Thursday, 2015-02-26

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KaZeR	ha crap, i ran puppet so it's back. give me a sec	00:00
Sam-I-Am	derp	00:00
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KaZeR	ok removed, and restarted l3-agent service and ovs	00:01
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KaZeR	i do see the tenant vlan creation in ovs logs : Port 992c168d-ff59-492a-aad0-5baacce73765 updated. Details: {u'admin_state_up': True, u'network_id': u'68a494c9-1026-4f9f-90ad-f1506a495c76', u'segmentation_id': 511, u'physical_network': u'physnet1', u'device': u'992c168d-ff59-492a-aad0-5baacce73765', u'port_id': u'992c168d-ff59-492a-aad0-5baacce73765', u'network_type': u'vlan'}	00:06
Sam-I-Am	mmkay	00:07
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KaZeR	i do not see any change in behavior	00:10
Sam-I-Am	thats bad L/	00:11
Sam-I-Am	bad	00:11
Sam-I-Am	no flows in br-ex?	00:11
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KaZeR	no flows for vlan 501, but i do have 511 :	00:12
KaZeR	cookie=0x0, duration=365.573s, table=0, n_packets=17, n_bytes=2011, idle_age=1, priority=4,in_port=4,dl_vlan=1 actions=mod_vlan_vid:511,NORMAL	00:12
Sam-I-Am	what about in br-int?	00:12
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KaZeR	http://ix.io/gyS	00:12
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KaZeR	same, only 511	00:13
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Sam-I-Am	hmm	00:13
Sam-I-Am	this might not be possible with only one ovs bridge	00:13
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Sam-I-Am	you could try setting external_network_bridge to br-int	00:14
Sam-I-Am	beyond that i'm more or less out of ideas until i can build this environment locally	00:14
KaZeR	ok thanks. i also have br-vlan as a leftover from yesterday. want me to use this one instead ?	00:15
KaZeR	(i checked, no flow for 501 there now )	00:15
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Sam-I-Am	you'll have to update your mappings to include it, then move the tenant network there	00:16
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KaZeR	i have bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex,physnet2:br-vlan already in ml2_conf.ini	00:18
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Sam-I-Am	and you configured the tenant net on physnet2?	00:18
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KaZeR	not for the last test. i will do it now	00:18
KaZeR	this matters only on the controller right? no need to change it on the compute ?	00:19
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Sam-I-Am	needs to be the same everywhere	00:20
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KaZeR	ok	00:21
KaZeR	in ml2_type_vlan, should i use network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:504:554,physnet2:501:502 or network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:501:554,physnet2 ?	00:22
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Sam-I-Am	probably doesnt matter	00:22
Sam-I-Am	technically you should be able to create a provider network with any vlan	00:23
Sam-I-Am	this is another problem	00:23
KaZeR	ok	00:23
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KaZeR	i've used the first syntax, on both nodes. i'm recreating the tenant network and specifying the provider net physnet2	00:24
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KaZeR	my tenant vlan now shows up in the br-vlan flow instead of br-ex	00:28
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Sam-I-Am	which makes sense	00:29
KaZeR	i did not recreate the public network ( it was created using "neutron net-create public-132 --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1 --router:external=True --provider:segmentation_id 501 --shared " )	00:29
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Sam-I-Am	you should re-create it, and remove the --shared too	00:30
KaZeR	ok	00:30
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KaZeR	i do not see a difference in the result	00:34
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Sam-I-Am	hmm	00:35
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Sam-I-Am	i dont know what to tell you	00:35
Sam-I-Am	i cant help you anymore	00:35
Sam-I-Am	this should work, and i dont know why it does	00:35
Sam-I-Am	doesnt	00:35
KaZeR	yeah i'm quite confused too.	00:35
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KaZeR	thanks a lot	00:35
Sam-I-Am	your only option now is to go back to using subinterfaces on the host	00:35
Sam-I-Am	and then create flat networks to each of them	00:36
Sam-I-Am	so you'd have br-vlan501 with a port on p255e1.501 (or whatever), and br-vlan502 with a port on p255e1.502	00:36
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Sam-I-Am	configure your bridge mappings accordingly, and use the right one when creating a network of type flat	00:37
KaZeR	if i can get an instance to communicate externally, this would buy me some time	00:37
Sam-I-Am	if you're only ever going to have a few external networks, this isnt a big deal.	00:37
KaZeR	i should only need one external net	00:37
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KaZeR	wait.. this means that my instances will all be on the flat network right ?	00:38
Sam-I-Am	no	00:39
Sam-I-Am	you'd still do all the other stuff	00:39
KaZeR	ok cool sounds good	00:39
Sam-I-Am	this just changes where vlan tagging is done	00:39
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Sam-I-Am	instead of trying to make ovs do it (which it wont do, apparently), you do it at the host level	00:40
Sam-I-Am	at that point, neutron just sees each vlan subinterface as a flat network	00:40
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KaZeR	so in neutron, the only change is network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:504:554,physnet2:501:502 -> network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:504:554, and bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-ex,physnet2:br-vlan -> bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-vlan501	00:41
KaZeR	right ?	00:41
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Sam-I-Am	well, there's some other stuff to make flat networks	00:42
Sam-I-Am	[ml2_type_flat] flat_networks = physnet1,physnet2,...	00:43
Sam-I-Am	this gets kind of weird when you only have one bridge for external and tenant networks (and highly not recommended)	00:44
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KaZeR	my current bridge_mappings is physnet1:br-ex,physnet2:br-vlan	00:52
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KaZeR	do i still need a mapping to br-ex ? i should replace it with br-vlan501 and create a new bridge, for the sake of simplicity no ?	00:53
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Sam-I-Am	well, br-vlan doesnt do you any good when it doesnt connect to anything	00:53
KaZeR	so i should remove br-vlan, br-ex and create a new br-vlan501 with p255e1.501 correct ?	00:53
Sam-I-Am	yeah	00:54
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KaZeR	ok good luck :)	00:54
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KaZeR	quick question : should i also put br-vlan501 on the compute node ?	00:55
KaZeR	i don't think so, but then the naming does not match anymore as i do have br-ex there	00:55
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Sam-I-Am	nope, just the controller/network node	00:56
KaZeR	ok	00:56
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KaZeR	here's the bridges on the controller : http://ix.io/gyY	00:58
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Sam-I-Am	that works	01:09
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comay	i was curious about swift 2.2.1 or 2.2.2 - as part of the kilo development, are they only tested with the latter or is it expected they can/should be used on prior releases such as juno?	01:13
Sam-I-Am	swift is sort of its own thing	01:13
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KaZeR	Sam-I-Am: trying to make sure i did not forget smth. here's what i have :	01:14
KaZeR	in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini:network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:504:554,physnet2:501:502	01:14
Sam-I-Am	you dont need physnet2:501:502 because they're going to be flat networks, not vlan	01:15
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KaZeR	ok	01:15
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KaZeR	here's my current ml2_conf.ini : http://pastebin.com/42Yf3bhF	01:17
Sam-I-Am	a few things	01:18
Sam-I-Am	add 'flat' to type_drivers	01:18
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KaZeR	ok	01:18
Sam-I-Am	what is physnet2 ?	01:18
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KaZeR	mmm that would be a leftover	01:19
Sam-I-Am	so...	01:20
Sam-I-Am	you need a bare (non-sub) interface for your tenant networks, since they use vlans.	01:20
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Sam-I-Am	this will probably be br-ex, which has a port on p255p1	01:20
KaZeR	so physnet1:br-vlan501 should be physnet1:br-ex ?	01:21
KaZeR	(i mean in bridge_mappings )	01:21
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Sam-I-Am	i think you need two mappings. something like ext-net501:br-vlan501 and tenant-nets:br-ex	01:22
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Sam-I-Am	flat_networks = ext-net501 network_vlan_ranges = tenant-nets:504:554	01:22
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KaZeR	ok. i like that it's quite clear	01:23
Sam-I-Am	br-vlan501 has a port on p255p1.501, and br-ex has a port on p255p1	01:23
Sam-I-Am	you could call br-ex anything really, like br-tenants	01:23
Sam-I-Am	its called br-ex because on most systems it only handles external network traffic. on yours, it handles tenant networks too (hence why it isnt a typical architecture)	01:24
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KaZeR	makes sense.	01:25
KaZeR	so if i understood you correctly, this is my new config : http://pastebin.com/kq8SC5KA	01:25
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Sam-I-Am	change network_vlan_ranges to tenant-nets:501:554	01:26
Sam-I-Am	other than that it looks fine. now, on the compute node it'll look a little different	01:27
Sam-I-Am	because you dont have flat networks, nor ext-net501 and br-vlan501 ... just br-ex	01:27
larsks	iwilson: around? Sounds like neutron was having issues contacting your amq service. Did you get any further with that?	01:27
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Sam-I-Am	hey larsks	01:27
larsks	Sam-I-Am: Hey there!	01:28
Sam-I-Am	maybe you can help here	01:28
KaZeR	Sam-I-Am: 501? sure? because 501 and 502 are reserved ( 503 also for ceph )	01:28
Sam-I-Am	i was under the impression you could make vlan provider/external networks and let ovs do the tagging on br-ex for those	01:28
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Sam-I-Am	KaZeR: errr 504:554	01:28
Sam-I-Am	i cant type	01:28
KaZeR	ok makes sense :)	01:29
KaZeR	ok probable last iteration of the controller : http://pastebin.com/geG0B9zP	01:29
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Sam-I-Am	you might need that network_vlan_ranges also in [ovs]	01:30
Sam-I-Am	i forget	01:30
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Sam-I-Am	otherwise looks fine	01:30
Sam-I-Am	you'll also want to rebuild your neutron db after adding 'flat' network type	01:31
KaZeR	ok	01:31
larsks	Sam-I-Am: I don't have enough practical experience with vlan networks to be sure, but I thought so, too.	01:31
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Sam-I-Am	larsks: mmkay.	01:32
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KaZeR	Sam-I-Am: compute node : http://pastebin.com/c2tkbj3x	01:32
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KaZeR	compute bridges : http://ix.io/gz3	01:33
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Sam-I-Am	shouldn't physnet1 be tenant-nets ?	01:33
Sam-I-Am	and add the flat type	01:34
KaZeR	i actually just removed the flat becuase of "because you dont have flat networks, nor ext-net501 and br-vlan501 ... just br-ex"	01:34
Sam-I-Am	the type drivers field is a database thing	01:34
KaZeR	ok	01:34
Sam-I-Am	best to leave those all the same	01:34
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KaZeR	so updated compute : http://ix.io/gz4	01:36
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Sam-I-Am	type_drivers = flat,vlan ... and get rid of 'flat_networks'	01:39
KaZeR	oh ok	01:40
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KaZeR	http://ix.io/gz5	01:40
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notmyname	comay: those releases of swift can absolutely be used with previous versions of other openstack projects	01:41
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Sam-I-Am	yeah thats it	01:41
KaZeR	cool. what's the best way to rebuild the neutron db ?	01:41
Sam-I-Am	drop it, recreate it, then use neutron-db-manage	01:42
KaZeR	ok	01:42
Sam-I-Am	i thought you did this before	01:42
notmyname	comay: yes, those swift releases happened during the overall openstack kilo cycle. but they are prod-ready and can be used with older parts of openstack	01:42
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KaZeR	Sam-I-Am: i did, i even have a script for it. i was just wondering if it was the best way :)	01:44
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KaZeR	ok i'm ready to recreate the public network	01:48
KaZeR	actually i lost the 501 connectivity.. it was definitely working a moment ago	01:48
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Sam-I-Am	what do you mean lost?	01:51
KaZeR	i mean that from the controller, i can not reach the gw on 501 anymore	01:52
KaZeR	i was able to do it a few minutes ago.	01:52
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Sam-I-Am	where was the ip address before?	01:52
KaZeR	http://ix.io/gz8	01:53
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KaZeR	ip hasn't changed, 172.16.132.2	01:53
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KaZeR	gw is .1, and i have an admin box on 132.252	01:53
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Sam-I-Am	br-ex probably doesnt need that ip anymore	01:54
KaZeR	mmm this is the ip i use to connect to the box	01:54
Sam-I-Am	whatever ip should be on vlan 501, needs to go on br-vlan501	01:54
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Sam-I-Am	hmmmm	01:54
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Sam-I-Am	here's what happened	01:55
KaZeR	moving the ip to br-vlan501 fixed it	01:55
Sam-I-Am	since p255p1.501 is a port on br-vlan501, you need to move the ip to br-vlan501	01:55
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KaZeR	yep makes sense now :)	01:56
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KaZeR	so any specific argument required to create the public net ?	01:57
comay	notmyname great, thanks for the clarification	01:58
Sam-I-Am	KaZeR: yeah, you have to change the type to flat, and the network to ext-net501	01:58
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KaZeR	ok. neutron net-create public-132 --provider:network_type flat --provider:physical_network --provider:physical_network --router:external=True	01:59
KaZeR	not shared, right ?	01:59
Sam-I-Am	not shared, and you need to fix physical_network to be something :)	01:59
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KaZeR	meh copy paste :)	02:00
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KaZeR	neutron net-create public-132 --provider:network_type flat --provider:physical_network ext-net501 --router:external=True	02:00
Sam-I-Am	yes	02:00
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KaZeR	ok. moving on the the tenant now...	02:01
KaZeR	i used --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network tenant-nets for the tenant network	02:02
Sam-I-Am	yeah	02:03
Sam-I-Am	if its working right, you could just do 'net-create <name>' and neutron does the rest for you	02:03
Sam-I-Am	it knows you're using vlans and it knows the valid range, so it'll just assign one	02:03
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KaZeR	ok makes sense	02:06
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KaZeR	instance spawned. drumroll....	02:08
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Sam-I-Am	well, we could have tested some stuff from within the qrouter namespace	02:08
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KaZeR	i was actually thinking the same thing.. but just noticed there's no qrouter ns	02:09
KaZeR	i have two qdhcp	02:09
KaZeR	that's it	02:09
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Sam-I-Am	thats not good	02:09
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Sam-I-Am	did you do the usual router commands?	02:09
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KaZeR	i think so.. i use a script for this	02:10
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KaZeR	http://pastebin.com/qRsDzPBt	02:10
Sam-I-Am	not sure why you have two dhcps. there might be one from the old setup.	02:10
Sam-I-Am	your script does a router-gateway-set, right?	02:11
KaZeR	yes, and in http://pastebin.com/qRsDzPBt you can see that \| external_gateway_info \| {"network_id": "59ec1357-c355-47de-bb57-af84e24b56c2", "enable_snat": true} \|	02:12
KaZeR	which is public-132	02:12
Sam-I-Am	hmm	02:12
Sam-I-Am	well, check the l3 agent logs	02:12
Sam-I-Am	and ovs agent logs	02:12
KaZeR	meh config.. ERROR neutron.agent.l3_agent [req-c1a7f0e2-e4b7-429a-8cc9-8ed72bc31cae None] The external network bridge 'br-vlan' does not exist	02:13
KaZeR	should i use an empty external_network_bridge ?	02:13
Sam-I-Am	yes	02:13
Sam-I-Am	wonder where it got br-vlan from	02:13
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KaZeR	from a previous test i did :)	02:13
Sam-I-Am	oh	02:14
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Sam-I-Am	so, when you fix it, you should just be able to restart the l3 agent... and a router should appear (at some point)	02:14
KaZeR	yep	02:14
KaZeR	and from this namespace I CAN FINALLY PING THE EXTERNAL GW!	02:14
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Sam-I-Am	wooo	02:15
KaZeR	let's see the instance	02:16
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KaZeR	IT WORKS	02:17
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Sam-I-Am	score	02:17
KaZeR	wow	02:17
KaZeR	last test, the floating ip	02:17
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KaZeR	and it works!	02:20
Sam-I-Am	woo	02:20
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spradeepv	Hi, I am trying to install devstack kilo version. I am stuck where glance throws error while trying to create image. The error is "401 Unauthorized This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the credentials required. Request returned failure status. Invalid Open	05:27
spradeepv	Any help?	05:27
spradeepv	My local.conf is as follows	05:27
spradeepv	[[local\|localrc]] # Credentials ADMIN_PASSWORD=password MYSQL_PASSWORD=password RABBIT_PASSWORD=password SERVICE_PASSWORD=password SERVICE_TOKEN=password SERVICE_TENANT_NAME=admin SERVICE_USER_NAME=admin SERVICE_USER=admin # Services disable_service n-net ENABLED_SERVICES=rabbit,mysql,key ENABLED_SERVICES+=,n-api,n-crt,n-obj,n-cond,n-sch,n-novnc,n-cauth ENABLED_SERVICES+=,neutron,q-svc,q-agt,q-dhcp,q-l3,q-meta ENABLED_SERVICE	05:28
zerda	spradeepv, http://paste.openstack.org/ please	05:28
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spradeepv	zerda: Sorry about that. Here is the link to local.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/182277/	05:29
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naman	can anyone plz help me in configuring controller, compute and network node using devstack	05:44
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iwilson	I'm getting a lot of "Connection Timed out" errors in oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit	08:05
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iwilson	CentOS7 Packstack/RDO	08:06
iwilson	RabbitMq seems to be happy -- it's running and generally...alive.	08:06
iwilson	I'm not sure where I should continue looking at.	08:06
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SVK	instance not getting IP from DHCP..also network:dhcp port is showing down on dashboard..Openstack Juno On ubuntu???	08:56
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SVK	instance not getting IP from DHCP..also network:dhcp port is showing down on dashboard..Openstack Juno On ubuntu???	09:00
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Danilo	Is there someone that know how many developer are based in Italy?	09:11
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SVK	instance not getting IP from DHCP..also network:dhcp port is showing down on dashboard..Openstack Juno On ubuntu???	09:12
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iwilson	progress -- but now ip netns isn't showing a qrouter object	09:16
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Club420	yo fellas, where can i configure swift and glance to allow uploading images >15gb? i use devstack instead, and got swift enabled service, so by default glance stores images in swift and fails with error.	10:09
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Club420	i found the config file from glance, where it sets the maximum object size and chunk size. for a 15gb vmdk size file, what should i set the swift_store_large_object_chunk_size? by default 200mb	10:38
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Club420	or can someone explain what chunk is?	10:43
geaaru	hi, i'm upgraded my environment to juno release (2014.2.2) and enable dvr router, but on legacy router already present before upgrade i have a problem. It seems that routers are created correctly but net iface of the router is not attached to openvswitch bridge	10:43
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geaaru	if i enable dvr routers , legacy router must be removed and created as dvr routers ?	10:43
geaaru	thans in advance	10:43
geaaru	second question, what is module that connect router ifaces to openvswitch ? neutron-openvswitch-agent or neutron-l3-agent ? thanks in advance	10:44
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vivekopenstack	Hi All	11:20
vivekopenstack	need some help about openstack	11:21
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controller1	ya sure	11:23
controller1	I am not a master at it	11:23
controller1	but will try if I could help	11:23
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vivekopenstack	oh great	11:24
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vivekopenstack	i m stuck at neutron part	11:25
vivekopenstack	can you please help me on this	11:25
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Club420	can someone help me with my issue here? https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/61722/devstack-terminal-glance-failed-to-upload-image-with-swift-backend/?answer=61827#post-id-61827	12:26
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Club420	devstack ... if i change the loopback disk size from 6 to 60. will change take effects after i unstack. clean and stack again??	12:56
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Madkiss	morganfainberg: are you around? :)	13:00
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HerrNerdinger	good day	13:04
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HerrNerdinger	how is it possible to delete rally volumes if the OpenStack throws an error by deleteing?	13:32
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Delair	@all I have a bash script which will launch full environment exactly same what you can do on heat.. it lauches vm, network, port and assign floating ip on a statictly configured VM.. CAN I DO THE SAME IF A VM GETS AN IP FROM DHCP?	14:10
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larsks	Delair: Do you mean a vm launched via nova?	14:10
larsks	(Just to make sure I understand)	14:10
Delair	YEAP	14:10
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larsks	Okay. So, a vm launched via nova always gets an address via dhcp (usually, from the dhcp server provided by either neutron or nova-network). Does your environment behave this way?	14:11
larsks	Or do you have some sort of external dhcp server?	14:11
Delair	it get dhcp ip from neutron\	14:12
larsks	Because if it's just a normal setup, then you just "nova floating-ip-associate" to assign an ip to an instance. You don't need to know the instance ip.	14:12
Delair	no external dhcp servers	14:12
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larsks	That is, you (a) nova boot, (b) nova floating-ip-create, and (c) nova floating-ip-associate <instance_id_or_name> <floating_ip_address>	14:12
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Delair	humm let me modify the script and see if that work	14:13
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larsks	I would say try it by hand first to make sure you undestand the commands correctly...	14:13
Delair	can i do the same with neutron floaintg ip associate	14:14
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larsks	You can, sure, but it's a little trickier. Using the nova commands is easier and accomplishes the same thing.	14:15
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Delair	ok cool Thanks Larsks	14:15
larsks	Using neutron, you need to first determine which fixed ip was assigned to your instance.	14:15
Delair	but with nova it will work the same way RIGHT?	14:16
larsks	Right. Nova just talks to neutron for the networking.	14:16
Delair	what is the difference between nova floatingip associate and neutron floating ip associate then ?	14:16
larsks	Functionally, there is none.	14:17
larsks	Using the nova command is simpler because you can just specify an instance name or uuid.	14:17
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larsks	And nova does the work required to provide the necessary information to neutron.	14:17
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Delair	Thanks again let ma try	14:18
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aryklein	I am deploying an openstack cloud (one controller/network node with 4 compute nodes) in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. It's a critical/production environment and I am not an Openstack guru. Rather I'm very new in Openstack. So I need a long term support Openstack version. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive and my needs, is it correct to choose Icehouse instead of Juno?	15:01
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morganfainberg	Madkiss: here now. I'm pacific timezone. So this is about as early as I show up most days. Sometimes later.	15:01
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aryklein	Please help me to know if I am in the right way	15:02
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larsks	aryklein: You're probably better off talking asking that question directly of your support partner. That said, openstack is a rapidly moving targets, and each release typically fixes a large number of problems with the previous release. Planning to pin your environment on a particular release at this stage in the game might not be a great idea.	15:03
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aryklein	larsks: but (in your experience) moving from one version to another is it complicated for someone with little experience? I mean... it could broke all the environment?	15:06
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larsks	aryklein: It can be tricky, sure. It's good to try something like that in a test environment first, but that's true for just about any complex application.	15:08
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aryklein	larsks: ok... so you recommend me to start with Juno?	15:10
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larsks	aryklein: Well, if you are concerned about support, I think you need to take that question to whomever you are going to be paying for support and get their recommendation.	15:11
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Madkiss	morganfainberg: not a problem. I was just a bit desperate ...	15:13
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aryklein	larsks: In this company we don't have support for that. I'm going to be the sysadmin of this cloud :)	15:14
larsks	In that case, yeah, I would probably start with Juno.	15:14
Madkiss	morganfainberg: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/TKbNvKvK11a -- is that massive amount of requests to MySQL expected? :(	15:14
aryklein	larsks: thanks for your recommendation!	15:15
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aryklein	larsks: I'll start with Juno	15:15
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morganfainberg	Madkiss: keystone is stupidly chatty to the back end :(. The order i see here is fix scale issue of token table crushing the db. The next step is to work on optimizing how we chat to the backend. Now we do have caching capabilities. Which do use memcache when enabled and configured that can help. This does suffer from some pitfalls in eventlet when not using	15:18
morganfainberg	the pool, but the housekeeping code / other bad things aren't done that make token storage in memcache bad.	15:18
morganfainberg	Madkiss: that is next on my hit list to address (same with ldap chatty ness)	15:18
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Madkiss	morganfainberg: I got keystone up and running in Apache + Mod_wsgi actually	15:19
Madkiss	compared to eventlet, I see an improvement	15:19
Madkiss	(220 tokens/s with eventlet, 270 tokens/s with mod_wsgi)	15:19
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Madkiss	Still, Kristian is close to a heart attack every time he looks into this	15:19
morganfainberg	We also have a ping that happens in the sql to make sure the connections are live. There was an attempt to optimize it, but that caused bigger issues.	15:20
morganfainberg	There are many things we can be better about, but it's nothing we can wave a wand and fix.	15:21
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Madkiss	morganfainberg: Is there any chance to make a kilo keystone work with a juno cloud? I'm thinking about leveraging the advantages of KLWT with a Juno setup.	15:21
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morganfainberg	Yes. We typically work with older OpenStack deployments.	15:21
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morganfainberg	It is one of my goals to continue to do so.	15:21
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morganfainberg	No guarantees as that isn't tested today besides folks just doing it. But we do work to keep our apis stable for that. Now running a new keystone on the same server as your other apis might prove to be an issue because of dependencies b	15:23
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morganfainberg	But that is something you can probably work around.	15:23
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Madkiss	well. I'm a debian developer, and I know how to package ubuntu stuff, so that shouldn't be too big of an issue	15:23
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morganfainberg	The klwt will still be chatty to the backend, but for different reasons. You will need to reconstruct data for the tokens on validate.	15:24
Madkiss	If I understand you correctly, I would take packages from the current snapshot stuff, build keystone from there, install it into a juno cloud and have a look?	15:24
morganfainberg	You might run into issues if you share the Python install that keystone uses with any other OpenStack services. If keystone is kilo and the rest is Juno.	15:25
Madkiss	hmkay	15:25
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Madkiss	morganfainberg: are you talking about stuff like ths oslo components?	15:26
morganfainberg	Yep.	15:26
morganfainberg	And even other Python libs.	15:26
Madkiss	let's see	15:27
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geaaru	hi, how can i configure nova to use cinder v2 api ? currently I have this value on catalog_info: cinder_catalog_info = volume:cinder:internalURL	15:31
geaaru	thanks in advance	15:31
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Muntaner	hello to everyone	15:39
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georgem1	do you have any recommendations for the partitioning scheme of the compute nodes? no shared storage, KVM, Ubuntu	16:05
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georgem1	I'm thinking /boot 500 MB, swap 128 GB (50% of RAM), / 50 GB and the rest for /var; there will be no memory overcommit so I don't want to waste more space for swap	16:06
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Muntaner	guys, I can't see the console of my VMs	16:06
Muntaner	vnc seems to have problems	16:06
Muntaner	anybody can help me?	16:06
Muntaner	I can see the consoles in LAN, but not via public IP	16:07
larsks	geaaru: it looks like you need to set cinder_catalog_info = volume2:cinder:internalURL	16:07
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larsks	Muntaner: what does "can't see" mean? Are you getting an error message? Some other behavior?	16:07
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Muntaner	larsks, I see a "white screen" where there should be the console	16:08
Muntaner	any problem particular	16:08
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Muntaner	naturally, I'm talkin about horizon	16:08
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geaaru	larsks: ok, or volumev2:cinderv2:internalURL if I create a different service name on keystone configuration for cinder v2, is it correct?	16:08
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Muntaner	oh wait, larsks, after some time I get a timeout	16:08
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larsks	Muntaner: On the command line, what do you see if you run "nova get-vnc-console <your_instance> novnc"?	16:09
larsks	Muntaner: Or, alternately, what url does the "click here to show only console" link point to?	16:09
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Muntaner	larsks, what should I insert in <your_instance> ?	16:09
Muntaner	larsks, points to: http:/<public IP>:6080/vnc_auto.html?token=etc etc	16:10
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larsks	Okay. There went the easy answer (often people have the base url misconfigured, but that looks fine).	16:11
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larsks	On your compute hosts, what is the value of vncserver_listen?	16:11
Muntaner	0.0.0.0	16:11
larsks	Okay. Incidentally, is this an all-in-one configuration or do you have separate compute hosts?	16:12
Muntaner	larsks, it is an all-in-one	16:12
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Muntaner	all components in one server	16:12
Muntaner	(rude, I know)	16:12
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larsks	Got it. Hmm. Have you checked that nova-novncproxy is running?	16:12
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Muntaner	nova-novncproxy start/running, process 28888	16:13
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Muntaner	do you need conf files, larsks ?	16:13
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larsks	Not yet :). Trying to find an actual problem first, other than the browser behavior.	16:13
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Muntaner	larsks, can it be a port problem? I mean, 6080 port not workin?	16:14
larsks	Can you confirm that you can connect to port 6080?	16:14
larsks	Yeah.	16:14
larsks	So, (a) check with 'netstat' or 'ss' that novncproxy is actually listening on port 6080,	16:14
Muntaner	can you give me a rapid workaround to check if I can? :)	16:14
larsks	and then confirm that you can connect to port 6080 using your public ip address.	16:14
larsks	E.g:	16:14
larsks	curl http://<public ip>:6080	16:14
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larsks	Do that from wherever you are running your browser, not from the host running horizion. Unless that's the same place.	16:15
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Muntaner	larsks, it hangs	16:16
Muntaner	maybe we gotcha?	16:16
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larsks	Possibly. So, first, did you confirm there is something listening on port 6080? What is the output of 'netstat -tlnp \| grep 6080'?	16:16
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Muntaner	larsks, should I run that on the openstack server?	16:16
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larsks	We're checking if novncproxy is listening on port 6080. So run it wherever novncproxy is running.	16:17
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larsks	That should be your openstack server, yes.	16:17
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Muntaner	tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 28888/python	16:17
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larsks	Okay, that looks good.	16:17
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larsks	Does your iptables configuration drop connections by default? Do you have a rule permitting inbound traffic on port 6080?	16:18
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Muntaner	larsks, I can't access directly to the network configuration - I should talk with the administrator	16:19
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larsks	You don't have root access on your openstack server?	16:19
Muntaner	larsks, yep	16:19
Muntaner	but not to the router	16:19
larsks	Okay, right, but I was first asking about the iptables configuration on your openstack server.	16:19
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larsks	It is also possible that there is a network firewall in place, of course, but let's verify that the server isn't the problem first.	16:20
Muntaner	larsks, I never specified such rules	16:20
Muntaner	larsks, at 90% there is a firewall	16:20
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larsks	Okay. So far, everything else looks just fine.	16:20
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Muntaner	larsks, thanks :)	16:21
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georgem1	Muntaner: do a tcpdump on port 6080 when you open the console in the browser and this way you see if the traffic reaches your controller	16:30
Noice	.j #letssee	16:30
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Muntaner	georgem1: seems like I have just the port 80 open	16:35
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georgem1	Muntaner:well, if you see no traffic reaching the server on 6080 then something else is blocking before it gets there; you should talk to your network admins but if you have access to another server in the same network, you could try to telnet from there to controller 6080 and see if it works	16:38
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Muntaner	georgem1, I'm testing with nz on the remote IP	16:40
Muntaner	just 80 succeds	16:41
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Madkiss	What would be appropriate measures to speed up nova-api?	17:13
Madkiss	Running it inside of mod_wsgi with apache seems to have the opposite effect	17:13
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georgem1	Madkiss: more workers?	17:27
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Madkiss	georgem1: i think that would improve the overall capacity but not the actual latency for individual requests	17:28
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georgem1	Madkiss:well, what's the bottleneck? db calls? token validation?	17:29
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Madkiss	georgem1: I can determine what time keystone needs to issue tokens, and then I see the nova request and something inside nova happens	17:30
Madkiss	what would be a good method to properly profile nove-api?	17:30
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fii	Hello Gurus	17:32
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fii	We're testing docker with openstack	17:32
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Madkiss	Welcome to a world full of pain	17:33
fii	But when we try nova boot --image larsks/thttpd --flavor m1.small test0	17:33
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fii	We're getting \| ca9a73b7-604c-404b-8e77-980937f77f16 \| test0 \| ERROR \| - \| NOSTATE \| \|	17:33
Madkiss	what version of nova-docker did you use?	17:33
fii	Madkiss: Its getting better	17:33
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Madkiss	I don't think so.	17:33
fii	Madkiss: We're testing it on devstack	17:34
larsks	fii: if it's going to ERROR state, there is probably a useful error message in the nova-compute.log.	17:34
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Madkiss	fii: Whatever is in HEAD of nova-docker won't work with juno.	17:34
Madkiss	There are some additional patches required.	17:34
larsks	fii: Also, if you are using nova-docker master...yeah, what Madkiss just said.	17:34
larsks	Or you can pin your nova-docker repository at the stable/juno branch, and use that.	17:34
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Madkiss	larsks: I don't think that works either	17:35
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larsks	Madkiss: If your devstack is pinned at stable/juno and your nova-docker is at stable/juno, it will work.	17:35
fii	will this work with RDO ?	17:35
larsks	But for devstack master, you need patches beyond the current nova-docker master, I think.	17:35
fii	Cool	17:35
Madkiss	fii: the reality is that you don't want to combine docker with OpenStack anyway.	17:35
larsks	fii: should. That's what I've been using.	17:35
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fii	OK...Thanks for that	17:36
Madkiss	These are two worls so different from each other that there is no way to combine them meaningfully in a production setup	17:36
larsks	Oh, I dunno. I can see some use cases. OpenStack provides a lot more networking flexibility than you get with straight docker.	17:36
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larsks	But there are certainly improvements to be made.	17:36
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Madkiss	I think waiting for LXD is a better idea to be honest.	17:37
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larsks	I am sure people will end up using both :)	17:37
Madkiss	oh well.	17:38
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georgem1	Madkiss: the best article I read about tuning Openstack is http://blog.gridcentric.com/bid/318277/Boosting-OpenStack-s-Parallel-Performance (you'll have to read it cached by Google)	17:42
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georgem1	Madkiss: it's probably not very relevant anymore, but still a good read	17:43
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aneto_	hello everyone, I am having an issue with cinder.volume.manager giving an error "Unable to create export for volume", now I cannot attach volumes, however I can delete and create them.	18:03
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nosleep77	hi guys, how do I change "admin_state_up" to false/disabled in neutron agent-list?	18:15
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ly2en	nosleep77: tamper with the agent ?	18:17
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nosleep77	ly2en: i shutdown the neutron node but it only changes the alive status to xxx not admin state	18:20
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edd12121	Hello im making a questionnaire about RPG 13 questions multiple choice is there any female who would mind to answer this questionnaire since most of players who answered are male if yes the link is http://freeonlinesurveys.com/s.asp?sid=uywbo4p7amls16t624047 this is for a research project if yesthanks	18:25
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dudy	security-doc : does anyone know where the compilation documentation is? it seems to work differently from user-guide and other documentation fellows	18:54
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dudy	I just want the ability to compile the documentation into html...	18:56
dudy	internally we'll likely do some documentation edits on it	18:56
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kupo24z	Sam-I-Am: You around?	19:40
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Sam-I-Am	kupo24z: yeah, for a short while	19:41
Sam-I-Am	dudy: compilation documentation?	19:41
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dudy	Sam-I-Am: indeed. I just wasn't sure why there's no pom.xml in the repository	19:43
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dudy	and I'd also like to build operations-guide too...	19:44
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dudy	if we make anything generic enough, I'd PR it back... no promises... but our devs and folks would like to use Dash docsets... so I've been hacking up documentation scripts for that	19:44
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Sam-I-Am	where were you looking for the security guide content?	19:45
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dudy	https://github.com/openstack/security-doc	19:45
dudy	we want to generate from source, to add and alter the docs a bit... link things together... maybe add CVE info and other stuff	19:46
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Sam-I-Am	most of this stuff is docbook, with the tool chain described here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo	19:46
Sam-I-Am	there's a movement to convert everything to rst	19:46
dudy	ah, ok... that's the word I was looking for... thanks	19:47
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harmw	hm, how come when I clean up everything LBaaS I suddenly get floatingip disconnecting, or going in some kind of unacessible stale state	19:52
harmw	LBaaS is biting, somewhere	19:52
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dudy	I'm already starting to understand why one would move from docbook to rst	20:00
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ly2en	http://www.networkworld.com/article/2888972/opensource-subnet/openstack-board-member-rob-hirschfeld-on-the-impact-of-devops-sdn-docker-and-more.html	20:01
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zimboboyd	I installed the Openstack cloud (on VIrtualbox) for the first time. I used Mirantis Fuel. I want to test Murano with Docker. Now my question is where can i find a download of the image "Ubuntu14.04 x64 (pre-installed murano agent and docker)" ?	20:22
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ShaunR	Am i correct in saying if the vm's are connected to the internet through a bridge on the compute node that this is considered the legecy nova networking?	20:58
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tkramer	Hi Jim, I'm free when you are	20:59
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tkramer	oops.. sww	21:00
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* ShaunR tap tap... is this thing on?		21:04
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Sam-I-Am	ShaunR: that could also be provider-type neutron networks	21:06
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ShaunR	where is the docs on that?	21:07
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Sam-I-Am	ShaunR: there arent many. how did you stumble upon this question?	21:09
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ShaunR	Digging into openstack to see if it's right for me, currently i've got a home grown setup, vm's are bridged with custom ebtables rules to control traffic to/from vm's.	21:10
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ShaunR	I really dont like the idea of forwarding all my hosts (compute) traffic through an additional point of failure.	21:10
ShaunR	seams like an extra level of complexity thats not really needed	21:11
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ShaunR	but at the same time i want to run openstack as it's ment to be run, legecy puts a bad taste in my mouth for a new infrastructure :)	21:11
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Sam-I-Am	so, you have a couple of choices here	21:12
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ShaunR	Just a FYI, this would be for a provider network. Providing VM's to hosting customers.	21:12
Sam-I-Am	first, if you have a suitable hardware network infra, you can push all L3/routing operations out to it using provider networks. if you've used VMware, this is similar to vSwitches	21:12
Sam-I-Am	well, provider in this sense might mean something different	21:13
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Sam-I-Am	provider in this sense simply means networks are really managed by hardware infra	21:13
Sam-I-Am	in other words, your customers/tenants cannot create/change/delete networks	21:14
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ShaunR	our infra now is simple, servers are deployed with Xen and our backend software installed.	21:15
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ShaunR	there are 2 vlans, one management, one customer	21:16
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ShaunR	vm's are created, networking is through tap/bridge interface, custom firewall rules to prevent spoofing, ip stealing, etc	21:16
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Sam-I-Am	so your customers can't create their own networks	21:20
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ShaunR	no	21:21
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ShaunR	they get what we give them :)	21:22
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Sam-I-Am	do you want that capability?	21:23
Sam-I-Am	its sort of the "cloudy way" for IaaS	21:23
ShaunR	I suppose it could be a useful feature down the road to add.	21:23
Sam-I-Am	you can do both	21:24
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Sam-I-Am	to avoid the single-point-of-failure (network node), you'll either use provider networks (that is, provided by the hardware infra) and/or DVR	21:25
ShaunR	i could see it being useful for customers who want to have a private network for internal traffic between vm's	21:25
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ShaunR	what your talking about doesnt require creating a seperate vlan/subnet for each vm i hope?	21:26
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Sam-I-Am	nope	21:33
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Sam-I-Am	so, in a fully IaaS environment, tenants can create their own networks and they're usually overlays... vxlan or gre	21:34
Sam-I-Am	so no extra infrastructure required to make them work	21:34
Sam-I-Am	they can be purely internal to the customer, or they can connect to the outside world	21:34
capitol	i'm installing openstack for the first time on debian, and are currently installing the nova components on the controller, and i get a question about what api's i should enable, i can't find anything about this in the documentation	21:34
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capitol	i'm installing icehouse btw	21:34
\|splat\|	is there a way to manually refresh teh DB backend to the Admin>Hypervisors page? I believe the usage stats are way off	21:35
Sam-I-Am	capitol: which instructions are you using?	21:35
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capitol	Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/ch_nova.html#compute-service	21:35
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Sam-I-Am	so, this is not going to work	21:35
Sam-I-Am	first, the juno docs dont work with icehouse. second, the debian stuff is broke.	21:35
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capitol	as i couldn't navigate to the debian-icehouse docs on the site, it just redirected me back	21:36
Sam-I-Am	capitol: we removed the debian docs because they're bad	21:36
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Sam-I-Am	which might explain why you can't find what you want	21:36
capitol	Sam-I-Am: aha, good to know	21:36
Sam-I-Am	so here's your choices...	21:37
Sam-I-Am	continue to use debian, disable debconf, and mostly follow the ubuntu guide (with a few hacks)	21:37
Sam-I-Am	or just use ubuntu	21:37
CrtxReavr	What is 'Aero?'	21:37
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Sam-I-Am	or... use debian and install from source, i guess.	21:37
capitol	Sam-I-Am: thanks for the info :)	21:37
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Sam-I-Am	imho, debian wheezy is too old for modern networking features	21:38
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capitol	aha, yes, will i have better luck with jessie?	21:38
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Sam-I-Am	yeah, except the packages still may not work	21:39
SamYaple	capitol: going from source on debian is the only way to go	21:40
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capitol	ok, i'll see how far i get, and then maybe switch to ubuntu	21:40
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capitol	but that would require a trip to the server hall and a reinstall, so that won't happen today	21:41
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SamYaple	from source, you _should_ be alright, but youll likely have to pull in newer packages for some things	21:41
Sam-I-Am	aight, time to hit the bus home, see y'all in a bit	21:41
SamYaple	see ya Sam-I-Am	21:41
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I-Am-Sam	Now that he is gone, lets make one thing clear	21:41
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FatDarrel	hey everyone!	23:26
FatDarrel	I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get some help on tempest	23:26
clarkb	FatDarrel: #openstack-qa is a good place to start	23:27
FatDarrel	clarkb: thanks	23:27
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ShaunR	hmm docs talk about editing /etc/nova/nova.conf file and finding the [database] section... there isnt one?	23:32
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Sam-I-Am	ShaunR: it this ubuntu?	23:47
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