KaZeR | yes correct | 00:00 |
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KaZeR | so, my instance has ip 10.0.1.19 with this default route : 0.0.0.0 10.0.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 | 00:02 |
KaZeR | 10.0.1.0 is the network of my tenant | 00:02 |
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KaZeR | from this instance, i can reach 172.16.132.2 ( which is the router ip if i'm not mistaken ). i can see this ip in the namespace of the router on the controller | 00:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | so... | 00:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats the output of 'ovs-vsctl show' and 'ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-ex' and 'ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-int' on both nodes? | 00:05 |
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KaZeR | controller : http://ix.io/gxy | 00:08 |
KaZeR | compute : http://ix.io/gxz | 00:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: how about ovs-ofctl show br-ex and br-int | 00:14 |
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KaZeR | compute : http://pastebin.com/DtDkxyFL | 00:14 |
KaZeR | controller : http://pastebin.com/LiQdiux2 | 00:15 |
Sam-I-Am | so this 505... that was specified in a network you created? | 00:15 |
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KaZeR | that is the vlan id for my tenant. automatically picked up from the range | 00:16 |
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KaZeR | mmm. could this be an issue with how i created the public vlan ? | 00:16 |
X123 | if you want to use one nic, using vlans is best | 00:16 |
X123 | then specifying the vlan interface in ovs like it's a physical int | 00:17 |
Sam-I-Am | you tried to specify vlan 501 or 502, and it didn't work? | 00:17 |
X123 | for the tenant network you'd have to specify the main interface and not the subint | 00:17 |
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X123 | and then tag the vlan in ovs, or create subinterfaces on the machine and specify those in ovs | 00:17 |
KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: no i did not specify the vlans. 501 and 502 are intended as public, 503 is reserved for ceph | 00:17 |
X123 | or you can let ovs handle all the interfaces in the machine | 00:17 |
Sam-I-Am | how did you create ext-net? | 00:17 |
KaZeR | X123: not sure i understood everything | 00:18 |
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KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: neutron net-create public-132 -- --router:external=True; neutron subnet-create --allocation-pool start=$start,end=$end public-132 $range -- --enable_dhcp=False | 00:18 |
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KaZeR | damn it the vlan provider part is missing | 00:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:19 |
Sam-I-Am | that | 00:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | this is fun huh | 00:19 |
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KaZeR | neutron net-create public-132 --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1 --router:external=True --provider:segmentation_id 501 | 00:19 |
KaZeR | right ? | 00:19 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:19 |
KaZeR | ok thanks | 00:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | did it work? | 00:28 |
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KaZeR | instance is booting right now | 00:34 |
KaZeR | i had a glitch in my port deletion :) | 00:34 |
KaZeR | mmm. same results as far as i can tell. i'll post updated ovs-vsctl show | 00:35 |
KaZeR | compute : http://ix.io/gxA and controller: http://ix.io/gxB | 00:36 |
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nagromlt | ne1 on? | 00:36 |
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KaZeR | ne1 ? | 00:38 |
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KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: controller ovs-vsctl flow : http://ix.io/gxC and compute : http://ix.io/gxD | 00:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | hmm | 00:40 |
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KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: i would expect to be able to reach the vlan gateway from the router namespace, no ? | 00:45 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 00:45 |
Sam-I-Am | whats missing is the vlan tag for 501 | 00:45 |
Sam-I-Am | i only see 504, which is the tenant network | 00:45 |
KaZeR | indeed | 00:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | somewhere, when you create this network, is an error | 00:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | probably in the ovs agent on one of the nodes | 00:46 |
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KaZeR | network_vlan_ranges is only used for dynamic allocation right ? 501 does not need to be in this range since we specify it, am i correct ? | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | i think it needs to be in that range | 00:46 |
KaZeR | i have /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini:network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:504:554 | 00:47 |
X123 | not if it's flat | 00:47 |
Sam-I-Am | X123: vlan external and tenant networks here | 00:47 |
X123 | ah | 00:47 |
Sam-I-Am | all using br-ex | 00:47 |
X123 | i use flat external specifying the vlan subint on the host os | 00:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | X123: thats the other option | 00:47 |
X123 | basically does the same thing just easier to deal with | 00:47 |
KaZeR | X123: i think it sounds like what i intended to do actually | 00:47 |
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KaZeR | wait actually i'd like to get one vlan per tenant, not sure if your suggestion would allow this. would it ? | 00:48 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats a policy you can set, iirc | 00:49 |
Sam-I-Am | rather, a quota | 00:49 |
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KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: want me to change the range and restart the services ? | 00:50 |
Sam-I-Am | i'd try that... although you can confirm the issue by looking for errors in the neutron server logs and/or ovs agent logs. | 00:50 |
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KaZeR | mmm i see no ERR message in the last past hour | 00:53 |
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KaZeR | no WARN in the last hour of ovs-agent | 00:54 |
Sam-I-Am | neutron server logs? | 00:54 |
KaZeR | last error was the nova notification two hours ago | 00:54 |
KaZeR | mmm | 00:55 |
KaZeR | 2015-02-24 16:45:42.114 1640 WARNING keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token [-] Authorization failed for token | 00:55 |
KaZeR | 2015-02-24 16:45:42.115 1640 WARNING keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token [-] Authorization failed for token | 00:55 |
nagromlt | weak | 00:55 |
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KaZeR | that's the only warnings of the last hour | 00:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok | 00:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont have a OVS system to test this on right now | 00:58 |
Sam-I-Am | only linuxbridge, which wont help | 00:59 |
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KaZeR | ok. i'll try to change the range. excepted restarting the services, is there any step required ? | 01:00 |
Sam-I-Am | shouldnt be | 01:01 |
KaZeR | ok | 01:01 |
Sam-I-Am | i need food | 01:01 |
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KaZeR | i can buy you a pizza :) | 01:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | haha | 01:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: btw, in juno i think you still need 'network_vlan_ranges' in [ovs] | 01:33 |
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KaZeR | in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini ? | 01:35 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:35 |
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KaZeR | ok. currently it's in [ml2_type_vlan] | 01:35 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, it needs to be there too | 01:35 |
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KaZeR | ok adding it. so we need to add it to both sections? | 01:36 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 01:37 |
KaZeR | ok | 01:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you also fix the range? | 01:38 |
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KaZeR | i did, restarted the service, but still no sign of vlan 501 | 01:39 |
Sam-I-Am | you'd have to re-create the network | 01:39 |
Sam-I-Am | (delete the old one first) | 01:39 |
KaZeR | ok trying it now | 01:39 |
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KaZeR | i recreated the public net. only relevant log found so far : 2015-02-24 17:48:33.341 1692 INFO neutron.plugins.ml2.db [req-70929541-bbb7-4e8c-a09b-5e75a95a41ca None] Added segment a50a71ca-b590-46b2-aaa1-48e18d2e4739 of type vlan for network a432d30b-10a4-44cd-b885-94a4525e684a | 01:49 |
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KaZeR | nothing in my ovs-log, but i guess it's expected | 01:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok | 01:49 |
Sam-I-Am | the ovs agent log has nothing? | 01:50 |
Sam-I-Am | do you have verbose=true in your neutron.conf file? | 01:50 |
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KaZeR | when spinning up an instance in the freshly created network i do see the 502 vlan : 2015-02-24 17:51:36.693 2621 INFO neutron.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [-] Port bc451bfe-2fa6-4b7e-8043-b6ad40f64fdb updated. Details: {u'admin_state_up': True, u'network_id': u'e32286c7-4268-4506-9dd0-da95961ab736', u'segmentation_id': 502, u'physical_network': u'physnet1', u'device': u'bc451bfe-2fa6-4b7e-8043-b6ad40f64fdb', | 01:53 |
KaZeR | u'port_id': u'bc451bfe-2fa6-4b7e-8043-b6ad40f64fdb', u'network_type': u'vlan'} | 01:53 |
KaZeR | still no sign of 501 as far as i can tell | 01:53 |
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KaZeR | verbose is set to true, indeed | 01:53 |
KaZeR | the only reference to 501 in neutron-server.log is INFO neutron.plugins.ml2.drivers.type_vlan [-] Network VLAN ranges: {'physnet1': [(501, 554)]} | 01:54 |
Sam-I-Am | hmm | 01:54 |
Sam-I-Am | whats the output of ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-ex again? | 01:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | also what network-create command were you using for both the ext and tenant networks? | 01:55 |
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KaZeR | http://ix.io/gxJ | 01:57 |
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KaZeR | public net/subnet creation : http://ix.io/gxK | 01:57 |
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KaZeR | for the tenant network, it boils down to http://ix.io/gxL | 01:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | this is weird | 02:02 |
Sam-I-Am | i wonder if there's some issue with br-ex being used for both things | 02:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | you should create another bridge like br-vlan, and a mapping for it, and create your tenant net there... then create the ext net on the original bridge. | 02:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | you dont need to plug anything into br-vlan, its just to try something (it wont work, but the flows will be there) | 02:03 |
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KaZeR | what do you call a mapping ? | 02:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | bridge_mappings | 02:05 |
Sam-I-Am | in ml2_conf.ini | 02:05 |
Sam-I-Am | so you'd have two... physnet1:br-ex,physnet2:br-tenant or something | 02:05 |
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KaZeR | ok trying that thanks | 02:06 |
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KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: is there a way to manually add the missing vlan? | 02:41 |
Sam-I-Am | no | 02:41 |
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KaZeR | ok. too bad :) | 02:41 |
Sam-I-Am | have to figure out why neutron isn't doing it | 02:41 |
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KaZeR | " create your tenant net there" : mmm | 03:00 |
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KaZeR | i did not specify on which bridge to create the previous tenant's network | 03:00 |
KaZeR | should i have specified --provider:physical_network physnet1 for the tenant network before ? | 03:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | generally yes | 03:01 |
KaZeR | ok. do you think this could be my issue ? i mean, is it worth trying to recreate the tenant network with vlan parameters ? | 03:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | you could try it | 03:04 |
KaZeR | i just need "--provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1" nothing else ? | 03:05 |
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KaZeR | ok i tried, and you also need to specify the vlan id. i picked 510, which shows up in the flow cookie=0x0, duration=131.687s, table=0, n_packets=42, n_bytes=4693, idle_age=2, priority=4,in_port=2,dl_vlan=3 actions=mod_vlan_vid:510,NORMAL | 03:19 |
KaZeR | but still no 501 | 03:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | hmm | 03:22 |
Sam-I-Am | well, i cant help anymore tonight | 03:22 |
Sam-I-Am | i need to talk to some people about this problem | 03:22 |
KaZeR | no worries i understand | 03:23 |
KaZeR | thanks a lot | 03:23 |
Sam-I-Am | its a config issue or a bug | 03:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | wonder what happens if you choose 501 without routerexternal=true | 03:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | anyway, i'm completely bombed out for the night | 03:23 |
Sam-I-Am | its been a long day | 03:23 |
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KaZeR | ok. i'll try to recreate without the external router | 03:24 |
KaZeR | thanks a lot, have a good evening! | 03:24 |
Sam-I-Am | if you have 501 and 510 in the range, and 501 doesnt work, but 510 does... thats about the only difference in the net-create, no? | 03:24 |
KaZeR | indeed | 03:24 |
KaZeR | i wonder if i should have used shared=true for public-123 | 03:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | oh, try that. i think i missed that | 03:26 |
KaZeR | ok trying now | 03:26 |
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KaZeR | mmm | 03:32 |
KaZeR | i don't see a change in flows | 03:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | was this with --shared? | 03:33 |
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KaZeR | yes | 03:34 |
Sam-I-Am | and router external? | 03:34 |
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KaZeR | neutron net-create public-132 --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1 --router:external=True --provider:segmentation_id 501 --shared | 03:34 |
KaZeR | r | 03:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | for fun, what happens if you do this without the seg id? | 03:34 |
KaZeR | for the public one ? | 03:35 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:35 |
KaZeR | 400-{u'NeutronError': {u'message': u'Invalid input for operation: segmentation_id required for VLAN provider network.', u'type': u'InvalidInput', u'detail': u''}} | 03:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | now, without router external and shared, does it work without a seg id? | 03:36 |
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KaZeR | nop, same error ( command was neutron net-create public-133 --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1 ) | 03:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | what about using... vlan 520 or something? | 03:37 |
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KaZeR | for public? good idea... | 03:39 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:39 |
Sam-I-Am | kind of stabbing in the dark right now | 03:39 |
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bigpup | larks are around | 03:40 |
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KaZeR | mmm. i only see vlan 510 in ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-ex | 03:45 |
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KaZeR | if i create another tenant, i do get another vlan in the flow. but no vlan related to the public nets ( i have two of them right now ) | 03:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: ok, at least that narrows it down | 04:00 |
Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: you have a separate admin and user tenant, right? | 04:00 |
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KaZeR | yes | 04:00 |
Sam-I-Am | aight. well, enough for today from me. | 04:01 |
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KaZeR | thanks again | 04:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | np | 04:02 |
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naman | I got a [ERROR] /opt/stack/devstack/lib/nova:707 nova-api did not start while installing devstack on compute node | 05:26 |
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prometheanfire | anyone using ovs and can run something for me? | 05:47 |
prometheanfire | I need to check possible netiface enumeration techniques for a review | 05:47 |
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prometheanfire | I need someone that currently has ovs interfaces to check the content of /sys/class/net and also check the output of the glibc function if_nameindex | 05:48 |
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prometheanfire | the code for the glibc function is in man if_nameindex, if you don't trust me | 05:48 |
prometheanfire | :D | 05:48 |
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iwilson | larsks: ping (if you're not too busy) | 06:04 |
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Akshik | help require configuring shibbloeth with keystone | 06:37 |
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akl_ | Hello , where do I make changes in cloud-init ? I see a cloud-config.txt file , but it is always empty even when i run cloud-init , i'm not able to figure it out :/ | 06:39 |
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akl_ | or is it like it like i have to edit in etc / cloud . cloud.cfg ? | 06:39 |
Akshik | when i call /Shibboleth.sso/Login, im getting No MetadataProvider available. | 06:40 |
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akl_ | Hello , where do I make changes in cloud-init ? I see a cloud-config.txt file , but it is always empty even when i run cloud-init , i'm not able to figure it out :/ | 06:55 |
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KaZeR | prometheanfire: i have ovs running i'd be happy to help | 07:31 |
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prometheanfire | KaZeR: ohai | 07:34 |
prometheanfire | can you run man if_nameindex | 07:34 |
prometheanfire | the code is in the example | 07:34 |
prometheanfire | I want to verify that all your ovs interfaces show up in that list | 07:34 |
prometheanfire | also, show up in /sys/class/net | 07:34 |
prometheanfire | also, show up in ip -o -d link show | 07:35 |
prometheanfire | I'm working on a changeset that fixes device enumeration in neutron and it's failing with ovs | 07:35 |
prometheanfire | no idea why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154128/17 | 07:35 |
KaZeR | prometheanfire: mmm No manual entry for if_nameindex | 07:35 |
prometheanfire | ok, well, if you trust my paste :P | 07:35 |
KaZeR | :) | 07:35 |
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prometheanfire | https://bpaste.net/show/826df39ce851 | 07:36 |
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prometheanfire | gcc that and run it | 07:36 |
KaZeR | all my interfaces do show up in /sys/class/net | 07:36 |
prometheanfire | all of them that are in ovs-vsctl show as well? | 07:36 |
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KaZeR | all of them excepted tap* and qr* | 07:38 |
prometheanfire | do those missing ones show up in 'ip -o -d link show' ? | 07:39 |
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KaZeR | http://pastebin.com/Ekt22NY8 | 07:39 |
KaZeR | no they don't show up there either | 07:40 |
prometheanfire | ok | 07:40 |
prometheanfire | KaZeR: dunno how familiar you are with the code, but can you see anything wrong with it? | 07:40 |
KaZeR | but isn't it related to a namespace ? | 07:40 |
prometheanfire | shouldn't be | 07:41 |
prometheanfire | I need to make sure the list generted my ip is all in /sys/class/net | 07:41 |
prometheanfire | my patch handles that for interfaces too | 07:41 |
prometheanfire | namespaces | 07:41 |
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KaZeR | mmm | 07:46 |
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prometheanfire | ya | 07:48 |
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prometheanfire | KaZeR: salv-orlando seems to have found the problem | 07:53 |
KaZeR | oh? what was it ? | 07:53 |
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prometheanfire | http://logs.openstack.org/28/154128/17/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/ef56f87/logs/screen-q-vpn.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 07:55 |
prometheanfire | rootwrap errors | 07:55 |
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KaZeR | wow that's a lot of errors :) | 08:09 |
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prometheanfire | well, new review | 08:17 |
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Club420 | hi everyone. i want to create an image via the terminal. i uploaded a vmdk file via scp. when i try "glance image-create ... " i get the following info : You must provide a username via either --os-username or env[OS_USERNAME] what does it mean? | 08:19 |
jagter | Club420: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-client-environment-scripts.html | 08:20 |
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Club420 | jagter: do you know where i can find this file in devstack? i try some things on devstack for testing/presentation purposes | 08:24 |
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Club420 | jagter: ha, ok i just figured it out by myself. i had to specify the source: source openrc admin admin | 08:32 |
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tenaglia | hi all | 08:52 |
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luminghu353 | how to install openstack on centos source installed | 08:56 |
luminghu353 | somebody help me ? thks | 08:56 |
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Club420 | help. i try to create a image with glance. i get the following output in devstack. i do this via terminal: 500 internal server error failed to upload image | 08:59 |
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Club420 | help. i try to create a image with glance. i get the following output in devstack. i do this via terminal: 500 internal server error failed to upload image | 09:12 |
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SamYaple | Club420: there is something wrong on the server side. check the glance logs | 09:24 |
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Club420 | SamYaple: where can i check them in devstack? | 09:25 |
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benwh4 | hello everyone ! | 09:32 |
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benwh4 | I wonder why there is no more debian install guide for openstack ? | 09:33 |
SamYaple | benwh4: it was removed recently | 09:33 |
SamYaple | the arguments were that it was to difficult to maintain | 09:33 |
benwh4 | and is there an article which explain why ? | 09:33 |
benwh4 | O_o | 09:34 |
benwh4 | ok | 09:34 |
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SamYaple | there has been discussion on IRC and other places, I dont know of one central source. ill check the commit for it | 09:34 |
joystick_ | Hi! I would like to start with openstack. Is it possible to start with one physical server and then add more physical servers? | 09:35 |
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SamYaple | benwh4: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157037/ | 09:35 |
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SamYaple | thats teh removal, no explaination though | 09:35 |
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SamYaple | benwh4: for the record, I was against removal :( | 09:36 |
SamYaple | #openstack-doc.2015-01-14.log-14:04 < zigo> annegentle_: Please note that it is still my opinion that the Debian specific part should *NOT* be removed, especially after all the work that has been done. | 09:36 |
SamYaple | #openstack-doc.2015-01-14.log:14:21 < SamYaple> zigo: I will agree with you on that | 09:36 |
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SamYaple | joystick_: you can certainly do that. | 09:37 |
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benwh4 | SamYaple: thx | 09:37 |
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Club420 | SamYaple: or can i set in glance image-create -verbose for showing output where it fails? because i have not configured log files in devstack | 09:46 |
SamYaple | As the error says, it is an "internal server error", you will need to view the logs to gather more information | 09:46 |
SamYaple | devstack might be logging to stdout somewhere, though I am not familiar with it | 09:47 |
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Club420 | thats what i am trying to figure out right now, because i cant find any log | 09:49 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: Thanks! :) When I add second physical server and want its compute, storage and network to join the first one what steps should I follow? | 10:03 |
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SamYaple | joystick_: well if it was presiouvly setup and working then you would only need to setup the configs to point to the first server (more sepcifically your database) | 10:09 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: Ok, and second (third, next ...) node will build up cloud based on config from first server, right? | 10:11 |
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SamYaple | yes joystick_, the configs are the only piece that ties everytihng together. just make sure that is correct and you can grow it out as large as youd like | 10:13 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: Sounds cool :) Can you tell me please if I have a subnet of 8 public IP from ISP and then get another block of 16 public IP I can just register 2 (or more) networks in the configuration, right? And they will be available to VMs? | 10:53 |
SamYaple | no joystick_. It wont work like that | 10:53 |
SamYaple | External networking is a source of pain right now for neutron. but there is a few ways around it | 10:53 |
SamYaple | A good way is to do a "double-nat" | 10:54 |
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SamYaple | essentially you give your external network a large block of private addresses and then you nat upstream your public addresses to those private ones | 10:54 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: Good to know that! :) Should I have a virtual firewall in front of cloud? | 11:00 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: Why you call it "double-nat" ? | 11:16 |
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SamYaple | because you would be natting public->private->private | 11:16 |
SamYaple | assuming you used floating ips | 11:16 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: I see :) public -> externa -> VM IP, correct? | 11:21 |
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SamYaple | correct joystick_ | 11:23 |
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joystick_ | But this in 1-to-1 mapping (just rewriting IP) | 11:24 |
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SamYaple | Im not sure what that last sentence means, can you rephrase it? | 11:25 |
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joystick_ | 1 public IP is mapped to 1 external IP which in turn mapped to 1 internal IP | 11:28 |
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joystick_ | there's no "masquearading" involved, right? | 11:29 |
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SamYaple | joystick_: correct | 11:32 |
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SamYaple | thats the way i recommend it because you can expand the avilable ips in the neutron subnet as you grow your external ips | 11:32 |
SamYaple | plus, this means your external ips don't need to be in one contiguos block | 11:33 |
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joystick_ | SamYaple: Thanks for great info, time to try it on :) | 12:10 |
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exed_ | anyone experiencing issue with the dhcp agent in 1:2014.1.3-0ubuntu1~cloud0? networks/subnet created correctly dhcp is enabled and the serivce runs but neither the net namespace nor the dnsmasq will be created/spawned. | 12:36 |
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SamYaple | exed_: they wont be until they are needed (try launching an instance) | 12:45 |
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Club420 | hey guys ... what would be the preferred container-format in glance to upload a vmdk container. (created in virtualbox and uploaded via scp) i had serveral 500 internal server errors, but i think i just choose a bad container format.... | 12:53 |
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Club420 | i used BARE as container format, but that didnt work | 12:54 |
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exed_ | SamYaple: thats what we did. actually we have a couple of installation running in production but this behavior is super strange. as i said even the qdhcp net namespace won’t be created, no errors int he logs nothing. | 12:55 |
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SamYaple | Club420: as I said before that is an internal error, it most likely has nothing to do with your container format choice. Youll need to have debug and verbose on if the logs aren't telling you anything meningful | 12:57 |
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SamYaple | exed_: is this a multinode environment? two dhcp agents? | 12:57 |
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exed_ | SamYaple: exactly active/passive network node so far with only one dhcp agent configured per network. any ideas? | 12:58 |
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SamYaple | are your instances are still getting ips? | 12:59 |
exed_ | no they don’t get IPs | 13:00 |
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exed_ | what do you have in mind because you directly metnioned multi node setup? any ideas? | 13:01 |
Club420 | SamYaple: i asked you before if i can verbose somehow but u didnt response ... i have no clue how to verbose glance image-create to tell me where it fails.... i am a noob devstack user so... | 13:01 |
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SamYaple | Club420: you need to enable verbose and debug on the server side, not client. As I said before, I don't know devstack to help you with devstack. With actual openstack logs I can help you | 13:02 |
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SamYaple | exed_: i have seen that before in multinode environments, but only when there were 2 agents or the agents were failed over by some other utility | 13:03 |
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Club420 | i am only on the server.. devstack runs on the server. do you know someone who knows how to deal with devstack? | 13:03 |
SamYaple | exed_: when restarting dhcp on one node it wouldn't repopulate the namespaces for a period of time | 13:03 |
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SamYaple | Club420: my understanding is devstack spawns a ton of screens, so you can probably attach to those and see the logs that are most likely outputing to stdout | 13:04 |
exed_ | SamYaple: period of time i assume less than 24h right? (: | 13:05 |
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SamYaple | indeed. Ill be completely honest, I tracked this issue down once and am completely spacing on why it did that, but there were reasons. Was this environment working before? | 13:06 |
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exed_ | no. testing environment we setup new | 13:06 |
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exed_ | also checked the changelog of the last 3 releases incl. all dhcp bugfixes for the changes between the last stable version running on the testlab. | 13:07 |
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exed_ | a few changed on the IPdevice manager as well as metadate per dhcp configs but nothing that would explain the behavior we see. | 13:07 |
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SamYaple | exed_: just asked a colleague, he remembers the issue. Do you have any dnsmasq processes running related to openstack? | 13:08 |
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exed_ | SamYaple: what do you mean related ot openstack? on the nodes itself there is no dnsmasq running at all . | 13:09 |
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SamYaple | can you check the logs for dnsmasq related entries? | 13:10 |
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exed_ | we already checked the syslog for dnsmasq nohting. the only thing we can see on debug level is that the dhcp agent runs the dnsmasq —version to check if it is >= 2.59 without any errors | 13:11 |
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Madkiss | err. all openstack's nova-compute is telling me is 'Exception during message handling: Endpoint does not support RPC version 3.33' | 13:14 |
Madkiss | all nova components on all hosts have the same version number | 13:14 |
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exed_ | SamYaple: what problem did you colleague discover wiht dnsmasq? | 13:21 |
SamYaple | exed_: when restarting the dhcp-agent then dnsmasq processes didn't terminate but the namespaces got canned. It would fail to recreate the namespaces after that until the dnsmasq processes were killed | 13:22 |
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exed_ | SamYaple: same behavior as in grizzly than. no there is no dnsmasq running neither another dhcp. we also grep’d all logs for dnsmasq/dhcp/… entries nothing except the debug output for the version. | 13:23 |
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exed_ | SamYaple: do you have any other tips/ideas/… where i could look into? | 13:56 |
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tenaglia | bogdando: is the Fuel fencing plugin you develop (https://github.com/bogdando/fuel-plugins/tree/fencing_puppet_newprovider/ha_fencing) intended for fencing whole compute nodes, or also instances? | 13:58 |
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bogdando | tenglia, currently it covers only controller infrastructure nodes since Fuel puts them in pacemaker cluster | 14:05 |
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bogdando | tenaglia, Although, the idea is good. But AFAIK Corosync has some 50 or 100+ nodes scaling issues, at least when using unicast | 14:06 |
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bogdando | tenaglia, so I'm not sure either should one put his computes in Pacemaker cluster | 14:07 |
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bogdando | tenaglia, please, note that new repository for plugin is at stackforge, https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-plugin-ha-fencing. My github fork is kind of an obsolete for now | 14:11 |
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zerda | I wonder what term is more valid now, "tenant" or "project"? I saw the note in admin guide about "tenant" but just want to be sure | 14:14 |
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club420 | hi fellas, how should i configure keystone, so that i can upload/create images (15gb vmdk file) with glance. i get an 500 internal error because of that. | 14:19 |
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tenaglia | bogdando: OK thanks. I was more interested in pacemaker+corosync for VMs | 14:24 |
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georgem1 | club420: where is the error coming from? probably not from keystone but from glance | 14:33 |
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georgem1 | and don't upload the image using the dashboard, use the glance CLI | 14:34 |
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club420 | georgeml: actually i did it only over CLI, because i tried it over the dashboard already and it fails. and over the CLI the error came back in html: 500 internal server error. so i started the same command with --debug | 14:36 |
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club420 | and the output was as following: request returned failure status 500 ... *different types of python2.7/glanceclient fails* shell.py, images.py, http.py | 14:37 |
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larsks | club420: look in the service logs; you'll probably find more useful error messages there than you get from the client side. | 14:42 |
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club420 | larsks: i use devstack and there are no service logs. the only logs i can find are the recorded ones from ubuntu. i am since todays morning trying to figure out why it fails. and the only thing i can imagine is that its because of the sice of >10gb | 14:43 |
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larsks | devstack runs services in screen; if nothing else, you can view the service logs in the appropriate screen window. | 14:44 |
larsks | You can configure devstack to save logs on disk, too; I don't know if it does that by default or not. | 14:44 |
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club420 | in the local.conf is already set that the logs should be saved in stack.sh.log ... but this log is not saved anywhere | 14:45 |
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larsks | club420: here is a local.conf that successfully stores logs on disk: https://gist.github.com/larsks/c9a6680797d27edc0d0a | 14:47 |
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larsks | Specifically, the LOGDIR setting makes sure all the service logs go into $DEST/logs (e.g., $HOME/stack/logs) | 14:48 |
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georgem1 | club420: can you upload smaller images? | 14:49 |
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club420 | georgeml: yep i can upload images that are smaller than <1gb | 14:50 |
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club420 | larsks: logfile had been set already in the .conf . i will do a deeper search right now and come back if i find them. | 14:51 |
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larsks | club420: not LOGFILE, LOGDIR. Different information. | 14:52 |
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club420 | larsks: ah yeah ^^ i inserted this value manually in the conf. i try unstack and stack again and look for it | 14:53 |
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georgem1 | club420: do you have enough space on the node? also in "/tmp"? | 14:55 |
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club420 | larsks: hey do have some friends that have experience with devstack? cause i use devstack for my school project and if i have further questions it would be cool if i know somebody that i can ask directly | 14:56 |
larsks | This seems like the best place to ask about devstack, really. Or the openstack users mailingl ist. | 14:57 |
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club420 | georgeml: its a server with 4 tb diskspace i think there should be enough, but how should i check if /tmp got enough space? i run devstack on another user than root. i have to say, i am a noob in ubuntu / openstack ... thats part of my finaly school project btw | 14:58 |
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club420 | larsks: cool, because in the ask.openstack portal i get never answers for my issues. i like this chat but i often got the feeling, that almost all only can support openstack itself. | 14:59 |
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larsks | club420: I answer questions on ask.openstack.org fairly often... | 15:01 |
larsks | I think it's a reasonable resource, and it's certainly better than irc for long-form questions that require configuration and log snippets. | 15:01 |
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club420 | larsks: that wasnt personal my friend. i just experienced that i get better support in here. :) i had in ask.openstack maybe 4 topics but only on 1 i got response for my issue. so thats like a matter of luck if someone is going to answer me | 15:02 |
larsks | I think you may have misinterpreted the reason behind that statement, but no worries. | 15:03 |
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club420 | my english is not the best, but i give my best in interpretion and answering so that everyone understands it. ^^ i would use a german chat if there would be one | 15:04 |
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georgem1 | club420: Glance stores the images by default in "/var/lib/glance/images", try to create a 10 GB in there and see if you can | 15:06 |
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Madkiss | has anyone experienced a problem with openstack where keystone, combined with memcached, will become slower and slower when issuing tokens and restarting memcached wil speed up keystone again massively? | 15:06 |
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georgem1 | club420: you might have 4 TB diskspace but I don't know what your partitions look like; usually if you can upload a small image and fail with a large one, the space is the issue | 15:07 |
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club420 | georgeml: i think in devstack it saves images by default in /devstack/files/images , because there are all other default images like fedora and cerros | 15:10 |
nosleep77 | hi guys, for monitoring purposes on nova services, is it better to get info from "nova service-list" or "ps"? or is the nova service-list getting its info from ps anyway? If I go the ps route i'll have to consider dead and defunct states as well. | 15:11 |
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georgem1 | Madkiss: maybe this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1251123 | 15:13 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1251123 in Keystone havana "_update_user_list_with_cas causes significant overhead (when using memcached as token store backend)" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Morgan Fainberg (mdrnstm) | 15:13 |
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Madkiss | georgem1: this is juno, so i guess not | 15:14 |
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samze | Hey guys, anyone know if there is any automatic deletion of a tenant's glance images upon deletion of that tenant? | 15:31 |
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kbringard | I don't believe there is | 15:31 |
kbringard | nor do I believe there is automatic deletion of any tenant resources when the tenant gets deleted | 15:32 |
kbringard | but I could be wrong on that second bit | 15:32 |
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club420 | georgeml: you where right. i made every step again with logs activated. i became an error in the logs where it says no space left on device :/ i will figure it out tomorrow ... time to get home | 15:33 |
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samze | kbringard just found this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/tenant-deletion | 15:34 |
club420 | larsks: i checked out why it fails. in the log stands that there isnt enough space left. :/ | 15:34 |
QuentinM | Hello. I'm facing a very annoying issue with Tempest .... http://pastebin.com/fEE5G5SD I can't figure out why >< Seems that the CONF.lock_path is null .. | 15:34 |
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Madkiss | okay, we have keystone with tokens in SQL outperforming keystone+memcached by the order of like 20 times | 15:36 |
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iwilson | Hrm. I switched to the openstack chef recipe | 16:48 |
iwilson | and I've gone from ...having a semi-working packstack instance (where I could spin up instances but not connect to them) to ... not being able to spin up instances. | 16:49 |
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linuxgeek_ | isn't the rabbitmq logs supposed to be generated automatically after deleting without the need to restart the rabbitmq service? | 16:52 |
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QuentinM | https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-nova/+bug/1425601 | 17:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1425601 in puppet-nova "virsh rbd secret uuid is not set properly" [Undecided,New] | 17:22 |
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Noice | http://www.shrp.com/2015-Landing3-06.html | 17:25 |
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bigpup6 | can someone tell me why when I try to associate a floating ip the web gui asks for a port? | 17:44 |
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kbringard | that's the virtual switch port you want to associate it with, which effectively will be an interface on the VM you want to attach the FIP to | 17:47 |
kbringard | bigpup6: ^^ | 17:47 |
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bigpup6 | im confused | 17:48 |
bigpup6 | I dont know why nothing is there | 17:48 |
bigpup6 | it wont let me populate it | 17:48 |
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Madkiss | kbringard: have you see setups where keystone | 17:58 |
Madkiss | +memcached is massively slower than keystone with sql-tokens? | 17:58 |
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morganfainberg | Madkiss, what release of OpenStack? | 17:58 |
Madkiss | juno | 17:59 |
Madkiss | keystone+sql produces 250 tokens per second, keystone+memcached 5. | 17:59 |
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morganfainberg | running keystone under eventlet or apache, and the most recent juno tag or release of juno | 18:00 |
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morganfainberg | there has been a few issues with house keeping code (and then eventlet + python-memcache starving the system of resources) that has led to a number of changes | 18:00 |
Madkiss | eventlet, and 2014.2.1 from ubuntu I think | 18:00 |
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morganfainberg | but in short memcache is a LOT worse than sql even if you're having to cleanup the tokens | 18:00 |
morganfainberg | so, not sure which release 2014.2.1 is | 18:01 |
* morganfainberg hates the numbering used | 18:01 | |
Madkiss | isn't the general recommendation to run keystone with memcached because it's supposed to be *faster* then keystone+sql? | 18:01 |
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kbringard | Madkiss: in ours we went with sql for that same reason | 18:01 |
morganfainberg | i would actually go on record saying "don't use memcache" | 18:01 |
kbringard | ^^ | 18:01 |
Madkiss | I can absolutely live with that | 18:01 |
morganfainberg | :) | 18:01 |
kbringard | the biggest issues we had were with the size of the token cache in memcache | 18:01 |
Madkiss | there's just a ton of howtos out there in the web recommending different stuff, including the famous presentation held by jay pipes | 18:02 |
kbringard | and the process by which it gets cleaned up being crazy slow | 18:02 |
morganfainberg | the other question i have is, does this slowdown occur as keystone runs more and more? | 18:02 |
morganfainberg | or always slow even right after a restart? | 18:02 |
Madkiss | absolutely. | 18:02 |
Madkiss | also, it's *way* better right after a memcached restart | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | ok so there is a new pool for helping with this in memcache i think you're missing it | 18:03 |
kbringard | that's been my experience as well | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | let me find the fix and the config options for you | 18:03 |
Madkiss | morganfainberg: no worries. if memcached is not an option, we'll refrain from using it | 18:03 |
Madkiss | also, it makes HA impossible | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | however, just running under mod_wsgi would likely make memcache easier to maintain than sql until kilo lands | 18:03 |
Madkiss | so SQL+UUID it is for us, I guess | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | Madkiss, i also know someone is using CouchBase for the memcache backend | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | which makes HA/replication doable | 18:03 |
kbringard | yea, PKI is sort of the promised land, right? | 18:03 |
Madkiss | kbringard: it doesn't make sense for us, really | 18:04 |
morganfainberg | and solves the issues with memcache being volitile memory | 18:04 |
Madkiss | morganfainberg: that sounds nifty | 18:04 |
morganfainberg | kbringard, nope. tokens without persistence is | 18:04 |
kbringard | a fair point | 18:04 |
morganfainberg | kbringard, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145317/ :) | 18:04 |
morganfainberg | kbringard, will be in kilo | 18:04 |
Madkiss | morganfainberg: are you using other openstack services with mod_wsgi+apache as well? | 18:04 |
morganfainberg | Madkiss, i know of deployers who run all API surfaces in mod_wsgi | 18:05 |
Madkiss | we thought about doing this | 18:05 |
Madkiss | inside of uwsgi | 18:05 |
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morganfainberg | Madkiss, but personally I don't run an OpenStack cloud (anymore), though i expect to be helping to run one again soon(ish)â„¢ | 18:05 |
kbringard | morganfainberg: awesome, thanks for the tip | 18:05 |
morganfainberg | kbringard, yeah. | 18:05 |
Madkiss | but main problem is that the openstack services don't use proper wsgi | 18:05 |
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Madkiss | i.e. you need to write a wrapper around the service to make it work inside of mod_wsgi | 18:06 |
morganfainberg | Madkiss, there is some work to be done - keystone has done it. in fact as of Juno, our recommended deployment is apache | 18:06 |
morganfainberg | well before that | 18:06 |
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morganfainberg | i mean default deployment for gate/devstack | 18:06 |
Madkiss | hmm | 18:06 |
morganfainberg | our recommendation has been apache for a while | 18:06 |
Madkiss | for all services? | 18:06 |
morganfainberg | just keystone | 18:06 |
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morganfainberg | <-- Keystone PTL | 18:06 |
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Madkiss | oh | 18:06 |
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morganfainberg | can't talk authoratatively about other services | 18:07 |
Madkiss | so i'll enter the office tomorrow and tell people "The Keystone PTL has just told me not to use memcached" | 18:07 |
Madkiss | i like that. ;) | 18:07 |
morganfainberg | haha, the more important take away is: use mod_wsgi ;) | 18:07 |
Madkiss | Luckily, Keystone has a file to integrate with mod_wsgi | 18:07 |
Madkiss | all other openstack services are missing exactly that file. | 18:08 |
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morganfainberg | if you want to keep using memcache using https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/token/persistence/backends/memcache_pool.py is important under eventlet | 18:08 |
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morganfainberg | and you may want to use couchbase as the memcache server [persistence/replication] | 18:08 |
Madkiss | You know what? I will just ditch the memcache stuff. | 18:08 |
morganfainberg | so just be aware that you'll need to cleanup the token table fairly often under SQL | 18:09 |
Madkiss | I don't insist on it. Really. We just found the Jay Pipes presentation and thought "Awesome, more performance" | 18:09 |
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Madkiss | and then we found ourselves in a world full of pain | 18:09 |
morganfainberg | as soon as kilo lands i hope i can convince everyone to move to the non-persistent tokens | 18:09 |
morganfainberg | doesn't help you today | 18:09 |
morganfainberg | but we really do know this has been painful | 18:09 |
morganfainberg | and it needs to be solved. | 18:09 |
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Madkiss | thanks a bunch for all your help | 18:10 |
morganfainberg | sadly we can't backport a big change like this to Juno for you. | 18:10 |
morganfainberg | of course. feel free to bug me if something comes up. | 18:10 |
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morganfainberg | just remember sometimes it takes a bit to get back to you in IRC :) [away from desk etc] | 18:10 |
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Madkiss | morganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145317/ will likely not apply to juno, right? | 18:13 |
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jaypipes | Madkiss, kbringard: uhm, 5 tokens per second with memcached? That doesn't sound right... | 18:17 |
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jaypipes | kbringard: memcache was MUCH faster than SQL tokens for our grizzly and folsom deployments at T | 18:17 |
kbringard | yea, something happened in H+ | 18:17 |
kbringard | that's what we started out with here and had all kinds of problems | 18:18 |
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bigpup6 | can someone help me resolve this | 18:18 |
bigpup6 | http://pastebin.com/M7bjRZKY | 18:18 |
jaypipes | kbringard: problems with concurrency or problems with memcache sizing? | 18:18 |
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kbringard | bigpup6: did you set the gateway on that subnet's router to the the floating network? | 18:19 |
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jaypipes | bigpup: you need to attach a gateway to the subnet's router. | 18:19 |
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jaypipes | bigpup: what kbringard said :) | 18:20 |
bigpup6 | humm | 18:20 |
bigpup6 | i dunno if I did | 18:20 |
kbringard | neutron router-gateway-set | 18:20 |
bigpup6 | where should I look in the gui | 18:20 |
kbringard | I think you have to add a port | 18:20 |
kbringard | but, I don't use horizon much, so I don't know what that looks like | 18:20 |
kbringard | it'd probably be easier to just | 18:20 |
kbringard | neutron router-gateway-set router-id floating-network-id | 18:20 |
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kbringard | from the CLI | 18:21 |
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kbringard | then when you neutron router-list it should show a network_id and enabled_snat in the external_gateway_info box | 18:21 |
bigpup6 | ok | 18:21 |
bigpup6 | so right now | 18:21 |
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bigpup6 | i think my issue is I have new networks named private | 18:22 |
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bigpup6 | and I can no delete either | 18:22 |
bigpup6 | and im not sure why | 18:22 |
bigpup6 | neutron net-delete 54bbc787-e072-4db6-9fef-f95ed2d2d2cb | 18:23 |
bigpup6 | Conflict (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-a1b1e1af-8569-4724-9055-2573c7a53a9a) | 18:23 |
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kbringard | my guess is that it still has ports or something on it… something which is consuming resources from the net | 18:24 |
kbringard | perhaps the subnet is still assigned to it | 18:25 |
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bigpup6 | does it matter if I have two? | 18:25 |
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morganfainberg | Madkiss, no that patch wont apply to juno | 18:26 |
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morganfainberg | jaypipes, in H we had some icky housekeeping code issues that caused us to tank performance | 18:26 |
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morganfainberg | jaypipes, it was security related too | 18:27 |
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jaypipes | morganfainberg: hmm :( | 18:27 |
morganfainberg | jaypipes, in late J we fixed some of that, but recently we hit a greenlet bug that caused us to starve the memcache sockets. | 18:27 |
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morganfainberg | jaypipes, so we implemented a memcache pool (really bad under eventlet w/o pool) | 18:27 |
morganfainberg | thread.local bit us in two ways | 18:27 |
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morganfainberg | jaypipes, so it's better w/ the pool in Juno (and I). | 18:28 |
morganfainberg | under apache it's less of an issue | 18:28 |
jaypipes | k. but still advise using mod_wsgi for anything keystone-related? | 18:28 |
jaypipes | k | 18:28 |
morganfainberg | yes. | 18:28 |
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morganfainberg | 100% | 18:28 |
morganfainberg | :) | 18:28 |
morganfainberg | and if they insist on using memcache, couchbase seems to make things way better | 18:28 |
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jaypipes | k, good to know (and I don't disagree with that) :) | 18:28 |
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Madkiss | hello jaypipes | 18:29 |
Madkiss | sorry for the hilighting | 18:29 |
jaypipes | morganfainberg: why would memcache be slower than sql tokens? just makes no sense to me... | 18:29 |
morganfainberg | and like i said before in Kilo we should finally have an option to remove the whole need to store tokens (yay) | 18:29 |
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morganfainberg | jaypipes, because eventlet spawns a new thread.local connection per greenlet | 18:29 |
morganfainberg | and you starve your memcache server for all resources | 18:29 |
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jaypipes | morganfainberg: no, I mean when using apache. | 18:30 |
morganfainberg | oh it isn't slower | 18:30 |
morganfainberg | it's about comparable unless you have too many workers for memcache or you haven't cleaned your table | 18:30 |
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morganfainberg | depending on the volume of issuance etc | 18:30 |
morganfainberg | and if you have 10000+ active tokens for a given user, memcache falls over | 18:31 |
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jaypipes | morganfainberg: and have we tested to see if the pool approach is actually slower under apache? :) | 18:31 |
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morganfainberg | pool approach should be about the same, might be slightly slower under apache | 18:31 |
morganfainberg | it has more house-keeping | 18:31 |
morganfainberg | but you get 1 connection per worker | 18:31 |
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jaypipes | right. | 18:31 |
morganfainberg | so it's not that noticable | 18:31 |
morganfainberg | usually | 18:31 |
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morganfainberg | and if you issue 12k tokens/min SQL can't keep up no matter what | 18:32 |
morganfainberg | (don't ask me how i know that >.>) | 18:32 |
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jaypipes | morganfainberg: heh :) | 18:33 |
Madkiss | morganfainberg: how you know that? | 18:33 |
* Madkiss ducks & runs | 18:33 | |
morganfainberg | Madkiss, hahahah | 18:33 |
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Madkiss | we're at likme 250 tokens/s with mysql+sql right now | 18:33 |
morganfainberg | jaypipes, the short is... tokens suck to deal with :( and we really want it to be better. | 18:33 |
morganfainberg | 250 tokens a second? | 18:34 |
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Madkiss | yes | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | yeah you might be in a case where SQL wont work then because the table can't be cleared out | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | :( | 18:34 |
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Madkiss | i'm talking about benchmarks | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | the innodb gap-lock issues will cause problems | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | oh | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | oh | 18:34 |
Madkiss | our use case is way smaller | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | haha | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | phew | 18:34 |
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morganfainberg | 15k tokens /min in production use is scary | 18:35 |
Madkiss | I was just fed up completely with memcached earlier today | 18:35 |
Madkiss | also, kristian koenhtopp is in our team, we'll certainly know how to teach | 18:35 |
Madkiss | MySQL manners | 18:35 |
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Madkiss | one of my key concerns is that right now, the whole platforms feels "slow" | 18:36 |
jaypipes | Madkiss: heh. Kristian thinks all of OpenStack is a complete pile of garbage. | 18:36 |
Madkiss | i.e. I login to the dashboard, klick on a tenant that has like 50VMs running, click on the "Instances" pane and it takes 1-2 seconds to load | 18:36 |
morganfainberg | there is a lot of tuning that can be done, but there is a lot of processing that is done for anything in openstack. | 18:36 |
Madkiss | jaypipes: I am not so sure he's that wrong after working in this team for 6 months ;) | 18:36 |
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Madkiss | j/k | 18:37 |
morganfainberg | there is also a lot of gaps in implementation that makes things feel slower (especially from a web page view) than otherwise. | 18:37 |
Madkiss | but getting openstack "right" in production is an interesting challenge | 18:37 |
Madkiss | esp. in a case as special as ours (Self-built opencontrail and stuff) | 18:37 |
jaypipes | Madkiss: I don't disagree with that :) | 18:37 |
jaypipes | Madkiss: who do you work for? | 18:37 |
Madkiss | jaypipes: SysEleven, like Kristian | 18:37 |
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Madkiss | morganfainberg: thank you for your help! I owe you a beer or two. | 18:38 |
Madkiss | or a keg. | 18:38 |
morganfainberg | Madkiss, haha not needed ;) | 18:38 |
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morganfainberg | Madkiss, but if you're at the summit in vancouver find me and say hi! | 18:38 |
Madkiss | morganfainberg: I'm a German. | 18:38 |
jaypipes | morganfainberg: never say no to a German beer offering :) | 18:38 |
Madkiss | morganfainberg: If there's one thing Germans can do properly, it's beer | 18:38 |
Madkiss | so no way out for you. | 18:38 |
morganfainberg | jaypipes, i said it wasn't needed... didn't say i wouldn't accept did i ;) | 18:38 |
jaypipes | lol' | 18:38 |
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morganfainberg | yes... i said bowl. | 18:39 |
jaypipes | Madkiss: are you guys building your own deployment from scratch or are you using something like RDO or Fuel or something else? | 18:39 |
Madkiss | all hand made, actually. | 18:39 |
jaypipes | hmm, that might be the first issue :) | 18:40 |
Madkiss | Our requirements are a bit too special for off-the-shelf components | 18:40 |
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morganfainberg | makes it harder when you hand-roll stuff like OpenStack | 18:40 |
jaypipes | Madkiss: can you share any of your requirements? would be great to hear them | 18:40 |
Madkiss | One of the major PITAs definitely is OpenContrail. | 18:40 |
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Madkiss | OpenContrail itself is an awesome piece of technology by all means | 18:41 |
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morganfainberg | i haven't looked too hard at OpenContrail | 18:41 |
Madkiss | but bringing it to the point where it would do what we need it do was sort of a challenge | 18:41 |
morganfainberg | bit you're not the first to say that | 18:41 |
Madkiss | including "redoing large parts of upstream ubuntu packaging" | 18:41 |
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Madkiss | In fact, we're by now providing packages I would describe to be in better shape than what upstream has ;) | 18:41 |
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jaypipes | Madkiss: upstream Ubuntu or upstream OpenContrail/Juniper? | 18:42 |
Madkiss | there are no packages for opencontrail in Ubuntu. | 18:42 |
jaypipes | oh.. well that answers that! :) | 18:43 |
Madkiss | https://launchpad.net/~syseleven-platform/+archive/ubuntu/contrail-2.0/+packages is as fresh as it gets | 18:43 |
jaypipes | nice. | 18:43 |
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jaypipes | Madkiss: have you tried working with the contrail community on packaging? | 18:43 |
Madkiss | it helps to have been a debian developer for 11 years. | 18:43 |
Madkiss | jaypipes: we are doing that, and patches are going upstream | 18:43 |
Madkiss | we're definitely keen on giving back to community | 18:43 |
jaypipes | coolio. | 18:44 |
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Madkiss | jaypipes: right now, i'm focussing on performance though, and that gives me a bunch of pain | 18:46 |
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jaypipes | Madkiss: understood completely. | 18:46 |
jaypipes | Madkiss: we have a whole team here looking at various performance-related and scale stuffs. | 18:46 |
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Madkiss | jaypipes: surprisingly, it's not even like there is a lot of well documented stuff out there | 18:49 |
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Madkiss | wrt performance tuning operations | 18:49 |
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jaypipes | Madkiss: yeah, it's few and far between... | 18:50 |
Madkiss | I fully understand that the performance side of opencontrail parts is not that well documented because it's not that widespread yet. it's sort of sad to find out that keystone+memcached is a problem in Juno only after talking to the project tl | 18:50 |
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Madkiss | jaypipes: does your performance and scale-out team publish stuff in an way? | 18:53 |
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Madkiss | I'm looking for hints and insights on running all the OpenStack APIs inside of Apache+mod_wsgi | 18:53 |
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jaypipes | Madkiss: they will be, yes, but I wouldn't expect to see much published for a number of months (the team is pretty new) | 18:55 |
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Madkiss | I see, okay | 18:56 |
Madkiss | well, it was worth a try ;) | 18:56 |
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iwilson | Hrm. So, I gave up on the openstack chef repos (wouldn't spin up instances) and tried packstack/RDO with Fedora 20. Same symptoms as packstack/RDO on RHEL7. | 19:47 |
iwilson | Spins up instances, but no networking. | 19:47 |
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KaZeR | hi there | 20:26 |
KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: are you around ? | 20:26 |
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larsks | iwilson: "no networking" covers a lot of ground. Are your instances getting ip addresses? | 20:28 |
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alexj | hi! if I want to have openstack over multiple physical hosts, do I need to configure a open vswitch on all of them? if yes, how (a link to a tutorial on this would be great) | 20:30 |
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iwilson | larsks: they are being assigned IP addresses | 20:32 |
iwilson | if I tcpdump -I the interface that they are assigned to, I can see the DHCP requests | 20:32 |
larsks | Okay. And can they ping the gateway for the private network? That would be 10.0.0.1 assuming packstack defaults. | 20:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: working on prod issues today | 20:38 |
KaZeR | np Sam-I-Am | 20:39 |
Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: one question tho - in the l3_agent.ini, what do you have for 'external_network_bridge' ? | 20:39 |
KaZeR | Sam-I-Am: external_network_bridge = br-ex | 20:39 |
larsks | iwilson: still around? | 20:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: try making it 'external_network_bridge =' | 20:41 |
KaZeR | ok | 20:41 |
Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: then restart l3 agent and ovs agents | 20:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | then try creating that external network again | 20:41 |
Sam-I-Am | just a hunch | 20:41 |
KaZeR | ok thanks | 20:41 |
Sam-I-Am | anyway, i gotta run... i'll be back later | 20:41 |
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iwilson | larsks: yeah -- had to get youngest off of the bus. | 20:44 |
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larsks | iwilson: okay. I had a question for you a few lines back. | 20:45 |
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iwilson | I'm checking on that now | 20:46 |
iwilson | two seconds. | 20:46 |
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iwilson | larsks: it looks like openstack took...my default route? | 20:55 |
iwilson | hold on...this isn't right | 20:55 |
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* larsks holds on. | 20:57 | |
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iwilson | ok, the br-ex is sharing the same IP address as my gateway IP address | 21:15 |
iwilson | that's why I can no longer get to my openstack box | 21:15 |
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iwilson | I'm going to change that in my ifcfg-br-ex file and restart networking | 21:18 |
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iwilson | ...and we're back to where I can see the DHCP requests come through the tap. Once cirros fails to get the IP address, I'll hop in and see what I can ping | 21:28 |
iwilson | but it wasn't getting a private (or a public) IP address the last few times that I've tried. | 21:29 |
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iwilson | larsks: so, no love on pinging 10.0.0.1 from the cirros image, even after giving it an IP address in that space. | 21:40 |
larsks | That's okay, I was just curious if dhcp was working in the first place. | 21:41 |
larsks | Is this an all-in-one or multi-node deployment>? | 21:41 |
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iwilson | all-in-one | 21:41 |
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larsks | Can you pastebin the output of 'ip netns'? | 21:42 |
iwilson | of course. two seconds. | 21:42 |
larsks | And "ovs-vsctl show", too. | 21:43 |
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larsks | I like to do this: ip netns | curl -T- -s chunk.io | 21:43 |
larsks | That returns a url you can paste here. | 21:43 |
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larsks | (fyi, I have to go pick up kids in just a few minutes.) | 21:44 |
kupo24z | Is there any documented way to connect a standard linux dedicated server to an existing neutron private network assuming its on the same vlan? | 21:44 |
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iwilson | http://chunk.io/f/24976e096aa04ec49276cdc5e510d8f8 and http://chunk.io/f/65e106acf08c4495b66df4715a40fc97 | 21:45 |
iwilson | larsks: completely understand. My oldest one gets off of the bus in about 10 minutes as well. | 21:45 |
larsks | Okay, in the ovs-vsctl output... | 21:45 |
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larsks | For Port "tapc63ce929-21", "tag: 4095" means "something went wrong with neutron" | 21:45 |
larsks | Take a look in your /var/log/neutron/openvswitch-agent.log and see if there is something there. | 21:46 |
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larsks | Because it has the wrong vlan tag, traffic isn't flowing between that interface and anything else useful. | 21:46 |
iwilson | "Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID" | 21:46 |
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larsks | You can maybe shut down neutron, run neutron-ovs-cleanup, neutron-netns-cleanup, then clear out your neutron logs, then bring everything back up and look for any errors that crop up besides the timeout. | 21:47 |
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larsks | iwilson: what tz are you in? | 21:48 |
iwilson | EST/EDT | 21:49 |
larsks | Oh, spiffy, me too. If you spot something useful in the logs, let me know. I've got to run right now. | 21:49 |
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iwilson | larsks: error: [Errno 110] Connection timed out -- in l3-agent.log | 23:21 |
iwilson | not sure where it's coming from | 23:21 |
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iwilson | rather, it's coming from here: ERROR oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [-] Failed to publish message to topic 'q-plugin': [Errno 110] Connection timed out | 23:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | KaZeR: so what happened? | 23:34 |
KaZeR | hey Sam-I-Am | 23:34 |
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KaZeR | well since a couple of hours i now have "Invalid input for operation: network_type value 'gre' not supported" i wonder if one of my collegues did not mess up with the setup | 23:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | did someone try to use a tunnel type? | 23:36 |
KaZeR | that's possible | 23:36 |
KaZeR | most of this setup is deployed using puppet, he might have connected a wrongly configured compute | 23:36 |
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KaZeR | i can trash the db and start over | 23:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'd grep the scripts for 'gre' | 23:37 |
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KaZeR | scripts ? | 23:37 |
Sam-I-Am | whatever you're using to deploy networks | 23:37 |
KaZeR | it might have been a manual setup | 23:37 |
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KaZeR | let me purge the db and restart | 23:38 |
Sam-I-Am | ok | 23:38 |
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KaZeR | i was wondering if it would be worth trying icehouse instead of juno. any opinion on this ? | 23:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | i see no reason to use icehouse | 23:40 |
Sam-I-Am | especially since kilo will be out in a few months which deprecates it | 23:40 |
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KaZeR | ok thanks | 23:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | pretty sure this is a config problem somewhere, not a bug (i hope) | 23:42 |
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KaZeR | a bug would be quite odd, i do not think that my setup is particular | 23:43 |
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kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: do you know of any way to connect a external linux server to an existing neutron vxlan private network? I found this http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/juno/neutron-external-attachment-points.html but diddnt get very far | 23:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | havent heard much about it | 23:44 |
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kupo24z | i know vxlan is supported by ovs, however ip also can do it, not sure which would be better | 23:46 |
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kupo24z | Sam-I-Am: are you familar with how ironic provisions neutron networks with bare metal? | 23:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | not really | 23:52 |
Sam-I-Am | havent tried ironic yet | 23:52 |
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KaZeR | ok Sam-I-Am i have back to a clean state | 23:57 |
Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 23:57 |
KaZeR | i have vlan 501 ( 132.0/24 ) as my public network | 23:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok | 23:58 |
KaZeR | am i supposed to see the 501 vlan in ovs flows already ? or should it appear when i have a tenant network with an instance ? | 23:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | you removed that br-ex from l3_agent.ini right? | 23:59 |
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