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| troya | hi all | 01:46 |
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| troya | anyone have experience on openstack ha ? | 01:46 |
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| troya | i have 2 machine for PoC. now i have cluster mysql and rabbitmq between both of them | 01:46 |
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| troya | then what the next ? | 01:46 |
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| xavpaice | troya: there's an excellent guide in the openstack docs | 02:02 |
| troya | xavpaice: this is do you mean > http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ch-api.html | 02:02 |
| xavpaice | yeah | 02:02 |
| xavpaice | just go at it one service at a time, and be prepared to do things like keepalived/vrrp, haproxy, etc | 02:03 |
| xavpaice | things can get quite complex if you're not careful | 02:03 |
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| troya | oke, lets do that :) | 02:06 |
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| troya | wait, what is Virtual IP for ? | 02:06 |
| troya | the fist step before create service cluster is configure Virtual IP | 02:07 |
| troya | what is it for ? | 02:07 |
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| iggy | did you try googling it? it's a pretty common concept in high availability setups | 02:38 |
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| troya | is configure VIP on both of machine > http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/s-api-vip.html | 03:12 |
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| xavpaice | you might be wise to put this all on a whiteboard before starting :) | 03:16 |
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| xavpaice | the virtual IP is an ip that is allocated to the currently active node in an active/passive cluster | 03:16 |
| xavpaice | you use it to address the service - so if for example you have horizon listening in the vip you point dns at the vip rather than individual server addresses | 03:17 |
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| bappa | hello all,i have launched a satck with autoscaling template and its working fine but the webserver group instance is unable to install yum in that instance.Instance is of fedora 20 and i am able to ping 8.8.8.8..can anyone help me resolving this issue? | 06:33 |
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| tty00 | hi all! i have some problem with neutron and floating ip's (using havana release and installed it with packstack) | 07:22 |
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| sparky43786 | holy crap I've got a working openstack icehouse debian jessie kvm computing ml2 openvswitch tenant vlans | 07:22 |
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| sparky43786 | I can't believe it | 07:22 |
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| sparky43786 | (expect for the dhcp) | 07:22 |
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| tty00 | my instances can talk to each other and with internet | 07:23 |
| sparky43786 | tty00: nice job | 07:24 |
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| sparky43786 | tty00: i just..moments ago got mine doing the same | 07:24 |
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| tty00 | now i want to add a floating IP to one of the test instances to be able to ping/ssh/http and nothing happends, any tip on how i can start troubleshoot this? | 07:24 |
| sparky43786 | idk, do you need to start getting into the secgroup rules? | 07:25 |
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| tty00 | i have done it (i think) | 07:25 |
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| sparky43786 | I just tried to ssh into mine on the vlan network and I couldn't... but I can ping it | 07:26 |
| tty00 | i'm using gre tunnels | 07:26 |
| sparky43786 | there you have it | 07:27 |
| tty00 | what about gre tunnels, i have no problem of switching to vlan, but want to know why gre sucks ;) | 07:28 |
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| sparky43786 | are you asking me.. or telling me.. haha | 07:28 |
| sparky43786 | like.. do you want to know why gre tunnels suck? | 07:29 |
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| sparky43786 | i probably should have done the gre, but I like the elegance of using the switches in the datacenter | 07:30 |
| tty00 | ofc, i like vlans as well, but this setup is a combined PoC and for use for our developers, we don't need to isolate them in vlans and i thought gre tunnels should be good enough | 07:31 |
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| tty00 | my question was an response to your "there you have it", i read your line as "don't use gre tunnels with openstack if you need external access' ;) | 07:32 |
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| tty00 | it might been an misunderstanding from my side | 07:32 |
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| sparky43786 | I'm new to this just like you are | 07:35 |
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| tty00 | haha, good to know :) | 07:36 |
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| sparky43786 | it seems like there are so many design decisions | 07:36 |
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| tty00 | yes, i agreee, and you should know what you want before you are trying out what you want ;) | 07:37 |
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| tty00 | catch-22 all over | 07:37 |
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| sparky43786 | that's what I was thinking as well | 07:38 |
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| tty00 | btw, thank you for hinting about secgroups... the default rules that allows any trafic in doesn't work so you need to explicit add rules | 07:38 |
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| sparky43786 | the default all blank doesn't allow everything in | 07:40 |
| sparky43786 | i'm just looking at that with ssh access now | 07:41 |
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| tty00 | cool, i'm able to ssh to my floating ip after adding a rule that allowed it | 07:42 |
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| tty00 | next step is to see what LBaaS can do for me :) | 07:43 |
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| sparky43786 | good luck | 07:43 |
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| sparky43786 | i got network running but I have to manually add the dhcp address.. dhcp server is reporting hosts and ips but no joy on the client | 07:54 |
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| tty00 | i had that problem earlier, but i don't remeber what i did to fix it | 07:56 |
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| tty00 | are you able to communicate if you set an ip on eth0 inside the instance? | 07:57 |
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| sparky43786 | yes and I just set the rules to be able to access it remotely as well | 07:59 |
| sparky43786 | i see the request come in on the tcpdump on the network nodes physical interface | 07:59 |
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| sparky43786 | but no response.. so sad.. ;-) | 08:00 |
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| tty00 | can it be like you have an dnsmasq (installed with libvirt or something) that binds on 0.0.0.0:68? | 08:02 |
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| sparky43786 | no | 08:05 |
| sparky43786 | and the dnsmasq runs in its own namespace | 08:05 |
| sparky43786 | i guess I'll have to sniff it out | 08:05 |
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| sparky43786 | yeah I can ping the dhcp but not get any addresses from it | 08:10 |
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| tty00 | any iptables denying dhcp queries/answers? | 08:11 |
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| sparky43786 | ip netns exec qdhcp-c0c4e7e2-3e1a-4b2d-b055-51a5face8687 iptables -L -n -v | 08:19 |
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| sparky43786 | no | 08:19 |
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| sparky43786 | it seems like the dnsmasq running as nobody doesn't have access to the hosts files and such.. hmm | 08:31 |
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| AtomniaK | Hello everybody, i am a trainee, i work in a company for my internship. I must try to find a solution about tunneling between two datacenters....do you know if openStack Nova could provide VXLAN encapsulation or something similar? if yes, can i find a project that implement a VXLAN Gateway? Thanks a lot for your answer | 09:00 |
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| fifieldt | hi AtomniaK, you'll want to look at OpenStack Networking (aka Neutron) | 09:05 |
| fifieldt | you use that to do the tunnelling for your vms | 09:05 |
| AtomniaK | hi fifieldt! ok thank you for your answer. yes exactly its for my vm's | 09:06 |
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| Qrize | Hello hello | 09:25 |
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| Qrize | Does anyone know at what time we can expect the ice house release | 09:25 |
| Qrize | probably us time? | 09:26 |
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| sld | Qrize: I've been wondering the same thing, but just know that it will be sometime today. | 09:32 |
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| Qrize | true | 09:36 |
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| Qrize | well, by the time it is released it is probably already evening here hehe | 09:37 |
| Qrize | fresh start tomorrow or monday :) | 09:37 |
| sld | where are you | 09:38 |
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| Qrize | the Netherlands | 10:01 |
| Qrize | and you= | 10:02 |
| Qrize | ? | 10:02 |
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| sld | US | 10:02 |
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| fifieldt | Qrize, announcements start going out around 9am US/Central time | 10:03 |
| sld | I hear that it is supposed to happen sometime afternoon, europe... not sure what time zone over there though | 10:03 |
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| sld | there ya go | 10:03 |
| sld | :) | 10:03 |
| Qrize | Aaah thanks | 10:03 |
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| Qrize | that 16:00 my time | 10:04 |
| sld | so still plenty of day left. ;) | 10:05 |
| Qrize | by the way, you're up early sld ;) | 10:05 |
| sld | i work nights. | 10:05 |
| sld | :) | 10:05 |
| sld | been around for hours, and will be for a few more hours still | 10:05 |
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| Qrize | hehe alright ;) | 10:06 |
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| admin0 | hi all .. how do I test HA in neutron routers ? | 11:28 |
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| ogzy | i want to define a security service as if when a tenant is activate that security service i want its all traffic pass through the servers that i installed, any refernce architecture? | 12:35 |
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| inc0 | hello, how can I set up default security rules? I mean ones which are created with new tenant? | 12:47 |
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| Thumper6501 | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ RELEASE or RIOT! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ | 13:01 |
| nmap911 | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ RELEASE or RIOT! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ | 13:01 |
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| ttx | Icehouse is out! Grab it while it's hot. | 13:04 |
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| dims | ttx, RT'ed your tweet :) | 13:05 |
| nmap911 | TY :d | 13:06 |
| nmap911 | :D | 13:06 |
| nmap911 | RIOT AVOIDED | 13:06 |
| jrwren | congrats on release! | 13:06 |
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| Qiming | ? | 13:12 |
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| Qiming | Where is the news announced? | 13:12 |
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| go_chiba | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2014-April/000225.html | 13:12 |
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| Qiming | !!! thanks, go_chiba. | 13:13 |
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| go_chiba | Congrats guys! | 13:14 |
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| Ajaeger | Qiming: planned for Juno | 13:18 |
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| Qiming | Ajaeger, got it. | 13:18 |
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| andrewbogott | Is 'nova resize' generally known to be broken? Over multiple OS versions I've never seen it work properly... | 13:22 |
| andrewbogott | Instance resizing... 0% complete | 13:22 |
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| Tielem | Hello all, I am new to OpenStack and am reading up on it and have a question (I obviously googled it, found conflicting answers). OpenStack makes use of computing nodes (that run software) and controller nodes (that controle the computing nodes?). I have a small budget (aka I am cheap/bootstrapping), would it be possible to run both nodes on the same baremetal hardware (I assume it is not advised)? | 14:04 |
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| fifieldt | yes, that's possible Tielem | 14:05 |
| andrewbogott | Tielem: it's definitely possible. | 14:05 |
| andrewbogott | And you generally only need one controller in any case. | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | OpenStack doesn't actually have the concept of 'controller' or 'compute' | 14:05 |
| fifieldt | it's just a collection of services | 14:05 |
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| fifieldt | and you run whatever you want, whereever you want | 14:05 |
| Tielem | So I would just run both services on the same OS? | 14:05 |
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| jrwren | Tielem: you can run ALL services on same node or nodes if you want. | 14:05 |
| jrwren | Tielem: openstack is like LEGO building blocks, and the pieces fit together however you want. | 14:06 |
| fifieldt | Tielem, to see what it might look like, you can set up a small VM and just run this single shell script to get an all-in-one install http://devstack.org/ | 14:06 |
| Thumper6501 | it does sort od fly in the face of redundancy and resource sharing though... | 14:06 |
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| jrwren | running on separate nodes sort of flies in face of resource sharing too :) | 14:07 |
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| Tielem | I understand the drawbacks of doing it, I just dont want to spend the budget right now to have redundancy and failover - but keep the options open for the future. Thank you all, I shall give devstack a try. | 14:08 |
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| Infitialis | Because Openstack does not support VM High Availability, what kind of ways of HA do you guys use to achieve VM HA with the compute nodes? | 14:15 |
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| Thumper6501 | vmware :) | 14:21 |
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| Infitialis | why would you use vmware if it's proprietary ? :P | 14:22 |
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| gmi | Infitialis: Openstack cloud builders are not usually trying to provide HA for VMs, but for the cloud infrastructure that supports spinning up new VMs | 14:26 |
| Thumper6501 | because it supports VM HA | 14:26 |
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| Thumper6501 | my client's uptime > my stance on opensource | 14:27 |
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| Qiming | currently, the community still splits on whether VM HA is the right thing to do | 14:28 |
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| gmi | Thumper6501:if the VM needs HA than VMWare is an excellent choice | 14:28 |
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| Infitialis | gmi: so a new VM is more important than keeping one alive? | 14:28 |
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| Thumper6501 | I tend to hybridize - I have OS pushing VMs to Vmware (as opposed to KVM ow whatever) - it works quite well, gives me the flexability and awesome API layer of openstack with the reliabily and featurset of VMware. | 14:29 |
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| sparky43786 | Thumper6501: what do you do for storage? | 14:31 |
| gmi | Infitialis:yeap, that's the entire cloud computing philosophy (puppies vs cows) http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/041113-servers-cows-puppies-268650.html | 14:31 |
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| Thumper6501 | That's on vmware too, but I'm flexible on that. | 14:31 |
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| sparky43786 | I'm so close to having my first working openstack | 14:36 |
| sparky43786 | I upgraded to icehouse last night and got my vlans working | 14:36 |
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| sparky43786 | now if I can just get the dhcp system working | 14:37 |
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| Infitialis | gmi: I guess you could see it like that if you'd have a lot of hardware and were a million dollar company | 14:38 |
| Infitialis | but for a small cloud provider | 14:38 |
| sparky43786 | Congratulations to the dev and packaging team, the upgrade went really smoothly | 14:38 |
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| Infitialis | gmi: I would say that a small cloud provider does want to keep servers running as long as possible. | 14:39 |
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| gmi | sparky43786: check if this new troubleshooting section helps you: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/network_troubleshooting.html | 14:42 |
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| Infitialis | anyone that uses the kvm hypervisor and does see VMs as puppies thus using a HA solution? =) | 14:42 |
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| sparky43786 | gmi: thank you, yes that was my guide last night, when I decided to upgrade to icehouse. I figured out that the flows for the vlan rules were not being applied. | 14:44 |
| sparky43786 | gmi: in fact, I would say, that guide actually taught me everything about how the networking works. Without it I would have been in trouble | 14:45 |
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| gmi | sparky43786: I don't think too many people had a chance to test the new release yet, so you might be on your own for a while | 14:46 |
| Infitialis | sparky43786: did it take a lot of effort to upgrade to icehouse? did you upgrade from havana? | 14:46 |
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| sparky43786 | Infitialis: I had a working/(broken network) installation with debian jessie, havana. Nothing defined in it really, nothing to lose. It went really smoothly, actually. | 14:48 |
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| sparky43786 | Infitialis: in aptitude I had to always choose the last option to get the packages installed. | 14:49 |
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| sparky43786 | Infitialis: I think I had to remove the nova-compute and the re-add to get the dependences happy | 14:50 |
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| Infitialis | sparky43786: right.. the dependency problem .. love those | 14:50 |
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| sparky43786 | it was great, I was going through aptitude... no, no, no.. no.. no.. the very last option.... Installs the packages you want | 14:52 |
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| sparky43786 | gmi:it looks like the dhcp server issue is perms issue. dnsmasq running as nobody gets permission denied | 15:10 |
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| JoeHazzers_ | ttx: having a bit of a bug-editing day are we? :) | 15:18 |
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| ttx | JoeHazzers: I have automated minions | 15:18 |
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| BMDan | Just dropped some code in https://github.com/BMDan/OpenStack-Hypervisor-Balance to balance and/or drain HVs as a background task in shared-storage clouds that support live migration. Anyone care to take a gander and provide feedback? | 15:30 |
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| JoeHazzers | ttx: :D | 15:31 |
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| onxis | Greetings all | 15:32 |
| onxis | :) | 15:32 |
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| rm_work | are the tickets for the OpenStack Summit next month transferrable? if someone bought one but now can't make it, and wants to give it to someone else? | 15:39 |
| sparky43786 | gmi:I fixed the dhcp permission issue! | 15:39 |
| sparky43786 | shucks.. for the first time ever I have a working openstack.. and it's icehouse no less | 15:40 |
| onxis | I'm looking forward to being at the OpenStack Summit | 15:40 |
| onxis | missed last year | 15:40 |
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| jproulx | rm_work they make up badges with names so transfer would take human intervention, I'd send teh question to "info at openstack.org" which is what "contact us" on http://www.openstack.org/foundation/staff points to | 15:43 |
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| rm_work | jproulx: ok, thanks | 15:43 |
| jproulx | rm_work I suspect they will be able to help you out so long as they aren't swamped with swap requests :) | 15:44 |
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| rm_work | jproulx: I hope so too… though I am still in the research stage to see if it is feasible, I still need to actually find someone who could give me their ticket :P | 15:45 |
| jproulx | Ah well can;t help you there I'm using mine :) | 15:46 |
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| rm_work | an nevermind, I actually found it on the summit registration page :P | 15:47 |
| rm_work | "Registration refunds and transfers will be granted through April 28, 2014. After this time no refunds or transfers will be made. To request a refund or transfer please contact events@openstack.org." | 15:47 |
| rm_work | so I have a week or two | 15:47 |
| rm_work | somewhere in the middle... | 15:47 |
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| tianst | Hi, Is anyone use the latest xen + libvirt code + openstack as the environment ? | 16:04 |
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| J0hnC1ark | anyone have libcloud working against devstack? | 16:13 |
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| mriedem | this is a stab in the dark, but has anyone had problems with resizing a nova instance with NFS in havana and it fails because there is a qemu process locking the file that the libvirt driver is trying to remove after the resize? | 16:25 |
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| andrewbogott | mriedem: I have never seen resize work properly :( | 16:29 |
| mriedem | andrewbogott: with NFS? | 16:29 |
| andrewbogott | I just use local storage | 16:29 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: I am here now | 16:34 |
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| mriedem | schwicht: hey, so this is all setup correctly? http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-migrations.html | 16:34 |
| alop | anyone seen nova-compute error when trying to spawn instance with “libvirtError: Unable to read from monitor: Connection reset by peer” | 16:35 |
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| mriedem | alop: yeah, libvirt drops, check your qemu logs | 16:35 |
| mriedem | alop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1255624 | 16:36 |
| alop | thanks | 16:36 |
| mweisbach | mriedem: hi :-) | 16:36 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: schwicht: see this? http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-migrations.html#true-live-migration-kvm-libvirt | 16:36 |
| mriedem | "The Compute service does not use libvirt's live miration by default because there is a risk that the migration process will never terminate. This can happen if the guest operating system dirties blocks on the disk faster than they can migrated." | 16:37 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: schwicht: i'd try setting live_migration_flag=VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE,VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER,VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE in nova.conf and see if you can recreate | 16:37 |
| mriedem | actually sounds like the opposite, things are locking up but you're not using live migrate | 16:38 |
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| mriedem | schwicht: mweisbach: seen this? https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/3/html/Installation_and_Configuration_Guide/Configuring_for_NFS_Storage.html | 16:39 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: yes, I have a setup like mentioned on the web page - a server acting as nfs server, two nova compute nodes mounting nova/instances as shared.... live migration works as expected w/o issues... once I try to trigger a resize I ran into issues | 16:42 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: local resize works fine, but a resize+migration does not... one observation I made: VM is shut off immediately, even acpi is configured and acpid is running inside VM... | 16:44 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: setup in which web page specifically? the openstack migration guide with NFS or the red hat one for configuring NFS? | 16:45 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: and do you have "live_migration_flag=VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE,VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER,VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE" set in nova.conf or not? | 16:46 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: but the qemu-kvm process is still running on the source node while qemu-img convert already does the resize job (on the instance/uuid_resize directory)... once the convert is finished, the _resize directory sould be removed, right? but this fails because qemu-kvm still access disk image... and we end up in a .nfs000000xxx file | 16:46 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: can you answer/confirm the questions above? | 16:47 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: nova.conf includes "live_migration_flag = VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE,VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER,VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE", yes | 16:48 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: ok, the doc says that can cause the operation to never complete, which it sounds like you're hitting - can you try disabling that and see if you still hit the problem? | 16:48 |
| J0hnC1ark | @mriedem - do you have NFS locking or anything extra configured? | 16:48 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: ^ | 16:49 |
| * mriedem is the proxy here | 16:49 | |
| coredump | what's the fastest/easiest way to move chef to another server? (version 11) | 16:49 |
| J0hnC1ark | :( | 16:49 |
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| mriedem | mweisbach: stepping out for a bit for lunch, will be back soon | 16:49 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: I'll try it... enjoy your meal | 16:49 |
| schwicht | mweisbach: could you paste the active NFS settings (vnc does not allow cut&paste) | 16:50 |
| schwicht | J0hnC1ark: mriedem: this is a RHEL 6.5 based NFS server and client setup | 16:51 |
| mweisbach | schwicht: 10.5.1.153:/EXPORT/nova1/instances on /opt/stack/data/nova/instances type nfs (rw,sync,vers=3,context="unconfined_u:object_r:usr_t:s0",addr=10.5.1.153) | 16:51 |
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| mweisbach | J0hnC1ark: (for mriedem) no special NFS locking or extra configurations yet | 16:58 |
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| J0hnC1ark | @mweisbach Can you try disabling the locking as a test? | 16:59 |
| mweisbach | J0hnC1ark: how / where? | 17:00 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: I cleaned up my environment and deployed 3 instances again... did a dumpxml to get disk location of one instance, did a lsof and found that two processes do access the disk of instance1 - one is nova:nova, second one is qemu:qemu owned... is this as-designed? | 17:04 |
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| J0hnC1ark | @mweisbach mount -o nolock should disable the locking for the NFS mount | 17:04 |
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| mweisbach | J0hnC1ark: ok, will try to remount | 17:06 |
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| schwicht | J0hnC1ark: is that best practices or for debugging, triage? | 17:07 |
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| mweisbach | J0hnC1ark: nolock seems to be default | 17:09 |
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| J0hnC1ark | hmmmm, odd that nolock is the default, RedHat default or OpenStack default? | 17:13 |
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| schwicht | J0hnC1ark: the nfs setup has been performed manually, so no automatic or chef deployment | 17:15 |
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| mweisbach | J0hnC1ark: "10.5.1.153:/EXPORT/nova1/instances /opt/stack/data/nova/instances nfs rw,sync,context=unconfined_u:object_r:usr_t:s0,relatime,vers=3,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=10.5.1.153,mountvers=3,mountport=38565,mountproto=udp,local_lock=none,addr=10.5.1.153 0 0" is effective | 17:18 |
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| J0hnC1ark | I think local_lock is different than nolock, one is server side and one is client side only | 17:22 |
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| mtrisoline | http://pastebin.com/Kek6322C I mentioned this in #openstack-nova and thoughts are this is a packaging issues with debian 7.4 I noticed that both python 2.6 and 2.7 are installed | 17:52 |
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| mtrisoline | This error occured after installing the neutron networking services for the compute node to migrate from nova-network to neutron | 17:53 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: so if you look at the file hugging process you see http://pastebin.com/W5YaFi8M | 18:06 |
| schwicht | I looked at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.virt.disk.vfs.guestfs.html and wonder if that is some attempt to inject something into theephermal disk that get stuck | 18:07 |
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| mriedem | schwicht: mweisbach; do you see any of the log messages from this module before the hang? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/disk/vfs/guestfs.py?h=stable/havana | 18:09 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: that would be in the nova/compute.log? | 18:11 |
| mriedem | yeah | 18:11 |
| mriedem | is debug logging enabled? | 18:11 |
| schwicht | yep | 18:11 |
| schwicht | I think that is promising | 18:12 |
| schwicht | mweisbach: could you paste that please | 18:12 |
| schwicht | (I just have VNC access) | 18:12 |
| mriedem | schwicht: mweisbach: also, what's the nova.conf value for libvirt_inject_partition ? | 18:12 |
| schwicht | we have issues mounting /dev/sda | 18:12 |
| schwicht | in pastbin please | 18:12 |
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| mweisbach | schwicht: http://pastebin.com/TVScVmeh | 18:16 |
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| mweisbach | schwicht: "libvirt_inject_partition = -1" | 18:17 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: I have seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1284456 but libguestgfs seems installed | 18:23 |
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| schwicht | this is havana 2013.2.1 | 18:23 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: how do we enable debug properly that we can see why this is happeing? | 18:31 |
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| schwicht | Iwe should not . never see a disk injection for resizing on the src instance | 18:31 |
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| schwicht | we would those qemu-kvm run in parallel accessing this image? | 18:32 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: how does nova sequence the injection and the boot? | 18:39 |
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| schwicht | I am irritated that we see both processes running concurrently | 18:39 |
| schwicht | we even see that on regular boots of instances (always two processes for each image) | 18:39 |
| mweisbach | mriedem: if I deploy let's say a 8 GB base template into a m1.small (20 GB), does nova tries to inject/resize on deployment too? | 18:39 |
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| schwicht | just that the resize + relocate case exposes the issue | 18:40 |
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| schwicht | I would expect that this happens in sequence with clear states? | 18:40 |
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| schwicht | what in the configuration can cause this? | 18:40 |
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| mriedem | schwicht: mweisbach: sorry, system locked up, reading scrollback | 18:46 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: is a lock on the base image the mechanism that nove relaizes that the injection is completed? | 18:47 |
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| mriedem | schwicht: mweisbach: openstack-config --set /etc/nova/nova.conf DEFAULT debug True | 18:48 |
| mriedem | then restart nova-compute service for debug logging | 18:48 |
| mriedem | libvirt_inject_partition=-1 is what i'd expect for using libguestfs on rhel 6 | 18:49 |
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| schwicht | we have both | 18:49 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't expect any resize on a boot | 18:49 |
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| schwicht | mriedem: I wonder if nova monitors the lock on the base image to see if the inityial injection phase has been completed | 18:49 |
| schwicht | I think we do | 18:49 |
| schwicht | always | 18:50 |
| schwicht | (SCE does) | 18:50 |
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| schwicht | at least we see the guestfs process even for regular initial boots | 18:50 |
| mriedem | but there isn't any sce-specific code in this flow right? it's just qemu/libvirt driver in nova/libguestfs | 18:50 |
| schwicht | well | 18:50 |
| schwicht | the instance got created through SCE | 18:50 |
| schwicht | and then we used nova to resize | 18:51 |
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| mweisbach | mriedem: hmm... if a resize (to the initial flavor size) would happen on deployment time, this would explain why we see two processes (one nova, one qemu) with access to disk img | 18:51 |
| mriedem | schwicht: sce is just proxying to libvirt via nova right? | 18:51 |
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| schwicht | yes | 18:51 |
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| schwicht | all goes through nova | 18:51 |
| mweisbach | mriedem: an we triggered resize via nova cli as well - same result | 18:52 |
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| jax | hi .. i've been using devstack (new to it) and have been bouncing from nova network to neturon .. i am trying to use nova network now (which i had working before).. for some reason my vm's are not getting their private ip address. any suggestions relative to what i should look at? | 18:52 |
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| BMDan | jax: nova network is VERY old. Are you sure you were using nova network? You were likely using Quantum or Neutron. | 18:55 |
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| jax | bmdan.. the default devstack configuration does not use neutron.. i did my initial testing with the default .. so quite sure. | 18:56 |
| jax | ultimately i am interested in neutron, and got that partially working | 18:56 |
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| jax | but now im trying to return to a known starting point | 18:56 |
| BMDan | jax: Huh. Okay. I've never played with DevStack. | 18:56 |
| jax | k ty | 18:56 |
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| jax | this is less a devstack issue at this point. openstack is up and running. and my vm's are not getting their private ip | 18:57 |
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| mriedem1 | mweisbach_brb: schwicht: so that "Unable to mount image" message in the logs from is_image_partitionless isn't an error per se, but it would you can't resize: | 19:17 |
| mriedem1 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/disk/api.py?h=stable/havana#n143 | 19:17 |
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| mriedem1 | *would mean | 19:18 |
| schwicht | well | 19:18 |
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| schwicht | on the dst instance the disk resize actually works (just the partitions inside of the disk stay the same) | 19:18 |
| schwicht | I understand that we see the issue on the SRC instance | 19:19 |
| schwicht | (eventually on first deploy) | 19:19 |
| schwicht | but let me ask the question again | 19:19 |
| mriedem1 | schwicht: that's also called here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py?h=stable/havana#n4601 | 19:19 |
| schwicht | how does nove know, that it is save for a transition of state from <injection_state> to <boot_state> or | 19:20 |
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| schwicht | ow does nova know, that it is save for a transition of state from <injection_state> to <relocate/capture_state> | 19:21 |
| schwicht | just by the libvirt status of the domain? | 19:21 |
| schwicht | or do we use a flock on the boot image to tell? | 19:21 |
| schwicht | I wonder if that is the root cause here? | 19:21 |
| schwicht | we seem to have two states in parallel that should never co-exist if I understand what I see | 19:22 |
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| mriedem1 | schwicht: on just boot, or resize, or both> | 19:22 |
| mriedem1 | ? | 19:22 |
| mriedem1 | dansmith: do you know the answer to that? | 19:22 |
| mriedem1 | ^ | 19:22 |
| schwicht | I wonder if that particular install has an equivalent issue on boot and resize | 19:22 |
| mriedem1 | schwicht: this is a cow image or raw? | 19:23 |
| schwicht | becaushmmm | 19:23 |
| mriedem1 | just trying to dig through some of this logic in the driver | 19:23 |
| dansmith | um | 19:23 |
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| dansmith | inject->boot because it's a single thread doing it | 19:24 |
| schwicht | raw image | 19:24 |
| dansmith | you can't go from inject->capture because the instance isn't in active state | 19:24 |
| schwicht | ok | 19:24 |
| schwicht | the real issue is | 19:24 |
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| schwicht | that at runtime of the image | 19:24 |
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| schwicht | we see two qemu process accessing the same image | 19:24 |
| schwicht | and one of them seems to be the libguestfs (injection) instance | 19:25 |
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| schwicht | that I understand does for example a resize | 19:25 |
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| mriedem1 | schwicht: did you see any debug messages coming out of VFSGuestFS? | 19:36 |
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| schwicht | mweisbach_brb: your vpn/VNC dropped, could you please re-establish? mriedem1: I lost access to the re-creation env atm | 19:37 |
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| schwicht | mriedem1: it getting late in Germany .. so mweisbach_brb: might not get back to us quickly | 19:38 |
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| schwicht | mriedem1: good news .. got VPN back, bad news: mweisbach_brb: has cleaned for the next round of capture so I do not know | 19:47 |
| schwicht | we will try to recreate once more | 19:47 |
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| mriedem1 | schwicht: ok, do we know if changing that live_migration_flag made any difference? or didn't test with that change? | 19:48 |
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| mriedem | schwicht: do you have qemu logs for any of this? | 19:56 |
| mriedem | schwicht: but i think you're right about the VFSGuestFS stuff, i'm pretty sure that's the nova process you're seeing, it starts up a thread pool | 19:57 |
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| mriedem | does libguestfs log to anything? syslog? | 19:57 |
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| jsidhu | :-/ | 20:30 |
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| swat30 | hi folks | 20:33 |
| jsidhu | i think we’re the only two alive here :-] | 20:33 |
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| jsidhu | no sorry | 20:34 |
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| BMDan | I'm starting to suspect that most people aren't running OpenStack in a shared-storage configuration. Which is sad, because live-migrate is awesome. ;) | 20:52 |
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| andrewbogott | BMDan: what do you use for your filesystem? | 20:55 |
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