| minerpools | as it was a test server | 00:00 |
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| minerpools | like I said | 00:00 |
| minerpools | TEST | 00:00 |
| minerpools | I needed to see if it was usable or not | 00:00 |
| minerpools | it's not | 00:00 |
| SamYaple | not for databases | 00:00 |
| minerpools | oh really? | 00:00 |
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| minerpools | well, so long for that btrfs being the next main linux filesystem | 00:00 |
| minerpools | ext4 is slow, we all know that, but it's stable | 00:01 |
| minerpools | it's really stable | 00:01 |
| minerpools | so is jfs | 00:01 |
| minerpools | reiser had a really nice future but... | 00:01 |
| SamYaple | The core BTRFS features are stable. It is as simple as that. | 00:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | it kills your files | 00:01 |
| minerpools | haha | 00:02 |
| minerpools | yeah, reiser kills | 00:02 |
| minerpools | SamYaple | 00:02 |
| minerpools | in case you don't know | 00:02 |
| minerpools | http://www.percona.com/blog/2012/05/22/btrfs-probably-not-ready-yet/ | 00:02 |
| minerpools | people have been testing btrfs for years | 00:02 |
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| SamYaple | FROM 2012 | 00:02 |
| minerpools | I have too | 00:02 |
| SamYaple | good god dude | 00:02 |
| minerpools | read | 00:02 |
| minerpools | the article | 00:02 |
| minerpools | before you say anything | 00:02 |
| minerpools | It doesn't mention it breaks or anyting | 00:02 |
| minerpools | he didn't break it | 00:03 |
| minerpools | he just tested speed | 00:03 |
| SamYaple | from 2012... | 00:03 |
| minerpools | btrfs is way faster now | 00:03 |
| minerpools | much faster than ext4 | 00:03 |
| minerpools | but since you dont READ | 00:03 |
| minerpools | Disabling cow for mysql breaks it | 00:03 |
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| minerpools | like it or not it does | 00:03 |
| minerpools | with cow it works | 00:03 |
| minerpools | but performance degrades over a very short time | 00:03 |
| minerpools | btw, lzo is a really nice feature taken from reiser4 ;) | 00:04 |
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| minerpools | and actually: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MySQL | 00:04 |
| hachque_ | just to make sure i'm not misunderstanding, a "node" in openstack is a virtual machine living on the host right? and not a physically seperate machine? | 00:05 |
| minerpools | the archlinux wiki mentions disabling cow for mysql | 00:05 |
| minerpools | bad idea | 00:05 |
| SamYaple | No problem minerpools. I will keep using it, you will keep not using it.If you want to discuss the pros and cons we can, but we arent.. | 00:05 |
| minerpools | well, all I'm saying is | 00:05 |
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| minerpools | there's issues when disabling COW | 00:05 |
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| SamYaple | Which is what BTRFS. COW. I get there might be bugs | 00:06 |
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| SamYaple | But what is the issue with it when you dont use your DB server on it? | 00:06 |
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| SamYaple | Just to clarify, i get there might be bugs when disabling the core feature of the FS, COW | 00:06 |
| minerpools | .... | 00:07 |
| minerpools | you clearly don't know anything about the way mysql works | 00:07 |
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| hachque_ | oh okay, apparently node does mean physically seperate machines | 00:09 |
| hachque_ | but i can just install all the roles on a single machine | 00:09 |
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| SamYaple | Listen. This isn't about mysql. This is about btrfs. It is production ready for *some* workloads. There are some workloads it is not ready for. | 00:09 |
| SamYaple | People also tend to forget this is kernel code. Youll need a new kernel to use stable btrfs. | 00:10 |
| SamYaple | 3.15+ is the lowest I would recommend. | 00:10 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: Sorry we hijacked the thread for a minute. A node does refer to a machine, not always physical (think vm) | 00:11 |
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| SamYaple | You can install all services on a single "node" | 00:11 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: i guess the question is if the compute node is in a VM, how can it allocate more VMs inside it? virtualization doesn't nest like that | 00:12 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: In fact, KVM has supported nexted virtualization for some time | 00:12 |
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| hachque_ | wait really o___o | 00:12 |
| hachque_ | huh | 00:12 |
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| hachque_ | well that's cool | 00:13 |
| hachque_ | :P | 00:13 |
| SamYaple | but even if it didn't it you can use pure qemu which is all software and slow | 00:13 |
| SamYaple | You can check the host to see if you have it enabled | 00:13 |
| minerpools | SamYaple I tested with 3.16 | 00:13 |
| SamYaple | `cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested` | 00:13 |
| minerpools | I don't use ubuntu or anything like that | 00:14 |
| minerpools | Btrfs is broken even after 6 years in development | 00:14 |
| minerpools | it's a failure man, I've never seen a filesystem take so long to become usable | 00:14 |
| minerpools | I was there when JFS 1 and JFS 2 launched | 00:14 |
| minerpools | I was there when Xfs launched | 00:14 |
| minerpools | I was there when ext3 and ext4 launcheed | 00:15 |
| hachque_ | SamYaple: oh the host machine does support it :P | 00:15 |
| minerpools | same for reiser* | 00:15 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: if you dont and want to try nested, youll need to provide the option "nested=1" to kvm-intel | 00:15 |
| minerpools | none of them were as buggy after so long | 00:15 |
| SamYaple | ok cool | 00:15 |
| hachque_ | so i can just whack a bunch of VMs for openstack nodes inside libvirt | 00:15 |
| hachque_ | and manage it from there | 00:15 |
| SamYaple | minerpools: sorry for continuing this, this isn't the thread for this. I will be happy to talk with you more in a PM or general channel | 00:16 |
| hachque_ | that sounds like the best idea | 00:16 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: I do that mysql | 00:16 |
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| SamYaple | myself* | 00:16 |
| SamYaple | autotype ;) | 00:16 |
| minerpools | no worries mate, I don't use it. | 00:16 |
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| minerpools | Don't need it, I'd have loved to use it | 00:16 |
| hachque_ | yeah well I just ran out of disk space on / trying to install openstack on the host | 00:17 |
| hachque_ | so i'm pretty much going to have to run openstack as nested VMs | 00:17 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: 0.o | 00:17 |
| SamYaple | if you have no disk space, how do VMs fix that? | 00:17 |
| hachque_ | (the host root sits on a USB because all the hard drive slots are taking up by a 5 disk ZFS RAID) | 00:17 |
| hachque_ | i can put the VM images on the ZFS area | 00:17 |
| hachque_ | which is 8TB of disk space :D | 00:17 |
| SamYaple | Ah sweet | 00:18 |
| SamYaple | Yup sounds good | 00:18 |
| hachque_ | booting linux on ZFS itself though isnt well supported, hence the USB drive for root | 00:18 |
| SamYaple | Yea and unfortunately it will never change due to ZFS licensing. Unless massive work is done to relicense the project it cant ship with the kernel | 00:19 |
| hachque_ | yeah :( | 00:19 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: You know what COW filesystem is baked into the kernel? | 00:20 |
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| SamYaple | im kidding, lets not go down this road again ;) | 00:20 |
| hachque_ | haha | 00:20 |
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| hachque_ | gah, everyone has scripts for setting up openstack on a single node | 01:15 |
| hachque_ | but i absolutely can not find documentation on what I need to install first | 01:15 |
| hachque_ | *install first to configure this stuff manually | 01:16 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: docs.openstack.org | 01:32 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: yeah i've been looking at that | 02:07 |
| hachque_ | but all the documentation indicates 2 or 3 node setups | 02:07 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: Yea you can follow those instructions all on a single node | 02:14 |
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| SamYaple | I dont know of any "single node" manual install guide, but one of those multi-guides on one node works just fine | 02:15 |
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| jasonsb | any good documents for showing how to use multiple floating ip's for a single instance? | 04:20 |
| jasonsb | would like 1 floating for provider network a and 1 floating for provider network b (where one of these is standard ext-net scenario) | 04:20 |
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| Rajbir | Hi All, | 04:27 |
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| Rajbir | I'm trying to create a snapshot for a instance using nova image-create command and it's does showing in GUI that the image has been created but when I look at /var/lib/glance/images there is no image found for the new snapshot | 04:28 |
| Rajbir | any ideas ? | 04:28 |
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| jasonsb | does glance image-list show it? | 04:30 |
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| jasonsb | it takes some time for those to create | 04:30 |
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| Rajbir | a moment. | 04:31 |
| Rajbir | yes, it does shows up in glance image-list and nova image-list but the problem is it doesn't store the image file in /var/lib/glance/images and hence it's not downloading | 04:32 |
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| Rajbir | any ideas ? | 04:42 |
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| Rajbir | Further to add the created image is of size 0 | 04:46 |
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| jasonsb | Rajbir: does it show complete or in progress? | 04:51 |
| Rajbir | it shows complete | 04:51 |
| Rajbir | i have also tried nova image-create instance-id "snapshot name" --poll and it's showing 100% complete | 04:52 |
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| jasonsb | i wonder if its a permissions issue or similar | 04:54 |
| jasonsb | maybe check /var/log/glance | 04:54 |
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| Rajbir | Jasonsb :: do you mean /var/log/glance/api.log ? | 04:55 |
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| jasonsb | and also make sure you have the value set for filesystem_store_datadir that you expect | 04:56 |
| jasonsb | yes api.log | 04:56 |
| jasonsb | i should think an error would show up there if the final move failed | 04:56 |
| Rajbir | okay, let me check | 04:57 |
| jasonsb | also check for filesystem_store_datadirs | 04:57 |
| jasonsb | maybe you have something defined there | 04:57 |
| Rajbir | in which file I need to look for filesystem_store_datadirs | 04:57 |
| jasonsb | (i'm assuming you aren't swift environment) | 04:57 |
| Rajbir | well, it's a old setup running on grizzly | 04:58 |
| jasonsb | in /etc/glance/glance-api.conf | 04:58 |
| jasonsb | oh, i gave you configs from icehouse | 04:58 |
| jasonsb | so maybe yours is a little bit different | 04:59 |
| Rajbir | Yep | 04:59 |
| Rajbir | and hard for find solutions as well :( | 04:59 |
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| jasonsb | do a tail -f on registry.log and api.log and hit the nova image-create again | 05:00 |
| Rajbir | filesystem_store_datadir = /var/lib/glance/images/ | 05:00 |
| jasonsb | looks legit | 05:01 |
| jasonsb | make sure you have enough disk space | 05:01 |
| jasonsb | dont' want something filling up and crashing the thing | 05:01 |
| Rajbir | yeah I have enough disk space . | 05:01 |
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| Rajbir | I've around 1.5T free available on controller node | 05:02 |
| Rajbir | So, storage should not be a issue | 05:02 |
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| Rajbir | Successfully retrieved image at end in registry.log | 05:07 |
| krypto | hello all,is there any plan to add vxlan support to nova-network | 05:07 |
| Rajbir | and no errors in api.log as well. | 05:08 |
| Rajbir | also compute nodes does have enough free space as well | 05:09 |
| jasonsb | Rajbir: i'm sorry, i don't know. all i can think of is to turn debug on | 05:09 |
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| jasonsb | Rajbir: i was hoping there would be a smoking gun someplace | 05:10 |
| Rajbir | No problem Jasonsb, thanks for looking into this for me :) | 05:10 |
| Rajbir | How can I enable degub mode ? | 05:11 |
| Rajbir | sorry but I'm just in learning phase | 05:11 |
| Rajbir | debug * | 05:11 |
| SamYaple | Rajbir: configs have debug =; verbose = | 05:12 |
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| Rajbir | glance.conf right ? | 05:13 |
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| SamYaple | glance-api.conf and glance-registry.conf | 05:15 |
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| Rajbir | thanks, I'll try that . | 05:24 |
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| hachque_ | i'm trying to get glance to work (i'm at the verify operation step of the documentation) | 05:53 |
| hachque_ | however the token failed to authenticate | 05:53 |
| hachque_ | when i check the glance logs, I can see it's trying to establish a HTTPS connection | 05:53 |
| hachque_ | and getting back "error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol" | 05:53 |
| hachque_ | my keystone server isn't running SSL | 05:53 |
| hachque_ | and the URIs in the glance configuration are "http://" | 05:53 |
| hachque_ | so i'm not sure why it's trying to use SSL | 05:54 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: can you post your glance-*.conf and keystone.conf files to paste.openstack.org? | 05:58 |
| hachque_ | sure | 05:58 |
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| hachque_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/137212/ | 05:59 |
| hachque_ | keystone.conf | 05:59 |
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| hachque_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/137213/ glance-api.conf | 06:00 |
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| hachque_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/137214/ glance-registry.conf | 06:00 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: which version of openstack are you running? | 06:01 |
| hachque_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/137215/ glance api.log | 06:01 |
| hachque_ | 2013.2 according to zypper | 06:02 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: the identity_uri was only added in juno | 06:03 |
| hachque_ | oh so i need to upgrade | 06:03 |
| SamYaple | or specify different options in glance | 06:03 |
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| SamYaple | use auth_host, auth_port, auth_protocol instead of identity_uri | 06:04 |
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| hachque_ | i'll just upgrade to juno given that i haven't configured anything yet really | 06:05 |
| SamYaple | You are running havana, but the keystone_authtoken section of icehouse is still valid http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/section_glance-api.conf.html | 06:05 |
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| SamYaple | Or that too | 06:05 |
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| hachque_ | probably easier to upgrade while i only have keystone and glance set up | 06:05 |
| hachque_ | rather than later :P | 06:05 |
| SamYaple | What distro | 06:06 |
| hachque_ | opensuse | 06:06 |
| hachque_ | i just added the Juno repo then and upgraded keystone | 06:06 |
| SamYaple | oh right. you said that earier | 06:06 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: can I remove the sql_connection option from Glance under Juno | 06:08 |
| hachque_ | given that there's already [database] connection there? | 06:08 |
| SamYaple | indeed | 06:08 |
| hachque_ | cool | 06:08 |
| SamYaple | it is a deprecated config option since havana I believe | 06:09 |
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| hachque_ | well i upgraded, restarted the daemons | 06:09 |
| hachque_ | and now glance works :) | 06:09 |
| SamYaple | \o/ | 06:10 |
| nikil22 | hi in multinode enviromnment is it requird to install neutron-l3 agent? in other compute nodes | 06:10 |
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| SamYaple | nikil22: neutron-l3 is only required on nodes hostsing a router, so your "network" nodes only | 06:10 |
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| hachque_ | also a random question, in a multinode environment for glance, you'd use cinder as the backing store so that it could scale the storage right? | 06:11 |
| hachque_ | (if you had multiple glance nodes) | 06:11 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: you can use swift, nfs, cinder, ceph, etc | 06:12 |
| SamYaple | there are lots of drivers | 06:12 |
| hachque_ | cool | 06:12 |
| hachque_ | time to set up compute :D | 06:12 |
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| SamYaple | you can even use "file" as a backing in juno since now nova can search multiple glance nodes for the file | 06:12 |
| SamYaple | do as long as you had the image on 2+ glance nodes, it would be highly avaiable all with no loadbalancer | 06:13 |
| SamYaple | dont recommend it though | 06:13 |
| hachque_ | well presumably in a real environment you'd be using cinder as the S3 equivalent anyway | 06:13 |
| hachque_ | so you'd probably already have that set up and available for distributed storage | 06:14 |
| SamYaple | those words... they go together poorly | 06:14 |
| SamYaple | swift ~= s3 | 06:14 |
| SamYaple | cinder is block storage | 06:14 |
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| hachque_ | oh derp | 06:14 |
| SamYaple | you dont need either to have a production grade openstack install | 06:15 |
| hachque_ | replace "cinder" with "swift" in everything i've just been saying then :P | 06:15 |
| SamYaple | that all makes more sense then | 06:15 |
| nikil22 | @SamYaple ok. And neutron-server also required only in network nodes? | 06:15 |
| hachque_ | yeah i derped reading the package descriptions when running "zypper se openstack" :P | 06:16 |
| SamYaple | still, neither cinder or swift is needed to have a massively scalable deployment | 06:16 |
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| SamYaple | nikil22: neutron-server is your api, so that would belong on your "controller" nodes | 06:16 |
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| SamYaple | nikil22: but you can run any of these services on any node. they are dependant on each other being on the same machine | 06:16 |
| SamYaple | they arent* dependant on each other being on the same machine | 06:17 |
| nikil22 | @Samyaple thanks. In multinode environment when i schedule to launch a VM it gives error "http://paste.openstack.org/show/137221/". If you get any idea from this log please let me know | 06:21 |
| nikil22 | i have 1 controller node and 2 compute node | 06:21 |
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| SamYaple | nikil22: thats a config issue | 06:24 |
| SamYaple | if you want, post your neutron configs (and plugins), as well as the output of `ovs-vsctl show` on all of your nodes | 06:24 |
| SamYaple | really, just make sure your bridges are setup correctly and everything is checking it | 06:25 |
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| nikil22 | @samyaple "neutron.conf " > http://paste.openstack.org/show/137235/ | 06:32 |
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| nikil22 | @SamYaple ovs-vsctl show > "http://paste.openstack.org/show/137229/" | 06:32 |
| SamYaple | nikil22: what about your other neutron configs? at the very least your ml2.conf | 06:34 |
| nikil22 | @SamYaple this is controller node. ok let me check for other 2 computer nodes | 06:34 |
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| nikil22 | @SamYaple compute node 192.168.124.83 : http://paste.openstack.org/show/137236/ http://paste.openstack.org/show/137237/ | 06:42 |
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| nikil22 | @SamYaple ml2.conf in controller node : http://paste.openstack.org/show/137238/ | 06:43 |
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| SamYaple | nikil22: Are you trying to use OVS or linuxbridge? | 06:44 |
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| nikil22 | @SamYaple actually i used suse admin server to deploy the openstack multinode . Iam not sure what it uses by default | 06:45 |
| nikil22 | using crowbar | 06:45 |
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| SamYaple | nikil22: which version of openstack? | 06:45 |
| nikil22 | @samyaple now i saw in crowbar UI its openvswitch plugin | 06:46 |
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| SamYaple | still the same question, which version are you deploy? | 06:47 |
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| nikil22 | @Samyaple nova --version (2.17.0) neutron --version (2.3.5) | 06:48 |
| nikil22 | i guess its juno | 06:48 |
| SamYaple | ok. your ml2 conf is incorrect | 06:48 |
| SamYaple | youll need to fix it | 06:49 |
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| nikil22 | SamYaple : I don't see any version number in ml2 | 06:50 |
| nikil22 | what kind of detils i have to debug so that i can try to change few things and test | 06:51 |
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| SamYaple | your ml2_conf.ini isn't even filled in. You need to set it up for OVS. you can use verbose and debug in neutron.conf, but i dont know how muc hthat will help | 06:52 |
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| nikil22 | @samYaple thanks . I will check for OVS setup config | 06:53 |
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| SamYaple | http://docs.openstack.org/juno/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-openvswitch_agent.html | 06:54 |
| SamYaple | http://docs.openstack.org/juno/config-reference/content/networking-options-plugins-ml2.html | 06:54 |
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| SamYaple | those two should help | 06:54 |
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| oliver23 | i have booted an instance with two nics, both have ip addresses from 2 different private subnets. Now, the vm has two default gateways, is it possible that i can have only one default gateway ? | 07:07 |
| SamYaple | oliver23: that is a instance level networking question | 07:08 |
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| SamYaple | the instance ill only truly have one default gateway | 07:08 |
| oliver23 | SamYaple: $ ip r s | 07:09 |
| oliver23 | default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth1 | 07:09 |
| oliver23 | default via 10.5.5.1 dev eth0 | 07:09 |
| oliver23 | 10.0.0.0/24 dev eth1 src 10.0.0.5 | 07:09 |
| oliver23 | 10.5.5.0/24 dev eth0 src 10.5.5.2 | 07:09 |
| SamYaple | so if you were to ping an unknown address, wheere will it go out? | 07:09 |
| SamYaple | not both. | 07:09 |
| oliver23 | SamYaple: Nova-network allows you to set a flag use_single_default_gateway=true for this | 07:10 |
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| SamYaple | oliver23: id have to look up how that works but my guess is dnsmasq just isnt giving a default route for the second network | 07:15 |
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| SamYaple | you can handle this inside this instance as well | 07:15 |
| SamYaple | its up to the instance to determine where to send traffic out of | 07:16 |
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| SamYaple | if you want to know your true gateway `cat /proc/net/route` and look for the one with the lowest metric with destination of all 00000000 | 07:17 |
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| SamYaple | pretty sure iproute2 sorts them by that stuff as well, so unknown traffic will only leave `default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth1` in your case | 07:18 |
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| oliver23 | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/137262/ | 07:23 |
| oliver23 | SamYaple: Can i manage this by setting up host routes ? | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | oliver23: so yea, iproute2 is sorting that for you. It will go out eth1 (Gateway is the lowest value) | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | you can. | 07:25 |
| SamYaple | also by tweaking metrics | 07:25 |
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| oliver23 | SamYaple: I want to set up the gateway ip as the ip of my physical router. | 07:26 |
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| oliver23 | SamYaple: So, i want that whatever the ip address is able inside the vm, gateway should always be my exteranl physical router | 07:26 |
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| SamYaple | Well the gateway still has to be reachable on the subnet, so it must be in the 10.0.0.0/24 for dev eth1, or the 10.5.5.0/24 for dev eth0 | 07:26 |
| SamYaple | thats not how networks work | 07:27 |
| oliver23 | SamYaple: right! | 07:27 |
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| SamYaple | youve lost me | 07:28 |
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| hachque_ | where does libvirt store it's volumes when running under nova-compute? | 07:33 |
| hachque_ | is that something I should configure in nova.conf? | 07:33 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: /var/lib/nova/* | 07:33 |
| hachque_ | (i've noticed nova is reporting in it's log that it has Free disk (GB): 3207, and I want to place it somewhere else) | 07:34 |
| hachque_ | should I just symlink that directory to where I want it stored then? | 07:34 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: you can change it in the conf i believe | 07:35 |
| SamYaple | i want to say the option is state-path | 07:35 |
| SamYaple | or just symlink it | 07:35 |
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| SamYaple | the freespace check might not work like expected if you symlink it though | 07:35 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: i already have state_path set to /os-store/nova/state | 07:37 |
| hachque_ | but that doesn't seem to make a difference for the free space check | 07:37 |
| hachque_ | (/os-store is a virtio filesystem pointing to the host machine that is hosting openstack in a VM) | 07:37 |
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| SamYaple | its been a while since ive dug into the code for that to see how it is being generated | 07:40 |
| SamYaple | all the values are pulled from the database which is updated relative to the last update *i believe* | 07:40 |
| hachque_ | it looks like it's storing files in /os-store/nova/state though | 07:40 |
| hachque_ | sweet, all my nova services are running :D | 07:40 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: yay! always a good feeling | 07:41 |
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| hachque_ | now for networking :S | 07:41 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: boo! always a bad feeling | 07:41 |
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| hachque_ | i think my scenario is going to be a bit weird but basically | 07:42 |
| hachque_ | i have a single network that is used for everything; 192.168.1.0/24 | 07:42 |
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| hachque_ | DHCP is allocating on 100-200 for machines outside openstack (i.e. the host machine + other machines in the network) | 07:42 |
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| hachque_ | what i want to do is configure it so that the network that openstack has for it's instances is a bridged network, and allocates IPs between 202 - 253 | 07:43 |
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| hachque_ | i have to go now, be back in an hour or so | 07:44 |
| hachque_ | and then i can work out how to do this networking stuff | 07:44 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: you can do that. easy peasy | 07:47 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: i'm assuming I install both the neutron controller node and network node onto this single machine? | 08:25 |
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| SamYaple | you can yes hachque_ | 08:38 |
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| hachque_ | should I be doing that for the "allocate IPs in external network" setup I want, or is neutron going to virtualize all the networking stuff? | 08:38 |
| hachque_ | basically I want to make sure a computer on the external network can access a guest's port (like SSH) | 08:39 |
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| hachque_ | so for a full overview of what i'm trying to do | 08:40 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: thats going to depend on what type of network you setup in neutron and you security groups (iptables rules on the compute host) | 08:41 |
| hachque_ | VM on linode running the build CI -> internet -> consumer grade router -> host machine -> openstack VM -> compute guest | 08:41 |
| hachque_ | i was kind of pondering whether or not it'd be easier to set up a software VPN so it'd instead be | 08:41 |
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| hachque_ | VM on linode running the build CI -> software VPN -> openstack VM | 08:42 |
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| hachque_ | so that then a virtualized network that the guests live on would look as if it was in the same LAN as the VM on linode | 08:42 |
| hachque_ | then I wouldn't need to worry about that consumer grade router's NAT | 08:42 |
| hachque_ | any suggestion as to which option is least likely to cause networking headaches? | 08:43 |
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| oliver23 | SamYaple: Thank You. | 08:56 |
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| SamYaple | oliver23: youre welcome. did you get it working? | 08:57 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: I would say vlan networks, but thats if you can support it with your config | 08:57 |
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| hachque_ | thanks | 08:58 |
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| oliver23 | SamYaple: Yep ;-) | 08:59 |
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| SamYaple | awesome. congrats! | 09:00 |
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| hachque_ | hmm | 09:02 |
| hachque_ | adding the physical device to openvswitch broke SSH access :/ | 09:02 |
| hachque_ | even though the physical IP address still has an IP of 192.168.1.201 | 09:02 |
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| hachque_ | I can no longer access the SSH daemon | 09:02 |
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| hachque_ | well i did ovs-vsctl del-port and now I can ping again | 09:04 |
| hachque_ | i'm sure this is just me being a complete derp when it comes to networking :P | 09:04 |
| SamYaple | you cant add the device you are using to ovs | 09:05 |
| SamYaple | so if you ssh'd in on eth0, you could add eth1, not eth0 | 09:06 |
| SamYaple | you should really have a "managment" interface and a "data" interface | 09:06 |
| hachque_ | okay, i can add another bridge to the openstack host | 09:06 |
| hachque_ | but out of curiosity, what does openvswitch use the physical device for? | 09:06 |
| SamYaple | bingo | 09:06 |
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| hachque_ | is it only for the compute guests? | 09:07 |
| SamYaple | hachque_: OVS injects raw frames onto the device. You can actually use OVS for bonding instead of the linux kernel because of this | 09:07 |
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| hachque_ | oh | 09:08 |
| hachque_ | so it pretty much takes full, exclusive control of the device | 09:08 |
| hachque_ | so it can support the virtualized networking? | 09:08 |
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| SamYaple | well the "virtualized networking" is really just tunneling and/or vlans. You can do all of that with linux things (linux bridging, linux tunneling, etc) | 09:09 |
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| SamYaple | and its not excusive control since you an tcpdump on the raw device, but you can't add an ip address to it | 09:09 |
| SamYaple | because it will grap the packet from the kernel if my understanding is correct | 09:10 |
| SamYaple | but you get the idea. the device you give to OVS is owned by only OVS | 09:10 |
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| hachque_ | well hmm | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | i added another bridged interface | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | so the openstack machine now has ens3 and ens7 | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | openvswitch has ens7 in it's bridge | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | and ens3 is meant to have an IP address of 192.168.1.201 | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | when I restart networking, 192.168.1.201 is only available for a very short period of time (pinging from another machine) | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | and when I do "ifconfig" i only see br-ex and lo | 09:25 |
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| hachque_ | when i do "ifconfig -a" they all show up | 09:25 |
| hachque_ | but ens3 doesn't have it's IP address | 09:25 |
| _ale_ | hi all - is there a easy way to remove a hyper visor to be allocated more VMs (or limit the amount of memory used on that hyper visor, rather than all memory available to the host) ? | 09:25 |
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| SamYaple | _ale_: you want to limit that allocatatable memory on a hypervisor? Like only allocate %50 of them memory? | 09:30 |
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| _ale_ | SamYaple, yup that's the idea | 09:30 |
| _ale_ | only on some | 09:30 |
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| SamYaple | _ale_: in nova.conf the config option is "ram_allocation_ratio = 0.5" | 09:31 |
| SamYaple | You should be able to set that line per hypervisor | 09:32 |
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| SamYaple | But that may be a scheduler config line, in which case it is not per hypervisor | 09:32 |
| _ale_ | SamYaple, ok - cool - thanks a lot! I'll take a look and try it | 09:33 |
| SamYaple | its been a while since I last checked if that affects the numbers the hypervisor reports back | 09:33 |
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| _ale_ | SamYaple, according to source it's setting it for the scheduler, so for all hypervisors - that's ok though as I just saw the default is 1.5 :\ | 09:37 |
| _ale_ | maybe setting it to 0.95 would just do the trick for us | 09:37 |
| _ale_ | hmmmm may just be a good idea to do that by default :) | 09:38 |
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| SamYaple | _ale_: ive done that before on some boxes that had additional services chewing up some memory | 09:38 |
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| _ale_ | yeah, thats exactly why :) | 09:38 |
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| SamYaple | _ale_: no, with balloon memory its all about overcommiting | 09:38 |
| SamYaple | the cpu overcommit is 16:1 by default :P | 09:38 |
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| _ale_ | SamYaple, yeah i know :) .. not too worried about CPU tho - memory much more so ... atm one of the hosts i swapping | 09:39 |
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| _ale_ | and thats the one using mem for other stuff | 09:39 |
| _ale_ | i'll set it on that host and restart nova and see what happens :) | 09:39 |
| _ale_ | we have a dev stack to test these kinda things on :) *lucky me* | 09:40 |
| SamYaple | as in "devstack" or a stack of dev machines? | 09:40 |
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| _ale_ | a stack of dev machines | 09:40 |
| _ale_ | :) | 09:40 |
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| SamYaple | w00t | 09:41 |
| _ale_ | :) | 09:41 |
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| _ale_ | SamYaple, just saw this: reserved_host_memory_mb=X ... it's at least in JUNO | 09:53 |
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| _ale_ | :) | 09:53 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: got my openstack dashboard running :D | 10:00 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: Youre halfway there! | 10:01 |
| SamYaple | now orchestration and cinder and trove and ceilometer and ... | 10:01 |
| hachque_ | haha | 10:01 |
| hachque_ | i dont need any of those :) | 10:01 |
| hachque_ | the most complex part is going to be working out the VLAN stuff now | 10:02 |
| SamYaple | no one needs ceilometer | 10:02 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | SamYaple, why not needeD? | 10:06 |
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| SamYaple | giorgiodinapoli: it was a joke. The project has some severe problems is all | 10:06 |
| hachque_ | SamYaple: this network topology view is amazing | 10:06 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: isn't it? the best part of Horizon is right there | 10:07 |
| hachque_ | yeah | 10:07 |
| SamYaple | I like to export it to other webpages | 10:07 |
| hachque_ | makes AWS networking look derp | 10:07 |
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| hachque_ | also VNC view :D | 10:07 |
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| hachque_ | although for cirros i'm getting a black screen | 10:08 |
| hachque_ | so i'm not sure if it's working or not | 10:08 |
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| hachque_ | it says connected to QEMU, which i'm assuming is KVM hardware accelerated | 10:08 |
| hachque_ | given that nested acceleration is supported | 10:08 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: its supported if your host has it set and you set your virutalization type to kvm in the confs | 10:09 |
| SamYaple | but it will still say qemu in the end | 10:09 |
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| SamYaple | the black screen might be the guest turning off the monitor. try trypign things | 10:10 |
| hachque_ | typing does nothing | 10:10 |
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| hachque_ | although | 10:10 |
| hachque_ | ctrl-alt-del did o_o | 10:10 |
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| SamYaple | ... did it kill your Xorg-server? | 10:11 |
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| hachque_ | i think it might be because the openstack machine only has 1 VCPU | 10:11 |
| hachque_ | because i figured nested virtualization would draw on the resources available of the top level host | 10:12 |
| hachque_ | and not the openstack VM | 10:12 |
| hachque_ | so i think I need to bump up the resources for the openstack VM | 10:12 |
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| SamYaple | all nested virtualization does is passthrough the virtualization cpu extentions, it wont give it full access to the host | 10:13 |
| hachque_ | yeah so VM's made in openstack are limited to the openstack VM's resources | 10:13 |
| SamYaple | exactly. that applies to VM made outside of openstack to | 10:14 |
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| hachque_ | hmm | 10:15 |
| hachque_ | the openstack vm shows "kvm: no hardware support" | 10:15 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: hmm, the host has "cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested" showing 1 | 10:18 |
| hachque_ | uh "cat /sys/module/kvm_amd/parameters/nested" in my case | 10:18 |
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| hachque_ | cat /proc/cpuinfo on the VM shows "svm" | 10:19 |
| hachque_ | which is the AMD virtualization support | 10:19 |
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| SamYaple | so you will need to check your nova.conf (or nova-compute.conf) for the virtualization type | 10:30 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: got it | 10:31 |
| SamYaple | Or wait. hold on a second. You see see the cpu flag svm on the host, but not on the first tier VM? | 10:31 |
| hachque_ | i had to set the cpu mode to host-passthrough | 10:31 |
| hachque_ | for libvirt | 10:31 |
| SamYaple | Host -> Openstack Infrastructure VM -> Openstack instace | 10:32 |
| hachque_ | (the OpenStack VM itself) | 10:32 |
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| hachque_ | i had to set cpu host-passthrough on the infrastructure VM | 10:32 |
| SamYaple | ok. you should see the svm flag on Host -> Openstack Infrastructure VM, not Openstack instance. | 10:32 |
| hachque_ | yeah | 10:32 |
| SamYaple | the cpu host-passthrough will passthrough all available host flags | 10:32 |
| hachque_ | when I say OpenStack VM i mean the first tier VM | 10:32 |
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| hachque_ | not the VMs that OpenStack is creating | 10:32 |
| SamYaple | indeed. | 10:33 |
| hachque_ | vmception | 10:33 |
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| SamYaple | Hey, I have done 4 deep nested virutalization for my Openstack on Openstack projects. it gets confusing very quickly | 10:33 |
| hachque_ | haha whoa | 10:33 |
| hachque_ | dat virtualization overhead | 10:33 |
| maishsk | Good afternoon all | 10:34 |
| SamYaple | ... is almost no existant really. As long as the host can support n number of VMs, it runs fine | 10:34 |
| maishsk | is it possible to deploy instances with jenkins? | 10:34 |
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| mrafiee | hello | 10:41 |
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| mrafiee | I have a problem while lunching an instance | 10:42 |
| mrafiee | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/54170/instance-failed-to-spawn-problem/ | 10:42 |
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| SamYaple | mrafiee: as kashyapk pointed out, this is answered in another question (several in fact) | 10:44 |
| SamYaple | You have a config issue | 10:44 |
| SamYaple | Likely it is misconfigured, but possibly the config file is just not being loaded | 10:44 |
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| hachque_ | hmm | 10:59 |
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| hachque_ | for some reason why i start the instance through openstack, libvirt shows it as "paused" | 10:59 |
| hachque_ | when I do resume instance-0000000X | 10:59 |
| hachque_ | then the VNC shows up correctly in the dashboard | 10:59 |
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| hachque_ | oh | 11:00 |
| hachque_ | here we go | 11:00 |
| hachque_ | the dashboard just said | 11:00 |
| hachque_ | Failed to launch instance "test": Please try again later [Error: Build of instance 42c70339-4791-42b5-ae3b-a23c1258a94c aborted: Failed to allocate the network(s), not rescheduling.]. | 11:00 |
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| mrafiee | SamYaple: can you give me the link i could not find it | 11:01 |
| mrafiee | plz ^ :) | 11:01 |
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| SamYaple | mrafiee https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/48407/instance-failing-to-spawn-logs-show-novaexception-unexpected-vif_typebinding_failed/ | 11:05 |
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| hachque_ | well i'm getting VirtualInterfaceCreateException inside the nova compute logs | 11:12 |
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| hachque_ | gah this networking will be the death of me | 11:18 |
| hachque_ | there's no errors in the neutron logs | 11:18 |
| hachque_ | the openvswitch logs look fine (adding the appropriate interfaces and whatnot) | 11:19 |
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| giorgiodinapoli | hachque_, which distro | 11:25 |
| hachque_ | giorgiodinapoli: opensuse | 11:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | OK that i dont know | 11:25 |
| giorgiodinapoli | i hsd problem with ip tables ns in ubuntu | 11:26 |
| hachque_ | iptables only contain nova related stuff | 11:26 |
| hachque_ | for me | 11:26 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: did you turn on debug and verbose? | 11:27 |
| SamYaple | if noy you wont see anything | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | yeah | 11:27 |
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| hachque_ | i have debug and verbose on in my logs | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | but no errors or anything in the neutron logs | 11:27 |
| SamYaple | so you get the error in the compute log? | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | the nova logs just show the exception | 11:27 |
| SamYaple | can you post the logs and your nova.conf | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | i did vif_plugging_is_fatal = False | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | and vif_plugging_timeout= 0 | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | in nova.conf, and it "worked" | 11:27 |
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| hachque_ | but i'm pretty sure that just ignores the problem | 11:27 |
| hachque_ | and that the networking is probably broken on the VM | 11:28 |
| hachque_ | sure | 11:28 |
| hachque_ | (i'll undo that change and start a new instance to reproduce the issue) | 11:28 |
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| hachque_ | ooh | 11:31 |
| hachque_ | i just spotted | 11:31 |
| hachque_ | nova.virt.disk.mount.nbd [-] nbd module not loaded | 11:31 |
| ujjain | how do I query ip availability in Neutron? | 11:31 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: that is for qcow2 images and things. | 11:33 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: did you install sysfsutils (or opensuse equiv. package)? | 11:34 |
| hachque_ | SamYaple: yeah, just fixed it so it loads on boot | 11:34 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: i also have sysfsutils installed | 11:38 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: here is nova.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/137414/ | 11:39 |
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| hachque_ | now just waiting for the instance stuff to run through until it fails | 11:41 |
| hachque_ | which could take another 5 minutes or so | 11:41 |
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| mkulke | hello, how can see the list of floating ips available to a tenant? | 11:54 |
| hachque_ | SamYaple: http://paste.openstack.org/show/137426/ | 11:55 |
| hachque_ | here's the compute log | 11:55 |
| hachque_ | oh | 11:55 |
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| hachque_ | looks like paste.openstack.org didn't paste all of that | 11:56 |
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| hachque_ | SamYaple: https://code.redpointsoftware.com.au/F387170 | 11:59 |
| hachque_ | there's a link to the uploaded log file | 11:59 |
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| hachque_ | if you search for "exception" you can see the VirtualInterfaceCreateException | 12:01 |
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| hachque_ | i can also see Timeout waiting for vif plugging callback for instance 51c175fb-6933-453d-9798-6b32924c87d7 | 12:02 |
| hachque_ | as a warning from the nova libvirt driver | 12:02 |
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| SamYaple | hachque_: Ive gotten busy here at work, but my guess is that your metadata stuff isnt setup correctly | 12:03 |
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| SamYaple | that should hanle port updates and things for nova | 12:03 |
| SamYaple | it is configured in both neutron.conf and nova.conf | 12:03 |
| hachque_ | as in the service_metadata_proxy ? | 12:03 |
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| SamYaple | yes nova-api-metadata-proxy and neutron-metadata-agent | 12:11 |
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| _nick | hachque_: you can set vif_plugging_is_fatal to false and also vif_plugging_timeout = 0 in nova.conf on your compute nodes | 12:33 |
| hachque_ | _nick: i actually just think i found the issue | 12:33 |
| _nick | hachque_: but really you should configure neutron notifications to talk to nova properly | 12:33 |
| hachque_ | i had service_metadata_proxy and metadata_proxy_shared_secret in the default section | 12:33 |
| hachque_ | and not the neutron section | 12:33 |
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| hachque_ | well that didn't fix it :( | 12:44 |
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| hachque_ | well for now i'll just disable vif timeout | 12:45 |
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| hachque_ | and vif is fatal | 12:45 |
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| hachque | i mean I guess I could use the NFS driver and point it back to a folder on the local machine | 13:36 |
| hachque | but that seems weird | 13:36 |
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| nikil22 | hi in multinode deployment Dhcp ip lease is failing (sending descovered failed...) How can i debut it. ps -aux |grep relay or ps -aux |grep dhclient in controller node doesnot give any output | 14:28 |
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| kitch_ | Question. How secure is it to have multiple tenants share a single L3 router as long as each has a private network with non-routable addresses? | 15:17 |
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| SamYaple | kitch_: safe and common as long as the router is owned by an admin | 15:19 |
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| kitch_ | Yep, plan is that the router would be admin owned | 15:19 |
| SamYaple | this means ports connected form the router to a tenant network would have to be done by an admin | 15:19 |
| SamYaple | maybe this will work with shared.. but im not sure | 15:19 |
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| SamYaple | oh also, this removes the ability to have overlapping subnets | 15:20 |
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| SamYaple | to be more clear, no overlapping subnets connected to the router (technically you can have them in the tenant connected to different routers | 15:20 |
| kitch_ | SamYaple: Our plan is that the admin would create the tenant networks and connect them to the router. Yes, no overlapping. So how do you prevent tenant to tenant communication in this scenario? I know that say a 172 address is non-routable say upstream/downstream out of the router, but is it safe from side to side? | 15:20 |
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| SamYaple | kitch_: what rules do you think are in place side to side? | 15:21 |
| kitch_ | Will the L3 router not allow tenant A on 172.1.x.x to ping address on tenant B 172.2.0.0 | 15:21 |
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| kitch_ | Well, I guess that is my question, will the L3 router default rules prevent that side to side connectivity? | 15:22 |
| SamYaple | Pretty sure that is all blocked, but I may be confusing FWaaS plugin with this. I suggest testing it unless you want to dig in the code (and even then...) | 15:22 |
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| kitch_ | SamYaple: Yeah, we do plan to test more thoroughly, was just curious if others had experience with it | 15:22 |
| SamYaple | i did setup what you are talking about at one point, but its been to long for me to give definite answers | 15:22 |
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| kitch_ | SamYaple: fair enough. I’ll let you know what we find out. | 15:23 |
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| txomon|fon | hi, I am trying to have swift use cinder as storage, is it possible? | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | txomon|fon: nope | 16:07 |
| notmyname | txomon|fon: no, not really | 16:07 |
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| txomon|fon | because I have read about glance using cinder/swift... | 16:08 |
| txomon|fon | ok | 16:08 |
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| notmyname | jgriffith: I mean, yeah you could carve up cinder volumes and put those into the swift ring. but that's almost certainly a really bad idea | 16:08 |
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| jgriffith | notmyname: yeah, that's what I was wondering if txomon|fon was thinking of | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | notmyname: and I'd agree likely not an *ideal* approach | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | notmyname: could be more trouble than it's worth for sure | 16:09 |
| notmyname | jgriffith: where "not ideal" == pretty terrible? ;-) | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | notmyname: Tomateo, Tomato | 16:09 |
| notmyname | jgriffith: and then you snap your cinder volumes to swift! it's volumes all the way down! | 16:09 |
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| jgriffith | notmyname: lol | 16:10 |
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| jgriffith | notmyname: it's really all the way around not a good idea | 16:10 |
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| jgriffith | notmyname: unless you want to build a swift cluster using OpenStack for some experimental thing | 16:10 |
| txomon|fon | I have openstack installed just in one machine, and will in some point in the future have it in 2. So I am wondering whether it makes sense to have the object storage use the block storage device as backend or not | 16:10 |
| notmyname | jgriffith: openstack? experimental? nobody does that! | 16:10 |
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| jgriffith | haha | 16:11 |
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| txomon|fon | mainly because swift knows about objects and cinder about how to store them | 16:12 |
| notmyname | txomon|fon: I love what you're thinking, but swift and cinder are for different things and solve different problems. they work together in that you can do cinder backups/snapshots to swift, but you can't use cinder as the volumes that swift uses | 16:12 |
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| txomon|fon | oh ok | 16:12 |
| txomon|fon | so swift stores directly in a normal filesystem? | 16:12 |
| txomon|fon | or does it need some sort of LVM or RAID? | 16:13 |
| notmyname | txomon|fon: ya. you give swift hard drives formatted with a local filesystem (XFS is recommended). no need for RAID. there are some use cases for LVM, but that's beyond the scope of this discussion | 16:13 |
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| notmyname | txomon|fon: the important point is to not hide the physical failure domains from swift. that's why you normally don't want to use cinder for provisioning volumes to be used by swift | 16:14 |
| txomon|fon | oh ok, so it's failure proof itself | 16:14 |
| txomon|fon | oki doky | 16:14 |
| txomon|fon | =) | 16:14 |
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| txomon|fon | Ok, this explains quite well what it's for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0zz6ahZjnE | 16:18 |
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| JayJ | Can somebody enlighten me with a very basic question? Where is ephemeral disk of the instance stored on the physical disk? I assumed it should be under /var/... qemu/images, default location. I cannot find it there! | 16:58 |
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| jthorne | JayJ its stored in the folder named after the UUID in /var/lib/nova/instances | 17:05 |
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| txomon|fon | hi, I have configured nova to use cinder, but I can still launch stuff in the local storage | 17:07 |
| txomon|fon | any ideas on how to hide that option from the horizon panel? | 17:07 |
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| JayJ | jthorne: hmm.. I've configured backend storage "enabled_backends=sas_storage,fusionio_storage" I thought only cinder uses this. However, it appears that the instance is launched pn rbd backend. Is that how it works? I want the ephemeral storage to stay on the local disk where instance is running | 17:13 |
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| atpa8a | hello | 17:16 |
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| JayJ | Can anyone tell me whether configuring "enabled_backends" puts the ephemeral disks on the backend as well? I've configured Ceph backend but my ephemeral disks are carved out on ceph, which is not what I wanted. | 17:29 |
| JayJ | jthorne: ^^^^^ | 17:29 |
| JayJ | jthorne: Is that how its supposed to work? Hope not | 17:30 |
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| jetole | Hey guys. I am using Neutron / VLAN which works fine for most of my projects however I have a few projects which I would like to set the fixed-ip as routable without NAT. Can this be done? | 17:41 |
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| hypnosb | I try to setup spicehtml5proxy, but in horizon it says can not connect. I check /var/log/messages and says Can not find spice html/js/css files at /usr/share/spice-html5 .. which is true... Where are they? | 17:42 |
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| ska | I'm install packstack on single server; I'd like to configure all the networking in a separate step. Will --provision-all-in-one-ovs-bridge=n allow me to to that? | 17:47 |
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| jthorne | jayj did you configure that backend storage in cinder.conf or nova.conf? | 17:53 |
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| JayJ | jthorne: In cinder.conf. | 17:54 |
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| jthorne | jayj then i wouldn't expect nova to use that storage unless you are doing Boot from Cinder Volume | 17:55 |
| jthorne | jayj i really am not sure though. i have never setup your use case. | 17:55 |
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| hypnosb | which has the /usr/share/spice-html5 js/html/css files | 17:59 |
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| hypnosb | so installed the rpm manually, ... seems to mostly work, from horizon cirros works fine but fedora 20 seems fubar... all work fine with the spice client | 18:17 |
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| JayJ | jthorne: Found it. My bad. Race condition between my scripts and a manual change I had made :( | 18:34 |
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| aricg | After I issue a systemctl restart network, despite preserving my routes, I can't ping my router. If I destroy and recreate the neutron network, everything works again. How do i kick neutron after networking is restarted? | 20:07 |
| aricg | (my router=my neutron router) | 20:07 |
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| aricg | Okay this worked: | 20:28 |
| aricg | for i in dhcp-agent l3-agent metadata-agent openvswitch-agent ovs-cleanup server; \ | 20:28 |
| aricg | do service neutron-$i restart; done | 20:28 |
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| aricg | however, I can now ping my neutron router, but not the machine attached to it. | 20:29 |
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| aricg | If I destroy the machine an create a new one networking works as expected. | 20:29 |
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| larsks | aricg: don't run ovs-cleanup except at system boot (or, more accurate, run it only when all other neutron services are stopped). Otherwise it may tear down things that should not be torn down. | 20:42 |
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| kickerdog | I need some help.my openstack keeps segfaulting and the machine just completely dies and has to be forcefully rebooted. | 20:43 |
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| aricg | larsks: thanks, I'll try this again | 20:44 |
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| visualne_ | Hello, I am seeing any issue where GRE tunnels are being removed randomly from br-tun one of my compute nodes in my icehouse cluster | 20:58 |
| visualne_ | Anyone see this before? | 20:58 |
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| larsks | visualne_: do you have a sense if these tunnels are being removed *reguarly* (like, every 30 minutes or something), or is it actually random? | 21:13 |
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| visualne_ | it "seems" random | 21:22 |
| visualne_ | a developer just told me about it | 21:22 |
| visualne_ | I suppose I could write a script to watch | 21:22 |
| visualne_ | but I'm way to lazy to do that | 21:22 |
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| larsks | visualne_: I have seen this before when something (e.g., a periodic puppet run) was causing the ovs-cleanup script to start up (this script is only meant to run at system boot) | 21:26 |
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| skyler_ | I am getting 'no valid host found' even though I have a perfectly good compute node in my cluster. | 21:33 |
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| larsks | skyler_: does your compute node show up in the output of 'nova hypervisor-list'? | 21:34 |
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| skyler_ | Yeah, and I can do hypervisor-show and see that it has plenty of all of the resources... | 21:36 |
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| larsks | Well, there went the simpler answer :). I guess I would start by looking at the scheduler.log -- possibly after turning on debug mode, if nothing there is helpful otherwise. | 21:36 |
| skyler_ | I just found in the log on the controller that it says the compute node has not been heard from in a while. So that is a starting point. | 21:37 |
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| larsks | That often indicates a messaging problem...if your nova-compute service is having a hard time talking to the message queue, it should log something in nova-compute.log. | 21:38 |
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| skyler_ | larsks: That is why I am confused. Everything is hunky-dory in the nova-compute.log. No errors or warnings. | 21:41 |
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| larsks | If you restart the nova compute service, does that generate different behavior and/or messages? | 21:42 |
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| skyler_ | larsks: Looks normal. It connects to rabbit. I even checked the rabbit log on the controller and indeed, I can see the connection from the compute node. | 21:45 |
| larsks | Okay. Was there anything of interest in the scheduler log? | 21:46 |
| * larsks has to step out for a few minutes; back soon. | 21:46 | |
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| jackjackdrpr | I'm having issues creating storage in LVM. I'm just looking to orchestrate my vm deployment with nova, horizon, and cinder. The way I setup my KVM host is I have my boot partition as a primary partition non LVM. And the rest, root (for KVM host OS) and swap are in LVM. It seems cinder can not create the logical volume for nova to use when triggering the build in KVM. Any thoughts? | 21:48 |
| skyler_ | larsks: There is a warning saying that the compute node hasn't been heard from in a while. | 21:49 |
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| larsks | jackjackdrpr: cinder requires a *volume group*, not a *logical volume*. What is volume_group set to in /etc/cinder/cinder.conf, and does that VG exist? | 21:52 |
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| jackjackdrpr | yes it does it set to /dev/VolGroup00 | 21:52 |
| skyler_ | larsks: It works now... I restarted the services a couple of times in the debugging process and it must have cleared the problem up. I guess I wont get to know why until next time. | 21:53 |
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| larsks | skyler_: I hate when that happens :) | 21:53 |
| larsks | jackjackdrpr: are you getting specific error messages from nova? | 21:53 |
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| skyler_ | larsks: Yeah, it was giving me the hasn't been heard from in a while warning every 15 minutes in the log, and I noticed the last one was 17 minutes old, so I tried launching an instance... | 21:54 |
| jackjackdrpr | unfortunately none it just goes straight to failed in horizon interface when I trigger the instance creation | 21:54 |
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| jackjackdrpr | i see the sudoers permission in place | 21:55 |
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| larsks | jackjackdrpr: have you checked your server logs? | 21:57 |
| larsks | If you look at the detail for the failed server in Horizion, is there an error message there? | 21:57 |
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| ranger81 | what is the default login credential for rabbitmq UI login? | 21:58 |
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| jackjackdrpr | yeah and it's not making sense to me right now. My question here is am i doing it right? do I need need both cinder and nova to do the orchestration in KVM or would nova alone suffice? | 21:58 |
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| larsks | jackjackdrpr: I guess I'm not sure I understand your question or exactly what you're trying to do. | 21:59 |
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| jackjackdrpr | larsks: so my setup is I have nova, glance, keystone, and horizon in the openstack servers. what do I need to install in the kvm servers so I can build an instance? I'm forgoing neutron for now I just have all in dhcp. | 22:02 |
| larsks | The only service that needs to run on your hypervisors is nova-compute. You don't need cinder unless you are planning on using it (that is, you should be able to boot instances just fine without a cinder service running anywhere). | 22:03 |
| skyler_ | Does `nova resize` work at all? It just doesn't seem to do anything when I use it. | 22:03 |
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| larsks | skyler_: I haven't played around with resize much (but I've had a similar experience the few times I have tried). | 22:03 |
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| skyler_ | larsks: Hmm... Yeah, it just seems to fail silently. | 22:04 |
| larsks | jackjackdrpr: If you are running nova in multi-host mode, then you would also need nova-network on your hypervisors, too. | 22:04 |
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| larsks | Have to take off. Good luck, all! | 22:05 |
| jackjackdrpr | larsks: thanks that helps me a lot. I can eliminate cinder for now and concentrate my troubleshooting. I'm keeping it simple for now. | 22:05 |
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| skyler_ | larsks: Thanks for the help. Have a good one. | 22:05 |
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| lv_ | hey, i'm using packer builder to create openstack images in the rackspace cloud..... i'm noticing that it's taking an increasing amount of time to launch these images.. i'm wondering about any general ways to speed this up..... < i'm using these images to speed up provisioing in autoscaling groups | 22:12 |
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| clarkb | lv_: iirc booting snapshot images is slower than booting off of normal images. so if packer makes images via snapshots that could be the issue. an alternative is to directly upload an image to rackspace glance | 22:18 |
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| godber | quick basic question ... can I start using openstack on kvm hosts that I've already been using or do I need to start fresh? | 22:24 |
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| lv_ | clarkb: doesn't loook so pretty.. thank you though for resp | 22:28 |
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| clarkb | lv_: you should be able to have packer build an image locally via some method then convert that to what xen wants | 22:29 |
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| clarkb | you will likely need to have nova agent installed though | 22:29 |
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| shepax | hi all im looking to set openstack as a service, is there a layer that do that? my idea is that a user can create an account and select diferent services free, silver, gold etc | 22:59 |
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| shepax | im doing this for mi university thesis | 23:00 |
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| shepax | some one? | 23:03 |
| ruagair | You might be able to re-purpose instance types to that. | 23:04 |
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| shepax | ruagair who are u tolking to? | 23:06 |
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| belph | Hey would someone be able to help me out with some Sahara errors? | 23:12 |
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| dmitryme | belph: what is the trouble? | 23:19 |
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| skyler_ | shepax: So you are talking about setting up OpenStack for people as a service, right? | 23:25 |
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| Freemason | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUuhPFFIc60#t=45 | 23:28 |
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| shepax | hi | 23:32 |
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| skyler_ | shepax: hi, if you care to answer my question above, I can probably point you toward what you are looking for. | 23:46 |
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