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richardkiene | Hola, we're currently working with a fresh install of Havana. We started experiencing intermittent network connectivity via Floating IPs, and shortly thereafter even the private default gateway was not reachable from VMs. | 00:17 |
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richardkiene | All the health stats for neutron look good, and we didn't change anything related to networking on the host machines themselves | 00:18 |
richardkiene | we're using Neutron with GRE tunnels | 00:18 |
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richardkiene | Curious to see if anyone else has encountered this issue, or if there are some helpful troubleshooting tips I can be pointed at? | 00:19 |
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rkeene | Is there a man page for nova.conf somewhere ? | 00:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | richardkiene: do you know where the packets are stopping? | 00:25 |
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richardkiene | looks like iptables was the culprit | 00:26 |
richardkiene | so at the host level | 00:26 |
Sam-I-Am | on the compute node? | 00:26 |
richardkiene | controller | 00:26 |
Sam-I-Am | what is neutron doing on your controller? | 00:27 |
richardkiene | we used mirantis Fuel to deploy, it places it on the controller(s) | 00:28 |
Sam-I-Am | ahh | 00:28 |
Sam-I-Am | so its basically your network node | 00:28 |
richardkiene | yeah | 00:28 |
richardkiene | the iptable issue was probably incorrect all along, but why it ever worked we're trying to figure out :) | 00:29 |
Sam-I-Am | what was that issue? | 00:29 |
richardkiene | well... we're not sure yet, we just turned iptables off at this point | 00:31 |
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richardkiene | hopefully we'll find something in logs | 00:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | wait... all the way off? | 00:33 |
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richardkiene | yeah :( just temporarily | 00:35 |
richardkiene | just a diagnostic step :D | 00:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | did the box have any default firewall enabled? | 00:37 |
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richardkiene | just iptables I believe | 00:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | at least on my configs, iptables doesn't do much on the controller/network node | 00:39 |
Sam-I-Am | most of the tenant/vm rules are applied on the compute node | 00:39 |
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richardkiene | we've got 42 rules on our controllers | 00:40 |
Sam-I-Am | what are they? | 00:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | and so traffic to the floatingip (connected to the controller) got stuck at the controller and didn't propagate to the compute node? | 00:41 |
richardkiene | seems that way | 00:43 |
richardkiene | I can paste the rules in if you'd like | 00:43 |
richardkiene | just re-enabled iptables to list the rules, and we can reach the VMs and the VMs can reach their gateway now | 00:43 |
Sam-I-Am | thats kind of strange | 00:44 |
Sam-I-Am | so... no particular rule was causing the problem? | 00:44 |
richardkiene | http://paste.openstack.org/show/61483/ | 00:44 |
richardkiene | not quite sure at this point | 00:45 |
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richardkiene | going to check the logs now because the issue is happening again now that iptables is enabled | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | ok | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | i see that the firewall there is providing host-level firewalling for all of the daemons | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | it would be interesting to ping the floatingip and do a count on rule hits to see what rule is getting hit | 00:47 |
richardkiene | I'm questioning if it is actually logging... | 00:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | which piece? | 00:50 |
richardkiene | iptables | 00:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | iptables itself usually doesnt log, but you can count rule hits with -v | 00:52 |
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richardkiene | hem for some reason I thought it logged to kern.log, I'll start checking hits | 00:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | the VMs also can't see 'out' at this point? | 00:54 |
richardkiene | ultimately that is what happens yeah | 00:55 |
richardkiene | let me see if it has gotten that bad | 00:55 |
richardkiene | it is a slow degradation of service until it all just falls over | 00:55 |
richardkiene | they can still see out at this point | 00:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats unusual | 00:57 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm not familiar with the fuel config, but do the compute nodes use a separate interface/network for 'tunnel' traffic terminating at the controller node? | 00:57 |
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richardkiene | http://paste.openstack.org/show/61484/ | 00:58 |
richardkiene | that is about 30sec after resetting counters | 00:59 |
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richardkiene | the drop statement isn't incrementing, so that seems weird | 01:00 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah its not | 01:01 |
Sam-I-Am | i was just about to say that | 01:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | when this is broken, can you ping the virtual router's gw address? | 01:01 |
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richardkiene | nope | 01:01 |
Sam-I-Am | er, the outside one | 01:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | have you used the neutron commands before? | 01:02 |
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richardkiene | when it finally tips over you can get to the node via the web console, and it can't ping anything | 01:03 |
richardkiene | yeah we've run been running the neutron list command a bit | 01:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | what distro is this on? | 01:04 |
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richardkiene | centos | 01:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | how new is this installation? | 01:09 |
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richardkiene | finished it last night | 01:12 |
Sam-I-Am | what kernel is it running? | 01:13 |
richardkiene | new hardware, new NICs, new switches, cables, etc. | 01:13 |
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richardkiene | 2.6.32-358.123.3.openstack.el6.x86_64 | 01:13 |
Sam-I-Am | its weird that it works and slowly degrades. do you see packets start randomly disappearing? | 01:14 |
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richardkiene | well I haven't looked at packet loss on the VMs themselves while it is degrading | 01:14 |
richardkiene | I know that my SSH sessions via floating IPs were getting stalled and sometimes completely disconnected | 01:14 |
richardkiene | so I assume there was lots of packet loss | 01:15 |
richardkiene | the linux VMs we're running have TONS of DHCP chatter in syslog, which seems weird | 01:15 |
Sam-I-Am | define tons | 01:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | and how much throughput are you seeing on all of the interfaces? | 01:15 |
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richardkiene | well now I'm not seeing as much, but I was seeing multiple DHCP lines in the log per second | 01:17 |
richardkiene | now it looks like a few per minute | 01:17 |
Sam-I-Am | and things are working? | 01:17 |
richardkiene | at the moment, yeah | 01:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | what were the dhcp log entries? | 01:19 |
Sam-I-Am | and how many VMs do you have | 01:19 |
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richardkiene | 10 VMs so far | 01:19 |
richardkiene | looks like I'm only getting 70KB/s from a cloud front download doing a wget | 01:20 |
richardkiene | from an Ubuntu VM | 01:20 |
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richardkiene | I have a dedicated 100Mbps pipe at the datacenter for this, and from a physical machine through the same switch I'm able to get much better download speeds | 01:21 |
Sam-I-Am | is this using neutron with GRE? | 01:21 |
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richardkiene | correct | 01:22 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure what tweaks fuel does, but theres a few settings which improve performance in certain environments | 01:22 |
richardkiene | http://paste.openstack.org/show/61486/ | 01:22 |
richardkiene | that is the DHCP info in syslog | 01:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | those are low lease times | 01:23 |
richardkiene | yeah that is what I was thinking | 01:23 |
Sam-I-Am | but normal traffic for that time | 01:23 |
datamatic | ho ho ho | 01:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm wondering if there's some sort of broadcast/udp storm or something going on | 01:24 |
Sam-I-Am | basically something that's killing a kernel somewhere | 01:24 |
Sam-I-Am | i'd be curious about load averages when its broken | 01:24 |
Sam-I-Am | datamatic: hi | 01:24 |
richardkiene | Broadcast storm could be possible | 01:25 |
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datamatic | hey richardkiene, the plethora of lease renewals is fine. | 01:25 |
richardkiene | we did make a rather large subnet for the floating and private IP ranges | 01:25 |
datamatic | is that's what the concern is. I didnt read till way back | 01:26 |
richardkiene | we lazily made a /16 subnet | 01:26 |
datamatic | although that would throttle wour quantum-server | 01:26 |
datamatic | your* | 01:26 |
richardkiene | datamatic: the lease time was just something I was curious about | 01:26 |
richardkiene | the weird thing is that we turned iptables off and suddenly we could reach our VMs again | 01:27 |
richardkiene | we've turned it back on and now we're having slow degradation of service | 01:27 |
Sam-I-Am | datamatic: this is iptables on the combo controller/network node | 01:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.html | 01:28 |
Sam-I-Am | ^^ see note in ste 5 | 01:28 |
Sam-I-Am | step | 01:28 |
Sam-I-Am | about GRO | 01:28 |
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richardkiene | gonna have to go digging to figure out where that is set... | 01:30 |
Sam-I-Am | ethtool iirc | 01:30 |
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richardkiene | I supposed I'd want to do that on each of the controllers | 01:32 |
Sam-I-Am | iirc, its particularly of interest on the underlying interface for br-ex | 01:33 |
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richardkiene | I see that one... | 01:33 |
richardkiene | looks like to persist GRO being off it would be in /etc/rc.local | 01:34 |
richardkiene | checking.. | 01:34 |
richardkiene | nm there is a more specific interface file, and it is not configured off | 01:35 |
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richardkiene_ | I assume I would want GRO off on every int-br-ex? | 01:44 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:45 |
Sam-I-Am | any place traffic wanders to the internet methinks | 01:45 |
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richardkiene_ | well I've ran "ethtool -K int-br-ex gro off" on each of the controllers | 01:49 |
richardkiene_ | wget seems not so hot still | 01:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | could also be MTU issues | 01:50 |
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richardkiene_ | e.g. the default ~1500 might be fragmenting traffic? | 01:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:52 |
Sam-I-Am | somewhere around here is a doc for tweaking neutron with gre | 01:52 |
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decci | I am facing this issue while setting up Compute node through packstack and RDO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771580/ | 01:55 |
decci | ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 10.94.214.181_prescript.pp Notice: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel | 01:55 |
decci | I have EPEL repo enabled. ls epel-openstack-havana.repo epel-testing.repo rdo-release.repo epel.repo foreman.repo rhel-base.repo epel.repo.rpmnew puppetlabs.repo.backup rhel-source.repo | 01:55 |
decci | Seems like epel-release is not installed | 01:58 |
richardkiene_ | Sam-I-Am: That was it! | 01:58 |
richardkiene_ | I had to turn it off on the actual interface that br-ex represents | 01:58 |
Sam-I-Am | richardkiene_: what was it? | 01:58 |
richardkiene_ | so in my case eth4 | 01:58 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, its the underlying interface | 01:59 |
richardkiene_ | sounds like a bug in fuel I'll have to report :) thank you very much for your help | 02:00 |
Sam-I-Am | sure... did this resolve the issue of things dying? | 02:00 |
Sam-I-Am | or just the slow xfer rates | 02:00 |
decci | I installed epel-release and have restarted the packstack for compute node | 02:01 |
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richardkiene_ | I believe so | 02:02 |
richardkiene_ | my download from cloud front went form 60KB/s to 10.2MB/s | 02:02 |
richardkiene_ | and apt-get update no longer takes 30minutes | 02:02 |
Sam-I-Am | richardkiene_: cool. i would recommend filing a bug that maybe neutron-gre installs should disable GRO by default (or ask) | 02:03 |
richardkiene_ | definitely | 02:03 |
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decci | I tried installing epel-release but the same error | 02:06 |
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decci | What repository is need for setting up packstack | 02:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | decci: is this RHEL or something like centos/scientific? | 02:29 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: RHEL | 02:29 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: RHEL 6.4 | 02:29 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: I have these repos: epel-havana-openstack.repo puppetlabs.repo rhel-base.repo foreman.repo rdo-release.repo rhel-source.repo | 02:30 |
Sam-I-Am | can you use centos or scientific linux 6.5 instead? | 02:30 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: I am bound to use RHEL | 02:30 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: I have controller node ready | 02:30 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: While setting up compute node, I am facing this issue | 02:31 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: My Controller node had repos: ls epel-openstack-havana.repo foreman.repo rhel-base.repo epel.repo puppetlabs.repo.backup rhel-source.repo epel.repo.rpmnew rdo-release.repo epel-testing.repo remi.repo.backup | 02:31 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I tried packstack --allinone on controller node and it did setup openstack successfully but while doing it for compute node, it is throwing errors related to epel | 02:33 |
Sam-I-Am | i have not used rhel | 02:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | so i dont know exactly how to fix its repo issues | 02:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/comment/2121 | 02:34 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I dont have access to https://access.redhat.com/site/solutions/70019 | 02:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | do you have support with rhel? | 02:37 |
Sam-I-Am | otherwise there's no reason to use rhel | 02:37 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I have internal RHN Satellite server | 02:38 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: which is insync with redhat | 02:38 |
Sam-I-Am | ok... have you tried asking in #rdo? | 02:39 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Tell me one thing - I am planning to setup a controller node and 2 compute node with Nova and Ceilometer agent. I have controller node ready. All I want to setup is Compute Node. Can I do it without puppet | 02:39 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Though I know I am facing difficulty..but is there anything I do cloning the VM | 02:40 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: and making it up without actually running packstack | 02:40 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont think you can clone the VM | 02:41 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Can I clone ControlerVM , create 2 VMs and make changes to answerfile and setup compute nodes | 02:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont think so | 02:41 |
Sam-I-Am | you can try, but i dont know what it would do | 02:42 |
Sam-I-Am | alternatively, you could try using mirantis 'fuel' | 02:42 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: All I need is 1 Controller and 2 Compute Node ready with Ceilo and Nova Compute | 02:42 |
Sam-I-Am | or installing manually using the openstack install guide | 02:42 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Whats that | 02:42 |
Sam-I-Am | its another distribution similar to packstack | 02:42 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: As I have controller node ready, I was just thinking how to make compute node out of it | 02:43 |
Sam-I-Am | they have two different configurations | 02:44 |
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decci | Can anyone help me with ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 10.94.214.180_prescript.pp Notice: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. Please verify its path and try again | 02:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | try a 'yum update' | 02:53 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Tried it multiple times but no fix | 02:54 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you add epel with this command? | 02:56 |
Sam-I-Am | rpm -Uvh http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/i386/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm | 02:56 |
Sam-I-Am | i think x86_64 is also an option | 02:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | wget http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm | 02:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | another option (for 64-bit) | 02:59 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: package epel-release-6-8.noarch is already installed | 03:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | ls -1 /etc/yum.repos.d/epel* | 03:03 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: ls -1 /etc/yum.repos.d/epel* /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-openstack-havana.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo.rpmnew /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-testing.repo /etc/yum.repos.d/epel-testing.repo.rpmnew | 03:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | so it seems to be there | 03:07 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Yeah | 03:08 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: I dont understand what the above error is all about | 03:08 |
Sam-I-Am | can you install a package from epel? | 03:08 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: where | 03:08 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont know, your machine may be hosed from fixing other stuff | 03:08 |
Sam-I-Am | try a fresh install and then install the epel rpm | 03:08 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: You mean from EPEL repository | 03:08 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:08 |
Sam-I-Am | see if you can install something from it | 03:08 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Wait..I will revert back Vm to fresh install | 03:09 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Done.Let me show you what repo it has and what step are done till now | 03:10 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I have just 2 repos : ls rhel-base.repo rhel-source.repo | 03:11 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: I just have now rhel-source.repo | 03:12 |
Sam-I-Am | ok, now add that epel rpm | 03:12 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: link? | 03:12 |
decci | wget http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/epel-release-6-8.noarch.rpm? | 03:13 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:13 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I dont have rdo-release RPM installed ..FYI | 03:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | you'll need that too | 03:14 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Before this..or after this step | 03:15 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Shall I install RDO first | 03:15 |
Sam-I-Am | after | 03:15 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: okay | 03:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | you also need the 'optional channel' enabled | 03:16 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771880/ | 03:16 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Done | 03:16 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: Next? | 03:16 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Shall I install RDO | 03:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | the rdo repo, yes | 03:17 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Or optional package first or RDO? | 03:17 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: How to enable optional repo | 03:17 |
Sam-I-Am | https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/OpenShift_Enterprise/1/html/Client_Tools_Installation_Guide/Installing_Using_the_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_Optional_Channel.html | 03:17 |
Sam-I-Am | redhat is frustrating | 03:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont have to do any of this on centos/scientific | 03:18 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I wonder how shall I use local RHN Satellite for this | 03:19 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: Cant I get rubygems through yum | 03:19 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont know... i'm not a redhat guy | 03:19 |
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decci | Sam-I-Am: I wonder how it went through for Controller | 03:20 |
decci | Sam-I-Am: I dint face issue while running packstack --allinone | 03:21 |
Sam-I-Am | just remember to 'yum upgrade' and reboot before running packstack | 03:21 |
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vks | hi all | 07:03 |
vks | which component in openstack create qvoXXXXX, qbrXXXX and qvbXXXX and attach instance to these ???? | 07:03 |
vks | ???? | 07:08 |
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lifeless | vks: neutron, more or less | 07:10 |
lifeless | I don't remember if the ovs agent does it or if the nova neutron vif plug module does it from within nova-compute | 07:11 |
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sputnik13 | possibly a dangerous question but I'm going to ask anyway... ceph vs gluster? :) | 09:07 |
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mayur | hi I have one query recommended hardware is 16GB & 32GB with two machine with at least dual core processor | 10:06 |
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mayur | but I am having Pentium Processor(VT enabled) & with 3 or 4 GB RAM on each would it be feasible for Openstack installation? | 10:08 |
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mayur | Please guide...!! | 10:08 |
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mayur | any suggestions ? | 10:09 |
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mayur | please help.. I am stuck at installation | 10:23 |
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vks | lifeless: nova driver create the qvbXXXXX, qvoXXXXX, qbrXXXXXXX | 10:33 |
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mayur | hi I have one query recommended hardware is 16GB & 32GB with two machine with at least dual core processor | 11:21 |
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cppking | hello guys . i'm setting up openstack nova service ,,when create the nova endpoiont , i used this "--publicurl=http://controller:8774/v2/%\(tenant_id\)s" Is this argument right? | 12:49 |
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decci | Hi | 13:34 |
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decci | I am getting this error on recently updated RHEL 6.5 machine:Notice: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. Please verify its path and try again Error: yum update -y kernel iputils iproute returned 1 instead of one of [0] Error: /Stage[main]/Packstack::Netns/Exec[netns_dependecy_install]/returns: change from notrun to 0 failed | 13:35 |
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decci | How to fix this? I am trying to setup compute node through packstack. the Controller node is ready and working | 13:35 |
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pablohn | I have to buy a new laptop, and I would like to play with openstack | 14:28 |
pablohn | since it uses KVM, how important is to get a CPU with VT-D? | 14:28 |
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pablohn | I think VT-D is very important, but what about VT-D? | 14:29 |
pablohn | VT-X is very important* | 14:30 |
hackoo | How to find the release of the OpenStack, I can see a way to do "nova-manage version" | 14:31 |
hackoo | Is this the most suitable way to check OpenStack release name ? | 14:32 |
Sam-I-Am | pablohn: its beneficial to be able to use nested vm acceleration | 14:32 |
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pablohn | acceleration? | 14:32 |
Sam-I-Am | pablohn: it'll still work without it, but VMs wont perform well | 14:32 |
pablohn | just acceleration? | 14:32 |
pablohn | it is just for test, obviously nothing in production | 14:32 |
pablohn | would you recommend me not mind about the CPU VT-D support? | 14:33 |
Sam-I-Am | if the cpu can't do nested VMs, you'll use qemu instead of kvm | 14:33 |
pablohn | but you mean support or accelerate | 14:33 |
pablohn | ? | 14:34 |
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pablohn | I mean, I do not worry about the performance if I can do it | 14:34 |
pablohn | if it supports it | 14:34 |
pablohn | that* | 14:34 |
Sam-I-Am | vt-d is probably not as important | 14:34 |
pablohn | ok Sam-I-Am , thank you very much | 14:35 |
pablohn | oh wait, and what about other virtualization technologies? | 14:35 |
pablohn | do you have any idea? | 14:35 |
Sam-I-Am | like what? | 14:35 |
pablohn | XEN | 14:35 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont know much about xen | 14:35 |
Sam-I-Am | however, it should work with vt-x on your laptop | 14:36 |
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pablohn | ok, the most important thing is the VT-X | 14:36 |
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pablohn | is not it? | 14:36 |
Sam-I-Am | yes... and an modern version that allows nested VMs | 14:36 |
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pablohn | like this one? http://ark.intel.com/es/products/75119/Intel-Core-i7-4702MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz | 14:37 |
pablohn | http://ark.intel.com/products/75119/Intel-Core-i7-4702MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz | 14:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think its particularly vt-x with ept, which is supported on that cpu | 14:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | on amd i think ept is called rvi | 14:39 |
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pablohn | thanks again Sam-I-Am | 14:41 |
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richardkiene | Sam-I-Am: So it turns out that GRO being on was a big problem, but not the root of the intermittent connectivity issue that slowly degrades to no connectivity. After things running over night and working on it a bit this morning, the connectivity issue has come back, but transfer speeds are still good when the issue isn't going on | 15:37 |
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richardkiene | nm I think I was just experiencing external latency between me and the openstack deployment. All indications are that turning off GRO solved the issue | 17:02 |
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