Tuesday, 2014-04-29

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Kupo24zHey all, quick question; is it possible to migrate VM's between regions or only avalibility zones?01:01
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MattAitchison_I am getting an error when trying to create a volume from an image. "AttributeError: owner" http://hastebin.com/epizozehin.tex02:35
MattAitchison_Does anyone have any idea what could be causing it?02:35
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Madkissso02:59
Madkisssince when does keystone not support the "--endpoint" parameter anymore?03:00
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DoulakisGood Morning from Greece!05:46
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MmikeHello06:57
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hackooI have configured external network using RDO, the floating IP is not accessible . I looked the router gateway and other interfaces and I see network:router_gateway device is down..07:06
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nttHi. I'm using openstack havana and i'd like to upgrade to icehouse. I'm reading -> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse , but there are other guides for upgrade?07:07
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ujjain2so why must you install nova-compute in a VM on Xen and not with the other solutions?07:17
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Infitialishello I'm trying to set up openstack. I'm at the part of adding the physical external network to the external bridge. When I did that I couldn't reach the node anymore on that interface08:32
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jokke_Infitialis: have you configured IP for the bridge interface you're using at the host side?08:36
jokke_Infitialis: it's expected behavior that you can't connect over the bridge until you have configured interface for it08:36
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Infitialisjokke_: oh you mean as in define it in /etc/network/interfaces?08:37
jokke_Infitialis: okish doc regarding setting up the bridge https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections08:37
jokke_Infitialis: correct08:37
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Infitialisjokke_: ah okay I thought since it's ovs managing it that you don't have to setup that as well08:38
Infitialisjokke_: will try it :)08:38
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jokke_Infitialis: I'm not expert of ovs in any way, my 2 cents are purely from linux networking perspective08:42
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jokke_hopefully that helps still08:42
Infitialisjokke_: fair enough :) and you only need to set it up for the external bridge?08:42
Infitialisit did08:42
Infitialisthanks =)08:42
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jokke_np :)08:43
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Evidenzim currently using OpenStack Havana with Ubuntu Server 13.04 64bit can I upgrade to 14.04 without concerns?08:50
Infitialisjokke_: do you have to set up the internal bridge the same way?08:53
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JensOfSwedenWhat is the best way to integrate openstack with DNS to get dynamic updates for vms, we want the hostname (dynamicly set according to ip simular to Ec2 names) and the instance name as a cname or forward for that ip08:59
Diplomatguys, when im installing keystone and doing export OS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT09:00
Diplomatthen there's this http://controller:port09:00
Diplomatdo i have to replace controller with my server's public IP?09:00
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fifieldtdoes controller resolve to anything?09:02
Diplomatnope09:03
Diplomatmaybe i should set it in hosts file ?09:03
Diplomatbut then again other nodes might not understand it09:03
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Diplomati'll use my IP, i think it's a better idea09:03
fifieldtreading the official install docs?09:03
Diplomatyup09:03
Diplomaticehouse09:03
fifieldtunder basic environment configuration / networking / <networking mode>09:03
fifieldtthere's instructions on what to do09:03
fifieldtI'm submitting a bug that these instructions are buried too deeply09:04
fifieldtand they should be easier to find09:04
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Diplomatfound it thank you09:05
Diplomatbut do i have to make this 10.0.0.11/24 thing ?09:05
MattAitchisonDiplomat Just view it as a PDF09:05
Diplomatif i'll use multiple nodes in the future09:05
MattAitchisonIts a lot easier to follow09:05
Diplomatand maybe in different locations09:06
fifieldtit makes it much easier if you have a management network09:06
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fifieldtwhich is what this 10.0.0.x network is09:06
Diplomatyes09:06
Diplomathm09:06
fifieldtyou don't have to do it like that09:06
fifieldtbut, it helps :)09:06
Diplomatbut other compute nodes in different dcs can communicate with it too ?09:06
jokke_Infitialis: sorry, I do not know09:06
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Infitialisjokke_: thats okay, thx anyway :)09:07
fifieldtDiplomat, in that case, feel free to substitute with the public IP09:07
Diplomatyes, that's what i thought, thank you09:07
fifieldtunless you want to set up a vpn tunnel between DCs09:07
jokke_Infitialis: if you expect to be able to connect to that host (not just bridge through it) from internal, then I would assume that the answer is yes ;)09:07
Diplomatnah no need for vpn09:07
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fifieldtjust make sure you're happy with your firewalling and encryption09:08
fifieldtsensitive traffic is sent on the message bus09:08
fifieldtbut, if it's a first test install .... :)09:08
fifieldt(see also: http://docs.openstack.org/sec/)09:08
fifieldtuse public IP for now, resolve it to controller09:09
Diplomatah your point makes sense09:09
fifieldtand all will be fine09:09
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Diplomatwhat i could do really is use https and a public IP09:11
Diplomatthat way i wouldnt have to use vpn, i think09:11
Diplomathmmm An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request. (HTTP 500) when creating a keystone admin09:12
fifieldtnice :)09:13
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Diplomat:/09:13
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Diplomat:D any suggestions ?09:13
fifieldtcheck your OS_SERVICE_TOKEN is not still set to ADMIN_TOKEN :)09:13
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MattAitchisonfifieldt Do you know if you are required to use floating IPs to enable things like ssh or should it work if the router has a public ip?09:14
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Diplomatoh lol, it is :D09:14
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fifieldtMattAitchison, you don't have to use floating IPs09:14
Diplomatwait, it's not ADMIN_TOKEN it is a bunch of numbers and letters ;D09:15
Diplomatso it should be fine09:15
MattAitchisonokay, it seems like my policies arent working at all09:15
fifieldtyou can ssh into VMs using their fixed IPs09:15
fifieldtjust be sure to use the right security group settings09:15
fifieldtand, look at the networking09:15
MattAitchisonWell as soon as I set a floating IP to the instance it works.09:15
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fifieldtMattAitchison, probably a networking problem then09:15
fifieldtas in your client can't get a route to the VM for some reason09:16
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fifieldtDiplomat, check /var/log/keystone09:16
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fifieldtany interesting errors?09:18
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Diplomathmm09:18
Diplomatyes09:18
Diplomatmysql connection is wrong09:18
Diplomatfor keystone09:18
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fifieldtprobably worth fixing :)09:18
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Diplomathehe09:18
Diplomatyes09:18
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Diplomathmm09:19
Diplomatit appears, i still should resolve controller to my ip09:19
Diplomatwould make sense and prevent problems like this09:19
Diplomatbecause that server will stay as a controller09:19
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Diplomathmm09:22
Diplomatsu -s /bin/sh -c "keystone-manage db_sync" keystone09:22
Diplomatdidnt give me any errors09:22
Diplomatthat i wasnt able to connect to mysql09:22
Diplomatso it didnt create those tables n shit09:22
Diplomatnow i ran it again.. and it worked well09:22
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fifieldtexcellent :)09:22
Diplomatmaybe it would be worth reporting it ?09:23
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Diplomatto add an error when there's a problem with connecting to mysql09:23
fifieldtsomething failing without errors certainly sounds worthy of a bug report to me09:23
MattAitchisonI am back. fifieldt Did you get my last message?09:23
MattAitchisonIf my routers external gateway is a public IP and I have a security policy enabled then it should work correct? Also I know packets are hitting neutron. It seems like iptables is just dropping everything unless it is sent to a floating ip attached to an instance.09:23
fifieldthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+filebug09:23
Diplomatyay, i found my first "bug" ever09:23
fifieldtkeystone bug tracker09:24
fifieldttag it "ops"09:24
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fifieldtMattAitchison, it sounds like your VMs don't have public IPs and you need some kind of NAT setup?09:24
MattAitchisonMy router does but the VMs do not.09:26
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fifieldtok, so you probably need a static route then for the private range09:28
MattAitchisonfifieldt Here is what it looks like  https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4h8a3cpy2natpb/Screen%20Shot%202014-04-29%20at%207.27.07%20PM.png09:28
fifieldtassuming this is just for use on machines you control09:28
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fifieldtcheers for the diagram09:28
MattAitchisonThe 162.213.140.192/28 is a public range routed directly to openstack09:28
fifieldtso the questions is where are you accessing from, and where do you need to access from?09:29
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MattAitchisonI am accessing from the WAN. And I am trying to SSH into 192.168.1.1209:29
fifieldtcool09:29
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fifieldtso I believe what you'll need to do is add a static route for 192.168.0.0/24 (or whatever demo-net is) to go via gateway 162.213.140.19409:30
MattAitchisonWhenever I try to connect I the connection is refused.09:30
MerMHi, i'm looking for help trying to install havana on SLES. nova network-create times out on controller -> http://goo.gl/gAMKlB09:30
fifieldtis there another 192.168.0.0 network on the LAN where you are now MattAitchison?09:31
MattAitchisonHmm if that was the case then VMs wouldnt be able to ping 8.8.8.8 correct?09:31
fifieldtnope - VMs will be able to get out with NAT09:31
MattAitchisonah yeah thats right09:32
MattAitchisonActually that should already be setup if the gateway on my router is setup right?09:34
fifieldtyour PC needs to have the route09:34
fifieldtunless your router has it09:34
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fifieldtas in your PC's router09:35
MattAitchisonMy PC isn't trying to access 192.168.0.0 I am accessing 162.213.140.19409:35
fifieldtoh, you're running ssh  192.168.1.12 on  162.213.140.194 ?09:35
MattAitchisonCorrect09:35
fifieldtin that case, yes, it should already know about the route09:36
MattAitchisonActually if you try to ssh into 162.213.140.194 you should get the error.09:36
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Diplomatso awesome09:37
Diplomati reported my first bug ever09:37
fifieldt:D09:37
Diplomati feel special09:37
fifieldtkeep it up!09:37
Diplomati hope i did it right09:38
Infitialisis there an admin/mod available?09:38
Diplomati dont know09:38
fifieldtMattAitchison, might be some weirdness inside neutron09:38
fifieldtMy knowledge kinda fails at this point09:38
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ujjain2has anybody here got xenserver+openstack working from within virtualbox? I don't have hardware to install xenserver and it's what we use09:38
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MattAitchisonAh okay. Thanks.   I added 162.213.140.197 as a floating IP to the instance and it works.09:38
fifieldtInfitialis, I work for Openstack Foundation , how can I help?09:38
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Diplomatfifieldt, i'll pm you the link09:39
Infitialisfifieldt: it's more just an irc issue, I just got spam from a person in this channel09:39
Diplomatyea infitialis, i accidently tried to pm you09:39
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MattAitchisonfifieldt Also I have an issue with cinder. Whenever I try to create a volume from an image I get the following error. "AttributeError: owner".  Here are some logs. http://hastebin.com/ximebodufu.py09:40
Diplomataccidentally09:40
MattAitchisonI have been trying to track down this problem for a while but I haven't had any luck09:40
Diplomatit said: waiting for acknowledgement...  :/09:40
InfitialisDiplomat: no it's not you ;) unless you are advertising "dating with sexy girls" XD09:40
Diplomatoh no lol09:40
fifieldtnot good Infitialis. The IRCOps live in #openstack-infra - would you like to comment there, or send me the details and I'll get them on it?09:40
Infitialisbut I didn't get an ip either09:40
Diplomatah whatever i dont know how to pm with mirc lol09:41
InfitialisI meant I didnt get a message either09:41
Infitialisfifieldt: I'll pm you the details09:41
fifieldtMattAitchison, which backend?09:42
fifieldtLVM? gluster? etc09:42
MattAitchisonfifieldt LVM09:42
ujjain2I can't get Xen VM's to get IP's from within VirtualBox, should I just install Compute/Devstack as a VirtualBox VM instead of a XenVM?09:42
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MattAitchisonI can create and attach just fine though. I haven't tried to access the volume yet though09:42
loggiewhey guys, how is it at this early hour?09:43
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fifieldtMattAitchison, I'd suggest submitting a bug while continuing to work on it - Exceptions are bad and at the minimum if there's a problem in your config it should be replaced by a user friendly message09:43
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fifieldtloggiew, almost dinner time here :)09:43
loggiew:D09:43
loggiew6am and been here since 3am working on this mess.09:44
MattAitchisonOkay, ill try that.  Do you think it could have something to do with me using the same LVM volume group as the OS is on?09:44
fifieldthmm! could be09:44
fifieldtI know lvm filters are normally set up to ignore those09:44
MattAitchisonYeah I have set those up too09:45
Diplomatso.. im following docs.. and i dont have to make a demo account right? i can add members via horizon later09:45
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fifieldtthis is true, likely09:45
MattAitchisonI have looked into all of the log files but I haven't been able to find anything more descriptive about what is happening.   I guess it wouldn't help that I am on 14.0409:45
fifieldtinteresting that the error is coming from glanceclient09:46
MattAitchisonYeah. I have no clue what the owner field is for but I know it is null on all my images.09:46
fifieldtyeah09:46
fifieldtdid you upgrade from a previous version by any chance?09:46
MattAitchisonNope. Clean install09:46
fifieldtcool09:47
fifieldtdo you have auth_strategy=keystone in your glance confs?09:47
InfitialisDiplomat: ye you dont need the demo user09:47
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Diplomatokay thank you09:47
MattAitchisonDiplomat if its your first install I would recommend to follow the guide though.09:48
MattAitchisonfifieldt yes I do.09:48
fifieldtgood :)09:49
DiplomatMatt, that's what im doing :P09:49
Diplomatwell it's not my first install, but my first production install09:49
fifieldtMattAitchison, I think this could be a bug09:49
Diplomatim trying to do everything as correctly as possible09:49
loggiewgood luck Diplomat :)09:49
Diplomatehehee, thank you, i really need it09:49
loggiewIm gonna be in that boat shortly.09:49
Diplomatboats are good09:50
Diplomat:D09:50
fifieldthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+filebug <-- just share the logs and some sanitised conf files here09:50
loggiewya, when they don't sink09:50
Diplomatlol true09:50
Infitialisafter setting it all up my hypervisors show that I'm using qemu but I did set it up as kvm and my VM supports nested virtualization.09:50
Diplomatit's really cool.. we are being productive.. filling bug reports like bosses :D09:50
MattAitchisonfifieldt Me too. I will add it soon.09:51
loggiew:D mod skilz yo09:51
loggiewmad*09:51
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MattAitchisonI just created a volume and added it to a running windows instance and I was able to format it and everything. I just cant create a volume from an image.09:51
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DiplomatMatt im interested in windows too, did you install windows server as your parent os?09:52
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MattAitchisonNope. I used a prebuilt image.09:53
Diplomatah okay09:54
Diplomatgotta love OS api, im going to write a custom panel for client side, really cool09:55
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fifieldtsounds cool09:56
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MattAitchisonHmmm I removed the colume from my windows machine but windows still thinks it is attached.09:56
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ItxakaHey guys, to enable a custome panel for horizon, do I only need to drop it into the local directory or is it local/enable, because its not showing on icehouse final, but its working on a devstack machine09:58
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ujjain2do people run openstack environments while not actually creating vm's on their own machiens?10:00
ujjain2i see a tutorial that suggests signign up for stackmonkey, I assume they would be responsible as hypervisor then10:01
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jpichItxaka: Consider popping up on #openstack-horizon, there are folks who have experience with the plugins system there who should hopefully be able to help you10:02
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InfitialisDoes anyone know why my hypervisor says its Qemu instead of KVM, I did set it up as kvm and it has the supported virtualization extension10:06
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Diplomatguys, does it matter where i make a directory for images ?10:09
fifieldtanywhere you have space :)10:09
MattAitchisonAs long as you tell glance where it is you should be fine10:09
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Diplomatokay great10:09
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ItxakaThakns man, gonna have a look!10:09
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Diplomatwhat do you guys suggest, should I use --copy-from or just download it to my hdd ?10:13
Diplomati guess it really doesnt matter10:13
Diplomatwhen im creating images *10:13
InfitialisIs that bug of QEMU instead of KVM still in icehouse? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/119536110:15
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Diplomatalso guys, i noticed that when im adding stuff to config files via commands it adds10:17
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Diplomatand then variables10:17
Diplomat2 x default, is that normal ?10:18
InfitialisDiplomat: why not just copy paste?10:18
Diplomati dont know.. in previous docs i had to do that now with icehouse docs it's all done for you :D i like that10:19
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Er00Is there any way to automatically release floating IPs when they're disassociated? (eg if an instance is terminated)10:38
Er00My Google fu is failing me10:38
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Diplomatguys im doing this: ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex INTERFACE_NAME10:49
Diplomatthen i'll replace INTERFACE_NAME with eth1 ?10:49
Diplomatbecause I have all my public IPs eth1, eth1:1 etc10:50
Diplomatwow damn, i think here was the mistake that i had with RDO.. it thought my physical external network interface was eth0, but really it was local10:51
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mblaszczakhi, is it possible to install controller + 5 compute nodes? every machine with 2 network card + a switch between controller and compute nodes10:57
hackooI have configured external network using RDO, the floating IP is not accessible . I looked the router gateway and other interfaces and I see network:router_gateway device is down..10:57
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hackooDiplomat: ^^ I guess you have understaning of this issue..10:58
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Diplomatyea man.. i had the same problem yesterday11:01
Diplomatbut now i used eth1 and network went down11:01
Diplomatnow im trying to figure out how to remove it from ovs-vsctl11:01
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Diplomatany ideas how i can do it ?11:02
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Diplomatdel-port :P11:04
Diplomatovs-vsctl del-port eth111:05
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Tim__hee guys, i was hoping someone could help me out11:21
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Tim__I am able to assign a floating ip to an instance but im not able to reach it11:22
Tim__i am able to ping to the routers gateway11:22
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Diplomatinteresting.. i added eth0 as port11:30
Diplomatand now network works11:30
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Diplomatoh god, was configuring network node lol not compute node11:32
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Diplomatalso guys, do i have to configure nova-network when i have configured neutron ?11:38
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Diplomatstrange.. i cant connect to horizon from my pc, but when i do wget in my server i see the login page11:57
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jpichDiplomat: Firewall?11:59
Diplomatchecking it right now12:00
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DiplomatREJECT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            reject-with icmp-port-unreachable12:01
DiplomatREJECT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            reject-with icmp-port-unreachable12:01
Diplomatwut12:01
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Diplomathmm i allowed http.. but um12:04
Diplomatnothing :D12:04
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Diplomathmm12:08
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Diplomathttp://puu.sh/8s8BS.png i think im failing somewhere12:08
Diplomatyup12:08
Diplomatim allowing ssh not http :/12:09
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Diplomatnope :D still doens't work12:10
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Diplomat:D now it works.. i wrote eth0 instead of eth112:12
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deaniHello all i setup glance and keystone, keystone works properly, all glance commands are failing with Request returned failure status. HTTPInternalServerError (HTTP 50) registry.log says "Table 'glance.images' doesn't exist" and show glance in mysqldb shows only   migrate_version12:22
deaniNow i want an show table from any one of u12:23
deanifor the glance database12:23
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deanii am using icehouse/centOS12:23
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jokke_deani: have you done the db migration?12:24
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deaniwhat is that can u plz explain12:25
deanii have just done  mysql -u root -p CREATE DATABASE glance; GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON glance.* TO 'glance'@'15.242.129.162' IDENTIFIED BY 'root'; GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON glance.* TO 'glance'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'root'; exit  su -s /bin/sh -c "glance-manage db_sync" glance12:25
deanii guess the glance-maange was supposed to create all the tables12:26
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Diplomathttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1314087 any ideas guys ? im having the same problem12:34
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Diplomatwoohooo same problem like i yesterday had12:42
MattAitchisonWhat problem are you having now?12:42
Diplomathttp://puu.sh/8sa4Q.png this oen12:42
Diplomatone12:42
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Diplomatexactly like yesterday with RDO12:42
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MattAitchisonHmm12:43
deaniDiplomat: so u have the same issue12:43
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MattAitchisonDo you mind showing me your neutron.conf and removing all sensitive info?12:44
deaniguys any reason for which "glance-manage db_sync" does not create all tables12:44
deanionly migrate_version is getting created12:45
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MattAitchisondeani is it failing with any errors?12:45
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deaniall glance commands are failing with Request returned failure status. HTTPInternalServerError12:46
DiplomatMatt, I can give you access to my server or maybe mm.. teamviewer ?12:46
Diplomati dont have anything sensitive really12:46
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MattAitchisonDiplomat that would wortk12:46
deaniregistry.log says Table 'glance.images' doesn't exist12:46
deaniMatt: any clue12:46
MattAitchisondeani what OS?12:46
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deanicentos12:47
deani6.212:47
MattAitchisonHmm I haven't run it in centos yet12:47
MattAitchisonI have only tested with Ubuntu 14.0412:47
deaniya thats more popular with the devstack12:47
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Sam-I-Amdeani: did you set your database connection info in both api and registry config files?12:48
Sam-I-Amand is it correct...12:48
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deanichecking Sam:12:50
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Infitialishas anyone tried to set up ceph storage integrated into openstack?12:51
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orzelHello, i had this warning all the time with cinder/havana : "Default quota for resource: volumes_Hard Disk is set by the default quota flag: quota_volumes_Hard Disk, it is now deprecated."12:57
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orzelbug reports provide a kind of workaround (some change in db), but it never worked12:57
orzeli've just done a fresh cinder/icehouse install. and i keep on having those warnings. I don't know what to do more.. any hint / help ?12:57
orzel(but reports said it was fixed in icehouse, that's why i mention this new install)12:58
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jokke_deani: did you put those credentials to /etc/glance/ config files as well?13:13
ujjain2what is the default horizon password after devstack install?13:14
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ujjain2admin/password and demo/password is what I remember, but they give  An error occurred authenticating. Please try again later.13:14
jokke_ujjain2: do you use specified localrc?13:14
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ujjain2jokke_, no, I just installed it13:15
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jokke_well your glance-manage tries to to look the database connection from the configs ... if it does not find it, it can't connect to the db, as I suspected13:16
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jokke_ujjain2: sorry wrong one13:16
ujjain2np :)13:17
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jokke_ujjain2: so yeah you can specify the passwords in the localrc before running stack.sh13:17
jpichujjain2: "An error occurred" suggests it's an actual problem rather than a wrong password, you might want to check the apache and keystone logs13:17
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ujjain2ah yes13:20
ujjain2I still had to start it13:20
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boichevcan someone explain to me the point behind /var/lib/nova/instances/ on the kvm node ? Why is it used to store disk images ? Should'n the VM disks be saved on the cinder node ?13:38
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boichevis it normal or I have some problems with the config ?13:38
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dinosaurpthi guys13:47
dinosaurptI've run into a weird problem setting up a compute node13:47
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dinosaurptwhen I try to start the nova-compute service it fails13:48
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gmiboichev:it is normal, you can specify where the instances' disks should be stored but by default it goes in "/var/lib/nova/instances/" which is mounted on the local filestystem13:48
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dinosaurpton the logs I can see a CRITICAL error: nova [-] (OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown column 'instances.server_name' in 'field list'")...13:48
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boichevgmi can you give me a manual so I can read how to move the disks from the kvm host to the cinder host ?13:49
dinosaurptanyone has experienced the same issue?13:49
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gmiboichev: the point is to use the local storage of each compute node which gives you scalability, performance and eliminates SPOF13:49
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dinosaurptnova DB is on the last migration available (216)13:50
dinosaurptso, I'm a little bit lost...13:50
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gmiboichev: if you boot an instance from a volume, than the instance's disk will be running from cinder (see http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/boot_from_volume.html)13:51
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boichevgmi so cinder is used for the volumes and if I make my VMs with "boot from image (creates new volume)" it will put the disk on the cinder volume node and if I use "boot from image" it will create the vm disk in /var/lib/nova/instances13:51
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boichevgmi ok I got it now :) aaaaaaaa this part I missed .... :)13:51
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gmiboichev: you got it13:52
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boichevgmi thanks a lot man :)13:52
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boichevgmi will a snapshot help me move the disk from the kvm into cinder ?13:52
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Peltzidoes anyone have any idea why my keystone doesnt provide /v2.0/s3tokens even though my keystone-paste-ini (which is loaded correctly) has filter for keystone.contrib.s3:S3Extension.factory and s3_extension is in public_api and admin_api pipelines13:54
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ujjain2Has OpenStack lost momentum?13:55
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gmiboichev:no, the snapshot will get you a copy of the instance into Glance13:55
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pradzcan somebody tell me which all scripts I would need to create, in order to create a new schema/database13:57
rushiagrujjain2: no! who told you that :)13:57
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pradzI basically have a custom service, which needs its own database..I need to create a table under this new scheme13:58
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pradz*schema13:58
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ujjain2rushiagr, well, you use amazon :P14:02
screwgothHi, I'm trying to install Trove in a 3-node demo setup, but there are no files under /etc/trove after installing python-trove, trove-common , trove-api14:02
boichevgmi so is there an option to make a volume from this vm ? and avoid my current 100 disk usage :)14:02
screwgothand trove-taskmanager14:02
screwgothany idea, where I might be going wrong ?14:02
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Jackie_Hi Can anyone help me with a Neutron 2.3.0 issue with restproxy (bigswitch) plugin?14:05
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orzelcan someone explains me this ? https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/store/__init__.py#L18514:07
orzelthe for loop explicitely consider all stores in _ALL_STORES, then complains when the store is not in the user conf file.14:07
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orzeli don't understand the rational. On my system, it seems to try to initialize all of those backends, and of course, that fail because i dont have/use most of them.. ?14:07
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Jackie_014-04-29 09:43:41.478 28072 ERROR neutron.api.v2.resource [-] create failed 2014-04-29 09:43:41.478 28072 TRACE neutron.api.v2.resource Traceback (most recent call last): 2014-04-29 09:43:41.478 28072 TRACE neutron.api.v2.resource   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/neutron/api/v2/resource.py", line 84, in resource 2014-04-29 09:43:41.478 28072 TRACE neutron.api.v2.resource     result = method(request=request, **args) 2014-014:09
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InfitialisDoes anyone have experience with ceph storage integration?14:11
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boichevIs there a way to create a volume from instance ?14:17
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tejuhi all... I have 2 machines, one with keystone and cinder and another with horizon. can I point the horizon on the 2nd machine to the keystone on the 1st machine?14:23
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fifieldtyup14:23
fifieldtset OPENSTACK_HOST in your local settings14:23
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tejuanything else?14:24
fifieldtI think that should be it14:24
fifieldtkeystone contains the service catalogue, which has all of the endpoints of the services14:24
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fifieldtso horizon just asks keystone where the services are14:24
fifieldtand goes from there14:24
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tejufifieldt : ok14:26
fifieldtfirewalls too, if you haven't already :)14:27
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fifieldtport 500014:28
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tejufifieldt: ok14:29
dinosaurptInfitialis: I'm doing that now :)14:30
dinosaurptInfitialis: or at least, trying... :P14:30
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Infitialisdinosaurpt: oh okay ^^ I've got it set up but not completely working14:32
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dinosaurptInfitialis: what's left? Here only nova integration left, because nova-compute is giving me a non ceph related error14:33
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Infitialisdinosaurpt: attaching a volume to an instance14:34
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dinosaurptInfitialis: can you do me a favor?14:35
dinosaurptInfitialis: would you mind running nova-manage db version?14:35
Infitialisdinosaurpt: depends ^^14:35
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dinosaurptInfitialis: just to help me debug what's wrong with my nova db14:36
Infitialis23314:36
Infitialisdinosaurpt: ^14:36
dinosaurptInfitialis: hm... mine is 216... what the hell?14:36
deaniguys found the solution why glance-manage db-sync was not workin14:36
deanihttps://codex.wordpress.org/Converting_Database_Character_Sets14:36
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deaniu need ti change the table from latin1 to utf814:36
deanimanually14:36
dinosaurptInfitialis: what OS are you using?14:36
Sam-I-Amdeani: is this on centos?14:37
Sam-I-Amor some rhel variant14:37
Infitialisdinosaurpt: ubuntu 14.0414:37
deanicentos 6.314:37
dinosaurptInfitialis: OS Havana, right?14:37
deanii am not sure how this is related to a distro o14:37
Sam-I-Amdeani: yeah, there's some settings you need in your my.cnf14:37
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Infitialisdinosaurpt: oh you meant OS as in openstack :P14:37
Infitialisdinosaurpt: no, icehouse14:37
dinosaurptno, I really meant Operative System, :P14:38
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Infitialis-.-14:38
InfitialisGRRR14:38
Sam-I-Amdeani: its because the mysql defaults need to be changed14:38
dinosaurptInfitialis: thanks14:38
dinosaurptInfitialis: I'm deploying Havana on CentOS14:38
qhartmanI have an openstack deployment mostly working. When I try to launch instances they get stuck in the "spawning" state. I think they are failing to get the images from glance. What's the bet way to confirm or disprove that? The log files I'm looking at are pretty inscrutable.14:38
Infitialisdinosaurpt: ah okay14:38
deaniicehouse on openstack and its a documented bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=109064814:38
dinosaurptInfitialis: but I've got a weird nova db error14:38
Sam-I-Amdeani: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-database-controller.html14:39
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Infitialisdinosaurpt: ah okay sorry, I have no experience with setting up OS on Centos but what kind of error is it?14:40
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Sam-I-Amqhartman: do you see anything about image errors in the logs?14:41
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dinosaurptInfitialis: nova-compute is failing to start. it says instances tables has no column server_name14:41
qhartmanSam-I-Am, not in the logs I've looked at so far, but I'm still sifting through14:41
Sam-I-Amimage errors can be a bit vague14:42
deaniInfitialis: check yr db14:42
deaniit may be the same issue that i was facing14:42
deanido a show all tables and see what tables are created14:42
Sam-I-Amqhartman: you can also pastebin the relevant part of your log14:42
Infitialisdeani: huh?14:43
dinosaurptdeani: are you talking about the error I mentioned to Infitialis?14:43
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qhartmanSam-I-Am, yeah, pulling one chunk ot now....14:44
InfitialisI think he/she is14:44
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deaniyes i (he) am14:44
qhartmanSam-I-Am, I think this is the most relelvant one. Not sure what is timing out....14:45
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Infitialishaha deani14:45
qhartmanhttp://pastebin.com/6RkS8ydt14:45
deaniguys how to u see --debug with glance14:46
deanito see the http headers and body on the console14:46
deanikeystone it was supported  i saw14:46
Sam-I-Amdeani: you can set debug=true in the config files14:46
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deanithen i get the dump in the console14:47
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deanior have to set the syslog too14:47
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Sam-I-Amqhartman: not sure if thats the most relevant section, but its a message broker timeout. nova-compute is probably asking for X, but the controller doesnt know about X, so the compute node doesn't receive a response14:48
deanii have set verbose and true both14:48
Sam-I-Amqhartman: decent chance its a networking problem. for example, nova-compute wants a nova-net, but the controller supports neutron.14:48
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qhartmanSam-I-Am, cool, thanks for the pointer, I'll poke at that14:49
coredumpSo14:49
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deaniok u can do a glance --debug14:50
Sam-I-Amqhartman: or there's a problem with the message broker (make sure everythings connecting)14:50
deaniand combined with the conf file u get debuugs14:50
qhartmanI am trying to use nova flatmanager networking. Neutron is super overkill for what we need, and since it requires all the VM traffic to go through a bastion host, it would negatively impact performance for our local services14:50
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coredumpI am having problems with permission denied when creating instances. Changing qemu.conf dynamic_ownership to 1 (it was 0) allows me to create instances, but the files are owned by root and libvirt. My question is, instance storage should be owned by nova, but weren't the files there supposed to be created as nova too? Do I need to specify users on qemu.conf?14:50
Sam-I-Amqhartman: hmm, usually this is only an issue when configuring neutron since people sometimes to forget all of the components14:51
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MattAitchisonfifieldt I got Volumes to work :)14:53
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fifieldtawesome!14:53
fifieldtwhat was the issue?14:53
MattAitchisonWell I think14:54
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MattAitchisonI just did this "glance image-update CoreOS --owner TENANT_ID"14:54
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dinosaurptInfitialis & deani: problem solved! somehow the repos got misconfigured on this node, so I ended up with an old nova-compute version. Thank you both ;)14:54
qhartmanSam-I-Am, I can reach the AMQP server from the nova server, and it seems to be configured correctly in nova.conf14:55
Sam-I-Amqhartman: ok, so its probably a config error somewhere else14:55
MattAitchisonIt seems like everything is dying now though. "WARNING cinder.openstack.common.loopingcall [-] task run outlasted interval by 28.073912 sec"14:55
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qhartmanfwiw, I have mysql and rabbitmq, and the dashboard on one host, and glance, cinder, and nova, keystone, and nova-cloud-controller14:57
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qhartmanon another14:57
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pradzI am looking for some info on creating a new database schema for my new service..can somebody provide some pointers14:58
Sam-I-Amqhartman: thats kind of a weird arrangement14:58
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Sam-I-Amqhartman: what do you consider 'nova-cloud-controller' ?14:58
qhartmanSam-I-Am, Yeah, I'm jsut feeling things out14:58
MattAitchisonfifieldt Do you know what could cause the loopingcall errors?14:59
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qhartmanSam-I-Am, using ubuntu packages, so nova-objectstore, nova-conductor, nova-api, etc15:00
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qhartmanhttp://manage.jujucharms.com/charms/trusty/nova-cloud-controller15:02
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InfitialisIs there someone that has a working ceph integration with openstack?15:03
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Sam-I-Amqhartman: which version of ubuntu?15:03
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qhartmanSam-I-Am, 14.04 (Trusty) so it's using Icehouse for OS15:04
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Sam-I-Amso you have a controller node, what about the compute node?15:06
qhartmanSam-I-Am, Here's another trace I'm getting when trying to launch an instance: http://pastebin.com/0c0f5Tp815:06
Sam-I-Amor is it all-in-one15:06
qhartmanSam-I-Am, All in one for now15:07
qhartmanAll still very POC15:07
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Sam-I-Ami'm not making sense out of what you have running15:09
Sam-I-Amwhich is probably why it doesnt work15:09
Sam-I-Amyou're missing stuff, or have duplicated stuff15:09
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qhartmanFair enough15:10
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Sam-I-Amdid you install nova-network and nova-metadata-api anywhere?15:10
qhartmanIt looks like that netwokring failure is what is blocking stuff15:10
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qhartmanaha, that looks like the problem, the Trusty automation I'm using wants to use Neutron, so they pulled the nova-networking component out15:12
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qhartmanalright, now I have a way forward, thanks for talking it htrough15:13
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Sam-I-Amsure15:15
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qhartmanhm, it looks like it's supposed to be in there, but wasn't installed for some reason15:16
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qhartman(looking at the automation description / code now)15:16
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coredumpNo one wants to chime in on the dynamic_ownership thing?15:44
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radclifhi, does anyone have an example of a ml2_conf.ini using vlans?16:22
radclifand ovs16:22
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Diplomatguys16:40
Diplomati have this funky problem16:40
Diplomatneutron net-create ext-net --shared --router:external=True16:40
Diplomat(pyparsing 2.0.2 (/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages), Requirement.parse('pyparsing<=1.5.7'))16:40
Diplomat'Namespace' object has no attribute 'debug'16:40
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ctooleyDiplmat: Sounds like you probably have a missing = in your neutron.conf or plugin.ini.17:08
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opensti want to try  playing with openstack-neutron and VMware integration on my local machine .. does anybody have suggestion on how to do that ? Also if anybody had suggestion on how i could quickly get just openstack running that would be greatly  appreciated17:44
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hackooDo I need to have network type as provider network for external subnet to be able to access floating IPs ?18:03
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hackooFloating IPs are not accessible in my OpenStack so I am stuck with lots of docs.. Router is not able to communicate to the external network..18:03
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Diplomatguys.. has any of you really installed openstack successfully ? lol18:04
Diplomati have been reinstalling everything like 10 times already18:04
Diplomator more18:04
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loggiewhackoo, you mean you assign floating IP's and are unable to access the machine from the internal network? Or do you mean that you are unable to assign floating IP's?18:08
loggiewOr that it all works and just does not allow inbound/outbound on those floating IP's from the router to the internet?18:09
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: i have... maybe 30-40+ successful installs now?18:09
Diplomatgod damn18:10
Diplomat:(18:10
DiplomatIs it possible to hire you or something ?18:10
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Sam-I-Ami think you might be going about something the wrong way18:10
Sam-I-Amhahah18:10
loggiewDiplomat, what docs are you following?18:10
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DiplomatI'm super serious really18:10
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: still using rdo/packstack?18:10
DiplomatI needed my server up last night and today I have been failing like..18:10
Diplomatyes I tried RDO again as well18:11
Diplomatand I have been following icehouse docs18:11
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Diplomatand I still fail and it makes me want to puke a little , tired of it :/18:11
Diplomatim wasting time and money here :/18:11
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hackoologgiew: I am able to assign floating IP but unable to access it.. I tried pinging VM from qrouter namespace using ip netns exec namespace ping Floating IP command and it work but I am not able to ping public subnet gateway from the router.18:11
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hackoologgiew: Now sure what configuration is not working between router and public subnet.18:12
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: can you run VMs or come up with 3 boxes?18:12
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: also curious what you're trying to accomplish18:12
Sam-I-Amjust a PoC where you can launch a vm?18:13
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loggiewhackoo, a couple possible problems. If you are unable to get outbound though you might look at two things in particular18:13
loggiewfirst, check that you have routes setup properly18:14
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loggiewI found that when the cluster came down (i literally tripped on my power cord for the Dev cluster) routes weren't operational when it came back online18:14
Sam-I-Ami thought tripping on a power cord was a joke18:14
loggiewI had to: route add default gw ${router_ip}18:14
loggiewSam-I-Am, yes when you don't have a disorganized environment18:14
hackoologgiew: I checked "ip netns exec qrouterNamespace route -n" and it looks good. So you mean to say my router IP and the public subnet gateway should be same ?18:15
DiplomatSam: well yes, I'm able to come up with 3 boxes and what im trying to accomplish is build multiple vms with unique ips.. that's it18:15
hackoologgiew: I have all in one openstack installation. It's single node.18:15
DiplomatI could really use even SolusVM LOL18:15
Diplomatit does the job too18:15
Diplomatbut I'd like to use OS18:16
loggiewhackoo, you are able to ping the router, correct?18:16
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: so the install guide should work for you then assuming you can follow the prescribed architecture. or two nodes if you want to use nova-net instead of neutron.18:16
hackoologgiew: not form outside (from where my floating IP should be accessible.) I am able to ping router from the VM.18:16
hackoofrom*18:16
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DiplomatWell I think I have followed it.. but I don't know.. I think I'm not very nub, I understand wtf is going on.. but for some reason it doesn't work for me.. no idea what I'm doing wrong18:17
loggieware you able to ping an external system from the node? (the node, not the vm)18:17
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: well, the install guide doesn't use packstack18:18
hackoologgiew: Yes I am.18:18
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: you install ubuntu, then install each service using packages18:18
hackooLet me fetch some command outputs.18:19
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loggiewhackoo, have you run a traceroute to see where it is blocking?18:19
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hackooI did this too. I tried traceroute from the Router Namespace and it block on the router gateway itself..18:20
hackooLet me check it again.18:20
loggiewa traceroute from the VM blocks at the router?18:20
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DiplomatSam: packages ?18:21
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: yeah, like apt-get install <stuff>18:21
Diplomatah lol18:22
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hackooI am unable to login to VM and doing traceroute using Namespaces... let me check the traceroute to the gateway from the private subnet namespace..18:22
DiplomatSam: any docks about it?18:23
loggiewhackoo, you are unable to login to the VM? At all?18:23
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hackoologgiew: Yes. because the floating IP assigned to it is not accessible from outside.18:24
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hackooLet me collect some data in pastebin to show you..18:24
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loggiewerm18:24
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Diplomatdocs* gd18:24
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/18:25
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Diplomatif it gets set up one day, ill take a 2 week vacation on bahamas18:27
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Sam-I-Ami need a two week vacation to the bahamas18:28
Sam-I-Ami can pretty much guarantee that install guide works to where you can launch an instance18:29
Sam-I-Ami wrote a significant part of it18:29
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Diplomathmm18:34
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Diplomathmmmm18:34
Diplomatokay nice :D18:34
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loggiewno one here happens to have utilized the ssh daemon called dropbear before have they?18:40
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Sam-I-Amits usually an embedded ssh daemon18:41
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loggiewyes. And I am having a problem with it. I am placing it in initramfs so I can do LUKs drive decryption remotely. If you have any knowledge of it perhaps I can ask my question?18:42
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Sam-I-Ami dont know much other than what it is18:42
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loggiewok18:42
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t4nk275hi18:45
t4nk275I have added my own custom text box field in the form 'Launch Instance' page. For that, I modified the following file: /usr/share/openstack-dashboard/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/instances/workflows/create_instance.py. I added text box in the above script as follows: sample = forms.CharField(max_length=15, label=_("Sample"), required=True) Now, I want to access the posted value of the above field. For that, I tried  samp18:45
t4nk275and  sample_field = context.get('sample',None) and i am not able to succeed in either of the steps can anyone suggest me a way to do so Thanks in advance18:46
gmiSam-I-Am:any idea why I get the "MessagingTimeout: Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID" when spawning instances? I followed the official guide with controller+neutron node + compute node with openvswitch and GRE, the GRE tunnels are up between neutron node and compute, the keystone, glance and nova api work fine18:47
Sam-I-Amgmi: whats the output of 'nova service-list' and 'neutron agent-list' ?18:49
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gmiSam-I-Am: images get scheduled to the only compute node and I can see it starts to spawn there which means AMQP connectivity is fine and I can properly create nets + subnets so Neutron also works fine, but all instances end in error :(18:50
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gmiSam-I-Am:all is ok there18:51
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Sam-I-Amwhats the output in the nove compute log?18:51
hackoologgiew: Please see the details I have collected around my environment. It has good details of the configuration and command output. You might better help me after watching this. http://pastebin.com/S63VkSL118:51
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gmiSam-I-Am: http://pastebin.com/YE3JxzDj for the services and agents18:52
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gmiSam-I-Am: and the nova-compute.log http://pastebin.com/ZXAG0H7D18:56
Sam-I-Amone sec...18:56
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Sam-I-Amgmi: what distro/version?19:00
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coredumpcan someone tell me the results of their commands: id nova, id libvirt-qemu ?19:01
Sam-I-Amcoredump: those should change per system19:02
gmiSam-I-Am: Ubuntu 12.04 with icehouse repo19:02
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coredumpI don't want the UIDs, I want the group memberships19:02
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Sam-I-Amgmi: what kernel?19:03
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gmiSam-I-Am: 3.11.0-20-generic19:03
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Sam-I-Amcoredump: http://pastebin.com/0CsJbgEA19:04
Sam-I-Amgmi: whats the permissions of the kernel image in /boot on the compute node?19:04
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gmiSam-I-Am: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5911008 Apr  3 13:50 /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-20-generic19:04
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Sam-I-Amok19:05
coredumpSam-I-Am: thanks. my OS is creating the instance files as nova:kvm or libvirt-qemu:kvm. I was concerned, but since it's working **** it19:05
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Sam-I-Amgmi: does your compute node support hardware accel for VMs?19:06
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Sam-I-Amgmi: in other words, are you using kvm or did you switch to qemu19:06
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coredumpSam-I-Am: aren't those the same?19:06
Sam-I-Amcoredump: kvm and qemu?19:07
coredumpy19:07
Sam-I-Amsort of19:07
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Sam-I-Amkvm uses hardware acceleration functions, qemu is more emulation19:07
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Sam-I-Ambasically.. kvm is optimized for x8619:07
gmiSam-I-Am:KVM, the hardware is fine and it was running Essex for a long time; I have Grizzly also in a separate env with OVS+GRE and it works fine19:08
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Sam-I-Amon the compute node, what do you see for 'lsmod | grep kvm' ?19:08
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coredumpah ok, kvm is a branch of qemu now? Or still qemu using kvm19:10
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gmiSam-I-Am: the kvm was not loaded, I loaded it and started a new instance with same error; I'll go over everything once again, it probably needs just some more love :)19:12
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Sam-I-Amgmi: libvirt-bin needs a reload after loading the module19:12
Sam-I-Amand probably nova-compute19:13
Sam-I-Amgmi: there's an issue with ubuntu 12.04 and backport kernels... they don't autoload the kvm modules, but the init script assumes kernels >3.4 do.19:13
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Sam-I-Amgmi: i *just* submitted a workaround to the install guide for this problem19:14
Diplomatdamn..19:14
Diplomatubuntu is much nicer than centos19:14
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: i'd venture to say openstack is a little better tested on it19:14
Diplomathm19:14
Diplomatwell19:14
Diplomatwe will see :D i really hope i'll be able to start using it asap19:15
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Diplomatwhen i have 1TB disk19:17
Diplomathm19:17
Diplomatwhat kind of partitions i should make ?19:17
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Diplomathuehue i'll go all in19:17
gmiSam-I-Am:thanks but it didn't help, same error; should we follow the trunk doc instead of icehouse then?19:17
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Sam-I-Amactually trunk and icehouse are one and the same right now19:18
Sam-I-Amit'll change in a few weeks19:18
Sam-I-Amgmi: i wonder if there's an issue with python-guestfs19:18
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Sam-I-Amgmi: first thing, in rc.local ... put 'modprobe kvm_intel'19:19
Sam-I-Amassuming you have an intel cpu19:19
Sam-I-Ambefore the 'exit 019:19
Sam-I-Amthen reboot the node19:19
Diplomathm Sam do I really need 3 machines ?19:19
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: technically no. 3 VMs work too. however, the guide prefers 3 nodes with neutron because its mentally easier to separate them and troubleshoot the flow of network traffic19:20
Diplomathmm19:22
Diplomatsmallest servers i have are X3430 8GB machines :(19:23
Sam-I-Amonce you understand how all the services work together, you can consolidate19:23
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Diplomatmakes no sense to reserve them for that network and controller purposes19:23
Sam-I-Amhowever, in production you probably wouldnt consolidate too many things19:23
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: can you install vmware on one box?19:23
Diplomathmm19:23
Diplomatso 1 machine acts as a controller and network ?19:24
Sam-I-Amor all three nodes... just each running as a VM19:24
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Diplomatso i virtualize virtualization19:25
Sam-I-Amfor a PoC its probably ok, but not for production. does your hardware support nested virtualization accel?19:25
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DiplomatI have no idea19:26
Sam-I-Amall of my environments run on VMs19:26
Sam-I-Ammainly for testing though19:26
DiplomatX34030 probably not19:26
Sam-I-Amdo any of them have linux on them now?19:26
DiplomatRight now I'm working with E3-1240 v319:26
Sam-I-Amif so, run this: egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo19:26
Diplomatwell I can get them on demand.. whenever and whatever os19:26
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Sam-I-Amif it returns a 1, the cpu supports hardware accel19:27
DiplomatE3-1240 reported 819:27
DiplomatI haven't tried on other machiens19:27
Diplomatmachines19:27
Sam-I-Amthat means it has 8 cores?19:27
Diplomat4 with HT19:27
Sam-I-Amso its good19:27
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Sam-I-Amok19:27
Sam-I-Ami'd turn off HT for systems running VMs19:28
Diplomathmm why19:28
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Sam-I-Amthere's a doc around here somewhere about it19:28
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Diplomatisnt E3 servers  meant for virtualization ?19:29
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DiplomatIknow many hosts who use E3s with OS or other virtualization soft19:29
Sam-I-Amwhat is E3?19:29
DiplomatIntel E3-XXXX19:29
DiplomatCPU19:29
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DiplomatI'm using this right now: http://ark.intel.com/products/75055/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1240-v3-8m-cache-3_40-ghz19:30
_cmd_i have a few of those19:30
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: you can just turn HT off19:30
DiplomatSam, if you scroll down there you see all kinds of virtualization features19:31
DiplomatI prefer E3-1230 v2 it's nice19:31
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WormManwe leave VT on as several guides indicate it can improve performance, but our scheduler only counts physical cores when scheduling19:34
WormManer not VT, HT19:34
Sam-I-Aminteresting19:35
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Sam-I-Amwell, i guess ymmv based on the types of VMs you run19:35
Sam-I-Amand perhaps the hypervisor19:35
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Sam-I-Amgmi: what happened?19:43
Diplomati cant believe i spent um19:44
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Diplomat14 hours today19:44
Diplomaton failing installing os19:44
Sam-I-Amwell.. i dont think OS was your problem here19:45
Diplomatto install19:45
Diplomatwell19:45
Diplomatyes :D19:45
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Diplomatok ill get a second server and try again :D19:54
Diplomatwould a 4GB RAM 2 core 2.8ghz machine work ?19:55
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Sam-I-Amsure... whats your layout look like now? still 3 nodes?19:58
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tracphilDoes anyone know the future status of nova-network?20:00
Sam-I-Amtracphil: its around for at least one more cycle20:00
Sam-I-Ambut i think we keep saying that20:00
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Sam-I-Amproblem is there's a few things neutron can't do yet, at least easily20:01
Sam-I-Amparticularly around redundancy20:01
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tracphilSam-I-Am: why the push to centralize networking instead of taking it off the compute nodes?20:01
tracphilahhh, that is why I like it as well.20:01
Sam-I-Amultimately i think neutron will spread out20:01
Sam-I-Amits just taking time to distribute all of the features it had20:02
Sam-I-Amhas20:02
tracphilgotcha20:02
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DiplomatSam, well I'm thinking about setting up something else right now because I don't have time to mess with OS :/20:11
Diplomatand set it up later20:11
Sam-I-Amdoh20:11
Diplomatlike seriously.. i don't know why i fail so much20:11
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Diplomati could try to install some virtualization thingy to my machine and make it 320:12
Diplomatbut.. it takes time again :S20:12
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Diplomatweird thing was that I was able to set up RDO to 2 nodes perfectly20:15
Diplomatand I saw them in dashboard20:15
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Diplomatand when I used RDO now.. like hour or 2 ago.. it failed to spawn instances20:16
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Pryanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/131006021:13
Pryansomebody knows how to solve it =21:13
Pryan?21:13
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KaaKdoes openstack offer an images with a fullly configured openstack setup preconfigured on it?22:16
pdevineare more people using gunicorn or uwsgi these days with horizon?22:16
pdevine(and nginx)22:16
KaaKnot an image to be run on openstack, but an image with the stack itself -- all ready to be evaluated/tested22:17
pdevineKaaK:  I think devstack is the easiest way to get up and going to kick the tires22:18
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KaaKpdevine, huge thanks. about all google would net me were results for openstack-ready images22:19
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pdevineKaaK:  I haven't tried those, so YMMV.. my concern with prebuilt images is there are so many different ways to configure OS, that you'll probably end up with an architecture you don't want22:21
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DiplomatGuys, does anybody wants to earn some money or knows some premium services that could help me with OpenStack installation and configuration ?22:27
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Sam-I-Amjust trying to get your PoC going?22:28
offby1KaaK: http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/rackspace-private-cloud-sandbox is _almost_ what you want22:29
DiplomatI have had enough lol22:29
Diplomatwhat's poc ?22:29
offby1Proof of Concept22:29
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Diplomatumn22:30
Diplomatok22:30
Diplomatwell but it is a serious offer/question22:30
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: you just want to see it launch an instance, right?22:30
Diplomatso yea..22:30
Diplomatnaw Sam22:30
Sam-I-Amwhat exactly do you want?22:30
DiplomatI need to deploy tons of vms22:30
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Sam-I-Amwell yeah... but you need a working system first to understand how all of the parts work22:30
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Diplomatthat's why I'd like somebody's help because I seriously can't afford to mess around anymore22:37
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pdevineOpenStack isn't really for the feint at heart22:37
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Diplomatthis is why companies hire people to manage difficult things for them22:37
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Sam-I-Amwhat are you stuck on?22:43
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pdevineI'm trying to figure out why uwsgi dies occasionally with horizon22:46
pdevineor at least hangs22:46
pdevineI should say22:46
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offby1s/feint at/faint of/22:56
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* offby1 , nit-picking people's cliché usage since 198322:56
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Sam-I-Amlol22:56
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qhartmanok, after poking at it some more through the day, I have nova-networking mostly setup, with my hosts getting dhcp leases from my global dhcp server like I want them to22:57
qhartmanbut I can't actually talk to them22:58
qhartmanI assume there is some routing on the compute node or somehting I've gotten wrong22:58
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qhartmanany pointers for docs that look at the FlatManager (not FlatDHCPManager) setup? I have found very little that work for that.22:58
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qhartmaninterestingly, "nova list" is showing some arbitrary ip that it seems to be pulling from the cidr I gave it when setting up the network, rather than the ip the machines seems to be getting from the dhcp server as shown in the log output23:00
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Sam-I-Amby flatmanager, you mean openstack doesn't offer dhcp?23:01
qhartmanSam-I-Am, yes. I'd prefer that my existing dhcp server handle addressing the VMs23:02
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Sam-I-Amthe question is how openstack learns about the IP of each instance23:02
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Sam-I-Amyou might have to use the metadata service23:03
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qhartmanand I have installed that. It seems to pull it's config from the existing nova.conf23:03
cference+and I have installed that. It seems to pull it's config from the existing nova.conf23:03
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qhartmanbut I haven't looked at it in detail yet23:04
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qhartmansetting it to use the DHCP manager lets stuff work if I define the net to be an unused but still routable portion of my network23:18
qhartmanso that's something23:18
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Sam-I-Ambecause nothing is fighting over dhcp?23:23
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qhartmanSam-I-Am, well, assuming that the dnsmasq server is only visible on the host (which it seems to be ) it shouldn't interfere with dhcp on the rest of the network23:35
qhartmanand it allows the rest of the openstack magic to correctly configure routing23:36
qhartmanso the VM can talk on the netwokr23:36
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qhartmanbut it doesn't get added to my global dynamic DNS this way, which is a bummer, and I have to be sure I configure the ranges to not overlap, but it's livable23:36
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Sam-I-Ami think the only way to do flatmanager without dhcp is filling in the footwork that informs openstack of what's going on23:38
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Sam-I-Ameither openstack talks to your dhcp server (rather than its own) or you play with metadata23:38
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qhartmanright23:38
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Sam-I-Amby default its just talking to dnsmasq23:38
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qhartmanand I may dig into that, but like I said, this is livable23:39
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qhartmandepends on how much pressure I get to be "done" and have this stack to a place that we can use it.23:39
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qhartmanugh, dnsmasq doesn't seem to be listening to the gateway config I thought I gave it though23:40
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qhartmanI thought adding "gateway=1.2.3.4" to the nova.conf would have dnsmasq set that as the default route for the vms23:41
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qhartmancurrently, it's beiong set to the host's br100 ip23:41
qhartmanif I change it to be the real gw, it works fine though23:41
qhartmanjsut have to figure out how to tell it to do the right thing from the get go23:41
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Sam-I-Ami havent messed much with nova-net23:44
cference-i havent messed much with nova-net23:44
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Sam-I-Amspend more time with neutron23:44
qhartmansure23:44
qhartmanagain, thanks for talking things out23:44
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Sam-I-Amone of these days i need to mess with nova-net more23:49
qhartmanEh, if you need neutron, I'm not sure it would serve you much since it's being deprecated.23:49
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qhartmanI'm only using it because neutron really won't work for me23:50
cference+I'm only using it because neutron really won't work for me23:50
qhartmanwhat's with the cference thing?23:50
Sam-I-Ami contribute to the install guide, and the neutron stuff was pretty broken for a long time... so i made an effort to fix it.23:50
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qhartmanI just hope Neutron becomes usable for me before nova-net goes away23:50
qhartmanah, gotcha23:50
Sam-I-Ami think that was part of the reason people werent wanting to try it23:50
Sam-I-Amtoo many bad experiences roaming around with just getting it to work23:51
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qhartmanright23:51
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qhartmanI'm having the same problem  with nova-net23:51
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qhartmanand of course it's getting made worse since I've been leaning on JuJu automation to get it up, and they seem to have removed all the support from nova-net from it without updating the docs at all23:52
Sam-I-Amthere are better-tested or wider-used architectures with both nova and neutron23:52
qhartmanyeah23:52
Sam-I-Amthe 'problem' with openstack is the lack of ways to implement stuff23:52
Sam-I-Amrather, there's too many permutations23:53
qhartmanright23:53
qhartmanI looked at crowbar, but that gave me the heebs23:53
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Sam-I-Amsometimes it takes a new paradigm for your physical network to implement virtual networking the best way23:53
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qhartmanand I'm inclined to use chef since I already use it for AWS, but the bare metal handling of MAAS is very attractive, and it lead to juju23:54
Sam-I-Amfor example... should the physical network simply become a very simple, reliable layer that provides basic L2 or L3 functions23:54
qhartmanand of course they made a lot of claims about how the openstack stuff would jsut work23:54
qhartmanwhee23:54
Sam-I-Amfor a first-time openstack install i'd be reluctant to try automation23:54
qhartmanright23:54
Sam-I-Amtoo many moving parts23:54
qhartmanyeah, but I'm going to need it long term23:55
qhartmanand I'm used to digging into the guts23:55
qhartmanand I've got the automation parts more or less worked out, modulo the nova-net problems23:55
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