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Rivera | Can anyone assist with my Neutron interfaces? I created them with the --no-security-groups option but they still get created with the DROP rules in iptables | 01:21 |
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RodrigoUSA | hi :) | 01:24 |
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morsik | SamYaple: i found my main problem with rabbitmq! :D | 05:59 |
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morsik | SamYaple: the case was: i had disk_free_limit set to 1.0 memory relative. i had 2G of ram so it worked. after reboot i had 8G of ram but only 5G free :D | 06:00 |
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morsik | that was whole problem with rabbit in my case -.- | 06:00 |
morsik | that's why it worked on other controllers… there were still 2G | 06:00 |
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SamYaple | morsik: awemsome! glad you got it figured out | 06:07 |
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morsik | SamYaple: thanks for help anyway ;) | 08:00 |
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morsik | now it works all nice | 08:01 |
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shellox_ | does anyone some non-us based openstack providers, which sell swift storage? | 08:10 |
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shellox_ | similar to rackspace files | 08:10 |
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homegrown | shellox: not 100% sure, but I think rackspace offering in the UK's offering doesn't replicate to the US .. if it's a legal requirement you're trying to deal with. | 08:23 |
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neophy_ | Hi, I already enabled metadata via dhcp namespace using : http://techbackground.blogspot.in/2013/06/metadata-via-dhcp-namespace.html. I want to set another static route in the VM but setting static route goes a way after few second. How to add another static route do vm? any help> | 08:23 |
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shellox_ | homegrown: it's still a US company -> don't trust it | 08:33 |
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homegrown | shellox: ;-), well then the safest is to roll your own. Here's a link to some public cloud providers: https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/public-clouds/ | 08:35 |
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_nick | shellox_: we're in the uk and offer ceph-based storage with the swift-compatible api deployed, if that's any help ;) | 08:38 |
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vinayus | hi how can remove a compute node from packstack setup?? i added them to AIO but now i want to remove them... | 08:49 |
_nick | (i should add that we're on that list on openstack.org - datacentred) | 08:49 |
SamYaple | encrypt before sending your data off, you should never trust anyone | 08:49 |
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pkircher | dep on the data stored but generaly i agree .. | 08:55 |
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pkircher | data should be encryped or just transfered via ssl to a trusted party | 08:55 |
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SamYaple | "trusted party" is the part I disagree with. if the data is not encrypted or you are not the only one who holds the encryption keys you can't rely on it being secured | 08:57 |
pkircher | dnp | 08:57 |
pkircher | dep on the data .. | 08:57 |
pkircher | to be honest | 08:57 |
pkircher | if its customer data .. sure | 08:57 |
pkircher | if its static assets .. well no need for that | 08:58 |
SamYaple | that statement doesn't depend on the data, some data just isn't valuable | 08:58 |
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morsik | SamYaple: one more question: i'm unable to start more than 11 instances on one host. quota is not exceeded, and cpu/ram/disk limits aren't too. error in log says: NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 09:10 |
morsik | is there any limit for vifs or something? | 09:10 |
SamYaple | there is a quota limit with neutron for ports | 09:10 |
morsik | I think I saw something like this… | 09:11 |
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SamYaple | but i think the default is 50 | 09:11 |
morsik | i started 32 instances. limit is indeed 50, but i even increased it to 150 | 09:11 |
morsik | but that didn't helped | 09:11 |
SamYaple | are you trying to launch an instance on the provider network (external) | 09:11 |
morsik | no, i'm using neutron with ml2 plugin | 09:11 |
morsik | using openvsiwtch with gre | 09:11 |
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morsik | openvswitch* | 09:12 |
SamYaple | right, but did you setup an external/provider network? | 09:12 |
SamYaple | can you post the output of `neutron net-list` | 09:12 |
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morsik | ah, you mean external world link. yes sure, floating ip and other stuff works | 09:15 |
morsik | instances starts correctly… until i reach 11 on one compute node | 09:15 |
morsik | so now i have 22 (2 compute nodes) | 09:15 |
morsik | and i can't start intsance anymore | 09:15 |
SamYaple | same exact instance type? same flavor/network/etc? | 09:16 |
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morsik | yep. 1G RAM, 1VCPU. i have 4core hosts for testing with 32G of ram (i didn't modified overcommit settings, so it should works… it has 8.0 overcommit ratio for vcpu) | 09:17 |
SamYaple | all launched on the tenant/tunnel/gre network? you havent confirmed that yet | 09:18 |
morsik | log fragment: https://dpaste.de/ZZLY | 09:18 |
morsik | SamYaple: yep, all in the same net with /24 | 09:18 |
morsik | i just clicked "Launch instance", selected centos image, and selected my flavor with 1VCPU, 1G RAM and 10G of disk (it's not default, this is my flavor) | 09:19 |
morsik | and entered "32 instances" to run | 09:19 |
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SamYaple | can you post the log with debug+verbose for nova and neutron with the binding_failed message | 09:19 |
morsik | and only 21 of them was started (22 is some other) | 09:19 |
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turicasto | hi guys | 09:22 |
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SamYaple | hello turicasto | 09:22 |
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turicasto | I have a question, if I boot a virtual machine from image the data that i manage on it are persistent or I have to boot from volume? | 09:26 |
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pylot | its peristent for nova until you terminate the instance | 09:27 |
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morsik | SamYaple: log from compute: http://files.morsik.darkserver.it/.hidden/compute.log neutron doesn't have anything interesting at all. | 09:28 |
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morsik | i'm not sure where should i look after enabling debug in neutron… openvswitch-agent or l3-agent for things? | 09:29 |
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SamYaple | so its always the 11th? | 09:30 |
morsik | 12. 11 starts | 09:30 |
SamYaple | can you deletel a few instances and recreate them, and its always teh 11th? | 09:30 |
morsik | yep | 09:30 |
morsik | tried that few times already | 09:30 |
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morsik | on both compute nodes. every instance after 11th hung with 'paused' state in libvirt, and after timeout i'm seeing "No valid host" in Horizon, and things i posted above | 09:31 |
olutayo | info olutayo | 09:31 |
morsik | then it's deleted from libvirt | 09:31 |
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SamYaple | hmm yea. can you post the neutron agent show for the compute nodes? | 09:32 |
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morsik | SamYaple: you mean neutron agent-list? | 09:33 |
SamYaple | agent-show | 09:34 |
morsik | show… what? :) | 09:34 |
SamYaple | `neutron help agent-show` | 09:34 |
SamYaple | for the compute nodes agents | 09:34 |
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morsik | SamYaple: https://dpaste.de/xVOM | 09:40 |
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morsik | (yeah, L3 agent is wrong here as i know…) | 09:40 |
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morsik | the same with dhcp… | 09:40 |
morsik | there is even "devices": 11 in openvswitch agent :D | 09:40 |
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SamYaple | compute03 looks like its doing fine | 09:41 |
SamYaple | whats differnet? | 09:41 |
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morsik | SamYaple: it's actually broken haha :D bios have problems with virtualization. nothing is started there… | 09:41 |
morsik | maybe that's problem? maybe openstack thinks that ports are allocated there but they arent? | 09:42 |
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SamYaple | maybe | 09:42 |
SamYaple | this feels like a quota limit | 09:42 |
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SamYaple | can you check those again for the project your are in? | 09:42 |
SamYaple | maybe set them to -1 just for kicks | 09:42 |
morsik | yes i just checked them and set very high… | 09:43 |
morsik | but i'll do -1 then | 09:43 |
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SamYaple | the only time I have see this is when you try to launch an instance on a flat or vlan network without the appropriate bridge_mappings (which you dont have) | 09:44 |
SamYaple | can you provide net-list and net-show for each network? | 09:44 |
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morsik | lol… i can't pipe net-list to awk cause i have polish character in network name :D | 09:47 |
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SamYaple | use the uuid | 09:48 |
morsik | yeah i did that :P | 09:48 |
morsik | i just wanted to use for in bash >: | 09:48 |
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morsik | i renamed this net anyway | 09:49 |
morsik | SamYaple: https://dpaste.de/1U6L | 09:49 |
morsik | i'm starting vms in 'my net' | 09:49 |
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SamYaple | yea all looks good. im not sure at the moment | 09:58 |
morsik | SamYaple: yeah, but i'm sure not. | 09:58 |
morsik | i fixed this… | 09:58 |
morsik | doing… systemctl stop openstack-nova-compute.service on currently broken node | 09:58 |
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morsik | :D | 09:58 |
morsik | thanks! :D | 09:58 |
morsik | funny it doens' | 09:58 |
morsik | bad it doens't try to run instance somewhere else when node fails :( | 09:59 |
SamYaple | its working across the environment now? | 09:59 |
morsik | yep | 09:59 |
morsik | all started | 09:59 |
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elurkki | Is there some way to hide shared network from some tenants ? | 09:59 |
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azemati | neutron network:dhcp status is down and dont have any log. any idea? | 10:32 |
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azemati | neutron network:dhcp status is down and dont have any log. any idea? | 10:34 |
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azemati | neutron network:dhcp status is down and dont have any log. any idea? | 10:36 |
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azemati | any body??????????????????????????? | 10:40 |
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pkircher | are you trying to enforce a answer by asking over and over again | 10:48 |
pkircher | its irc .. idle and wait | 10:48 |
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pkircher | if noone answers .. well bad luck | 10:48 |
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pkircher | its community support | 10:48 |
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pkircher | not like you have a right to get an answer @azemati | 10:49 |
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jamhacktor | Does anyone have an idea about IDP configuration on keystone ? | 11:12 |
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jamhacktor | boring ho tum log | 11:15 |
jamhacktor | you people are boring | 11:15 |
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nagyz | hi | 12:13 |
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nagyz | I've started to play with ironic (kilo) and I can get as far as booting a node. however, after successful kernel + ramdisk load I get an initramfs shell. Isn't it supposed to boot from a ramdisk and dd from iSCSI to the local disk? | 12:14 |
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ganjawizard | hello fellas! can somebody explain me how many servers would i need for +- 50 customers for a HA openstack deployment | 13:19 |
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pkircher | dep on how many cores you have ..+ what the tennants need | 13:24 |
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pkircher | and what kind of deployment you looking for .. just the basic stuff or cinder / heat as well | 13:24 |
pkircher | thats not a question you can answer shortly | 13:25 |
ganjawizard | i plan on all services | 13:25 |
pkircher | :) | 13:25 |
pkircher | well .. nice .. how many vms each tennant ? | 13:25 |
pkircher | and how beefy are the nodes | 13:25 |
pkircher | ? | 13:25 |
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ganjawizard | depends on what kind of vm they want to run. maybe a mix of windows and linux for docker container | 13:26 |
pkircher | + i hope you got at least a 10g interconnect | 13:26 |
pkircher | better a 40g bond .. for ceph | 13:26 |
ganjawizard | hmmm | 13:26 |
OutBackDingo | curious...... | 13:27 |
OutBackDingo | 40gb bond for ceph ? | 13:27 |
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pkircher | ya if you do quite a bit on the blockstorage | 13:28 |
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pkircher | ceph is a pain in the arse if it cant sync properly | 13:28 |
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pkircher | + the mem of course | 13:28 |
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OutBackDingo | pkircher: looked at RiakCS as a backend for openstack ? | 13:28 |
pkircher | riak might be nice for object store | 13:28 |
pkircher | but that wont work with blockdevices | 13:28 |
ganjawizard | actually i only know how many customer. on friday after a talk with my boss i will know more about what they actually want to run | 13:28 |
pkircher | nor for the general IOPS problem | 13:29 |
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pkircher | special not if you fuse mount ceph | 13:29 |
pkircher | :) | 13:29 |
OutBackDingo | pkircher: backed by a huge ZFS array | 13:29 |
pkircher | oh dear i hope you on bsd | 13:29 |
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pkircher | zfs on linux is a HUGE PAIN IN THE ARSE | 13:29 |
OutBackDingo | pkircher: yes, its BSD | 13:30 |
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ganjawizard | bsd? zfs? | 13:30 |
OutBackDingo | i wouldnt touch zfsonlinux | 13:30 |
pkircher | nether would i .. did experiment with btrfs .. | 13:30 |
OutBackDingo | ganjawizard: yes, FreeBSD has ZFS :) | 13:31 |
pkircher | but it lies the crap out of it | 13:31 |
OutBackDingo | btrfs still needs to grow up | 13:31 |
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pkircher | ya thats what they say about zfs on linux as well | 13:31 |
pkircher | we moved back to ext4 | 13:31 |
OutBackDingo | if linux, XFS... if BSD, ZFS | 13:31 |
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pkircher | ganja dont touch openstack if you dont even know os or filesystems | 13:32 |
pkircher | you gona break your balls at ovs | 13:32 |
pkircher | :) | 13:32 |
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pkircher | at the latest | 13:32 |
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OutBackDingo | pkircher: blah ovs.... | 13:33 |
pkircher | :P | 13:33 |
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OutBackDingo | odl is a better way | 13:33 |
ganjawizard | i have to ... but i am not the only one, just gathering some infos | 13:33 |
pkircher | odl is just a controller for OF | 13:33 |
pkircher | ovs it self can be controlled by odl | 13:33 |
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OutBackDingo | correct | 13:33 |
pkircher | and to be fair odl sucks balls | 13:33 |
ganjawizard | i thought an 2 controllers 2 computes and 2 storages ... 6 servers | 13:33 |
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pkircher | in terms of distribution | 13:34 |
pkircher | and failover | 13:34 |
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pkircher | onos looks great so far | 13:34 |
OutBackDingo | odl neeed lotsa love but does work | 13:34 |
pkircher | it does i know but as soon as the controlles dies the switch falls back to maclearning | 13:34 |
pkircher | or wors does not respond at all | 13:35 |
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OutBackDingo | pkircher: we have a few juniper srx series also | 13:35 |
pkircher | and the bad thing is you can have the switch just on 1 controller at the same time | 13:35 |
pkircher | i looked into onos briefly | 13:35 |
pkircher | cant wait till that gets into production grade | 13:35 |
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pkircher | i got 2 pica 8 here .. | 13:36 |
pkircher | not a huge infra just a 3 blade construct | 13:36 |
pkircher | 48 nodes | 13:36 |
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OutBackDingo | ive got 56 blades | 13:36 |
OutBackDingo | nothing large | 13:36 |
pkircher | ya .. different world .. im just a small shop :P | 13:36 |
OutBackDingo | pkircher: its my lab :P | 13:37 |
pkircher | ya ive seen +1000 blades genetic lab farms .. | 13:37 |
OutBackDingo | pkircher: no literally 2 27U racks in my house.... | 13:37 |
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pkircher | 2X27 gets you 56 blades ? | 13:38 |
pkircher | my blade got 10 U on its own .. and i have 3 of them | 13:38 |
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OutBackDingo | pkircher: their in 4 bladecnter chassis | 13:38 |
pkircher | well i got 48 then | 13:38 |
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pkircher | 16 blades in 3 chasis | 13:38 |
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pkircher | each | 13:39 |
pkircher | .. | 13:39 |
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pkircher | cheap ass dell m1000e blades | 13:39 |
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OutBackDingo | mine only hold 14 blades, what you runinng HP ? | 13:39 |
OutBackDingo | ahhhhh | 13:39 |
pkircher | nah dell m1000e .. | 13:39 |
pkircher | 16 blades each | 13:39 |
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OutBackDingo | their not awful bad | 13:39 |
pkircher | i got them cheap | 13:39 |
pkircher | about 50k for all 3 together | 13:40 |
OutBackDingo | mine are all HX5 | 13:40 |
pkircher | 4.5 tb ram | 13:40 |
OutBackDingo | hell... im not even 20K in | 13:40 |
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pkircher | and .. 16*2*6 cores | 13:40 |
pkircher | *3* | 13:40 |
pkircher | lol .. | 13:40 |
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OutBackDingo | though you have a ton of ram | 13:40 |
pkircher | ya | 13:40 |
pkircher | and the 15k rpms .. | 13:40 |
pkircher | well | 13:40 |
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pkircher | as i sayed .. im a small fish | 13:41 |
pkircher | so nothing worth mentioning | 13:41 |
OutBackDingo | so you like onos huh? | 13:41 |
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pkircher | over odl yes | 13:41 |
OutBackDingo | interesting | 13:41 |
pkircher | floodlight is not bad ether | 13:41 |
pkircher | in the end its the same kafkra deploy as with the latest odl .. | 13:42 |
OutBackDingo | pkircher: you did a raw openstack or used RDO or Fuel ? | 13:42 |
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pkircher | raw | 13:42 |
pkircher | got a friend at high velocity | 13:42 |
pkircher | who gave me a hand there | 13:42 |
OutBackDingo | pkircher: that was painful :) | 13:42 |
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pkircher | nah not that bad .. | 13:42 |
pkircher | its who you know | 13:43 |
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pkircher | small fish here so i had to take advantage of resources at hand .. | 13:43 |
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pkircher | but ya .. ganjawizard you gona hate your life if you do it for the first time | 13:44 |
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ashishjain | hello | 13:47 |
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ashishjain | I am facing a problem which I suspect it probably due to payload size. | 13:47 |
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ashishjain | I have tried to play around with dnsmasq | 13:47 |
ashishjain | by increasing it to 9000 bytest | 13:48 |
ashishjain | but somehow i still the issue | 13:48 |
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ashishjain | Has anyone faced a similar problem | 13:48 |
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ashishjain | I keep getting 504 error | 13:48 |
ashishjain | however if the payload size is small I get the response :) | 13:49 |
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CRACKBOY2006 | hello | 13:51 |
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CRACKBOY2006 | anyone here? | 13:53 |
CRACKBOY2006 | i need help in openstack with xenserver 6.5 | 13:53 |
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ashishjain | larsks: you there | 14:05 |
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larsks | Maaaaaaaaaybe. | 14:07 |
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ashishjain | larsks : :) | 14:08 |
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ashishjain | larsks: Hey just see if you have seen something like this | 14:09 |
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ashishjain | I have got a nodejs app in a docker container which in turn querys from solr container | 14:09 |
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ashishjain | all on openstack | 14:09 |
larsks | Okay. | 14:10 |
ashishjain | compute node using nova-docker driver | 14:10 |
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ashishjain | I have a lb frontending node container and when I send a request which in turn sends back huge amount of data | 14:11 |
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ashishjain | I get a 504 error | 14:11 |
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ashishjain | whereas If I send a request which for which actually there is nothing exist in solr db I get back the response | 14:11 |
ashishjain | node talks to solr | 14:11 |
larsks | You're using a neutron lb for this? | 14:11 |
ashishjain | my browser talks to node via lb | 14:12 |
ashishjain | yes correct | 14:12 |
ashishjain | ha proxy | 14:12 |
ashishjain | with neutron lb | 14:12 |
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larsks | Okay. First question, do you see the request on the node? Looking at either logs or tcpdump or something. If yes, the next thing to do is probably to configure haproxy logging and see what's going on there. | 14:12 |
ashishjain | yes I do see request at the node -> request at solr-> response at node -> but nor response on the browser | 14:13 |
ashishjain | this is for requests which return good amount of data | 14:13 |
ashishjain | for requests which does not a have a corresponding row | 14:14 |
pkircher | id try to serve a simple json file with nginx .. | 14:14 |
ashishjain | I get back the json response all the way till browser | 14:14 |
pkircher | if that works its not the lbl | 14:14 |
ashishjain | only diff b/w the 2 request is the size of the data (probably) | 14:14 |
pkircher | usualy if haproxy delivers the request its not haproxy | 14:14 |
pkircher | could be some MTU issue on the network | 14:15 |
pkircher | but im wild guessing here | 14:15 |
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pkircher | iperf / tcpdump will tell more as larsks sayed earlyer | 14:15 |
ashishjain | pkircher: tried that out too modified dhcp-option-force=26,9000 | 14:16 |
ashishjain | but of no help | 14:16 |
pkircher | using gre or vxlan somewhere ? | 14:16 |
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ashishjain | pkircher: How can I verify whether the settings have taken place | 14:17 |
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ashishjain | gre | 14:17 |
ashishjain | larsks: does this seem like a lbaas issue | 14:18 |
pkircher | using spanning tree or OF 1.3 ? | 14:18 |
pkircher | it does not .. | 14:18 |
pkircher | its a network issue with packet size 99% | 14:18 |
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ashishjain | openflow | 14:19 |
ashishjain | OVS I guess is openflow | 14:19 |
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pkircher | wrong guess | 14:19 |
pkircher | ovs can use both | 14:19 |
pkircher | :) | 14:19 |
ashishjain | :) How do I check spanning tree or openflow | 14:20 |
pkircher | check your tun device how many tunnels you have .. | 14:20 |
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pkircher | ovs operations 101 :) | 14:20 |
pkircher | dump flows on the desired bridge | 14:20 |
pkircher | :) | 14:20 |
ashishjain | hey :) | 14:21 |
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ashishjain | Sorry but I am unaware of so much about neutron | 14:21 |
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pkircher | neutron is just openvswitch after all | 14:21 |
pkircher | so thats the good news .. | 14:21 |
ashishjain | but will give you all the info you asked for :) | 14:21 |
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pkircher | the bad news is .. its a pain to get right | 14:21 |
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pkircher | ifconfig -a | 14:22 |
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ashishjain | mtu is 1500 | 14:22 |
pkircher | and check the tunnel “veth” for mtu | 14:22 |
pkircher | well thats bad | 14:23 |
Sam-I-Am | your first problem is using ifconfig | 14:23 |
Sam-I-Am | you should use 'ip' | 14:23 |
pkircher | ip a wont show the mtu:) | 14:23 |
ashishjain | here is the complete mtu details | 14:24 |
ashishjain | http://paste.openstack.org/show/219905/ | 14:24 |
ashishjain | netstat -i is the command I sued | 14:24 |
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pkircher | 1500 on a tunnel is wrong .. gre needs a few bites .. | 14:24 |
pkircher | :) | 14:25 |
Sam-I-Am | pkircher: oh really? | 14:25 |
Sam-I-Am | my ip command does | 14:25 |
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pkircher | right .. my fault it does .. | 14:25 |
pkircher | etherway .. it does not mather ifconfig a shows the same devices :) | 14:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | to some extent | 14:26 |
Sam-I-Am | also netstat -> ss | 14:26 |
pkircher | well are we gona talk about eggshells .. its mtu for sure .. snice its on 1500 with gre | 14:26 |
pkircher | since* | 14:26 |
ashishjain | okay | 14:27 |
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ashishjain | so do I need to increase this mtu | 14:27 |
ashishjain | I did change it to 9000 | 14:27 |
pkircher | http://baturin.org/tools/encapcalc/ | 14:27 |
pkircher | is it normal gre or with ipsec ? | 14:28 |
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pkircher | you actualy need to make it smaller not bigger :) | 14:28 |
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pkircher | try 1442 :) | 14:29 |
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ashishjain | pkircher: how do I check if it is normal gre or over ipsec | 14:29 |
ashishjain | how do I change this up | 14:30 |
pkircher | 14:30 | |
pkircher | thats basic networking | 14:30 |
pkircher | nothing special here | 14:30 |
ashishjain | :) | 14:30 |
ashishjain | so basically mtu has to be changed for all the interface | 14:31 |
ashishjain | or some specific interface | 14:31 |
pkircher | you dont tunnel everywhere do you ? | 14:31 |
pkircher | so no | 14:31 |
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ashishjain | okay | 14:32 |
ashishjain | so does this mean that only eth2 ( which is being used as an ext-net ) | 14:32 |
ashishjain | needs to be changed | 14:32 |
ashishjain | because that is the one which is being used for lbaas floating ip | 14:32 |
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pkircher | oh boy / | 14:33 |
pkircher | if its a tunnel its on br-tun | 14:33 |
pkircher | and gre is a tunnel | 14:33 |
pkircher | .. | 14:33 |
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ashishjain | pkircher : thanks for this | 14:34 |
ashishjain | pkircher: just trying to use the pdu calculator | 14:35 |
ashishjain | how did you arrive at 1442 | 14:35 |
pkircher | security .. better to have a to low mtu | 14:35 |
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pkircher | instead of undeliverd packages | 14:35 |
pkircher | :) | 14:36 |
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ashishjain | a low mtu means more security ? | 14:36 |
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pkircher | well you know what a mtu is right ? | 14:37 |
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ashishjain | pkircher: maximum transmission unit in bytes | 14:40 |
pkircher | good googleing | 14:40 |
ashishjain | a higher mtu means the packet is on the wire for longer time | 14:40 |
pkircher | now understand it .. | 14:40 |
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pkircher | not just higher mtu means higher packet drops.. special if you try to push more in then you can | 14:41 |
ashishjain | so is that the reason for a higher probability of it getting corrupted | 14:41 |
pkircher | that a dep on the switch ovs does support jumbo frames | 14:41 |
pkircher | but as i sayed .. you should do a networking refresher first | 14:41 |
pkircher | :) | 14:41 |
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ashishjain | pkircher: sure I will | 14:43 |
ashishjain | pkircher: btw I changed the mtu to 1442 | 14:43 |
ashishjain | but still the same issue | 14:43 |
ashishjain | I still see 504 | 14:44 |
ashishjain | gateway time out | 14:44 |
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pkircher | well debug time .. | 14:44 |
pkircher | :) | 14:44 |
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ashishjain | pkircher: Thanks will debug it out | 14:55 |
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NetHawk | Good afternoon everyone! | 15:07 |
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NetHawk | We just started porting our AWS configs to OpenStack (using troposphere to do the translation), and encountered something pecculiar. In the Heat documentation (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/cfn.html) it says that Tags are supported for instances/Subnets/SecurityGroups, but when it openstack parses the JSON file (using the orchestration tab), it spits out an error “ERROR: Unknown Property Tags”. | 15:09 |
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NetHawk | I guess the question I got is: is there a way to use Tags in openstack? | 15:10 |
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annegentle | NetHawk: do you know what underlying version of OpenStack you have? It's possible the docs are updated for Kilo already but your underlying cloud isn't Kilo? | 15:13 |
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NetHawk | Yeah, I’m pretty sure the underlying version is Juno | 15:14 |
NetHawk | forgott to mention that | 15:14 |
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NetHawk | e.g. it is Juno :) | 15:14 |
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NetHawk | Is it possible to get documentation for Juno only? We checked the web-pages, documentations etc. but just couldn’t find docs for Juno only. All links on the webpage seem to link to the current build of documentation (I’m pressuming it’s doxygen generated) | 15:16 |
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clarkb | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/juno/template_guide/cfn.html | 15:17 |
NetHawk | thanks clarkb, much appreciated | 15:18 |
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NetHawk | Do I see this correctly, some thing in Juno support Tags while others don’t? | 15:19 |
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NetHawk | also, Is there any document/changelog or sth. that gives us info about the difference between Juno and Kilo? | 15:19 |
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NetHawk | I am trying to convince the rest of my team to use the latest and greatest (stable) there is (e.g. Kilo currently), but there are concerns about it not being mature yet or sth. | 15:20 |
NetHawk | I know it’s a lot of questions…but google is really no help here (been at it for the past week) | 15:21 |
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RodrigoUSA | hi everyone ;) | 15:22 |
NetHawk | ‘lo RodrigoUSA | 15:22 |
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RodrigoUSA | someone know why windows is so slow as openstack instance ? :/ | 15:23 |
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annegentle | NetHawk: Kilo just came out last thursday | 15:24 |
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RodrigoUSA | I'm using LVM as block storage for nova | 15:24 |
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annegentle | NetHawk: you could read the Release Notes here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#OpenStack_Orchestration_.28Heat.29 | 15:25 |
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NetHawk | thanks annegentle, that should give me some the info needed. | 15:25 |
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annegentle | NetHawk: I hope so, it's so new that even though docs are updated with code, Juno will be "found" more often | 15:26 |
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NetHawk | mhm, makes sense. A week is really a bit too fresh for most production envirenments | 15:27 |
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annegentle | NetHawk: 'zactly :) | 15:27 |
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NetHawk | but since we still have to develop some tools, we might aswell think future proof and make use of what Kilo offers (by the time we are done it should be updated by the cloud provider) | 15:27 |
RodrigoUSA | I got similiar problem as discribed here: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2013/08/12/openstack-unexplained-high-cpu-load-on-compute-nodes/ | 15:28 |
NetHawk | Thank a lot ! | 15:28 |
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annegentle | NetHawk: yeah, good point about the cloud provider | 15:29 |
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junedm | hey guys, I am trying to install kilo on centos7 following this guide http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/, have done keystone and glance part. but apperantly glance is not able to authorize any idea ? | 15:30 |
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junedm | all I am getting is - Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials. | 15:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | junedm: is your admin-openrc.sh file correct and sourced? | 15:32 |
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junedm | yes | 15:33 |
junedm | cross checked that | 15:33 |
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junedm | openstack user list - is working as expected | 15:34 |
junedm | with the same file sourced | 15:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | hmm | 15:36 |
Sam-I-Am | so glance image-list is broken? | 15:36 |
Sam-I-Am | did you configure the glance creds properly? | 15:36 |
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junedm | I guess , followed the stepes cautiosly | 15:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | if the keystone verify steps work, the glance steps should also work | 15:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats the output of glance --debug image-list ? | 15:38 |
junedm | curl -g -i -X GET -H 'User-Agent: python-glanceclient' -H 'Content-Type: application/octet-stream' -H 'Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate' -H 'Accept: */*' -H 'X-Auth-Token: {SHA1}8f0cfe26fb8d674fef8fc0c12ea04987ce1f7576' http://10.143.0.27:9292/v1/images/detail?sort_key=name&sort_dir=asc&limit=20 | 15:39 |
junedm | Request returned failure status 401. | 15:39 |
junedm | Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials. | 15:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'd look through your scrollback to see how the endpoint and service info was added to keystone | 15:40 |
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Sam-I-Am | also curious what's in your admin-openrc file | 15:41 |
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junedm | Sam-I-Am: here is the admin-openrc file - http://pastebin.com/SRC4muDJ | 15:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you configure keystone with apacge? | 15:46 |
Sam-I-Am | apache | 15:46 |
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junedm | nope | 15:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | seems like the yum kilo guide is incomplete | 15:46 |
Sam-I-Am | it should have that step | 15:47 |
Sam-I-Am | its not required though, and i dont think its causing your problem | 15:47 |
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junedm | i see, | 15:49 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'd recheck the credentials you used when running the 'openstack' commands in the glance chapter | 15:51 |
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junedm | ok, will give aa try | 15:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | i havent personally tested the centos steps | 15:53 |
Sam-I-Am | only ubuntu | 15:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | they should be mostly the same | 15:53 |
Sam-I-Am | another option is try to configure nova on the controller and see if it gives you the same error | 15:54 |
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junedm | worth trying | 15:54 |
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junedm | its end of day for me .. will give a try thanks Sam-I-Am | 15:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | sure | 15:58 |
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MikePar | installing Kilo on Ubuntu/Trusty. doing the verify bits for glance, getting errors on the glance image-create | 15:59 |
MikePar | get the 'usage' bits, then: glance: error: unrecognized arguments: --visibility public | 16:00 |
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Sam-I-Am | MikePar: someone broke the install guide | 16:01 |
Sam-I-Am | the patch is getting reverted | 16:01 |
Sam-I-Am | if you're using the v2 API, you use --visibility | 16:01 |
Sam-I-Am | if you're using v1, you use --is-public | 16:01 |
Sam-I-Am | it depends on the environment variable you have for OS_IMAGE_API | 16:02 |
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MikePar | when I put the v2 bits in the environment, I get: glance: error: unrecognized arguments: --name --disk-format qcow2 --container-format bare | 16:03 |
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MikePar | still doc problems? | 16:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | what does glance --help say? | 16:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | does it show things like image-create ? | 16:05 |
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MikePar | yeah, that's in the output | 16:06 |
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MikePar | 181 lines of output, should I put it on paste? or is that sufficient? | 16:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | what command are you using? | 16:06 |
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MikePar | copy & paste from the install docs, adjusting for the path to the downloaded image | 16:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | does glance image-list work? | 16:07 |
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MikePar | {"error": {"message": "The resource could not be found.", "code": 404, "title": "Not Found"}} (HTTP 404) | 16:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats a problem | 16:08 |
Sam-I-Am | it should return a blank list if theres no images | 16:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | does the repo actually have kilo release packages yet? | 16:09 |
MikePar | which logs should I dig through? I don't see anything in the glance* logs | 16:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | what does 'dpkg -l | grep glance' say? | 16:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | iirc, none of the distros have released prod packages yet | 16:09 |
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MikePar | 1:2015.1~rc1-0ubuntu2~cloud0 | 16:10 |
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MikePar | I've added the cloudarchive-kilo repo | 16:12 |
MikePar | deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty-updates/kilo main | 16:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok, the rc1 stuff should work | 16:13 |
MikePar | would I be safer backing out to Juno? | 16:13 |
Sam-I-Am | what's your goal? | 16:13 |
MikePar | functional OS :) | 16:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | well, kilo works. i have several working kilo installs, but i'm seeing people having a lot of problems recently | 16:14 |
Sam-I-Am | which tells me there's something wrong with the packages, or something has changed since we tested them in the install guide. | 16:14 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm planning to test the install guide, but waiting for release packages to drop. | 16:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | no sense in doing it with RC1 packages | 16:15 |
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MikePar | OK, I'll start-over with Juno, work on an upgrade when it goes to release | 16:15 |
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MikePar | thanks | 16:20 |
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larsks | Does anyone here have experience using the unified client with the keystone v3 api? I am trying to figure out how to authenticate as a user not in the default domain. | 17:31 |
larsks | If it helps, I am trying to diagnose some heat-related problems. | 17:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | larsks: like, what env vars to set or something? | 17:33 |
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larsks | Yeah, or what command line parameters to have it authenticate as a user in another domain. | 17:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's OS_PROJECT_DOMAIN_ID and OS_USER_DOMAIN_ID | 17:34 |
larsks | There are a ton of domain related options and I'm not clear what they all do. | 17:34 |
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larsks | So, confusion number 1: Can a user belong to a project in another domain? I did not know that. | 17:35 |
larsks | I thought that domains were entirely separate administrative boundaries. | 17:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think domains let you do things like that | 17:36 |
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larsks | Huh. Well, let me see what I get when I specify both of those along with everything else. | 17:36 |
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: We have discovered post-upgrade issues with Gerrit affecting nova (and potentially other projects). Some changes will not appear and some actions, such as queries, may return an error. We are continuing to investigate. | 17:36 | |
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*** ChanServ changes topic to "We have discovered post-upgrade issues with Gerrit affecting nova (and potentially other projects). Some changes will not appear and some actions, such as queries, may return an error. We are continuing to investigate." | 17:36 | |
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larsks | What I am trying to do is authenticate as the heat_admin user to verify that the password is correct in heat.conf. | 17:38 |
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Sam-I-Am | larsks: sort of out of my wheel house | 17:45 |
Sam-I-Am | <- not a heat guy | 17:45 |
Sam-I-Am | however, i had to figure out v3 auth for the kilo install guide | 17:45 |
larsks | Well, this is more of a keystone question... | 17:45 |
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larsks | I would be happy to find one or two CLI examples of interacting with the v3 api and a domain other than 'default'. | 17:45 |
larsks | Are they in the new install guide? | 17:45 |
Sam-I-Am | heat itself has some 'problems' with the new way to use keystone auth middleware | 17:45 |
Sam-I-Am | they're in the new install guide | 17:46 |
Sam-I-Am | but it uses the default domain | 17:46 |
Sam-I-Am | dont see why it couldnt use other domains | 17:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | the kilo guide uses the unified client and v3 for all keystone stuff | 17:46 |
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RodrigoUSA | some running windows server 2012 as instance?? | 18:04 |
RodrigoUSA | someone* | 18:04 |
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larsks | Sam-I-Am: Any idea why 'openstack role add' doesn't let you use both --project and --domain? | 18:05 |
larsks | RodrigoUSA: I have previously run ws 2012 as an instance, although not recently... | 18:06 |
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larsks | RodrigoUSA: I wrote about my experience here: http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/11/15/creating-a-windows-image-for-openstack/ | 18:06 |
RodrigoUSA | larsks, ok but the problems is windows is running slow as hell too much IO | 18:07 |
RodrigoUSA | poor IO performance I mean | 18:07 |
larsks | RodrigoUSA: Hmm, not going to be able to help you with that one, sorry. | 18:07 |
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RodrigoUSA | larsks, do you use kvm as hypervisor? | 18:08 |
larsks | I do. | 18:08 |
RodrigoUSA | ok | 18:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | larsks: i dont think roles can have a default project? | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont really know | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | dont have a good place to test these things. and time. | 18:09 |
larsks | Yeah. | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | time :/ | 18:09 |
Sam-I-Am | trying to get the summit pres done | 18:09 |
larsks | What are you presenting? | 18:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | how we used collaborative documentation to make neutron suck less | 18:12 |
larsks | Neat. | 18:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | "taming neutron with collaborative documentation" | 18:13 |
Sam-I-Am | a lot of the slides seem to contain "drinking" ... cant figure out why | 18:13 |
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georgem1 | lol | 18:14 |
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muraiki | hi all. if I provide a cloud config via user data, is there a way I can also provide an arbitrary bash script to be run after boot? | 18:52 |
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muraiki | to clarify: I know that I can provide a bash script in user data and have it run, or a cloud config and have it be parsed... but can I combine the two? | 18:52 |
muraiki | I'd like to keep the script in user data vs having to encode it inline and yaml-escape it, or retrieve it via wget, etc. | 18:53 |
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dasp | muraiki: combine the two with MIME: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/format.html#mime-multi-part-archive | 19:04 |
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muraiki | dasp: thank you so much! | 19:06 |
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dasp | muraiki: np | 19:06 |
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muraiki | you just saved me so much pain, heh | 19:07 |
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wasmum | is keystone kilo on a centos distro supposed to have a keystone-paste.ini file? | 20:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | wasmum: its probably in /usr/share or someplace | 20:45 |
Sam-I-Am | wasmum: check the init script, i'm sure it reads it | 20:45 |
Sam-I-Am | redhat does stupid things with config files | 20:46 |
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CrtxReavr | s/with.*// | 20:48 |
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wasmum | Sam-I-Am: 'find / -name .ini' returns nothing | 20:51 |
wasmum | thinking something may be a miss with the rdo repo's for kilo? | 20:51 |
Sam-I-Am | wasmum: i mean, check the systemd init script | 20:52 |
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wasmum | did, /usr/bin/keystone-all, only ref to a file | 20:52 |
Sam-I-Am | keystone wont work without that file | 20:52 |
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wasmum | well thats what I was thinking | 20:53 |
CrtxReavr | Um | 20:53 |
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wasmum | damn machine chewed it up | 20:53 |
CrtxReavr | Try find / -name '*.ini' | 20:53 |
Sam-I-Am | wasmum: check /usr/share/keystone | 20:53 |
Sam-I-Am | i bet theres a keystone-dist-paste.ini | 20:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | and something is calling that | 20:53 |
wasmum | srsly, what a damn crappy monday, found '/usr/share/keystone/keystone-dist-paste.ini" | 20:53 |
wasmum | fudge o matic | 20:54 |
wasmum | thanks guys | 20:54 |
Sam-I-Am | <3 packages | 20:54 |
Sam-I-Am | glad no production installs actually use them :) | 20:54 |
wasmum | poop | 20:55 |
wasmum | i know | 20:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | good for learning though | 20:55 |
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wasmum | so following the install guide, I can source my env and then get a token, but using the openstack cli the 'token issue' gets a 500 | 20:59 |
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wasmum | anyone got time to look at a pastebin? | 20:59 |
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wasmum | if anyone can help, here is a pastebin using the openstack cli to do a 'token issue' in kilo - http://pastebin.com/j75geUss | 21:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | looks like a keystone config problem? | 21:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | wasmum: works for me on ubuntu | 21:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | wasmum: and on my source install | 21:07 |
Sam-I-Am | wasmum: curious whats in the dist paste file | 21:07 |
Sam-I-Am | rh is known to never update those, so things change in a service, and it barfs all over | 21:08 |
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rlrevell | wouldn't /var/log/keystone/keystone.log tell what the 500 error was? | 21:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | not necessarily | 21:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | although technically kilo should be using apache in front of keystone, but i dont think that patch made it to the install guide for rhel yet | 21:08 |
wasmum | i wish I could use ubuntu some times | 21:08 |
Sam-I-Am | its there for ubuntu | 21:08 |
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wasmum | here is the paste.ini http://pastebin.com/XFBxwHzg | 21:09 |
Sam-I-Am | i'd just not use packages on anything :) | 21:09 |
Sam-I-Am | looks like they got rid of the xml stuff, so thats good | 21:09 |
Sam-I-Am | v3 seems enabled too | 21:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | does v2 auth work? | 21:10 |
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ajutras | Does anyone know if Congress have their own channel? | 21:10 |
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* echirivella Hi, everyone | 21:19 | |
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wasmum | Sam-I-Am:, yes | 21:36 |
wasmum | i am going backto Juno till the rdo repo's are sorted out | 21:36 |
Sam-I-Am | heh | 21:36 |
Sam-I-Am | there's that idea... | 21:36 |
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wasmum | drop the db, rm -Rf /etc/keystone, remove the kilo rpm changed the repos and redid it using juno | 21:42 |
wasmum | done in 15 min | 21:42 |
wasmum | now I can move forward again | 21:42 |
Sam-I-Am | yay | 21:42 |
wasmum | poop, rdo | 21:42 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: hello. | 23:00 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: something i've always wondered, maybe you know. The name of the default 'region' is sometimes "regionOne" and sometimes "RegionOne". And it seems that case is actually important so that i've had quite some errors because of those inconsistencies | 23:00 |
orzel | Is there a consensus about which one should be used ? | 23:00 |
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laney_ | haha i noticed that too | 23:01 |
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goldwariorr | hi | 23:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | orzel: the clients default to regionOne, but the services like RegionOne | 23:24 |
Sam-I-Am | just make it consistent and you'll be fine | 23:24 |
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orzel | Sam-I-Am: sure, i did that | 23:26 |
orzel | but it's kinda confusing. There's a reason that it stays this way ? (some use case i'm missing?) or is it just too complicated to make the doc consistent ??? | 23:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | who knows | 23:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | it just needs to be the same for the same reason | 23:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | region | 23:27 |
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