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| randybias | Please answer this https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenStack?src=hashhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenStack?src=hash Self-Improvement Mini-Survey… thanks in advance: http://t.co/AAg61iEis5 | 00:32 |
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| randybias | Appreciate it if you could take 2-3 mins to fill out this OpenStack survey by Friday: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/openstack-improvement-mini-survey-may-2015? | 00:32 |
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| CrtxReavr | Step one: Start over. | 01:42 |
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| urosorozel | Hi guys ... is there anyway I can update allocation_pools range of a subnet which is already in use? I'm using icehouse | 02:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | urosorozel: subnet-update ? | 02:39 |
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| urosorozel | Hi Sam-I-Am, .. it only has option --request-format {json,xml} ... and I've constructed one ... but I get read-only back :/ | 02:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | does that tenant own the subnet? | 02:41 |
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| urosorozel | yes | 02:41 |
| urosorozel | he does | 02:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like it might have become available in juno | 02:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least the allocation pool changes | 02:43 |
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| urosorozel | so no way? :( .. I've seen some guys doing sql update queries | 02:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can do anything in the database, but you dont know what it'll break | 02:45 |
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| urosorozel | yeah .. that is my worry | 02:47 |
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| SamYaple | Sam-I-Am: you are correct. updating the allocation_pools was fixed to work in Juno. icehouse requires a DB update | 05:23 |
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| SamYaple | urosorozel: i havent done that particular thing in a while, but i believe you just need to update teh db for that one column | 05:23 |
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| urosorozel | SamYaple, so it should not have any major affect on anything ? | 05:27 |
| SamYaple | it _shouldnt_ urosorozel, but this is a manual DB change. i would get a mintenance period and do a backup | 05:28 |
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| herch | Hi, | 05:30 |
| urosorozel | thanks SamYaple | 05:30 |
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| herch | since openstack uses /servers endpoint for VMs, how do I manage containers(like docker) and hypervisor like kvm running on same host? | 05:31 |
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| herch | because I guess I can have nova driver only for one of the VM/container type | 05:31 |
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| yalie | hi sdague: | 05:38 |
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| yalie | could you help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162063/ | 05:38 |
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| smallbig | hi, does anyone know if there's a config file for neutron named as /etc/neutron/plugins_conf.ini? | 06:18 |
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| IcePic | smallbig: google says there is | 06:22 |
| IcePic | for instance here: https://www.rdoproject.org/ML2_plugin | 06:22 |
| pkircher | i just have a plugins folder on kilo | 06:22 |
| pkircher | ni plugins.ini | 06:22 |
| pkircher | root@ns352928:~/os# ls /etc/neutron/ | 06:23 |
| pkircher | api-paste.ini dhcp_agent.ini fwaas_driver.ini l3_agent.ini lbaas_agent.ini metadata_agent.ini neutron.conf neutron.conf.bak plugins policy.d policy.json rootwrap.conf rootwrap.d | 06:23 |
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| pkircher | i guess it dep what version of openstack you are on | 06:24 |
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| smallbig | I'm on kilo, installed with github stable/kilo | 06:24 |
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| smallbig | in neutron-server.log it says http://paste.openstack.org/show/221536/ | 06:28 |
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| pkircher | weird .. | 06:29 |
| pkircher | it doesnt do that on ubuntu 15.04 | 06:29 |
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| pkircher | id grep for the “usage" | 06:29 |
| smallbig | and I went back to touch /etc/neutron/plugins_conf.ini, and service started without error | 06:29 |
| pkircher | well seems like something needs it | 06:29 |
| pkircher | but that might be just some config after all | 06:30 |
| pkircher | grep -srl “plugins_conf.ini” /etc/neutron | 06:30 |
| pkircher | needs to referenced somewhere | 06:30 |
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| smallbig | http://paste.openstack.org/show/221537/ | 06:32 |
| pkircher | allright .. | 06:32 |
| pkircher | thats weird now | 06:32 |
| smallbig | yep | 06:32 |
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| pkircher | well as long as the “touch” worked at its operational | 06:32 |
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| smallbig | yep, touch works | 06:33 |
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| smallbig | and I saw the log plugins_conf.ini loaded at the end of service starting log | 06:34 |
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| AliRezaTaleghani | I'am looking for a monitornig solution which to be able to perfectly monitor multiple installed openstack cloud in direfferent datacenter | 07:47 |
| AliRezaTaleghani | it seem's ganglia and nagios are in place | 07:47 |
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| AliRezaTaleghani | but is there other important concideration which i should be award before diving on? | 07:48 |
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| bell_juzo | Hello | 08:30 |
| bell_juzo | Has anyone have problem with soft reboot on compute host on juno ? | 08:30 |
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| kolaman | hi all, has some one tried installed opensatck on a single node ubuntu machine (offcourse for testing) | 09:06 |
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| IcePic | kolaman: google said yes => http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-machine.html | 09:07 |
| kolaman | i used the method http://astokes.org/ubuntu-openstack-installer/ on this page and having issues in installing. as soon i provide information like passwd/single node etc . .it breaks on something like addin gpermissiongs | 09:07 |
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| kolaman | IcePic: can i install openstack rather devstack . .as need to test this before promoting in prod. | 09:08 |
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| IcePic | I just took a few relevant words like "install openstack single ubuntu machine" and found that. Seemed close enough to share | 09:11 |
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| kolaman | IcePic: no doubt but there is a bit of difference between devstack and openstack . . | 09:12 |
| kolaman | devstack is purely for testing while openstack can be promoted to prod as well and currently running inprod env. | 09:13 |
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| IcePic | kolaman: I'm sure you are right, there are differences, but that may help as a starting point, or just a hint that others have had the same idea and needs as you currently do. | 09:17 |
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| SamYaple | kolaman: im not sure your usage, but i would never call a single box, SPOF Openstack "production" and more than I would for devstack | 09:36 |
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| smallbig | Hello, if I found http://paste.openstack.org/show/221660/ this message from neutron-openvswitch-agent.log, where should I dig for furthur information, thanks! | 09:37 |
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| yumingfei | Hi, everybody, I met a problem when I was trying to install nova(kilo) through source from github. I found the novncproxy can not be started with following message: | 10:40 |
| yumingfei | nova-novncproxy --config-file /etc/nova/nova.conf --daemonNo handlers could be found for logger "oslo_config.cfg" | 10:40 |
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| yumingfei | Can anybody give me some hints for it? | 10:41 |
| yumingfei | Thanks in advance~ | 10:41 |
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| bell | Has anybody have problem with soft reboot vm ? | 11:04 |
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| seens | Hi All | 11:09 |
| seens | Can anyone help me to resolve nova networking stuff | 11:10 |
| seens | i am trying to install openstack juno aal in one single node | 11:10 |
| seens | all the components installed successfully, but after adding nova network , if i type "nova list" command it's giving the error message as "ERROR (ConnectionRefused): Unable to establish connection to http://localhost:8774/v2/a6171c64b1c04c6d80032efffd99e1" | 11:11 |
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| bell | seens: nova on your host seems down | 11:12 |
| bell | seens: have you checked logs ? | 11:12 |
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| seens | <bell> Hi | 11:13 |
| bell | seens: hi | 11:13 |
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| seens | <bell> before adding the nova network content in nova.conf, i verified nova services is up and running | 11:13 |
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| seens | <bell> nova service-list and other nova commands worked before nova-network | 11:14 |
| bell | seens: try restart nova, and do "nova list" again | 11:14 |
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| seens | <bell> restart nova -> restarting all the nova services? | 11:15 |
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| bell | seens: hmm... nova-api and nova-compute should be ok | 11:15 |
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| seens | <bell> let me try it | 11:16 |
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| electrical | Hi all, Who can i bother about the job-builder python script? Getting a TypeError fault when it tries to collect the plugins with the latest jenkins version and freshly built git clone of the project | 11:30 |
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| bell | has someone have problem with rebooting ubuntu 14.04 via nova reboot ?/ | 12:53 |
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| Hu3y | Hi, I'm looking for informations about nova with docker! | 13:51 |
| Hu3y | There are a official driver for docker? | 13:52 |
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| orzel | I got a really strane warning when starting nova-api, does anyone know more about this ? | 14:00 |
| orzel | oslo_config.cfg [-] Option "username" from group "keystone_authtoken" is deprecated. Use option "username" from group "keystone_authtoken". | 14:00 |
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| pkircher | it says it all | 14:01 |
| pkircher | the config is wrong | 14:01 |
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| orzel | pkircher: it doesnt, i dont understand what i should change | 14:06 |
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| pkircher | read it | 14:06 |
| orzel | you read it | 14:06 |
| orzel | ah, known bug | 14:06 |
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| orzel | fixed but not released | 14:06 |
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| orzel | though i still dont know what i should change in my configuration file :/ | 14:07 |
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| muraiki | is there any information on patching openstack against the venom exploit? or is it safe to just use qemu and xen's patches? | 14:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pretty much have to wait for patches from your vendor if you're using packages | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise roll it yourself | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | orzel: that warning is annoying | 14:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | orzel: its caused by someone re-using a deprecated option from many releases ago for a different function now, and forgetting to update the deprecation messages | 14:43 |
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| orzel | ok. i guess 'username' is to be used there and i discard the warning. The (kilo) installation doc mentions it. | 15:04 |
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| orzel | I've udpated almost everything to kilo. Only horizon is lagging slightly behind | 15:05 |
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| orzel | I have this error on one compute node when an instance is created : libvirtError: Unable to write to '/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/machine/instance-00000043.libvirt-qemu/cpu.shares': No such file or directory | 15:08 |
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| orzel | accorded to google, that's some security-related problem, patched by redhat... but i dont really understand what causes it | 15:08 |
| orzel | according | 15:08 |
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| championofcyrodi | Hi. I have been using openstack since August of 2014 with the 'Icehouse' release. I've adopted the Mirantis fuel installer and have been learning a lot about ceph,nova,cinder,rabbitmq,neutron,vlans,consensus,swift,lvm,keystone,cinder,glance and so many other services. I am working in a team of 1-2 supporting 4 nodes running quite a few VMs with CEPH as the backend for all storage. in the last few months since we ha | 15:15 |
| championofcyrodi | http://paste.openstack.org/show/221882/ | 15:15 |
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| championofcyrodi | node-46 is constantly timing out w/ heartbeat_timeout issues. I've tried to read about rabbitmq but it's usage base is so broad i'm having trouble finding openstack juno timeout related fixes that are relevant to me. The work around has been, patience and 'trying again' and has become frustrating when using cloud-init with metadata service and trying to boot a custom cloud config. | 15:16 |
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| championofcyrodi | (vpc) | 15:16 |
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| championofcyrodi | if ANYONE has a moment to help me identify what is actually causing my 'heartbeat_timeout' i would be very appreciative. thanks in advance. | 15:18 |
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| IcePic | championofcyrodi: I have run ceph for a short while, but there, some people fill upp their links so as to lose heartbeats if you run all traffic over the same links. | 15:18 |
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| championofcyrodi | IcePic: that makes sense, ceph is utilizing 100% of network activity and causes rabbitmq to fail? | 15:19 |
| IcePic | or at least make it less probable that the heartbeats arrive in time | 15:19 |
| IcePic | could be a cause for hard-to-find reasons for loss of communications. | 15:20 |
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| evrardjp | championofcyrodi: I've got the same issue, even with a ceph cluster that is not rebuilding | 15:21 |
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| championofcyrodi | pcs status shows node-50 as 'master' for rabbitmq, however http://paste.openstack.org/show/221882/ shows it is consistently 'node-46' which is a slave in my rabbitmq consensus. does this scenario still lead you to believe it could be too much link usage? or do you think it could be node-46 only... | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | also using the Mirantis fuel installer | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | there is a known issue in the mirantis bug tracker IIRC | 15:22 |
| championofcyrodi | i've had 'good' performance with ceph... even rebalances seem to work okay. | 15:22 |
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| championofcyrodi | it seems that ONLY rabbitmq is my issue throughout all the services. | 15:22 |
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| evrardjp | IDD | 15:22 |
| championofcyrodi | also swapping is disabled... so that isnt it | 15:22 |
| evrardjp | What I've done for myself, which isn't a definitive fix | 15:23 |
| evrardjp | is to either restart completely the resource using crm | 15:23 |
| evrardjp | or sometimes, just shutting down the slaves and running on only one rabbitmq node | 15:23 |
| championofcyrodi | crm? i've used pcs to disable/enable the rabbitmq | 15:23 |
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| championofcyrodi | what is weird is this though, | 15:24 |
| championofcyrodi | =ERROR REPORT==== 13-May-2015::14:52:57 === closing AMQP connection <0.27886.239> (127.0.0.1:32972 -> 127.0.0.1:5673): {heartbeat_timeout,running} | 15:24 |
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| championofcyrodi | timeout on loopback ?! | 15:24 |
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| championofcyrodi | i've tracked the ephemeral ports, and they tend to point to python api services for neutron/nova/etc.. | 15:25 |
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| evrardjp | mmm, that's not what I had.. | 15:26 |
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| championofcyrodi | what is weird is just scheduling the launch of a VM seems to timeout. if it gets 'past' scheduling to 'spawning', then it tends to start w/o issue | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | it's only a metadata issue? | 15:27 |
| championofcyrodi | after 3-4 attempts failing... i just tried again and it started right up | 15:27 |
| championofcyrodi | i dont think it's specific to the openstack-neutron-metadata service. | 15:28 |
| championofcyrodi | (if that is what you mean) | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | if it started correctly, did you try to GET / on 169.254.168.254? | 15:28 |
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| evrardjp | ok | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | nvm then | 15:28 |
| championofcyrodi | yea, metadata service works. (when rabbitmq isnt timingout the heartbeat requests) | 15:28 |
| championofcyrodi | but i have seen that problem too. | 15:28 |
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| evrardjp | did you solve it? | 15:29 |
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| evrardjp | :D | 15:29 |
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| championofcyrodi | really, rabbitmq seems to be the single point of failure for openstack. | 15:29 |
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| evrardjp | there is a talk on the next summit about using 0mq | 15:29 |
| championofcyrodi | sure. just trying over and over is a real solution right? | 15:29 |
| championofcyrodi | zookeeper uses that | 15:29 |
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| championofcyrodi | which seems to guarantee delivery at the cost of performace (speed) | 15:30 |
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| juanluisrp | hello, in Openstack Dasboard -> Admin -> Instances I can view an instance without any project (it shows "-" in that column). How can operate this instance with nova command line, since I need a TENANT_ID to properly autenthicate myself? | 16:05 |
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| dasp | juanluisrp: authenticate as admin against admin tenant, admin role allows you to operate on any instance outside your project, you just need to provide instance ID, name wouldn't work | 16:06 |
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| juanluisrp | dasp: thank you. It worked. is there any way to move that instance to a project? | 16:08 |
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| dasp | most likely only in database, you'd have to update `instances` table | 16:09 |
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| mbeierl | How much of a performance cost is GRE in neutron? | 16:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mbeierl: depends on a number of things | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mbeierl: first, can your underlying network support jumbo frames. if so, you dont take a hit from lowering the mtu on your instances. | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mbeierl: the next question is processing overhead, nic drivers, and offloading. | 16:42 |
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| manous | helo | 17:13 |
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| manous | in my config , when i create VM i didnt get automatic ip . But when i add ip manually on VM , i can ping another VM but not gateway. What can be wrong | 17:15 |
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| manous | http://paste.openstack.org/show/221981/ | 17:25 |
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| mbeierl | Sam-I-Am: we've got jumbo frames turned on, and gro off. Actually gro did not make a difference. Either way I get ping rtt ~0.5 ms and max 910mbit/s on gigbit interfaces | 17:35 |
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| XicoLoco | buenos dias | 17:40 |
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| rlrevell | kilo packages for ubuntu! would i be correct in assuming they're identical to -rc1? | 18:04 |
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| j^2 | hey all, is this the best place to ask about the summit next week? | 18:10 |
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| wasmum | anyone dealing with the venom vuln and qemu-kvm version on centos 7? | 18:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mbeierl: 910 mb/s on a git interface sounds good | 18:17 |
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| XicoLoco | bom diaaaaa | 18:24 |
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| bleepbloop | Hey guys, just curious, I am trying to use the openstack ubuntu landscape installer and I noticed it has a requirement of 3 servers, each with multiple harddrives. Does anyone know the specific reason for the multiple harddrives requirement? | 18:46 |
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| morsik | bleepbloop: for storage redundancy (raid) probably… | 18:47 |
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| bleepbloop | morsik: I had a feeling it might be that, the only issue is if I then configured a hardware raid it would probably detect it as 1 drive, and it seems to me that it would probably be better to use a hardware raid than a software one, I had a feeling it might also be a weird intricacy with how it is provisioning the boxes, but I was hoping to find out the | 18:50 |
| bleepbloop | specifics | 18:50 |
| morsik | so maybe it's one hdd for OS, and second for other stuff… no idea. we don't use ubuntu :P | 18:50 |
| XicoLoco | yeah we dont | 18:51 |
| XicoLoco | try hard to use hardware RAID, because software raid is far more slow | 18:51 |
| XicoLoco | just a advice | 18:52 |
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| bleepbloop | morsik XicoLoco no problem, does anyone here have any experience with using landscape specifically? | 19:35 |
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| lindenle | Hi all. Is there a way to ask heat or nova ton the cli for the total resources used by a stack? i.e. vcpus, disk, memory etc.? | 20:03 |
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| muraiki | where can I find out the size limit per metadata item? is it something I can change, or a hard limit? | 20:05 |
| larsks | lindenle: I *think* you may be able to get that via ceilometer, but you would need to add metadata to the nova instances created by your heat stack that would allow grouping them in ceilometer queries. | 20:05 |
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| larsks | Alternatively, it might be simpler to write a simple Python script that would introspect the heat stack, talk to nova, and produce that information for you. | 20:06 |
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| larsks | muraiki: looking at the database in mysql, it looks like both the key and value are limited to 255 characters. | 20:08 |
| muraiki | larsks: thanks so much! | 20:08 |
| lindenle | larsks: Im not sure I can add metadata on this stack. I looked at the GUI and found what i needed, but the python script sounds like the best solution in the future. Thanks! | 20:09 |
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| orzel | anyone could help me with this error ? Google can't. libvirtError: Unable to write to '/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/machine/instance-0000005f.libvirt-qemu/cpu.shares': No such file or directory | 21:04 |
| orzel | http://pastebin.com/LLyfs6n8 | 21:04 |
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| orzel | it happens on a host with same version of libvirt/qemu than others, which work well | 21:04 |
| orzel | /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/machine/ exists but i can't see any instance-* dir there | 21:05 |
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| diogogmt | anybody recomend any fully hosted openstack solution? | 21:06 |
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| diogogmt | i remeber seeing a list on the offical openstack site but i can’t seem to find it now | 21:06 |
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| orzel | ok, found the problem, some missing CGROUP related options in kernel. This being undocumented is really frustrating :-( | 21:30 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: Do the openstack ansible deployment scripts staticly assign ip's to containers or dhcp? | 22:11 |
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| loth | I assume there would be an issue with lease times expiring and service ip changing with dhcp | 22:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | loth: static, via inventory using the networks provided in the config file | 22:35 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: referring to os-ansible-deployment correct? | 22:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | loth: yes | 22:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres no dhcp for anything | 22:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | (except neutron networks, but thats an openstack thing) | 22:39 |
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| loth | Sam-I-Am: Ok, i found https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/f1ecad70a22943446742953de3f66f39ac1d47d0/playbooks/roles/lxc_container_create/defaults/main.yml which was a bit confusing since it had eth0 as dhcp and i see references to dnsmasq on the lxc host | 22:42 |
| loth | I see lxc_container_interface: now which is probably where the static ip assignment is | 22:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, there is an interface in each container that uses dhcp, eth0 | 22:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | but its served internally | 22:43 |
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| loth | what is that interface used for? just internal communication? openstack services are always going to be on the static assignment? | 22:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | openstack services always use the static interfaces | 22:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, container access to the outside world (unless it specifically uses one of the additional interfaces) uses eth0, and nat. | 22:49 |
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| loth | Why not just configure eth0 with a static ip and use that? | 22:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | because thats not how containers work | 22:53 |
| zarathustra | hi, what's the difference between security groups and firewall ? | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing | 22:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | except security groups only impact your instances. a system-level firewall impacts the system. | 22:55 |
| loth | Sam-I-Am: I dont understand, containers can certainly not use dhcp for the primary interface | 22:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure, but if that interface doesnt matter, why not let it auto configure? | 22:57 |
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| loth | Well, its just another IP used that is unneeded, im assuming that ansible configues dnsmasq to keep track of hostnames it has configured to dhcp? I can see if you have dhcp server conflicts that may cause some problems | 22:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the dhcp stuff and the container 'base' interface are maintained entirely by lxc | 23:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it goes container eth0 -> iptables -> default gateway on host | 23:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | its natted, so the 10.3.0/24 network never escapes | 23:02 |
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| loth | and the dnsmasq/dhcp server stuff is only on the deployment node? | 23:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its on the target nodes that run containers | 23:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its completely internal to lxc | 23:07 |
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| loth | is the lxc dnsmasq unrelated to the os-ansible-deployment project? | 23:11 |
| loth | first ive heard of that | 23:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | its an lxc thing | 23:12 |
| loth | interesting | 23:13 |
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| loth | does ansible manage dhcp-host/dhcp-hostsfile? | 23:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for the eth0 interface in containers? | 23:15 |
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| loth | Yeah, i assume that would ensure they always had that ip when they started | 23:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | lxc manages that, iirc | 23:17 |
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| loth | Is there a reason that the project uses lxc over something like the kolla project https://github.com/stackforge/kolla which looks to be kinda redundant? | 23:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lxc felt the most mature at the time, built into linux. | 23:20 |
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| SamYaple | loth: to be fair, kolla was going off way in the wrong direction at the time (requiring triple-o and kubernetes) | 23:29 |
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| SamYaple | that said i like what the future has for the kolla project, but its not "production" grade yet | 23:29 |
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