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| dtrainor | so with --net-create, I can send it --variable VARIABLE | 00:11 |
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| dtrainor | Where do I get a list of what's acceptable for VARIABLE ? | 00:12 |
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| mongo2 | man neutron's migrations from havana to icehouse are so broken it isn't funny. | 00:27 |
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| bobbytech9 | Hey all, anyone have a moment to point me in the right direction regarding OpenStack and DNS? | 16:51 |
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| bobbytech9 | Basically I'm not sure how I can teach all my hosts about their respective hostnames | 16:51 |
| bobbytech9 | What's typical here? | 16:51 |
| mnaser | hosts = instances or hypervisors? | 16:51 |
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| bobbytech9 | mnaser: Sorry, ya server instances | 16:53 |
| mnaser | are you using nova network or neutron | 16:53 |
| bobbytech9 | hmm, I'm using the nova client | 16:54 |
| bobbytech9 | on icehouse | 16:54 |
| mnaser | but do you know if the openstack deployment using neutron or nova-network? | 16:54 |
| bobbytech9 | mnaser: No, is there an easy way to determine from the dashboard? | 16:55 |
| bobbytech9 | Or otherwise? | 16:55 |
| mnaser | hmm | 16:55 |
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| bobbytech9 | This is brand spanking new | 16:55 |
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| bobbytech9 | Would I need to do this with user data? | 16:55 |
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| bobbytech9 | cloud-init? | 16:55 |
| bobbytech9 | nova dns? | 16:56 |
| bobbytech9 | Totally confused | 16:56 |
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| bobbytech9 | I just need to teach my Hadoop cluster about eachother's hostnames | 16:56 |
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| bobbytech9 | For some reason Cloudera needs hostnames | 16:56 |
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| mnaser | bobbytech9: i'm trying to figure out a way to know if you're using neutron or not | 16:59 |
| mnaser | that's easy for you to figure out :) | 16:59 |
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| bobbytech9 | mnaser: Does it really change things? | 16:59 |
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| mnaser | bobbytech9: yes.. i can help you a lot with one, and i can try with the other :) | 16:59 |
| mnaser | now | 17:00 |
| mnaser | if you're in the dashboard, project tab | 17:00 |
| mnaser | do you see something under "manage networks" ? | 17:00 |
| bobbytech9 | mnaser: bbiab | 17:00 |
| bobbytech9 | Just need to walk the dog quickly :) | 17:00 |
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| nagyz | hey | 17:04 |
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| nagyz | so I have a new icehouse installation with vlans, and everything seems to be working _after_ an instance boots up but that takes a very long time | 17:04 |
| nagyz | I was suspecting a metadata timeout, but 1, it gets it's ip 2, after logging in (cirros image) I can curl 169.254.169.254 for the metadata | 17:04 |
| nagyz | the ubuntu trusty image never actually reaches the login prompt :/ | 17:05 |
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| nagyz | any ideas? | 17:05 |
| mnaser | nagyz: does it take a long time in SPAWNING state? | 17:06 |
| mnaser | or it goes active but remains unacecssible fro a while | 17:07 |
| nagyz | it goes to active and I can access it via vnc | 17:07 |
| nagyz | the qemu process is actually running the image, so it must be something during cloud-init | 17:07 |
| nagyz | but 1, it gets the IP correctly 2, routing and dns too 3, metadata is accessible... | 17:07 |
| nagyz | I'm out of ideas what could cause the pause | 17:07 |
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| mnaser | nagyz: so it goes to active state really fast | 17:09 |
| mnaser | but then boot up takes a while inside the vm | 17:09 |
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| mnaser | did you look at the cloud-init log file by any chance? | 17:09 |
| nagyz | well, I'd say it goes to active as it should - dunno about the "really fast" part :-) | 17:09 |
| mnaser | but i mean | 17:09 |
| nagyz | I'd love to but in the cirros image I can't find it | 17:09 |
| mnaser | the part that is taking a long time | 17:09 |
| mnaser | is that after it goes to active, or before | 17:09 |
| nagyz | after. | 17:10 |
| nagyz | so something IN the image takes a while. | 17:10 |
| mnaser | alright | 17:10 |
| nagyz | nothing wrong with openstack's ability to start instances, per se | 17:10 |
| mnaser | i think cloud-init might send some output | 17:10 |
| mnaser | to the console log, have you tired to look there | 17:10 |
| mnaser | nova console-log <vm> | 17:10 |
| nagyz | do you by any chance know where the log is located in the cirros image? | 17:10 |
| nagyz | ah, ok, let's see console log | 17:10 |
| mnaser | i don't really use cirros, mostly ubuntu images | 17:10 |
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| nagyz | hm, console-log actually shows the login prompt, but not on vnc. | 17:11 |
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| nagyz | let me check with an ubuntu image quickly | 17:11 |
| nagyz | ok, only VNC was playing games with me it seems | 17:12 |
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| nagyz | according to console-log, the ubuntu images comes up without issues too | 17:12 |
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| nagyz | I just don't get the login prompt on vnc.. weird. | 17:12 |
| nagyz | do you know how could I modify the _default_ security group? | 17:12 |
| nagyz | globally, I mean | 17:12 |
| mnaser | i dont think you can change the default security group | 17:14 |
| mnaser | usually i have a script that sets up allow-all rules | 17:14 |
| mnaser | by default | 17:14 |
| nagyz | I just want ping and SSH allowed | 17:14 |
| nagyz | if the VM gets deployed to a specific network | 17:14 |
| nagyz | is there like a generic orchestrator in icehouse where I could script this? IIRC I cannot use heat for this since the action is not originated in heat | 17:15 |
| mnaser | just make a security group and launch instances inside it? | 17:15 |
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| nagyz | it's our in-house private cloud - any user can log in and launch instances | 17:15 |
| nagyz | (we already have one based on havana and some older hardware, this is the second iteration) | 17:16 |
| nagyz | most of the time I got calls that "I launched an instance yet I cannot SSH11!!1!!1" | 17:16 |
| nagyz | that=like | 17:16 |
| nagyz | bah. :) | 17:16 |
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| mnaser | nagyz: when i setup new tenants, i usually just add some default rules for customers | 17:16 |
| mnaser | keeps me sane :-) | 17:17 |
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| nagyz | yeah I might add that to our tenant generation script. | 17:17 |
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| mnaser | i usually add allowing all traffic | 17:18 |
| mnaser | and whoever messes with it and breaks it probably knows what they are doing :-) | 17:18 |
| nagyz | it's such a bummer that I have to manually patch everything to add proper ceph support for CoW volumes/images | 17:19 |
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| nagyz | makes upgrades not that nice | 17:19 |
| mnaser | what type of patches? | 17:19 |
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| mnaser | why don't you extend the existing driver/manager, that's what we do | 17:19 |
| mnaser | we run vanilla openstack with a huge codebase on top | 17:19 |
| nagyz | well, the ceph guys have been trying to get it into icehouse but some patches didn't make it | 17:20 |
| nagyz | and currently I'm running openstack from packages | 17:20 |
| nagyz | so you guys run it via git stable branch? | 17:20 |
| nagyz | I find packages very handy ;-) | 17:20 |
| mnaser | used to be git stable | 17:21 |
| mnaser | now ubuntu packages | 17:21 |
| mnaser | + our own extensions on top | 17:21 |
| nagyz | how do you patch _sanely_ your ubuntu packages? | 17:21 |
| mnaser | so for example | 17:21 |
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| nagyz | or I'm not sure I understand 'extension' in this context | 17:21 |
| mnaser | lets say we need to change some code in the network manager | 17:21 |
| lupu1 | nagyz: have you patched havana or icehouse ? | 17:21 |
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| nagyz | (and for log references, here's the ceph mail about the patches: https://www.mail-archive.com/ceph-users@lists.ceph.com/msg10202.html) | 17:21 |
| nagyz | lupu1, both | 17:21 |
| mnaser | we have our own package | 17:21 |
| mnaser | for example we have some modifications in the libvirt driver | 17:22 |
| mnaser | so we'll basically create a python package with driver that inherits the libvirt driver | 17:22 |
| nagyz | mnaser, ah, I see. | 17:22 |
| mnaser | modify the code in there for the specific functions | 17:22 |
| mnaser | compute_driver=my.own.driver | 17:22 |
| nagyz | mnaser, and use your own driver in the config. | 17:22 |
| nagyz | got it. | 17:22 |
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| mnaser | also, you can do that for network_manager, compute_manager etc | 17:22 |
| mnaser | conductor_manager | 17:22 |
| nagyz | while in theory I could do this, the ceph patches are already written for me ;-) | 17:22 |
| mnaser | we have over 5k loc of stuff on top :P | 17:22 |
| mnaser | but that has been going down more and more | 17:22 |
| mnaser | i think last we're down to 1500-200 | 17:23 |
| mnaser | s/200/2000/ | 17:23 |
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| nagyz | yeah our official product also has a ton of stuff on top | 17:23 |
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| mnaser | we used to run a fork and rebase from time to time | 17:24 |
| mnaser | i twas hell | 17:24 |
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| bobbytek | mnaser: Back | 17:25 |
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| bobbytek | What should I be looking for? | 17:26 |
| bobbytek | Sorry switched machines :) | 17:26 |
| lupu1 | nagyz: what branch have you used for patching icehouse (rbd-ephemeral-clone or rbd-ephemeral-clone-stable-icehouse) and was there any work involved besides applying the diffs ? | 17:27 |
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| nagyz | lupu1, https://github.com/angdraug/nova/tree/rbd-ephemeral-clone-stable-icehouse | 17:28 |
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| nagyz | lupu1, the havana is a different story, those patches were from Josh | 17:29 |
| nagyz | lupu1, for icehouse I'm gonna test these patches - a colleage of mines did a patchset that upgrades the ubuntu 2014.1 packages to 1.1 + ceph patches from that branch | 17:29 |
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| nagyz | lupu1, but it was simply generated from git, so shouldn't be any gotchas there. | 17:30 |
| nagyz | lupu1, have you hit any problems? | 17:30 |
| bobbytek | mnaser: You still around? | 17:30 |
| bobbytek | Quick question, what's the best way to parse the output of the nova command line client? | 17:31 |
| bobbytek | cut / awk? | 17:31 |
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| mnaser | i usually use awk | 17:31 |
| mnaser | devstack uses awk too a lot i think | 17:31 |
| jidar | anybody have bash/zsh completions for all of the openstack components? | 17:33 |
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| jidar | ah there it is, on github | 17:35 |
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| lupu1 | nagyz: I haven't tried to patch nova for ceph yet, the changes are pretty drastic and I was/am afraid that it will conflict with nova commits what will follow | 17:38 |
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| nagyz | lupu1, do you know what's missing _specifically_ from icehouse? | 17:39 |
| nagyz | or which parts did it make to icehouse that wasn't in havana? | 17:39 |
| bobbytek | mnaser: So you use the client similar to this? https://github.com/macgreagoir/gobstack/blob/9bbb2ba3f92f19ea2303281c58559542d231d77e/services/instance_boot.sh | 17:40 |
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| mnaser | yes bobbytek | 17:41 |
| nagyz | anybody has any experience with the enovance swift driver for swift? | 17:42 |
| nagyz | looking at the code, it's meh. | 17:42 |
| mnaser | nagyz: you can say redhat swift driver now | 17:43 |
| mnaser | :P | 17:43 |
| nagyz | well, it was written by enovance for redhat ceph :p | 17:44 |
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| nagyz | man, that's such a bummer that it got acquired by them | 17:44 |
| bobbytek | mnaser: Okay, so how can I tell if I'm using nova network or neutron? | 17:44 |
| lupu1 | nagyz: i haven't followed havana very close, Sebastien published some info here: http://techs.enovance.com/7056/back-from-the-juno-summit-ceph-integration-into-openstack | 17:44 |
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| mnaser | bobbytek: i think you can login to dashboard, if you see "manage networks" under project, then you're on neutron | 17:45 |
| bobbytek | hmm I can see https://sweng.os.oicr.on.ca/horizon/project/networks/ | 17:46 |
| bobbytek | Is that what you mean? | 17:46 |
| nagyz | not sure we can open an internal horizon :P | 17:47 |
| lupu1 | bobbytek: nova.conf network_api_class=? | 17:48 |
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| bobbytek | lupu1: Sorry, not sure what you are referring to | 17:49 |
| bobbytek | I'm a user, not an IT developer | 17:50 |
| lupu1 | check /etc/nova/nova.conf for that setting: network_api_class | 17:50 |
| mnaser | i dont think he has access to it, lupu1 | 17:50 |
| lupu1 | ok | 17:50 |
| mnaser | but if you made it to the networks page, then he probably has neutron | 17:51 |
| mnaser | dont think with nova-network the networks page is available | 17:51 |
| mnaser | now im not too sure if neutron does dns and generate reocords | 17:51 |
| bobbytek | I can see networks, networks topology, routers | 17:51 |
| mnaser | yeah, you're running neutron | 17:52 |
| mnaser | so im more of a nova-network user | 17:52 |
| mnaser | so i dont know how neutron works on generating dns records | 17:52 |
| bobbytek | ah, ok | 17:52 |
| bobbytek | I tried a few dns commands | 17:52 |
| bobbytek | For example | 17:52 |
| bobbytek | nova dns-domains ◉ ◼◼◼◼◼◼◼◼◻◻ | 17:52 |
| bobbytek | ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-c96dd623-b440-4373-9cb7-8a844b3b4d42) | 17:52 |
| mnaser | bobbytek: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/internal-dns-resolution | 17:52 |
| mnaser | it looks like they are working on it | 17:52 |
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| mnaser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90150/12/specs/juno/internal-dns-resolution.rst | 17:53 |
| nagyz | lupu1, well, I'll fire it up in the next few hours. we'll see. | 17:53 |
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| mnaser | so looks like you'll have to setup your own dns server, bobbytek | 17:53 |
| nagyz | lupu1, however, the enovance ubuntu trusty packages doesn't seem to be available. | 17:53 |
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| bobbytek | mnaser: You mean via another instance? | 17:54 |
| bobbytek | I'm not well versed in dns | 17:54 |
| bobbytek | Any pointers would be greatly appreciated | 17:54 |
| bobbytek | But thanks for the links! | 17:54 |
| mnaser | bobbytek: yes.. you'll have someone who will need to setup dns manually, openstack will not do it for you | 17:54 |
| nagyz | holy fuck, mnaser , I just got your reference | 17:55 |
| nagyz | I slept thru the news that enovance was also bought by redhat | 17:55 |
| bobbytek | But would this be running in on a virtualized host, or as part of the OS infrastructure? | 17:55 |
| mnaser | lmao! | 17:55 |
| mnaser | hahahah | 17:55 |
| mnaser | up to you and your network architecture | 17:56 |
| mnaser | bobbytek ^ | 17:56 |
| bobbytek | ok | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | What's the point of these commands: | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-create | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-create-private-domain | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-create-public-domain | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-delete | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-delete-domain | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-domains | 17:57 |
| bobbytek | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/novaclient_commands.html#novaclient_subcommand_dns-list | 17:57 |
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| mnaser | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/1163/what-do-the-nova-dns-commands-do/ | 17:57 |
| nagyz | is there an easy way to allow arbitrary people to create their own projects? I'm not worried about the quotas | 17:58 |
| nagyz | or is it enough if I edit the keystone policy? | 17:58 |
| mnaser | i think you can edit the keystone policy | 17:58 |
| mnaser | afaik there isnt exactly another way than that | 17:58 |
| bobbytek | Awesome thanks mnaser | 17:58 |
| nagyz | mnaser, do you guys run designate? | 17:59 |
| mnaser | yes sir | 17:59 |
| nagyz | then you're my guy for that ;-) | 17:59 |
| nagyz | I've just installed it from the stable icehouse branch and I've run into a weird error. let me dig into my instance to find it again (it has been a few weeks) | 18:00 |
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| therealGent | does devstack have its own irc channel? | 18:00 |
| mnaser | if anything has a channel, you'll find it here therealGent | 18:00 |
| mnaser | https://wiki.openstack.org/IRC | 18:00 |
| therealGent | im following thing single machine guide at http://devstack.org/guides/single-machine.html and it says to assign things like floating IP range inside that file. But the sample conf file provided does not have that field. | 18:00 |
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| lupu1 | nagyz: after being bought by redhat they have made Calamari user interface open-source | 18:01 |
| nagyz | yep, I've seen that too | 18:01 |
| nagyz | but it has a 250 OSD limit, afaik... | 18:01 |
| nagyz | :) | 18:01 |
| mnaser | open source with a limit? | 18:02 |
| mnaser | eh? | 18:02 |
| nagyz | not in that sense - they state the UI looks funky after that | 18:03 |
| nagyz | not that I have tested it myself yet. | 18:03 |
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| nagyz | ok, so the patch packages should be at http://cloud.pkgs.enovance.com/trusty-icehouse, but that's incessabile | 18:03 |
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| therealGent | is my devstack supposed to be runnign after stack.sh is executed? | 18:06 |
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| ekarlso | mnaser: company are you from ? | 18:09 |
| mnaser | ekarlso: vexxhost | 18:09 |
| ekarlso | k | 18:10 |
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| klep | Animal Style In/out burger | 18:15 |
| klep | n0m | 18:16 |
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| nagyz | is there any way to reset the IP list for neutron? it's annoying that it keeps increasing until it wraps around. | 18:25 |
| nagyz | IIRC this wasn't the case in havana | 18:25 |
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| nagyz | mnaser, still here? | 18:47 |
| mnaser | yep | 18:47 |
| nagyz | I've just restarted my designate env (fresh install) | 18:47 |
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| nagyz | so designate domain-list gives me an error with a little table saying Code=None and Type=None | 18:47 |
| nagyz | is that normal until I add a domain? | 18:47 |
| mnaser | no | 18:48 |
| mnaser | i get an empty list | 18:48 |
| nagyz | I have debug=true yet nothing in the logs :/ | 18:48 |
| mnaser | all your services are up i assume, nothing in designate-*.log ? | 18:48 |
| mnaser | verbose=true and debug=true under [DEFAULT] ? | 18:48 |
| nagyz | designate-api and designate-central is running, along with pdns | 18:48 |
| nagyz | just debug=true; doesn't it imply verbose? | 18:48 |
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| mnaser | nagyz: is it printing other debug output otherwise | 18:49 |
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| mnaser | also db's sync'd too? | 18:50 |
| nagyz | the client debug URL looks like "GET //domains HTTP/1.1" 404 233 | 18:50 |
| nagyz | shouldn't that be /v1/domains? | 18:50 |
| nagyz | no wonder /domains is 404 in this case.. | 18:50 |
| mnaser | keystone endpoint? | 18:51 |
| nagyz | the docs explicitly state not to include the version there | 18:51 |
| nagyz | so I set it up to be http://dnshost:9001 | 18:51 |
| nagyz | should that be http://dnshost:9001/v1? | 18:52 |
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| mnaser | i have /v1 in our install nagyz | 18:52 |
| nagyz | ok let me change that | 18:53 |
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| therealGent | devstack is broken on centos 6.5 minimal install. just wanted to let yall know | 18:56 |
| nagyz | mnaser, ok, now I get an empty line | 18:58 |
| nagyz | without a domain | 18:58 |
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| mnaser | nagyz: empty table? | 18:58 |
| nagyz | empty line. :) | 18:58 |
| nagyz | are you running upstream or stable/icehouse? | 18:59 |
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| mnaser | stable | 18:59 |
| mnaser | what does debug show, nagyz ? | 18:59 |
| mnaser | on the api client side | 19:00 |
| nagyz | I see a mysql server has gone away message, oops. | 19:00 |
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| mnaser | :> | 19:00 |
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| nagyz | so for designate domain-create --name test.org --email x@y.com --tl 60 | 19:04 |
| nagyz | I get an error that "provided object does not match schema" | 19:05 |
| nagyz | "test.org is not a domain-name" | 19:05 |
| nagyz | hmm :) | 19:05 |
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| nagyz | designate server-list again returns an empty line | 19:06 |
| nagyz | interestingly I again see the mysql server has gone away message. hmm. | 19:06 |
| nagyz | but the mysql cluster is functioning properly | 19:07 |
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| nagyz | and every other OS service uses the same DB connections.. hm. | 19:08 |
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| mnaser | nagyz: i think the name has to be a full dns name | 19:10 |
| mnaser | so test.org. | 19:10 |
| mnaser | (note trailing dot) | 19:10 |
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| nagyz | right | 19:14 |
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| nagyz | cool works | 19:16 |
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| nagyz | is there a way to tell neutron to forget about already used IPs (for terminated VMs), and just start over? | 20:20 |
| nagyz | also, is there a way to pick the IP from the range used for DHCP? | 20:20 |
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