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| ntt | Hi, someone can help me with an upgrade of openstack from havana to icehouse? | 07:51 |
| ntt | i have some technical quesitons | 07:51 |
| ntt | questions* | 07:51 |
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| SamYaple | ntt: you can ask your questions | 07:54 |
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| ntt | SamYample: thanks...... i have an enviroment with 12 compute nodes, 2 controller in HA (active/passive) and 2 network nodes for a "non automatic" HA. i need to upgrade from havana to icehouse, but i also need to replace my 2 controllers. What happens if i shutdown the actual controllers? i mean.... this will cause problems to the vms? | 07:57 |
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| ntt | i'm worried about neutron plugins (i'm using neutron with gre) | 07:58 |
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| SamYaple | ntt: With l3 networks, as long as you dont shut down the l3 agent or node, you should be good. But I wouldn't recommend taking down both controllers at the same time | 08:02 |
| SamYaple | Why not replace one and the nthe other? | 08:02 |
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| ntt | i have a problem related to ip overlapping. my controllers are 192.168.254.10 and .11 in the management network with some VIPs where HA services are hooked (eg: 192.168.254.12 is mysql in HA). i don't want upgrade havana, i think that is more reliable install icehouse from scratch (at least on the controllers). | 08:05 |
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| ntt | So, i have to shutdown old havana controller, and after boot new controllers with icehouse and the same ips/vips | 08:06 |
| SamYaple | What about the databases? | 08:06 |
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| ntt | i can dump databases and then preform an upgrade. https://www.mirantis.com/blog/yes-can-upgrade-openstack-heres/ <-- keystone section is easy enough | 08:08 |
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| SamYaple | Yea that should work, just make sure to take proper backups of everything first | 08:10 |
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| ntt | so, i should not have problems if i shutdown controllers in openstack (from the point of view of vms) | 08:12 |
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| SamYaple | Not if you have seperate network nodes. | 08:13 |
| ntt | i'm busy for a while.... sorry... | 08:13 |
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| ntt | SamYaple: yes, i have separated network nodes | 08:34 |
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| mzbik | Hi | 09:09 |
| mzbik | I have question about docs | 09:09 |
| mzbik | why in docs there is still "tenant" when from few version tenants were switched do projects? | 09:10 |
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| SamYaple | mzbik: Only in the v3 api. The docs all use the keystone v2.0 api | 09:16 |
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| SamYaple | If I recally correctly there are stil la few core porjects that dont support v3 yet | 09:16 |
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| SamYaple | not positive on that | 09:16 |
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| teju | hi all.. I have 2 networks with subnets 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.0.0/24. How to create a router so that instances on the 2 networks can ping each other? | 09:17 |
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| mzbik | teju, create router and two network with subnets, then create interface for both of them on router :) | 09:27 |
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| mzbik | SamYaple, uh... v2 is so ... obsolete ;) | 09:27 |
| teju | mzbik : i did that,but the instances could not ping each other | 09:27 |
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| mzbik | teju, you need to create rule in security groups | 09:28 |
| mzbik | to allow pinging from other network | 09:28 |
| teju | mzbik : k. pls provide link if possible | 09:29 |
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| SamYaple | mzbik: Obsolete, but not deprecated yet | 09:30 |
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| mzbik | teju, do you have horizon? | 09:30 |
| teju | mzbik : yes | 09:30 |
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| mzbik | teju, so use project view, then security and create rule in security group default | 09:31 |
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| mzbik | ipv4 icmp remote address 0.0.0.0/0 (if you want ALL) or just 192.168.0.0/24 or 192.168.1.0/24 direction ingress | 09:32 |
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| Tume|Sai | morning | 09:47 |
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| Tume|Sai | I am facing a bit of a problem when creating snapshot in openstack. The image is somewhat created on the local disk and only after that sent to ceph, if anyone has any insights on this, I would really appreciate it. Running Juno & ceph 0.80.7-1trusty | 09:49 |
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| mzbik | with memcached as backend for tokens | 12:57 |
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| go_habs_go | Hi, got this with Juno : Maximum number of ports exceeded ? | 13:35 |
| go_habs_go | Enable to create more VM | 13:35 |
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| go_habs_go | Hi, got this with Juno : Maximum number of ports exceeded , cant create more vm ^ | 13:42 |
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| mker | Good morning, I'm using GRE for tenant nets and flat for external/provider nets. Is there anyway to get an instance directly into a external network using this setup? I want to set up a proxy machine with pub and priv interfaces | 15:04 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: I'm working on moving that spec name checking code to oslosphinx, but the dependency on launchpadlib is problematic because we have to adjust the tox.ini settings for projects. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140362/ | 15:24 |
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| dhellmann | zul: is there anything you can do to help us get a release of the relevant libs published to pypi? ^^ | 15:25 |
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| zul | dhellmann: i dont think so | 15:26 |
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| dhellmann | zul: :-( | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | do you know the background there? | 15:26 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: for a blueprint existence check you can probably rely on requests | 15:27 |
| ttx | but yeah, :/ | 15:27 |
| zul | dhellmann: no i dont, its a launchpad library, ttx would have a better clue who to talk to | 15:27 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, in order to use the lp api to get the list of projects in a project group, I was using launchpadlib anonymous login, but maybe I should just write a miniapi myself | 15:27 |
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| Osenpai | anyone have openstack running on ovh dedicated servers? | 15:31 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: that was actually simpler than I expected; new version posted that just uses requests | 15:46 |
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| zenpac | Sam-I-Am: Were you referring to the https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment yesterday? | 15:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | zenpac: yes | 16:27 |
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| zenpac | Sam-I-Am: thanks.. very nice. | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | da | 16:28 |
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| earnThis | if i have two NICs on one physical server and my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9443673/ why cant I do anything with eth1 i.e. ping the internet? this is an ubuntu server | 16:43 |
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| MilesDenver | earnThis: when you say you cannot to 'anything' what do you mean. I should think you may have some routing challenges with both systems in the same network | 16:46 |
| MilesDenver | route -n | 16:46 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: I can't ping anywhere and I ifup eth1. route -n output : http://paste.openstack.org/show/147996/ | 16:48 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: I can't ifup eth1 ** | 16:48 |
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| MilesDenver | earnThis: Mostly you don't want to NIC in the same IP space, unless you are bonding them together. You see that they are both in the same logical network, right? | 16:52 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: yea because the mask is the same | 16:54 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: what would be the best way to get them on separate logical networks? | 16:57 |
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| daniel3 | So, I noticed on devstack if I try and create volumes, once I surpass 10GB they error out. | 16:58 |
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| zenpac | Sam-I-Am: I'm going to use this reference network as the one to test against: http://tinypic.com/r/2qi30oz/8 | 16:59 |
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| zenpac | I've tried to include most of different network components that you would find in a heterogeneous OS env. | 17:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | zenpac: ok | 17:01 |
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| zenpac | Sam-I-Am: Will the public network need to be flat/shared, or other in order to be shared by multiple tenants? | 17:02 |
| MilesDenver | change the IP of one to be different. You've chosen a netmask that is a little challenging for my brain, but it's a /18 which means you need to start the next network at 192.168.64 or higher | 17:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | zenpac: it can be flat or vlan, but definitely shared | 17:02 |
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| earnThis | MilesDever: Would the netmask associated with the new IP address also change? Im guessing yes | 17:04 |
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| MilesDenver | earnThis: it doesn't have to… It just depends on how much network space you need. | 17:05 |
| MilesDenver | but leaving it the same would be give more that I typically need. What are you building? | 17:05 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: Openstack, I just need two networks one for the management network and one for an external network | 17:07 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: and of course each network associated with the two different NICs | 17:10 |
| MilesDenver | So, the management network seems enormous to me…. 16,000 nodes. | 17:10 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: Yea it definitely doesnt need to be that big at all. | 17:11 |
| MilesDenver | but, earhThis, with that said, those are private addresses and it's not a big deal to use alot. | 17:11 |
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| MilesDenver | google a CIDR / Subnet calculator. | 17:12 |
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| earnThis | MilesDenver: Yea the subnetting is definitely what I can't get my head around, can you tell haha | 17:12 |
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| MilesDenver | earnThis: best way to learn is probably someone who knows it and is patient. Most people don't understand it. | 17:18 |
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| kupo24z | Hey Sam-I-Am you around? | 17:27 |
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| nzrf | Is there a better way of updating used quotes other then directly edting the db. Semes the actual instance count does not match what is used out of the quota. had found https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/494/how-to-reset-incorrect-quota-count/ , but not quite what I was hoping for. | 17:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: mostly | 17:28 |
| kupo24z | any word on that additional external flat network on DVR? | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: sounds like you dont need multiple l3 agents | 17:29 |
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| kupo24z | sweet | 17:29 |
| kupo24z | just run the command again to add one like in your doc? | 17:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can only have one flat network per physical interface (because its layer 2), but you can have multiple subnets on that flat network | 17:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for multiple l2 networks, you'll need vlans or multiple physical interfaces | 17:30 |
| kupo24z | can the multiple subnets have different gateways? | 17:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think so | 17:31 |
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| kupo24z | i suppose its easy to test | 17:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its the equivalent of multiple IP ranges on the same interface | 17:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | what used to be called aliases | 17:32 |
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| kupo24z | Cool, ill try it out and see what works | 17:33 |
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| kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: Do i need to create a new router for the new subnet? | 18:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | not necessarily | 18:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | the router is owned by the tenant anyway (or should be) | 18:10 |
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| kupo24z | 'neutron router-gateway-set demo-router ext-net' should still work for the new subnet? | 18:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah... although i think there's a way to specify the subnet from which to generate that gw address (since it will pull from one of the ext-net subnet allocations) | 18:11 |
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| zenpac | I'm somewhat confused by "neutron net-create": when I create a vlan network, it wants a provider_physical_network var... Do I need to have real VLAN's define on my bridge (all-in-one setup) ? | 18:22 |
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| zenpac | I don't want to use my public network though; its already attached to physnet1.. Can I create another physnet2 for other vlan nets? | 18:26 |
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| kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: No luck on the new range, not pinging on the VM | 18:28 |
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| kupo24z | Nevermind, weird the first 10 or so dropped now its working | 18:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kupo24z: woot | 18:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | zenpac: net-create will tag for you (or should), but your switch needs to support those vlans | 18:31 |
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| zenpac | Ok, so I have to avoid VLANS since we have no support . | 18:31 |
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| zenpac | at least in our physical swites. | 18:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can have one flat network then | 18:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which uses the bridge_mappings option | 18:32 |
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| zenpac | My other private networks can be type local? | 18:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | on an all-in-one i think you can get away with that | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | but its not very practical | 18:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | they should be gre or vxlan | 18:37 |
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| zenpac | ok.. local offers no connex betwen vm's | 18:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | gre has been the trusty steed for a while, but vxlan is quickly replacing it | 18:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | up until recently vxlan had a lot of implementation issues | 18:42 |
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| Rivera_ | Is there a way to move set the order of tenant networks in the dashboard? They kind of appear in random order, I'd like to set them in a specific order | 19:05 |
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| larsks | Rivera_: It looks like they show up in the order in which they were created. | 19:29 |
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| larsks | But you can click on columns in /project/networks/ to sort by that column instead. | 19:29 |
| Rivera_ | larsks: Hmmm. I tried creating them in different orders to achieve a different result but no success. I can try again. | 19:30 |
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| larsks | That was based on a five second test, so I may be off base :) | 19:31 |
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| zenpac | On my Openstack bridged interface, br-ex, I have 10.0.0.0/24. Should I set my Public network in openstack to the same? | 20:24 |
| zenpac | Or should it be some subset of it that excludes br-ex? | 20:24 |
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| zenpac | It should be completely different... ? | 20:26 |
| MilesDenver | zenpac: my bridged interfaces has my Fixed IPs, but I'm running and older nova-network Flat DHCP n | 20:27 |
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| zenpac | I have an external DHCP that serves IP numbers in the correct restricted range. | 20:28 |
| zenpac | IE. DHCP serves up nmbers I want for floating IP's and such. | 20:29 |
| zenpac | And also for VM's that are on Public. | 20:29 |
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| MilesDenver | okay, but I still have no idea what you chosen architecture is? What version? | 20:30 |
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| MilesDenver | zenpac: http://docs.openstack.org/security-guide/content/ch031_neutron-architecture.html | 20:31 |
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| zenpac | MilesDenver: I'm running Packstack, on openstack-neutron-2014.2-11 openstack 2014-2-2 | 20:37 |
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| MilesDenver | I cannot really help with that, sorry | 20:38 |
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| hypnosb | takes care of that problem | 21:23 |
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