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| teju | cloudcard = tables.Column("card_name",verbose_name=_("CloudCard"),link="horizon:admin:emulexdmf:cloud", display_choices=(('IP1'),)) ....i get too many values to unpack error with this line....any help?? | 04:39 |
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| teju | hi all.. please help me with display_choices attribute in a column of a table | 05:08 |
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| teju | hi all...how to get host IP address using volume object? | 09:12 |
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| teju | the volume object has a variable os-vol-host-attr:host...how to use this to print hostname? | 09:14 |
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| BobBall | cihhan: it works great :) | 09:16 |
| BobBall | cihhan: but I'd suggest XenServer 6.2 as that's fully open source and the upgrade path from XCP. | 09:16 |
| cihhan | BobBall, I have tried but I was getting error messages when I was launching instances | 09:17 |
| BobBall | What error message? | 09:17 |
| cihhan | BobBall: can you give some information on how to install? | 09:17 |
| cihhan | it just says error when i do nova list | 09:17 |
| teju | BobBall,cihhan : how to get host IP address using volume object? | 09:17 |
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| cihhan | but I could not find any information on the error even in /var/log | 09:17 |
| BobBall | Sure! http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/introduction-to-xen.html | 09:17 |
| BobBall | Are you using devstack cihhan ? | 09:18 |
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| BobBall | If so, you might have logs in /tmp/devstack/log | 09:18 |
| cihhan | teju, I havent used volume object, so Im not very familiar | 09:18 |
| BobBall | if not, then something else should be logging it somewhere - but I don't know where | 09:18 |
| cihhan | BobBall: No I am installing step by step | 09:18 |
| BobBall | it depends on the packaging you're using | 09:18 |
| cihhan | on Ubuntu 12.04 | 09:18 |
| cihhan | server | 09:18 |
| teju | cihann: the volume object has a variable os-vol-host-attr:host...how to use this to print hostname? | 09:19 |
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| BobBall | cihhan: I'm not sure where Ubuntu 12.04 packages log too | 09:20 |
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| BobBall | but there should be an output of the nova log giving the details of the error | 09:20 |
| cihhan | they r under /var/log/nova/nova-compute | 09:20 |
| cihhan | but nothing is written about the error | 09:20 |
| BobBall | the most common mistake is not installing the XenAPI plugins | 09:20 |
| BobBall | no lines saying "Error" anywhere? | 09:20 |
| cihhan | in fact after some changes i got another error saying econnrefused -- i couldnt check very detailed it yet | 09:20 |
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| cihhan | i believe that it s due XCP | 09:21 |
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| cihhan | teju, unfortunately, i m not familiar with it :( sorry i cant help much | 09:21 |
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| cihhan | BobBall, so did you use DevStack? | 09:22 |
| teju | ok..np | 09:22 |
| BobBall | cihhan: upload nova.conf, log file, "nova show <vm>" etc to paste.openstack.org | 09:22 |
| BobBall | then I might be able to help debug :) | 09:22 |
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| BobBall | I primarily use devstack - but that's cuz I'm a developer! | 09:22 |
| cihhan | hehehe, that s nice :) | 09:22 |
| cihhan | BobBall, OK I will do this tomorrow -- it s 2 AM here now :) | 09:23 |
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| BobBall | ok, no problem | 09:24 |
| BobBall | sorry bout the timezone - most of the XenAPI developers are in europe! | 09:24 |
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| cihhan | BobBall, I understand. Thanks a lot though :) | 09:25 |
| cihhan | I will check DevStack too | 09:25 |
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| BobBall | Before installing a new stack, let's try and debug what's going on with the current setup | 09:25 |
| BobBall | it should be very close indeed! | 09:26 |
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| BobBall | Check out the http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/introduction-to-xen.html page and make sure you've done what it says - or equivalent | 09:26 |
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| cihhan | BobBall, if you are available then I have a couple of questions regarding to this page. | 09:27 |
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| BobBall | ask away | 09:28 |
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| cihhan | Im using XCP | 09:28 |
| cihhan | So I should put compute_driver=xenapi.XenAPIDriver .... to my nova.conf | 09:28 |
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| BobBall | yes | 09:29 |
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| cihhan | then what about libvirt_type? | 09:29 |
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| cihhan | and also these information are normally in nova-compute.conf file afaik | 09:29 |
| BobBall | ignore libvirt_type | 09:29 |
| BobBall | we don't use libvirt | 09:29 |
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| cihhan | what about nova-compute.conf? | 09:30 |
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| BobBall | that's probably what ubuntu calls nova.conf | 09:30 |
| BobBall | it's nova.conf in devstack | 09:30 |
| BobBall | but yes, put those details in nova-compute.conf | 09:30 |
| cihhan | afaik there is one file called nova.conf and another file nova-compute.conf | 09:31 |
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| cihhan | initially nova-compute has compute_driver and libvirt_type afaik | 09:31 |
| BobBall | I believe they should probably be in nova-compute.conf then | 09:31 |
| BobBall | if that's where the compute_driver is located, that's where the other options should be too. | 09:31 |
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| cihhan | then i should also use raw image for the instances, right? | 09:32 |
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| cihhan | and I havent understood 'Xen Boot from ISO' section | 09:32 |
| BobBall | raw or VHD or AMI | 09:33 |
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| cihhan | instead of that can't we just use raw images? | 09:33 |
| BobBall | yes | 09:33 |
| BobBall | raw works fine | 09:33 |
| cihhan | ok | 09:33 |
| BobBall | The boot from iso is only if you want to have the VMs installing the OS themselves | 09:33 |
| cihhan | ooh i see | 09:33 |
| cihhan | and instead of nova-compute-kvm we need nova-compute-xcp | 09:34 |
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| cihhan | and these should be the only differences i believe | 09:34 |
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| anand | Hi all, my openstack all-in-one server is running out of space. How can I clear some space. I didn't understand how instance storage is done in /var/lib/nova/instance directory. | 09:34 |
| BobBall | I'm not sure what the difference in the packages provided by Ubuntu are tbh | 09:35 |
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| cihhan | But in terms of configuration, are these all the steps I need to follow? | 09:36 |
| BobBall | I believe so, yes. | 09:38 |
| BobBall | If there are missing steps, please let me know and we'll try and update the docs. | 09:38 |
| cihhan | Thank you very much | 09:38 |
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| cihhan | One more question: Can I change Cirros .img file to raw using qemu-image convert command and use it? Or is there anything else I need to do? | 09:39 |
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| BobBall | yes, you should be able to do that | 09:40 |
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| mayur | hi is there any iso so that I can download it & install like OS which will autoconfigure openstack cloud components? | 10:39 |
| mayur | p.s. I am newbie to openstack :) | 10:39 |
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| Drankis | mayur, I don't think so. Is instalation from packages http://devstack.org/ | 10:40 |
| mayur | Ya. I read about devstack.org but would it install all cloud components that are currently exists in openstack ... | 10:41 |
| mayur | ?? | 10:41 |
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| Drankis | mayur, yeah, i think so. I didn't use devstack, I installed my envirionment from separate openstack packages. | 10:46 |
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| mayur | could you please redirect me towards the procedure or link of Full Openstack cloud install ? | 10:46 |
| mayur | It will be a great help to me? | 10:47 |
| mayur | !! | 10:47 |
| openstack | mayur: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 10:47 |
| mayur | It is string mismatch in puntuation ... ;) | 10:47 |
| mayur | punctuation | 10:48 |
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| mayur | hi drankis, could you please guide on this? | 10:50 |
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| Drankis | mayur, http://docs.openstack.org/ chouse your distribution and start to create your cloud! :) | 10:51 |
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| mayur | thanks... !! | 10:52 |
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| darky^ | Is there a recommended version for ceph and openstack? dumpling or cuttlefish or can I go with the newest emperor? | 11:08 |
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| TVR_ | I have an issue with my compute node starting instances... I am posative it is neutron related... who here has a multi-node openstack cluster using neutron up? | 12:59 |
| TVR_ | havana release | 12:59 |
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| bereal | hi! what are the ways to provide disaster recovery for Swift? | 13:51 |
| bereal | suppose, some objects will be removed because of an error in the logic. | 13:51 |
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| larsks | bereal: I think that's more of an application question -- if this is a facility you need, mark objects as deleted somehow without actually removing them. You can periodically flush "expired" objects older than a certain age while keeping more recent things around in case you need to "undo" an accidental delete. | 14:03 |
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| bereal | larsks: is there a way to switch the "delete" operation alltogether? | 14:04 |
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| larsks | bereal: I'm not sure. | 14:05 |
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| larsks | bereal: Since Swift is just using standard HTTP verbs like "DELETE" you could put a proxy in front of it that prohibits DELETE requests. There may be a way to do it in swift itself but you'd have to ask someone more familiar with swift. | 14:07 |
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| bereal | I have to develop a "disaster recovery" plan and arguments that swift is replicated and distributed don't work. | 14:09 |
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| bereal | I wonder if looking for another job works better. | 14:10 |
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| wayneeseguin | bereal: I would approach it two ways, a) offsite backup of the swift DB values and b) get at the underlying filesystem and sync it offsite and/or snapshot it. | 14:11 |
| wayneeseguin | eg. the filesystem that swift stores to | 14:11 |
| wayneeseguin | That way you can rebuild in a crisis | 14:12 |
| wayneeseguin | (I didn't say it would be painless) | 14:12 |
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| bereal | wayneeseguin: wouldn't that need to stop the cluster for the time of backup? | 14:12 |
| wayneeseguin | Depends on a) what database and b) what fs | 14:12 |
| wayneeseguin | We swap out m* for PostgreSQL so backups don't cause disruption | 14:13 |
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| wayneeseguin | For FS, if you are running btrfs for the volume for example snappshotting is possible without interrupting the runnign system | 14:13 |
| bereal | do you mean, db for accounts and containers? | 14:13 |
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| wayneeseguin | Both do require modifying openstack default getup :) | 14:14 |
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| wayneeseguin | Well I'm specifically talking about the swift store where it keeps the maping of entities to swift objects | 14:14 |
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| wayneeseguin | However if you're really doing DR I'd be grabbing all databases | 14:14 |
| bereal | Ok, so btr allows for the atomic snapshots? | 14:15 |
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| wayneeseguin | yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#Subvolumes_and_snapshots / | 14:16 |
| wayneeseguin | lots of resources for that here https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page | 14:16 |
| wayneeseguin | Again that is the paranoid sysadmin side of the fence | 14:17 |
| bereal | wayneeseguin: greato, thanks! Will try that out. | 14:17 |
| wayneeseguin | The new alterative would be to creat an offsite running copy sync spot and sync all bits over to it both DB (replication) and blob store | 14:17 |
| wayneeseguin | I haven't investigated that however | 14:18 |
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| wayneeseguin | No reason it wouldn't work. The details might be interesting | 14:18 |
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| bereal | Is there some official tool for that? I could find only swiftsync, but does not look too trustworthy. | 14:18 |
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| wayneeseguin | Great question... anteaya who would know the answer to that? | 14:18 |
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| anteaya | what am I answering? | 14:19 |
| wayneeseguin | 42! | 14:19 |
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| wayneeseguin | Is there an official tool for syncing a swift installation to another site. | 14:20 |
| bereal | anteaya: for the backup/recovery purposes | 14:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | bereal: have you looked at swiftstack? | 14:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they might have something brewing | 14:20 |
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| bereal | Sam-I-Am: not yet | 14:21 |
| anteaya | they concept of back up swift is the confusing part for me | 14:21 |
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| anteaya | swift is designed to be redundant, that is rather the point | 14:21 |
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| bereal | that's what I said. but | 14:21 |
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| anteaya | a tool for syncing swift? I do believe the tool is swift itself | 14:22 |
| bereal | suppose, someone screws out data, a user or an app. | 14:22 |
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| bereal | and the change is replicated | 14:22 |
| anteaya | swift is build with that in mind | 14:22 |
| bereal | ok, how to recover to a certain point? | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | bereal: i think devels are realizing that we all still fight battles with old-school mentalities | 14:22 |
| anteaya | ah okay, now I think I understand | 14:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bereal: just like trying to get management to bless openstack can be extremely difficult | 14:23 |
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| anteaya | bereal: does this documentation help at all? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_object_versioning.html | 14:25 |
| bereal | anteaya: 'A DELETE to a versioned object will only remove the current version of the object.' -- by 'remove', does it mean totally removing, or just making unavailable? | 14:26 |
| anteaya | we have exeeded by capacity to be of assistance | 14:27 |
| anteaya | I'm not actually a swift dev or user | 14:27 |
| anteaya | do you have the ability to spin up a test cluster and hit it with bad data to evaluate the DELETE? | 14:28 |
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| bereal | will try... I personally don't think that's all a good idea, but a customer is a bit paranoid. | 14:28 |
| bereal | have to please them. | 14:28 |
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| bereal | thanks! | 14:29 |
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| eth00 | i know that there are a lot of downsides to it but does openstack support local storage on the hypervisors? I have looked at the docs and have not seen anything that clearly states that it is, only a few forum posts that sounds like it may | 14:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | eth00: by default i think thats where it puts virtual disks | 14:30 |
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| eth00 | Sam-I-Am, great thats what i was hoping to hear :) any idea if you can pick where it goes? The idea being if you have multiple storage devices on a single server and want to split how its provisioned | 14:32 |
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| larsks | eth00: You can absolutely set the locations nova and glance use for storing things. | 14:33 |
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| eth00 | thanks for confirming larsks | 14:34 |
| larsks | eth00: Note that nova and glance aren't the only consumers of storage, but they're probably the first you'll interact with. | 14:34 |
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| eth00 | larsks, noted, it looks like those will be the two most important initially | 14:35 |
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| anteaya | bereal: I understand, I hope you get what you need and enough to make your customer happy | 14:37 |
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| notmyname | bereal: still around? | 15:02 |
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| bereal | notmyname: yup | 15:02 |
| notmyname | bereal: I can help answer your questions about swift | 15:02 |
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| bereal | notmyname: I need to figure out a disaster recovery plan in case of an erroneus or malicious usage of the cluster. | 15:03 |
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| bereal | backup or whatnot | 15:04 |
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| bereal | so, the high-level options so far are: 1) backup on the fs/db level 2) sync with another cluster 3) some kind of versioning | 15:05 |
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| notmyname | bereal: swift supports versioned writes (for 3). swift supports global clusters and has a cluster-to-cluster sync (for 2). and swift keeps all data durably replicated (for 1) | 15:06 |
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| notmyname | bereal: but that's just normal stuff. if you send a delete, swift will delete it | 15:07 |
| bereal | but for 1: if something goes wrong, the change will be replicated, right? | 15:07 |
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| bereal | and if I delete a versioned object, it's gone | 15:07 |
| notmyname | depends what you mean by "something" | 15:07 |
| notmyname | if you tell swift to delete an object, swift will delete that object | 15:07 |
| bereal | ok | 15:07 |
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| bereal | no way to recover? | 15:08 |
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| bereal | and, for cluster-to-cluster sync, that will propagate all the changes? | 15:09 |
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| notmyname | bereal: I know we're working on undeletes in swift for a couple of customers where I work, but that's ongoing work | 15:09 |
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| notmyname | bereal: yes, it propagates changes | 15:10 |
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| bereal | anyway, how to sync cluster-to-cluster apart from swiftsync? | 15:10 |
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| notmyname | bereal: global clusters might work for you. depends on what you're looking for | 15:12 |
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| bereal | an ability to recover the whole cluster to a certain point in time. | 15:12 |
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| bereal | or some chosen data. | 15:13 |
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| notmyname | bereal: swift doesn't support whole-cluster snapshots, if that's what you're looking for. it's an eventually consistent system, so a "snapshot" is a little hard to map onto swift anyway | 15:17 |
| bereal | notmyname: that's what I've been telling to my boss. Still, the customer is paranoid about their data and need some way to recovery anything in case of the malicious or accidental deletion. | 15:19 |
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| darky^ | Anyone experience with ceph? | 15:24 |
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| darky^ | Nodes are connected. Masternode can run "ceph-deploy osd create os01" and "ceph-deploy osd create 02" without issues but they ods are not going up. | 15:24 |
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| darky^ | ceph -s always tells me there are no osds and "pgs" are stuck. | 15:25 |
| darky^ | health HEALTH_ERR 192 pgs stuck inactive; 192 pgs stuck unclean; mds cluster is degraded; no osds; clock skew detected on mon.os02 | 15:25 |
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| jrwren | try #ceph? | 15:30 |
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| Drankis | BobBall, hello! Is your havana host aggregate bugfix merged in github? | 15:35 |
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| skipper | hello we wanna build iaas using openstack as a final year project for our college | 15:37 |
| skipper | what are the hardware requiremnts we need to build this | 15:37 |
| skipper | please guide me | 15:37 |
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| skipper | someone reply please | 15:39 |
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| darky^ | Depends on your needs, skipper. If it should be only a proof of concept I'm pretty sure cpu only need to have vm support. thats it. | 15:40 |
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| miguitas | skipper: tike this as reference http://docs.mirantis.com/fuel/fuel-4.0/install-guide.html?#summary | 15:42 |
| skipper | thank you.. is it possible to do load balancing by using 3-4 systems and creating instances of it | 15:43 |
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| BobBall | Drankis: No - it was rejected because apparently much of the object support has already been backported to Havana. I haven't had another opportunity to dig into exactly what would be needed to get the full object support (at least for aggregates) and to test it. | 15:53 |
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| Drankis | BobBall, ahh... ok. I by mistake deleted test vm with correct nova code on it... | 15:55 |
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| Drankis | and I don't remember I input that code in other node sources or not... :D | 15:56 |
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| BobBall | It's still up on gerrit | 15:56 |
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| BobBall | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61712/ | 15:56 |
| BobBall | I need to update it with the more approved version... but it's in my changes so I don't forget it :) | 15:56 |
| Drankis | :) | 15:57 |
| Drankis | Then looks like I got now other problem | 15:57 |
| Drankis | :D | 15:57 |
| Drankis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61712/ | 15:57 |
| Drankis | oups | 15:57 |
| Drankis | http://paste.openstack.org/show/61450/ | 15:57 |
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| sputnik13 | anyone have experience with nova scheduler? | 17:07 |
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| larsks | sputnik13: What's the question? | 17:09 |
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| sputnik13 | larsks: I'm using filter scheduler right now, I think... seems like if I want to be able to set different ram/cpu/disk allocation ratios based on availability zones or host aggregates I might have to write my own custom scheduler | 17:10 |
| sputnik13 | larsks: is that about right? | 17:10 |
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| sputnik13 | basically, we have a cloud for customers, where we need to ensure customers have reserved resources, but we want to use the same infrastructure for internal users who should not have reserved resources | 17:11 |
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| sputnik13 | trying to see whether we can do that without standing up a separate cloud infrastructure | 17:11 |
| larsks | Interesting. I'm not familiar enough with the scheduler to authoratively answer your question, sorry. | 17:12 |
| larsks | ...but implementing a scheduler doesn't seem too tricky. You may also want to post your question to ask.openstack.org just to see if it attracts any answers there. | 17:12 |
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| kfox1111 | Is there a way to get nova cli to sync ssh fingerprints to known_hosts? | 17:17 |
| sputnik13 | larsks: I'll consider that, thank you for the suggestion | 17:17 |
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| sputnik13 | kfox1111: are you talking about tenant VMs or the actual infrastructure hosts? | 17:18 |
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| kfox1111 | tenant vm's. | 17:18 |
| larsks | kfox1111: Nova isn't particularly aware of the ssh fingerprints of your virtual instances. If you were to manage host keys externally, you could pass host keys in via user_data *and* sync known hosts through some sort of process... | 17:19 |
| kfox1111 | its painful to go delete stuff from known hosts, and insecure to blindly accept the fingerprint, and very manual to go verify it. | 17:19 |
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| sputnik13 | kfox1111: are these your own vms or customer vms? | 17:19 |
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| sputnik13 | kfox1111: you could use something like puppet or chef to distribute ssh keys if you're trying to provide public key authentication to users of your own vms | 17:20 |
| larsks | kfox1111: wouldn't automating the process be largely the same as blindly accepting new keys? | 17:20 |
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| larsks | sputnik13: that's sort of what I was suggesting... | 17:21 |
| sputnik13 | larsks: yup, just beat you to the punch ;) | 17:21 |
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| larsks | (no, earlier, when I suggested managing the host keys externally) | 17:21 |
| sputnik13 | oh, i c | 17:21 |
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| kfox1111 | larsks: well, nova client has your credentials and could talk securely to nova to get a list of vm's/ip's and fingerprints. The client could then sync it to known_hosts. | 17:23 |
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| kfox1111 | I could use puppet or chef or something, but I've been seeing if I could avoid it since OpenStack itself seems to provide just about everything you need most of the time. | 17:24 |
| larsks | The only way it's going to get fingerprints is going to be by connecting to the ssh server on your instances... | 17:24 |
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| larsks | I'm not sure what that would get you that is different from just accepting fingerprints yourself. | 17:25 |
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| larsks | I guess if you wanted to get the host fingerprints out-of-band you could have your instance emit fingerprints on the serial console, and have something that would parse the output of "nova console-log" or something. | 17:27 |
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| kfox1111 | I can think of a few ways of doing it. the api could ssh and grab the fingerprint. so the man in the middle risk is only between the api host and vm, not all the way accross the internet. Another way would be for nova to generate the keys and pass them to the instance when creating. A third way would be the vm posts the fingerprint as metadata back to the api to make it available. | 17:27 |
| kfox1111 | oh, that would work too. :) | 17:27 |
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| larsks | kfox1111: Having nova generate the keys falls under the "manage keys externally" umbrella, although I think that is better left outside of nova. | 17:28 |
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| larsks | Your deployment tools can generate the hostkeys, pass them in to cloud-init, and you can query some authoritative source for ip/fingerprint mappings. | 17:28 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, probably so. Just brainstorming. | 17:28 |
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| larsks | Yeah, me too :). | 17:28 |
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| kfox1111 | still seems like something nova could provide in some fassion. It already helps you out by managing your ssh key stuff. Its the same thing, just back the other direction. | 17:29 |
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| larsks | kfox1111: Nova doesn't acutally manage your ssh stuff at all. That is, *you* have to provide it with the keys, and it just makes those available to the instance. Cloud-init -- or some other tools -- is actually repsonsible for doing something with those keys. | 17:30 |
| larsks | Generating your host keys externally would be a very similar process. | 17:30 |
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| kfox1111 | True. But it has support for making it much easier. Another example is windows password support. The windows vm generates an admin password, encrypts it with your ssh public key, and stores it back in nova. | 17:32 |
| larsks | Also, instead of trying to manage the known_hosts file, you could combine external key generation with something like monkeysphere (http://web.monkeysphere.info/) to make the keys "pre-trusted". | 17:32 |
| kfox1111 | Having it store a ssh fingerprint is probably the same amount of effort as that other use case. | 17:32 |
| sputnik13 | kfox1111: openstack provides these to help you with bootstrapping the VM | 17:32 |
| larsks | kfox1111: re: windows support, really? That's new since I last looked at Windows. Can you point me at that. | 17:32 |
| kfox1111 | but isn't getting the initial fingerprint part of bootstraping your new vm? :) | 17:32 |
| sputnik13 | kfox1111: openstack is not supposed to be a VM configuration management system | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | larsks: sure. give me a sec... | 17:33 |
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| sputnik13 | kfox1111: sure, but not updating it, pushing out new keys and deleting old keys | 17:33 |
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| larsks | (Last time I looked at windows was with openstack essex and I had to write my own version of cloud-init in powershell) | 17:33 |
| sputnik13 | kfox1111: you can have ostack run a script on the VM as a post-installation process as well, if you want multiple keys added maybe you can provide your own server that the vm can pull a file from | 17:34 |
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| kfox1111 | sputnik13: sure. again, that was one of several ideas on how to implement it. If you don't like that particular implementation, thats ok. | 17:34 |
| sputnik13 | I've never tried the post-install script but it's there | 17:34 |
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| kfox1111 | I think its: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/get-password | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | you can do "nova get-password instance-name /path/yourkey.pem" | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | and it will give you the password back. | 17:36 |
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| kfox1111 | A similar feature would be like nova get-ssh-fingerprint instance-name | 17:37 |
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| sputnik13 | what does retrieving the fingerprint accomplish | 17:38 |
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| kfox1111 | Preventing man in the middle attacks. | 17:39 |
| larsks | sputnik13: trusting that you're connecting to the host to which you think you're connecting. | 17:39 |
| kfox1111 | one great thing about the cloud is being able to create and destroy vm's so quick and easy. But it does make the ssh bootstrapping thing happen way more frequently then it was origionally designed for. | 17:40 |
| larsks | kfox1111: It looks like you could use this existing mechanism for handling ssh key fingerprints the way you want. Just post the host fingerprint as the password, and then nova get-password should retrieve it for you. | 17:40 |
| larsks | (Looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17274/) | 17:40 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm... yeah, it could be hacked to be used in this way. | 17:41 |
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| larsks | I don't even think it's much of a hack. This is a mechanism for communicating security credentials from inside an instance to the api, which is exactly what you've asked for. | 17:42 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, but what about if I want ssh on my windows instances? ;) | 17:43 |
| kfox1111 | can't use one field for two values. | 17:43 |
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| larsks | kfox1111: If that's an actual use case, I guess this won't work for you. | 17:46 |
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| kfox1111 | we're running windows instances in our cloud for software testing. we spawn a linux server instance and a windows client instance as a pair, then run automated tests between them, then tare it all down when the test is done. | 17:48 |
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| kfox1111 | openstack is awesome for testing. | 17:48 |
| larsks | kfox1111: For what it's worth, this seems to work fine. Cool. The "get-password" command itself tries to decrypt the password, but this is happening in the client, not the API, so you would just write your own code to retrieve it. | 17:48 |
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| larsks | So ssh into the windows box as admin and run "net user" :) | 17:49 |
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| kfox1111 | problem would be getting both the admin password and the fingerprint both. | 18:03 |
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| larsks | kfox1111: What I was actually suggesting, tongue in cheek, is that if you can ssh into your Windows host as admin using an ssh key then you get just *set* the admin password from the command line. | 18:04 |
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| kfox1111 | ah. I see what your saying. Yeah, that would work. | 18:05 |
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| kxx | hey | 18:48 |
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| kxx | hi all | 18:48 |
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| sputnik13 | glance doesn't have a concept of quotas does it? | 18:49 |
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| kxx | my compute node doesn't have any qvo, qbr and qvb. However it has tap interface which is on openvswitch integration bridge and everything is fine. Is this a prob. ? | 18:50 |
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| kxx | as a normal openstack architecture , it must have the qvo, qvb and qbr | 18:52 |
| larsks | sputnik13: there is (recently) support for simple quotas in glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37993/ | 18:52 |
| larsks | kxx: do you have instances running on it yet? | 18:53 |
| larsks | ...and are you using neutron networking? | 18:53 |
| kxx | yes | 18:53 |
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| kxx | and believe me i am able to do communication | 18:53 |
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| kxx | we have one controller which pushes flow to openvswitch | 18:54 |
| sputnik13 | larsks: thanks, I'm guessing this isn't fully integrated yet... I don't see any quota that I can modify via horizon with respect to glance | 18:54 |
| sputnik13 | except snapshot total | 18:55 |
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| larsks | sputnik13: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly where/if the support is client-visible. | 18:55 |
| larsks | kxx: I'm a little confused about your question. Do your instances have functional networking? | 18:55 |
| kxx | yes | 18:55 |
| kxx | even i am surprised | 18:56 |
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| larsks | kxx: What is core_plugin in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf? | 18:57 |
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| kxx | larsks: i can't remember exaclty. I am not at my workstation. | 18:58 |
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| kxx | larsks: the qvo, qbr, and qvb are created by nova only????? | 18:58 |
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| larsks | kxx: No, but they may be created only by the OVS neutron plugin. If you're using the linuxbridge plugin, I don't know what that looks like. | 18:59 |
| kxx | larsks :u mean quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent ???? | 19:00 |
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| _dist | Afternoon? everyone. I'm migrating all my VMs over to qemu-kvm, and I like libvirt. I've got my test lab running that way for half a year now. However, I'm looking for a good management interface. The plan (as in test) is to run gluster on top of zfs. I've built a working version of this config in virt-manager, proxmox (non-libvirt), archipel and ovirt. I'm not happy with any of them for various reasons. Anyone with openstack vm experience have a few | 19:00 |
| larsks | kxx: I mean the setting of core_plugin in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf, which will control how neutron sets up network devices on your compute nodes and network controllers. | 19:00 |
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| larsks | _dist: maybe. Ask some questions and we'll see if we can help. | 19:03 |
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| kxx | larsks: can come back when i will be on my workstation | 19:04 |
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| _dist | larsks: ok, I don't mind complicated setups if they work well so I'm not scared of that. The main shortcomings I saw (different in each) were 1) pci-passthrough support, 2) console support, 3) network bridge/bonding setup, 4) disk image management. How does openstack handle each of these areas? | 19:06 |
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| larsks | Yeah, pci-passthrough isn't available. If by "console" you mean "serial console", that's also not available except in a read-only way. Neutron -- openstack's networking project -- offers a great deal of flexability in creating networks, connecting between them, managing firewalls, load balancers, etc. But keep in mind that the use case for openstack -- and the reason why you don't see thinks like pci | 19:08 |
| larsks | passthrough and serial console support -- assumes that the people using the service do not have access to the actual hardware. | 19:08 |
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| _dist | ah, I understand. By console I meant vnc/spice/etc. But, if since it uses libvirt I can still manually attach pci in the few cases I need to | 19:10 |
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| larsks | _dist: There is a browser-based vnc/spice client, also. | 19:12 |
| openstackstatus | NOTICE: zuul.openstack.org underwent maintenance today from 16:50 to 19:00 UTC, so any changes approved during that timeframe should be reapproved so as to be added to the gate. new patchsets uploaded for those two hours should be rechecked (no bug) if test results are desired | 19:13 |
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| HT_Sergio | Hey all. I'm getting "TypeError: libvirt_info() takes exactly 6 arguments (7 given)" in Nova with a fresh install & a few config options | 19:16 |
| HT_Sergio | Stack Trace: http://pastebin.com/vC2n9vyC | 19:16 |
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| larsks | HT_Sergio: What os are you running on (fedora/ubuntu/etc)? What version of libvirt are you using? | 19:17 |
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| HT_Sergio | Ubuntu 13.04 | 19:17 |
| HT_Sergio | libvirt 1.1.1 | 19:18 |
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| HT_Sergio | clean install of all 3. | 19:18 |
| HT_Sergio | it just looks like it's passing an extra argument: self.get_hypervisor_version() | 19:19 |
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| HT_Sergio | getting rid of that argument fixes this but then other problems come up lol | 19:19 |
| larsks | HT_Sergio: What version of nova? Havana, or from git, or something else? | 19:20 |
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| HT_Sergio | I'm 99% sure it's havana from apt-get | 19:20 |
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| larsks | Weird. It sounds like some sort of version-skew somewhere, but I'm not familiar enough with Ubuntu to know what's supported/expected. | 19:21 |
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| HT_Sergio | Version 1:2013.2-0ubuntu1 | 19:21 |
| _dist | larsks: Thanks for all your answers, that saved me a lot of time :) | 19:21 |
| HT_Sergio | happy to :) | 19:22 |
| larsks | _dist: no problem! | 19:22 |
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| HT_Sergio | btw some context: I was having an issue starting a previous-stopped instance booted from volume from Ceph | 19:22 |
| larsks | HT_Sergio: Ah, you're using Ceph. Take a look at this: | 19:22 |
| larsks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1233188 | 19:22 |
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| larsks | That is the first google result I found when I searched for your error message. | 19:23 |
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| HT_Sergio | lol that's it, thanks! | 19:24 |
| HT_Sergio | let me patch this and then I have another issue that comes up. | 19:24 |
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| HT_Sergio | http://pastebin.com/t02gDYNW | 19:39 |
| HT_Sergio | This happens after adding that patch larsks linked above | 19:39 |
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| perfectsine | How do you login to these CENTOS images from openstack? http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/OpenNebula | 19:40 |
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| HT_Sergio | I think the issue is because in the XML <device><disk><driver> there is an attribute name='qemu' that shouldn't be there | 19:41 |
| HT_Sergio | perfectsine, sorry I wasn't replying to your issue | 19:41 |
| perfectsine | HT_Sergio: np | 19:41 |
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| larsks | perfectsine: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/guest-images/ | 19:41 |
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| larsks | And log in as "cloud-user" | 19:41 |
| larsks | I have no idea about the ones from the CentOS cloud wiki. | 19:42 |
| perfectsine | Does the kickstart script need to be run? | 19:42 |
| larsks | perfectsine: No, that's the kickstart script that was used to create that image. | 19:42 |
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| perfectsine | larsks: awesome, thanks man, downloading it now | 19:43 |
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| larsks | HT_Sergio: It looks like libvirt is just crashing, but there's not an obvious error in the log. | 19:43 |
| HT_Sergio | I think it may be setting driver to 'qemu' ? | 19:43 |
| HT_Sergio | that's the only difference I see between that XML and the one it boots with | 19:44 |
| larsks | HT_Sergio: Not sure, honestly. | 19:44 |
| larsks | I'm wondering if you get any additional logs in /var/log/libvirt/*? | 19:44 |
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| HT_Sergio | I get this: http://pastebin.com/e4kamJaG | 19:46 |
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| HT_Sergio | let me comare it to starting a new instance... | 19:47 |
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| larsks | HT_Sergio: The "could not open disk image rbd:images/instance..." message seems like it might be the issue. | 19:47 |
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| HT_Sergio | hmm... the image is correct | 19:49 |
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| HT_Sergio | it's the same as the original xml file | 19:51 |
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| HT_Sergio | tho I don't actually see the file in ceph... | 19:52 |
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| HT_Sergio | I'm more worried about this: kvm binary is deprecated, please use qemu-system-x86_64 instead | 19:55 |
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| HT_Sergio | any ideas why it's putting in name='qemu | 20:00 |
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| larsks | I generally expect to see <disk type='file' device='disk'> | 20:00 |
| larsks | <driver name='qemu' type='raw'/> | 20:01 |
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| larsks | That is the appropriate block storage driver in most cases. | 20:01 |
| larsks | Oh wait, but you're using ceph. | 20:01 |
| HT_Sergio | <disk type='network' device='disk'> | 20:01 |
| HT_Sergio | <driver name='qemu' type='raw' cache='writethrough'/> | 20:01 |
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| HT_Sergio | <source protocol='rbd' name='images/instance-000003a8_disk'> | 20:01 |
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| HT_Sergio | that's from the XML created trying to start the instance | 20:02 |
| larsks | Yeah. You know, because I'm not familiar with ceph, I'm going to bow out. It does look like some sort of ceph/libvirt issue, but you need to find someone with more ceph experience than me. | 20:02 |
| HT_Sergio | originally it was the same, but without name='qemu' | 20:02 |
| larsks | Sorry! | 20:02 |
| HT_Sergio | thanks for you help so far!! | 20:02 |
| HT_Sergio | do you know who I might be able to bug about this? | 20:02 |
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| larsks | I'm not sure. You could try #ceph on OFTC and see if someone there has any thoughts. I have no idea how active the channel is. | 20:03 |
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| larsks | You could also post your question to ask.openstack.org, if you haven't already, do see if someone spots it there. | 20:03 |
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| larsks | Also potentionally the ceph-users mailing list or the openstack mailing list. | 20:04 |
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| datamatic | are there any resources to read more about amqp and openstack component communication? | 20:28 |
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| larsks | datamatic: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/rpc.html | 20:29 |
| larsks | datamatic: Is that the sort of thing you're looking for? | 20:29 |
| datamatic | thats perf thanks | 20:30 |
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| albionandrew_ | We have our new cluster up, with a few test instances. I did a migrate on one instance, clicked confirm then the dashboard crashed "internal sever error" incomplete redirection target of '/dashboard/' for URI '/' modified to 'http://node-16.company.com/dashboard | 20:37 |
| albionandrew_ | Any ideas? | 20:37 |
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| sputnik13 | how can you allow users to change their password on dashboard? | 21:33 |
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| sputnik13 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/change-user-passwords | 21:40 |
| sputnik13 | looks like it was implemented, but it's not apparent to me how to enable it | 21:40 |
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| sputnik13 | weird, I think I have the right version of horizon | 21:53 |
| sputnik13 | but the password setting panel doesn't show | 21:53 |
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| HT_Sergio | in nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py _hard_reboot() does anyone know where nova gets the disk source from when the backend is rbd (ceph)? | 22:40 |
| HT_Sergio | I think i might need to ask this in openstack-nova lol | 22:40 |
| HT_Sergio | larsks, you were right earlier than nova was messing with the disk name. I have no idea where it was getting the name it used | 22:41 |
| larsks | HT_Sergio: It's nice to know the error messages were telling us the truth. | 22:42 |
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| HT_Sergio | lol it sounds silly when you say it. I thought something earlier was causing that error too | 22:44 |
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| sputnik13 | I'm running havana, and can't get the "change password" under settings... I've been scouring google for an answer but haven't found anything and the horizon config page (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/settings.html) doesn't provide any clues... any hints on what I should be looking for? | 23:27 |
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