02:30
decciSam-I-Am: I am bound to use RHEL02:30
decciSam-I-Am: I have controller node ready02:30
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decciSam-I-Am: While setting up compute node, I am facing this issue02:31
decciSam-I-Am: My Controller node had repos: ls epel-openstack-havana.repo  foreman.repo            rhel-base.repo epel.repo                   puppetlabs.repo.backup  rhel-source.repo epel.repo.rpmnew            rdo-release.repo epel-testing.repo           remi.repo.backup02:31
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decciSam-I-Am: I tried packstack --allinone on controller node and it did setup openstack successfully but while doing it for compute node, it is throwing errors related to epel02:33
Sam-I-Ami have not used rhel02:33
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Sam-I-Amso i dont know exactly how to fix its repo issues02:34
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Sam-I-Amhttp://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/comment/212102:34
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decciSam-I-Am: I dont have access to https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/7001902:36
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Sam-I-Amdo you have support with rhel?02:37
Sam-I-Amotherwise there's no reason to use rhel02:37
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decciSam-I-Am: I have internal RHN Satellite server02:38
decciSam-I-Am: which is insync with redhat02:38
Sam-I-Amok... have you tried asking in #rdo?02:39
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decciSam-I-Am: Tell me one thing - I am planning to setup a controller node and 2 compute node with Nova and Ceilometer agent. I have controller node ready. All I want to setup is Compute Node. Can I do it without puppet02:39
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decciSam-I-Am: Though I know I am facing difficulty..but is there anything I do cloning the VM02:40
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decciSam-I-Am: and making it up without actually running packstack02:40
Sam-I-Ami dont think you can clone the VM02:41
decciSam-I-Am: Can I clone ControlerVM , create 2 VMs and make changes to answerfile and setup compute nodes02:41
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Sam-I-Ami dont think so02:41
Sam-I-Amyou can try, but i dont know what it would do02:42
Sam-I-Amalternatively, you could try using mirantis 'fuel'02:42
decciSam-I-Am: All I need is 1 Controller and 2 Compute Node ready with Ceilo and Nova Compute02:42
Sam-I-Amor installing manually using the openstack install guide02:42
decciSam-I-Am: Whats that02:42
Sam-I-Amits another distribution similar to packstack02:42
decciSam-I-Am: As I have controller node ready, I was just thinking how to make compute node out of it02:43
Sam-I-Amthey have two different configurations02:44
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decciCan anyone help me with ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 10.94.214.180_prescript.pp Notice: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. Please verify its path and try again02:51
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Sam-I-Amtry a 'yum update'02:53
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decciSam-I-Am: Tried it multiple times but no fix02:54
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Sam-I-Amdid you add epel with this command?02:56
Sam-I-Amrpm -Uvh http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/i386/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm02:56
Sam-I-Ami think x86_64 is also an option02:57
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Sam-I-Amwget http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm02:58
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Sam-I-Amanother option (for 64-bit)02:59
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decciSam-I-Am: package epel-release-6-8.noarch is already installed03:02
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Sam-I-Amls -1 /etc/yum.repos.d/epel*03:03
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decciSam-I-Am: ls -1 /etc/yum.repos.d/epel* /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-openstack-havana.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo.rpmnew /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-testing.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-testing.repo.rpmnew03:06
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Sam-I-Amso it seems to be there03:07
decciSam-I-Am: Yeah03:08
decciSam-I-Am: I dont understand what the above error is all about03:08
Sam-I-Amcan you install a package from epel?03:08
decciSam-I-Am: where03:08
Sam-I-Ami dont know, your machine may be hosed from fixing other stuff03:08
Sam-I-Amtry a fresh install and then install the epel rpm03:08
decciSam-I-Am: You mean from EPEL repository03:08
Sam-I-Amyeah03:08
Sam-I-Amsee if you can install something from it03:08
decciSam-I-Am: Wait..I will revert back Vm to fresh install03:09
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decciSam-I-Am: Done.Let me show you what repo it has and what step are done till now03:10
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decciSam-I-Am: I have just 2 repos :  ls rhel-base.repo  rhel-source.repo03:11
decciSam-I-Am: I just have now rhel-source.repo03:12
Sam-I-Amok, now add that epel rpm03:12
decciSam-I-Am: link?03:12
decciwget http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm?03:13
Sam-I-Amyeah03:13
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decciSam-I-Am: I dont have rdo-release RPM installed ..FYI03:14
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Sam-I-Amyou'll need that too03:14
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decciSam-I-Am: Before this..or after this step03:15
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decciSam-I-Am: Shall I install RDO first03:15
Sam-I-Amafter03:15
decciSam-I-Am: okay03:15
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Sam-I-Amyou also need the 'optional channel' enabled03:16
decciSam-I-Am: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771880/03:16
decciSam-I-Am: Done03:16
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decciSam-I-Am: Next?03:16
decciSam-I-Am: Shall I install RDO03:16
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Sam-I-Amthe rdo repo, yes03:17
decciSam-I-Am: Or optional package first or RDO?03:17
decciSam-I-Am: How to enable optional repo03:17
Sam-I-Amhttps://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/OpenShift_Enterprise/1/html/Client_Tools_Installation_Guide/Installing_Using_the_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_Optional_Channel.html03:17
Sam-I-Amredhat is frustrating03:18
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Sam-I-Ami dont have to do any of this on centos/scientific03:18
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decciSam-I-Am: I wonder how shall I use local RHN Satellite for this03:19
decciSam-I-Am: Cant I get rubygems through yum03:19
Sam-I-Ami dont know... i'm not a redhat guy03:19
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decciSam-I-Am: I wonder how it went through for Controller03:20
decciSam-I-Am: I dint face issue while running packstack --allinone03:21
Sam-I-Amjust remember to 'yum upgrade' and reboot before running packstack03:21
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vkshi all07:03
vkswhich component in openstack create qvoXXXXX, qbrXXXX and qvbXXXX and attach instance to these ????07:03
vks????07:08
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lifelessvks: neutron, more or less07:10
lifelessI don't remember if the ovs agent does it or if the nova neutron vif plug module does it from within nova-compute07:11
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sputnik13possibly a dangerous question but I'm going to ask anyway...  ceph vs gluster? :)09:07
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mayurhi I have one query recommended hardware is 16GB & 32GB with two machine with at least dual core processor10:06
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mayurbut I am having Pentium Processor(VT enabled) & with 3 or 4 GB RAM on each would it be feasible for Openstack installation?10:08
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mayurPlease guide...!!10:08
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mayurany suggestions ?10:09
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mayurplease help.. I am stuck at installation10:23
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vkslifeless: nova driver create the qvbXXXXX, qvoXXXXX, qbrXXXXXXX10:33
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mayurhi I have one query recommended hardware is 16GB & 32GB with two machine with at least dual core processor11:21
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cppkinghello guys . i'm setting up openstack nova service  ,,when create the nova endpoiont , i used this "--publicurl=http://controller:8774/v2/%\(tenant_id\)s"  Is this argument right?12:49
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decciHi13:34
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decciI am getting this error on recently updated RHEL 6.5 machine:Notice: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. Please verify its path and try again Error: yum update -y kernel iputils iproute returned 1 instead of one of [0] Error: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: change from notrun to 0 failed13:35
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decciHow to fix this? I am trying to setup compute node through packstack. the Controller node is ready and working13:35
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pablohnI have to buy a new laptop, and I would like to play with openstack14:28
pablohnsince it uses KVM, how important is to get a CPU with VT-D?14:28
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pablohnI think VT-D is very important, but what about VT-D?14:29
pablohnVT-X is very important*14:30
hackooHow to find the release of the OpenStack, I can see a way to do "nova-manage version"14:31
hackooIs this the most suitable way to check OpenStack release name ?14:32
Sam-I-Ampablohn: its beneficial to be able to use nested vm acceleration14:32
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pablohnacceleration?14:32
Sam-I-Ampablohn: it'll still work without it, but VMs wont perform well14:32
pablohnjust acceleration?14:32
pablohnit is just for test, obviously nothing in production14:32
pablohnwould you recommend me not mind about the CPU VT-D support?14:33
Sam-I-Amif the cpu can't do nested VMs, you'll use qemu instead of kvm14:33
pablohnbut you mean support or accelerate14:33
pablohn?14:34
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pablohnI mean, I do not worry about the performance if I can do it14:34
pablohnif it supports it14:34
pablohnthat*14:34
Sam-I-Amvt-d is probably not as important14:34
pablohnok Sam-I-Am , thank you very much14:35
pablohnoh wait, and what about other virtualization technologies?14:35
pablohndo you have any idea?14:35
Sam-I-Amlike what?14:35
pablohnXEN14:35
Sam-I-Ami dont know much about xen14:35
Sam-I-Amhowever, it should work with vt-x on your laptop14:36
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pablohnok, the most important thing is the VT-X14:36
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pablohnis not it?14:36
Sam-I-Amyes... and an modern version that allows nested VMs14:36
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pablohnlike this one? http://ark.intel.com/es/products/75119/Intel-Core-i7-4702MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz14:37
pablohnhttp://ark.intel.com/products/75119/Intel-Core-i7-4702MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz14:38
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Sam-I-Ami think its particularly vt-x with ept, which is supported on that cpu14:39
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Sam-I-Amon amd i think ept is called rvi14:39
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pablohnthanks again Sam-I-Am14:41
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richardkieneSam-I-Am: So it turns out that GRO being on was a big problem, but not the root of the intermittent connectivity issue that slowly degrades to no connectivity. After things running over night and working on it a bit this morning, the connectivity issue has come back, but transfer speeds are still good when the issue isn't going on15:37
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richardkienenm I think I was just experiencing external latency between me and the openstack deployment. All indications are that turning off GRO solved the issue17:02
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