Monday, 2014-12-01

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gugaubuntu00:23
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SamYapleguga: I dont know of any native one, Ceilometer is a metering agent that can be used for billing. But youll need to write your own queries to bill it.01:02
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gugaI tryied installing Celiometer, but I'm having a REALLY hard time doing so. Probably I'm too stupid to know how to do this kind of stuff. I follow every step-by-step guide to install all the billing algorithms that are available out there for openstack but I end up stuck at some point01:04
gugaDo you know any way that I can learn more about this kind of stuff? All the guides that I find require some background knowledge, and I basically don't have any :/01:05
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SamYapleguga: Unfortunately, I dont. My only suggestion is to turn on debug and verbose and track down every error01:06
SamYapleOnce you get a handle on the stack traces finding the problem is typically straightforward01:06
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SamYapleCeilometer is definetly a pain sometimes01:07
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gugaOk, will try that01:29
gugaThankes01:29
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SimplySethHow do I correctly attain the IP address so as to set it in the HEAT template: http://dpaste.com/2MG4Q9005:42
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jasonsbSimplySeth: what address do you need?05:50
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SimplySethJason ... whatever private address is being set by the process05:51
jasonsbhmm i haven't done anything with heat per se05:51
jasonsbbut in my coreos i just set discovery05:52
jasonsband addr: $private_ipv4:400105:52
jasonsband iirc it registered the right thing05:52
SimplySethjasonsb:  I might hae to go that route if this fails ... I was trying https://coreos.com/docs/cluster-management/setup/cluster-architectures/#production-cluster-with-central-services05:52
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jasonsbhmmm i didnt quite understannd the central service thing.06:05
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jasonsbbut if you need info about the address maybe you can use OS::Neutron::Port06:06
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SimplySethjasonsb:  thanks06:06
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jasonsbi think you can get a first_address from get_attr06:07
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jasonsbwhich you could pop in for the value you need06:08
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jasonsbi don't have a good example off hand though06:09
jasonsbhmmm06:09
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jasonsbhttps://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_net.yaml06:10
jasonsbdoes that help?06:10
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jasonsbSimplySeth: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/servers_in_existing_neutron_net.yaml06:13
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SimplySethjasonsb:  thx06:13
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Akshik_is there a way to find the OS installed in the guest VM06:15
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jasonsblsb_release -a06:15
jasonsb?06:15
Akshik_from openstack06:16
jasonsbmetadata in glance i suppose06:16
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Akshik_jasonsb, if the image is uploaded by the user, and if we need to know is there a way?06:18
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jasonsbyou could ask user to set metadata?06:20
jasonsbwhen they upload to glance06:20
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Akshik_jasonsb, yes you are right if its forcebly done then we can get the info but not thru any standard ways right?06:22
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jasonsbyou could boot the image and do a lsb_release -a06:22
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jasonsbor you could mount the qcow and examine certain files06:23
jasonsbnot sure06:23
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Akshik_jasonsb, Thanks06:28
Akshik_Segregate tenant traffic on a specific nic,06:28
Akshik_like we have bridge mappings for the provider network, bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex,physnet2:br-eth106:28
Akshik_and make them available is there a possibility to have similar config for mapping specific tenant network to specific nic.06:28
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jasonsbAkshik_: for tenant network you can nova boot --nic net-id=XXXX  --nic net-id=YYYY07:34
jasonsband it would give you eth0 and eth1 on those two networks07:34
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jasonsbif you pulled a floating ip you could also have a presense on the provider net07:36
jasonsbi'm not sure if i'm answering your question07:36
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Akshik_jasonsb, will try to ask the question differently, in a multi node environment bu default which nic will be chosen for tenant communication and can we controll it per tenant07:42
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jasonsboh07:45
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jasonsbyou want different overlay networks per tenant07:45
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jasonsbthat is a good question07:53
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jasonsbis vlan seperation ok?07:54
jasonsbyou can use that intead of gre07:54
jasonsbif you need more flexibility you could have a look at ofagent in neutron07:55
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Akshik_jasonsb, Thanks will look into ofagent08:32
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txomon|fonhi, I am looking at the nova code because I want to customize the XML generated for some instances. I have found https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/27156/how-to-customize-libvirtxml-for-an-instance/ so I wondered whether some type of customization by configuration was available already, per instance configuration, just in case09:20
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SamYapletxomon|fon: you cant do it per instance09:22
SamYapleyou should be able to do it per compute node09:22
SamYapleThe config gets generated on the compute node, so you can tweak the template and py files to do what you want09:22
txomon|fonbut I need it to be per instance09:23
txomon|fonjust for 3 instances indeed09:23
SamYapletxomon|fon: you cant do it per instance09:23
txomon|fonnova, where does it take the information to fill-up each instance?09:24
txomon|fonfrom*09:24
SamYapleThe information is stored in the database, the libvirt.xml is generated based on that info. But not at the level you are talking about09:24
SamYapleYou cant change flags or add devices through nova. And there is no way to customize that libvirt temp per instance09:25
txomon|fonok, now I just need to know how volatile is /var/lib/nova/instances/ folder09:25
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SamYaplevery. All kinds of things will regenerate that xml. And changing that xml wont change the virsh info09:25
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txomon|fonnot the xml =)09:25
txomon|fonthe folder of each instance09:26
SamYapleto what end09:26
txomon|fonbecause I can place a config file, and take overriden values from there09:26
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SamYapleyou really dont want to do it like that. Thats going to cause you lots of headaches09:26
txomon|fonwhy so?09:27
SamYapleIf you are going to do something external to openstack, do it external. dont try to mingle the two09:27
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txomon|fonwhat is the difference between tweaking per host and tweaking by instance, if I just tweak in one host?09:27
sgranit depends on what you need to change.  You can make a custom image that has some tweaks09:27
sgranor you can apply changes on the compute host so it generates the xml the way you want09:28
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txomon|fonI need to change the //domain/sysinfo/system/product xpath09:28
txomon|fon(badly written)09:28
txomon|fonper instance09:28
sgranthen you'll need to change the xml producing code on the compute host09:28
txomon|fonsgran, that is my idea09:29
sgranand it will apply to all instances running on that host09:29
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txomon|fonbut as I need that per host, I can just say, read the override.ini file in the instance folder if it exists, and take the values from there09:29
SamYapletxomon|fon: you are mixing host and instance09:29
txomon|fonsure, because in one host, I want to be able to customize diferent each instance09:30
SamYapleas sgran just confirmed, you can make the cahnge but it will apply to all instances on one compute node09:30
txomon|fonno problem, I will make the change so that it only works on overriden instances09:30
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txomon|fonthe point is, if I write a file in a /var/lib/nova/instances/ folder, will it be erased?09:31
txomon|fonnot the xml09:31
txomon|fonbut an additional file09:31
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HaneevHi, i have a question about OpenStack. Can openstack be used for inter-clouds enviroments, or cloud federations. Or is OpenStack limited to one cloud provider11:53
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_etOpenStack itself is used to provide clouds. Rephrase your question11:55
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HaneevCan OpenStack be used to Connect several Cloud Providers, for example Two Seperate Businesses who are joining a federation thus they can share their resources11:57
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twillberHaneev, the point of OpenStack is that you'll be the cloud provider. You'll need another cloud orchestrator/broker to bridge various environments together11:58
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HaneevOk. so OpenStack does not support some functions to simply connect other OpenStack users to share their resources11:59
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telnes1hello, any idea why the neutron-server start directy but not as a service ?12:55
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telnes1service neutron-server start... not bind the 969612:55
telnes1but I can see a ps running12:55
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SamYapletelnes1: What is currenlty bound to 9696? Are oyu sure it is the neutron-server process?12:56
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telnes1nothing currently is bounding12:56
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telnes1when I run neutron-server --debug12:57
SamYapleIf nothing is currently bound, it should be throwing that error message12:57
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telnes1the log tell me is OK and the neutron cmd work12:57
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telnes1no log in the /var/log/neutron ...12:57
telnes1I can paste log if you wana see !12:58
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telnes1http://pastebin.com/nRikx4RF13:08
telnes1some log13:08
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Madkisswhat tables does nova store a list of all instances in?13:13
Madkissi would have thought it's "instances" in MySQL but I deleted all lines from instances and I still see messages like: Periodic task is updating the host stat, it is trying to get disk instance-0000019c, but disk file was removed by concurrent operations such as resize."13:14
Madkissin every compute node's log file13:14
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tomtomtomtomhi all13:45
tomtomtomtomquick question13:45
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tomtomtomtomusing the nova command, is it possible to list what security groups a server is associated with?13:46
tomtomtomtomI can't seem to find the right option anywhere...13:46
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Bob_George33I'm toying with devstack, and the password I've set doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?13:47
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dguitarbiteBob_George33: which password/13:47
dguitarbite??13:47
dguitarbitefor the users?13:47
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dguitarbite*keystone user?13:47
Iletomtomtomtom, nova show <server> shows the security groups13:47
tomtomtomtomhaha oops, so it does...13:48
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tomtomtomtomthanks!13:48
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Bob_George33in local.conf I have "ADMIN_PASSWORD=secrete"13:50
Bob_George33Does that mean I can log in with admin/secrete?13:50
Bob_George33Or is the keystone pass the pass I need?13:50
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dguitarbiteno, I think its the admin users password13:53
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dguitarbitelet me confirm Bob_George3313:53
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Bob_George33Thanks dguitarbite13:53
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dguitarbiteBob_George33: that is admin password for the configuration files for openstack services13:55
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dguitarbiteit should allow you to login through dashboard though13:55
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pransharhi...13:55
Bob_George33Hey13:55
pransharI have been going through OpenStack docs for sometime now. I feel it is time to move on to solvng bugs. I wanted to know, if threre is any mentorship program available?13:56
pransharI tried get answers on 101 but no response :(13:56
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pransharsorry if this group doesnt deal with these begginer level q's.13:56
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Bob_George33Ah, you know what ould help, cp'ing local.conf to devstack...14:01
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rushiagrpranshar: no problems. What would you like to work on?14:12
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rushiagrpranshar: do you have any specific project/area in your mind?14:12
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pransharrushiagr: I have been reading abt neutron.. So it would be great if something is availble in that..14:13
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rushiagrpranshar: you can contact folks working on it in #openstack-neutron channel14:14
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rushiagrpranshar: also, you can have a look at the bugs in neutron at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron14:14
pransharthanks!!14:14
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rushiagruse tags to target specific bugs, e.g. I can see around 15 bugs with tag 'low-hanging-fruit'..those are (supposedly) the easier ones..14:15
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rushiagrpranshar: though I've always found beginners telling me they're not quite low hanging fruits many a times :)14:15
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pranshar:)14:16
Bob_George33How many people do you think actively contribute to openstack?14:16
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pransharBob_George33: I am not sure :-/14:17
ondergetekendeBob_George33, the answer's here http://stackalytics.com/14:17
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Bob_George33ty ondergetekende14:17
ondergetekende990 contributers to Kilo so far.14:18
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ondergetekende1546 contributers to juno.14:19
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eth2Sam-I-Am, hi are you around?14:20
RedcavalierHi guys14:20
eth2Hey redcavalier14:20
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Bob_George33Hmm... Devstack is error 500ing. Going to have to reinstall ubuntu and start again14:20
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rushiagrBob_George33: what's the error?14:23
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rushiagrBob_George33: reinstalling ubuntu is probably a bit overkill I think :)14:23
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Bob_George33It just error 500's. Reinstalling is overkill, but it gives me a bit of time to work on other stuff14:25
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RedcavalierWere there any new bugs reported for dvr on the latest stable version of Juno? It's not exactly obvious from the launchpad14:35
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telnes1need somebody to help me to find why my neutron-server crash (respawn) and never start http://pastebin.com/7S1YSPjb and http://pastebin.com/nRikx4RF14:44
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hypnosbHey I have spicehtml5console going and it works fine in cirros but using a fedora image ... the keyboard does not work and debut says Unable to interpret bitmap of format: 2 Unknown message type 30415:08
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franredhi, Im having a problem with cinder, it does not like to remove the volumes, it given me an error related to dd but I can't see why is failing using dd: http://paste.baserock.org/aduqehidim.vhdl16:04
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franredthe first line is: sudo -u cinder sudo cinder-rootwrap /etc/cinder/rootwrap.conf dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/cinder--volumes-volume--d2245407--a322--4923--bd40--dccf85bdd2a3 count=1024 bs=1M conv=fdatasync16:05
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guimalufon havana I've updated the database to increase my floating-ip-range, but the new available IP are not allocated and I keep getting "Unable to allocate IP", what else should I do to update my floating ip list?16:19
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diogogmtanybody is familiar on how to use the glance /image V2 api to create and upload images?16:44
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diogogmtit looks like version 1 is very different from version 216:44
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diogogmtany docs expaining the flow and differences between both versions?16:44
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annegent_diogogmt: there are a lot of v2.0 worked examples at https://developer.rackspace.com/docs/cloud-images/getting-started/16:46
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annegent_diogogmt: but no comparison doc that I know of.16:47
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terjefranred: looks like your version of dd doesn't support fdatasync for some reason16:47
diogogmtannegent_: k thanks16:48
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franredterje, it loooks like I have 2 versions of dd in my system, one from busybox (/bin/dd) and another from coreutils (/usr/bin/dd) and for some reason it detects the busybox one which does not support fdatasync (it is very old)16:51
franredterje, thank you for the idea16:51
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Rivera_Is there a way to make my virtual instances HA with load-balancing? The docs I've read seem to be implementing HA by loadbalancing the physical nodes (network and controller)16:59
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kickerdogI've got a crappy issue with salt-cloud with openstack where when i'm deploying multiple vm's, the same floating ip keeps getting re-attached to the next new vm. Has anyone ran into this issue?17:11
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RedcavalierGot a quick question guys. Got a DVR setup in juno working. DVR with floating IPs appear to be working, but SNAT doesn't, when no ip is set.17:29
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Redcavalieris the issue more likely to be on the network node or the computes in such a case? I'm not exactly sure where I should begin investigating this17:30
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koolhead17m_3_: hi17:30
koolhead17Madkiss: howdy17:30
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koolhead17annegentle: thanks :)17:31
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m_3_koolhead17: hey man17:33
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Madkisshello koolhead1717:35
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koolhead17Madkiss: how have you been man? long time17:37
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koolhead17this channel is so silent17:39
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Madkisskoolhead17: all good. i've moved to berlin and switched jobs :)17:46
koolhead17Madkiss: ooh congrats!!17:46
* bulldozer1 just started really playing with openstack. :)17:47
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bulldozer1coming from a hw vendor background, lots of new stuff out here :)17:47
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Redcavalierto add more infor to my issue earlier, we found that packets from VMs did reach the network node, but they don'T reach the namespace for SNAT17:57
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vt102Since both the nova and neutron CLIs can allocate and associate Floating IPs, is one preferred or deprecated?  How should I be instructing users?18:05
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Redcavaliervt102 If you'Re using neutron for networ, I suggest using the neutron option.18:17
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Redcavaliervt102 the thing is that nova legacy network is still a thing, so I would expect the nova floating ip cli command to be for that18:17
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vt102Ah, makes sense.  I just have having to use port references instead of the machine name.18:23
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patcableoy. I'm trying to do a 'keystone-manage db_sync" and going from version 38 to version 39, I get MySQL error 1213, 'Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction'18:28
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diogogmtannegent_: i’m trying to find in the docs any mention on how to upload an image using the REST apis, it seems that it is a two step process, wher you first create the image entity and then upload its content, does that make sense and is there any documentation on the flow?18:47
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annegent_diogogmt: one way to see the REST API calls is to use --debug with the glance cli commands18:53
annegent_diogogmt: so see http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/cli_manage_images.html18:53
diogogmtannegent_: i’m setting the debug flag on, but it looks like that after the image gets created is stays in a QUEUED state18:53
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diogogmtannegent_: thanks for the link,  exactly what i was looking for :)18:54
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annegent_diogogmt: ok cool, I think queued just means "uploading in the background" and you just wait for it to turn to "active"18:55
annegent_diogogmt: is that right?18:55
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annegent_diogogmt: there's an optional image cache on the operator's side, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/cache.html18:56
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diogogmtannegent_: the image is staying in a permanent queued state so i think i’m missing an argument when i send the request18:56
diogogmtannegent_: k, i’ll check that link out18:57
diogogmtthanks18:57
annegent_diogogmt: or your backend is misconfigured, what's the cloud itself? Something you set up or a provider?18:57
thebozzGuys, I'm learning about Openstack for our future cloud computing cluster. I'm still very new to it, and I haven't been able to understand some stuff completely. My first (possibly stupid) question is: will I be able to allocate single complete drives to a single virtual machine? For example, when creating instances of Hadoop or Elasticsearch.18:57
diogogmtannegent_: backend is properly configured since i can upload images through horizon, i’m onlye experiencing issues with the glance rest api18:58
annegent_diogogmt: interesting.18:58
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annegent_thebozz: you might start with http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/storage_decision.html#openstack_storage -- I'm not completely sure of the exact answer18:59
annegent_diogogmt: do you know what version the backend uses for certain?18:59
annegent_(glance rest api version)19:00
thebozzannegent_: thanks, I'll read that then come back if I still have any questions.19:00
diogogmtannegent_: i’m going to keep playing with the glance python client and see if i can identify the issue, one thing i could use some help though: do you know why by default the glance image endpoint does not specify the version? i see that for compute the format is :8774/v2/:tenantId, but then for image is :9292 without the version19:00
diogogmtthe glance python client selects version 1 by default though, any idea why the image versioning would behave differently then the compute versioning?19:01
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diogogmtis that a configuration change or a design choice?19:01
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annegent_diogogmt: I think 9292 is typically the wsgi server port and the 8774 is the api endpoint port19:02
annegent_diogogmt: oh wait. 8774 is the compute endpoint, 9292 is the glance api (wsgi) endpoint19:02
annegent_diogogmt: there are two endpoints for compute services and image services19:02
diogogmtannegent_: yes, what i mean is that by default the image endpoint does not specify the version, the compute endpoints does though19:03
annegent_diogogmt: and yes, the provider choses which api version to run19:03
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diogogmtwhen i genreate the authentication token and get back the endpoint service catalog it only comes back the port on which the image endpoint is running, it does not show which versions are available19:03
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annegent_diogogmt: looking19:05
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annegent_diogogmt: I think that's a provider decision when creating the endpoints19:05
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annegent_diogogmt: yeah Trystack doesn't indicate an Image API version in the endpoint either19:06
annegent_diogogmt: can you do a GET / and see a version?19:07
annegent_diogogmt: unfortunately there are two version entries for v1 and v2.019:07
annegent_https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/API_Improvements/Entry_Points19:07
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annegent_diogogmt: heading to lunch, hope that gives you some more clues19:08
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ranger81SamYaple: Have you encountered a situation where there will be a need of more than one network node?19:37
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diogogmtannegentle: yes if i do a GET on the :9292 endpoint it gives me back an array of supported versions — should i file a ticket for this version endpoint inconsistency? which project would that fall in?19:40
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ranger81connecting to a nova instance gives me error "the server refused the connection". The instance was based on cirros image.19:53
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dtrainordoes the ml2 plugin need to be configured and running on network and compute nodes?20:30
dtrainorall nodes except a controller, is what I'm understanding20:30
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hezekiah_ok. I'm having a weird issue where nova-api is not registering with keystone, or can't seem to find endpionts (nova image list fails with Could not find any suitable endpoint. Correct region?)20:50
hezekiah_but things seem configured correctly20:50
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hezekiah_I'm seeing no errors anywhere20:50
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dtrainorI must have a typo here, I can't find out in which context my neutron command is failing when executing from the controller.  I'm getting a generic "ERROR: neutronclient.shell Unable to establish connection to http://controller01.corpdomain.local:9696/v2.0/extensions.json".  I *believe* it's coming from [neutron] on my controller's nova.conf but I'm not sure.  I do know, however, that 9696 is neutron networking, so this almost doesn't make sense?20:51
hezekiah_using latest icehouse.   I do see warnings about using keystone uri instead of fragments. But I see that on my working deployment also20:51
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dtrainorAt least, the commented out docu in nova.conf says url is to be used as:  "URL for connecting to neutron (string value)"20:52
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dtrainoroh, it's probably coming from keystone, it's an endpoint.20:55
annegentlediogogmt: I had to use http://8.21.28.222:9292/images/v2/images to get an image list, is that similiar to what you're doing?20:55
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annegentlediogogmt: it's glance that is the project to log the bug with, I believe20:55
dtrainorCan I edit the keystone db by hand or is that just asking for trouble?  I need to adjust some of the URLS20:55
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diogogmtannegentle: i managed to get the image upload working with the version 1 api, the solution was to do a POST /images and then PUT /images/:id20:57
annegentlediogogmt: ok20:57
diogogmtannegentle: however with version 2 it doesn’t work20:57
annegentlediogogmt: ok, then it's basically what I suspected, most deployers are running v120:57
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diogogmtannegentle: does this error rings any bells? http://pastebin.com/jWC3UCMD20:58
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diogogmtit seems it is a problem on the glance python client since the image schema for version 2 is different than version 1 so the validation fails20:58
diogogmtmanily because the location should be an object and not a string20:58
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diogogmthow woul i be able to find the format for the PUT /v2/images API expects since the api docs don’t have that info and the glance python client doesn’t work?20:59
annegentlediogogmt: ohh I think that bug also goes in glance for the python-glanceclient20:59
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annegentlediogogmt: talking with my teammates, we're not sure either21:04
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rksvyexperts: I am looking for a way to measure resources used per user of my cloud, is there an opnesource tool available for this ?21:16
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rksvythere is OMD and nagios but those appear to monitor the resources of a cloud per server.21:19
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rksvyIs there a tool to easily monitor the resources used per user .. an equiv to aws measurement of resources used per account ??21:20
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rksvyanyone ?21:28
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hypnosbHey I have spicehtml5console going and it works fine in cirros but using a fedora image ... the keyboard does not work and debut says Unable to interpret bitmap of format: 2 Unknown message type 30421:29
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dtrainorAlso, if I have a network node separate from my controller node (as perscribed in the RHEL/CentOS7 install/configure guide for Juno), should I expect to have a /etc/neutron/neutron.conf on my controller node?22:09
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larsksdtrainor: if your controller is running the neutron api (which is typical), then yes.  And also on your network host, which is running the l2/l3 agents.  And on the compute hosts, which will probably have the ovs agent.22:21
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dtrainorwould the neutron api show up as a service named neutron-api?22:22
larsksIt's called neutron-server.22:22
dtrainorGot it.  Ok.  So that's on my network node.22:23
larsksThat works, but...22:23
larsks...it means now you have *two* hosts that need public ips for api access.22:23
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dtrainorAh22:23
dtrainorI'm usually pretty good with instructions but this guide is a bit ambiguous at times22:24
dtrainorI'll run through it again.  Thank you.22:24
dtrainorall this should be done on the controller node, correct?  http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-controller-node.html22:25
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dtrainorIt doesn't explicitly say that, it could just as well say install this on "that one node" and you'd still be wondering22:25
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skylerI am trying to save a snapshot. Glance registry keeps logging that it successfully retrieved the image... over and over again. I never seems to be stuck. It is in the SAVING state.22:45
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annegentledtrainor: diagrams are on http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_overview.html#architecture_example-architectures22:46
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dtrainoryou are very correct annegentle23:03
dtrainorand i'm familiar with them23:03
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dtrainorthough they don't address what I was asking, that's why i asked :)23:04
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