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| cpg | hi, is it possible to use two separate IP ranges for floating IPs for the same internal network with instances? | 07:12 |
| cpg | or it has to be in two separate subnets and two routers (to the same internal network)? | 07:12 |
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| boichev | Is there an option to allow GRE trough to an instance with neutron networking ? ... I'm having trouble starting a windows vpn server inside OpenStack IceHouse and connecting from outside ... from another instance in OpenStack it works. | 08:14 |
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| sobczyk_ | hi, how to unattach volume from SHUTOFF state VM? it's in-use, but I need to attach it to temp VM to etif screwed up fstab | 08:35 |
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| cpg | hi, where does the disk space from starting new instances come from? | 08:36 |
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| cpg | i am interested in configuring that for some instances to be from an SSD drive in the system | 08:37 |
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| linux-uzer | at least it is so in packstack. We have 5671 as ssl in rabbitmq.config and rabbitmq-env.conf has clients port 5672 | 08:53 |
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| linux-uzer | http://docs.openstack.org/security-guide/content/ch038_transport-security.html , got this. rabbitmq-env.conf should be empty | 09:18 |
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| exotime | Hi, I'm trying to get Neutron working and I keep coming up with this error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/6Cw7ZKcKrBQBK1voNJit/ | 10:31 |
| exotime | I've followed the openstackgeek setup instructions up until it goes to Nova, and then the Debian instructions for Neutron from the openstack docs. | 10:32 |
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| exotime | Any pointers would be appreciated. Openstack is still a mythical beast to me. | 10:33 |
| dknight087 | Hi Guys | 10:33 |
| dknight087 | could you please recommend the best pdf/ebook for beginners who want to learn openstack? | 10:33 |
| dknight087 | I want to understand how to deploy openstack nodes/instances using puppet automation | 10:34 |
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| linux-uzer | dknight087: first try to follow official installation guide for your distro, then beginning puppet would be a good start. After that Puppet Cookbook. Also check Puppetlabs Learning VM | 10:52 |
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| linux-uzer | following the official guide is critical to understand what is to do with puppet :) | 10:53 |
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| DocEmmetBrown | Hi all, I'm having issue on debian based openstack install, for live-migrations with block migrate. Eveything used to work like a charm, but now I get this error in the logs : "Returning exception can only parse strings"; seems to be broken since update to nova v 2014.1.2-7~bpo70+1. Anybody has had the same issue ? | 12:43 |
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| jpic | hi all, I'm looking at an openstack setup and I'm wondering: several services on different servers have different nova.conf. Ie: the compute node has a nova.conf, the novnc node has another nova.conf, the nova-api node has another one ... they are all different. Is it normal ? If you were in charge of automating deployments, would you go for one single version of nova.conf for all services ? | 12:46 |
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| Gwys | Hi all ! I'm trying to install openstack on three Ubuntu host. At this time, i need to launch the command nova image-list but i've a ERROR: Unauthorized (HTTP 401) | 12:56 |
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| Gwys | In nova logs i can see AMQP server on controller:5672 is unreachable: | 12:56 |
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| Gwys | I think about an mistake with rabbit_password | 12:57 |
| Gwys | Someone can help me | 12:57 |
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| jpic | Gwys: is rabbit up and running ? | 12:57 |
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| jpic | (i'd rather use zeromq than rabbit BTW, way simpler) | 12:58 |
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| Gwys | jpic > How can i check ? | 12:59 |
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| Gwys | tcp6 0 0 :::5672 :::* LISTEN | 13:00 |
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| Gwys | jpic > http://pastebin.com/eD63N2tZ | 13:00 |
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| Gwys | I set rabbit password in /etc/nova/nova.conf but how can i know the real password of Rabbit ? | 13:02 |
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| gaud | gwys, from the other host, can you ping "controller" ? | 13:03 |
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| Gwys | yes | 13:03 |
| jpic | see rabbitmqctl manual, section "User management", command "change_password" to reset the passworD: http://www.rabbitmq.com/man/rabbitmqctl.1.man.html | 13:03 |
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| jpic | but "unreachable" SHOULD mean that it can't even connect the the rabbitmq socket | 13:04 |
| jpic | complete traceback paste would help | 13:04 |
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| jpic | anyone about /etc/nova/nova.conf ? same question goes for /etc/nova/api-paste.conf | 13:05 |
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| gaud | Gwys from all host, try to nmap controller -p 5672 | 13:05 |
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| Gwys | Rooooh mistake on nova.conf | 13:08 |
| Gwys | thank all ! | 13:08 |
| Gwys | I can continue my new installation now :) | 13:08 |
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| jpic | is it a common practice to have different nova.conf for different services or would you rather say that it's a mistake ? | 13:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jpic: what do you mean? | 13:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | only the nova service has nova.conf | 13:21 |
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| jpic | Sam-I-Am: well we have nova-compute running on one server, and nova-api on another. They don't have the same nova.conf, so, I'm wondering ... is it normal or is it a mistake ? | 13:23 |
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| jpic | also, we have nova-novncproxy on another server, with another nova.conf | 13:23 |
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| OutBackDingo | Sam-I-Am: LOL re: our conversation the other day............ again...... FAIL | 13:27 |
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| OutBackDingo | apparently centos and openstack have a current selinux issue | 13:28 |
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| OutBackDingo | on juno | 13:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh? where at | 13:29 |
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| OutBackDingo | nove-api | 13:29 |
| _2_linny2 | huh? | 13:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | jpic: pretty sure i have the same config files where possible | 13:29 |
| _2_linny2 | :O | 13:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | jpic: easier management | 13:29 |
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| jpic | yeah, I would have done the same, the thing is that poeple maintain their configs in a wiki here | 13:30 |
| jpic | :D | 13:30 |
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| jpic | I'd really like to have a solid confirmation that the same nova.conf should be used for all services | 13:30 |
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| jpic | from nova-compute to nova-api including nova-novncproxy and thelike | 13:31 |
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| atpa8a__ | hmm | 13:33 |
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| atpa8a__ | i see "Used 20.0GB of 19.0GB" in dashboard on Hypervisor summary but df shows 12G available... wth?.. | 13:39 |
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| DHE | sparse disks? | 13:45 |
| gaud | atpa8a__ I think that it's not updating all the time, give it some time to update maybe? | 13:45 |
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| atpa8a__ | gaud, i didn't make any changes... not to hypervisor... | 13:46 |
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| gooblja | Hello everybody could somebody consult about Tab views in horizon... when I create new mytab(tabs.tabs.TabView) and give to it template_name = "path" my tab is not displayed in seperate template | 13:46 |
| gooblja | why could it be | 13:46 |
| gooblja | why could it ignore this variable? | 13:46 |
| atpa8a__ | i see ceilometer having problems connecting to mongodb | 13:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a__: ok? | 13:50 |
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| atpa8a | Sam-I-Am: yeah, you? | 13:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | atpa8a: no, i mean about your mongo problems | 13:51 |
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| atpa8a | looking :) | 13:51 |
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| atpa8a | eclipse has a pretty good terminal emulator/ssh client with tabs and whatnot (just FYI) | 13:54 |
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| hugespoon | general question, if im running a dev cluster on icehouse w/ neutron (openvswitch), a network controller node and a compute node and id like to leverage two physical provider networks what all do i need? ive been racking my brain getting things half working for a day or two. will i need to replicate bridges to each physical network on every compute node? | 14:10 |
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| hugespoon | using flat networking as well btw | 14:10 |
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| linux-uzer | hi, I am curious about what services beside compute use amqp | 14:16 |
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| Rajbir | Hi, | 14:17 |
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| Rajbir | I'm tring to deploy controller nodes in my Multi-Node HA setup | 14:17 |
| Rajbir | but getting the errors | 14:17 |
| Rajbir | http://paste.openstack.org/show/eaEqHHwPrpXfmlAQMf2K/ | 14:17 |
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| gaud | linux-uzer I think that all service are using it.. | 14:19 |
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| gaud | linux-uzer: if you are using rabbitmq, try to http://<rabbitmq>:15672/ you will see all the queue | 14:20 |
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| linux-uzer | thanks, gaud! | 14:23 |
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| sobczyk_ | I'm doing "glance image-create --is-public true --name new_image --container-format bare --disk-format raw --file image.raw" but the command hangs | 14:26 |
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| sobczyk_ | it was working before | 14:26 |
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| sobczyk_ | the rbd backed started to malfunction | 14:26 |
| wormwood | greetings all, recently setup a test openstack server and looking for a way to move an instance across nodes | 14:27 |
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| wormwood | did a live migration, but is there a way to do a non-live migration accross nodes? | 14:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack prefers non-live | 14:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | should be the default way it works. shut down host in one place, launch in another place | 14:40 |
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| KyleR | Good morning guys. | 15:06 |
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| KyleR | Weird issue: just updated my cloud nodes (cmp // net // con) and now I'm unable to reach the VMs. Prior to the update, everything was working. | 15:06 |
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| KyleR | The neutron-server log relays: Failed to bind port on host networkNode.Example.Com | 15:07 |
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| KyleR | None of the config files have changed since the update | 15:07 |
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| wormwood | Sam-I-Am: thanks. Yeah was looking into the nova migrate command, but there is no way to choose destination from my understanding. It is handled by the scheduler. | 15:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, thats kind of the cloudy way | 15:16 |
| wormwood | right | 15:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | configure the scheduler to make it work the way you need it | 15:17 |
| wormwood | got it, thanks again | 15:17 |
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| gooblja | is it possible on horizon using override add new view and display on separate page | 15:20 |
| gooblja | ? | 15:20 |
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| boden | anybody tried boot from vol or vol attach with the latest master branch using devstack all-in-one with cinder LVM? I'm getting the error -> Stderr: u'iscsiadm: No session found.\n' | 15:43 |
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| brandor5 | Hello everyone: I'm getting the following error in the neutron dhcp agent logs (http://pastebin.com/avXAnWZF). I can spawn instances but they do not receive a dhcp address. On the console I can manually assign the instances their ip address and ping other instances on the same subnet, but not the controller ip. Does anyone have any idea? | 16:11 |
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| joseff | hey all got a question on the st tool | 16:14 |
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| joseff | can't seem to get it built/installed right | 16:14 |
| joseff | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/swift/1.2/view/head:/bin/st | 16:14 |
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| joseff | anyone run ingot this before? | 16:15 |
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| joseff | got errors on actual use | 16:15 |
| joseff | File "/usr/bin/st", line 1715, in <module> | 16:16 |
| joseff | error_queue) is first error of 5 | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | brandor5: configuration error | 16:16 |
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| brandor5 | Sam-I-am: Any idea on where to start looking? | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | brandor5: something probably isn't configured to expect neutron and isn't consuming the queue | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | check to make sure all of your nova configs know about neutron | 16:16 |
| brandor5 | Sam-I-Am: Thanks | 16:16 |
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| pyuser | Hello All. I am facing error in installing OpenStack using RDO. Please see http://pastebin.com/0BA5dT1H | 16:26 |
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| gaud | where exactly can I specify what I want or not in ceilometer ? is it based on running agents ? | 16:51 |
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| larsks | gaud: you mean, from where does it read metrics? | 16:59 |
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| gaud | well.. I know it has data for nova.. but I don't see any agent for neutron.. I don't understand how it can get the data from nova.. | 17:00 |
| larsks | It listens on the rpc message bus for notifications from the various services. | 17:00 |
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| larsks | E.g., for nova, this configuration setting generates the data for ceilometer: notification_driver = ceilometer.compute.nova_notifier | 17:01 |
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| gaud | but the rpc messages won't tell him that tenantA transfered x amount of data.. (bandwidth calculation) | 17:02 |
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| mimizone | hi there. I am looking for glance images with very limited disk size requirement. I somehow can't have any instance with less than 15G with the typical images I used (Ubuntu, OSv, Cirros). | 17:03 |
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| larsks | gaud: I'm less familiar with how the neutron data is gathered. | 17:03 |
| gaud | ok, thanks | 17:03 |
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| larsks | mimizone: Most cloud images are very small, but adapt to the size of the disk provided by your selected flavor. Have you created a flavor with a small disk? | 17:03 |
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| mimizone | the smallest we can do is 15G in the flavors | 17:06 |
| mimizone | for instance, I would not expect the OSv or Cirros images to need 15G | 17:07 |
| mimizone | if we pick less than 15G in the flavor, the scheduler doesn't find any node | 17:07 |
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| mimizone | is it a problem with our setup of openstack itself? | 17:07 |
| larsks | mimizone: they don't require 15G. For example, the 'm1.tiny' flavor on my system only offers 1GB. I can boot cirros images on that without a problem. | 17:08 |
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| larsks | The fedora and centos cloud images are generally < 300MB. | 17:08 |
| mimizone | that's what I would expect | 17:08 |
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| larsks | If you are having problems, I would ensure that you are starting with known-good images straight from the upstream source, and boot them using the standard flavors in your openstack environment...and then carefully note any errors showing up in the various service logs (probably, scheduler and compute). | 17:09 |
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| championofcyrodi | hey guys, anyone get the vanilla hadoop clusters working with sahara? | 17:15 |
| championofcyrodi | i'm trying to make a vanilla hadoop 2.3.0, and when i start the cluster it says my node group template does not have floating ips? | 17:15 |
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| championofcyrodi | Node Group Spark is missing 'floating_ip_pool' field | 17:16 |
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| championofcyrodi | i think i see the problem | 17:16 |
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| championofcyrodi | i hope it doesnt use a floating IP for ALL the datanodes | 17:16 |
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| wormwood | what are the differences between using nova migrate and using something like nova evacuate-host? | 17:20 |
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| wormwood | evacuate-host allows target? | 17:21 |
| wormwood | err destination* | 17:21 |
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| championofcyrodi | i see, it just wants a floating IP pool, it doesnt associate any, but gives you the option after the instances are spawned | 17:21 |
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| Firespirit | hi all | 17:42 |
| Firespirit | can someone can explain me this error that stack-create command output | 17:42 |
| Firespirit | user_data coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, int found | 17:42 |
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| larsks | Firespirit: do you have a link to your template? | 17:42 |
| Firespirit | i will create one hold on | 17:43 |
| larsks | Firespirit: That errors sound like, "I wanted a string but you gave me a number"... | 17:43 |
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| Firespirit | https://gist.github.com/firespirit85/003edfe9ada372de44bc | 17:43 |
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| championofcyrodi | ugh, after the instances switched to running, they all requested floating IPs... :( | 17:44 |
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| championofcyrodi | so now i just ate up 6 IPs even though 5 are slave nodes that i dont really need access to | 17:44 |
| larsks | Firespirit: taking a look... | 17:44 |
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| larsks | Firespirit: I don't see anything obviously wrong with the user_data setting, although I do see several other errors (places where you have "Type" and "Properties" rather than "type" and "properties"). | 17:49 |
| larsks | If you remove the str_template function and simply hardcode the user_data, do you still get the same error? | 17:50 |
| Firespirit | hum ok | 17:50 |
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| Firespirit | i remove capital for lowercase but didn't make adifference | 17:51 |
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| Firespirit | is because of my volume_size1 parameter that is use in rdv_server1 resource? | 17:53 |
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| Buoy172 | Has anyone here developed an AIR native extension? | 17:56 |
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| Firespirit | larsks: any other idea? | 18:03 |
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| larsks | Firespirit: I'm not sure. I'm not able to test that locally very easily. | 18:04 |
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| Firespirit | larsks: ok | 18:08 |
| Firespirit | can can anyone else can took a look to my problem? | 18:09 |
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| xmltok | is anyone using live migration with qemu 2.0.0 on ubuntu 14.04 & icehouse? | 18:10 |
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| _Joshua__ | xmltok: icehouse, but with centos | 18:18 |
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| xmltok | _Joshua__: I've got this guys problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/232100, im wondering now if its maybe my glance image. i'm trying cirros shortly | 18:19 |
| xmltok | the weird thing is the empty device string | 18:19 |
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| _Joshua__ | xmltok: i haven't encountered this error before,but I am relatively new to this. | 18:21 |
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| xmltok | _Joshua__: just incase you do, i just live migrated the cirros image without any issues, so apparently something must have happened to my qcow2 file | 18:26 |
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| _Joshua__ | xmltok: good to know. thanks :) | 18:27 |
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| Firespirit | for this template: https://gist.github.com/firespirit85/003edfe9ada372de44bc when i try to create a stack i get this error: ERROR: Property error : rdv_server1: user_data coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, int found | 18:28 |
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| dmitryme | championofcyrodi: unfortunately, Sahara do needs floating IPs on all cluster nodes. That is unless your controller has direct access to VMs by their fixed IP | 19:31 |
| dmitryme | it is needed because because Sahara uses SSH to configure node | 19:32 |
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| dmitryme | championofcyrodi: btw Sahara has its own channel - #openstack-sahara | 19:34 |
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| sparr | I'm getting "ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation." when trying to do `nova --os-tenant-name foo list`. Also I can't get an instance list in the openstack web interface. | 20:00 |
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| sparr | I'm getting request and server timeouts and errors in the web interface | 20:13 |
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| RichardRaseley | In neutron, is it possible to limit the CIDRs that tenants can use in their private networks? For example, if I wanted everyone's networks to be within the 192.168.0.0 / 16 CIDR, could I just regex against that? The primary goal is to stop users from deploying 'private' IP spaces that match those of routable spaces in our external network. | 20:40 |
| RichardRaseley | External from neutron's perspective. | 20:40 |
| larsks | RichardRaseley: I don't think that's possible but it sounds like a reasonable idea. If you can't figure out how to do that it might be worth opening an RFE. | 20:41 |
| RichardRaseley | larsks: OK, thanks for the suggestion. | 20:41 |
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| Pryan | hello, installing rdo with packstack and NFS. When i try to create volume, it gives wrong directory permissions of /var/lib/cinder/mnt/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | 21:22 |
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| atpa8a__ | hmm | 21:24 |
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| atpa8a__ | where does ceilometer appear on the dashboard in icehouse?.. | 21:24 |
| Pryan | the installed version is juno | 21:24 |
| atpa8a__ | Resource Usage? | 21:24 |
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| blacksensei | Hello All, | 21:26 |
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| blacksensei | I need a little guidance in setting up openstack network | 21:28 |
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| atpa8a__ | follow the yellow brick road!.. | 21:29 |
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| Pryan | the question is what is the question | 21:30 |
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| blacksensei | There is an external network and an API network | 21:30 |
| blacksensei | supposing I have a clearos network in office under 192.168.0.0/24 | 21:30 |
| blacksensei | I assume that is my external network to openstack | 21:31 |
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| blacksensei | I am confuse as to what network is referred to as API network | 21:31 |
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| blacksensei | @Pryan any idea | 21:43 |
| blacksensei | ? | 21:43 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: Can you provide more info? | 22:15 |
| Joe_knock | Wait hold that thought. | 22:15 |
| Joe_knock | Brb | 22:15 |
| blacksensei | ok | 22:16 |
| blacksensei | ok | 22:16 |
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| Joe_knock | Bakc | 22:21 |
| Joe_knock | back | 22:21 |
| Joe_knock | blacksensei: Can you provide your response to my Q? Thanks | 22:21 |
| blacksensei | OK , I am trying to setup openstack using puppet and virtualbox using this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRzlmt56gCk | 22:22 |
| blacksensei | Leaving puppet on the side here is what I have been able to achieve | 22:22 |
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| blacksensei | Architecture is : 1 ops_network, 1 ops_controller , 1 ops_compute and 1 ops_storage | 22:23 |
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| blacksensei | these 4 nodes are VM powered by Virutalbox on my machine configured with 2 interfaces each | 22:24 |
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| blacksensei | 1 bridged interface and 1 NAT | 22:24 |
| Joe_knock | blacksensei: Is that video tutorial from someone recognised in the openstack world? | 22:24 |
| blacksensei | :D won't be able to tell, it's from puppetlab I believe | 22:25 |
| Joe_knock | or rather, an openstack recognized tutorial. | 22:25 |
| Joe_knock | aah, puppetlab, okay, that should be *okay* | 22:25 |
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| blacksensei | I am also new to openstack world so not too familiar with main actors etc | 22:25 |
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| blacksensei | So all nodes have IP assigned by my network dhcp 192.168.0.40-44 | 22:26 |
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| blacksensei | NAT interfaces are not configured yet | 22:26 |
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| blacksensei | Maybe it's not needed but just to say there is a second interface for each node in the virtualbox | 22:27 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: I may be able to save you a ton of time not worrying about install issues as you are now. Are you interested? | 22:28 |
| Joe_knock | What OS are you running in your VM? | 22:29 |
| blacksensei | totally interested | 22:29 |
| blacksensei | all ubuntu 14.04.1 | 22:29 |
| blacksensei | 64bits | 22:29 |
| Joe_knock | Awesome! | 22:29 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: Do you have a minimal version of ubuntu server 14.04? | 22:29 |
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| blacksensei | I can always get it, I have the ISO i think | 22:30 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: If internet speed is not an issue, can you DL a minimal Ubuntu 14.04 server OS ? It should be around 30-40MBs | 22:31 |
| blacksensei | ok | 22:31 |
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| Joe_knock | While waiting, let me link you to the instructions I am following to help you: http://devstack.org/ | 22:32 |
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| blacksensei | I have actually already used devstack on my VM, I was actually looking at a mid real, mid lab kind of setup simulating real cloud | 22:34 |
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| Joe_knock | aah okay my apologies, I thought you were testing the system out. | 22:34 |
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| blacksensei | So the thing is , I have hit so many times a block while setting up from scratch | 22:35 |
| blacksensei | manually | 22:35 |
| atpa8a__ | hmm | 22:35 |
| blacksensei | so this time , i was like going through a configuration management tool | 22:36 |
| atpa8a__ | blacksensei, in neutron? | 22:36 |
| Joe_knock | I suggest you consider using multiple pieces of hardware instead of trying to virtualize. Actual hardware for cloud simulation will give you a better understanding IMO | 22:36 |
| atpa8a__ | i just finished AIO on actual hardware - works pretty well | 22:36 |
| blacksensei | that is each hardware/box with 2 ethernet ports? | 22:37 |
| atpa8a__ | tho i don't see any ceilometer views in horizon... | 22:37 |
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| Joe_knock | You could attempt doing it using a router... | 22:38 |
| blacksensei | atpa8a what is AIO | 22:38 |
| blacksensei | ? | 22:38 |
| atpa8a__ | all-in-one | 22:39 |
| atpa8a__ | everything on one box | 22:39 |
| blacksensei | Ok | 22:39 |
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| atpa8a__ | even managed to setup more then one external network... tho i've a switch that understands VLANs | 22:40 |
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| blacksensei | I need to actually show case openstack so, I need a little more then an AIO and Devstack setup, I have shown that to my colleagues already | 22:40 |
| atpa8a__ | (but i haven't used vlan type_driver) | 22:40 |
| blacksensei | OK right now I have 1 dell powerful Server (2eth) , 1 HP desktop (can wipe and put ubuntu server on it but 1 et) | 22:41 |
| blacksensei | 1eth | 22:41 |
| Joe_knock | Let's see now. This is the type of setup I can think of. Ubuntu minimal on 3 pieces of hardware connected via a router, all running KVM. Now you just need to get openstack setup on them. I assume you will have to choose 1 as the master and the others will be dummies/slaves. | 22:41 |
| Joe_knock | Somebody should chip in on the slave/master part. | 22:41 |
| blacksensei | So I understand master == controller? | 22:41 |
| * Joe_knock is a bit unclear there | 22:41 | |
| atpa8a__ | blacksensei, in that case you should be able to do something like http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html#example-architecture-with-legacy-networking but with neutron | 22:42 |
| blacksensei | I was asking what you mean by master and slave | 22:42 |
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| blacksensei | @Joe_knock | 22:43 |
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| blacksensei | checking up your link atpa8a__ | 22:43 |
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| atpa8a__ | blacksensei, typical openstack architecture is controller, network and compute nodes | 22:44 |
| atpa8a__ | btw... can someone have multiple network nodes?.. | 22:44 |
| blacksensei | yeah, thats what I understand | 22:44 |
| Joe_knock | blacksensei: I was actually referring to myself when I said "somebody else should chip in, as I am unclear on the slave/master part of things". | 22:44 |
| blacksensei | ok | 22:45 |
| blacksensei | So before I start | 22:45 |
| blacksensei | can someone explain some concepts about management network, private network, api network for me? | 22:45 |
| atpa8a__ | blacksensei, you can try juno for a demo as i found that at least neutron installation instructions are better | 22:46 |
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| blacksensei | sounds confusing as if each member of the stack (compute, controller, network) should have 2 eths each | 22:46 |
| blacksensei | sorry 3 eths each | 22:46 |
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| atpa8a__ | blacksensei, folkes here were saying that even 1 nic should be enough... | 22:47 |
| blacksensei | really | 22:47 |
| atpa8a__ | management network is in your "normal" network so you can acces the box(s) if OS network goes down | 22:48 |
| blacksensei | is it handled by neutron? | 22:48 |
| atpa8a__ | no | 22:48 |
| atpa8a__ | that's the IP by which you reliably ssh into the box if openstack is down | 22:49 |
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| blacksensei | so if main network assigns IP under 192.168.0.0/24 to the nodes, how would management network be under something like 172.16.33.0/24? | 22:49 |
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| atpa8a__ | i found it easier to understand from the other end... if your "normal" servers are on 172.16.33.0/24, then your management IF is also there | 22:51 |
| blacksensei | so both networks are on 172.16.33.0/24? | 22:52 |
| atpa8a__ | your router should be able to route the 192.168.0.0/24 as well and you would bridge the other NIC and give it to neutron and you will use neutron commands to create that network | 22:52 |
| atpa8a__ | you get your floating IPs on that network | 22:53 |
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| atpa8a__ | tenant networks don't need physical interfaces | 22:54 |
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| atpa8a__ | also your controller, network and compute nodes talk on your management network | 22:55 |
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| blacksensei | there is a little problem for me with that approach | 22:58 |
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| blacksensei | I use clearOS for office network.(dhcp,dns etc) it's a box based on centOS . it has 2 eths and one is in the internet router(vodafone modem) and one in the main switch | 22:59 |
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| blacksensei | atpa8a__ | 23:04 |
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| blacksensei | you there? | 23:05 |
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| atpa8a__ | blacksensei, not really :) it's friday night | 23:14 |
| blacksensei | lol | 23:14 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: I recommend you consider picking up a router or some type of ethernet switch | 23:20 |
| blacksensei | Ok so full physical setup | 23:21 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: What are you attempting to use openstack for? | 23:24 |
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| blacksensei | a showcase to management ,for internal use of our new data science department | 23:25 |
| blacksensei | setup hadoop cluster on top of it and have them run job from mongodb which we have started using for more than a year as nosql db. | 23:26 |
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| blacksensei | so those kind of infrastructrue kind of things | 23:26 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: Before you guys invest too much time in Mongo, have you looked at Cassandra? | 23:27 |
| blacksensei | we we had initial talk using devstack, so I need to show this | 23:27 |
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| blacksensei | Yeah, I am building a smpp client based on cloudhopper storing message et all in cassandra | 23:28 |
| blacksensei | datastax guys made available awesome tools for moniroting etc | 23:28 |
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| blacksensei | I am still in the trial stage but its similarity to sql itself makes it easy | 23:29 |
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| blacksensei | trial and catch I mean | 23:29 |
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| Joe_knock | Strange that you're setting up a data science department blacksensei :P I've been meaning to branch out into Python data science stuff. Seems more appealling than web dev work | 23:31 |
| blacksensei | he he he | 23:31 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: If all the servers are located in the same building/storage space, you don't actually need openstack. | 23:31 |
| blacksensei | yeah , more killer stuff in that kind of job description | 23:31 |
| blacksensei | oh yeah ?tell me more | 23:32 |
| Joe_knock | blacksensei: More like, nobody trusts self-taught web devs :P | 23:32 |
| blacksensei | oh I am actually one of them.... self-taught all the way ;) | 23:32 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: If I was setting it up, I'd simply consider a cluster network. You can then setup something like KVM to create virtual instances and then run your computations on it. | 23:34 |
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| Joe_knock | Okay, maybe you do need openstack for provisioning, depending on your data centre size. | 23:37 |
| blacksensei | yeah for pulling huge resources for particular jobs etc | 23:37 |
| Joe_knock | blacksensei: Can you give a rough idea of the hardware you guys will be using? | 23:37 |
| blacksensei | data crunching | 23:37 |
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| Joe_knock | blacksensei: ?? | 23:42 |
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| blacksensei | Not quite definite, but I have 2 racks to be filled | 23:44 |
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| blacksensei | sorry was on phone | 23:44 |
| Joe_knock | No probs | 23:44 |
| Joe_knock | I'm not quite sure if openstack is applicable to your scenario | 23:45 |
| blacksensei | what do you suggest | 23:45 |
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| Joe_knock | Can't you just provision the resources between storage and computation and work with that? | 23:46 |
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| Joe_knock | You can cluster the storage and cluster the computation and then do your work on the system. | 23:47 |
| blacksensei | nope | 23:47 |
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| blacksensei | hemnass | 23:48 |
| blacksensei | ? | 23:48 |
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| Joe_knock | interesting. | 23:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | Joe_knock: howdy | 23:49 |
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| Joe_knock | Hey there Sam-I-Am | 23:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | we were talking a bit ago... | 23:50 |
| Joe_knock | Sam-I-Am: Yep :) Haven't forgotten you. | 23:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 23:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure where we left off | 23:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | rackspace? general openstack things? | 23:51 |
| Joe_knock | uhmm, yeah. it was about you picking up openstack out of interest and then joining rackspace | 23:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ah. yeah. | 23:53 |
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| Joe_knock | Are most folks remote? | 23:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends on the department | 23:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | in my department, a decent chunk of devs are remote | 23:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | some are in offices in other countries | 23:55 |
| Joe_knock | offices? nobody working from their home in iceland? :P | 23:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | theres home offices in other countries too | 23:56 |
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