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| craigjb | Does anyone know how to bridge a node outside of my openstack cluster into the private fixed-ip network? I am use nova-network, and the vms can talk to each other, but I need one server outside to be able to access the VMs on their fixed ips. | 03:32 |
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| craigjb | I can route traffic to VMs per compute node using ip route add 10.78.56.0/24 via COMPUTE_NODE_IP, but then I cannot access VMs on the other compute nodes | 03:34 |
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| tako89 | does the external and management network have to be on different subnets? | 03:51 |
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| craigjb | no. The external server is on the same network as the compute nodes | 03:54 |
| craigjb | the external server has one NIC on the network | 03:54 |
| craigjb | each compute nodes has two NICs on the network | 03:54 |
| craigjb | one with an IP and one without for forwarding VM traffic | 03:54 |
| craigjb | each compute node has br100 between the second NIC and nova-network | 03:54 |
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| tako89 | ok got it. I have setup a openstack using nova-network. everything is fine up to the point where I try to ping or ssh into my instance from my controller. | 04:01 |
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| tako89 | from the compute node that is running the instance, I can ping and ssh fine however. | 04:03 |
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| craigjb | If I have multiple compute nodes running each with nova-network in multi_host mode, how do I enable my separate cloud controller to ping/ssh the instances running on the compute nodes? Currently the controller and compute nodes are in the same network, and the instances can see each other, but the cloud controller can't see them | 06:26 |
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| craigjb | If I do a ip route add INSTANCE_IP via COMPUTE_NODE_IP I can see that instance | 06:27 |
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| Firespirit | someone is familiar with swift here? | 06:49 |
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| p01s0n | hi is there any way to track changes made by each tenants | 07:44 |
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| shmiti | Hey guys, I'm installing openstack for the first time and I have problems accessing the dashboard, I get an error saying that Authorization Failed: Cannot authenticate without an auth_url, but I DID set the OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_URL.. I'm buffled | 08:13 |
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| shmiti | Hep is much appriciated :) | 08:14 |
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| teju | shmiti : can u paste ur dashboard local settings file? | 08:37 |
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| shmiti | Teduardo, I've found the problem, there's something wrong (in 2 places) in the documentation/code, the issue is that http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/install_dashboard.html tells you to fix the OPENSTACK_HOST, but only after I've uncommented the AVAILABLE_REGIONS I could login | 08:43 |
| ggnel | hi | 08:44 |
| ggnel | hi | 08:44 |
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| shmiti | teju, sorry, it was for you | 08:44 |
| ggnel | can we use several implementation of AMQP | 08:44 |
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| teju | shmiti : ok | 08:45 |
| ggnel | example : /etc/nova-backup/nova.conf:180:rpc_backend=rabbit and /etc/neutron-avant-reinstall/neutron.conf:444:rpc_backend=neutron.openstack.common.rpc.impl_kombu | 08:45 |
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| shmiti | I think the documentation needs to be fixed | 08:45 |
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| teju | shmiti : i installed juno in Ubuntu 14.04 and AVAILABLE_REGIONS is commented out by default... | 08:47 |
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| [Leeloo] | Hi | 09:14 |
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| [Leeloo] | On a centos 6.7 (openstack-packstack icehouse), after my last upate, I can no more stop/reboot the intances. Nova compute.log gives me "NovaException: Failed to add interface: can't add lo to bridge br100: Invalid argument" | 09:15 |
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| vishvendra | Failed to launch instance "small": Please try again later [Error: No valid host was found. ]. | 09:18 |
| vishvendra | how to troubleshoot oit? | 09:19 |
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| vishvendra | my compute node isworking fine... but at the time of launching it gives no valid host found | 09:19 |
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| MalteJ | is it possible to assign a ipv6 subnet to a vm and not just one ipv6? | 11:04 |
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| MalteJ | e.g. the host machine has a /64 and every guest vm should get a /72 or /80 | 11:06 |
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| _Joshua_ | MalteJ: which version of openstack are you using? | 12:17 |
| MalteJ | _Joshua_: current devstack | 12:18 |
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| MalteJ | but at the moment I am struggling with something else: as soon as I am setting use_ssl=True the nova-network wants to change the bridge's IPv6 to "None" | 12:19 |
| MalteJ | Command: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf ip -f inet6 addr change None dev br100 | 12:19 |
| MalteJ | Stderr: u'Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "None".\n' | 12:20 |
| _Joshua_ | MalteJ: i haven't used devstack before. But I had problem with ipv6 with icehouse. Juno is suppose to offer better ipv6 support. | 12:20 |
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| MalteJ | _Joshua_: do you know how I can define the bridge's IP? | 12:21 |
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| _Joshua_ | MalteJ: sorry...i don't. I think it is something within ovs though. | 12:24 |
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| Putns | MalteJ: isnt the bridges IP determined by the network that the VM is using? | 12:28 |
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| Putns | try nova net-list and compare that to the br100 adress | 12:28 |
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| MalteJ | nova net-list shows only ipv4 addresses | 12:29 |
| Putns | oh, ipv6 | 12:29 |
| Putns | no idea about that | 12:29 |
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| MalteJ | if I enable IPv6 nova-network does not start | 12:29 |
| MalteJ | the stacktrace led me to this: | 12:30 |
| MalteJ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127014/ | 12:30 |
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| MalteJ | for network in objects.NetworkList.get_by_host(ctxt, self.host): | 12:30 |
| MalteJ | in the "network" object the IPv6 seems to be None | 12:31 |
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| Putns | i really dont know about this, but maybe you need to explicitly create a network that has a v6 range or something? | 12:33 |
| Putns | or change the existing one | 12:33 |
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| Putns | --fixed-range-v6 | 12:35 |
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| MalteJ | Putns: argh, I have added the IPv6 to the public network - not to the private | 12:54 |
| MalteJ | Putns: works now :) thank you | 12:54 |
| Putns | hah | 12:54 |
| Putns | a shot in the dark | 12:54 |
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| _Joshua_ | nice work :) | 12:55 |
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| MalteJ | ohh | 12:56 |
| MalteJ | just works when no VMs are running :D | 12:56 |
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| Putns | are the VMs using the correct network? | 12:57 |
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| MalteJ | I have deleted all networks but one | 12:57 |
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| summit | Hey All, I am using cosbench with swift , but after running cosbench 2 times it shows error unable to login to swift machine | 14:07 |
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| summit | why this problem occurs? | 14:07 |
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| pcn | I don't use swift, but what do the logs say? | 14:16 |
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| vills | Hi guys. I can store custom properties on images in glance. But after delete image, i can's see this custom properties. Maybe there is way to change this behavior? | 14:18 |
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| vills | Ok. This data is actually in database, but not show in responce from glance-api | 14:23 |
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| admin0 | how to view how much storage in total all the instances are using ? | 14:32 |
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| p01s0n | hi in nova-network is it possible to have dynamic VLAN ie for each new tenant vlan has to be automatically assigned | 14:50 |
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| boichev | Do I really need to set libvirt_cpu_mode and libvirt_cpu_model in order to make Live migrations between different cpu types ? | 14:51 |
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| boichev | because I get "InvalidCPUInfo: Unacceptable CPU info: CPU doesn't have compatibility." When trying to live migrate from host with Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v2 to host with Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670.... The other way around works with no problem and the normal migrate works both ways | 14:56 |
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| [Leeloo] | On a centos 6.7 (openstack-packstack icehouse), after my last upate, I can no more stop/reboot the intances. Nova compute.log gives me "NovaException: Failed to add interface: can't add lo to bridge br100: Invalid argument" | 15:00 |
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| hezekiah_ | when i reboot an instance from inside the instance, it goes into SHUTDOWN state instead of coming back up. is there a way to change this behavior? (googling for this is impossible) | 15:25 |
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| MilesDenver | hezekiah_: You are rebooting the instance and not the compute node, right? | 15:27 |
| ggnel | hi | 15:27 |
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| ggnel | :q | 15:27 |
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| ggnel | i want to add traces for debuging my juno openstack. in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/network/rpcapi.py . method 'print' don't write in log. do you know the method to add traces ? | 15:29 |
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| hezekiah_ | MilesDenver: yes. just doing 'reboot' from the instance command line (via ssh) | 15:30 |
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| eandersson | ggnel: Print will only work if you launch the application directly from the terminal. | 15:31 |
| eandersson | You could probably add logging though. | 15:31 |
| eandersson | from nova.openstack.common import log as logging | 15:31 |
| eandersson | LOG = logging.getLogger(__name__) | 15:31 |
| MilesDenver | hezekiah_: I don't understand that behavior. It's not something I have seen and not normal. | 15:31 |
| eandersson | LOG.info('my message') | 15:31 |
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| hezekiah_ | I'm running xen under libvirt (and yes, i know) | 15:31 |
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| MilesDenver | hezekiah_: hmmm so you have to bring it up in libvirt? | 15:32 |
| ggnel | eandersson: thanks, i test | 15:32 |
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| hezekiah_ | no. I can do a nova start <inst> | 15:32 |
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| MilesDenver | hezekiah_: I cannot help much, but I suspect a virsh command or setting. | 15:34 |
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| hezekiah_ | MilesDenver: this behavior doesn't exhibit on my KVM cluster | 15:42 |
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| MilesDenver | hezekiah_: yea… I'm a KVM guy. If I think of something I'll post. But I'm lost on this issue. | 15:44 |
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| hezekiah_ | so maybe xen is doing something different: I see | 15:52 |
| hezekiah_ | 2014-10-30 15:37:00.420 5057 WARNING nova.compute.manager [-] [instance: cc7ea6fa-13cc-4466-92ca-c05e2208e18f] Instance is not stopped. Calling the stop API. | 15:52 |
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| hezekiah_ | so on KVM I don't see that on the nova-compute node | 15:57 |
| geaaru | hi, current juno release support libgfapi library for glusterfs or use fuse implementation ? thanks in advance | 15:57 |
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| p01s0n | hello all ,is there a way to dynamically map VLAN to each new tenant with nova-network | 16:25 |
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| codeberry | Hi Folks | 16:53 |
| codeberry | anybody available for a question? | 16:54 |
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| [Leeloo] | On a centos 6.7 (openstack-packstack icehouse), after my last upate, I can no more stop/reboot the intances. Nova compute.log gives me "NovaException: Failed to add interface: can't add lo to bridge br100: Invalid argument". thanks for any help :) | 17:21 |
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| gaud | [Leeloo], check if the update didn't overwrite plugins for your /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini | 17:48 |
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| gaud | happened to be once that after an upgrade, the sylink was replaced with a real file , I had to symlink /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini to the right place because the initscript was forcing it.. | 17:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | br100 sounds like a nova-net install | 17:50 |
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| codeberry | Guys, I'm getting the following error, trying to boot an instance: NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 17:52 |
| codeberry | any suggestions? | 17:52 |
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| [Leeloo] | gaud Sam-I-Am : yes it's a nova net install | 17:53 |
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| [Leeloo] | gaud: will this still apply ? | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | codeberry: new install? | 17:53 |
| gaud | [Leeloo] no. | 17:53 |
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| codeberry | Sam-I-Am: yes ... just installed | 17:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron? | 17:54 |
| codeberry | Sam-I-Am: yes | 17:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whats the output of 'neutron agent-list' ? | 17:55 |
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| [Leeloo] | gaud :( :) | 17:55 |
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| codeberry | +--------------------------------------+----------------+-------------------------------------+-------+----------------+ | 17:56 |
| codeberry | | id | agent_type | host | alive | admin_state_up | | 17:56 |
| codeberry | +--------------------------------------+----------------+-------------------------------------+-------+----------------+ | 17:56 |
| codeberry | | 3df45504-8175-4906-8ce0-2c12023d32b9 | DHCP agent | controller01.openstack.plusline.net | :-) | True | | 17:56 |
| codeberry | | f347d08a-6f49-44ca-bd61-4185c45ee4a5 | Metadata agent | controller01.openstack.plusline.net | :-) | True | | 17:56 |
| codeberry | +--------------------------------------+----------------+-------------------------------------+-------+----------------+ | 17:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | pastebin is a Good Thing | 17:56 |
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| codeberry | ou ... sorry | 17:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | codeberry: which instructions did you follow to install this?/ | 17:57 |
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| codeberry | http://oddbit.com/rdo-hangout-multinode-packstack-slides | 17:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in that case, its pretty clear your install is missing stuff | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | the dhcp agent and metadata agent should not be running on the controller node | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | for one... | 17:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | and i dont see any L3 agent or openvswitch agents | 17:59 |
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| codeberry | ok ... sorry, I didnt mentioned: controller is also the network node | 17:59 |
| codeberry | ok ... then L3 agent (or openswitch one ) is still missing | 18:01 |
| codeberry | right ? | 18:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if the controller is also the network node, you're missing the L3 agent and openvswitch agent there. the compute node needs an openvswitch agent. | 18:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | considering they're not even listed (rather than being listed as broken) makes me wonder if they're even installed | 18:03 |
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| laila61 | what school do u go to | 18:03 |
| codeberry | ok ... strage, there were no error during installation | 18:03 |
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| laila61 | how old r u | 18:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | codeberry: might be something missing from the packstack config file | 18:04 |
| codeberry | Sam-I-Am: which instructions would you recommend for a very simple setup: controller + 2 compute nodes? | 18:04 |
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| Joe_knock | laila61: bot? | 18:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | codeberry: for a first-time proof-of-concept install, i would do a manual installation using the installation guide at docs.openstack.org before wrapping automation/devops around it. | 18:05 |
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| codeberry | ok ... you are right ... | 18:07 |
| codeberry | Sam-I-Am: thanx a lot | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | codeberry: it helps to know whats really going on with openstack | 18:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | because it will break | 18:08 |
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| gaud | oh yes.. it will :) | 18:08 |
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| codeberry | right! | 18:08 |
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| gaud | someone played with DVR? I am having that weird problem(?) where all compute node have the same entries in the fip namespace that it create... | 18:31 |
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| gaud | by entries, I mean the same "ip route show" | 18:32 |
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| gaud | so the result is.. I have a vm on compute1 and a vm on compute2.. if I associate a floating IP on vm1, it pings out but as soon as I associate a vip to vm2, I lose connectivity on vm1.. | 18:43 |
| eth2 | hey gaud | 18:43 |
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| X123 | Anyone alive that can answer a question/bug about DVR? | 19:26 |
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| Joe_knock | X123: Ask and (hopefully) someone will answer | 19:31 |
| X123 | my coworker asked like an hour ago and no response :) | 19:31 |
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| X123 | this is my issue | 19:31 |
| X123 | Whenever create FIP on a VM, it adds the FIP to ALL other compute nodes, a routing prefix in the FIP namespace, and IP interface alias on the qrouter. However, the iptables gets updated normally with only the DNAT for the particular IP of the VM on that compute node This causes the FIP proxy arp to answer ARP requests for ALL VM's on ALL compute nodes which results in compute nodes answering ARPs where they do not have the VM effectively blackholing traffi | 19:31 |
| X123 | it's a major bug | 19:32 |
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| X123 | on top of that it's not cleaning up old ovs bridged interfaces | 19:34 |
| X123 | or the namespaces | 19:34 |
| X123 | but that doesn't cause a functional issue | 19:34 |
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| Joe_knock | Sam-I-Am: That question is probably something you can handle. | 19:37 |
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| pcn | So is this bug still present in icehouse? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1192883 | 19:50 |
| pcn | I have my public router interface, which is always down, and it doesn't pass traffic. I don't know if I've got the wrong config, or a red herring | 19:51 |
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| Joe_knock | pcn: If the bug is critical, it wont stay there long. If your use-case is unique, welll.... | 19:53 |
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| pcn | I'm running a single controller with 1 ethernet interface, and a single hypervisor with 1 ethernet interface as a test, using ovs+vxlan | 19:54 |
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| pcn | Pretty vanilla as a test setup (I think). It's also a test case that was working in the recent past before I moved to a new DC. Now I don't recall if I had the external interface as down or not when it worked. | 19:55 |
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| X123 | the external bridge interface in OVS seems to never have an UP state | 19:56 |
| X123 | for example if u made bridge public | 19:57 |
| X123 | and bridge in eth0 | 19:57 |
| X123 | you'll have an interface like this | 19:57 |
| X123 | 10: public: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 9000 qdisc noop state DOWN | 19:57 |
| X123 | not sure why it's down but it is | 19:57 |
| X123 | and it still works | 19:57 |
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| X123 | i assume it's because that interface isn't actually being used by the system | 19:58 |
| X123 | (the host OS) | 19:58 |
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| X123 | it's just a placeholder in case you want to attach an ip address | 19:58 |
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| X123 | the physical interface can't be down though :) | 19:59 |
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| pcn | I've got physical and br-ex both up, | 19:59 |
| pcn | I'm using ovs 2.3.0 | 19:59 |
| pcn | 4: br-ex: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP | 20:00 |
| X123 | well for example br-ex doesn't have to be up | 20:00 |
| X123 | but if you do ovs-vsctl list-ports br-ex | 20:00 |
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| X123 | the interfaces that it's bridged to need to be up | 20:00 |
| X123 | br-ex is just a virtual port it's like | 20:00 |
| X123 | an SVI on cisco | 20:01 |
| X123 | doesn't have to be up for the vlan to work | 20:01 |
| X123 | the bridge is a vlan basically | 20:01 |
| X123 | or more precisely a virtual switch | 20:01 |
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| pcn | Hmm. | 20:03 |
| X123 | what does ovs-vsctl list-ports br-ex | 20:03 |
| X123 | ? | 20:03 |
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| pcn | I've just wiped it out, hang on let me re-create the neutron networks | 20:04 |
| X123 | neutron doesn't create br-ex you have to do it maunally on each ovs node | 20:04 |
| pcn | Yeah, let me re-run chef, too. | 20:05 |
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| pcn | I did a burn everything to the ground a bit earlier today, looks like br-ex is currently not in ovsdb | 20:05 |
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| pcn | Thank you for adding that bit of clarity, though. I look at this every few weeks and forget stuff. | 20:06 |
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| jackjackdrpr | I setup my kvm in such a way that it has an lvm volgroup to use as storage. If I want to use it as a nova compute do I just have libvirt handle the volume creation or do I have to add it as a cinder block device? hypervisor tab in horizon can now see the lvm group but I'm getting a status error when I create the volume. Debug mode in nova is not very helpful. | 20:08 |
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| X123 | ah :) well that should be it then | 20:09 |
| X123 | yw | 20:09 |
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| gaud | the problem I was talking about earlier about DVR and the floating IP : https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/52312/floating-ip-problem-under-juno-dvr/ | 20:21 |
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| shailendra | hello folks | 20:22 |
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| shailendra | i m getting issue that neutron server is not running | 20:22 |
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| shailendra | it was working fine till yesterday but i dont know what happend | 20:22 |
| shailendra | here is log http://paste.openstack.org/show/127194/ | 20:23 |
| shailendra | of neutron server | 20:23 |
| shailendra | can anybody tell me what to do | 20:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | shailendra: i dont see any errors in that log | 20:24 |
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| shailendra | i m also confused | 20:25 |
| shailendra | it is not running | 20:25 |
| shailendra | and also my dashboard shows error | 20:25 |
| shailendra | something went wrong | 20:25 |
| shailendra | i can understand it might because neutron-server is not working | 20:26 |
| shailendra | but i dont know what to do ? | 20:26 |
| shailendra | what should i show to u so u could tell me to debug this error | 20:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... you start neutron-server and it immediately stops? | 20:27 |
| shailendra | it doesn't start | 20:27 |
| shailendra | service neutron-server start doesn't give any output | 20:28 |
| shailendra | service neutron-server status says neutron-server is stopped | 20:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | try starting it manually | 20:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | (not using the init script) | 20:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | probably a python problem of some sort | 20:28 |
| shailendra | how ? | 20:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | what did you change before this happened? | 20:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | ummmmmm /usr/bin/neutron-server | 20:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | might need to tell it where your config files are too | 20:29 |
| shailendra | actually i launched instance first time after a long period of errors | 20:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | shailendra: keep it in the channel | 20:32 |
| shailendra | ok | 20:32 |
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| shailendra | what should i do ? | 20:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what happens when you try to start neutron-server manually? | 20:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also 'verbose = true' in the config file might be helpful if its not already there | 20:33 |
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| shailendra | verbose= true is already done | 20:35 |
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| shailendra | how to start manually ? | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | i told you how | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is basic linux systems administration | 20:35 |
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| shailendra | its init.d ...? right | 20:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the init script | 20:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | the service is probably in /usr/bin | 20:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can do 'which neutron-server' or see how the init script starts it | 20:37 |
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| eandersson | normally you can just type neutron-server in the terminal and hit enter | 20:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that usually works too, although it might need some options | 20:38 |
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| shailendra | i just used /etc/init.d/neutron-server start | 20:40 |
| shailendra | it also fails | 20:41 |
| eandersson | that is the same as service neutron-server start :) | 20:41 |
| shailendra | so how to do maually plz tell me | 20:41 |
| eandersson | try simply typing neutron-server and then hit enter ;) | 20:42 |
| eandersson | if that doesn't work do what Sam-I-Am said | 20:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm outta here for a bit, bbl | 20:42 |
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| MentalRay | Quick question for people who has used DVR in Juno yet | 20:44 |
| zechariah | Hey guys, sorry to ask if i'm in wrong place.. but i'm looking for recommendations or where to find recommendations on deploying a high availability environment (so far my research has led me to openstack..now here I am) | 20:45 |
| MentalRay | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/52312/floating-ip-problem-under-juno-dvr/ | 20:45 |
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| zechariah | I am actually looking for a service provider to /do this/ -- preferably to clarify. | 20:45 |
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| shailendra | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127223/ | 20:48 |
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| shailendra | see this | 20:48 |
| eandersson | Find the line with debug = True | 20:48 |
| eandersson | Remove the space in front of it and try again | 20:48 |
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| th3rt | I am having problems booting instances. The instances will go into "spawning" and then will be placed into "error'. The logs on nova-compute show this error. Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed. | 21:03 |
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| th3rt | I've noticed that my port connecting my external gateway to my router has "binding_failed" in the binding:vif_type field of neutron port-show. | 21:04 |
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| eandersson | did you check this out already? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1303998 | 21:04 |
| th3rt | I'm not sure what to do to fix this. ovs-vsctl show seems to be OK. I can ping my default gateway from the router when I use ip netns to chroot into it. | 21:04 |
| th3rt | Looking.... | 21:05 |
| eandersson | ah nvm | 21:05 |
| th3rt | Yes. I looked at that. No luck there though. | 21:06 |
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| th3rt | I also tried editing /etc/init/neutron-server.conf to make sure it was pulling in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini | 21:06 |
| th3rt | That didn't help either | 21:06 |
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| th3rt | I also checked for extra spaces or whitespace at the end of my config file. | 21:07 |
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| th3rt | file[s] | 21:07 |
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| shailendra | now dashboard has begun to show but neutron-server is still not running | 21:09 |
| eandersson | does it work alright when running from the termninal now? | 21:10 |
| eandersson | keep in mind once everything seems ok you need to start it as a service | 21:11 |
| shailendra | when i type neutron-server on terminal and then tried for dashboard it run successful | 21:12 |
| shailendra | but when i aborted via ctrl+c dashboard again shows error | 21:12 |
| shailendra | how to resolve ? | 21:12 |
| eandersson | try: service neutron-server start | 21:12 |
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| shailendra | not working | 21:13 |
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| shailendra | still it says neutron-server stopped | 21:13 |
| eandersson | do you have any logs? | 21:14 |
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| shailendra | and manually it doesn't stop means i think it works manually as i looking but if i stop this it will not work | 21:14 |
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| shailendra | which log | 21:14 |
| eandersson | cd /var/og/neutron/ | 21:14 |
| eandersson | tail -100f server.log | 21:14 |
| shailendra | r u /var/log/neutron/server.log | 21:14 |
| eandersson | yep | 21:15 |
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| eandersson | tail -100f /var/log/neutron/server.log | 21:15 |
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| eandersson | If needed you can show us the logs using by pasting them here http://paste.openstack.org/ | 21:17 |
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| shailendra | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127237/ | 21:18 |
| shailendra | see it | 21:18 |
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| eandersson | what is the time on the server? | 21:19 |
| shailendra | time ? | 21:19 |
| eandersson | write date in the terminal | 21:19 |
| eandersson | also maybe try sudo service neutron-server start | 21:19 |
| shailendra | ok u r talking about my machine time | 21:20 |
| eandersson | in case it can't write due to permissions | 21:20 |
| eandersson | yep | 21:20 |
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| eandersson | I assume those logs are old, but you never know | 21:20 |
| shailendra | 2:50 | 21:20 |
| shailendra | actullay the cmd doesn't stop | 21:20 |
| shailendra | tail -100f /var/log/neutron/server.log | 21:21 |
| eandersson | ah yea the f means follow | 21:21 |
| eandersson | if you want them to stop simply do tail -100 /file/path | 21:21 |
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| eandersson | I usually have two terminals open | 21:21 |
| eandersson | one with the logs and tail -100f | 21:22 |
| eandersson | and then one where I actually start the service | 21:22 |
| eandersson | that way you can see what is going on in real-time | 21:22 |
| shailendra | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127240/ | 21:23 |
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| shailendra | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127240/ see it | 21:25 |
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| eandersson | nothing really wrong with the logs unforunately | 21:25 |
| shailendra | i think same | 21:26 |
| shailendra | but what is the reason that neutron-server cant start | 21:26 |
| eandersson | you sure it isn't running? | 21:26 |
| eandersson | ps aux | grep neutron-server | 21:26 |
| shailendra | yes | 21:26 |
| eandersson | if it isn't logging at all it is probably a permission issue | 21:26 |
| eandersson | have you tried running it as root? | 21:27 |
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| eandersson | sudo /etc/init.d/neutron-server start | 21:27 |
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| shailendra | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127246/ | 21:28 |
| shailendra | i m already root user | 21:28 |
| eandersson | what OS are you running? | 21:28 |
| eandersson | *distro | 21:28 |
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| shailendra | centos | 21:28 |
| shailendra | red hat | 21:28 |
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| shailendra | ok tell me for which file i need to set permisson | 21:31 |
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| MentalRay | Quick question for people who has used DVR and Floating IPs in Juno yet: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/52312/floating-ip-problem-under-juno-dvr/ | 21:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MentalRay: howdy | 22:31 |
| MentalRay | Hello | 22:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think i've seen something like this, but i havent had much time to mess with dvr. however, i know someone who has and will send them your question. | 22:31 |
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| MentalRay | Ok. Would really appreciate it. Base on what you saw, was it a bug in juno or misconfiguration? | 22:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kind of seemed like a bug | 22:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but i think this guy figured it out | 22:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you using tunnels? | 22:34 |
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| MentalRay | Public its flat and Private is Vxlan if Im not mistaken. My network guy is AFAK | 22:39 |
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| MentalRay | he should be back fairly soon | 22:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you using l2pop? | 22:41 |
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| MentalRay | Yes | 22:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | what version of ovs? | 22:42 |
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| MentalRay | 2.1.3 | 22:44 |
| gaud | look at the end of https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/52312/floating-ip-problem-under-juno-dvr/ I added the ml2_conf.ini | 22:45 |
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| * Sam-I-Am looks | 22:48 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | whats your general architecture look like in terms of nodes? | 22:48 |
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| gaud | for this test, we disabled all the other node, so net1, compute1 and compute2 | 22:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats on the net node? | 22:50 |
| gaud | net1 runs neutron-server, l3, ovs.. | 22:50 |
| gaud | compute node runs l3 , ovs | 22:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so the net box l3 agent handles... external connectivity? | 22:50 |
| gaud | it does dvr_snat , so yes | 22:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | two dhcp agents? | 22:51 |
| gaud | the dhcp/metadata doesn't seem to have a problem.. I set that to 2 for when I had net2 up as well.. | 22:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the config looks like it should work | 22:53 |
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| X123 | Hello | 22:54 |
| X123 | Sam-I-Am :) | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | hi | 22:54 |
| gaud | Sam-I-Am, X123 is The network engineer | 22:54 |
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| X123 | any insights onto our problem? | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | gaud: how did you get ovs 2.1? | 22:54 |
| gaud | centos7 | 22:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i didnt think it came with 2.1 | 22:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know theres an issue with l2pop and vxlan on certain earlier versions of ovs | 22:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm curious if this issue happens with gre | 22:55 |
| gaud | Sam-I-Am it comes from repo openstack-juno | 22:55 |
| X123 | yes but that should have nothing to do with floating ip | 22:55 |
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| gaud | RDO | 22:56 |
| X123 | OVS has no influence over FIP namespace | 22:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | true | 22:56 |
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| X123 | the problem we are seeing is | 22:56 |
| X123 | a routing entry gets created in FIP namespace on ALL compute nodes | 22:56 |
| X123 | when a FIP is associated with a VM on one compute node | 22:56 |
| X123 | so it adds an entry like ip route add 5.5.5.5 via 169.254.2.2 | 22:57 |
| X123 | to the fip namespace | 22:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | when i saw 'arp' my brain went to l2pop since thats been an issue in the past | 22:57 |
| X123 | yeah but that's only inside vxlan | 22:57 |
| X123 | our external net is flat | 22:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 22:57 |
| X123 | hooked to a vlan interface on the compute node | 22:57 |
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| X123 | so the problem is proxy arp | 22:57 |
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| X123 | when you add a static route in the fip namespace, since proxy arp is enabled | 22:57 |
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| X123 | it responds | 22:57 |
| X123 | it ALSO ADDS the IPs to the qrouter namespace as ip alias | 22:58 |
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| X123 | so if you exec 'ip addr show' inside the qrouter namespace | 22:58 |
| X123 | it shows the IPs of VMs that are not on that compute node | 22:58 |
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| X123 | it's definitely a bug as this is not proper operation | 22:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | how did you put this config together? | 22:58 |
| gaud | I did manual installation | 22:58 |
| X123 | just trying to find the bug is proving difficult | 22:58 |
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| X123 | Happy to upload any config files, sans security credentials of course | 22:59 |
| gaud | X123, I added already a bunch in https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/52312/floating-ip-problem-under-juno-dvr/ | 23:00 |
| eth2 | hi gaud/x123 | 23:00 |
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| X123 | hi :) | 23:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | gaud: what resource provided the dvr config? iirc, there's no real definitive "this works" config yet | 23:01 |
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| X123 | I don't think there's a real definitive 'this works' of anything in openstack.. | 23:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | haha | 23:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, as the author of the install guide... we eventually settle on a config that's fairly solid. | 23:02 |
| gaud | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/HowTo | 23:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, dvr/l3ha hasnt made it into the install guide yet | 23:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | nor the admin guide | 23:03 |
| * Sam-I-Am is overworked | 23:03 | |
| Sam-I-Am | we do take contributions though :) | 23:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | gaud: thats kind of what i figured | 23:03 |
| gaud | its the only ressource I found | 23:03 |
| X123 | yeah l3ha is next on our list | 23:03 |
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| gaud | I also tried l3_ha but got no luck.. | 23:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | so, i notified our resident dvr/l3ha guy and also one of the neutron developers working on the networking guide with me | 23:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're the first installation of dvr... so this is interesting. | 23:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least the first one outside of my lab | 23:05 |
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| X123 | yeah i'm also completely confused as to why the DVR needs to have an ip address per comute node | 23:05 |
| X123 | you don't have to have an IP to generate an arp response.. | 23:06 |
| X123 | with ipv4 exhaustion coming close wasting hundreds/thousands of ips isn't fun | 23:06 |
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| X123 | It would be way better if everything was in OVS | 23:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you install conntrack and ipset on these boxes? | 23:07 |
| X123 | we noticed we had to install the conntrack tools | 23:07 |
| X123 | baffled why it wasn't a dependency! | 23:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | y... yeah. | 23:07 |
| X123 | ipset i don't believe we have installed that | 23:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | it kind of works without it, and kind of just does something weird. | 23:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | ipset is a dep now | 23:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | it wasnt for a while | 23:08 |
| X123 | well it didn't work at all without the conntrack utils | 23:08 |
| X123 | it stopped half way through the script so the fip namespace got created but never populated | 23:08 |
| gaud | yes, conntrack and ipset is installed. | 23:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | shouldnt be related to this issue, but would increase performance of secgroups | 23:08 |
| X123 | yeah, ipset is very nice | 23:08 |
| X123 | but realistically all security groups should be in OVS | 23:09 |
| X123 | iptables is.. horrid | 23:09 |
| X123 | for performance | 23:09 |
| X123 | i digress though this is another topic :) | 23:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | haha | 23:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | preaching to the choir | 23:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | imho, neutron should do a couple of simple things well and then leave it up to actual network hardware. | 23:09 |
| X123 | once we get network hardware that can do it.. yes :) | 23:10 |
| X123 | basically a NIC that replaces OVS | 23:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres a lot of people running provider networks with openstack, but it prevents a lot of network administration by tenants | 23:10 |
| X123 | vm interfaces directly attached to this nic | 23:10 |
| X123 | hardware on the NIC does the forwarding | 23:10 |
| X123 | eventually :) | 23:10 |
| X123 | there were some candidates for this at the convention in atlanta | 23:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seems you like ovs | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | in large deployments it seems to have all sorts of issues | 23:11 |
| X123 | i want a real hardware switch/router inside each compute node | 23:11 |
| X123 | on a pci card | 23:11 |
| X123 | that's what i was referring to :) | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | there are some nics with vxlan offload now | 23:11 |
| gaud | Sam-I-Am: any experience with contrail? | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | and switches that do vteps | 23:12 |
| X123 | yeah | 23:12 |
| X123 | which is great, but they are still limited | 23:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | gaud: nope. i used to do a lot of brocade stuff and messed with their neutron integration. | 23:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: have you looked through the neutron bugs? | 23:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365476 | 23:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | definitely some issues out there | 23:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | although that particular one is l3ha | 23:14 |
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| X123 | yeah i've got a headache from looking through the bugs | 23:15 |
| X123 | need to invest some stock in RAID | 23:15 |
| X123 | bug killer | 23:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lol | 23:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | just join the neutron dev group :) | 23:16 |
| MentalRay | how we would go about doing this? | 23:17 |
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| MentalRay | We have another Juno setup ready in the labs | 23:18 |
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| X123 | i'm not a dev :/ | 23:18 |
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| X123 | network engineer | 23:18 |
| MentalRay | and we will try to reproduce this issue | 23:18 |
| X123 | but i have the best ideas! | 23:18 |
| MentalRay | again | 23:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's a lot of you from the same place in here :) | 23:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | X123: so... now you know the problem with neutron :/ | 23:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | network engineers who actually do networking generally arent devs | 23:19 |
| X123 | i knew the problem with neutron before it was named neutron :) | 23:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | haha | 23:19 |
| X123 | DVR is a step in the right direction | 23:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the sessions at the last summit made my head spin | 23:19 |
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| X123 | yeah I was there | 23:19 |
| X123 | i gave them a piece of my mind too lol | 23:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, it is... but pretty much experimental for juno | 23:19 |
| X123 | it doesn't say it's experimental... | 23:20 |
| X123 | I wanted to use opencontrail | 23:20 |
| X123 | but boy is that a huge mess | 23:20 |
| X123 | that's like opening an entire new can of worms | 23:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | it doesn't say it, but thats the impression i get from the devs | 23:20 |
| X123 | the SDN component works great, i mean mpls l3vpn , BGP etc | 23:20 |
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| X123 | normal network stuff no problem | 23:20 |
| X123 | integrating that with opentack............ | 23:20 |
| X123 | problem.. | 23:20 |
| X123 | openhack* | 23:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | those neutron sessions seemed to go like this... "lets add tons of odds-and-end features without actually fixing the important core problems like redundancy" | 23:21 |
| X123 | yeah forget the features | 23:21 |
| X123 | just make basic netowrking and security work.. | 23:21 |
| X123 | i can always spawn a VM and run a load balancer on it | 23:21 |
| X123 | or a FW | 23:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | well there's always nova-net :) | 23:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | just dont look too deeply at how that works either | 23:21 |
| X123 | and all the issues that come with using that :) | 23:22 |
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| X123 | with linuxbridge | 23:22 |
| X123 | like i said, opencontrail :) | 23:22 |
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| X123 | if it was only not such a nightmare | 23:22 |
| X123 | is perfect idea | 23:22 |
| MentalRay | Sam-I-Am, you will be in Paris? | 23:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron + linuxbridge is actually decent | 23:23 |
| X123 | only reason i'm holding out for ovs is for openflow | 23:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | MentalRay: naw... | 23:23 |
| X123 | hoping , eventually, all the security groups and everything will be in that | 23:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | decided to skip this one | 23:23 |
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| MentalRay | same here hehe | 23:23 |
| X123 | right now it's such a hack making tap ports and shunting the traffic into a namespace for security then back to ovs | 23:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | kind of sucks that dvr doesnt work on linuxbridge, but l3ha does | 23:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, cuz of the iptables thing | 23:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | which isnt a problem on linuxbridge | 23:24 |
| X123 | yeah but when it shunts traffic | 23:24 |
| X123 | it uses the linux routing table | 23:24 |
| X123 | route cache | 23:24 |
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| X123 | conntrack | 23:24 |
| X123 | etc etc | 23:24 |
| X123 | which is all insanely inefficient | 23:24 |
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| X123 | would be more efficient to make a userspace program and use libzero/dma type mechanics to copy packets to it | 23:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | doing things with linux that it was never meant to do | 23:25 |
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| X123 | oh linux was meant to do it :) | 23:25 |
| X123 | that's why it's so flexible | 23:25 |
| X123 | the performance is just horrid | 23:25 |
| X123 | that's the tradeoff i suppose | 23:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think we'll see sdn-on-a-card become common at some point | 23:26 |
| X123 | that would be.. cumulus networks :) | 23:26 |
| X123 | run linux to control commodity switching hardware lol | 23:27 |
| X123 | like arista does, but just it would control a PCI card in the machine | 23:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i'm guessing this is a POC and y'all already run production openstack somewhere? | 23:27 |
| X123 | sort of | 23:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont recognize the nicks... not many neutron folks hang out in here. | 23:28 |
| X123 | I don't use IRC :) | 23:28 |
| X123 | this is first time I have been on IRC in over 10 maybe 15 yrs | 23:28 |
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| MentalRay | you do now :p | 23:28 |
| MentalRay | lol | 23:28 |
| X123 | haha | 23:28 |
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| gaud | Sam-I-Am: we are working on getting X123 on irc since a month :) | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | haha | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | irc is good for you | 23:29 |
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| X123 | yeah yeah they bug me for a month to come on here | 23:29 |
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| MentalRay | we had to send an emissary to his place to convince him of connecting to irc | 23:30 |
| MentalRay | :p | 23:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | how do you use neutron now? | 23:31 |
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| X123 | now? | 23:36 |
| X123 | the way the juno install guide said to set it up :) | 23:36 |
| X123 | it's using ml2, l2pop, ovs | 23:36 |
| X123 | vxlan tenant networks and flat for external | 23:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i mean... prior to dvr? | 23:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the install guide hasnt gone to vxlan yet because its still broken on a lot of kernels (particularly pre-3.13) | 23:39 |
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| Xer0_ | Evening! | 23:39 |
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| Xer0_ | I'm having trouble launching an instance from a volume using the API. It's possible using the nova CLI tools, but not documented in the API docs it seems. | 23:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm particularly concerned about rhel/centos 7 | 23:40 |
| X123 | we were using vxlan in icehouse | 23:40 |
| X123 | with ml2/l2pop | 23:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | on cent? | 23:40 |
| X123 | and havana with opencontrail | 23:40 |
| X123 | yes | 23:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | interesting. seems like one of those "ymmv" things. | 23:41 |
| X123 | That seems to be the status quo with openstack.. "YMMV" | 23:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, but overall its pretty solid... except maybe some of the networking bits | 23:41 |
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| X123 | well, KVM is pretty solid | 23:42 |
| X123 | but we've had some just painful bugs with things like glance, the web ui etc | 23:42 |
| X123 | not even talking about neutron :P | 23:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | keystone, nova, and swift are pretty solid. | 23:42 |
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| X123 | ok that's a much more accurate statement :) | 23:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | glance causes me plenty of pain, but more from a documentation standpoint than anything | 23:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heat is alright, but also not super complex | 23:43 |
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| X123 | I got so frustrated at the webui, decided never to use it again | 23:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | horizon? | 23:44 |
| X123 | yesss | 23:44 |
| X123 | and these UUIDs take some getting used to | 23:44 |
| X123 | i'm used to seeing like.. route target ids, bgp community strings etc | 23:44 |
| X123 | not this huge mess of 0923jf32-f23f3j2f-23jf-23jf-23 to reference a port or network | 23:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | to me, horizon seems like a POC of "heres how you make a web interface to interact with the APIs... but for production, you probably want to customize the hell out of it" | 23:44 |
| X123 | takes some getting used to | 23:44 |
| X123 | ovsdb is just.. /rofl | 23:45 |
| X123 | like they expect network engineers to be progammes :) | 23:45 |
| X123 | programmers* | 23:45 |
| MentalRay | I expect that lol :p | 23:46 |
| MentalRay | I dint tell you yet but we are sending you 10 books on how to learn Python | 23:46 |
| MentalRay | :p | 23:46 |
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| gaud | and those ovs/namespace getting out of sync.. | 23:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes, program your network | 23:46 |
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| X123 | i already program all my routers/switches etc | 23:47 |
| X123 | if u want to call it that :) | 23:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | right :) | 23:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | X123: how does your icehouse install work? | 23:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no dvr, of course. | 23:53 |
| X123 | yeah no dvr | 23:53 |
| X123 | using flat external network | 23:53 |
| X123 | so VM direct attach to that | 23:53 |
| X123 | traffic doesn't go through net node | 23:53 |
| X123 | VM has public ip direct on interface | 23:53 |
| X123 | vxlan for tenant network | 23:54 |
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| X123 | it works fine but there's no IPAM | 23:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool. seems like a lot of folks like that method... if you dont mind tenant networks not being tenant-configurable. | 23:54 |
| X123 | well the tenant private networks are | 23:54 |
| X123 | just not external | 23:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they can attach vms to the external network, but cant manage the external networks, right? | 23:55 |
| X123 | right | 23:55 |
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| X123 | the problem with that is | 23:55 |
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| X123 | if they destroy a vm and recreate it | 23:55 |
| X123 | they get a new ip | 23:55 |
| X123 | and there's no way to give them the old ip | 23:56 |
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| X123 | what if they just wanted to reinstall their VM | 23:56 |
| X123 | and use the same public ip they had before | 23:56 |
| X123 | they can't | 23:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think thats the case for floating IPs | 23:56 |
| gaud | all the benefits of floating ip.. | 23:56 |
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| X123 | floating ips are assigned to the tenant | 23:56 |
| X123 | not the VM | 23:56 |
| X123 | so if they destroy a VM they can move the floating ip to another | 23:56 |
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| X123 | i mean it's just software | 23:57 |
| X123 | it's nothing really stopping them from doing it | 23:57 |
| X123 | but it would have to be programmed into the flat external network | 23:57 |
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| X123 | and into openstack ui/ipam etc | 23:57 |
| X123 | and it isn't :) | 23:57 |
| X123 | it's just a matter of programming | 23:57 |
| X123 | but isn't it always.. | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think the 'cloud thing' expects some sort of VIP to handle actual IPs and then your VMs may or may not exist behind it | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | hw or sw load balancer | 23:58 |
| Xer0_ | Hi aimon | 23:58 |
| X123 | well we are trying to get as much functionality out of the openstack services as we can | 23:58 |
| X123 | because if we modify too much, and a new openstack release comes out | 23:58 |
| X123 | it will be a hugeee pain to upgrade | 23:58 |
| gaud | especially with all the crazy idea MentalRay has.. ;p | 23:59 |
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