Tuesday, 2015-05-12

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infotekwhat are the more respected openstack certifications?01:02
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eroppleHi - can anyone point me towards how to run update my devstack local.conf without losing local state? (I just went and enabled Swift, and it blew away my uploaded images. Whoops!)01:46
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infoteki would like to jump heqad first into openstack but am confused by the myriad of options.02:51
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infotekis this the right place for some general feedback on real world experiences of centos versus ubuntu prepackaged deployments versus direct from openstack deployments?02:55
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Sam-I-Aminfotek: pretty much03:21
infotekSam-I-Am: do you have experience in these two deployments?  packaged deployments in centos and ubuntu and/or direct from openstack deplyments?03:24
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Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean 'direct from openstack' ?03:25
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infotekSam-I-Am: i assume that the releases from openstack are less distro centric and more up to date than say the epel repositories for centos03:29
Sam-I-Amwell, openstack just releases source03:29
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Sam-I-Amthe distros are generally pretty up to date with releases, but you wont often find packages for the head of master in the repo03:30
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Sam-I-Amyou wont find too many people using distro packages in production because they're not very flexible and it often takes a while to get bugs fixed, if at all.03:31
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infotekSam-I-Am: So most production are roll your own from source?03:32
Sam-I-Amrather than reinventing the wheel and building from source yourself, you could use something like https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment03:32
Sam-I-Amwhich uses source, but also manages and automates the deployment03:32
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infotekSam-I-Am: interesting.  reading now.03:33
Sam-I-Ami'm a developer for it03:34
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Kupo24zSam-I-Am: you around03:34
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Sam-I-AmKupo24z: partly03:34
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Kupo24zPlaying around with lxc containers on cent7, with the openstack-ansible project where can i find which containers are created for each role?03:35
Kupo24zI see inventory_hostname that it?03:35
SamYapleKupo24z: os-ansible-deployment or openstack-ansible?03:35
SamYapletwo different projects03:36
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SamYapleonly os-ansible-deployment is in stackforge03:36
Kupo24zerm, whats the difference?03:36
Kupo24zsorry03:36
Kupo24zim viewing this https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment03:36
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SamYaplehttps://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment03:36
SamYaplehttps://github.com/openstack-ansible/openstack-ansible03:36
SamYapleyea03:36
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SamYaplei do not believe centos support has been added03:36
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SamYaplei havent looked at master recently though03:37
Kupo24zI know, I was just looking for what it creates when it runs currently in ubuntu, how many containers and what they run etc03:37
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Sam-I-Amit creates an inventory file with the container names03:38
SamYapleKupo24z: ~20 contaienrs on the "infra" nodes. running a full OS worth of process (full init)03:38
SamYaplethe compute nodes don't have containers due to a bug with iscsi in network namespaces03:38
Kupo24zSamYaple: is there a list somewhere with the containers it creates?03:39
SamYaplenot a true list, maybe some examples in the docs?03:40
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Sam-I-Amits dynamic depending on how you config it03:40
SamYapleits also dependant on what you configure to install03:40
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Sam-I-Amthere is no set number03:40
Kupo24zYeah Id like to get a list of what is avalible to install03:40
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SamYapleas in what projects?03:41
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Kupo24zah found https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/bfd033defe7938be84909a1a2fb2d10c466a9fe1/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_environment.yml03:42
Kupo24zthink thats what im looking for03:42
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: what are the permissions on /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/28a09af858a8_subnetpool_quotas.py03:43
Kupo24zWhat would be the point in containerizing the compute node?03:43
prometheanfiremight be dist-packages not site-packages03:43
prometheanfireor others if you have a kilo install to check03:43
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SamYapleprometheanfire: its installed from source03:45
SamYapleprometheanfire: disregard. i thought you were someone else!03:45
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: not near an install right now03:45
SamYapleKupo24z: what would be the point in containerizing anything :)03:46
prometheanfirethe official upgrade docs state to run 'su -s /bin/sh -c "neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade head" neutron03:46
prometheanfirebut the file is root:root 644 here03:46
prometheanfirebut the file is root:root 640 here03:46
prometheanfireso it can't be run by neutron03:46
SamYaplewhen done right, it allows for consistency across multiple deploys (containers act as a type of "binary") reduces bugs and allows for cleaner management03:47
SamYapleremoval is as simple as deleting a container03:47
prometheanfirewas wondering if the docs are wrong or if other's package install with the same perms03:47
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: i've used that command before without any problems03:47
Kupo24zI guess, i just always deploy compute nodes directly on the OS, as few layers to the VM's OS is better03:47
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: what install/system?03:47
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: I assume you had :P03:48
prometheanfirethat's why I asked the perms03:48
Sam-I-Amfedora and ubuntu, probably sles at some point03:48
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: via packages?03:48
Sam-I-Ambut i dont have a box in front of me to check03:48
Sam-I-Amyes03:48
prometheanfireok, can manually check that I think03:48
SamYapleKupo24z: I disagree with that statement. running the qemu process in a container has no measurable impact on performance03:49
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SamYapleits not like its a vm, its just a different namespace03:49
prometheanfireinstalling from source (off stable/kilo) doesn't specify a user or anythin03:49
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Kupo24zSamYaple: I guess i cant speak from experiance since i just run kickstart scripts that install nova compute etc, if it has no affect vs on the bare OS i guess i can see some benefits03:51
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: sudo add-apt-repository cloud-archive:kilo03:53
prometheanfirethat one?03:53
SamYapleprometheanfire: that works, just make sure you have add-apt-repository up to date03:53
prometheanfireI need to know what the doc man says though :P03:54
prometheanfiresince that's 'official'03:54
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SamYapleprometheanfire: considering i fixed that bug last release, i think you can trust me03:54
Sam-I-Amhaha03:54
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prometheanfireif you say so03:54
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Sam-I-Amthe cloud-archive repo is where the packages are03:54
Sam-I-Amas long as its added to your repo list03:54
prometheanfireit is, installing neutron-server now so I can check that file03:55
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prometheanfireit'd be annoying to have to chown it03:55
prometheanfire-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1116 Apr  9 18:53 /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/28a09af858a8_subnetpool_quotas.py03:56
prometheanfirewell, guess it's just 64403:56
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Kupo24zWhat kind of overhead is needed to run the system services 20x times for all the different services for infra nodes?03:58
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Sam-I-Amless than you think03:59
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Sam-I-Amplus its not all the services03:59
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Sam-I-Amaight, sleep time04:04
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prometheanfirenn04:05
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prometheanfireso, the pbr breakage in stable/kilo is fixed it looks like?05:34
prometheanfireneato :D05:34
prometheanfirewas holding off packaging it05:34
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wyaeldHi there.  Can anyone help me with a networking problem.  I have several servers running on an Openstack, and I'm trying to configure it so that access to the interest goes through a particular node, rather than them all routing directly out06:02
wyaeldWe have 3rd parties who need to whitelist the traffic from a single source06:02
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SamYaplewyaeld: basically like a firewall vm?06:15
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skoudeneed to create a good backup and restore plan for openstack instances. I'm currently running IceHouse, so any advice how to do this?06:52
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skoudeI was planing that I take a snapshot of the volume, then create an image of it and back it up on extrernal location. But Is there an easy way to backup the instance metadata and restore it (instance name, ip, floating ip etc..)?06:54
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skoudeAnd it seems that there is really no good docs or blogs available on internet how to do this sufficiently.06:55
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SamYapleskoude: no. there is no assurance that you can even get the same ip or floating ip back06:56
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skoudeSamYaple: yeah, that is the problem, I would need at least preserve the same floating ip if I would need to restore06:56
SamYaplei would suggest an instance level backup since that is the only "openstack" way you can do it, but trying to recreate the instance exactly is counter to openstack06:56
SamYaplefloating ip should be easier to do since you allocate that down06:57
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SamYaplebut if there is a request for that ip you cant prevent a different instance from getting it06:57
SamYapleyou can request it specifically though06:57
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skoudeSamYaple: yeah, I will need to specify that floating ip when creating the instance. I was thinking that maybe I should switch using council as dns services and just use the names (and not ip's) for servers to communicate with each others.. That way it would be easier to create the instances in case of failures.. Still I need to run all the windows instances on persistent storage, because the creation of windows servers are pain in the ass.07:01
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SamYapledns is always a good idea07:02
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Kupo24z1skoude: you can specify a fixed ip when creating an instance or a port07:20
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SamYapleyou can, but you can't guarantee it07:39
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robert100is there somebody there?07:39
IcePicnopes07:40
IcePica few are here, but noone is there.07:40
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robert100clear07:40
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ws2k3Hello, devstack is not for production rights? its purpshase is for development right? or is that safe to use for production07:42
nihiliferit's only for development07:43
ws2k3i would like to deploy openstack but i'm pretty new to it, i tryed out devstack on xen and that worked fine07:43
ws2k3but what is the recommanded way to go should i just make a ubuntu vm where i have nova running?07:44
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skoudeHow is openstack deciding what instance runs on which node?  For example if I deploy galera cluster and they are booted from ephemeral storage. Data is located in block storage, do I need manually make shure that these instances run on a differenct cloud nodes?08:56
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v92skoude: scheduling is done by nova-scheduler on the controller (AFAIK)08:58
v92check the scheduler_default_filters option in nova.conf08:59
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skoudev92: thanks. I will check that. I'm king of new to openstack, so need to ask some noob questions. I think I will do some changes to my ansible playbook so that it will check that they will not be running on same nodes on install time. Also I think I need to figure some monitoring stuff that instances starting with same name and in same tenant won't be running on same nodes.09:01
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v92skoude: do you have multiple instances with same name ? i dont think it is good idea :)09:03
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skoudev92: I meaan that they start with the same name, for example galera_1 galera_2 etx..09:06
v92ah ok :)09:06
v92skoude: you may also place VM to different host with nova boot ... --availability-zone nova:<host>09:08
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ZeeAnyone there?11:04
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svgI'm having 10k messages on the neutron -> info.notifications queue. Not sure if that is to be expected, or some consumer crashed?11:05
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svgZee: no need to DM me, just ask your question, and hope someone can answer it11:24
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skoudev92: that's true, maybe I could use those availability zones also :)11:27
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skoudehmm.. opinnion, should I or should I not to use availability zones when I have 5 node cluster?11:58
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SamYapleskoude: depends on what you are trying to accomplish12:04
dudyyou might want to peer at the arch-design site ... has a lot of good things to consider:12:06
dudyhttp://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/content/multi_site.html12:06
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skoudethanks, I will chesk that arch-design document..12:13
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skoudewhat I was trying to achieve with these availability zones would be that if I deploy for example galera cluster, the galera instances  would be in different zones. This way the instances would newer be on a same cloud node. But this could also be achieved with monitoring and scripting.12:17
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RobertZhanghello12:20
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ashishjainhello need some help on one of the possible mtu issue12:49
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ashishjainlarsks: Have you tried a request from your test http server which has a payload of 1178 or more12:50
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ashishjainI recreated this issue today with apache http server packaged in a container running on openstack12:50
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ashishjainI am unable to serve response for any html file whose size is more than 1178 bytes12:51
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larsksashishjain: are you using vxlan or gre tenant networks?12:55
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ashishjainlarsks: gre12:56
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larsksOkay.  Are you aware that with either gre or vxlan, you need to ensure that the MTU inside your instances is *smaller* than the MTU of your physical NICs?12:57
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larsksThe tunnelling protocol adds bytes to outgoing packets, which means an MTU-sized packet coming from the instance will get fragmented when it hits the tunnel, which can cause a variety of performance issues and other problems.12:58
ashishjainfor instances to take mtu I think we need to add a file dhcp-option-force=26,130012:58
larsksYour docker containers are probably not using dhcp to acquire addresses.12:58
larsksSo setting dhcp options will have no effect.12:58
ashishjaincan we go other way round12:59
larsksYou mean, can you raise the MTU on the host?  Should work, yes.12:59
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ashishjainyeah12:59
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ashishjainnetwork node, compute node, controller node ( guest VM) and than also host node13:00
ashishjainI see a standard size of 1500 MTU across all the interfaces13:00
larsksJust the GRE tunnel endpoints.  The controller node doesn't particpate in the tenant networks.13:00
larsksAnd yes, the standard mtu is 1500 bytes.13:00
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ashishjainregarding the IP address of docker containers that is still provided by neutron13:01
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ashishjainso doesn't that mean it should also use dnsmasq13:02
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larsksYour containers are not running a dhcp client.13:02
ashishjainokay13:02
larsksThe ip address is set directly by the nova-docker driver when setting up the container networking.13:02
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larskshttps://github.com/stackforge/nova-docker/blob/master/novadocker/virt/docker/vifs.py#L42113:02
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ashishjainthanks for pointing this out13:03
ashishjainwhat is the MTU size shall I try on the gre tunnle end points13:03
ashishjainany number you have in mind13:03
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ashishjainand do I need to restart anything after changin mtu13:03
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larsksIt looks like this document has some thoughts about MTU sizes and tunneling protocols: http://keepingitclassless.net/2014/03/mtu-considerations-vxlan/13:04
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larsksAssuming that GRE has similar packets sizes, setting an MTU of, say, 2000 bytes would be more than adequate.13:05
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larsksIn theory something as small as 1580 would also work.13:05
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ashishjainthanks larsks i will try this out13:06
ashishjainlet you know if this helps13:06
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vm0002_hi there , I know that there is documentation for upgradation of openstack grizzly -> havana -> icehouse -> juno , but I want to know about juno -> kilo upgradation documentation. thanks in advance13:12
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SamYaplevm0002_: that is in the works, i dont think there is anything official on it yet13:13
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: might know13:13
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ppintochef openstack13:27
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arykleinis it necessary to use swap in instance servers? cause most of the I saw they don't use a disk for swap13:42
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leggsyhi everyone.  Anyone have experience with Juno and OpenDaylight?  Basically my vxlan tunnels are not being created…14:26
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shaggycatHi all! I get a problem: nova image-list works, and print list of images, glance image-create works, and can upload images, nova boot works, and can be boot instance with image (we can see id by nova image-list), but glance image-list return emty output. Also, horizon can't run instance, becouse don't see uploaded images14:32
shaggycatno interesting information in logs14:33
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shaggycatHow i can fix this problem?14:33
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shaggycatit is a glance-api.conf and glance-registry:   http://pastebin.com/m9BWLUag http://pastebin.com/VzSc9AEk14:43
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rlrevellshaggycat: what about glance image-list --all-tenants14:48
shaggycatrlrevell, it worls14:48
shaggycatworks14:49
shaggycatbut why i don't see this images in horizon?14:49
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shaggycatrlrevell,  http://pastebin.com/XBnar9CE14:49
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shaggycat| is_public        | False                                ?14:51
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shaggycathttp://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/content/glanceclient_commands.html14:54
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shaggycatin manual: glance image-update14:54
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shaggycatand here is key14:55
shaggycat--is-public {True,False}14:55
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shaggycatbug cli client returns:14:55
shaggycatglance image-update --name e4fd4588-a262-4099-8bcf-ead9eddf8445 --is_public True14:55
shaggycatglance: error: unrecognized arguments: --is_public14:55
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IcePicunderscore versus minus14:56
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IcePic--is_public  <- not same as --is-public14:56
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shaggycatOh14:57
shaggycatBut I got an error:14:57
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shaggycathttp://pastebin.com/uzgEVgF914:58
shaggycat40314:58
shaggycatalso I got this error,14:58
shaggycatIf i try to upload image with key to make image public14:58
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rlrevellshaggycat: as admin?14:59
shaggycatrlrevell, yes14:59
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shaggycatkeystone and else works with this env vars15:00
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rlrevellshaggycat: weird i've actually never tried to change image properties i just delete and recreate15:00
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shaggycatrlrevell, but also I can't upload image with --is-public flag15:00
shaggycatit is also 403 error15:00
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shaggycatand no information in logs15:01
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IcePicdid that storage ever work?15:01
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shaggycatIcePic, nova boot command works15:01
shaggycatAnd can create instances15:02
IcePicjust checking15:02
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shaggycatIcePic, now? OK, I will try again15:02
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shaggycathttp://pastebin.com/LT1vkFLV15:04
shaggycatyes. it is works15:04
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shaggycatAnd now it is in active state15:04
ashishjainlarsks: thanks a lot15:04
ashishjainlarsks: that helped and the issue is resolved15:04
larsksAwesome.15:05
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ashishjainlarsks: Awesome help from you .... otherwise was not possible to resolve this up15:05
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ashishjainlarsks: Moving on to next steps now :)15:06
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ashishjainlarsks: Have you ever deployed a cluster say mongodb or solr on openstack using docker15:06
larsksNope.15:07
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ashishjainlarsks: that is what I am gonna try now15:07
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georgem1shaggycat: check the keystone endpoints15:07
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ashishjainI think heat does not provide anything out of the box for this15:07
ashishjainmay have to again user probably meta-data to populate this up15:08
ashishjainpopulate Ip's up15:08
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cyriuz__Hi, I'm trying to communicate with the glance module via the REST API but for some reason it does not seem possible to get the responses in XML? Ive tried the same requests that I send to the neutron module, which gives me xml back, but it still returns json. Am I missing something?15:13
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shaggycatgeorgem1, http://pastebin.com/vz4c3RpS here is15:13
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shaggycatNo information in keystone logs. May be i need to switch on debug?15:14
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georgem1shaggycat:no, Dshboard usually connects to the API using the public endpoint, and if the server where dashboard is running cannot reach the 192.168.16.60:9292 then it would be able to display the images15:19
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shaggycatgeorgem1, thank you for answer15:20
shaggycatand all thanks for answer15:20
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shaggycatbut how i can fix my 403 error?15:21
shaggycatI can't upload public image :(15:21
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georgem1shaggycat:you cannot upload or you cannot update?15:22
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shaggycatgeorgem1, I can not upload public image, but can upload not public. Also I can not update not public image to public: same 403 error15:23
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georgem1shaggycat: enable debug and verbose in the glance config files and restart the services; try the upload public again and you should see the cause of the error15:24
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shaggycatgeorgem1, thank you,15:36
shaggycatI enabled debug15:36
shaggycatand I got erros:15:36
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shaggycat http://pastebin.com/2NRH3Fin i try manually: http://pastebin.com/89gNPQMm and update password of user glance, but it is not help15:38
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shaggycatAlso i try use user nova15:45
shaggycatin glance15:45
shaggycatnova/nova15:45
shaggycatIt also can't help15:45
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baker@shaggycat I think only admin can upload public images?15:53
shaggycatbaker, but I use admin account...15:53
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bakerah - I see now you are having communication issues from glance to keystone15:55
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bakerdo you get that when you try to do it from the CLI also?15:55
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shaggycatbaker, nova image-list works15:57
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georgem1shaggycat: what version of openstack did you install?15:57
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shaggycatgeorgem1, juno16:00
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baker@shaggycat - I'm confused - are you using the glance admin u/p?16:00
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shaggycatbaker, in cli?16:00
shaggycatno, it is service login16:00
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shaggycatand it can't works no in HTTP16:00
shaggycatI use normal admin cli account16:00
bakerok - that makes sense16:01
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bakersorry - came in late16:01
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georgem1shaggycat: your config file that you pasted an hour ago (http://pastebin.com/VzSc9AEk) looks different than my Juno config, this is your cleaned up version: http://pastebin.com/1A7Pjm9916:03
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shaggycatgeorgem1, thank you, I will try it16:03
georgem1shaggycat:you have authentication set in two sections of the config16:03
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georgem1shaggycat:both pastebins are yours, don't try it but see what's wrong and clean it up; are you running Juno?16:04
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shaggycatgeorgem1, yes, I'm running juno16:10
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shaggycatgeorgem1, with one section (second) don't work16:14
shaggycatgeorgem1, i try to use only first16:15
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shaggycatgeorgem1, could you please paste your working config?16:17
georgem1shaggycat: this is what you should have: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/glance-install.html16:17
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p4tuxhello,16:42
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p4tuxquick question, how many of you use host-passthrough in nova.conf16:43
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p4tuxupsides, downsides (besides migration)16:43
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p4tuxwhich is probaby a big deal16:44
p4tuxand recomendations16:44
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arykleinis it necessary to use swap in instance servers? cause most of the instance I saw they don't use a disk for swap17:33
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arykleinI've asked before but I don't know if someone answer this question17:35
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kyle__Any rally users who could answer a q?  Does it wait for the network to come all the way up and cloud-init to finish, or does it just verify the VM is up, then call it good?17:47
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gfreemanhi guys!  i had a previously working devstack installation (setup by another person, rlucio) which is now failing.  is this the right channel to ask for devstack assistance on?17:55
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rlrevellaryklein: i would think the rules wrt swap would be the same as with any server. if one gets too slow then whatever load balancing mechanism you use should shift traffic away from it17:56
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diogogmtanybody running openstack as a service on the cloud?18:46
diogogmtany recomendations on openstack service providers?18:46
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neocoxhi, where I can find an upgrade process overview from juno to kilo without service disruption?18:54
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neocoxnone can provide me a basic upgrade overview?19:01
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skayhi, I'm having trouble running the nova cli suddently. I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/11100887/19:46
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skayrepasted to the openstack paste, http://paste.openstack.org/show/221110/19:47
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knighthawkUpgrade your version of novaclient skay19:50
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knighthawkapt-get install python-novaclient or pip install python-novaclient19:50
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skayknighthawk: I've tried that, and have tried uninstalling and reinstalling19:50
knighthawkIt looks like you're running v119:51
knighthawkpip version shows "LATEST:    2.25.0"19:51
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skayI'll try uninstalling again and reinstaling just to be certain19:52
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skayknighthawk: I went ahead and created a virtualenv to pip install python-novaclient and that failed with the same error20:04
skayknighthawk: I'm on ubuntu, vivid20:05
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