Friday, 2014-06-20

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Poultrahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRxXDHZ6T-800:29
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Poultragerman- horse00:30
Poultra:p00:30
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bzzeiglerjgriffith, you wouldn't happen to know who it was that was at hostingcon for Openstack, do you?01:03
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Poultrahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq4oB-6FNp801:09
Poultra:p01:09
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kypeHi guys. I have a bit of issue here, my VMs are able to ping the host machine/ google.com, but my host machine is unable to ping the VMs. I am getting destination host unreachable01:54
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kypeI figured the problem to be my gateway down: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward02:25
kypeignore the *cat sorry02:26
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kypeis there any way to make the router_gateway up?02:50
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robin__hi all03:42
robin__anyone know how to import vmdk which i created from virtualbox to openstack ?03:43
robin__should i convert it first ?03:43
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kypeIs there any way to disable the public network in vm?04:16
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ramonskiei had a slow horizon and bumped in to this blog http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/12/12/cleanup-keystone-tokens/ after i executed that script i'm not able to use the api anymore with test-kitchen or bosh (tools that uses the openstack api to create vm's  i already did a "keystone-manage db_sync"  o and i'm still on grizzly09:21
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dANOKELOFFhi guys, anyone can explain me how use and create a replication in SAIO swift ? Because I really dont understand that09:50
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MattAitchisonAnyone here have some experience with CoreOS?09:56
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engkurap10:00
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Hubertus;]10:11
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giorgishi! can someone help me a little bit with a communication problem I am facing...??10:12
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AGPXHi, I have the following error:10:18
AGPX[root@openstackctrl nova(keystone_admin)]# nova list10:18
AGPXERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-c034a155-4c6f-4899-868b-c1c818e0f71f)10:18
AGPXthis happen suddenly without apparently no reason10:19
AGPXany idea?10:19
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AGPXAnd no info are reported in the log files10:19
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AGPXthat is, in /var/nova no log files reports this error10:20
dmitrymeAGPX: the error could have come from the Keystone, check its logs as well10:21
_ale_1hi guys - am trying to create a kvm image for openstack (centos 6.5) and all is working fine, except, it's not re-sizing the root partition ... we use LVM .. but the document doesnt seem to cover LVM with cloud-init ? http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ch_openstack_images.html10:21
_ale_1anyone got any ideas / suggestions how to get the resize done with lvm and cloud-init ?10:21
AGPXthe keystone.log have date Jun 20 12:2110:22
AGPX(my time right now)10:22
AGPXbut when I look at it, I have:10:22
AGPX2014-06-20 10:17:19.671 3038 INFO access [-] 129.0.30.143 - - [20/Jun/2014:08:17:19 +0000] "POST http://129.0.30.143:5000/v2.0/tokens HTTP/1.0" 200 130910:22
AGPX2014-06-20 10:17:19.725 3038 IN[root@openstackctrl keystone(keystone_admin)]#10:22
AGPXas last lines10:22
AGPXthat is, it stop at 10:1710:22
AGPXlook likes truncated10:22
AGPXoh10:24
AGPXdisk full?10:24
_ale_1:)10:24
AGPXno10:24
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_ale_1oom? segfault?10:24
AGPXI have tried cp keystone.log kk.log and it works (9Mb)10:25
AGPXso no disk full10:25
dmitrymeAGPX: check commands like ‘keystone tenant-list’ or ‘keystone catalog’10:25
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AGPXdmitryme: they works10:26
AGPXdf -h says:10:27
dmitrymehmm, probably its not keystone fault then10:27
AGPXFilesystem                            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on10:27
AGPXtmpfs                                 2.0G   72K  2.0G   1% /dev/shm10:27
AGPX"/dev/mapper/vg_openstackctrl-lv_root   50G   48G     0 100% /"10:27
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AGPXthis: http://pastebin.com/PzVJYxZb10:28
AGPXmaybe due to the first line?10:28
AGPXall the logs files look likes truncated10:29
AGPXthe last line of keystone.log is:2014-06-20 10:17:19.725 3038 IN10:30
AGPXending with "IN"10:30
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tomixxx7good hint: dont set up each vm manually. create one vm, make a snapshot and create the other instances from the snapshot. :-)10:31
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dmitrymeAGPX: I am pretty sure that you’d better clean up root parttition10:36
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giorgisis there a way to configure the IP address of the bridge interface??10:37
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Etherushi does anyone know what I would need to add so packstack uses a different ssh port then 22?10:39
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Etheruscannot see any option for it in the packstack --help10:49
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AGPXok solved11:07
AGPXdisk full issue11:07
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ramonskieany here that can help me with my problem11:15
ramonskiei had a slow horizon and bumped in to this blog http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/12/12/cleanup-keystone-tokens/ after i executed that script i'm not able to use the api like "nova host-list" i get a 401 error  i already did a "keystone-manage db_sync"  o and i'm still on grizzly11:16
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zmielnawonder if I can pickup your brain on problem I've got with neuron component13:25
zmielna3 nodes, one has two roles (controller+network ) two remaining nodes are compute13:25
zmielnaI'm using openvswitch plugin with gre tunneling13:26
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zmielnaeach server has two NIC, first is public nwework, second openstack-only networks13:26
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zmielnanow, I can create openstack external network, internal network and router, can crate instance connected to those networks13:27
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zmielnabut no traffic goes through13:27
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zmielnaand on Network topology "router_gateway    DOWN" and "router_interface    DOWN"13:28
zmielnaNow the question, why they're down?13:28
zmielnahow do I troubleshoot this?13:28
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larskszmielna: with tcpdump, starting on the compute host, then both sides of the gre tunnel, then inside the router namespace...figure out how far your packets are getting.  You probably want to use something like the Cirros image so that you can log in on the console and start something like the dhcp client in an infinite loop to generate traffic for testing.13:35
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zmielnathanks, i've got cirros13:36
zmielnacan you tell me....13:36
zmielnahow output from "ovs-vsctl show13:36
zmielna" should look like?13:36
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zmielnabecasue I suspect something is not right here13:37
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larsksSure. Give me a second...13:37
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zmielnathat's what I've got on compute http://pastie.org/private/j4ehaihbl1ltahclpswyq13:38
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zmielnaand that's what I;ve got on network node http://pastie.org/private/teickvpia1j8klbiiwnq13:39
zmielnabeen folowing two guides and I'm completly confused now :-)13:40
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larsksThat looks reasonably sane.  It is a little unusual to see br-ex on the compute nodes, although that can be a valid configuration depending on how you have set things up.  If you are attaching instances to that network directly as a provider network that makes sense, but if you're assining floating ips on that network you would only expect to see it on the neutron network node (your controller in this13:43
larskscase).13:43
zmielnaoh, OK13:43
zmielnawasn't sure of I need br-ex on compute13:44
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zmielnaso compute nodes doens't need because VMs traffic will go through GRE tunnel, is that right?13:44
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zmielnasorry for being daft13:45
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larsksRight.  Floating ips are handled as NAT rules on the neutron router, to external traffic from the instances goes through the GRE tunnel to the neutron host, and then out br-ex via the associated neutron router.13:45
larsksFor reference, here is ovs-vsctl show on my compute nodes: http://chunk.io/f/c56c4c4de84843368c2481a12fa6f4fd13:45
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larsksAnd on my neutron host: http://chunk.io/f/d5075f6d425740268a2ce97318fcb29313:47
larsks...although notice that br-ex isn't actually configured yet, because I was just spinning up a new environment.13:47
zmielnathank you - so all these gre/vxlan ports are getting created by neutron-openvswitch-agent on compute nodes, right?13:47
zmielnaI don't need to add them manually, do I?13:48
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larsksThat's correct; the ovs-agent handles setting up all the interface plumbing.13:49
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zmielnaok, cheers for clarifiaction13:49
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zmielnafrom your experience, how unresonable is to run network and controller roles on the same host?13:50
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zmielnaI'm seeing "Agent tunnel out of sync with plugin!" in /var/log/neutron/openvswitch-agent.log on compute13:52
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larskszmielna: It is fairly common to run the networker and controller roles on the same host.13:55
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zmielnathank you13:55
larsksE.g., the "packstack" tool from RedHat sets this up by default.13:55
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zmielnado you think this "Agent tunnel out of sync with plugin!" message might be a clue for sorting my issues?13:56
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larskszmielna: Let me take a quick look at my logs...13:57
zmielnaI just ran yum update - updated some openstack-icehouse packages and restarted all three hosts13:57
valeechDoes anyone have any experience moving a vm from one openstack cluster to another?13:57
zmielnanow in Network topology router is reporting "router_interface    ACTIVE" and "router_gateway    DOWN"13:58
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larskszmielna: That may be normal.  I don't have convenient access to my web gui right now.13:59
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larskszmielna: If you are continuing to see the "out of sync" messages that is probably indicative of a problem.  Looking at my logs, I have a  few, possibly from when the ovs-agent first started up, but they should not continue.13:59
zmielnawould that mean that agent is unable to contact ermmm  neuron server service?14:00
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larskszmielna: I *think* so.  Do you see successful amqp connections in the log? Eg., something like Connected to AMQP server on 10.20.0.202:567214:01
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zmielnalarsks: yes, I use rabbitmq and I believe all nodes can contact this service OK14:03
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larskszmielna: I should have asked earlier, but are your instances able to get a lease from dhcp?14:04
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tomixxx7wow guys, parallization gives amazing results. first, i dont understand the results, know i understand them. now i understand why i need clouds14:05
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zmielnalarsks: i *think* so, I've got subnet 10.0.0.0/24 and ubuntu vm is getting 10.0.0.114:06
larsksIf you log into that system, what is the default gateway?14:06
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zmielnalarsks: hold on a sec, this ubuntu image dosn't have p/w so only key auth. I need to spin up cirros as you suggeste earlier14:07
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radosevicHello, can somebody help me? I made new IceHouse deployment with Fuel 5.0 (Ubuntu, Multi-node HA, KVM, Neutron with GRE, Cinder CEPH, Glance CEPH). The problem is that now I can't start new instances...14:23
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zmielnalarsks: OK, I've got it, gateway looks as expected, instance IP is 10.0.0.3 and g/w is 10.0.0.254 (this is what I set when defining network)14:25
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larskszmielna: Okay.  And from the instance, can you ping the gateway?14:25
zmielnayes, I;m getting response from g/w when pinging14:26
larsksThat suggests that the bulk of your networking is functioning correctly.  What is *not* working?14:26
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zmielnanow, interesting bit (well sort of interesting), on network node14:26
zmielna"ip netns exec qrouter-f8f9e5fd-b309-42a1-91bc-eacbbebef3d9 ip a"14:26
larsksOh, also, can you access the metadata service? On the instance, 'curl http://169.254.169.254/' should get a valid response.14:27
zmielnashows two ports, one with 10.0.0.254/24 and second with my public address14:27
zmielnaso far, so good14:27
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larskszmielna: Right, that sounds fine.14:27
zmielnabut ip netns exec qrouter-f8f9e5fd-b309-42a1-91bc-eacbbebef3d9 ping 10.0.0.314:28
zmielnais not working14:28
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larskszmielna: That may just be a security group issue.  Have you added rules to the appropriate security group to permit inbound icmp access?14:28
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larsksradosevic: If you can't start new instance, you need to start looking through your logs to see what sort of errors are there.  Probably /var/log/nova/* on both your controller and compute hosts are worth checking.14:29
zmielnaHmmm, I've got default groups, IngressIPv4Any-default14:29
zmielnagressIPv4Any-0.0.0.0/0 (CIDR)14:29
zmielnaIngressIPv6Any-default14:30
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zmielnaEgressIPv6Any-::/0 (CIDR)14:30
larskszmielna: Can you just pastebin that instead of pasting it in-channel?14:30
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zmielnayes, sorry :-)14:30
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larsksMaybe the output of "neutron security-group-rule-list"14:30
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radoseviclarsks: The problem is somehow with dashboard interface... I get this error when trying to start instance... "Error: An error occurred. Please try again later."14:35
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zmielnaohh, man14:35
zmielnaI can ping putside world from cirros vm14:36
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radoseviclarsks: I can't find anything useful in nova logs...14:36
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zmielnaso...14:36
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zmielnait was security group messed up, grrrrrrrr14:36
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larsksradosevic: You should start by tailing all the nova logs when you boot an instance and see what gets logged at that point.14:37
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larsksradosevic: To make sure it's not just a web ui issue, consider testing from the command line first.14:38
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radoseviclarsks: ok... will try from cli first14:38
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radoseviclarsks: it seems like problem with nova-api14:47
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radoseviclarsks: when i try to list images "nova image-list" sometimes i get list but mostly i get "ERROR: <attribute 'message' of 'exceptions.BaseException' objects> (HTTP 504)"14:47
zmielnalarsks: just wanted to say thank you14:48
larskszmielna: Glad to help!14:48
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larsksradosevic: consider running 'nova image-list' with the --debug flag to see what url is generating the 504 error.  This might help identify a problem with keystone vs. a problem with nova-api.  Of course, looking in the logs for those services may also show something up.14:49
zmielnalarsks: sometimes having someone with a fresh look is so helpful... really  appreciate it14:49
radoseviclarsks: ok... will try that... so far nothing useful in logs14:50
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radoseviclarsks: somehow it times out... this is part of message with --debug flag "RESP BODY: <html><body><h1>504 Gateway Time-out</h1>"14:53
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radoseviclarsks: i must say that i don't have package loss to my network... so these time-out errors are mistery for me14:54
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larsksradosevic: what url is it contacing that results in a timeout?14:57
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radoseviclarsks: http://removed_ip_by_purpose:8774/v2/7dd9f8972e324437b454f4791a6f69e2/images/detail14:58
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Guest12059Hi all, got an issue with upgrading from havana to icehouse. When running the migrate_to_ml.py script it returns the following error : http://paste.openstack.org/show/84581/15:01
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larsksradosevic: Hmm.  That's just nova, and I'm not sure why it would generate a 504 error.  Does keystone seem to work?  E.g., can you run "keystone token-get" without error?15:02
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radoseviclarsks: is that what you meant?15:03
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georgem2radosevic:you said you installed Icehouse with Fuel using the HA model, so it's very possible it sometimes work and sometimes doesn't because of how haproxy distributes your API calls among multiple controllers15:14
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georgem2radosevic:and one or more of your nova-api is not working properly15:15
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shadyabhiHi everyone, a newbie in openstack here. I did the icehouse setup using official puppetforge openstack modules. While trying to use "nova get-vnc-console", the token that's generated gets refused by consoleauth daemon. Can anyone suggest anything about how should I proceed debugging the issue? The logs are http://pb.abhijeetr.com/QUYe15:45
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shadyabhiPlease let me know if anyone sees my message above.16:05
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bzzeiglerwe see it, this channel is just slow some times.16:09
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_cjones_Quick question for any Nova networking folks on here. Is there such thing as "routing" in Nova networking (sans Neutron)?16:17
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KodiakFHello!  Anyone know if RDO Icehouse is still having issues with neutron db initialization?16:20
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mjblackKodiakF: what issues are you having with neutron db?16:23
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KodiakFCoworker alleges issue with db init part of neutron installation - I'm about to give it a try myself16:24
KodiakFI think as related to this16:24
KodiakFhttps://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2014-March/msg00005.html16:24
KodiakFbrb16:24
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mjblackKodiakF: what do you have set for core_plugin in neutron.conf?16:25
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mjblackwe just ran into an issue ourselves where core_plugin needed to be fully qualified, instead of the example provided16:27
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KodiakFmjblack:  to be clear I'm not having problems (yet), more just checking things out pre-deploy based on griping of a coworker :)16:34
mjblackKodiakF: ah ok16:35
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KodiakFAs a newb, is neutron going to feel constrained on a 68GB drive?  It's going onto a small blade dedicated to neutron activities only and I didn't know if I needed to bump up the drive size on the raid1 mirror to 14616:36
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KodiakFBase RHEL6 minimal OS + neutron only on the blade16:36
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karimbdo i need to manually create br-tun on compute nodes?16:39
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Sam-I-AmKodiakF: the neutron network node (non-db) runs fine on maybe 5-10 gigs of hdd. depends on your logging too.16:54
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KodiakFSam-I-Am:  Thanks I was hoping that was the case.  I'll have to take a look at getting all of the logs off to syslog so I won't need much space16:56
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klanderhey guys. I come from a web-dev background and have become increasingly interested in open source cloud computing architecture. Could you guys recommend some good books and resrouces for someone getting started with openstack and docker?17:16
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KodiakFklander:  Openstack ops guide - free or dead-tree from O'Reilley17:24
KodiakFFor docker I'd also like to know17:24
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klanderKodiakF: dead-tree?17:25
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KodiakFpaper17:26
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klanderah, lol :D17:26
KodiakFIE you can get it for $0.00 in PDF form on docs.openstack17:26
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KodiakFor you can pay some bucks (can't remember how much) for the paper version to support the effort and/or have the convenience of paper17:26
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bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, you wouldn't happen to know who was at HostingCon for Openstack this year, would you?17:35
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bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, you around?17:56
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Sam-I-Ambzzeigler: nope18:13
bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, damn :(18:14
bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, so I've rebuilt my controller all the way up to nova network-create18:14
bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, and fail.18:14
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Sam-I-Amwhat?18:19
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bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, running "nova network-create demo-net --bridge br100 --multi-host T --fixed-range-v4 NETWORKCIDR" (with my NETWORkCIDR) gives me this error:18:20
bzzeigler"ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-f0eef35e-61f3-4c6b-9e4c-54be1d360a1c)"18:20
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Sam-I-Amdo other nova network commands work?18:27
Sam-I-Amlike... nova net-list or something18:27
bzzeiglernova net-list does work, nothing in the list though18:27
Sam-I-Amanything in the logs?18:28
bzzeiglerwhich log should I look at?18:28
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Sam-I-Amthe nova logs on the controller node18:30
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bzzeigler"2014-06-20 13:14:18.258 26393 TRACE nova.api.openstack MessagingTimeout: Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID 056f5169d268467481dea231c6a67e1f" looks to be the only issue I've come across18:32
Sam-I-Amis that around the time the command failed?18:32
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bzzeiglerI JUST ran it again, going to look at the log once the command fails again18:34
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bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, here we go, this shows up in api.log when the fail occurs: http://pastebin.com/pxGahw0A18:35
bzzeiglerits the only log file that is updated when the command fails18:36
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Sam-I-Amsounds like a problem with your message queue18:38
Sam-I-Amrabbitmq or qpid18:38
Sam-I-Amcould be a config error (for example, one node is looking for X, but the controller doesn't know about it, so the message times out) or there's a problem with your message queue (is it running? firewall? credentials?)18:39
bzzeiglerqpid... running with auth=no right now18:39
bzzeiglerI'll run through everything for a compute node and see if there is something I missed18:40
Sam-I-Ami gotta run for a bit18:41
bzzeiglerkk, real quick... you wouldn't happen to know who was at Hostingcon for Openstack, do you?18:41
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Sam-I-Amnope18:43
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bzzeigleralright, damn... thanks for the help otherwise18:44
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nagyzhey19:19
nagyzso I've booted the cirros image on icehouse and it doesn't get an IP. I logged in, configured the interface manually, and started a ping, on the tap interface (the vnic to the VM) I do see the packet19:19
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nagyzbut I don't see it on the qvb interface on the other side of the bridge19:20
nagyzwell, that could very well be because of the security group dropping it19:21
nagyzright, totally my fault. the security rules in iptables caught the packet :-)19:22
sc68calwhat is the security group rules? You should still be able to get a dhcp lease19:24
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nagyzthe default.19:25
nagyzso my problem currently seems to be with my network controller, namely not being able to reach the DHCP server in the namespace19:25
nagyzwhich is a bit tricky, since I'm running that on a VMware VM actually19:25
sc68calyeah the dhcp server and namespace is always tricky19:27
sc68calsometimes neutron also creates a host file that makes dnsmasq barf19:28
sc68calor CLI args that makes it barf....19:28
sc68caldo you have an IPv6 subnet by chance?19:28
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miarmakhi guys!19:55
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miarmakDoes anyone have the latest detailed sequence diagram of VM creating?19:55
routerproi am trying to get neutron running with the arista driver but neutron will not even start19:56
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_cjones_sc68cal: Do you happen to know if there is a concept of routing in Nova networking? (Non Neutron)?19:59
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sc68calTo my knowledge, no19:59
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sc68calthere is no concept of routing19:59
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sc68calNeutron is currently working on specs for Neutron to start using BGP20:01
sc68calthere might be a spec floating around for doing IGP as well...20:01
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xmltokshould notifications.info be durable with nova? my conductor daemon is freakout out20:19
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nagyzsc68cal, what would be cool is to transparently proxy the metadata20:22
nagyzand maybe to share a dhcp instead of a per-tenant dhcp20:22
nagyzso it doesn't take up one IP per network20:22
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sc68calnagyz: most of the time the dhcp namespaces are in tenant networks20:24
sc68calwhich are usually overlapping rfc1918 spaces20:24
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nagyzin my case I'd like them to directly be on our corporate network20:24
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nagyzso I've got from network operations a /20 namespace20:25
nagyzand doing vlan provider network20:25
sc68calahhh.... same thing we do :)20:25
nagyzbut in this case I don't really need the l3 agent20:25
nagyzand without it horizon freaks out (dunno if that's been fixed in .1 or not)20:25
sc68calyeah we don't run l3 agent either20:26
sc68caluntil DVR lands20:26
nagyzdoes neutron behave in your env?20:26
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sc68calWe've had some bugs around doing IPv6, but we've been contributing fixes as we go20:26
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sc68calbut v4 side provider networking I don't think we've had issues20:27
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nagyzcompletely sidequestion: are there any plans to get rid of the shared /var/lib/nova/instances directory? :/20:28
nagyzin our case the only thing there will be the libvirt.xml20:28
nagyzas both ephemeral storage and volumes are in ceph20:28
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davidbowlbyI'm trying to set the password for a windows 2008 r2 installation running cloudbase's cloud-init.  I know there are a ton of examples showing how to do it from the nova command line, but I'd like to do it with the post creation customization script in horizon.  ANyone successfully done this?  I keep getting unsupported user_data format20:30
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davidbowlbyI looked at the cloud-init source code it looks like it is looking for some kind of sh syntax20:33
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sc68calnagyz: good question - probably worth filing a nova-spec for it20:35
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nagyzsc68cal, do you know of any reason why the libvirt.xml generation couldn't be dynamic?20:36
sc68calnot sure what you mean20:36
* sc68cal has not dug into nova since like Essex era20:37
nagyzcurrently libvirt needs the libvirt.xml to boot the VM; however, it's generated _once_. now, instead of doing that, it could be generated on a per-use basis but that might break libvirt that's true20:37
nagyzI'm a bit afraid to use cephfs to store even these files20:37
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mnasernagyz: you don't necessarily need /var/lib/nova/instances to be shared..?20:38
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nagyzI know the freeze and then copy and move the VM works, right?20:40
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nagyzso what happens if it's not shared and the hypervisor hosting the libvirt.xml dies?20:40
nagyzdoes nova regenerate it on the new hypervisor?20:40
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larsksdavidbowlby: have you looked at the cloud-init documentation?  It is full of examples.  http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html21:03
larsks...assuming that cloudbases's cloud-init is the same thing, of course.21:03
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sgordonlarsks, it is - they just made it work on windows and then added some plugins specific to that environment21:09
sgordonthe plugins are documented in their readme21:09
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wrale_i'd like to use fuel and separate my storage from my internal networks over a 1GbE network that is split into two tagged vlans.. can i use GRE tunnels over the internal network (which itself runs tagged vlans)?21:14
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wrale_*10GbE21:14
wrale_nvm.. my question is too complicated to ask .. :(21:15
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wrale_(ask, correctly)21:15
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bzzeiglerI'm going back through all of my nodes and reinstalling everything from the ground up because I feel like I'm goofing up something somewhere and want to make sure... do the instructions on this page apply to JUST controller, or compute nodes as well? http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-packages.html21:29
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Gamekiller77how the heck do you upgrade neutron DB with icehouse form havana21:34
Gamekiller77dang command not working21:34
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dtrainorwhich command, Gamekiller77?21:41
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Gamekiller77neutron-db-manage21:43
Gamekiller77and the RDO doc is wrong21:43
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nagyzso in a normal VLAN scenario where I control the router too22:01
nagyzshould I set a default route on the router to route all metadata IP requests to the network controller running the metadata agent?22:01
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nagyzsc68cal, how do you guys do the metadata routing?22:05
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bzzeiglerShould "openstack-config --set /etc/nova/nova.conf DEFAULT \22:15
bzzeigler  network_size 254" not have 254 changed to match the size of my network? ie "network_size 32" for a /27 network?22:15
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mongo2I am mid service by service upgrade to icehouse from havana, is there any fix for the broken neutron-db-manage upgrade issues?22:17
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dtrainorSo what's the anatomy of a "router"?  What component supports it underneath?22:25
dtrainorSome iptables hackery using masq or nat or snat or dnat relying on ip_forward ?22:25
dtrainorI know I can SNAT a floating IP from "external" to an "internal" - so the clue there is, it's likely iptables22:26
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bzzeiglerShould "openstack-config --set /etc/nova/nova.conf DEFAULT network_size 254" not have 254 changed to match the size of my network? ie "network_size 32" for a /27 network?22:30
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dtrainorsooo according to the docs:  (IntOpt) Number of addresses in each private subnet22:31
dtrainorhrm, i see what you mean now22:32
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dtrainori tihnk it's simply and quite literally "number of addresses", it's not cidr22:32
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bzzeiglerso I'd leave it on 254, despite the CIDR the entire cluster has for public IPs being a /27?22:33
dtrainorcalculate how many IPs are in your /2722:33
dtrainorthat's 224 right22:33
bzzeigleryeah, 32 (29 usable)22:33
dtrainorin a 27?22:33
bzzeiglerunless this food coma has gone to my head too22:34
dtrainorcount from the left :)22:34
dtrainor27 = 24 + 3, 11100000, so 128 + 64 + 3222:34
dtrainor11111111.11111111.11111111.1110000022:35
nagyzif I have an external, physical router serving my VLAN subnet for the VMs, is it a bad idea to add the static route for the metadata service there?22:35
nagyzas I see it there are 3 options: 1, add it to the physical router; 2, inject the route via DHCP (might not work everywhere); 3, manually add the iptables DNAT route...22:36
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bzzeiglerdtrainor, so you think it should be 224? meaning the 254 value that is listed in the instructions refers to a /31?22:38
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dtrainorright, a default22:38
dtrainoras if to mean a 1:1 relationship I guess, I don't know22:39
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bzzeiglerI'm starting to wonder if this line actually refers to the number of IPs assigned to an instance via DHCP by default22:39
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dtrainorI don't know.  It might be used to define a range?22:40
bzzeiglerwish someone that really knew nova was on22:40
dtrainorBut then I guess it gets fuzzy when you need to start defining a gateway, a broadcast, service addresses like ntp dns etc etc22:40
Gamekiller77sigh the DB upgrade command not working at all for me sigh22:41
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dtrainorGamekiller77, let's get some more information - commands you ran, errors, things like that?22:41
dtrainoranything other than "it doesn't work" helps  :)22:42
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Gamekiller77neutron-db-manage upgrade stamp22:42
Gamekiller77error i get is this22:42
Gamekiller77ImportError: Class  cannot be found (['Traceback (most recent call last):\n', '  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neutron/openstack/common/importutils.py", line 28, in import_class\n    __import__(mod_str)\n', 'ValueError: Empty module name\n'])22:42
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Gamekiller77this RDO icehouse with RHEL 6.522:44
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dtrainoris there more to that trace?  fpaste.org22:44
Gamekiller77yes let me paste it22:45
Gamekiller77http://paste.openstack.org/show/84602/22:47
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dtrainortrying to upgrade from what to what?22:47
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Gamekiller77havana to icehouse22:50
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Gamekiller77i added all the new config lines22:50
Gamekiller77lines22:50
dtrainorlooks liek you're missing one22:51
dtrainorwhich upgrade doc were you using22:51
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Gamekiller77none of the ones i find are any good22:53
Gamekiller77i reviewing the configs now22:53
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nagyzfrom the docs22:56
nagyzHosts access the service at 169.254.169.254:80, and this is translated to metadata_host:metadata_port by an iptables rule established by the nova-network service. In multi-host mode, you can set metadata_host to 127.0.0.1.22:56
nagyzis this something available while using neutron?22:57
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nagyzwith a virtual router I understand the route takes place on the router; what with provider networks, how is it done?22:58
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bzzeiglerSam-I-Am, I've gone through your guide again and I'm still running into the same issue23:04
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dtrainorGamekiller77, the Icehouse guide has a lot of content on upgrading23:12
dtrainor"Empty module name" kinda tells me that there's a new config directive which is blank by default23:12
Gamekiller77yah running thought it now23:12
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Gamekiller77i looked at the debug output and saw nothing empty now23:13
Gamekiller77now i get this error23:13
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Gamekiller77ImportError: Class ml2 cannot be found (['Traceback (most recent call last):\n', '  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neutron/openstack/common/importutils.py", line 28, in import_class\n    __import__(mod_str)\n', 'ValueError: Empty module name\n'])23:14
Gamekiller77but i know i have ml2 active23:15
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dtrainornot sure, sorry23:20
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Gamekiller77ok got it upgraded23:28
dtrainorcool, what was it23:28
Gamekiller77so odd the neutron team needs to get with it23:28
Gamekiller77i had to revert to OVS23:28
Gamekiller77stamp it havana23:28
Gamekiller77then upgrade icehouse23:28
Gamekiller77then run a python script to covert it to ml223:28
dtrainoreh23:28
dtrainorwant to file a bug against it?23:28
Gamekiller77# service neutron-server stop23:28
Gamekiller77# neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf \23:28
Gamekiller77  --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini stamp havana23:28
Gamekiller77# neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf \23:28
Gamekiller77  --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade icehouse23:28
Gamekiller77# python -m neutron.db.migration.migrate_to_ml2 openvswitch \23:28
Gamekiller77  mysql://neutron:NEUTRON_DBPASS@controller/neutron23:29
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dtrainorpastebin, sir23:29
dtrainorpastebin.23:29
Gamekiller77sorry23:29
Gamekiller77http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/upgrades_havana-icehouse-rhel.html23:29
Gamekiller77there23:29
dtrainorfile a bug against it, help someone out some day23:29
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Gamekiller77half way down23:29
dtrainorwell looks like it *is* documented...23:29
Gamekiller77no it is23:29
Gamekiller77the RDO doc is bad23:29
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Gamekiller77so will file a bug with my friends at RH23:29
jidarmake sure you use the words, 'this is bad and you should feel bad'23:30
dtrainoryou can file one on their bugzilla publicly too23:30
dtrainorhaha23:30
Gamekiller77if any thing neutron project needs to better align to the rest of the services23:30
jidarone thing I found odd was how it uses a seperate db-init proceedure23:30
dtrainori mean, it beats nova networking..23:30
dtrainorlikewise, jidar23:30
Gamekiller77yes i agree23:30
* jidar shrugs23:30
Gamekiller77there error reporting sucks too for neutron23:31
jidarI'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the bridge concept23:31
Gamekiller77also i got a nasty bug23:31
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dtrainorwhat's it going to say?  "You didn't read the doc and didn't add xyz so i'm going to explode"?23:31
Gamekiller77i have 9 floating IP23:31
Gamekiller77only 4 L3 route23:31
Gamekiller77when assigned23:31
Gamekiller77support can not find the problem ether so i like great23:32
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dtrainorredhat support?23:32
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Gamekiller77yah23:33
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dtrainorI don't know man.  If it's misconfigured, it's misconfigured.23:34
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dtrainorDon't know how an app is supposed to tell if it, itself, is misconfigured23:34
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bzzeiglerdtrainor, thanks for tryin to help me figure out that network_size detail. the issue I was hoping to fix ended up not getting fixed with the whole start all over from the bottom up thing I did...23:35
dtrainorno problem.  any idea what you might have missed along the way?23:36
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bzzeiglerI've redone my controller 3 times and my compute nodes twice23:36
Gamekiller77i feel you bzzeigler23:36
Gamekiller77i have a multi node setup i just thank my buddy that he setup puppet to manage all the configs23:37
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bzzeiglerI've been throrough regarding copying everything to sublimetext to perform all the tweaks needed for my setup, then reading over, then applying to the node...23:37
dtrainorGamekiller77, are you using the foreman installer?23:37
Gamekiller77we just set ours up23:37
bzzeiglerGamekiller77, I'm going to go home and read up on foreman to see if I can't just make use of that23:37
Gamekiller77satellite 6 is sick23:38
dtrainorLook at a method of populating foreman using seeds.rb23:38
Gamekiller77it forman puppet and state puff23:38
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Gamekiller77state puff is a line by line config changer23:38
dtrainorstaypuft :)23:38
dtrainorkinda..23:38
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Gamekiller77yah yah spelling shmelling23:39
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Gamekiller77i just got our forman sever up and we will be testing deployment of the instance very soon23:40
dtrainorcool, glad to hear it23:40
dtrainoragain, look at seeds.rb23:40
bzzeiglerdtrainor, would you suggest a dedicated foreman server that provisions both controller AND compute nodes? (We are using Nova networking)23:40
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dtrainorI would, yeah23:40
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dtrainorSo I don't know if there's any difference between the Foreman that's used for OpenStack deployment and a standard Foreman system, with the exception of them having different concent23:41
dtrainorcontent, too23:41
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bzzeiglercool. seeing as somethings is broke, I'm going to have to redo everything anyway, so meh23:41
dtrainorI'm thinking they're pretty close to one and the same because it's so closely integrated with sat6 and you wouldn't want to break that compatibility with sat623:41
Gamekiller77ok i am out23:41
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dtrainorcya23:41
Gamekiller77neutron is working so hit heat and ceilomenter next week23:42
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dtrainorthen again, if it's a component of sat6, then there's a good chance it was also modified to better be massaged by the reset of sat623:42
bzzeiglerI too am heading out, but my ZNC server will keep me logged in. peace!23:42
dtrainorhave a good one23:43
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