Monday, 2014-04-28

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deanican we not configure keystone on the public ip eth0 interface00:52
deanion cenos00:52
deaniis there any firewall restrictions on by default o centos00:52
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deanii stopped the iptables service still I get "keystoneclient.exceptions.AuthorizationFailure: Authorization Failed: Unable to communicate with identity service: (503, 'Service Unavailable'). (HTTP 400)"00:54
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deaniafter unsetting the proxy user create is working01:09
deaniany ideas how to keep the proxy01:09
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Xelenonzif I upgrade ram in node machine from 4GB->8GB. how can controller machine update ram value in node machine?02:21
Xelenonzit's still not update yet :'(02:22
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MattAitchison_dll- You have to setup a few things in the neutron config file.02:40
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MattAitchison_dll- http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-ml2-controller-node.html02:41
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MrCuriousspent all day perfecting an apache allura install script for openstak vm creation, then ran into a wall getting the git server to work for it.04:37
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nmghi,everyone ,how to config neutron to get ips from external physical router?04:44
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hackoo Does OpenStack even expose an ability to input placement choices ? Can we choose the host/cluster for VM placement ?05:11
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kiwigeraintyes05:12
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kiwigeraint--availability-zone az:node05:12
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hackoothanks kiwigeraint . So in this way we can create affinity and anti-affinity groups in OpenStack.05:17
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kiwigeraintI think you might be looking for this : http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/host-aggregates.html05:19
hackookiwigeraint: Yes.. That would be fine.05:19
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ak5hi everyone05:34
ak5I have a couple high level questions about openstack - I am wondering if it can fulfill my needs for setting up a sort of internal hosting provider for our company. Normally, we would just pay a cloud provider, but we are looking to move away from Aliyun which is like AWS in China (just sucks a lot more). Because of the landscape in China, especially the GFW and ICP license requirements, I thought it may05:37
ak5be viable to use openstack in house.05:37
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ak5Does anyone have any thoughts on this?05:37
ak5Basically, I just need to be able to fire up instances for the different users and manage them05:38
kiwigeraintyes05:38
kiwigeraintis the simple answer :)05:38
ak5huh, ok05:39
ak5:)05:39
kiwigeraintbut - to get to the level of availability/stability you see on AWS you will have to spend a lot.05:39
ak5kiwigeraint: Can I use nova to provision ec2 instances? That way I could spin up instances in other regions outside of my own datacenter, which would be nice05:40
kiwigeraintNo - but the tooling you will probably have in fron of nova can05:40
ak5kiwigeraint: when you say spend do you mean time, money or both?05:40
kiwigeraintPuppet/Chef/Salt ETC all can05:40
kiwigeraintboth.05:40
kiwigeraintwith AWS your renting their experience as much as anything else05:41
ak5yeh expected that05:41
ak5I keep on reading about AWS compatibility, what does thta mean exactly? Are people running openstack on AWS?05:42
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kiwigeraintit is compatible in many ways05:43
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kiwigeraintOpenstack provides the AWS API as a compatibility layer05:43
kiwigeraintso it can work with AWS tools05:43
kiwigeraintnot the other way round05:43
kiwigerainti think - I could be wrong, we moved completely away from AWS so have no reason to find out05:44
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ak5kiwigeraint: so you are running your own hardware?05:44
kiwigeraintbut to be honest, you should put that logic into your provisioning layer (Chef etc)05:44
kiwigeraintYes05:44
ak5kiwigeraint: I haven't done the math yet, can you give me a ballpark what you spent and what you got?05:45
kiwigeraintWe have spent around $200k so far05:45
kiwigeraint22 Compute nodes - 128gb RAM, 2 x Hex Core Xeon, 10gbe05:46
kiwigeraint8 Storage nodes - between 8 and 24 3tb Disk in each (total is 280TB), Dual quad xeon, 10gbe, Fusion IO SSD's (One in each) - these are also our controller nodes05:48
kiwigeraint3 Network nodes - nothing special, dual quad, 16gb RAM, Multiple 10gbe05:48
kiwigeraint2 x Used Cisco Nexus 5020 Switches05:48
kiwigeraint2 x Cisco nexus FEX (One SFP+ and one Copper)05:49
kiwigeraintwe have ~150 Instances on there05:49
kiwigeraintwith around 60% capacity remaining05:49
ak5woah05:49
ak5sounds legit :D05:49
kiwigeraintI wouldnt wanna look at openstack if your needs are < 100 instances05:49
kiwigeraintif your in that area, save yourself the hassle and go for XenServer or VMWare :)05:50
ak5ok05:50
kiwigerainthow many instances are you looking at ?05:50
ak5that's some solid advice, I will definitely check that out05:50
ak5no more than 50-7005:50
kiwigeraintare they mostly solid state ?05:51
kiwigeraintsorry05:51
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kiwigeraintare they mostly steady state ?05:51
kiwigeraintor do you destroy/create instances a lot ?05:51
ak5when you say steady, you mean that they are not changing much?05:51
ak5if so, yes05:51
ersiand stay powered on, at long intervals05:51
kiwigeraintyeah - then one of the "Enterprise" virtualization techs will probably be a better fit05:52
ak5I would say 10-20 would be highly dynamic, for our internal testing services05:52
kiwigeraintyou could likely do something like VMWare on 3 severs for < $20k05:52
kiwigeraintand save a lot of learning05:52
ak5I was actually excited about the learning part haha05:53
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kiwigeraintplus staff with vmware experience are a lot easier to find than OS :)05:53
ak5but I will definitely see if vmware or similar is a better match05:53
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ak5kiwigeraint: thanks, this helped a lot06:04
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MattAitchison_Hi, I am getting the following error when trying to launch a new ubuntu instance. Error during following call to agent: ['ovs-vsctl', '--timeout=120', 'del-port', 'br-int', u'qvo627a7e9f-2e']07:20
MattAitchison_Does anyone have any idea what it could be?07:20
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sparky43786MattAitchison_: is the sudo setup right for the nova user?  is that command a sudo command?07:28
sparky43786MattAitchison_: also sometimes that's the last error when it's trying to delete a port that didn't get connected so you have to look back in the log file07:28
MattAitchison_sparky43786 Here is my sudoers file  https://gist.github.com/MattAitchison/ba6046ca3285000801e9#file-sudoers07:30
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MattAitchison_Which log file should that show up in?07:30
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MattAitchison_Also I don't get that error with the cirros test image.07:31
sparky43786in the neutron and nova logs07:31
sparky43786that cirros test image works gooood07:31
MattAitchison_openvswitch-agent.log?07:31
sparky43786maybe.. but in the -api logs too07:32
sparky43786you can grep for ERR and such..07:32
MattAitchison_hmmm I cant find anything07:32
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MattAitchison_There we go. Its in the nova compute log07:33
sparky43786how do you turn up the time out when you are doing a iscsi volume create and instance start07:34
MattAitchison_Lol this may be part of it.07:34
sparky43786i get the failed instance.. then three minutes later the volume is ready07:34
MattAitchison_"Error: Flavor's disk is too small for requested image."07:34
sparky43786i've seen that one07:34
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MattAitchison_I added the errors I get to that GIST07:35
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MattAitchison_sparky43786 The instance starts up when I use a larger disk size07:43
sparky43786MattAitchison_: right on!07:43
MattAitchison_Ubuntu is a little too big for a 1gb disk :P07:43
MattAitchison_Do you know how to setup public floating IPs?07:44
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sparky43786MattAitchison_: once you have the network setup they pretty much just happen08:13
MattAitchison_Well i have no clue how to setup my routing so that my network node is able to use the public IPs08:13
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sparky43786MattAitchison_: I'm too tired to go into it, but check out the network troubleshooting page08:14
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MattAitchison_okay, Thanks08:14
sparky43786http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/network_troubleshooting.html08:15
sparky43786if you understand that.. you'll get it08:15
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admin0hi all .. after login to openstack dashboard ( icehouse ) , it tries to go to /dashboard / but gives a 404 saying there is no dashboard ..   when I change the url to /admin/ it works08:17
admin0is this a new behaviour in icehouse .. same settings in havana was working fine08:17
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rotbeardhi folks, can't get it now but is there a _openstack-status_ in ubuntu like in redhat/centos?09:50
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jamespagefifieldt, thanks for the bug reports re trove09:57
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fifieldtno worries09:58
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fifieldtAssume you're crazy busy with 14.04 newness, so held off before pinging again :)09:58
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deepakcssdague, hi, whats the right way to install tox-epep8  ?10:20
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sdaguedeepakcs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Testing10:31
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deepakcssdague, thanks10:32
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deepakcssdague, looking at that link, its advised to install tox < 1.7, whcih i did.. and running tox -pep8 take quite some time and then fails w/ some gcc .h error...10:51
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deepakcssdague, wondering if there is some known issue here or its only me seeing it10:51
sdaguedeepakcs: then you need to resolve that10:51
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deepakcssdague, gcc is installed :)10:52
sdaguebecause some of the hacking tests include import checking, you have to have all the requirements10:52
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deepakcssdague, http://fpaste.org/97386/ - wondering if u can figure whats the issue ?10:53
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sdaguemysql.c:44:23: fatal error: my_config.h: No such file or directory10:53
sdague10:53
sdague #include "my_config.h"10:53
sdagueyes, you don't have mysql headers installed10:53
deepakcssdague, ah so i need -develpkg ?10:53
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sdagueyes10:53
deepakcssdague, got it.. didn't realise it before!10:53
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deepakcssdague, i think i need to install mariadb-devel, as devstack uses that10:55
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hackooHi.. I was looking for Affinity and AntiAffinity in OpenStack and found a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/instance-group-api-extension . Is this functionality available in Icehouse ?11:36
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MattAitchison_Should I get the following error whenever I boot a ubuntu instance? 'util.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [51/120s]: http error [500]'12:32
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dmitrymeMattAitchison_: you see the error in the instance log, right?12:36
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MattAitchison_Yup12:37
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dmitrymecan you log into the instance with the key pair you specified while starting the instance?12:37
MattAitchison_I haven't tried that yet12:38
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dmitrymetry that. It could happen that instance didn't get the key pair from the metadata server12:38
MattAitchison_Okay, Ill try that.12:39
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MattAitchison_I'm guessing that would also come up if I don't have enable_isolated_metadata in the dhcp_agent.ini file correct?12:39
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dmitrymeI am not familiar with the details of networking configuration, I just suggest to check if metadata server works in general12:45
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dmitrymeit could be that only instance-id url responds with 500, while others work fine12:45
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dmitrymeothers, like the one which gives key pair certificate to the instance12:46
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MattAitchison_okay, Thanks12:46
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MattAitchison_do you know if cinder can use the same lvm volume group that the OS uses?12:47
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dmitrymenot sure, I but I hardly see how this can be linked with the metadata server malfunction12:51
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MattAitchison_dmitryme That was for a different issue I am having.13:09
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MattAitchison_I am currently getting the following error when I try to create a cinder volume. "Caught error: owner "13:09
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Nils__Hello, i am installing openstack on debian for the first time. I have problems using keystone user-list. This command takes about 30 seconds and then only prints out 'No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.httpclient"'. But in my mysql there is a user in table user. Any idear?13:12
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dmitrymeMattAitchison_: I see, nope, I don't know about that13:13
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MattAitchison_Hmm. It seems to work for the admin user from the cli but not from a different user from the dashboard13:14
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is_nullhi all, i found a security issue in havana, according to glance docs on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/glanceapi.html "Note Use of the is_public parameter is restricted to admin users. For all other users it will be ignored.". I have just tested on several of our havana installations including my local one and every user is able to upload images and set them as public, in that case other users do see that image. Seems like13:47
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pedroalvarezHi! which one is the best distribution to install Devstack? I had problems installing icehouse in debian. so I wonder if I should pick another different.13:48
pedroalvarezand, is Icehouse stable enough?13:48
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is_nullicehouse was not released as stable yet13:48
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pedroalvarezis_null: there is a branch in the devstack repo called "stable/icehouse"13:50
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is_nulloops, thanks, i was refering to https://github.com/openstack/openstack branches13:51
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Sam-I-Ampedroalvarez: ubuntu is the best supported distro, imho13:57
pedroalvarezthanks Sam-I-Am13:58
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is_nulli reproduced this on devstack havana, so potentially a malicious user could upload an image of say ubuntu with a backdoor and by giving it a credible name like "Ubuntu-server 14.04 LTS" it could make another user install it and use it ....14:01
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pedroalvarezSam-I-Am: does it has to be Ubunto 12.04?14:08
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Sam-I-Amboth 12.04 and 14.04 support icehouse14:08
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Sam-I-Ami would try 14.04 unless you have a specific reason to use 12.0414:08
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BogdanRI am trying to do a "nova image-list" and I get an "Unauthorized" error. "glance image-list" works just fine. Is there something else that needs to be running from nova besides nova-api ?14:18
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Sam-I-Amsounds like nova isnt authenticating right14:19
Sam-I-Amprobably a config error14:19
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Sam-I-Ameither in nova.conf, or an endpoint/creds error in keystone14:20
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BogdanRSam-I-Am: Most likely, but how can I debug that?14:20
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Sam-I-Amcheck the nova logs14:21
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Sam-I-Amits probably complaining about keystone14:21
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BogdanRMaybe the endpoint doesn't look right: http://hastebin.com/raw/cipiwitaha ?14:22
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Sam-I-Amthat looks ok, assuming its all on the same host14:22
BogdanRShould the URL have %(tenant_id)s or it shold actually have IDs ?14:22
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Sam-I-Amit needs to have the variable there14:23
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BogdanRIn the nova-api logs I have this: http://hastebin.com/febefocoqi.py14:23
Sam-I-Amhow did you install this?14:24
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BogdanRpython setup.py install14:24
Sam-I-Amcheck your [keystone_authtoken] section and 'auth_strategy = keystone' in nova.conf14:24
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Sam-I-Aminstalling from source?14:24
BogdanRYes14:24
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Sam-I-Amany reason for that?14:25
BogdanRI have that in there14:25
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BogdanRI want to package it for a distro14:25
Sam-I-Amare you following the installation guide for config?14:25
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BogdanRYep14:26
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BogdanROmmiting comments, my config looks like this: http://hastebin.com/ipiyopevev.ini14:26
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Sam-I-Amtry putting 'auth_protocol = http' under [keystone_authtoken]14:28
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Sam-I-Amand auth_port = 3535714:28
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit downtime for upgrade begins in 90 minutes. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritUpgrade14:30
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Nils__I get the following error with keystone: 'No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.httpclient"'. Does anyone know how to add a handler for this logger?14:31
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BogdanRSam-I-Am: That didn't do it, but I think it can be possible admin_password got messed in the process. How can I retrieve the password from keystone?14:32
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Sam-I-Amyou can't retrieve it, but you can reset it14:32
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Sam-I-Amthere's a password for the nova account14:33
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BogdanRSam-I-Am: How do I reset, because adding it again doesn't do it: hastebin.com/vojogabuta14:37
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gmiBogdanR:use the admin token defined in keystone.conf to authenticate and reset the admin password14:38
BogdanRI deleted and managed to add it. That also didn't do it14:38
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snewpyi have a strange problem where some of my VMs sending tcp RST packets for closed ports between two VMs on the same tenant network are being marked as INVALID by the compute node's network stack... I can see the valid rst packet leaving the guest's nic and reaching the bridge, and then it gets dropped by iptables as invalid.. any ideas?14:39
BogdanRgmi: So I am not doing what I should because this was generated fresh14:40
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BogdanRgmi: I got the token from the keystone config file and that also didn't do it14:43
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BogdanRWhen I start the nova-api I get this message; http://hastebin.com/epavuzakay.avrasm14:43
BogdanRCould it be related?14:43
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Sam-I-Amcould be part of it14:47
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Sam-I-Amdo you have two of those defined?14:47
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Sam-I-Amshould be 'rabbit' if you're using rabbit14:47
Sam-I-Amor qpid for qpid14:47
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gmiBogdanR: that message is a warning so it shouldn't be critical, but I'm not sure where your problems start: the fact that  "glance image-list" works just fine means that glance is working as well as keystone; because "nova image-list" gives "Unauthorized" error it means that Nova is missconfigured to authenticate tokens through keystone, and on top of that you cannot now authenticate as an admin to Keystone because the admin pas14:51
gmisword is wrong and you don't know how to reset it. Did I get these right?14:51
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gmiBogdarR: to authenticate using the Admin token, use the instructions here (http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-users.html) but make sure you first restart the keystone service and there are no errors in its logs; the restart is needed to make sure Keystone uses the admin_token = ADMIN_TOKEN defined in keystone.conf14:55
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Sam-I-Amafter that, each service should be using its own credentials14:55
Sam-I-Amthe admin_token is just to bootstrap the first keystone stuff14:56
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gmiBogdarR: yes, after you manage to reset the password for the admin user you can create separate accounts for nova, glance, cinder, neutron and give them the admin role in the "service" tenant and put the nova user's credentials in nova.conf14:59
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ShooterMcGGood morning folks.  I have a quick question about Openstack/CEPH integration.  Is the best approach to simply give compute nodes direct access tot he CEPH cluster, and have them interact witht he storage as thoug it were local, OR is it worth presenting CEPH to the stack via a cinder-volume service (acting as a gateway)?15:08
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foxx_prixHello OpenStackers15:13
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foxx_prixWhen following the guide 'OpenStack Installation Guide for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, CentOS, and Fedora  - icehouse' I attempt to create a network with 'neutron net-create ext-net --shared --router:external=True'.  However I get Connection to neutron failed: [Errno 111] Connection refused15:15
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foxx_prixAnyone have a few minutes to help troubleshoot?15:15
foxx_prixneutron.conf http://paste.openstack.org/raw/77459/15:15
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Sam-I-Amneutron-server isn't listening for some reason15:18
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foxx_prixSam-I-Am: Yes, it's actually failing to start15:19
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Sam-I-Amdoes it say why?15:20
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foxx_prixSam-I-Am: negative  nothing in /var/log/server.log15:21
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Sam-I-Amit would be in /var/log/neutron/server.log15:22
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Sam-I-Amdid you set the symlink for plugin.ini ?15:22
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Sam-I-Amneutron-server wont start without it15:22
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foxx_prixSam-I-Am: Yes ( ln -s plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini /etc/neutron/plugin.ini)15:23
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foxx_prixSam-I-Am: Correct log /var/log/neutron/server.log blank15:23
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Sam-I-Amsomething is horribly wrong with your system15:24
foxx_prixSam-I-Am: Documentation is not very clear when it gets to Neutron  piece15:24
Sam-I-Amthe documentation is fine15:24
Sam-I-Ami wrote it15:24
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Sam-I-Amits been tested plenty of times15:24
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Sam-I-Ami would try starting neutron-server manually15:25
foxx_prixSam-I-Am: in the 'Configure controller node' section.... Should everything on this page be done on the controller?15:26
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Sam-I-Amthere's a chance its missing some sort of dependency.15:26
fandihi all, how does it going if we not apply stp port edge on  access switch on openstack ?15:26
Sam-I-Amdid you install python-novaclient on the controller?15:26
Sam-I-Amthere have been issues with dependencies on the RDO packages15:26
Sam-I-Amfoxx_prix: yes. the chapter is split into the 3 nodes.15:26
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foxx_prixPackage 1:python-novaclient-2.17.0-1.el6.noarch already installed and latest version15:28
foxx_prixNothing to do15:28
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Sam-I-Amok, thats good15:28
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit downtime for upgrade begins in 30 minutes. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritUpgrade15:30
Sam-I-Amtry starting neutron-server manually15:30
foxx_prixbtw: /etc/init.d/neutron-server  start fails to start manually.  Debugged with -x and I'm seeing a exitcode of 615:30
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Sam-I-Amjust run 'neutron-server --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugin.ini'15:31
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foxx_prixraise ConfigFilesNotFoundError(self._namespace.files_not_found)15:33
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foxx_prixsorry typo in my file name.  standby15:34
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foxx_prixSam-I-Am: Found a dead link plugin.ini -> /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.in15:39
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Sam-I-Amthere's a note in the install guide to fix that15:40
Sam-I-Amor... set it.15:40
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Sam-I-Amnot sure why yours was pointing to ovs15:40
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coredumpguys, instance disks still being mounted via iscsi right?15:42
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coredumpI have some instances not finding its boot disks15:42
coredumpideas on how to debug this?15:42
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Diplomatguys can you tell me or pm me places where i could purchase/download images for OS ?15:53
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dll-hmm, can I assign a floating IP on two VMs ? I'd like to do CARP15:55
dll-(or is there is a way to do something like carp on openstack?)15:55
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pedroalvarezI wonder why I can't create volumes in my OpenStack15:59
pedroalvarezAlso I wonder how to debug it15:59
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coredumpI am getting permission denied on my shared instance storage. The commands are ran as the nova user right? Or libvirtd uses someething else?16:27
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Diplomatguys16:33
Diplomatwhere are OS images ? in which folder16:33
Diplomati somehow can't find any16:33
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dll-Diplomat: /var/lib/glance/images ?16:34
Diplomatyup there16:34
Diplomatthanks16:34
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mwoodsoni have multiple controller nodes and I am using pki tokens with keystone.16:52
mwoodsonwhat files do i need to sync across the nodes?16:52
mwoodsoni think they are in /etc/keystone/ssl/?16:52
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Diplomatguy, i have this network problem: http://puu.sh/8r5r2.png any ideas what might be wrong ?17:04
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coredumphow can I check under what user the commands are being ran?17:22
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gmicoredump:what commands?17:24
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coredump2014-04-28 17:22:10.880 3452 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 124f955b-944f-472e-98a8-771f0a0485f0] open /data/nova/instances/124f955b-944f-472e-98a8-771f0a0485f0/console.log: Permission denied17:25
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gmicoredump: which log file is that?17:26
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coredumpnova compute17:26
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gmicoredump:that's a trace and I think there should be a request ID at the beginning of the trace17:27
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coredumpgmi https://gist.github.com/coredump/609719063ae9f0b1cae817:31
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DiplomatGuys, can you please check why it fails: http://pastebin.com/HrSE7RJw17:36
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gmicoredump: I thought you were referring to a keystone user running a command through the API, but it seems you're issue is with the system user spinning up VMs in kvm17:54
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coredumpsooo17:55
coredumpI thjink it's apparmor blocking it?17:55
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coredumpdoes that make sense?17:55
coredumptype=1400 audit(1398707488.920:98): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=7976 profile="/usr/lib/libvirt/virt-aa-helper" name="/data/nova/instances/_base/43efc07d04845c552031b87a923da5a13dc67faa" pid=9418 comm="virt-aa-helper" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=11417:55
gmicoredump:it looks like it17:56
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coredumphow do I turn this off17:59
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coredumpnope, still permission denied18:11
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reazemWhere can I find the source of the openstack cloud administrator guide?18:20
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coredumpjoin #glusterfs18:24
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ctooleyLemme try this with a wider audience….  I am still unable to determine why I'm getting "Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed"18:26
jmicklehi what CMDB’s do you guys use?18:26
ctooleyExcel? :-)18:27
jmickleman18:27
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jmicklethis is like the hardest problem to solve18:27
ctooleyjmickle: Do you mean a full blown CMDB system with inventory and such or do you mean a CMS like Chef?18:27
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jmicklewell essentially you need to track a server and be able to put that server into kickstart mode to determine if its say an openstack box18:28
jmickleright?18:28
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jmicklethink of the problem someone unboxes physical server, racks it18:28
jmicklecreates an asset18:29
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jmickleand then from there you should be able to track it/kickstart it etc18:29
jmickleright18:29
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ctooleyRight. So an actual CMDB. I haven't found any that don't suck… a lot.18:29
jmickleyeah the problem im having18:29
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jmicklecollin’s from tumblr is pretty cool but its very premature18:30
ctooleyI hope you immature… :-)18:30
jmickle:-)18:30
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zulanyone have an idea for a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1299517 since I cant find any documentation about it18:31
jmicklectooley: so no reccomendations?18:31
jmickleor am i approaching it wrong18:31
jmicklectooley: have you looked at ralph? curious what your thoughts are18:32
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ctooleyI think I'm going to start with OpenNMS and integrate OpenCMDB18:32
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jmicklehmm18:33
jmicklestill seems so much more complex then it needs to be though18:33
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ctooleyThis vif_type binding failed error is eating my lunch. I can't find shit on it.18:33
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jrwrenbuild your own CMDB18:37
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Sam-I-Amctooley: what distro/release?18:42
ctooleyRHEL/Icehouse18:42
Sam-I-Amctooley: neutron?18:42
ctooleyYeah18:42
ctooleyGRE18:42
Sam-I-Amusing the install guide?18:42
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ctooleyyeah18:42
ctooleyML2 plugin, OpenVSwitch mechanism driver,18:43
Sam-I-Amfirst thing to look for is config errors. stuff under the wrong header, usually.18:43
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Sam-I-Amalso, the ml2 config file incorrectly has "mechanism driver" instead of "mechanism_driver" for one of the examples18:44
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Sam-I-Amand there's a workaround in the neutron openvswitch agent startup script18:44
ctooleythere's a space in my plugin.ini18:44
ctooleyI fixed the startup script.18:44
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Sam-I-Amit should be "mechanism_driver"18:46
Diplomatif OS had a neck, i'd break it.. damn thing does whatever it wants tod o18:47
ctooleywow… I can't believe I missed that. Instance spun right up.18:47
ctooleyStill can't hit it's external network interface though. :-(18:47
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Sam-I-Amhmm, wonder if i should add a note to make sure people use the "_"18:49
Sam-I-Amthe bug was fixed upstream, but redhat didn't package it18:49
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Diplomatthis is weird as hell, i can set network to "shared", but when i try to remove that checkbox it says "error: failed to update network"18:49
Diplomatwtf18:49
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Diplomatsuch fun, now i cant delete my networks18:51
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Sam-I-Amare you the correct user/tenant?18:52
Diplomatim admin yes18:52
Diplomatsomethign is very wrong with that network thing.. i tried to add a network block + router and it didnt give any ips out like.. none18:53
Diplomatand now it gives me that kind of errors :D18:53
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Diplomatand worst thing is that you cant find help from anywhere, crazy :/18:54
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Sam-I-Am'network thing' ?18:55
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Sam-I-Amctooley: can you ping the local gateway from your vm?18:55
ctooleyCan't log into the VM without a ssh key18:56
Diplomatnetwork thing.. i dont know.. network thing lol18:56
Diplomatwhen you log in to dashboard and then create a network add ip and subnet n shit18:56
Diplomati dont remember how it is called18:56
jsidhuneutron?18:56
Sam-I-Amctooley: which vm? i would use cirros for testing.18:56
ctooleyDownloading it now.18:57
Sam-I-Amit has a regular user/pass in addition to ssh keys18:57
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dll-hi, how can I use CARP in openstack?18:58
ctooleytrying it out. Thank you for the help Sam-I-Am18:59
Diplomati cant understand why i cant modify or delete my networks18:59
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Diplomatand it has the best error message too : Error: Failed to delete network d99fb1dd-e831-4803-bb95-1b7b349818ee18:59
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Sam-I-Ammust be some sort of permissions issue19:01
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Sam-I-Amor auth issue19:01
ctooleySam-I-Am: Can I not log in directly to this console?19:01
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Sam-I-Amyou should be able to19:02
Sam-I-Amonce you get the vnc console to the vm19:02
Sam-I-Amif it can't get an IP, it will sit and hang for a while until the dhcp process times out19:02
ctooleySays something about further messages being written to ttyS019:02
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ctooleyhmmm the vm didn't get an address. That's bad.19:04
ctooleyIn the admin console there are some assigned to it.19:04
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Diplomatany ideas why ports can be down ?19:04
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: nothing connected to them?19:05
Sam-I-Amctooley: see if you can assign an ip manually within the vm19:05
Sam-I-Amalso see if 'ip netns' shows anything on the network node19:06
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Diplomatwell.. what i did was... set up a network.. added subnet and then i added router and router says that port is down19:06
Diplomatnetwork:router_gateway19:06
Diplomatis down19:06
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Sam-I-Amdo the networks around your environment work?19:10
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Diplomathttp://screencast.com/t/ngO0FZNa19:11
Diplomatshould it be like this ?19:11
Diplomatand yes all the ips work19:11
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snewpyI need some help with a sanity check before filing a bug, I think that neutron creates iptables rules for security groups in an incorrect order that blocks RST packets from related connections as invalid19:12
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snewpyneutron creates firstly an iptables rule -m state --state INVALID -j DROP and *then* a rule -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j RETURN19:13
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snewpybut i think this should always be the other way around, otherwise netfilter rejects packets which would be valid if checked as being related first19:14
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Sam-I-Amsnewpy: how are you testing this, and on what release?19:15
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: were you using the installation guide to set all this up?19:16
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DiplomatI used RDO19:16
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snewpySam-I-Am: icehouse from ubuntu 14.04... i have two VMs with the default security group plus an extra port added (5432 for postgres)19:16
snewpywhen something is listening on 5432, it correctly allows traffic to that port19:16
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snewpyif the vm stops listening on that port, attempts to connect to the port time out, because the RST packet gets blocked by the INVALID rule for other VM's iptables rules... it would be matched by the RELATED rule if it were before the INVALID rule19:17
Sam-I-Amso the rst packets aren't escaping the VM back to the host trying to contact it?19:18
snewpyno, they get to the host, but are then rejected by the iptables rules on the receiving VM (on the same tenant network)19:18
snewpysorry, an iptables rule on the host *for* the receiving VM19:19
Diplomatcloud-init start-local running: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:20:01 +0000. up 3.60 seconds19:20
Diplomatno instance data found in start-local19:20
Diplomatcloud-init-nonet waiting 120 seconds for a network device.19:20
* Sam-I-Am has trouble with this...19:20
Sam-I-Amso19:20
Diplomatand now it fails..19:20
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Diplomathttp://puu.sh/8rffs.png but those things are not down anymore19:21
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Sam-I-Amrdo as in... packstack automation, or just the packages?19:23
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Diplomathttp://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart this19:23
mwoodsoni don't think my floating ips are being released properly. they are still reserved by the tenant even if there is no instance associated with them19:24
mwoodsonis there a command to free these?19:25
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: ah, yeah... with neutron/ml2?19:26
Diplomatneutron i guess19:26
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Diplomatyeah19:26
Sam-I-Ammwoodson: they're usually created under the tenant19:26
Diplomati dont get it why it doesnt give ips to the server, but ip is assigned19:27
mwoodsonSam-I-Am: and if the instance gets  removed, the ip stays associated with the tenant?19:27
snewpySam-I-Am: actually, it's not the order of the rules... if I remove the INVALID rule all together, or change the action from DROP to LOG, then the RST passes from vm1 to vm219:27
Sam-I-Ammwoodson: wasnt the floating ip created under the tenant?19:27
Sam-I-Amit should be un-associated with instance that was deleted though19:27
mwoodsonit was, but now that ip doesn't seem to be available outside of that tenant19:27
mwoodsononce the instnace is removed19:28
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Sam-I-Amwas it up for grabs by any tenant before?19:28
mwoodsonyes19:28
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Sam-I-Aminteresting19:29
Sam-I-Ami dont know why its doing that19:29
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Diplomathm i think maybe it fails because host server uses the same ip lol19:33
Sam-I-Amhaha19:33
Diplomati need to figure out how to take a next ip19:33
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Diplomatnope19:36
Diplomatfails again19:36
Diplomat:|19:36
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Diplomatand now.. router is down19:38
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Diplomati just dont understand.. this is crazy19:43
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Sam-I-Amis this an all-in-one box?19:45
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Diplomatwhat do you mean19:46
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Sam-I-Amthe rdo quickstart typically installs everything on one box19:47
Sam-I-Amrather than multiple nodes19:47
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Diplomatyeah19:48
Diplomat1 node only19:48
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Diplomatand AIO yes19:48
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Diplomatyup fails again :S19:50
Diplomatgetting tired of this bs already19:51
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Sam-I-Amwell, rdo packstack really isnt an awesome example of openstack working19:54
Sam-I-Amneutron with a single node and single NIC is tricky19:54
Sam-I-Amespecially if your physical network is limited19:54
Diplomatsoo.. you are saying that i should get another server up and running ?19:55
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Diplomatand manually install OS ?19:55
Sam-I-Amwhat is your goal?19:55
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Sam-I-Amplaying around, testing for production, etc?19:55
Diplomattesting for production19:55
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Sam-I-Amyou might be best off with a manual install then19:56
Sam-I-Ammainly because it will reflect more of what you see in production (separate nodes) and you get a better idea of what all of the services do and how they interact with each other19:57
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Sam-I-Amrdo/AIO is a good proof-of-concept to see what things look like (if you can get it working)19:58
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jmicklectooley: you still around?20:05
ctooleyYeah… just got back actually20:05
jmicklesame haha20:05
jmickleanyways just wanted to say thanks for your input on the cmdb20:06
ctooleySam-I-Am, assigned an IP to the VM and it can't hit anything.20:06
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ctooleyno problem.20:06
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jmicklei’ve hit a brick wall on this problem and not sure how to get past20:06
jmickle:-/20:06
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jmickleim trying to avoid writing something20:06
ctooleyThe CMDB?20:06
jmickleyeah20:06
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jmicklei feel like writing yet another CMDB is a bad idea20:06
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ctooleyPick the simplest open source one you can find and use it as a base instead of starting from scratch.20:06
jmickleyeah that was my thoughts as well20:07
jmickledid you have any thoughts on ralph?20:07
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ctooleyNone of them are really going to fit your needs exactly20:07
ctooleyNo, haven't looked at it honestly.20:07
jmicklei think the biggest problem we have is that not every node in our infrastructure is a openstack master20:07
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jmicklebut all nodes should be accessible via some cmdb solution20:07
jmickleright?20:07
jmickleor is that the wrong way of thinking20:07
ctooleyUhhh, why would the CMDB make the accessible?20:08
jmicklejust for search/data20:08
ctooleyah, yes, that would be the idea.20:08
Sam-I-Amctooley: hmm, guess you have a problem somewhere.20:09
ctooleySam-I-Am: Well… that is a true statement. :-)20:09
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ctooleyI have a lot of problems. I'm hoping this one is solvable in a reasonable amount of time.20:10
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Sam-I-Amassuming your physical networks are in proper order, its probably a config issue20:12
guimalufhey guys, how can I update my swift ring to use two regions? should I remove and add the same node or can I only update the ring and push to all storages?20:12
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ctooleyI've only got one physical network at the moment.20:14
ctooleyAnd one box for that matter.20:14
Sam-I-Amso you're trying to make this all work on a single system?20:14
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ctooleyto start with, I've got more boxes but thought it'd be easier to on just one to start with.20:14
Diplomatok..20:15
DiplomatI'll install it manually :/20:15
Diplomatbut i still wonder what's wrong and why it fails20:15
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Sam-I-Amctooley: the install guide suggests (and follows) 3 nodes with neutron because its easier to configure and debug, especially for first timers20:17
Sam-I-Ammany people build those nodes as VMs on one physical box20:17
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ctooleyhmmm that might be an issue… we're really hoping to be able to do all this on a single host at some point.20:18
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Sam-I-Amfor production?20:19
Sam-I-Amyou can do it all on one, its just a pain to troubleshoot where all the network stuff is going20:20
guimalufif I've a working swift infrastructure and I want to split that infra in regions, should I remove and add nodes with the new region or there is anyway to update that node on my ring?20:20
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notmynameguimaluf: you can use set_info to change the region of an existing node. if you do it that way or if you remove+add the nodes, note that rebalancing will move data across your WAN and should be done gradually (ie by managing weights) if you need to ensure availability of your data20:26
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Diplomatbut weird thing was.. last time when I used 2 machines RDO worked well :/20:26
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ctooleyWe want to be able to stamp out a scalable environment-in-a-box20:30
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Sam-I-Amctooley: interesting. whats this for?20:30
ctooleyAnd then expand the solution as needed.20:30
ctooleyNDA wall20:30
Sam-I-Amwith openstack, the only thing that really needs to scale is compute node20:31
ctooleyCompute and storage20:31
ctooleyAnd at some point redundancy of services.20:31
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Diplomatguys do you know any good resources that teach openstack little bit more?20:32
Sam-I-Amctooley: yeah20:32
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Sam-I-Ami forgot about storage :)20:33
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ctooleySo, start with packstack --all-in-one and hope for the best?20:35
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Sam-I-Amctooley: packstack will mostly tell you how to run everything as an all-in-one20:37
Diplomatsarcasm has never helped anybody20:38
Sam-I-Ambut it might not work exactly how you want it the first time20:38
ctooleyDiplomat: Was someone being sarcastic to you?20:38
Diplomatjust saying :)20:38
Diplomatjust a stupid question.. this compute node.. it's pretty much powerful CPU and that's it ?20:39
Diplomatsome ram too20:39
guimalufnotmyname, hmmm set_info looks interesting. and afterward should I rebalance and push the ring to all storages or let swift write_ring?20:39
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: and sometimes storage20:39
notmynameguimaluf: if you are changing the regions, you'll definitely need to rebalance20:40
Diplomatso I should set up mm.. 4 x 3TB and dual E5 CPU with.. lets say 32GB RAM20:40
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guimalufnotmyname, and push to all storages right?20:40
guimalufnotmyname, when you say graddualy you mean like change the region of one node per time. this also applys to zones? I pretend to change region and zones on a few nodes.20:41
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VekI'm getting 503s from reviews.openstack.org; any suggestions?20:42
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: are you planning to use swift?20:43
Sam-I-AmVek: reviews or review?20:43
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Veksam-i-am: review...and n/m, I restarted my browser, and now it's coming up.  Must have had some sort of cookie cached.20:44
DiplomatSam: well.. im not sure yet20:45
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notmynameguimaluf: zones are "inside" of regions, so by changing the region, you are effectively changing the zone too. how many regions do you have right now?20:46
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guimalufnotmyname, just one. and I'll set two regions. also some of zones are deprecated. so I'll change that too.20:46
guimaluf"deprecated" :)20:46
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guimalufI could find a better word to describe that the zones wont be use anymore.20:47
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guimalufnotmyname, I couldn't find how to change zones or region with set_info... very obscure syntax20:49
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Diplomatgotta love KVM20:53
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guimalufnotmyname, looks like set_info only update metadata20:54
notmynameguimaluf: sorry for the delay. a few conversations going on at once20:54
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notmynameguimaluf: ah, yes. that sounds right. so in that case, you'd remove+add20:54
guimalufnotmyname, no problem, I should ask for sorry for calling so many times your name :)20:54
notmynameguimaluf: now here's the problem with that:20:54
guimalufnotmyname, but remove+add would not gone with my data/20:54
guimaluf?20:54
notmynameguimaluf: no it won't lose data20:54
guimalufgood!20:55
guimaluf:)20:55
Sam-I-Amnotmyname: how are you?20:55
coredumpso I have an admin, is it admin for evey project or just for one? And now do I do nova commands as admin on other projects? (I need to reset an instance state)20:55
notmynameguimaluf: the issue is that since you will have 2 regions instead of one, swift will try to balance your data across them and cause lots of data movement20:55
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notmynameguimaluf: how big is your cluster? how much data are we talking? if you can't give specifics, I understand20:56
ctooleycoredump: depends on the privileges, both kinds of admin exist.20:56
notmynameSam-I-Am: just got back from a mini-vacation and catching up. so I'm busy! :-)20:56
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Sam-I-Amyou know the rule of vacations20:56
Sam-I-Amtime to recover = the square of the # of days off20:57
guimalufnotmyname, hmmm my cluster it's about 15 nodes, but it's kind of prototype, so there is no much use atm20:57
notmynameguimaluf: it's always easier to make big changes to a cluster that isn't being used :-)20:58
guimalufnotmyname, good to now! so checklist with me :P I should do all my changes on the {account,container,object}.builder rings; rebalance; push to all my storages and let the carnage begin! am I right? :)20:59
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notmynameguimaluf: assuming you need uptime for all of you data during the migration, I'd suggest keeping all your servers in the same DC while you rehome some (half) of them to the remote region. then when everything is moved, pack up the second region machines and truck them to the other DC20:59
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guimalufnotmyname, hmmm. good to know. Acctualy I need to remove node -> rebalance -> add node with new region/zone->  rebalance, and then push rings. Right?21:02
coredumpctooley is ther a way of the 'main' admin deal with a project instance?21:02
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notmynameguimaluf: yes. and "remove" may actually be "gradually reduce the weight over time to drain the data". it all depends on your network21:03
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ctooleycoredump: I don't think I understand your question.21:03
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coredumpctooley I have an admin user, and nova list doesn't show anything (because it's a different project I guess), but I need to reset a ninstance on project A.21:05
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guimalufnotmyname, so I shouldn't use swift-ring-builder remove? I'm a little confuse with that rebalancing and push. I don't know if I should (remove the node -> rebalance -> push) and then (add node -> rebalance -> push) OR (remove -> rebalance -> add -> rebalance -> push). understood? :P21:05
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ctooleythen the project admin would need to add you as an admin to that project. Alternative the super administrative user (usually named "admin") can do that for you too.21:06
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guimalufnotmyname, WOW swift it's awesome! (remove -> rebalance -> add -> rebalance -> push) it's the correct way, right? :D21:06
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notmynameguimaluf: you should push rings and let a replication cycle pass on your boxes after every rebalance (and yes I agree that swift is aweseome)21:07
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guimalufnotmyname, so I was wrong! :P  (remove the node -> rebalance -> push) and then (add node -> rebalance -> push) is the correct way?21:08
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notmynameguimaluf: yes, that is correct21:08
guimaluf:(21:08
guimaluf:/21:08
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guimalufnotmyname, when I did two rebalancing seems like swift reuse the partitions on the new node with new zone... That's why I though the (remove -> rebalance -> add -> rebalance -> push) was the correct way...21:09
notmynameguimaluf: think of it this way: the ring file is simply a lookup table, so the individual swift processes can't do anything until they have the current ring. so a rebalanced ring needs to be pushed to take effect21:09
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guimalufnotmyname, so I can do two rebalancing in sequence and then push. So it'll just lookup and see if the partition it's in the correct spot, right?21:10
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notmynameguimaluf: you can do that, but you might have a period of unavailability of some data. pushing the rings after every rebalance will keep you with availability of your data21:11
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guimalufnotmyname, hmmm great. so no problem doing all at once. making a big-huge-great-mtf-change, pushing and let swift deal with that.21:12
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guimalufit's only about data availability21:12
notmyname"only"21:12
guimaluf"only" :P21:13
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notmynameit's also about saturating your network connections. which can also affect availability21:13
guimalufok. but good. I will check if it's worth more to recreate the rings, or do all this data movement. Maybe I'll choose second to see how this work in practice! :)21:14
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guimalufnotmyname, I've no words to thank you! :)21:14
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guimalufnotmyname, rebalancing and pushing everything will be a very hard and long work...21:15
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notmynameguimaluf: it's probably easier than creating a second cluster and doing a GET from the old cluster and a PUT into the new one21:16
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guimalufnotmyname, yes you're right. but doing this rebalancing/push loop seems overwhelming.21:17
notmynameguimaluf: it's not, but I will admit that it's not a trivial operational task21:18
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notmynameguimaluf: the good news is that it can be broken down into a few repeatable steps that are then done throughout the cluster21:18
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guimalufnotmyname, what you mean in practical terms is: I could do like a mass remove, and then a mass add, and then repeat theses step with the other part of the cluster?21:22
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notmynameguimaluf: this predates the region stuff, but the concepts are the same. https://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/04/09/swift-capacity-management/21:23
guimalufnotmyname, thank you very very much! :)21:23
notmynameguimaluf: and that's why a mass remove or a mass add isn't necessarily the best thing21:23
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guimalufnotmyname, now I understand and you clarify my mind!21:25
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notmynameguimaluf: glad to help21:26
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koddssonhey hey! does anyone here do any backing up of swift in case of any catostrophic failure?23:02
notmynamekoddsson: sounds like you'd ben interested in swift's global clusters23:03
koddssonYeah probably! I'm pretty new to openstack and swift tbh :)23:04
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notmynamekoddsson: read over https://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/09/16/globally-distributed-openstack-swift-cluster/ and https://swiftstack.com/blog/2013/07/02/swift-1-9-0-release/23:06
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notmynamekoddsson: the basic idea is that swift stores your data across the available geographic regions. you can build active-passive clusters or active-active ones.23:07
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notmynamekoddsson: snapshotting your swift cluster is a different question though. while possible, it's a little more difficult (eg step one is to write some plugin code)23:08
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aurynnReplication is not backup, though.23:09
koddssonnotmyname: ok ok kewl thanks for those links, I'll check it out.23:09
notmynameaurynn: very true23:10
koddssonYeah I'm wondering if the replication will protect me against accidental deletion23:10
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aurynnkoddsson: no.23:10
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notmynamekoddsson: no. that's the first major way they differ23:10
aurynnthe delete will be replicated23:10
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koddssonYeah so I might wanna look into both :)23:11
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koddssonnotmyname aurynn: Could I somehow prevent normal users from deleting files via keystone roles/groups?23:12
aurynnkoddsson: from within their own VMs? Or in object store?23:12
koddssonin object store23:12
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aurynnI'd check the policy.json for Swift. I tentatively think yes23:13
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koddssonaurynn: oh sweet, that looks like something I can checkout. thanks23:14
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koddssonalthough I'm not finding any documentation on how it works23:15
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aurynnI was just digging into this myself; it seems relatively undocumented23:15
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koddssonThe last comment here is helpful23:16
koddssonhttp://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/642/what-kind-of-policies-can-be-created-using-keystone/p123:16
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notmynamekoddsson: two things. (1) we--swiftstack--have worked on an undelete middleware that would solve some of what you're looking for (recovering deleted files), but we haven't released it publicly yet23:17
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notmynamekoddsson: (2) let me look into what's done with keystone roles. I don't remember if it supports what you're looking for or not23:17
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koddssonkewl thanks!23:18
koddssonAlthough policy.json looks very promising23:18
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koddssonA coworker was talking about that swiftstack middleware today I think23:18
koddssonhttps://github.com/swiftstack/swift_undelete < This one?23:18
notmynameyup that one. I'm not sure if we intended for that to be public ;-)23:20
koddsson:D23:20
notmynamemuch laughing was had in the office just now23:21
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koddssonHahaha that's hilarious :p23:23
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koddssonI'm gonna let my coworker know that he stumbled on to something he shouldn't have23:24
notmynamekoddsson: aurynn: it doesn't look like the keystone+swift integration supports verb-based ACLs today.23:24
notmynamekoddsson: well it's public now :-)23:24
notmynamekoddsson: there are a couple of ways to add verb-based support to swift+keystone, but none of them have been done yet. basically, right now "write" access means you can PUT and DELETE23:25
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koddssonah ok, thanks :)23:29
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