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| Guest23234 | Hi, | 07:32 |
| Guest23234 | 0 down vote favorite I was trying to fetch the resource and usage of resources of an instance using ceilometer api. I have used v2/meters/instance , v2/meters/cpu_util and v2/meters/memory. The result these api's return is too large and I'm not able to identify the paramater that needs to be taken to find the resource usage. I need to find the cpu utilization, bandwidth and memory usage of an instance using the ceilometer a | 07:32 |
| Guest23234 | Can anyone please help me out | 07:32 |
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| rickz_ | I was trying to fetch the resource and usage of resources of an instance using ceilometer api. I have used v2/meters/instance , v2/meters/cpu_util and v2/meters/memory. The result these api's return is too large and I'm not able to identify the paramater that needs to be taken to find the resource usage. I need to find the cpu utilization, bandwidth and memory usage of an instance using the ceilometer api. Can anyone please tell me | 07:52 |
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| madko | Hi, I'm trying to instanciate some images from Horizon, I only get a loading box. No clue on what is wrong in horizon.log. Where can I look? This is isehouse installed from packstack | 08:23 |
| jpich | madko: Do you get to select your image etc and click the launch button, or does it not even go that far? | 08:24 |
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| madko | Yes I have the image sucessfully saved, I can see all my images, but when I click on laucnh, only a loading box with the rolling wheel | 08:26 |
| madko | I wait like an hour, nothing. My controller host is a fresh install, but my nodes were already running havana. I just upgrade them. Could be the problem? | 08:28 |
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| Lokesh | hello | 09:00 |
| Lokesh | I was trying to fetch the resource and usage of resources of an instance using ceilometer api. I have used v2/meters/instance , v2/meters/cpu_util and v2/meters/memory. The result these api's return is too large and I'm not able to identify the paramater that needs to be taken to find the resource usage. I need to find the cpu utilization, bandwidth and memory usage of an instance using the ceilometer api. Can anyone please tell me | 09:00 |
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| Lokesh | hello | 09:02 |
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| jwwww | Hello. | 09:48 |
| jwwww | I'm looking to replace and old NFS server, by a solution based on openstack, does someone have suggestions, or documentations for me to read ? I'm curently following the install guide for debian. | 09:48 |
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| Madkiss | cheers. | 10:36 |
| Madkiss | Just in case you are wondering how packets flow inside OpenStack Neutron, you might consider this helpful: https://www.hastexo.com/resources/hints-and-kinks/understanding-packet-flows-openstack-neutron | 10:37 |
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| hrzbrg | Madkiss, it seems that the main part is missing. I only see paragraphs with teasers but no explanations | 11:26 |
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| pheadron | hrzbrg, i agree, i was just aabout to tell Madkiss that. | 11:29 |
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| Madkiss | hrzbrg, pheadron: hu? | 11:29 |
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| pheadron | Madkiss, the URL you gave.. contained no content, only a topic: | 11:30 |
| pheadron | https://www.hastexo.com/resources/hints-and-kinks/understanding-packet-flows-openstack-neutron | 11:30 |
| Madkiss | so you don't see a down-loadable PDF document at the bottom of it? | 11:30 |
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| hrzbrg | Madkiss, nope | 11:31 |
| Madkiss | can you reloadÃ? | 11:31 |
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| Madkiss | gna | 11:32 |
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| hrzbrg | Madkiss, nothing still | 11:32 |
| Madkiss | gimme a sec | 11:32 |
| Madkiss | one fine day I will start slaughtering drupal developers | 11:33 |
| pheadron | nope, Madkiss :) | 11:33 |
| pheadron | lol:) | 11:33 |
| pheadron | hey.. don't forget you're recorded here! | 11:33 |
| pheadron | you can say: joombla developers instaead | 11:33 |
| pheadron | it's a great way to make me aware of hastexo's offerrings! | 11:34 |
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| Madkiss | pheadron, hrzbrg: try again please. | 11:36 |
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| pheadron | sorry, not yet | 11:37 |
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| Madkiss | pheadron: well, now I can see it when not being logged in, so you should be able to see it as well ... | 11:39 |
| pheadron | checking now.\ | 11:40 |
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| hrzbrg | Madkiss, yay I can download it :) thanks | 11:41 |
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| pheadron | it's working on firefox for me now. thank you.!:) | 11:42 |
| pheadron | it doesnt work on my chromium (ubuntu 13.10) but that doesnt matter . Thanks for informaiton. | 11:45 |
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| pheadron | lol quite honestly, i dindt know you guys offerred classes, so that means i've gotta put in to request training! | 11:48 |
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| madko | ceilometer is missing a python-pecan dependancy on compute node | 11:52 |
| madko | and python-ceilometerclient | 11:53 |
| madko | on icehouse repository | 11:53 |
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| hay | hi all.. I am stuck in a point where my instances get a private IP address and I can ping it from controller (I am using GRE), but every instance (I am trying with cirros and ubuntu img) stops in the process of booting as I can see in the console... I have checked all logs and the only warning there is WARNING neutron.db.agentschedulers_db [-] Fail scheduling network... any help will be | 12:04 |
| hay | greatly appreciated :) | 12:04 |
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| Madkiss | pheadron: We'll be happy to welcome you in one of our classes :) | 12:30 |
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| madko | sss | 13:07 |
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| setuid | Random question: Is it possible to kick the tires of OpenStack by running it inside an existing hypervisor, like ESXi? | 13:10 |
| larsks | setuid: Sure. I do all of my testing of openstack inside virtual instances running in openstack :) | 13:11 |
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| setuid | larsks, Do you have a best practices writeup/howto guide for that? | 13:14 |
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| setuid | I only have a single ESXi node at my disposal to test with at the moment | 13:14 |
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| larsks | Running an "all-in-one" setup is very common for testing things out. Tools like "devstack" will do this for you with a minimum of fuss. If you're using a Red Hat derivative, "packstack" will also work. | 13:15 |
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| madko | ceilometer.agent ConnectionError: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED seems bad? | 13:20 |
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| Evidenz | will be 14.04 the supported ubuntu version for icehouse? | 14:18 |
| gleam | canonical is supporting icehouse on 12.04 and 14.04, 14.04+icehouse is LTS for both | 14:19 |
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| Evidenz | my problem is i'm on 13.04 atm and 13.10 is not an option so I'll want to upgrade the release when I'm able to :) | 14:20 |
| kbringard | FWIW, if I was installing icehouse from scratch today, I'd do it on 14.04 | 14:21 |
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| jwwww | so guys, nobody got some documentations or advises regarding installation of openstack to replace a file server ? | 14:22 |
| gleam | yeah, 14.04 is definitely where to start for a new deployment. it'll have ceph 0.80 once that's released, too. | 14:22 |
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| Madkiss | jwwww: what are you specifically looking for? | 14:23 |
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| Madkiss | what does OpenStack have to do with file servers? ;) | 14:23 |
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| Evidenz | haha a new deployment is unfortunately no option for me. I'm a trainee and started a project where I use obsolete laptops for my openstack and ceph environemt and I'm now that far that a new deployment would take too much time and the deadline for the project is anytime soon | 14:24 |
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| Madkiss | Evidenz: what are you doing with OpenStack? | 14:24 |
| gleam | from what i've seen canonical has done a good job with the upgrade path to 14.04+icehouse. I think you'd find it less painful than you think | 14:24 |
| Evidenz | in my company we had a change schedule for laptops | 14:24 |
| jwwww | I'm trying to follow the tutorial for debian installation on the website. but it seems very generic. | 14:25 |
| Evidenz | and we have now about 200 laptops | 14:25 |
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| Evidenz | I'll configure all services on different laptops | 14:25 |
| Evidenz | their cpu and ram will be used for the compute nodes | 14:25 |
| gleam | this is making my head explode | 14:25 |
| Evidenz | and the hdds will be used for ceph | 14:25 |
| jwwww | Madkiss: if using openstack to have cloud storage is not a good idea, tell me why and I stop wastin my time ! | 14:25 |
| Evidenz | i dont know how the perfomrance will be | 14:25 |
| Madkiss | holy moly. | 14:26 |
| gleam | that's taking commodity hardware to the extreme | 14:27 |
| Madkiss | jwwww: OpenStack is a cloud framework; it offers computing and, through the OpenStack Swift service, object-based storage | 14:27 |
| Madkiss | Evidenz: what you are looking for is OpenStack+Ubuntu 14.04+Puppet+Kickstack+puppet-cephdeploy. Should allow you to get this setup up within a day. | 14:27 |
| jwwww | Madkiss: I've read things about cinder, isn't that for file storage ? | 14:28 |
| Evidenz | yes puppet will be implemented as well =) | 14:28 |
| kbringard | cinder is block storage | 14:28 |
| Madkiss | jwwww: Cinder works based on pre-existing storages such as NAS- or SAN devices. Or Ceph clusters, for that matter. | 14:28 |
| kbringard | so instead of a write once, read many object model, it's meant to be raw disk you add to your instances | 14:28 |
| kbringard | and what Madkiss said | 14:29 |
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| Madkiss | jwwww: so in fact, it's a storage comissioning service for virtual machines, but not a genuine storage provider itself. | 14:29 |
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| Madkiss | Evidenz: If you have Puppet, what's the problem with re-installing 200 machines on ubuntu 14.04? | 14:30 |
| Madkiss | doesn't require more than Razor and PXE-bootable laptops :) | 14:30 |
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| jwwww | Madkiss: atm I use xen vms that read/write data on a nfs storage. since the data is getting big ( 4tb ) I'm looking for a scalable solution. | 14:30 |
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| gleam | for that matter you could do this the pure ubuntu way and use juju+maas using the trusty+icehouse charms | 14:30 |
| Madkiss | jwwww: again, Cinder is a way to facilitate pre-existing storages devices into block storages for VMs. | 14:30 |
| Evidenz | Madkiss i dont have it yet =) | 14:30 |
| Madkiss | Evidenz: setting up puppet takes like 10 minutes :P | 14:31 |
| gleam | of course then you're using juju+maas | 14:31 |
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| jwwww | Madkiss: I need to read some more docs, I must misunderstand things. | 14:35 |
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| Evidenz | Madkiss my goal is now to get neutron working and then I'll do the puppet deployment | 14:36 |
| Madkiss | Kickstack gets Neutron up for you automatically;) | 14:36 |
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| Madkiss | and for Neutron, you may consider https://www.hastexo.com/resources/hints-and-kinks/understanding-packet-flows-openstack-neutron helpful :) | 14:37 |
| Evidenz | thank you very much =) | 14:37 |
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| Madkiss | jwwww: you may want to look into ceph. | 14:40 |
| * Madkiss just built a 300tb cluster using 4 commodity servers. | 14:40 | |
| Madkiss | and actually, it has the oooomph that you need ;) | 14:40 |
| gleam | although you will also want to carefully read the warnings about cephfs high availability | 14:40 |
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| jwwww | I'm reading on it, thanks for the informations | 14:41 |
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| jwwww | Madkiss: you use that cluster for production ? I saw some warning on ceph homepage. | 14:43 |
| gleam | the object+block storage components of ceph don't have any warnings attached, which is what most people use w/openstack. it's the distributed filesystem (cephfs) bit that has it | 14:44 |
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| jwwww | gleam: too bad, it seems it's the part I need. | 14:46 |
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| mfisch | msg Sam-I-Am: | 14:46 |
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| mfisch | sorry about that fail ^ | 14:46 |
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| Madkiss | jwwww: about CephFS, ya. | 14:49 |
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| gleam | you can run multiple MDS daemons in active/standby and you can shard across multiple active MDS to achieve scalability | 14:51 |
| gleam | another option might be having pacemaker on your frontend nodes control an rbd mount in active/passive, but you don't get to scale your frontends that way | 14:51 |
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| jwwww | gleam: when you say multiple MDS, you mean like 1 per node ? or juste more than 1 ? | 14:53 |
| gleam | more than one, it shards the metadata | 14:53 |
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| Madkiss | that's called "Dynamic Subtree Partitioning", by the way. | 14:54 |
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| ekarlso- | wrong place. | 15:03 |
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| pscheie | I'm trying to extend the "disk" of a VM. | 15:58 |
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| pscheie | I've extended the partition, but the filesystem hasn't expanded accordingly. | 15:59 |
| pscheie | I'm using Centos 6 64-bit and KVM. | 15:59 |
| pscheie | How do I get the filesystem extended/to extend? | 15:59 |
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| jelly-home | pscheie: did you reboot? Is there LVM in use? | 16:01 |
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| pscheie | jelly-home, I did reboot the VM (I'd taken it down to extend the partition). No LVM though. | 16:02 |
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| pscheie | Partitions are ext4. | 16:02 |
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| jelly-home | pscheie: ah, in that case you just need to run resize2fs /dev/whateverpartition | 16:02 |
| jelly-home | pscheie: it can be mounted, growing is an online procedure | 16:03 |
| pscheie | jelly-home, within the VM? | 16:03 |
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| jelly-home | indeed | 16:03 |
| pscheie | cool! | 16:03 |
| jelly-home | if you'd set up the virtual disks and lvm properly, you'd be able to evade even that one reboot and do everything online | 16:04 |
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| pscheie | jelly-home, well, I thought I'd extended the partition, but looking at it within the VM, it's still the old size. | 16:13 |
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| pscheie | I used virt-resize to change the partition size; is that the preferred method or is there a better way? | 16:13 |
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| jelly-home | pscheie: does a partition editor within the VM show the new size now? | 16:14 |
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| pscheie | jelly-home, no. resize2fs failed saying the FS is already at max, so I ran fdisk and indeed, the partition is still the old small size. | 16:15 |
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| pscheie | I used http://libguestfs.org/virt-resize.1.html to resize the partition, or so I thought. | 16:16 |
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| pscheie | But I've noticed that doing things with virt-* doesn't always carry through into OS. | 16:16 |
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| pscheie | But since virt-resize is more of a KVM tool, perhaps there's a nova or cinder tool that would be better for resizing the partition. | 16:18 |
| pscheie | ? | 16:18 |
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| hay | I am stuck in a point where my instances get a private IP address and I can ping it from controller (I am using GRE), but every instance (I am trying with cirros and ubuntu img) stops in the process of booting as I can see in the console... cirros stops at wget: can't connect to remote host (169.254.169.254): Connection timed out... | 16:25 |
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| jelly-home | pscheie: "Virt-resize should not be used on live virtual machines - for consistent results, shut the virtual machine down before resizing it." | 16:45 |
| jelly-home | yeah, there's probably a higher level tool to do it | 16:46 |
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| pscheie | jelly-home, I have been shutting the vm down before resizing, so no problem there. | 16:46 |
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| pscheie | Although it raises the question of whether it should be shutdown using 'nova stop' or 'virsh shutdown' | 16:48 |
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| pscheie | If I use nova stop, the instance disappears from the compute node. | 16:49 |
| pscheie | So, I've been using virsh shutdown. | 16:49 |
| pscheie | But I wonder if that's not best practice, as OS seems to work better if one stays within its realm. | 16:50 |
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| hrzbrg | Hi, | 18:02 |
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| hrzbrg | I created a setup mostly along the official guide on the openstack website with 3 nodes. I can spawn instances and so far it works as expected, but how can I connect my instances to the internet. My thought process or neutron understanding are stuck^^ | 18:04 |
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| devoid | hrzbrg, debugging neutron is tough. Your best bet is to read through iptables, openvswitch (if that's what you're using) and use tcpdump as much as possible. Do your instances get IPs at the API / database level? | 18:23 |
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| devoid | hay, did someone answer your metadata issue? | 18:23 |
| hay | devoid, no, but it seems my current main issue is lack of the 'out-of-the-vm' communication, although I can ping it and ssh to it | 18:24 |
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| devoid | hay, in order for your VM to get through the cloud_init process, it needs to connect to the metadata server at 169.254.169.254, which should get routed to the neutron or nova metadata service process | 18:27 |
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| devoid | i think neutron still uses iptables to mangle that in the correct direction? I may be wrong on that. | 18:28 |
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| hrzbrg | devoid, network as such is not the problem. I think it is because the setup is in virtualbox. I have a host-only network which is the "data" network for the instances. somehow it just struck me, that I can not connect this host-only network to the outside world | 18:29 |
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| hay | devoid, my instance (CirrOS) tried to connect 30 times to metadata server and it stopped trying and then started sshd process so I could ssh to it. Now when I am connected to it, I am unable to ping default gateway from it although I can ping it from the outside... | 18:30 |
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| devoid | hrzbrg, yea you will have to bridge vbox. not sure how to do that. | 18:32 |
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| devoid | hay, yea you need to debug networking then. Tools: iptables, brctl, ovs-*, tcpdump | 18:33 |
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| hay | wow... thanks guys for ideas... I just moved further, created a new security group which obviously has egress rules added by default... now VM instance is getting 400 Bad Request when trying to pick up metadata :) | 18:35 |
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| devoid | hay, check the logs for the metadata services? | 18:42 |
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| hay | devoid, I can telnet to 169.254.169.254 80 from VM, but it's interesting to see that there is nothing in the metadata-agent log file... looks like nova-api has open port 8775 and then iptables rule translates it to 169:254:169.254:80 | 18:47 |
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| hay | devoid, in nova-api.log: INFO nova.metadata.wsgi.server [-] (5868) accepted ('10.0.0.6', 57053)... everything seems to be ok? | 18:49 |
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| devoid | possibly | 18:50 |
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| devoid | hay, mine forwards to an 8775 port on which nova-api-metadata is listening | 18:53 |
| devoid | nova-api-metadata != nova-api so you want to make sure those settings are correct | 18:53 |
| coredump | has anyone have a situation where lbass vips don't add a default gw? | 18:54 |
| hay | devoid, that seems to be the case on mine too... what bothers me are those requests getting message 400 back... INFO nova.metadata.wsgi.server [-] 10.0.0.6 "GET /2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id HTTP/1.1" status: 400 len: 212 | 18:54 |
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| devoid | hay, make sure that agent is configured to talk w/ keystone? set logging to DEBUG and see if you can't find more details? | 18:58 |
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| devoid | hay, also confirm that the L3 path back from the API server is working, which would explain the lack of response at the VM level. | 19:00 |
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| hay | even if I do wget from the controller wget "http://controller_ip:8775/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id/", I get 400 bad request back... is this 2009-04-04 the right path and should be available? | 19:02 |
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| devoid | hay, yes, although I think it will return 404 if you are coming from an unknown host (e.g. the controller) since it's trying to match that against the hosts in nova's database... | 19:08 |
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| devoid | e.g. 2014-04-18 14:07:53.955 12661 ERROR nova.api.metadata.handler [-] Failed to get metadata for ip: 127.0.0.1 | 19:09 |
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| hay | I see.. after reading through documentation it seems to be perfectly okay in my case to use nova-api for metadata.. port 8775 is open, I almost have no more ideas on where to check for those 400 bad request messages reasons... | 19:14 |
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| devoid | hay, well if your VM is not even getting the 404 back, there's a problem in the return path at L3 or L2 | 19:25 |
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| devoid | so I would reccomend running tcpdump at points along that path (e.g. the bridges) and find determine where it stops. | 19:26 |
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| hay | devoid, I see.. what's strange is when I connect to http://169.254.169.254 from VM, I get the index.html file that contains 1.0 and then dates in every line and then text latest on the last line so I think the communication actually works... | 19:32 |
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| hay | devoid, and the status of that message in nova-api.log is 200 which looks it works as it should... what bothers me is why all other paths cause error 400... | 19:35 |
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| devoid | yea, you should be able to do a GET against /2009-04-04 | 19:41 |
| devoid | from the VM and get the metadata | 19:41 |
| devoid | ^ hay | 19:42 |
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| hay | devoid, when calling the url http://controller:8775/2009-04-04, I get X-Instance-ID header is missing from request, which seems logical. now I need to get exact output error message for the call to http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04 from VM | 19:50 |
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| Pumpkin- | OpenStack Object Storage has a limit on the size of a single uploaded object; by default this is 5GB. | 21:36 |
| Pumpkin- | I can see a bunch of methods for manipulating larger objects than this (segmented objects), but if I have regularly to deal with objects that are slightly larger than 5GB | 21:37 |
| Pumpkin- | should I be doing this, or should I be looking at changing that default from 5GB to something else (say 10GB), and if so, how ? | 21:37 |
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| notmyname | Pumpkin-: you can change that in the swift.conf file (in /etc/swift) | 21:51 |
| notmyname | Pumpkin-: the reasons for keeping it at 5GB are (1) clients can have a hard time keeping the connection open for the whole time needed to upload the data and (2) the individual drive fullness can get off if the max object size is large | 21:53 |
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| MrCurious | is there a way to make disk space on a NAS appliance available for use via cinder volumes? | 22:43 |
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| MrCurious | scratch that. was googling for it inefficiently volume_driver=cinder.volume.nfs.NfsDriver | 22:45 |
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| MrCurious | i will be in the corner under this cone hat if anyone needs me | 22:45 |
| imcsk8 | hello, i'm having a problem installing neutron using the puppet module can somebody give me a hand? http://pastebin.com/RkgyGpgM | 22:45 |
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| jmickle | hey guys | 23:07 |
| jmickle | what do you guys use for inventory management and tracking in correlation to your kickstart? | 23:08 |
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| hogepodge | imcsk8 can you paste the code you’re working with that’s causing the error? | 23:11 |
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| Pumpkin- | notmyname: thanks for that. I think in my case uping the default to 10gig makes sense. | 23:19 |
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| Pumpkin- | I'm dealing with lots and lots of 7/8gig files, and won't have any problems with drive sizes | 23:19 |
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