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| MrHeavy | I'm having a weird problem with Cinder I was hoping someone might be able to help with | 01:52 |
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| MrHeavy | If I submit volume creation requests, they fail because the scheduler can't find any hosts to create the volume, usual thing | 01:53 |
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| MrHeavy | But I turned on debug logging in cinder-scheduler and I have something funny in my logs | 01:53 |
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| MrHeavy | When I get the "received volume service update from _____" messages, they tell me the free_capacity_gb of my Ceph store is 0, which I know is completely false | 01:54 |
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| MrHeavy | Just as a test, I deleted a vol, watched an extra 5 GB show up in ceph status, and it still says 0 in Cinder | 01:56 |
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| MrHeavy | cinder user has correct permissions (verified through rbd command), keyring readable by cinder user, correct user/pool specified in cinder.conf | 01:59 |
| MrHeavy | I cannot for the life of me figure out why this isn't working | 01:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i havent used cinder and ceph | 02:03 |
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| SamYaple | cinder and ceph is great! | 03:33 |
| SamYaple | MrHeavy: as the cinder user, can you query ceph with the cpeh cli using the correct user key and pool? | 03:34 |
| SamYaple | `rbd -p volumes -u cinder ls` or something like that? | 03:34 |
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| MrHeavy | SamYaple: Sure can | 04:22 |
| MrHeavy | Also verified the Cinder services have access to ceph.conf and the keyring | 04:22 |
| SamYaple | what version of openstack? | 04:22 |
| MrHeavy | Kilo | 04:22 |
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| SamYaple | is this is a new install or upgrade? | 04:23 |
| MrHeavy | Was running RC1 but upgraded to RTM today | 04:23 |
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| SamYaple | MrHeavy: i suspect that your DB has bad values | 04:23 |
| SamYaple | do you have any cinver volumes currently? | 04:23 |
| MrHeavy | A whole pile | 04:23 |
| SamYaple | cinder* | 04:23 |
| MrHeavy | I can delete them fine also | 04:24 |
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| SamYaple | yea but the free space stuff in the database can get out of sync with reality | 04:24 |
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| MrHeavy | I didn't see anything in the Cinder DB dealing with free space on a backend | 04:25 |
| SamYaple | yea i cant remember if it is tracked or polled each time, im digging through the cinder code | 04:26 |
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| MrHeavy | Logs suggest it's polled from the volume daemon | 04:26 |
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| MrHeavy | I get debug messages when it updates | 04:26 |
| MrHeavy | They tell me 'free_capacity_gb': 0 for some reason I can't pinpoint | 04:27 |
| MrHeavy | I know 0 is also the default value for that attribute in the code so who knows what that even means | 04:27 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/stable/kilo/cinder/volume/drivers/rbd.py#L360 | 04:27 |
| SamYaple | thats teh function im reading right now, feel free to join | 04:27 |
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| MrHeavy | The other interesting thing is that the total_capacity_gb reported is the total of all volumes, not the size of the pool | 04:28 |
| MrHeavy | And if I delete a volume, I see total_capacity_gb drop on the next update | 04:28 |
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| SamYaple | that makes sense | 04:28 |
| SamYaple | otherwise cinder wouldnt be able to control overallocation and things | 04:29 |
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| MrHeavy | Oh, I see right in the code there where it calculates total = free + used | 04:29 |
| MrHeavy | So if it thinks 0 free, yeah, that'll happen | 04:29 |
| MrHeavy | I assumed that was coming right from the pool | 04:29 |
| SamYaple | no that isnt a ceph message | 04:30 |
| SamYaple | im trying to see if you can have disk_overcommit with ceph | 04:30 |
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| SamYaple | you didnt used to be able too | 04:30 |
| MrHeavy | I have 3 TB free in this pool | 04:30 |
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| SamYaple | how much if you expand the size of all the volumes? (total_capacity_gb) | 04:30 |
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| MrHeavy | Sorry, I'm not following the question | 04:31 |
| SamYaple | if you have a 10TB cluster, you can have 100 1TB images, if they are thinly allocated and CoW | 04:32 |
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| MrHeavy | Not sure, but deleting a volume and creating an identically-sized volume didn't work | 04:33 |
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| SamYaple | if cinder is configured to not over allocate the dist (in the above scenario you could only have 10 1TB images) then that would make sense | 04:34 |
| MrHeavy | Volume isn't full, I can create new ones through the rbd CLI just fine | 04:34 |
| SamYaple | see above | 04:34 |
| SamYaple | s/dist/disk/ | 04:34 |
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| MrHeavy | Whatever it is, it's way beyond the total capacity of the pool | 04:34 |
| MrHeavy | err | 04:34 |
| MrHeavy | way below | 04:34 |
| SamYaple | whats the total usable pool capacity? whats the current usage? how manay images? | 04:35 |
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| MrHeavy | 2984 GB in pool w/ 3 copies, 442 GB used, 2541 GB free, 43 images | 04:36 |
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| MrHeavy | avg. image size 10-20 GB | 04:37 |
| MrHeavy | (provisioned) | 04:37 |
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| MrHeavy | Do you know how to send a raw mon command to Ceph so I can see exactly what it's getting back re: free space? | 04:41 |
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| MrHeavy | Okay, just gonna start monkeypatching the crap out of the logs on one host | 04:46 |
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| MrHeavy | Confirmed max_avail is coming back as 0 from RADOSClient directly for each pool | 04:49 |
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| SamYaple | that is not cool | 04:49 |
| SamYaple | what version of ceph? | 04:49 |
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| MrHeavy | Firefly, 0.80.9 | 04:56 |
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| SamYaple | MrHeavy: maybe, but my on cluster ceph experince is rusty | 05:01 |
| SamYaple | you shoud check out #ceph | 05:01 |
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| SamYaple | it sounds like youve got this narrowed down to a "not openstack" issue and i dont think well be much help in this channel | 05:01 |
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| prabh | hello | 05:33 |
| prabh | any staff member is here ? | 05:33 |
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| SamYaple | prabh: define staff memeber? | 05:34 |
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| prabh | i need help related to trystack | 05:37 |
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| prabh | see what happens http://i.imgur.com/VYVp4tn.png?1 | 05:40 |
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| prabh | my one of instance strucks at deletion process from two dats | 05:40 |
| prabh | *days | 05:40 |
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| SamYaple | pradh if it has been stuck for two days, that instruction is long gone | 07:31 |
| SamYaple | you can reset the state and try deleting it again | 07:31 |
| SamYaple | if that fails well need log outputs to continue | 07:31 |
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| pburrows | any rackspace sysadmins in here? | 08:17 |
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| SamYaple | in an official capacity, no | 08:32 |
| SamYaple | but perhaps I can help pburrows? | 08:32 |
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| junedm | has any one tried kilo on centos , I am getting issues in getting glance authenticating , always give me "Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials", using http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_preface.html , this as my reference guide | 09:07 |
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| peem | Hi, Can you point me towards some info on best practises in terms of hardware choice for an openstack deployment ? I'm looking to be more informed and knowledgible to answer questions like "why this servers/nas devices/switchesare used " both in terms of technical advantage/disadvantage and in terrms of costs. | 10:45 |
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| ayoung | jbryce, You need to get a decent picture up on http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/ | 12:56 |
| ayoung | http://static.sched.org/a2/230511/avatar.jpg.320x320px.jpg?3a3 does not scale properly | 12:57 |
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| kodiakfff | Hey folks - Ceph newbie here. I've currently got an Icehosue deployment using a single (SPOF) NFS server as the mount for /var/lib/nova/instances to provide space for instances to live on tiny blades. We're working on deploying a Juno cluster w/ Ceph for storage. I understand I can use Ceph for the storage of running instances - can someone please confirm that if we do that, that the space allotted to /var/lib/nova/instances is no longer a concern? | 13:41 |
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| rlrevell | kodiakfff: it still puts lock files, console.log and libvirt.xml there but that's it | 13:47 |
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| kbringard | I think you can change that directory too, right? in the nova.conf? | 13:47 |
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| rlrevell | think so but never tried it. state_path=/var/lib/nova i guess | 13:48 |
| kodiakfff | rlrevell - those lock files aren't all that large right? | 13:48 |
| rlrevell | kodiakfff: they're empty | 13:48 |
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| kodiakfff | The issue is these darn blades are teeny tiny - they are old ESX blades and I guess the way that worked (am not vmware guy), they needed practically nothing. So I'm sitting on beacoup CPU and RAM but each blade has like 60GB | 13:49 |
| rlrevell | should work great | 13:49 |
| kodiakfff | thanks folks for confirming - glad I can now use these tiny blades w/o my crufty NFS mount | 13:50 |
| kodiakfff | was going to be funny to worry about disk space with a 200TB ceph cluster | 13:50 |
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| rlrevell | kodiakfff: it might still do something there for live migration, i haven't tested that yet | 13:51 |
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| kodiakfff | rlrevell - Hrm that'll be interesting. I was reading about it last night and it looks like (hopefully) the migration all happens within the 'vms' Ceph pool (as-configured) - I sure hope so because there are stupid Windows VMs that have an instance hit on /var/lib/nova/instances of upwards 100GB right now on my NFS based Icehouse cluster (sigh) | 13:52 |
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| peem | Hi, Can you point me towards some info on best practises in terms of hardware choice for an openstack deployment ? I'm looking to be more informed and knowledgible to answer questions like "why this servers/nas devices/switchesare used " both in terms of technical advantage/disadvantage and in terrms of costs. | 14:30 |
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| kodiakfff | peem: I think the openstack foundation tries to stay neutral about hardware choices but at least in the ops guide I read for icehouse the reference cluster was all Dell poweredge gear, and us being a dell shop as well that's what we used. | 14:44 |
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| kodiakfff | You may just want to check out the blogosphere and see what people are using, if you are looking for real world examples that go beyond posted hardware capability requirements | 14:45 |
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| nagyz | peem, lots of memory, lots of cpu, lots of network bandwidth, and lots of io. | 14:48 |
| nagyz | hope that helps :D | 14:48 |
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| jmlowe1 | I'm having trouble starting nova-scheduler in a new install, it just spins giving "SQL connection failed. " errors in the logs, nova-api seems happy | 14:53 |
| jmlowe1 | any hints? | 14:53 |
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| rlrevell | jmlowe1: can you pastebin nova.conf and the log message? | 14:54 |
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| jmlowe1 | http://pastebin.com/kTgu7Aw1 errors | 14:55 |
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| jmlowe1 | sanitized conf http://pastebin.com/1sPfKJUv | 14:57 |
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| peem | kodiakfff: thanks. will look at that as we using a lot of Dell too. | 14:59 |
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| peem | nagyz: not really, but thanks for an efford. | 14:59 |
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| rlrevell | jmlowe1: sure mysql is running? in ubuntu 15.04 there's a bug where it doesn't start on boot anymore | 15:00 |
| rlrevell | that one got me when i upgraded | 15:00 |
| jmlowe1 | mariadb is running, other services are ok | 15:00 |
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| jmlowe1 | I didn't think nova-scheduler needed a sql connection, but clearly I'm wrong | 15:01 |
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| rlrevell | i didn't think so either i though it just connects to rabbit | 15:04 |
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| rlrevell | you do have rpc_backend=rabbit in [default] on my system it | 15:04 |
| rlrevell | s in [oslo_messaging_rabbit] | 15:04 |
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| rlrevell | maybe it defaults to some sql thing if unset? | 15:04 |
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| jmlowe1 | it's kilo by the way | 15:05 |
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| rlrevell | mine as well | 15:08 |
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| rlrevell | and yeah it does connect to mysql | 15:08 |
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| rlrevell | thought i read somewhere that only nova-conductor talks to the DB | 15:09 |
| jmlowe1 | I sure wish verbose=True would give me some hints | 15:09 |
| jmlowe1 | and debug=true | 15:09 |
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| jmlowe1 | maybe it's time to break out sysdi? | 15:11 |
| jmlowe1 | sysdig | 15:11 |
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| rlrevell | auth_uri and auth_url look weird under keystone_authtoken but that shoudn't cause this issue | 15:13 |
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| rlrevell | i have http://pastebin.com/88bhd50Y | 15:13 |
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| jmlowe1 | I copied and pasted from http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_nova.html#nova-controller-install | 15:15 |
| jmlowe1 | well, that may be my problem | 15:15 |
| orzel | Hello. I keep on having those errors in my l3 agent log. Are they expected ? The output looks normal to me.. isn't it ? | 15:15 |
| orzel | http://pastebin.com/HKJKcXkm | 15:15 |
| jmlowe1 | I thought I was looking at the rhel family install guide | 15:15 |
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| rlrevell | shouldn't matter but people on here say red hat does weird packaging stuff wrt conf files | 15:16 |
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| rlrevell | jmlowe1: yeah, my conf was ported from juno so may be weird but it's working ok | 15:17 |
| rlrevell | openstack is really tolerant of wrong config files, stuff that i would think should make it fail to start just results in bizarre behavior ;-) | 15:18 |
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| jmlowe1 | yeah, I was over ruled in my distro selection, "when it's two in the morning and I have to fix it I want the distro I know", I failed to make my point about being able to google the answer at two in the morning and that the oddities of a distro are nothing compared to the oddities of the openstack packaging | 15:19 |
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| kodiakfff | Do I need IPMI fencing capabilities just on the controllers of an HA setup or is IPMI power fencing used by controllers to reboot hypervisors as well? | 15:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | orzel: what are you trying to do? | 15:53 |
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| rlrevell | kodiakfff: it looks like you want the controller to be able to IPMI power cycle compute nodes | 16:01 |
| rlrevell | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fencing_Instances_of_an_Unreachable_Host | 16:01 |
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| kodiakfff | Thanks once again rlrevell. I'm sorting out musical chairs on which networks what DRACs need to be housed within | 16:06 |
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| jskinner | I am trying to find documentation on using the nova api for service_delete. I can't seem to find it. Does any one have any experience with this call? | 16:23 |
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| annegentle | jskinner: one way to see the API calls for any given python-<project>client command is to use the --debug param | 16:29 |
| annegentle | jskinner: that'll show you each API call to each service in turn | 16:29 |
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| jskinner | perfect! | 16:29 |
| jskinner | Thanks | 16:30 |
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| annegentle | jskinner: then go to http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.html to read more about the API call itself | 16:30 |
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| jskinner | Wow that was easy. I was close. The delete service call for nova os-services actually isn't in the documentation so I have been just guessing at the format of the call. --debug worked great! | 16:35 |
| jskinner | Thanks again | 16:35 |
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| annegentle | jskinner: oh it's an extension, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2-ext.html#os-services | 16:36 |
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| jskinner | Yep. But the delete method isn't documented | 16:38 |
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| annegentle | jskinner: ah! Logging a bug | 16:40 |
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| annegentle | jskinner: by chance are you on v2 or v2.1? There's already a bug for 2.1 that os-services isn't documented at all | 16:41 |
| annegentle | (they're identical but trying to see what you're seeing) | 16:41 |
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| jskinner | I was calling v2 | 16:41 |
| annegentle | jskinner: ok, logging a bug | 16:41 |
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| jskinner | cool! | 16:42 |
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| mbeierl | Trying to get multi queue io to work as described here: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/56580/how-do-i-enable-multi-queue-virtio-in-novaconf/ , but I cannot find the /etc/default/kvm-qemu.conf file in RHEL 6. Anyone know where that would be? | 17:41 |
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| XicoLoco | other languages then english ? | 17:43 |
| XicoLoco | espanol | 17:43 |
| XicoLoco | portugues | 17:43 |
| XicoLoco | dutch | 17:43 |
| XicoLoco | ? | 17:43 |
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| georgem1 | XicoLoco: what's wrong with English? | 17:44 |
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| XicoLoco | nothing but we can do better ... only english is kind, not nice to everyone | 17:44 |
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| mbeierl | Anyone seen something like this before: every 4th or 5th ping packet between two VMs on different blades is 1-2 ms longer. Standard response time is .5ms, so I see a pattern like: 0.5, 0.6, 0.5, 1.5, 0.5 ... | 17:57 |
| mbeierl | Using GRE | 17:57 |
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| rlrevell | mbeierl: if you run openvswitch-agent with --debug so it logs every ovs command it executes i bet those delays line up with one of them | 18:14 |
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| coredump | if anyone is looking for a new job: https://boards.greenhouse.io/voxmedia/jobs/61959?gh_jid=61959#.VVTl7JNVhBc | 18:17 |
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| mbeierl | rlrevell: discovered that I had gro still on for a couple of the network interfaces. Turning it off everywhere seems to have solved the problem of the repeated delay. | 18:32 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: You around? | 18:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: marginally. whats up? | 18:45 |
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| loth | Was wondering if there was any planned documentation to how updates are handled with os-ansible-deployment/http://docs.rackspace.com/rpc/api/v10/bk-rpc-installation/content/ch-overview.html | 18:46 |
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| SamYaple | yea get on that Sam-I-Am. do ur job | 18:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | what sort of updates? | 18:46 |
| loth | Well system updates are probably not worth documenting (just run apt), however jumping openstack major versions is something that is a bit more complex | 18:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pull new repo branch, run upgrade script | 18:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | due to the un-raxification between v10 and v11, the upgrade script is a little more involved (but still easy to run) | 18:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | v11 to newer releases should be smoother because the structure wont be changing | 18:49 |
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| zarathustra | hi, how can I do a "neutron floatingip-list" for all my tenants ? | 18:50 |
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| loth | zarathustra: running that command as an admin user i get floating ip's from tenant networks | 18:51 |
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| zarathustra | loth: let me try it again, maybe because OS_TENANT_NAME is set | 18:52 |
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| zarathustra | loth: I am authenticated as admin, but I only get the floating ips from the admin tenant, if I unset OS_TENANT_NAME I get an authentication error | 18:55 |
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| loth | try https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8833502 ? | 18:56 |
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| loth | what release are you using? | 18:57 |
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| zarathustra | loth: icehouse | 18:59 |
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| zarathustra | loth: OS_PASSWORD, OS_USERNAME, OS_TENANT_NAME, OS_AUTH_URL are set for admin | 19:01 |
| loth | Ah, im running this on juno | 19:01 |
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| stupidnic | I have an issue that I need some assistance with. We are in the process of upgrading our compute nodes (VENOM horray!) and we live migrated instances off our first node, but we are unable to live migrate back to the instance. Checking the logs on the node I see DestinationDiskExists exception. | 20:37 |
| stupidnic | s/back to the instance/back to the node | 20:37 |
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