Tuesday, 2015-02-03

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supayswinn: may i pm?00:00
swinnsupay:sure00:00
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rtomIs there a point-of-contact for review.openstack.org Gerrit username issues?  I fat-fingered my username during registration and it does not match my Launchpad id.  Thanks all.00:05
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swinnit’s all managed by the infra team, they are on irc at #openstack-infra00:06
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rtomswinn: Thanks, I'll try to grab them there :)00:07
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kdavydswinn: this is the bug I was hitting, if it ever comes up here again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/141280200:17
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kdavydHorizon not really at fault; it's specific to glance+swift00:18
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swinnkdavyd: wow I wasn’t aware of that (pretty serious) bug, thanks for the heads up00:18
kdavydswinn: yup. In my case, hit it with Mirantis 6.0, which does glance+swift by default.00:19
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swinnkdavyd: I’m building out some training materials and would have hit that tomorrow myself, so good to know ;)00:20
kdavydand their default swift_store_large_object_size is 200Mb, of course.00:20
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yuzhgHello, anyone available for help here?  May I ask some questions about notification message?01:05
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swinnyuzhg: you can ask and I’ll try to help if I can01:27
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yuzhgThanks swinn, I'm trying to receive the keystone tenant create/delete notification message from a nova add-on service, is that possible?01:31
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swinnyuzhg: to be sure I understand, you would like to be notified when a tenant is created or deleted in keystone, correct?01:32
yuzhgyes01:32
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swinnthere are settings in the keystone.conf file where you can setup a notification driver and topic so that you can publish notifications01:34
swinnhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/event_notifications.html01:35
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yuzhgswinn: I debugged into the keystone code to https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/notify/notifier.py, and it seems the _notify() is called successfully, does that means the notification has been sent successfully?01:40
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swinnit should have been sent out successfully using the publisher and topic you specified, you might want to check in rabbitmqctl (assuming using rabbit) and see if the topic is listed01:42
swinnand if it has an incrementing number of messages01:42
swinnyou can see the topics using ‘rabbitmqctl list_queues -p <vhostpath>’ - you might need to sudo to run it01:43
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supay_swinn: hey, you there?01:55
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SamYaplehello all02:40
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larsksSamYaple: howdy.02:47
SamYaplehey larsks whats happening02:48
larsksRecovering from multiple hours of shoveling today :/02:48
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SamYapleWow, your company makes you shovel?02:48
larsksTravel ban, home all day.02:49
* larsks sings "Everyday I'm shovelin'..."02:49
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SamYapleThat is... those are words02:49
larsksA'yup.02:50
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supay_hey03:07
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supayhey hi03:08
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supayhas anybody here used this script with vagrant - https://github.com/OpenStackCookbook/OpenStackCookbook?03:08
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supayim getting errors.. :/03:08
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ndruGood evening, I'm working to implement a POC openstack environment. I've got two baremetal boxes which have been provisioned as controller(+network) and compute. I have a fundamental question regarding possibilities. Is it possible to have "external" (guest <-> physical network) communication without everything being tunneled through the network node?03:27
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ndruThis is juno and using neutron, btw.03:28
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supaycmon, OpenStackCookbook, nobody? :/03:32
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larsksndru: Neutron "provider networks" let you attach your instances directly to local physical networks.  Neutron in DVR mode also avoids having a single bottleneck (each compute host acts as a router for instances running on that host), although I have heard that DVR is not quite ready in the juno release.03:38
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ndrularsks: Ah, okay. So, that sounds good. Thank you.03:39
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supaylarsks: do you think you can help with my problem too? :(03:40
larskssupay: I'm not familiar with the openstackcookbook.03:40
larsksOr vagrant.03:40
supayaw damn :( okay03:40
supaythanks anyways03:40
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ndruI've had quite an adventure learning the nuances of ubuntu networking (formally a RHEL-fanboy) while trying to implement this proof of concept. Does anyone have any example interface files or resources regarding openstack-specific networking recommendations on Ubuntu? I feel silly for even asking.03:46
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larsksndru: Not me, I'm on Fedora.03:54
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Sam-I-Amndru: just an example /etc/network/interface file?04:11
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primechuckAside from configuration files, is there a different way to configure, some or all of the openstack services?  I.E.  Keystone entires or in the database for the processes?04:27
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SamYapleprimechuck: are you talking about just automating the installation?04:37
SamYapleor getting rid of config files?04:37
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primechuckThat would be the ultimate goal, but all I can find is templating the configs using various automation tools, which for some components seems fine and others it seems not so fine..04:40
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SamYapleprimechuck: theres nothing stopping your from storing those configs in a database and looking up and generating that config when the service starts/restarts04:42
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SamYapleas for openstack, its always going to require someconfig to tell it where to look for information04:42
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primechuckThat is kind of what I thought.  There are lots of ways to template, it just seems like an excess for work to generate dozens of config files with some fairly complex logic to make the templating work consistantly.04:46
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Sharath_1Hi , may i know which service will be running in the back ground to manage the services like which service when it need to be call ?04:53
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quantumHi! I use glusterFS for cinder backend. i have 2 compute node. How i can megrate instance witch boot-from-volume if first compute node fails?05:45
quantumif i change in mysql nova tables, update 'node1' to 'node2' this will be work?05:45
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jankihi05:47
jankii want to integrate openstack with ODL05:47
jankii have compute node05:47
jankicontrol node in openstack05:47
jankican anyone tell me what do i do next05:47
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yuzhgHi, Is there anyone familiar with the notification messages?06:01
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SVKDownload from localwebserver inside instance is very slow 1kbps ???06:51
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MadkissI am having a serious heat issue07:41
Madkissheat is hammering my neutron to the death07:41
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Madkissis there some sort of monitoring or something that heat does?07:42
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skoudeHi! About neutron networking.. Is it possible to use multiple VLANs for Public/Floating addresses (e. g. DMZ1 VLAN, DMZ2 VLAN and DMZ3 VLAN) ? We have 3 separated DMZ zones / subnets and we would need to use IP addresses from all of them as public addresses for VMs. All of the DMZ zones are also presented as separated VLANs from our Firewall to our core office switches07:56
skoudeIs this supported in Juno or in IceHouse07:56
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skoudeAlso what is the best way to backup virtual servers running on openstack to third location08:13
skoude?08:13
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QlawyCan availability zone name in nova has whitespace in it?08:33
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SamYapleskoude: traditional backup methods are the best way. there is no inherent openstack backup method.08:40
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quantumi enable api_v2 in cinder.conf and `cinder list` show ERROR: 'volumes'08:44
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quantumhow to fix?08:45
quantumin log: "GET /v1/...."08:45
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koolhead17ttx: around sir?09:03
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ttxkoolhead17: in meeting09:11
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st__Hi all!13:27
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st__ I have a problem and don't know where to seek for answer. We have a configuration of OpenStack over ceph with Glance (for images) and Cinder( for copy-on-write volumes attached to instances). Our main problem is that ceph is start to running out of place.  I can use rados to df for all usage status. I can see volumes through rdb and their maximum size, or even check by rados for how much object of that maximum is exist, but i would like to summary t13:28
st__hat data. We have over 400 instances with 1-2 volumes attached to it. Is there a way to gather a detailed information about all volumes and their size by some one magic command or dedicated tool for it? Thanks in advance for any help.13:28
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PanoHi folks13:39
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Syed_Hello Folks, I am seeing these  mysql aborted connections in logs, Aborted connection 84649 to db: 'glance' user: 'glance' host14:00
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Syed_Can anyone point me where should i look ?14:00
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quantumHi all!14:29
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quantumI use glusterFS for block storage and i created instance at boot-from-volume. How Can i backup all boot-volumes to other storage?14:30
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iowacorvidhow can i use vagrant boxes as images on openstack?  my google-fu is inadequate, everything that comes back is about using vagrant to deploy openstack instances14:56
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larsksiowacorvid: you would need to convert the vagrant box into a format understood by openstack (such as a raw disk image or a qcow2 image).15:01
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larsksiowacorvid: It looks as if https://github.com/sciurus/vagrant-mutate may be able to do that.  NB: I have never tried that myself; this is just based on what google tells me :)15:02
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iowacorvidlarsks: suspected that, thank you for the confirmation. checking out the vagrant-mutate link15:08
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openstacker01Using what protocol does OpenStack connects to provisioned VM. Is it based on ssh15:12
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larsksopenstacker01: can you clarify your question? *You* can connecto to an openstack provisioned vm using ssh, or any other service you have elected to run in your vm.15:13
quantumCan anyone say me how to install RAKSHA ?15:13
larsksopenstacker01: Console connections operate using VNC or SPICE.15:13
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wrackerI am getting very bad IO performance on the VMa15:15
wrackerVMs15:15
wrackerAny idea how to improve it?15:15
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larskswracker: Disk io? Network io?15:15
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wrackerlarsks: disk io15:16
wrackerIts a 7500 RPM hdd, and the system is pretty idle (90% cpu and RAM are free)15:16
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wrackerBut when I do a simple operation like chmod -R /var/lib/data.. it takes a very long time on the VM.. there are about 100+ files.. and the size isnt even a few gigabytes15:17
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openstacker01I am trying to understand what protocol is used by OpenStack to connect to provisioned VM. For ex: When I place a request for increase in disk space for a VM, while performing this task openstack will need to login to VM. So what protocol is used by openstack itself to connect to provisioned VM.15:18
larsksopenstacker01: openstack does not "log into" your vm when you add addtional disk space.15:18
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openstacker01any use-case where openstack needs to login to VM.15:18
larsksopenstacker01: yeah, openstack does not ever log in to your instances.15:18
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openstacker01ok15:19
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openstacker01so how the post provisioning configuration for HEAT and other orchestration is performed15:19
openstacker01how openstack talks with VM for installation of xyz software component using HEAT patterns.15:20
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larsksopenstacker01: For Heat, there are often agents installed on your vm (os-collect-config, etc) that call out to heat to pull in required information.15:20
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larsksopenstacker01: And even without heat, the "cloud-init" agent is commonly installed on hosts and will retrieve information from your openstack user-data which can include shell scripts and other config information.15:20
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larsksBut all of this involves your vm calling out to openstack, not openstack logging in to your vm.15:20
swinnopenstacker01: all of the services communicate with backend workers that do the heavy lifting for you - this is usually by talking to the hypervisor (kvm, esx, hyperv) to do things like create a vm, resize disk/memory etc15:20
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larskswracker: I'm not sure what to suggest, really.  There are some articles out there on KVM and disk performance that may be of interest.15:21
larskswracker: I haven't looked closely at the performance side of things.15:21
openstacker01One more question - How the cloud init talks with OpenStack to pull information15:21
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wrackerlarsks: i've gone thru them...since everything is largely idle.. this does not seem to be a hardware issue right?15:22
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larsksopenstacker01: cloud-init talks to either (a) the nova metadata service, or (b) reads information from an attached configuration drive.15:22
larsksTHe nova metadata service is available at http://169.254.169.254/ from inside an instance.15:22
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larsksopenstacker01: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_metadata-service.html15:23
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openstacker01so is this communication using SSL protocol15:23
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swinnopenstacker01: the wsgi server implementation used across projects supports http and https, you choose how its configured as the operator/admin15:24
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larsksopenstacker01: well, the metadata service is stricly over http:// (no https://), but it is internal to the openstack environment.15:24
swinnand as larsks said, metadata is only nonencrypted15:24
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openstacker01ok15:24
openstacker01Thank you15:24
openstacker01This information was very useful. :)15:25
swinnnothing in the public domain should ever route 169.254.x.x beyond its local gateway, so it’s fairly safe15:25
rnmAfternoon Guys, Anyone free for a Neutron HA query? (Pacemaker/corosync)15:25
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swinnrnm: I always try to answer if I can, feel free to ask15:28
saltlakechamps, anyone has any clues how to proceed with an openstack install after this step her https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/juju-quick-start.html. I can't believe wordpress is a necessary charm as per this link and there isn't any charm install of glance/nova etc etc15:28
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swinnsaltlake: that’s a link to how to get started with juju and Maas, not specific to openstack15:29
swinn“These instructions will help you deploy your first charm with Juju to a MAAS cluster”15:29
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swinnsaltlake: some good details here but far from a step by step guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA15:31
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saltlakeswinn: thanks .. for some reason in my head juju was to do with openstack.. I need to read up more on it!!15:32
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swinnMAAS is metal as a service. It’s bare metal management for servers. Juju lets you deploy application stacks to MAAS, those applications can be anything that a charm exists for.15:32
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saltlakeswinn: thanks15:33
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swinnOpenStack happens to be one of those charms. There’s 1200+ charms in the public domain.15:33
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saltlakeswinn: I guess I was looking for an openstack deplyement giude on the ubuntu site with juju or any other tool whatever.. but don't have a clue what others are using.15:36
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supayhey swinn! :D15:37
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wrackerWhen I create a VM, the default disk/filesystem seems to be on a file such as /var/openstack/nova/instances/043de456-b924-4c47-a47e-7c81f8b7472f/disk  on the host15:38
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larskswracker: That's correct.15:39
swinnwracker: that’s correct, the kvm (or qemu) hypervisor creates those for you15:39
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wrackerI read somewhere that when the filesystem is a file in the host, it can lead to slower access? The article suggests me to use block device for the  file system15:39
Martin8412That sounds right15:39
swinnwracker: for that you need to create a cinder volume server for the block storage service15:40
larskswracker: you can use the "boot from volume" feature to boot from a block device (e.g., create a cinder volume and boot from that).15:40
larskswracker: You could try sticking the instances/ directory on an SSD.15:40
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wrackerlarsks: my volume is actually a "device"15:40
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swinnwracker: you would then make an image bootable and then launch a VM from that block storage device. It will use block storage as the underlying file system.15:40
wrackerokay15:40
wrackerturning the instances directory an SSD was my last option.. but i wanted to see what i can get out of the HDD15:41
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wrackerSo perhaps using boot from volume where the volume is actually a block device in my host and not a file would improve things?15:41
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wrackerOf course if this works better in the HDD, i will make it an SSD15:42
swinnwracker: only if you’re using dedicated storage devices for block storage that is seperate from the OS and other processes running15:42
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larskswracker: Sure, possibly, assuming you have a performant cinder confguration.15:42
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larskslarsks: ...which is pretty much what swinn said :)15:42
* larsks is apparently talking to himself there. Whoops...15:42
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swinnwracker: I have customers running converged compute and block services but the system design makes sure that the OS and storage are on seperate drives and sometimes seperate controllers15:43
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bloofoohow long does a novnc session last? eg once someone accesses the URL, the token is dead and no one else can use it?15:43
wrackerswinn: yes its a dedicaded hdd on RAID0 (2 disks behind it, so its faster)15:43
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wrackerswinn: yes, this is actually my development setup (hence the RAID 0 for a bit more speed) - everything is "all in one", but the disks are in different devices15:44
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wrackerIs it easy to convert existing instances and make them boot from volume? Just take their snapshot i guess?15:46
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swinnwracker: theres a command line switch in cinder create that lets you use a glance image as the source15:48
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swinnwracker: so basically cinder create —image-id <$image_id> —name <$name> <$size_in_GB>15:49
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swinnthen nova boot has a similar switch to boot from a volume15:49
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swinnwracker: you can also snapshot the image and boot from that15:50
wrackerswinn: any way to move the existing instances to block storgage? The only way i see is take their snapshot.. then delete the instance.. and boot from the snapshot15:50
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wrackerswinn: thanks a lot for your help15:51
swinnwracker: np :)15:51
wrackerlarsks: thank you very much for your help too!15:51
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bloofooi'm trying to do a nova boot and keep getting this...any pointers?   "ERROR: <type 'NoneType'> can't be decoded"16:06
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Syed_Hello Folks, I am seeing these mysql aborted connections in logs, Aborted connection 84649 to db: 'glance' user: 'glance' host.16:14
Syed_Has anyone seen these before ?16:14
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larsksSyed_: are those showing up in your glance logs? Or in your mysql logs?16:14
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Syed_larsks: mysql logs.16:15
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larsksSyed_: Hmm.  Are there any corresponding errors in your glance logs?  I think you can see that if the db client were to crash...16:16
Syed_larsks: I am quiet sure this is a mysql issue. I am using mariadb with galera.16:16
larsksSyed_: For what it's worth, I'm using mariadb/galera also (on rhel 7), and it seems to be working.16:16
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Syed_larsks: Yes, it's working for me also. But the problem is that keystone authentication is failing 5 out of 8 times.16:18
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Syed_larsks: Everything looks fine from keystone side. I am using active/active config with uuid token provider.16:19
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_nickSyed_: maybe you're hitting the limit for the number of concurrent sessions?16:19
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cinderellagood evening to everyone16:22
cinderellaI'm having problems with cinder16:22
cinderellaI'm able to create volumes up to 1 gb of space16:22
cinderellabut when I exceed this 1 GB, I get errors16:22
cinderellait's not a free space problem16:22
Syed__nick: I have max_connections=100 set.16:23
_nickSyed_: iirc the default is pretty low for mariadb, i had to up ours to 1000 fairly early on16:23
cinderellacan anybody help me?16:23
_nickSyed_: i'd definitely up that limit16:24
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supayanybody knows how to get this script working on Windows? :/16:25
supayhttps://github.com/OpenStackCookbook/OpenStackCookbook16:25
supayi've kinda followed all the steps, there isn't much to it..16:26
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supayi thought some previous config was messing with the script, so i formatted the pc, reinstalled windows + virtualbox + vagrant + git and it still gives me errors and doesn't work.16:26
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supayany help would be greatly appreciated16:26
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Syed__nick: Changed it to '1000'. Still no cigars.16:29
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_nickSyed_: did you restart mysqld ?16:29
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Syed__nick: No. I updated the variable in the db itself ?16:30
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_nickset global max_connections i assume?16:31
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Syed__nick: Yes.16:33
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Syed__nick: Also restarting mysql server.16:33
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Syed__nick: mysqld: 150203 11:35:21 [Warning] Aborted connection 242 to db: 'glance' user: 'glance' host: 'x-x-x-x' (Unknown error)16:36
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_nickSyed_: anything between your clients and mariadb?16:37
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_nickSyed_: anything in the client logs that might give you something else to go on?16:37
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Syed__nick: client is not logging anything. I wonder how to enable client side logging.16:43
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_nickSyed_: take a look at the logging options and their comments in /etc/glance/glance-{api,registry}.conf16:46
_nickthen restart those components and see if that catches anything interesting16:46
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_nickotherwise i'd be tcpdumping on your mariadb server to try and discover what's causing the connection problems16:46
_nickfrom what you've described it's affecting other services as well, i.e keystone16:46
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Syed__nick: Yes. It is affecting all services keystone, nova, neutron. The request from the client goes to the vip of the loadbalancer and then laod balncer forwards the request to mysql nodes.16:48
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_nickSyed_ : and what's the timeout on your loadbalancer set to?16:48
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_nickSyed_: if the timeout on your loadbalancer is < than the idle_timeout value in your client configuration, then you'll see that problem16:49
Syed__nick: contimeout 5000, clitimeout 50000, srvtimeout 5000016:50
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Syed__nick: thread_pool_idle_timeout is 6016:52
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_nickSyed_: maxconns ?16:54
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Syed_max_connections = 100016:55
neoiceI want to contribute a bug report to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder but the login page is failing.16:55
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Syed__nick: max_connections = 100016:55
_nickSyed_: i mean in haproxy16:55
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Syed__nick: Sorry, maxconn 4000.16:56
_nickSyed_: and what's idle_timeout set to in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf for example?16:56
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Syed__nick: default, i.e. 360016:58
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_nickSyed_: nothing else springs to mind then, next steps would be to increase logging on clients and then start using tcpdump to see what's going on with your connections16:58
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Syed__nick: Thanks anyway !! Lets see if tcpdump can point out the issue.17:01
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_nickSyed_: i'd look very closely at your haproxy configuration, i've been bitten by that sort of thing in the past17:01
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stevenldt_Does anyone know the info needed for joining an Openstack meeting using IRC client? server name, port, etc.18:36
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clarkbstevenldt_: its on freenode so just /join #openstack-meeting18:39
clarkbstevenldt_: you are already connected to the correct network18:39
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stevenldt_clarkb: I wonder if it's possible to use an IRC client. I don't see configuration info on wiki.18:42
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clarkbstevenldt_: https://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml should cover connecting to freenode18:43
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sampeiiiciao18:44
sampeiii!list18:44
openstacksampeiii: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, Services, and User18:44
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stevenldt_clarkb: Thx. That's what I need.18:47
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saranjanWhen is the organizing community sending ATC passes?19:36
clarkbsaranjan: the first round went out a couple weeks ago. I think there will be at least one more set sent later but unsure of when that is19:37
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saranjan@clarkb : thanks for the info, I commited in jan end, Would I get the pass for Vancouver summit?19:42
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clarkbyes if you got a commit merged in january an invite thing should be sent to you during the next round19:42
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saranjanCool. Thanks :)19:42
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qhartmanI have my nova api service running on a multi-homed box and all my api stuff works from one network and not the other, despite all the services listening on every IP.23:54
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qhartmanI think it's because the  initial response I get from keystone after I auth includes a bunch of API endpoint information that is for the interface on the other network23:55
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qhartmanIs there any way I can config that so it returns the right IP based on where the request comes from, or do I just have to do the config with DNS names and rely on DNS resolution to make it get to the right place?23:55
Sam-I-Amqhartman: load balancer?23:57
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