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| dgbaley | Sam-I-Am: ml2: http://paste.openstack.org/show/413464/ , linuxbridge: http://paste.openstack.org/show/413463/, $(ip a; brctl show): http://paste.openstack.org/show/413465/ | 03:11 |
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| dgbaley | enp19s0 <-> br-trunk0 (w/ management IP) <-> campus0-a=campus0-b <-> neutron-linux-bridge. From there neutron adds campus0-b to a bridge for a flat network on the untagged vlan, and then campus0-b.## for the vlans | 03:13 |
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| elenhil | hello, guys! | 03:36 |
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| elenhil | can someone tell me how long does it take to start an instance using vm backend for nova? | 03:36 |
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| elenhil | lvm* | 03:36 |
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| SenolE | hello | 03:39 |
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| SenolE | Do you know any document for LBaaS v2+Haproxy over seprated manual installed Kilo architecture(Centos{Controller-Network-Compute)? | 03:47 |
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| ndru | elenhil: Starting an instance with a volume already created and an image already present on it? <5 seconds for me. | 03:52 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: You around? | 04:08 |
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| hitecnologys | I've got this weird glance problem: image-create gets stuck at POST request to http://controller:9292/v2/images and image is indefinitely hanging in queued state. | 04:58 |
| hitecnologys | It used to work before since I've managed to add cirros image. | 04:59 |
| hitecnologys | Anyone encountered similar problems? Any pointers where to look? Logs don't have any error so as --debug output. | 04:59 |
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| kklimonda | hmm, I've enabled multiple domain support in keystone, but it seems something is missing from my python-openstackclient config - I get "No domain information specified as part of list request" when I call openstack user list --domain [domain] | 05:27 |
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| kklimonda | I wonder if it's due ancient openstackclient version from trusty.. | 05:36 |
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| kklimonda | indeed, that seemed to be an issue - works fine with 1.6.0 | 05:58 |
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| zhizhang | does any know how add a role that can add user to one tenant ,like a tenant_manager? | 06:23 |
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| b-tag | Guys, can you think of any handy guide about how to start with OpenStack under Windows host and Debian VirtualBox guests? | 07:13 |
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| ygk | is anyone here familiar with python | 07:22 |
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| lifeless | b-tag: any of the getting started docs for stuff in debian; for windows look at the hyperv docs | 07:37 |
| lifeless | ygk: nearly everyone... openstack is written in Python | 07:37 |
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| ygk | i have written a code which simply uses paramiko library and executes a remote ssh command | 07:38 |
| ygk | but sometimes it takes a long time for the results to be displayed | 07:38 |
| ygk | so I want to display a progress bar which shows the status of this operation | 07:38 |
| ygk | any idea how to do it ? | 07:38 |
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| azjo | If i have a windows server on a virtual device, and have a backup of this running simultaneously, do i need multiple licenses? | 08:50 |
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| krypto | is there any way to change hostname of already running instance by changing instance name | 09:05 |
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| b-tag | krypto, depends on the os, i think | 09:17 |
| rozie | hi. can anybody confirm this behaviour on Kilo? https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/80011/kilo-non-public-snapshots-visible-for-everyone/ | 09:18 |
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| krypto | b-tag tried on centos 6 and debian wheezy none worked .Renamed instance and did a hard reboot | 09:26 |
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| b-tag | krypto, AFAIK, to change the hostname on Debian you need to update /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf, then reboot | 09:32 |
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| krypto | b-tag i am aware about manually changing the hostname looking for someway to change it automatically by changing instance name | 09:33 |
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| G4njaWizard | Hi fellas, i have a issue with verifying glance in keystone. I am doing a mininmal juno setup on ubuntu. | 09:41 |
| G4njaWizard | made everything step by step and everytime i want to add an image, i get an invalid credentials error. | 09:42 |
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| hoonetorg | hi channel: anybody using distributed virtual router scenario succesful with neutron (http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_dvr_ovs.html)? | 11:25 |
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| hoonetorg | is it working reliable with centos 7.1, rdo kilo | 11:26 |
| hoonetorg | ? | 11:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hoonetorg: it works | 12:19 |
| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: :) | 12:20 |
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| Mike-asso | hello | 13:10 |
| Mike-asso | I'm newbie on Openstack | 13:10 |
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| Mike-asso | I'd like to sync datas on a synology NAS, and upload them on a Public Cloud OVH | 13:10 |
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| Mike-asso | Is there someone speaking french to deal with? else to help me in english here? Thank you ;) :) | 13:11 |
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| larsks | Mike-asso: I don't speak any french, but I see that there is a french openstack organization at http://openstack.fr/. Do they have any mailing lists/forums/etc that might help? | 13:14 |
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| b-tag | Guys, I'm trying to install devstack but I get an error: http://pastebin.com/nqPjVnJE | 13:18 |
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| b-tag | Something like: ssl.PROTOCOL_SSLv3: OpenSSL.SSL.SSLv3_METHOD, AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'PROTOCOL_SSLv3' | 13:19 |
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| Mike-asso | @larsks: thank you. Gonna see there :) | 13:21 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | Hello, has anyone seen this error before? | 13:28 |
| cbrown2_ocf | NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 13:28 |
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| larsks | cbrown2_ocf: yeah, that's a very common error. It typically means something is wrong with your neutron configuration. | 13:51 |
| larsks | First place to look is probably the openvswitch agent log. | 13:51 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | larsks, thanks, have grepped endlessly but unable to see what the problem is | 14:00 |
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| alexschm | cbrown2_ocf: are your clocks synchronized on the controller and compute nodes? | 14:02 |
| alexschm | I often get this error when they are not | 14:02 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | a few seconds out, I'll poke ntp | 14:04 |
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| alexschm | hm a few seconds shouldn't be a problem | 14:04 |
| larsks | cbrown2_ocf: Less grepping, more looking specifically at what messages are getting logged by openvswitch-agent when an instance is trying to boot... | 14:04 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | larsks, it almost seems like its not getting passed the correct arguments | 14:16 |
| larsks | In that sentence, "it" is....? | 14:16 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | neutron | 14:19 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/255173/14395620/ | 14:21 |
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| larsks | Where is that from? | 14:21 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | compute host | 14:21 |
| larsks | Right. But from the nova-compute log? Or somewhere else? | 14:22 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | ah yeah, nova-compute.log | 14:22 |
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| larsks | Okay. So what appears in the openvswitch-agent.log with the same/similar timestamp? | 14:22 |
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| cbrown2_ocf | hmmmm, Port f8bfa80b-41ae-4353-8228-fd9219fc0816 not present in bridge br-int | 14:24 |
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| alejandrito | hi, we have a KILO cloud under ubuntu, after a total power off of the cloud after restarting rabbitmq, mysql databases and every service, half of the instances (on the compute nodes) dont have the tap interfaces on their XML's and the linux interfaces tap - qvo - qvbe never gets created, doing hard reboots, etc doesnt recreate the taps, someone ran into this problem ? | 14:51 |
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| evilrob | we have devs worried about speed writing to a cinder volume backed by ceph inside a VM. Just tested on our production hardware. cinder->ceph writes are more than twice as fast as the ZFS filesystems they're dumping to now. (same blocksize they're writing with and approximately same file size) | 15:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: ok? | 15:20 |
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| evilrob | this is basically me publicly thumbing my nose at them. | 15:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: does it involve someone owing you beer? | 15:22 |
| evilrob | 200 parallel writes is 15times as fast on the cinder volume vs native | 15:22 |
| evilrob | scotch actually | 15:22 |
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| evilrob | though all it really affected was who would expense the bottle. | 15:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | must be nice | 15:26 |
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| evilrob | which part... having hardware, or the expense account? | 15:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | all of the above? | 15:30 |
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| ndru | Afternoon all, still working on a continuation of an issue. Traffic from a different subnet coming out of my instance's tap device, into the bridge is not being picked up by the OVS device in the bridge and forwarded on. Where can I look to see ovs' source verification in the flows? Or have a deeper understanding of what's happening on that interface? | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: 'different subnet' ? | 16:32 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: Yes. This instance has a VPN server with a subnet routed over it. The tenant network subnet has a hostroute pointing this subnet with a nexthop of the VPN instance. Traffic from another instance on the tenant network (i.e. icmp) is traversing into the VPN instance, going over the VPN tunnel and to the destination. The return traffic is coming back and the VPN instance is sending it out to the oth | 16:37 |
| ndru | er instance. But, the packets are ... | 16:37 |
| ndru | ... stopping at the device inside the bridge with the VPN instance's tap device. | 16:37 |
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| ndru | Here are some dumps displaying this. http://hastebin.com/vixumabute.sm | 16:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: does the bridge implement security groups that might block unknown mac/ip ? | 16:39 |
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| najeeb | hey | 16:40 |
| ndru | Security Groups are disabled globally and NoopFirewallDrivers are implemented. | 16:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do you see anything on the bridge? | 16:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | iptables rules, of sorts | 16:40 |
| ndru | I see bi-directional traffic on the bridge and the tap, but not the qvb | 16:41 |
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| ndru | Hmmm. Like on the compute node itself? | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do any of these packets come back with incorrect checksums? | 16:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in tcpdump | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's sometimes issues when you play games like this with checksumming, and the bridge drops incorrectly checksummed packets | 16:42 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: I don't see any checksum errors when tcpdumping on the bridge device. 64, id 29997, offset 0, flags [DF], proto ICMP (1), length 84) | 16:42 |
| ndru | err | 16:43 |
| ndru | 192.168.2.11 > 10.48.16.169: ICMP echo request, id 5456, seq 2987, length 64 | 16:43 |
| ndru | 00:40:46.296237 fa:16:3e:98:a5:d3 > fa:16:3e:0e:90:1e, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 98: (tos 0x0, ttl 62, id 3604, offset 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 84) | 16:43 |
| ndru | http://hastebin.com/dowuvusepe.sm ** | 16:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: so, the packets supposedly drop in the bridge, right? | 16:43 |
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| ndru | They supposedly drop in the OVS Device (how I'm referring to the qvb interface) as opposed to the Bridge (how I'm referring to the qbr) | 16:44 |
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| ndru | For instance, a direct icmp from instance A<->B shows bi-directional traffic in all three interfaces. http://hastebin.com/dizivodudo.sm | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you check the flows in the ovs bridge? | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | see if the drop rule is incrementing? | 16:45 |
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| ndru | They're pretty cryptic. I'm still trying to understand them, but that's a good idea. This would be on the br-int flows, right? | 16:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah, where qvb plugs into | 16:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they are cryptic, but with ofctl dump-flows you should be able to see the number of drops for the rules | 16:48 |
| ndru | Which part of this will increment? cookie=0x0, duration=70274.675s, table=23, n_packets=0, n_bytes=0, idle_age=65534, hard_age=65534, priority=0 actions=drop | 16:48 |
| ndru | n_packets? | 16:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | n_packets and n_bytes | 16:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | but n_packets is the most useful | 16:49 |
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| ndru | Yeah, doing a constant ping and no increment or increase in bytes. | 16:50 |
| ndru | Still showing 0 for both on br-int | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | maybe its getting dropped on one of the other bridges? | 16:51 |
| ndru | Just watched the flows on br-tun aswell, same story. None of the action=DROP lines are incrementing while I'm sending the icmp requests | 16:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are any incrementing? | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you see the icmp packets traversing the tunnel? | 16:52 |
| ndru | Yes | 16:52 |
| ndru | I see incrementing in other flows | 16:53 |
| ndru | There's a ton of traffic from the other instances | 16:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can you pick out your specific traffic? | 16:54 |
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| ndru | I see the echo request leave the instance, into tap, go over its bridge, into the OVS device, over GRE, into OVS device, over the VPN instance's tunnel, into tap, show up. Then the return traffic makes it from the VPN tunnel to the tap for the VPN instance, into the bridge, and doesn't show up on the GRE or the other compute node on any interface. | 16:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just to clarify, its getting through the linux bridge, right? | 16:57 |
| ndru | Checked the flows on both computes (watch -n1 ovs-ofctl dump-flows) for both bridges and nothing with a DROP is incrementing. | 16:57 |
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| ndru | Yes, everything that I'm seeing shows the return traffic getting to the qbr, but not into the qvb | 17:09 |
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| ndru | Also, checked the iptables rules on the box and nothing associated with the qbr or qvb, only the tap. | 17:10 |
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| ndru | Actually.... | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | qvo is on the linuxbridge side, right? | 17:12 |
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| ndru | tap and qvb are in qbr | 17:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | qvo is on the ovs side... | 17:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so its getting dropped in the linux bridge then... | 17:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | theres no iptables rules on the bridge? | 17:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | or the tap? | 17:13 |
| ndru | Well, I see a source rule: -A neutron-openvswi-sb1daf359-f -s 192.168.2.10/32 -m mac --mac-source FA:16:3E:98:A5:D3 -m comment --comment "Allow traffic from defined IP/MAC pairs." -j RETURN | 17:13 |
| ndru | That's scary | 17:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | why is that scary? | 17:14 |
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| ndru | Because I'm going to be sourcing from a different subnet using the same MAC | 17:15 |
| ndru | And it's already in allowed_address_pairs | 17:15 |
| ndru | But, that doesn't seem to have been implemented in the iptables rules | 17:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you disabled secgroups | 17:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | so it wont apply | 17:15 |
| ndru | But, those rules are live | 17:15 |
| ndru | So, the drop is still happening, isn't it? | 17:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you dont see your allowed pairs in iptables, do you? | 17:16 |
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| ndru | No, I don't | 17:19 |
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| ndru | I can use a CIDR in allowed_address_pairs, right? | 17:21 |
| ndru | http://paste.openstack.org/raw/414637/ | 17:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it should | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | juno+ at least | 17:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what i'm not sure about is if they're applied if youve disabled security groups | 17:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | since they use the same mechanism, iirc | 17:26 |
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| ndru | I'm trying to read through the rule chain to see | 17:41 |
| ndru | I'm not opposed to re-enabling the firewall driver | 17:41 |
| ndru | I only disabled it to try and eliminate it | 17:41 |
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| hezhiqiang | Somebody knows this doc http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/trove-install.html is suitable for install trove in Ubuntu 14.04 of Openstack Kilo ? | 17:43 |
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| ndru | hezhiqiang: This one is probably more suitable: http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/trove-install.html | 17:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | trove is no longer supported by the installation guide | 17:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | because the packages are infinitely broken | 17:47 |
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| hezhiqiang | ndru: Thank you, i have not found the installation item of ubuntu in the TOC, thanks . | 17:49 |
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| ndru | But, that's for Juno, not for Kilo and as Sam-I-Am explained it's not supported. | 17:51 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: !!! I removed the root@compute:~# iptables -D neutron-openvswi-sb1daf359-f -m comment --comment "Drop traffic without an IP/MAC allow rule." -j DROP and it's flowing correctly now! | 17:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, yeah | 17:53 |
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| ndru | Why would those rules be affecting anything if security groups are disabled? The test I'm going to do now is to re-enable them and see if the address pairs rule is added as expected. | 17:56 |
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| ndru | If so, it'll be case closed | 17:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | the ip/mac rules for the vm itself may happen regardless of secgroups | 17:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | i cant remember | 17:56 |
| ndru | Do you know which service handles those rulesets? is it ovs-cleanup or the agent? | 17:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | agent | 17:57 |
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| ndru | I have a handful of active sessions that can't be affected by an agent restart right now to test it | 17:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 'sessions' ? | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | agent restart should not break existing connections | 17:58 |
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| ndru | Hmm. Didn't break anything this time. | 17:59 |
| ndru | It has in the past | 17:59 |
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| ndru | With a restart of agent, that drop rule wasn't repopulated. | 17:59 |
| ndru | And it didn't add the -j RETURN for the subnet in allowed address pairs. | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it may take a while | 18:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | also, did you enable secgroups in all the right places? | 18:02 |
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| amtux | Hi guys! I am trying to deploy OS::Neutron::SecurityGroups via heat template. The model security rules I'm following have the protocol set as Integer(not TCP/ICMP/UDP). Whenever we try to deploy, it says that we cannot use an Integer for the protocol. I am wondering if it is possible to replicate this with a heat template or if anyone ran into same problem as me. | 19:02 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: Still working on getting those enabled now. But I see that it added the rule when I enabled it in ml2_conf | 19:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: there's a few places it goes | 19:38 |
| ndru | nova.conf and ml2, right? | 19:39 |
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| obedmr | hi there, does anyone here have made work the devstack + SSL conf? (using TLS-proxy) | 19:41 |
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| kangarooo | shoking video about islamic state, must watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df4KB30K0UU | 19:49 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: Seems I broke the metadata service. | 19:50 |
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| CTWill | So I have a vm that is stuck trying to delete itself for about a week now. | 20:07 |
| CTWill | I tried nova reset-state and get failed: No server with a name or ID | 20:07 |
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| CTWill | I think the instance was build on a volume and the volume storage went away | 20:08 |
| CTWill | anyone seen this before? | 20:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: oops? | 20:12 |
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| clouddig | Using the openstack command line client, is it possible to find the projects associated with a user? | 20:13 |
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| clouddig | I thought something like "openstack role list --user ID" would list that users roles for all projects, but it doesn't | 20:14 |
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| clouddig | found it "openstack role assignment list --user ID" | 20:19 |
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| geaaru | hi, does keystone-8.0.0.0b2 support Routes-2.2 ? thanks in advance | 20:21 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: Lol. Security Groups back to being fully enabled at this time and I've still got full flowing traffic to the subnets on the other side of the VPN. I've been intermittently hammering away on this for the last few days. Thank you so much for your help today. | 20:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: so, you see the allowed pair now? | 20:46 |
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| ndru | Yes! | 20:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool | 20:47 |
| ndru | The only thing I need to look further into is how to override the host route added to the VPN instance so it doesn't try to route the subnet to itself, and instead sends it into the VPN interface. | 20:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | figured that might be it | 20:47 |
| ndru | Which is only a problem right now if that machine is rebooted | 20:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | ndru: whats dding the route? | 20:48 |
| ndru | DHCP I assume | 20:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | adding | 20:48 |
| ndru | I added it as a hostroute for the 192.168.2.0/24 subnet. So anything I put on it will automatically add the additional subnet's route to point locally. | 20:48 |
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| ndru | Instead of traversing the tenant network out to my WAF/FW to be pointed back all the way through the tenant network back to the VPN instance. | 20:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | trying to figure out why dhcp would add a host route | 20:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless there was some weird config | 20:49 |
| ndru | I don't know factually how it's being added. I just know that interface is dhcp leased and I added it as a hostroute in the subnet config. After doing so and restarting the interface, I'm seeing the route pop up on all the devices on that subnet. | 20:50 |
| ndru | The neutron subnet config, tha tis. | 20:50 |
| ndru | that is* | 20:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, that would do it | 20:54 |
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| ndru | I think the metadata service is just going to have to chill for a bit, I've got actual work to get done today :P | 21:03 |
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| particleman | /msg NickServ SETPASS particleman qzyzxkaseyzz whenwill0penstackw0rk?! | 21:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: whats up with md? | 21:07 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: Connection refused from inside instances and there are no ports listening on the controller on port 9697. | 21:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | ndru: hummmmm | 21:09 |
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| ndru | Processes are running, logs have nothing but positive things like "listening on 0.0.0.0:9697" | 21:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if it says listening... but its not? | 21:11 |
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| echirivella | Hi | 21:12 |
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| ndru | Well, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. netstat -tunap on the controller itself is where I'm looking. And I don't see any port 9697. Does it listen inside the netns? | 21:12 |
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| ndru | I'm following (or trying to) this iptables rule in the router: -A neutron-l3-agent-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -i qr-+ -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9697 | 21:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ndru: it should be listening where the md agent is running | 21:14 |
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| ndru | Okay. | 21:14 |
| ndru | Seems it may be this subnet, I just noticed it's not broken for another tenant network. Just the one I was working on earlier. | 21:15 |
| larsks | ndru: you will not see port 9697 open on the controller. This port is bound inside the qrouter network namespaces. | 21:15 |
| larsks | So: ip netns exec qrouter-... netstat -tln *should* see it. | 21:16 |
| larsks | Is it not? | 21:16 |
| ndru | Yep, it's not. | 21:16 |
| ndru | It is on my other qrouters, but not this one. | 21:16 |
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| larsks | Okay. Never mind me, then. | 21:17 |
| ndru | Well, by that I mean this qrouter that it's not working on must be broken. Because, it exists and is listening on the qrouters in the networks it is working on. | 21:17 |
| ndru | How can I re-initialize the qrouter without deleting and recreating? | 21:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | restarting the l3 agent might refresh things | 21:18 |
| ndru | No luck there | 21:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | restart md? | 21:20 |
| ndru | Yeah, I've tried that several times too. No luck there. | 21:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | is verbose on in the config? | 21:20 |
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| ndru | metadata.ini config? | 21:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | and does neutron agent-list show it happy? | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 21:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, metadata_agent.ini or whatever | 21:21 |
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| larsks | If you can take a service interruption, shutting down neutron, running "neutron-netns-cleanup", "neutron-ovs-cleanup", then restarting neutron will re-create everything. | 21:21 |
| ndru | It shows happy in agent-list | 21:21 |
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| lhinds | exit | 21:21 |
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| ndru | With debug and verbose enabled, I see no warnings or errors. Just a buttload of config directive lines | 21:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does anything appear when an instance tries to get md? | 21:23 |
| ndru | No | 21:24 |
| ndru | On the client, I get connection refused and no log entries for any OS service. | 21:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the... client? | 21:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | as in, curl from within the vm? | 21:25 |
| ndru | yes | 21:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you tried to see where the packets are going? | 21:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | its on 169.254.169.254:80, right? | 21:26 |
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| particleman | anyone have experience modifying libvirt.xml for an openstack instance in such a way that the change is honored when nova starts the instance? | 21:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | particleman: this sounds like a bad idea | 21:44 |
| particleman | sam-i-am, yes. | 21:44 |
| particleman | it is. | 21:44 |
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| particleman | but we need it for a work-around until we fix the underlying problem. | 21:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | particleman: whats the problem? | 21:46 |
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| particleman | need to change the IP for the underlying iscsi volume | 21:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cant change the openstack config and rekick the vm? | 21:52 |
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| particleman | sam-i-am, that would be a last resort in this case | 21:58 |
| hoonetorg | when using ovs ovs-vsctl show shows different bridge names as brctl show, respectively the bridge which libvirtd connects instance to. where is explained how that works | 21:58 |
| hoonetorg | (on netwokrk node) | 21:59 |
| hoonetorg | sorry hhmmm on compute node for sure | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | there shouldnt be linux bridges on the network node, just the compute node | 21:59 |
| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: yes i corrected myself in the next line | 22:00 |
| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: indeed this happens on the compute node | 22:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | hoonetorg: see http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_legacy_ovs.html | 22:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats probably the scenario you're using | 22:01 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: probably, i will read that and try to understand | 22:03 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: mmhhh, ok, i don't get how qvo on br-int (ovs) connects to qvb on linux bridge qvb | 22:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | veth pair | 22:09 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: so somebody did a ip link add qvoa10c4978-21 type veth peer name qvba10c4978-21 (or the other way around)? | 22:21 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: but how can i see this (ip link list doesn't show that on compute node) | 22:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, openstack did that | 22:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | ip -d link show | 22:22 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: thx, and I additional searched for "who is its partner" and found that "ethtool -S" gives me that information (see also https://gist.github.com/hoonetorg/f5806bcdc9ec3cc0253d) | 22:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | hoonetorg: yeah, ethtool does too | 22:33 |
| hoonetorg | OMG: dear openstack guys and openvswitch guys: why on earth make this so difficult???? | 22:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | hoonetorg: thats why you use the linux bridge agent :) | 22:34 |
| hoonetorg | I talked to my teacher today and he is fine with linux bridge,,,, buttttttt | 22:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | check out the legacy scenario with linux bridge | 22:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | part of the problem is that iptables cannot act on ovs bridges | 22:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so thats why that extra linux bridge exists on the compute nodes | 22:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | at that rate, you might as well just remove openvswitch from the equation :) | 22:35 |
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| hoonetorg | he has no access to the switches (only switch ports for the tunnel interfaces, currently he uses gre) | 22:36 |
| hoonetorg | but he need loooads of provider networks .... | 22:36 |
| hoonetorg | linuxbridge, provider networks, with gre or vxlan ?????? | 22:37 |
| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: is this possible | 22:37 |
| hoonetorg | ? | 22:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, you can hybrid | 22:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | just attach the external network to both the network node(s) and all compute nodes | 22:37 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: yeah, thats http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_legacy_lb.html (the scheme somewhere in the middle) | 22:41 |
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| hoonetorg | so linuxbridge ml2 supports provider networks via gre or vxlans? | 22:41 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: ? | 22:42 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: must read a bit more, too less background knowledge, gaaahhhh, currently i mix up provider networks and tenant networks | 22:51 |
| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: but be sure "I'll be back" to ask more (live 10km away from Thalerhof - birth town of Arni) | 22:52 |
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| droyo | anyone know if compute.instance.{create|delete}.end notifications been removed from newer releases of OpenStack? | 23:08 |
| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: regardless if i use ovs or linuxbridge: provider networks are always separated by VLANs ? right or wrong! | 23:08 |
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| droyo | I just upgraded from Grizzly to Juno and don't see these notifications anymore | 23:08 |
| hoonetorg | (see also http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_provider_ovs.html and http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/deploy_scenario4b.html) | 23:09 |
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| ndru | Sam-I-Am: Yeah, it's attempting 169.254.169.254, which is getting caught by that iptables rule. But, I think larsks is onto something by showing me that 0.0.0.0:9697 is supposed to be listening on the qrouter and for this subnet, it's not. I can now afford to bring it all down afterhours and reload netns-cleanup and ovs-cleanup to see what happens. | 23:20 |
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| hoonetorg | Sam-I-Am: docs.openstack.org/networking-guide is really great | 23:29 |
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| ndru | Ran through the neutron-netns-cleanup, and restarted neutron-ovs-cleanup. It didn't clean up the qrouter net ns'. And the metadata service is still not listening on the broken qrouter. | 23:31 |
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| ndru | (After restarting all other neutron services after that) | 23:31 |
| hoonetorg | channel: i understood from all documentation the terminology "provider network" is used for external networks, which resides in the existing infrastructure, can be either flat or vlan (but !not! vxlan or gre). is that right? | 23:32 |
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| ndru | That's correct | 23:32 |
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| ndru | I have a mix of provider networks, one is flat, 3 are tagged on a vlan trunk port | 23:33 |
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| ndru | I use GRE as a tunnel between each of the compute nodes and network nodes. | 23:34 |
| ndru | Each one creates a separate tunnel for all other boxen. | 23:34 |
| ndru | Something that isn't stressed enough in the install guide imo is the importance of jumbo frames or lowered mtu | 23:35 |
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| ndru | I tried dealing with lowered MTU for awhile and ran into problems especially with windows instances which do not ask the DHCP server for the appropriate MTU | 23:36 |
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| ndru | Until finally caving and enabling jumbo frames on the tunneling ports on my switches. | 23:36 |
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| hoonetorg | ndru: thx very much | 23:43 |
| hoonetorg | i read doc inbetween, that's why i did not answer immediately | 23:43 |
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| hoonetorg | ndru: i know about that mtu stuff, my switch supports 9216 and it's enabled generally | 23:44 |
| hoonetorg | channel: ndru: that means "--provider:network_type gre" or "--provider:network_type vxlan" can only be used for tenant networks? | 23:45 |
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| hoonetorg | i'm asking again and again, because someone at university wanted to tell me, that they use gre for provider networks in their current installation ??? | 23:54 |
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