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deani | can we not configure keystone on the public ip eth0 interface | 00:52 |
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deani | is there any firewall restrictions on by default o centos | 00:52 |
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deani | i stopped the iptables service still I get "keystoneclient.exceptions.AuthorizationFailure: Authorization Failed: Unable to communicate with identity service: (503, 'Service Unavailable'). (HTTP 400)" | 00:54 |
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deani | after unsetting the proxy user create is working | 01:09 |
deani | any ideas how to keep the proxy | 01:09 |
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Xelenonz | if I upgrade ram in node machine from 4GB->8GB. how can controller machine update ram value in node machine? | 02:21 |
Xelenonz | it's still not update yet :'( | 02:22 |
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MattAitchison_ | dll- You have to setup a few things in the neutron config file. | 02:40 |
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MattAitchison_ | dll- http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-ml2-controller-node.html | 02:41 |
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MrCurious | spent all day perfecting an apache allura install script for openstak vm creation, then ran into a wall getting the git server to work for it. | 04:37 |
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nmg | hi,everyone ,how to config neutron to get ips from external physical router? | 04:44 |
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hackoo | Does OpenStack even expose an ability to input placement choices ? Can we choose the host/cluster for VM placement ? | 05:11 |
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kiwigeraint | yes | 05:12 |
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kiwigeraint | --availability-zone az:node | 05:12 |
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hackoo | thanks kiwigeraint . So in this way we can create affinity and anti-affinity groups in OpenStack. | 05:17 |
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kiwigeraint | I think you might be looking for this : http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/host-aggregates.html | 05:19 |
hackoo | kiwigeraint: Yes.. That would be fine. | 05:19 |
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ak5 | hi everyone | 05:34 |
ak5 | I have a couple high level questions about openstack - I am wondering if it can fulfill my needs for setting up a sort of internal hosting provider for our company. Normally, we would just pay a cloud provider, but we are looking to move away from Aliyun which is like AWS in China (just sucks a lot more). Because of the landscape in China, especially the GFW and ICP license requirements, I thought it may | 05:37 |
ak5 | be viable to use openstack in house. | 05:37 |
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ak5 | Does anyone have any thoughts on this? | 05:37 |
ak5 | Basically, I just need to be able to fire up instances for the different users and manage them | 05:38 |
kiwigeraint | yes | 05:38 |
kiwigeraint | is the simple answer :) | 05:38 |
ak5 | huh, ok | 05:39 |
ak5 | :) | 05:39 |
kiwigeraint | but - to get to the level of availability/stability you see on AWS you will have to spend a lot. | 05:39 |
ak5 | kiwigeraint: Can I use nova to provision ec2 instances? That way I could spin up instances in other regions outside of my own datacenter, which would be nice | 05:40 |
kiwigeraint | No - but the tooling you will probably have in fron of nova can | 05:40 |
ak5 | kiwigeraint: when you say spend do you mean time, money or both? | 05:40 |
kiwigeraint | Puppet/Chef/Salt ETC all can | 05:40 |
kiwigeraint | both. | 05:40 |
kiwigeraint | with AWS your renting their experience as much as anything else | 05:41 |
ak5 | yeh expected that | 05:41 |
ak5 | I keep on reading about AWS compatibility, what does thta mean exactly? Are people running openstack on AWS? | 05:42 |
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kiwigeraint | it is compatible in many ways | 05:43 |
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kiwigeraint | Openstack provides the AWS API as a compatibility layer | 05:43 |
kiwigeraint | so it can work with AWS tools | 05:43 |
kiwigeraint | not the other way round | 05:43 |
kiwigeraint | i think - I could be wrong, we moved completely away from AWS so have no reason to find out | 05:44 |
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ak5 | kiwigeraint: so you are running your own hardware? | 05:44 |
kiwigeraint | but to be honest, you should put that logic into your provisioning layer (Chef etc) | 05:44 |
kiwigeraint | Yes | 05:44 |
ak5 | kiwigeraint: I haven't done the math yet, can you give me a ballpark what you spent and what you got? | 05:45 |
kiwigeraint | We have spent around $200k so far | 05:45 |
kiwigeraint | 22 Compute nodes - 128gb RAM, 2 x Hex Core Xeon, 10gbe | 05:46 |
kiwigeraint | 8 Storage nodes - between 8 and 24 3tb Disk in each (total is 280TB), Dual quad xeon, 10gbe, Fusion IO SSD's (One in each) - these are also our controller nodes | 05:48 |
kiwigeraint | 3 Network nodes - nothing special, dual quad, 16gb RAM, Multiple 10gbe | 05:48 |
kiwigeraint | 2 x Used Cisco Nexus 5020 Switches | 05:48 |
kiwigeraint | 2 x Cisco nexus FEX (One SFP+ and one Copper) | 05:49 |
kiwigeraint | we have ~150 Instances on there | 05:49 |
kiwigeraint | with around 60% capacity remaining | 05:49 |
ak5 | woah | 05:49 |
ak5 | sounds legit :D | 05:49 |
kiwigeraint | I wouldnt wanna look at openstack if your needs are < 100 instances | 05:49 |
kiwigeraint | if your in that area, save yourself the hassle and go for XenServer or VMWare :) | 05:50 |
ak5 | ok | 05:50 |
kiwigeraint | how many instances are you looking at ? | 05:50 |
ak5 | that's some solid advice, I will definitely check that out | 05:50 |
ak5 | no more than 50-70 | 05:50 |
kiwigeraint | are they mostly solid state ? | 05:51 |
kiwigeraint | sorry | 05:51 |
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kiwigeraint | are they mostly steady state ? | 05:51 |
kiwigeraint | or do you destroy/create instances a lot ? | 05:51 |
ak5 | when you say steady, you mean that they are not changing much? | 05:51 |
ak5 | if so, yes | 05:51 |
ersi | and stay powered on, at long intervals | 05:51 |
kiwigeraint | yeah - then one of the "Enterprise" virtualization techs will probably be a better fit | 05:52 |
ak5 | I would say 10-20 would be highly dynamic, for our internal testing services | 05:52 |
kiwigeraint | you could likely do something like VMWare on 3 severs for < $20k | 05:52 |
kiwigeraint | and save a lot of learning | 05:52 |
ak5 | I was actually excited about the learning part haha | 05:53 |
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kiwigeraint | plus staff with vmware experience are a lot easier to find than OS :) | 05:53 |
ak5 | but I will definitely see if vmware or similar is a better match | 05:53 |
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ak5 | kiwigeraint: thanks, this helped a lot | 06:04 |
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MattAitchison_ | Hi, I am getting the following error when trying to launch a new ubuntu instance. Error during following call to agent: ['ovs-vsctl', '--timeout=120', 'del-port', 'br-int', u'qvo627a7e9f-2e'] | 07:20 |
MattAitchison_ | Does anyone have any idea what it could be? | 07:20 |
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aruna | q | 07:25 |
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sparky43786 | MattAitchison_: is the sudo setup right for the nova user? is that command a sudo command? | 07:28 |
sparky43786 | MattAitchison_: also sometimes that's the last error when it's trying to delete a port that didn't get connected so you have to look back in the log file | 07:28 |
MattAitchison_ | sparky43786 Here is my sudoers file https://gist.github.com/MattAitchison/ba6046ca3285000801e9#file-sudoers | 07:30 |
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MattAitchison_ | Which log file should that show up in? | 07:30 |
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MattAitchison_ | Also I don't get that error with the cirros test image. | 07:31 |
sparky43786 | in the neutron and nova logs | 07:31 |
sparky43786 | that cirros test image works gooood | 07:31 |
MattAitchison_ | openvswitch-agent.log? | 07:31 |
sparky43786 | maybe.. but in the -api logs too | 07:32 |
sparky43786 | you can grep for ERR and such.. | 07:32 |
MattAitchison_ | hmmm I cant find anything | 07:32 |
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MattAitchison_ | There we go. Its in the nova compute log | 07:33 |
sparky43786 | how do you turn up the time out when you are doing a iscsi volume create and instance start | 07:34 |
MattAitchison_ | Lol this may be part of it. | 07:34 |
sparky43786 | i get the failed instance.. then three minutes later the volume is ready | 07:34 |
MattAitchison_ | "Error: Flavor's disk is too small for requested image." | 07:34 |
sparky43786 | i've seen that one | 07:34 |
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MattAitchison_ | I added the errors I get to that GIST | 07:35 |
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MattAitchison_ | sparky43786 The instance starts up when I use a larger disk size | 07:43 |
sparky43786 | MattAitchison_: right on! | 07:43 |
MattAitchison_ | Ubuntu is a little too big for a 1gb disk :P | 07:43 |
MattAitchison_ | Do you know how to setup public floating IPs? | 07:44 |
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sparky43786 | MattAitchison_: once you have the network setup they pretty much just happen | 08:13 |
MattAitchison_ | Well i have no clue how to setup my routing so that my network node is able to use the public IPs | 08:13 |
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sparky43786 | MattAitchison_: I'm too tired to go into it, but check out the network troubleshooting page | 08:14 |
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MattAitchison_ | okay, Thanks | 08:14 |
sparky43786 | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/network_troubleshooting.html | 08:15 |
sparky43786 | if you understand that.. you'll get it | 08:15 |
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admin0 | hi all .. after login to openstack dashboard ( icehouse ) , it tries to go to /dashboard / but gives a 404 saying there is no dashboard .. when I change the url to /admin/ it works | 08:17 |
admin0 | is this a new behaviour in icehouse .. same settings in havana was working fine | 08:17 |
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rotbeard | hi folks, can't get it now but is there a _openstack-status_ in ubuntu like in redhat/centos? | 09:50 |
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jamespage | fifieldt, thanks for the bug reports re trove | 09:57 |
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fifieldt | no worries | 09:58 |
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fifieldt | Assume you're crazy busy with 14.04 newness, so held off before pinging again :) | 09:58 |
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deepakcs | sdague, hi, whats the right way to install tox-epep8 ? | 10:20 |
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sdague | deepakcs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Testing | 10:31 |
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deepakcs | sdague, thanks | 10:32 |
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deepakcs | sdague, looking at that link, its advised to install tox < 1.7, whcih i did.. and running tox -pep8 take quite some time and then fails w/ some gcc .h error... | 10:51 |
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deepakcs | sdague, wondering if there is some known issue here or its only me seeing it | 10:51 |
sdague | deepakcs: then you need to resolve that | 10:51 |
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deepakcs | sdague, gcc is installed :) | 10:52 |
sdague | because some of the hacking tests include import checking, you have to have all the requirements | 10:52 |
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deepakcs | sdague, http://fpaste.org/97386/ - wondering if u can figure whats the issue ? | 10:53 |
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sdague | mysql.c:44:23: fatal error: my_config.h: No such file or directory | 10:53 |
sdague | 10:53 | |
sdague | #include "my_config.h" | 10:53 |
sdague | yes, you don't have mysql headers installed | 10:53 |
deepakcs | sdague, ah so i need -develpkg ? | 10:53 |
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sdague | yes | 10:53 |
deepakcs | sdague, got it.. didn't realise it before! | 10:53 |
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deepakcs | sdague, i think i need to install mariadb-devel, as devstack uses that | 10:55 |
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hackoo | Hi.. I was looking for Affinity and AntiAffinity in OpenStack and found a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/instance-group-api-extension . Is this functionality available in Icehouse ? | 11:36 |
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MattAitchison_ | Should I get the following error whenever I boot a ubuntu instance? 'util.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [51/120s]: http error [500]' | 12:32 |
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dmitryme | MattAitchison_: you see the error in the instance log, right? | 12:36 |
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MattAitchison_ | Yup | 12:37 |
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dmitryme | can you log into the instance with the key pair you specified while starting the instance? | 12:37 |
MattAitchison_ | I haven't tried that yet | 12:38 |
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dmitryme | try that. It could happen that instance didn't get the key pair from the metadata server | 12:38 |
MattAitchison_ | Okay, Ill try that. | 12:39 |
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MattAitchison_ | I'm guessing that would also come up if I don't have enable_isolated_metadata in the dhcp_agent.ini file correct? | 12:39 |
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dmitryme | I am not familiar with the details of networking configuration, I just suggest to check if metadata server works in general | 12:45 |
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dmitryme | it could be that only instance-id url responds with 500, while others work fine | 12:45 |
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dmitryme | others, like the one which gives key pair certificate to the instance | 12:46 |
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MattAitchison_ | okay, Thanks | 12:46 |
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MattAitchison_ | do you know if cinder can use the same lvm volume group that the OS uses? | 12:47 |
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dmitryme | not sure, I but I hardly see how this can be linked with the metadata server malfunction | 12:51 |
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MattAitchison_ | dmitryme That was for a different issue I am having. | 13:09 |
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MattAitchison_ | I am currently getting the following error when I try to create a cinder volume. "Caught error: owner " | 13:09 |
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Nils__ | Hello, i am installing openstack on debian for the first time. I have problems using keystone user-list. This command takes about 30 seconds and then only prints out 'No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.httpclient"'. But in my mysql there is a user in table user. Any idear? | 13:12 |
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dmitryme | MattAitchison_: I see, nope, I don't know about that | 13:13 |
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MattAitchison_ | Hmm. It seems to work for the admin user from the cli but not from a different user from the dashboard | 13:14 |
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is_null | hi all, i found a security issue in havana, according to glance docs on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/glanceapi.html "Note Use of the is_public parameter is restricted to admin users. For all other users it will be ignored.". I have just tested on several of our havana installations including my local one and every user is able to upload images and set them as public, in that case other users do see that image. Seems like | 13:47 |
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pedroalvarez | Hi! which one is the best distribution to install Devstack? I had problems installing icehouse in debian. so I wonder if I should pick another different. | 13:48 |
pedroalvarez | and, is Icehouse stable enough? | 13:48 |
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is_null | icehouse was not released as stable yet | 13:48 |
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pedroalvarez | is_null: there is a branch in the devstack repo called "stable/icehouse" | 13:50 |
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is_null | oops, thanks, i was refering to https://github.com/openstack/openstack branches | 13:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | pedroalvarez: ubuntu is the best supported distro, imho | 13:57 |
pedroalvarez | thanks Sam-I-Am | 13:58 |
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is_null | i reproduced this on devstack havana, so potentially a malicious user could upload an image of say ubuntu with a backdoor and by giving it a credible name like "Ubuntu-server 14.04 LTS" it could make another user install it and use it .... | 14:01 |
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pedroalvarez | Sam-I-Am: does it has to be Ubunto 12.04? | 14:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | both 12.04 and 14.04 support icehouse | 14:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | i would try 14.04 unless you have a specific reason to use 12.04 | 14:08 |
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BogdanR | I am trying to do a "nova image-list" and I get an "Unauthorized" error. "glance image-list" works just fine. Is there something else that needs to be running from nova besides nova-api ? | 14:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | sounds like nova isnt authenticating right | 14:19 |
Sam-I-Am | probably a config error | 14:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | either in nova.conf, or an endpoint/creds error in keystone | 14:20 |
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BogdanR | Sam-I-Am: Most likely, but how can I debug that? | 14:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | check the nova logs | 14:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | its probably complaining about keystone | 14:21 |
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BogdanR | Maybe the endpoint doesn't look right: http://hastebin.com/raw/cipiwitaha ? | 14:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | that looks ok, assuming its all on the same host | 14:22 |
BogdanR | Should the URL have %(tenant_id)s or it shold actually have IDs ? | 14:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | it needs to have the variable there | 14:23 |
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BogdanR | In the nova-api logs I have this: http://hastebin.com/febefocoqi.py | 14:23 |
Sam-I-Am | how did you install this? | 14:24 |
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BogdanR | python setup.py install | 14:24 |
Sam-I-Am | check your [keystone_authtoken] section and 'auth_strategy = keystone' in nova.conf | 14:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | installing from source? | 14:24 |
BogdanR | Yes | 14:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | any reason for that? | 14:25 |
BogdanR | I have that in there | 14:25 |
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BogdanR | I want to package it for a distro | 14:25 |
Sam-I-Am | are you following the installation guide for config? | 14:25 |
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BogdanR | Yep | 14:26 |
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BogdanR | Ommiting comments, my config looks like this: http://hastebin.com/ipiyopevev.ini | 14:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | try putting 'auth_protocol = http' under [keystone_authtoken] | 14:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | and auth_port = 35357 | 14:28 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit downtime for upgrade begins in 90 minutes. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritUpgrade | 14:30 | |
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Nils__ | I get the following error with keystone: 'No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.httpclient"'. Does anyone know how to add a handler for this logger? | 14:31 |
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BogdanR | Sam-I-Am: That didn't do it, but I think it can be possible admin_password got messed in the process. How can I retrieve the password from keystone? | 14:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can't retrieve it, but you can reset it | 14:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's a password for the nova account | 14:33 |
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BogdanR | Sam-I-Am: How do I reset, because adding it again doesn't do it: hastebin.com/vojogabuta | 14:37 |
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gmi | BogdanR:use the admin token defined in keystone.conf to authenticate and reset the admin password | 14:38 |
BogdanR | I deleted and managed to add it. That also didn't do it | 14:38 |
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snewpy | i have a strange problem where some of my VMs sending tcp RST packets for closed ports between two VMs on the same tenant network are being marked as INVALID by the compute node's network stack... I can see the valid rst packet leaving the guest's nic and reaching the bridge, and then it gets dropped by iptables as invalid.. any ideas? | 14:39 |
BogdanR | gmi: So I am not doing what I should because this was generated fresh | 14:40 |
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BogdanR | gmi: I got the token from the keystone config file and that also didn't do it | 14:43 |
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BogdanR | When I start the nova-api I get this message; http://hastebin.com/epavuzakay.avrasm | 14:43 |
BogdanR | Could it be related? | 14:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | could be part of it | 14:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | do you have two of those defined? | 14:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | should be 'rabbit' if you're using rabbit | 14:47 |
Sam-I-Am | or qpid for qpid | 14:47 |
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gmi | BogdanR: that message is a warning so it shouldn't be critical, but I'm not sure where your problems start: the fact that "glance image-list" works just fine means that glance is working as well as keystone; because "nova image-list" gives "Unauthorized" error it means that Nova is missconfigured to authenticate tokens through keystone, and on top of that you cannot now authenticate as an admin to Keystone because the admin pas | 14:51 |
gmi | sword is wrong and you don't know how to reset it. Did I get these right? | 14:51 |
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gmi | BogdarR: to authenticate using the Admin token, use the instructions here (http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-users.html) but make sure you first restart the keystone service and there are no errors in its logs; the restart is needed to make sure Keystone uses the admin_token = ADMIN_TOKEN defined in keystone.conf | 14:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | after that, each service should be using its own credentials | 14:55 |
Sam-I-Am | the admin_token is just to bootstrap the first keystone stuff | 14:56 |
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gmi | BogdarR: yes, after you manage to reset the password for the admin user you can create separate accounts for nova, glance, cinder, neutron and give them the admin role in the "service" tenant and put the nova user's credentials in nova.conf | 14:59 |
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ShooterMcG | Good morning folks. I have a quick question about Openstack/CEPH integration. Is the best approach to simply give compute nodes direct access tot he CEPH cluster, and have them interact witht he storage as thoug it were local, OR is it worth presenting CEPH to the stack via a cinder-volume service (acting as a gateway)? | 15:08 |
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foxx_prix | Hello OpenStackers | 15:13 |
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foxx_prix | When following the guide 'OpenStack Installation Guide for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, CentOS, and Fedora - icehouse' I attempt to create a network with 'neutron net-create ext-net --shared --router:external=True'. However I get Connection to neutron failed: [Errno 111] Connection refused | 15:15 |
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foxx_prix | Anyone have a few minutes to help troubleshoot? | 15:15 |
foxx_prix | neutron.conf http://paste.openstack.org/raw/77459/ | 15:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | neutron-server isn't listening for some reason | 15:18 |
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foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: Yes, it's actually failing to start | 15:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | does it say why? | 15:20 |
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foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: negative nothing in /var/log/server.log | 15:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | it would be in /var/log/neutron/server.log | 15:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you set the symlink for plugin.ini ? | 15:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | neutron-server wont start without it | 15:22 |
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foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: Yes ( ln -s plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini /etc/neutron/plugin.ini) | 15:23 |
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foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: Correct log /var/log/neutron/server.log blank | 15:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | something is horribly wrong with your system | 15:24 |
foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: Documentation is not very clear when it gets to Neutron piece | 15:24 |
Sam-I-Am | the documentation is fine | 15:24 |
Sam-I-Am | i wrote it | 15:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | its been tested plenty of times | 15:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | i would try starting neutron-server manually | 15:25 |
foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: in the 'Configure controller node' section.... Should everything on this page be done on the controller? | 15:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's a chance its missing some sort of dependency. | 15:26 |
fandi | hi all, how does it going if we not apply stp port edge on access switch on openstack ? | 15:26 |
Sam-I-Am | did you install python-novaclient on the controller? | 15:26 |
Sam-I-Am | there have been issues with dependencies on the RDO packages | 15:26 |
Sam-I-Am | foxx_prix: yes. the chapter is split into the 3 nodes. | 15:26 |
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foxx_prix | Package 1:python-novaclient-2.17.0-1.el6.noarch already installed and latest version | 15:28 |
foxx_prix | Nothing to do | 15:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok, thats good | 15:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | try starting neutron-server manually | 15:30 |
foxx_prix | btw: /etc/init.d/neutron-server start fails to start manually. Debugged with -x and I'm seeing a exitcode of 6 | 15:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | just run 'neutron-server --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugin.ini' | 15:31 |
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foxx_prix | raise ConfigFilesNotFoundError(self._namespace.files_not_found) | 15:33 |
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foxx_prix | sorry typo in my file name. standby | 15:34 |
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foxx_prix | Sam-I-Am: Found a dead link plugin.ini -> /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.in | 15:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's a note in the install guide to fix that | 15:40 |
Sam-I-Am | or... set it. | 15:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | not sure why yours was pointing to ovs | 15:40 |
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coredump | guys, instance disks still being mounted via iscsi right? | 15:42 |
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coredump | I have some instances not finding its boot disks | 15:42 |
coredump | ideas on how to debug this? | 15:42 |
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Diplomat | guys can you tell me or pm me places where i could purchase/download images for OS ? | 15:53 |
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dll- | hmm, can I assign a floating IP on two VMs ? I'd like to do CARP | 15:55 |
dll- | (or is there is a way to do something like carp on openstack?) | 15:55 |
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pedroalvarez | I wonder why I can't create volumes in my OpenStack | 15:59 |
pedroalvarez | Also I wonder how to debug it | 15:59 |
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coredump | I am getting permission denied on my shared instance storage. The commands are ran as the nova user right? Or libvirtd uses someething else? | 16:27 |
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Diplomat | guys | 16:33 |
Diplomat | where are OS images ? in which folder | 16:33 |
Diplomat | i somehow can't find any | 16:33 |
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dll- | Diplomat: /var/lib/glance/images ? | 16:34 |
Diplomat | yup there | 16:34 |
Diplomat | thanks | 16:34 |
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mwoodson | i have multiple controller nodes and I am using pki tokens with keystone. | 16:52 |
mwoodson | what files do i need to sync across the nodes? | 16:52 |
mwoodson | i think they are in /etc/keystone/ssl/? | 16:52 |
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Diplomat | guy, i have this network problem: http://puu.sh/8r5r2.png any ideas what might be wrong ? | 17:04 |
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coredump | how can I check under what user the commands are being ran? | 17:22 |
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gmi | coredump:what commands? | 17:24 |
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coredump | 2014-04-28 17:22:10.880 3452 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 124f955b-944f-472e-98a8-771f0a0485f0] open /data/nova/instances/124f955b-944f-472e-98a8-771f0a0485f0/console.log: Permission denied | 17:25 |
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gmi | coredump: which log file is that? | 17:26 |
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coredump | nova compute | 17:26 |
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gmi | coredump:that's a trace and I think there should be a request ID at the beginning of the trace | 17:27 |
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coredump | gmi https://gist.github.com/coredump/609719063ae9f0b1cae8 | 17:31 |
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coredump | erm | 17:33 |
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Diplomat | Guys, can you please check why it fails: http://pastebin.com/HrSE7RJw | 17:36 |
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gmi | coredump: I thought you were referring to a keystone user running a command through the API, but it seems you're issue is with the system user spinning up VMs in kvm | 17:54 |
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coredump | sooo | 17:55 |
coredump | I thjink it's apparmor blocking it? | 17:55 |
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coredump | does that make sense? | 17:55 |
coredump | type=1400 audit(1398707488.920:98): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=7976 profile="/usr/lib/libvirt/virt-aa-helper" name="/data/nova/instances/_base/43efc07d04845c552031b87a923da5a13dc67faa" pid=9418 comm="virt-aa-helper" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=114 | 17:55 |
gmi | coredump:it looks like it | 17:56 |
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coredump | how do I turn this off | 17:59 |
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coredump | nope, still permission denied | 18:11 |
coredump | ffs | 18:11 |
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reazem | Where can I find the source of the openstack cloud administrator guide? | 18:20 |
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coredump | join #glusterfs | 18:24 |
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ctooley | Lemme try this with a wider audience…. I am still unable to determine why I'm getting "Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" | 18:26 |
jmickle | hi what CMDB’s do you guys use? | 18:26 |
ctooley | Excel? :-) | 18:27 |
jmickle | man | 18:27 |
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jmickle | this is like the hardest problem to solve | 18:27 |
ctooley | jmickle: Do you mean a full blown CMDB system with inventory and such or do you mean a CMS like Chef? | 18:27 |
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jmickle | well essentially you need to track a server and be able to put that server into kickstart mode to determine if its say an openstack box | 18:28 |
jmickle | right? | 18:28 |
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jmickle | think of the problem someone unboxes physical server, racks it | 18:28 |
jmickle | creates an asset | 18:29 |
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jmickle | and then from there you should be able to track it/kickstart it etc | 18:29 |
jmickle | right | 18:29 |
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ctooley | Right. So an actual CMDB. I haven't found any that don't suck… a lot. | 18:29 |
jmickle | yeah the problem im having | 18:29 |
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jmickle | collin’s from tumblr is pretty cool but its very premature | 18:30 |
ctooley | I hope you immature… :-) | 18:30 |
jmickle | :-) | 18:30 |
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zul | anyone have an idea for a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1299517 since I cant find any documentation about it | 18:31 |
jmickle | ctooley: so no reccomendations? | 18:31 |
jmickle | or am i approaching it wrong | 18:31 |
jmickle | ctooley: have you looked at ralph? curious what your thoughts are | 18:32 |
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ctooley | I think I'm going to start with OpenNMS and integrate OpenCMDB | 18:32 |
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jmickle | hmm | 18:33 |
jmickle | still seems so much more complex then it needs to be though | 18:33 |
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ctooley | This vif_type binding failed error is eating my lunch. I can't find shit on it. | 18:33 |
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jrwren | build your own CMDB | 18:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | ctooley: what distro/release? | 18:42 |
ctooley | RHEL/Icehouse | 18:42 |
Sam-I-Am | ctooley: neutron? | 18:42 |
ctooley | Yeah | 18:42 |
ctooley | GRE | 18:42 |
Sam-I-Am | using the install guide? | 18:42 |
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ctooley | yeah | 18:42 |
ctooley | ML2 plugin, OpenVSwitch mechanism driver, | 18:43 |
Sam-I-Am | first thing to look for is config errors. stuff under the wrong header, usually. | 18:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | also, the ml2 config file incorrectly has "mechanism driver" instead of "mechanism_driver" for one of the examples | 18:44 |
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Sam-I-Am | and there's a workaround in the neutron openvswitch agent startup script | 18:44 |
ctooley | there's a space in my plugin.ini | 18:44 |
ctooley | I fixed the startup script. | 18:44 |
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Sam-I-Am | it should be "mechanism_driver" | 18:46 |
Diplomat | if OS had a neck, i'd break it.. damn thing does whatever it wants tod o | 18:47 |
ctooley | wow… I can't believe I missed that. Instance spun right up. | 18:47 |
ctooley | Still can't hit it's external network interface though. :-( | 18:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | hmm, wonder if i should add a note to make sure people use the "_" | 18:49 |
Sam-I-Am | the bug was fixed upstream, but redhat didn't package it | 18:49 |
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Diplomat | this is weird as hell, i can set network to "shared", but when i try to remove that checkbox it says "error: failed to update network" | 18:49 |
Diplomat | wtf | 18:49 |
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Diplomat | such fun, now i cant delete my networks | 18:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | are you the correct user/tenant? | 18:52 |
Diplomat | im admin yes | 18:52 |
Diplomat | somethign is very wrong with that network thing.. i tried to add a network block + router and it didnt give any ips out like.. none | 18:53 |
Diplomat | and now it gives me that kind of errors :D | 18:53 |
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Diplomat | and worst thing is that you cant find help from anywhere, crazy :/ | 18:54 |
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Sam-I-Am | 'network thing' ? | 18:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | ctooley: can you ping the local gateway from your vm? | 18:55 |
ctooley | Can't log into the VM without a ssh key | 18:56 |
Diplomat | network thing.. i dont know.. network thing lol | 18:56 |
Diplomat | when you log in to dashboard and then create a network add ip and subnet n shit | 18:56 |
Diplomat | i dont remember how it is called | 18:56 |
jsidhu | neutron? | 18:56 |
Sam-I-Am | ctooley: which vm? i would use cirros for testing. | 18:56 |
ctooley | Downloading it now. | 18:57 |
Sam-I-Am | it has a regular user/pass in addition to ssh keys | 18:57 |
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dll- | hi, how can I use CARP in openstack? | 18:58 |
ctooley | trying it out. Thank you for the help Sam-I-Am | 18:59 |
Diplomat | i cant understand why i cant modify or delete my networks | 18:59 |
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Diplomat | and it has the best error message too : Error: Failed to delete network d99fb1dd-e831-4803-bb95-1b7b349818ee | 18:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | must be some sort of permissions issue | 19:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | or auth issue | 19:01 |
ctooley | Sam-I-Am: Can I not log in directly to this console? | 19:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | you should be able to | 19:02 |
Sam-I-Am | once you get the vnc console to the vm | 19:02 |
Sam-I-Am | if it can't get an IP, it will sit and hang for a while until the dhcp process times out | 19:02 |
ctooley | Says something about further messages being written to ttyS0 | 19:02 |
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ctooley | hmmm the vm didn't get an address. That's bad. | 19:04 |
ctooley | In the admin console there are some assigned to it. | 19:04 |
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Diplomat | any ideas why ports can be down ? | 19:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: nothing connected to them? | 19:05 |
Sam-I-Am | ctooley: see if you can assign an ip manually within the vm | 19:05 |
Sam-I-Am | also see if 'ip netns' shows anything on the network node | 19:06 |
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Diplomat | well.. what i did was... set up a network.. added subnet and then i added router and router says that port is down | 19:06 |
Diplomat | network:router_gateway | 19:06 |
Diplomat | is down | 19:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | do the networks around your environment work? | 19:10 |
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Diplomat | http://screencast.com/t/ngO0FZNa | 19:11 |
Diplomat | should it be like this ? | 19:11 |
Diplomat | and yes all the ips work | 19:11 |
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snewpy | I need some help with a sanity check before filing a bug, I think that neutron creates iptables rules for security groups in an incorrect order that blocks RST packets from related connections as invalid | 19:12 |
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snewpy | neutron creates firstly an iptables rule -m state --state INVALID -j DROP and *then* a rule -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j RETURN | 19:13 |
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snewpy | but i think this should always be the other way around, otherwise netfilter rejects packets which would be valid if checked as being related first | 19:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | snewpy: how are you testing this, and on what release? | 19:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: were you using the installation guide to set all this up? | 19:16 |
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Diplomat | I used RDO | 19:16 |
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snewpy | Sam-I-Am: icehouse from ubuntu 14.04... i have two VMs with the default security group plus an extra port added (5432 for postgres) | 19:16 |
snewpy | when something is listening on 5432, it correctly allows traffic to that port | 19:16 |
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snewpy | if the vm stops listening on that port, attempts to connect to the port time out, because the RST packet gets blocked by the INVALID rule for other VM's iptables rules... it would be matched by the RELATED rule if it were before the INVALID rule | 19:17 |
Sam-I-Am | so the rst packets aren't escaping the VM back to the host trying to contact it? | 19:18 |
snewpy | no, they get to the host, but are then rejected by the iptables rules on the receiving VM (on the same tenant network) | 19:18 |
snewpy | sorry, an iptables rule on the host *for* the receiving VM | 19:19 |
Diplomat | cloud-init start-local running: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:20:01 +0000. up 3.60 seconds | 19:20 |
Diplomat | no instance data found in start-local | 19:20 |
Diplomat | cloud-init-nonet waiting 120 seconds for a network device. | 19:20 |
* Sam-I-Am has trouble with this... | 19:20 | |
Sam-I-Am | so | 19:20 |
Diplomat | and now it fails.. | 19:20 |
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Diplomat | http://puu.sh/8rffs.png but those things are not down anymore | 19:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | rdo as in... packstack automation, or just the packages? | 19:23 |
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Diplomat | http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart this | 19:23 |
mwoodson | i don't think my floating ips are being released properly. they are still reserved by the tenant even if there is no instance associated with them | 19:24 |
mwoodson | is there a command to free these? | 19:25 |
Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: ah, yeah... with neutron/ml2? | 19:26 |
Diplomat | neutron i guess | 19:26 |
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Diplomat | yeah | 19:26 |
Sam-I-Am | mwoodson: they're usually created under the tenant | 19:26 |
Diplomat | i dont get it why it doesnt give ips to the server, but ip is assigned | 19:27 |
mwoodson | Sam-I-Am: and if the instance gets removed, the ip stays associated with the tenant? | 19:27 |
snewpy | Sam-I-Am: actually, it's not the order of the rules... if I remove the INVALID rule all together, or change the action from DROP to LOG, then the RST passes from vm1 to vm2 | 19:27 |
Sam-I-Am | mwoodson: wasnt the floating ip created under the tenant? | 19:27 |
Sam-I-Am | it should be un-associated with instance that was deleted though | 19:27 |
mwoodson | it was, but now that ip doesn't seem to be available outside of that tenant | 19:27 |
mwoodson | once the instnace is removed | 19:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | was it up for grabs by any tenant before? | 19:28 |
mwoodson | yes | 19:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | interesting | 19:29 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont know why its doing that | 19:29 |
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Diplomat | hm i think maybe it fails because host server uses the same ip lol | 19:33 |
Sam-I-Am | haha | 19:33 |
Diplomat | i need to figure out how to take a next ip | 19:33 |
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Diplomat | nope | 19:36 |
Diplomat | fails again | 19:36 |
Diplomat | :| | 19:36 |
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Diplomat | and now.. router is down | 19:38 |
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Diplomat | i just dont understand.. this is crazy | 19:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | is this an all-in-one box? | 19:45 |
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Diplomat | what do you mean | 19:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | the rdo quickstart typically installs everything on one box | 19:47 |
Sam-I-Am | rather than multiple nodes | 19:47 |
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Diplomat | yeah | 19:48 |
Diplomat | 1 node only | 19:48 |
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Diplomat | and AIO yes | 19:48 |
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Diplomat | yup fails again :S | 19:50 |
Diplomat | getting tired of this bs already | 19:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, rdo packstack really isnt an awesome example of openstack working | 19:54 |
Sam-I-Am | neutron with a single node and single NIC is tricky | 19:54 |
Sam-I-Am | especially if your physical network is limited | 19:54 |
Diplomat | soo.. you are saying that i should get another server up and running ? | 19:55 |
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Diplomat | and manually install OS ? | 19:55 |
Sam-I-Am | what is your goal? | 19:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | playing around, testing for production, etc? | 19:55 |
Diplomat | testing for production | 19:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | you might be best off with a manual install then | 19:56 |
Sam-I-Am | mainly because it will reflect more of what you see in production (separate nodes) and you get a better idea of what all of the services do and how they interact with each other | 19:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | rdo/AIO is a good proof-of-concept to see what things look like (if you can get it working) | 19:58 |
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jmickle | ctooley: you still around? | 20:05 |
ctooley | Yeah… just got back actually | 20:05 |
jmickle | same haha | 20:05 |
jmickle | anyways just wanted to say thanks for your input on the cmdb | 20:06 |
ctooley | Sam-I-Am, assigned an IP to the VM and it can't hit anything. | 20:06 |
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ctooley | no problem. | 20:06 |
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jmickle | i’ve hit a brick wall on this problem and not sure how to get past | 20:06 |
jmickle | :-/ | 20:06 |
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jmickle | im trying to avoid writing something | 20:06 |
ctooley | The CMDB? | 20:06 |
jmickle | yeah | 20:06 |
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jmickle | i feel like writing yet another CMDB is a bad idea | 20:06 |
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ctooley | Pick the simplest open source one you can find and use it as a base instead of starting from scratch. | 20:06 |
jmickle | yeah that was my thoughts as well | 20:07 |
jmickle | did you have any thoughts on ralph? | 20:07 |
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ctooley | None of them are really going to fit your needs exactly | 20:07 |
ctooley | No, haven't looked at it honestly. | 20:07 |
jmickle | i think the biggest problem we have is that not every node in our infrastructure is a openstack master | 20:07 |
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jmickle | but all nodes should be accessible via some cmdb solution | 20:07 |
jmickle | right? | 20:07 |
jmickle | or is that the wrong way of thinking | 20:07 |
ctooley | Uhhh, why would the CMDB make the accessible? | 20:08 |
jmickle | just for search/data | 20:08 |
ctooley | ah, yes, that would be the idea. | 20:08 |
Sam-I-Am | ctooley: hmm, guess you have a problem somewhere. | 20:09 |
ctooley | Sam-I-Am: Well… that is a true statement. :-) | 20:09 |
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ctooley | I have a lot of problems. I'm hoping this one is solvable in a reasonable amount of time. | 20:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | assuming your physical networks are in proper order, its probably a config issue | 20:12 |
guimaluf | hey guys, how can I update my swift ring to use two regions? should I remove and add the same node or can I only update the ring and push to all storages? | 20:12 |
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ctooley | I've only got one physical network at the moment. | 20:14 |
ctooley | And one box for that matter. | 20:14 |
Sam-I-Am | so you're trying to make this all work on a single system? | 20:14 |
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ctooley | to start with, I've got more boxes but thought it'd be easier to on just one to start with. | 20:14 |
Diplomat | ok.. | 20:15 |
Diplomat | I'll install it manually :/ | 20:15 |
Diplomat | but i still wonder what's wrong and why it fails | 20:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | ctooley: the install guide suggests (and follows) 3 nodes with neutron because its easier to configure and debug, especially for first timers | 20:17 |
Sam-I-Am | many people build those nodes as VMs on one physical box | 20:17 |
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ctooley | hmmm that might be an issue… we're really hoping to be able to do all this on a single host at some point. | 20:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | for production? | 20:19 |
Sam-I-Am | you can do it all on one, its just a pain to troubleshoot where all the network stuff is going | 20:20 |
guimaluf | if I've a working swift infrastructure and I want to split that infra in regions, should I remove and add nodes with the new region or there is anyway to update that node on my ring? | 20:20 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: you can use set_info to change the region of an existing node. if you do it that way or if you remove+add the nodes, note that rebalancing will move data across your WAN and should be done gradually (ie by managing weights) if you need to ensure availability of your data | 20:26 |
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Diplomat | but weird thing was.. last time when I used 2 machines RDO worked well :/ | 20:26 |
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ctooley | We want to be able to stamp out a scalable environment-in-a-box | 20:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | ctooley: interesting. whats this for? | 20:30 |
ctooley | And then expand the solution as needed. | 20:30 |
ctooley | NDA wall | 20:30 |
Sam-I-Am | with openstack, the only thing that really needs to scale is compute node | 20:31 |
ctooley | Compute and storage | 20:31 |
ctooley | And at some point redundancy of services. | 20:31 |
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Diplomat | guys do you know any good resources that teach openstack little bit more? | 20:32 |
Sam-I-Am | ctooley: yeah | 20:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | i forgot about storage :) | 20:33 |
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ctooley | So, start with packstack --all-in-one and hope for the best? | 20:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | ctooley: packstack will mostly tell you how to run everything as an all-in-one | 20:37 |
Diplomat | sarcasm has never helped anybody | 20:38 |
Sam-I-Am | but it might not work exactly how you want it the first time | 20:38 |
ctooley | Diplomat: Was someone being sarcastic to you? | 20:38 |
Diplomat | just saying :) | 20:38 |
Diplomat | just a stupid question.. this compute node.. it's pretty much powerful CPU and that's it ? | 20:39 |
Diplomat | some ram too | 20:39 |
guimaluf | notmyname, hmmm set_info looks interesting. and afterward should I rebalance and push the ring to all storages or let swift write_ring? | 20:39 |
Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: and sometimes storage | 20:39 |
notmyname | guimaluf: if you are changing the regions, you'll definitely need to rebalance | 20:40 |
Diplomat | so I should set up mm.. 4 x 3TB and dual E5 CPU with.. lets say 32GB RAM | 20:40 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, and push to all storages right? | 20:40 |
guimaluf | notmyname, when you say graddualy you mean like change the region of one node per time. this also applys to zones? I pretend to change region and zones on a few nodes. | 20:41 |
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Vek | I'm getting 503s from reviews.openstack.org; any suggestions? | 20:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: are you planning to use swift? | 20:43 |
Sam-I-Am | Vek: reviews or review? | 20:43 |
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Vek | sam-i-am: review...and n/m, I restarted my browser, and now it's coming up. Must have had some sort of cookie cached. | 20:44 |
Diplomat | Sam: well.. im not sure yet | 20:45 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: zones are "inside" of regions, so by changing the region, you are effectively changing the zone too. how many regions do you have right now? | 20:46 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, just one. and I'll set two regions. also some of zones are deprecated. so I'll change that too. | 20:46 |
guimaluf | "deprecated" :) | 20:46 |
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guimaluf | I could find a better word to describe that the zones wont be use anymore. | 20:47 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, I couldn't find how to change zones or region with set_info... very obscure syntax | 20:49 |
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Diplomat | gotta love KVM | 20:53 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, looks like set_info only update metadata | 20:54 |
notmyname | guimaluf: sorry for the delay. a few conversations going on at once | 20:54 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: ah, yes. that sounds right. so in that case, you'd remove+add | 20:54 |
guimaluf | notmyname, no problem, I should ask for sorry for calling so many times your name :) | 20:54 |
notmyname | guimaluf: now here's the problem with that: | 20:54 |
guimaluf | notmyname, but remove+add would not gone with my data/ | 20:54 |
guimaluf | ? | 20:54 |
notmyname | guimaluf: no it won't lose data | 20:54 |
guimaluf | good! | 20:55 |
guimaluf | :) | 20:55 |
Sam-I-Am | notmyname: how are you? | 20:55 |
coredump | so I have an admin, is it admin for evey project or just for one? And now do I do nova commands as admin on other projects? (I need to reset an instance state) | 20:55 |
notmyname | guimaluf: the issue is that since you will have 2 regions instead of one, swift will try to balance your data across them and cause lots of data movement | 20:55 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: how big is your cluster? how much data are we talking? if you can't give specifics, I understand | 20:56 |
ctooley | coredump: depends on the privileges, both kinds of admin exist. | 20:56 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: just got back from a mini-vacation and catching up. so I'm busy! :-) | 20:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | you know the rule of vacations | 20:56 |
Sam-I-Am | time to recover = the square of the # of days off | 20:57 |
guimaluf | notmyname, hmmm my cluster it's about 15 nodes, but it's kind of prototype, so there is no much use atm | 20:57 |
notmyname | guimaluf: it's always easier to make big changes to a cluster that isn't being used :-) | 20:58 |
guimaluf | notmyname, good to now! so checklist with me :P I should do all my changes on the {account,container,object}.builder rings; rebalance; push to all my storages and let the carnage begin! am I right? :) | 20:59 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: assuming you need uptime for all of you data during the migration, I'd suggest keeping all your servers in the same DC while you rehome some (half) of them to the remote region. then when everything is moved, pack up the second region machines and truck them to the other DC | 20:59 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, hmmm. good to know. Acctualy I need to remove node -> rebalance -> add node with new region/zone-> rebalance, and then push rings. Right? | 21:02 |
coredump | ctooley is ther a way of the 'main' admin deal with a project instance? | 21:02 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: yes. and "remove" may actually be "gradually reduce the weight over time to drain the data". it all depends on your network | 21:03 |
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ctooley | coredump: I don't think I understand your question. | 21:03 |
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coredump | ctooley I have an admin user, and nova list doesn't show anything (because it's a different project I guess), but I need to reset a ninstance on project A. | 21:05 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, so I shouldn't use swift-ring-builder remove? I'm a little confuse with that rebalancing and push. I don't know if I should (remove the node -> rebalance -> push) and then (add node -> rebalance -> push) OR (remove -> rebalance -> add -> rebalance -> push). understood? :P | 21:05 |
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ctooley | then the project admin would need to add you as an admin to that project. Alternative the super administrative user (usually named "admin") can do that for you too. | 21:06 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, WOW swift it's awesome! (remove -> rebalance -> add -> rebalance -> push) it's the correct way, right? :D | 21:06 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: you should push rings and let a replication cycle pass on your boxes after every rebalance (and yes I agree that swift is aweseome) | 21:07 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, so I was wrong! :P (remove the node -> rebalance -> push) and then (add node -> rebalance -> push) is the correct way? | 21:08 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: yes, that is correct | 21:08 |
guimaluf | :( | 21:08 |
guimaluf | :/ | 21:08 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, when I did two rebalancing seems like swift reuse the partitions on the new node with new zone... That's why I though the (remove -> rebalance -> add -> rebalance -> push) was the correct way... | 21:09 |
notmyname | guimaluf: think of it this way: the ring file is simply a lookup table, so the individual swift processes can't do anything until they have the current ring. so a rebalanced ring needs to be pushed to take effect | 21:09 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, so I can do two rebalancing in sequence and then push. So it'll just lookup and see if the partition it's in the correct spot, right? | 21:10 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: you can do that, but you might have a period of unavailability of some data. pushing the rings after every rebalance will keep you with availability of your data | 21:11 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, hmmm great. so no problem doing all at once. making a big-huge-great-mtf-change, pushing and let swift deal with that. | 21:12 |
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guimaluf | it's only about data availability | 21:12 |
notmyname | "only" | 21:12 |
guimaluf | "only" :P | 21:13 |
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notmyname | it's also about saturating your network connections. which can also affect availability | 21:13 |
guimaluf | ok. but good. I will check if it's worth more to recreate the rings, or do all this data movement. Maybe I'll choose second to see how this work in practice! :) | 21:14 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, I've no words to thank you! :) | 21:14 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, rebalancing and pushing everything will be a very hard and long work... | 21:15 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: it's probably easier than creating a second cluster and doing a GET from the old cluster and a PUT into the new one | 21:16 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, yes you're right. but doing this rebalancing/push loop seems overwhelming. | 21:17 |
notmyname | guimaluf: it's not, but I will admit that it's not a trivial operational task | 21:18 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: the good news is that it can be broken down into a few repeatable steps that are then done throughout the cluster | 21:18 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, what you mean in practical terms is: I could do like a mass remove, and then a mass add, and then repeat theses step with the other part of the cluster? | 21:22 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: this predates the region stuff, but the concepts are the same. https://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/04/09/swift-capacity-management/ | 21:23 |
guimaluf | notmyname, thank you very very much! :) | 21:23 |
notmyname | guimaluf: and that's why a mass remove or a mass add isn't necessarily the best thing | 21:23 |
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guimaluf | notmyname, now I understand and you clarify my mind! | 21:25 |
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notmyname | guimaluf: glad to help | 21:26 |
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koddsson | hey hey! does anyone here do any backing up of swift in case of any catostrophic failure? | 23:02 |
notmyname | koddsson: sounds like you'd ben interested in swift's global clusters | 23:03 |
koddsson | Yeah probably! I'm pretty new to openstack and swift tbh :) | 23:04 |
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notmyname | koddsson: read over https://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/09/16/globally-distributed-openstack-swift-cluster/ and https://swiftstack.com/blog/2013/07/02/swift-1-9-0-release/ | 23:06 |
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notmyname | koddsson: the basic idea is that swift stores your data across the available geographic regions. you can build active-passive clusters or active-active ones. | 23:07 |
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notmyname | koddsson: snapshotting your swift cluster is a different question though. while possible, it's a little more difficult (eg step one is to write some plugin code) | 23:08 |
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aurynn | Replication is not backup, though. | 23:09 |
koddsson | notmyname: ok ok kewl thanks for those links, I'll check it out. | 23:09 |
notmyname | aurynn: very true | 23:10 |
koddsson | Yeah I'm wondering if the replication will protect me against accidental deletion | 23:10 |
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aurynn | koddsson: no. | 23:10 |
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notmyname | koddsson: no. that's the first major way they differ | 23:10 |
aurynn | the delete will be replicated | 23:10 |
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koddsson | Yeah so I might wanna look into both :) | 23:11 |
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koddsson | notmyname aurynn: Could I somehow prevent normal users from deleting files via keystone roles/groups? | 23:12 |
aurynn | koddsson: from within their own VMs? Or in object store? | 23:12 |
koddsson | in object store | 23:12 |
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aurynn | I'd check the policy.json for Swift. I tentatively think yes | 23:13 |
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koddsson | aurynn: oh sweet, that looks like something I can checkout. thanks | 23:14 |
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koddsson | although I'm not finding any documentation on how it works | 23:15 |
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aurynn | I was just digging into this myself; it seems relatively undocumented | 23:15 |
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koddsson | The last comment here is helpful | 23:16 |
koddsson | http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/642/what-kind-of-policies-can-be-created-using-keystone/p1 | 23:16 |
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notmyname | koddsson: two things. (1) we--swiftstack--have worked on an undelete middleware that would solve some of what you're looking for (recovering deleted files), but we haven't released it publicly yet | 23:17 |
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notmyname | koddsson: (2) let me look into what's done with keystone roles. I don't remember if it supports what you're looking for or not | 23:17 |
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koddsson | kewl thanks! | 23:18 |
koddsson | Although policy.json looks very promising | 23:18 |
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koddsson | A coworker was talking about that swiftstack middleware today I think | 23:18 |
koddsson | https://github.com/swiftstack/swift_undelete < This one? | 23:18 |
notmyname | yup that one. I'm not sure if we intended for that to be public ;-) | 23:20 |
koddsson | :D | 23:20 |
notmyname | much laughing was had in the office just now | 23:21 |
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koddsson | Hahaha that's hilarious :p | 23:23 |
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koddsson | I'm gonna let my coworker know that he stumbled on to something he shouldn't have | 23:24 |
notmyname | koddsson: aurynn: it doesn't look like the keystone+swift integration supports verb-based ACLs today. | 23:24 |
notmyname | koddsson: well it's public now :-) | 23:24 |
notmyname | koddsson: there are a couple of ways to add verb-based support to swift+keystone, but none of them have been done yet. basically, right now "write" access means you can PUT and DELETE | 23:25 |
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koddsson | ah ok, thanks :) | 23:29 |
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