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| loth | Does the current version of ironic work with neutron networking? | 00:20 |
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| ikeyman | hello! | 04:33 |
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| ikeyman | http://paste.openstack.org/show/465672/ | 04:34 |
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| jasonsb | ikeyman: you did a keystone discover ? | 04:40 |
| ikeyman | nope | 04:41 |
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| jasonsb | hmm | 04:42 |
| jasonsb | AUTH_URL formatted strange? | 04:42 |
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| ikeyman | jasonsb: debug output http://termbin.com/vym0 | 04:49 |
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| jasonsb | ikeyman: oh i see. its in nova and gets to keystone session auth stuff and blows up | 04:56 |
| jasonsb | ikeyman: is your [neutron] section of nova.conf formatted ok? | 04:57 |
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| SamYaple | jasonsb: o/ | 05:38 |
| SamYaple | jasonsb: played around with clusterer a bit more, i really like it | 05:38 |
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| jasonsb | SamYaple: oh do tell. i was supposed to be doing that and kolla but i got stuck on 3.14/ovs problems | 05:51 |
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| jasonsb | SamYaple: very soon though. almost there! | 05:51 |
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| SamYaple | nothing to really tell. it did it like it was suppose to cleanly | 05:51 |
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| SamYaple | it was a non-issue, the best kind of issue! | 05:51 |
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| jasonsb | SamYaple: nice. when it just works and doesn't explode ya gotta just sit back and enjoy | 05:52 |
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| jasonsb | SamYaple: did michael klishin get back to you? | 05:52 |
| jasonsb | i noticed he was giving a talk in tokyo | 05:52 |
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| SamYaple | i dont believe so, no | 05:53 |
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| SamYaple | let me check my email | 05:53 |
| jasonsb | hmmm | 05:53 |
| jasonsb | maybe i poke again | 05:53 |
| SamYaple | im really bad at emai | 05:53 |
| jasonsb | irc or it didnt' happen | 05:53 |
| SamYaple | indeed | 05:53 |
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| SamYaple | Oh, yea. Looks like the last thing you said was you'd let me chime in on some specifics and i promtly didnt do anythign further | 05:54 |
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| SamYaple | i failed to email yet again | 05:54 |
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| jasonsb | i thought rabbit people would attend irc | 05:55 |
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| jasonsb | i was hoping | 05:56 |
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| jasonsb | maybe still can make it happen | 05:56 |
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| SamYaple | im really unhappy with olso.messaging and multiple rabbitmq hosts :/ | 05:56 |
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| SamYaple | it just picks a random one | 05:57 |
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| jasonsb | it should pick master for that queue, no? | 05:58 |
| SamYaple | that would be ideal, si | 05:59 |
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| jasonsb | i wonder if we will see movement on that stuff. maybe rabbit heartbeat + cells comes first | 06:00 |
| jasonsb | i think going into kilo that was still weak | 06:00 |
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| jasonsb | i'm not at scale to care yet, but it would be a nice thing for operators | 06:00 |
| SamYaple | the autoheal stuff in rabbitmq does wonders | 06:01 |
| SamYaple | a lost message here and there, but never a downed cluster | 06:01 |
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| jasonsb | how do you mine lost messages? | 06:01 |
| SamYaple | they are kill | 06:01 |
| SamYaple | you dont get them back, downside of autoheal | 06:02 |
| jasonsb | i was looking at how to do that in a operationally compatible way | 06:02 |
| jasonsb | oh | 06:02 |
| jasonsb | what if you turn on firehose? | 06:02 |
| SamYaple | i dont think recovering lost messagins in openstack is practicle to be honest | 06:02 |
| jasonsb | maybe not recover. just detect | 06:02 |
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| SamYaple | oh that, well if the cluster splitbrains you definetely lost some messages | 06:02 |
| SamYaple | and you can detect that | 06:02 |
| SamYaple | im not sure about more dtail | 06:03 |
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| SamYaple | havent really thought about it to be honest | 06:03 |
| jasonsb | i was wondering in context of log analysis | 06:03 |
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| SamYaple | yea no its good thing to have, just hadn;t thought about it | 06:03 |
| jasonsb | it would be interesting to detect lost messages, unanswered rpc's etc | 06:04 |
| SamYaple | uptime comes first and that is mostly solved with autoheal from my experince | 06:04 |
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| SamYaple | idk like to have some metrics inot how many messages are being lost though | 06:04 |
| SamYaple | that would be nice | 06:04 |
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| jasonsb | this would a nice talk at the summit | 06:05 |
| SamYaple | heartbeat is in the oslo code for liberty it seems | 06:05 |
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| jasonsb | oh good. | 06:05 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py | 06:05 |
| jasonsb | i figured it was but hadn't looked yet | 06:05 |
| SamYaple | poking around | 06:05 |
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| SamYaple | i still need to take rabbitmq out of haproxy for kolla | 06:08 |
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| SamYaple | but that has impact on config upgrades | 06:08 |
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| bardhi | Hello, I am looking to activate load balancers on openstack kilo and i follow the guide http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/networking_config-agents.html step by step. I those configurations on both controller node and network node and when i restart the neutron agent in the openstack dashboard i get an alert where it says that it cannot pull network statistics and the network section does not work. When i check the logs i get lots of | 07:05 |
| bardhi | error messages http://pastebin.com/etPJbGyG I pasted the error messages in there if someone wants to check them out. Please if someone could help me and tell me what the issue might be it would be much appreciated | 07:05 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate is currently stuck, failing grenade upgrade tests due the release of oslo.utils 1.4.1 for Juno. | 08:00 | |
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| telnes | hello | 08:26 |
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| telnes | I try to trouble why a instance is not contactable (ping fail : ICMP host 10.1.101.37 unreachable [10.1.101.37 == floating ip]. I have an other instance who reply well | 08:29 |
| telnes | I do tcpdump on qrouter interface | 08:30 |
| telnes | wan interface reply unreachable, lan interface show no traffic | 08:30 |
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| tore_ | how exactly do I go about associating a "port" in neutron with a device (an instance, that is)? | 10:00 |
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| Billias | When I assign metadata on one of my flavors | 11:06 |
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| Billias | I cannot spawn any vm with an error: No valid host found | 11:06 |
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| Billias | i found it | 11:13 |
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| Billias | so the real question | 11:16 |
| Billias | Can I send some extra metadata to the instance, reachable by cloud-init? | 11:16 |
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| Sparco | If i will use per-tenant routers can the tenant router use vlan towards the VM's or can it just use another port? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_networking-routers-with-private-networks.html | 11:36 |
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| nd | Billias: Did you get any response for your query OR were you able to find a way out for what you were looking for? | 12:24 |
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| Billias | I got some response. | 12:54 |
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| Billias | but outside the chat. the second question, no | 12:54 |
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| larsks | Billias: what was the second question? | 12:59 |
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| Billias | is it possible to set some metadata parameters like Environment | 13:00 |
| Billias | which can be used by the VMs? | 13:00 |
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| larsks | Sure. One option is to simply pass in the metadata as part of your --user-data blob (e.g., have a shell script or cloud-config write-file directive that populates a file on disk with the requisite information). Also, metadata that you add with --meta (nova boot --meta ...) is available via the openstack metadata service. | 13:03 |
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| larsks | Billias: does that help at all? | 13:05 |
| Billias | yeap it helps | 13:05 |
| Billias | can these nova-boot meta | 13:06 |
| Billias | be configured / appended by horizon | 13:06 |
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| Billias | or even statically per Project (tenant) | 13:06 |
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| larsks | Billias: I don't think horizon has the ability to set metadata keys. You can certainly use it to pass user-data to your instances. I don't think there's a way to set per-tenant defaults. | 13:09 |
| Billias | ok :) thnx for that info! | 13:09 |
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| larsks | tore_: you can use 'nova interface-attach --port-id <port-id> ...' | 13:10 |
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| nd | larsks: I am trying to get my head around the nova schedulers and filters. The scheduler_default_filters in nova.conf can be set with comma separated multiple filter names | 13:13 |
| nd | larsks: How does nova actually consider these filters? I mean - is it and , is it or, is it sequential as listed in the paramater? | 13:14 |
| larsks | nd: that's not something I've worked with very much. But I imagine that it is sequential. You should be able to determine that based on the logs in the nova-scheduler.log file, I think. | 13:14 |
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| nd | larsks: sure, np, but thnks for still replying. I will try to find out as much I can understand :) | 13:15 |
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| nd | Has anyone currently on the chat deployed Openstack in Production? I am aware people have, but anyone on the chat at the moment? | 13:19 |
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| nd | Basically one thing I am trying to figure out is for Compute nodes if I decide to use LVM - should I be considering local disks or backed by actual storage array? | 13:20 |
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| wN | nd: what are your concerns? | 13:21 |
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| wN | usually i see actual storage arrays using the cinder driver for those storage arrays | 13:22 |
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| nd | wN: ok, so if using Storage array - better to directly interface with Storage array with necessary drivers, instead of via LVM | 13:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nd: if you want redundancy of any sort, you wont use the lvm driver | 13:23 |
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| wN | nd: the storage array drivers are "smarter". they can work directly with the api onyour array | 13:24 |
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| wN | but you *could* just present the storage to LVM and use that volume group. thats what i do here for my crappy desktop setup :P | 13:25 |
| nd | Sam-I-Am: agreed. But then say if the cinder-volume node which is interfacing with the storage array back-end fails, is there a way to say deploy a new cinder volume node (in its place) and make the volumes available to the nova nodes again? | 13:25 |
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| mehdi___ | hi | 13:26 |
| wN | nd: if the cinder node fails? | 13:26 |
| wN | mehdi: hi | 13:26 |
| nd | wN: yes for maybe non prod setup, LVM is most economical. But for Prod - considering Performance and Availability, storage array could be right choice, if only there is a method to recover from a cinder volume node fails | 13:26 |
| mehdi___ | please a have a error in my openstack when i want to launch instance from dashborad | 13:26 |
| wN | if you wer using lvm and your cinder node failed you'd have the same problem | 13:27 |
| nd | wN: when I say cinder volume node fails - what I mean is - the cinder volume node actually having the LVM or interfacing with the storage array back-end | 13:27 |
| wN | ah yes. i understand. i *think* that if the cinder node was to fail, the computes will still have access to your storage array. | 13:27 |
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| wN | nd: what kind of array do you have? | 13:27 |
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| nd | I dont have rt now. I am working on a design right now. so want to consider the right choices | 13:28 |
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| nd | wN: choices I am thinking are possiblt EMC VNX, or even maybe NetApp | 13:29 |
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| bardhi | Hello. I want to activate lbaas plugin oon openstack but everytime i do that network fails to start. I install the plugin exctly as shown in the official documentation but i cant get it to work. Has anyone tried to install the lbaas plugin and if so could you give me direction on how to do it? | 13:29 |
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| wN | nd: i think both of those array present hte storage directly to the comptue nodes, so if your cinder node failed your compute nodes would not go down. using LVM and having the lvm node go down would be like losing your storage array | 13:31 |
| mehdi___ | "hi please i have a error in my openstack when i want to launch a instance a have a error no valid host was found | 13:31 |
| wN | mehdi: what does the nova-compute.log say? | 13:31 |
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| mehdi___ | the openstack is connect to my esxi | 13:31 |
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| georgem1 | nd: you should ask the storage vendor for the recommended solution, if they have a driver for cinder then they probably also provide support; I'm using this approach (https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/55268/ha-recovering-from-cinder-node-loss-with-ceph-backend/) but my backend is Ceph; it should work with enterprise arrays if they allow access to same LUN from multiple clients, but I would test this before going live… | 13:32 |
| mehdi___ | please any help | 13:32 |
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| nd | wN: and Sam-I-Am: ok, great - thats a very good insight - I had not thought / realised it would happen that way. So - for higher availability - better to use direct storage array back-end - where cinder volume node will come into picture only during provisioning and deleting volume. but otherwise for normal operations the nova compute node can directly interact with the volumes on back end storage | 13:33 |
| jolsen | EMC just came out with reference architectures for VNX, XtremIO, and ScaleIO for MOS, Ubuntu OS, and Red Hat based on Juno. I believe they are working on Kilo RA's for those same arrays with those distros as well | 13:33 |
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| wN | with HA you never want anything to be a single point of failure | 13:33 |
| nd | georgem1: thanks for the input. I will look into the link you have suggested. | 13:33 |
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| nd | georgem1: are you using the ceph solution for production? | 13:36 |
| sc | where can I find a schema description for mysql DB used in OpenStack? I need to change all names of hosts in the cloud. TIA | 13:36 |
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| georgem1 | nd: sort of | 13:37 |
| nd | georgem1: ok. Whats your experience so far with ceph in your setup? any gotchas to look for? | 13:38 |
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| georgem1 | nd: you can write a book about ceph, it's a complex system on its own | 13:39 |
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| georgem1 | nd: actually this is a good book about Ceph: http://www.amazon.ca/Learning-Ceph-Karan-Singh/dp/1783985623 | 13:40 |
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| larsks | sc: probably easiest just to connect to the database and run "show tables" and "show fields from <table>". | 13:40 |
| * IcePic is reading that right now | 13:40 | |
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| IcePic | I built a lab-ceph first of course, to make sure you go backwards into any project | 13:41 |
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| nd | georgem1: thnks. I went through the link you mentioned for cinder volume HA. So basically its says use same hostname for multiple cinder volume nodes and keep only one active. Have you tested this yourself anytime? | 13:43 |
| nd | georgem1: anyway I will test it also, but just wanted to know | 13:44 |
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| nd | sc: I am not sure if all hostnames will be stored in a single / particular table - I am *guessing* that based on difference services it might be in different tables (respective tables for the services) | 13:48 |
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| georgem1 | nd: I have and in fact I have multiple cinder-volumes running in the same time with no issues so far, although this bug seems to say cinder-volume active/active is a non-supported config (https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1322190) | 13:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1322190 in Cinder "Volumes can't be managed (eg. attached) if the cinder-volume host which created them first becomes unavailable" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:51 |
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| mehdi___ | hi please i have a error in my openstack when i want to launch a instance a have a error no valid host was found | 13:51 |
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| jolsen | mehdi___: are you using DevStack or something? I used to receive that when I didn't have enough resources on my laptop for my DevStack install | 13:52 |
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| sc | nd: OK, this is what I was doubting. So I need to go service by service and look into the repos to get the SQL schema, I guess | 13:55 |
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| nd | sc: like I said, I am *guessing* - but seems more likely logically. Though I have not checked the database schemas for the reply. | 13:56 |
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| mehdi22 | hi | 13:57 |
| mehdi22 | please i have a error in my openstack | 13:57 |
| mehdi22 | when i want to launch a instance | 13:57 |
| mehdi22 | a have a error no valid host was found | 13:57 |
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| mehdi22 | the openstack is connectto esxi vmware | 13:57 |
| wN | mehdi: that means that nova cant find a place to run that instance | 13:57 |
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| wN | mehdi: you'll need to check the scheduler logs and the compute logs. i dont have familiarity with the esxi part | 13:58 |
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| mehdi22 | in the schedulat log a have TooManyExternalNetworks: More than one external network exists\n'] | 13:58 |
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| mehdi22 | and i want to launch a instance in the esxi | 14:00 |
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| wN | mehdi: how many external networks do you have? | 14:00 |
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| mehdi22 | one external | 14:01 |
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| mehdi22 | in the dashboard of the openstack a have the esxi information | 14:02 |
| mehdi22 | but when i want to launch a instance a have error | 14:02 |
| wN | okay, well this says you have more than one | 14:02 |
| mehdi22 | no valid host was found | 14:02 |
| wN | mehdi: https://www.rdoproject.org/forum/discussion/594/multiple-networks/p1 | 14:03 |
| mehdi22 | before the error a have two external netwprk but now a have one external | 14:03 |
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| telnes1 | hello, any url to troubleshoot vnc keymap issue | 14:04 |
| mehdi22 | in the vcenter it'ws recommeded to have any configuration ?? | 14:05 |
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| telnes1 | I get a bad keymap and it is very boring | 14:05 |
| mehdi22 | for the vlan or port | 14:05 |
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| mehdi22 | any idea to resolve this probleme | 14:07 |
| mehdi22 | and create instance in the vcenter from the juno openstack dashboard | 14:08 |
| MrJamesK | Is it possible for flavors to define the volume_type to use for cinder or is it better to do this via host aggregates? Just trying to make it easy to select SSD vs SAS for storage deployment. | 14:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's also AZs | 14:12 |
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| MrJamesK | Sam-I-Am: Ya the two storage types exist in the same AZ | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | then you cant use that feature :) | 14:13 |
| mehdi22 | how to resolve problem create instnce from dashborad to esxi the error is no valid host was found | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: you still exist? | 14:13 |
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| MrJamesK | Sam-I-Am: I thought you could create separate host aggregates inside of the same AZ | 14:14 |
| mehdi22 | yes | 14:14 |
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| MrJamesK | So if that is the case then I should be able to create multiple host aggregates that fall inside of the same AZ, one for SSD and one for SAS | 14:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think that might work | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i've just used the volume type | 14:17 |
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| MrJamesK | Sam-I-Am: Have you created flavors that define the volume type? | 14:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i have not | 14:20 |
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| nd | MrJamesK: I believe in the flavor whatever you define relates only to selection of nova nodes | 14:21 |
| nd | MrJamesK: I doubt if it selects anything to do with cinder nodes, let aside storage types defined. | 14:22 |
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| nd | MrJamesK: so basically what I am saying is if you have different nova-compute nodes each having different type of disk for instance stores, then you would use the aggregate to select the appropriate nova node by scheduler | 14:23 |
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| MrJamesK | nd: That makes sense. So host aggregates are probably the only way to go about this then. | 14:23 |
| MrJamesK | nd: But now I'm second guessing if host aggregates would even work, since those are nova focused as well. | 14:24 |
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| nd | sc: are you still there? | 14:27 |
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| rmart04 | Afternoon guys, I am really struggling getting my head around this >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/InstanceResourceQuota Does this not work anymore? If I set these keys, I fail to get a hypervisor, I've been trying to add hypervisors to a host aggregate and attach equivelent metadata, but maybe I am barking up the wrong tree? | 14:34 |
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| georgem1 | MrJamesK: what are you trying exactly to do? do you want to boot from volume and choose the type of volume (ssd/sata) based on the instance's flavor type? | 14:41 |
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| evilrob | Sam-I-Am: yeah. still around. I've been fighting elasticsearch. Finally convinced folks that we can bring up data nodes in OS | 14:42 |
| sc | nd: yes | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | woo | 14:42 |
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| evilrob | need another compute node for another data node. the whole anti-affinity thing | 14:43 |
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| evilrob | but 9 nodes is better than 5 | 14:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ceph stuff? | 14:46 |
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| evilrob | nah. want another ES data node, would rather keep anti-affinity so I need another OS compute node. ceph is chugging along even though they took my 3rd node away to be a DB server for test. | 14:47 |
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| evilrob | still getting GB/s speeds on a cinder volume backed by ceph, so nobody is complaining | 14:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats good | 14:56 |
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| evilrob | it's kind of funny actually. the ceph backed cinder volumes in an OS VM are about 50% faster on write than physical disk | 14:58 |
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| evilrob | they made the mistake of using zfs when they wanted speed | 14:58 |
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| SamYaple | evilrob: you bite your tounge! :D | 15:04 |
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| SamYaple | zfs is plenty fast (even zfs on linux) when setup correctly | 15:04 |
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| evilrob | entirely likely that the folks that built the datacenter I inherited (and have threatened many times to dispose of with thermite) didn't set it up "correctly" | 15:05 |
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| evilrob | they didn't do much else correctly either | 15:06 |
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| SamYaple | probably working at my last job right? | 15:06 |
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| kindjal | Is there a document somewhere that describes how to set up keystone API v3 with per-domain config, and subsequently what environment variables must be set to make openstackclient and keystoneclient work? | 15:09 |
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| kindjal | I find a never ending list of errors and non-zero return codes, despite having a policy.json that returns true for everything. | 15:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | keystoneclient will never work with v3 | 15:09 |
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| kindjal | Sam-I-Am: Ok. So am I right then that as soon as I turn on “domain support” that I must use v3, and that I then must use openstackclient? | 15:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yup | 15:13 |
| kindjal | Then how can I know what env vars to set to make ostackclient happy? | 15:13 |
| kindjal | I want to bootstrap with an auth token to create an “admin” user on the Default domain... | 15:14 |
| kindjal | then act as that user to do the rest. | 15:14 |
| kindjal | but as soon as I switch to the admin user, I have no permission to do anything. | 15:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you using v3? | 15:14 |
| kindjal | yes | 15:14 |
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| tenshi | Hello everyone, just wanted to know if someone is using windows images and can share example of cloud init for windows. (would be much appreciated) or if you have any exeperience with windows and cloud init. Thank you in advance. | 15:16 |
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| evilrob | so using a security group based rule (allowing all traffic from other instances in the same secgroup) going to default block other traffic not using secgroups? | 15:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: all instances should be using a secgroup of some sort | 15:17 |
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| chiru | @tenshi are you using pre-built windows cloud images? | 15:19 |
| evilrob | right. my question is if I have one rule that allows traffic from all hosts in that group, and another rule that allows traffic from anywhere to port 443 (for instance), will that second rule still be effective outside the group? | 15:19 |
| tenshi | @chiru We ve done our images and installed cloudinitbase on it | 15:20 |
| evilrob | This is an icehouse cluster I believe. I didn't set this one up. | 15:20 |
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| tenshi | @chiru why ? | 15:22 |
| evilrob | Sam-I-Am: so these rules and groups: https://paste.ee/p/wfJ8V should allow inbound traffic on port 443 from anywhere | 15:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: i think it should | 15:24 |
| evilrob | yeah. that's what I thought. I'm arguing with support here now. they nmap'd my VM and said nothing is listening on 443. I replied with my own nmap output from within the secgroup showing it was. | 15:24 |
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| mehdi22 | hi please a have a probleme when a want to launch a instance from the juno dashboard | 15:30 |
| mehdi22 | a have a erro no valid host was found | 15:30 |
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| mehdi22 | and in the nova-neutron logs a have error mor external TooManyExternalNetworks: More than one external network exists | 15:31 |
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| evilrob | mehdi22: it sounds like you're trying to start a node with multiple ext networks attached and you don't have any compute nodes with those networks configured. | 15:36 |
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| kindjal | What does it mean that in glance, api version 2 shows a non empty list of images, but version 1 list is empty? | 15:37 |
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| chiru | I am using a multinode openstack juno. Did anyone happen to customize the libvirt.xml. If so, can you share your experience. The xml file is getting overwritten by nova everytime I reboot. | 15:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | chiru: you should not be touching that file manually | 15:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | nova will always overwrite it | 15:56 |
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| chiru | Sam-I-Am: So how can I customize it. Basically I want to introduce some boot delay. So I can get the instances into pxe or single user mode. | 15:57 |
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| kindjal | libvirt xml is created in nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py and its configuration classes are defined in nova/virt/libvirt/config.py | 15:57 |
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| chiru | kindjal: I know that and so was wondering how can I customize the VM startup. | 15:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats about it. pxe booting does not sound very cloudy. | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats why you have images | 16:00 |
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| kindjal | https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you have to go into the code to modify something, thats a pretty good clue that you should not be doing it | 16:01 |
| kindjal | bootmenu -> timeout | 16:01 |
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| chiru | kindjal: Where do I modify the bootmenu -> timeout ? | 16:03 |
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| georgem11 | kindjal: before you upload the image into glance, you could change the grub boot delay to enough time to allow you to go the Dashbard VNC console of the newly started instance | 16:03 |
| chiru | Sam-I-Am: I just wanted some boot delay ( sometimes want to get into single user mode ) | 16:04 |
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| kindjal | chiru: bootmenu would live inside the <os> element... | 16:05 |
| blizzow | I have 15 Ubuntu based KVM hypervisors. None of them use shared storage. The VMs on my hypervisors use qcow2 files for the base OS, and attach an LVM for disk. I have openstack installed on it's own test machine. What do I need to install on the hypervisors to be seen in my openstack console? nova, cinder, ??? | 16:05 |
| georgem11 | chiru: http://kmadac.github.io/posts/Single-user-mode-in-openstack-instance/ | 16:05 |
| wN | only nova is required on the compute | 16:05 |
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| chiru | kindjal: in my case sometimes user doesn’t have access to the VM. | 16:06 |
| kindjal | chiru: I’m not sure if this is the right solution or not, but in config.py there’s a _format_os method... | 16:06 |
| kindjal | that writes the <“os”> part of the DOM... | 16:06 |
| nd | Hi. Has anyone played around with schedulers and filters in nova? | 16:07 |
| kindjal | you could add bootmenu in there. | 16:07 |
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| kindjal | not sure it’s a good idea or not | 16:07 |
| chiru | kindhal: thank you let me check on it. | 16:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | all of this sounds terrible :/ | 16:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack is not vmware | 16:07 |
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| evilrob | Sam-I-Am: you mean I shouldn't run a windows instance for doing powerpoint conversions? | 16:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | evilrob: stop trolling :) | 16:09 |
| blizzow | wN: I'm assuming that was for me. Should a storage module (cinder or swift) be deployed on my hypervisors since I'm not using shared storage? | 16:10 |
| evilrob | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Not_f73584_1397644.jpg | 16:10 |
| wN | blizzow: you're using hte iscsilvm driver? | 16:10 |
| wN | nova on the compute will connect to the iscsi target presented by cinder from the controller | 16:11 |
| blizzow | wN: I'm still trying to figure openstack out. In cinder I have just the lvm driver configured. | 16:11 |
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| wN | blizzow: you also need to set iscsi_helper | 16:12 |
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| wN | blizzow: http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/lvm-volume-driver.html | 16:13 |
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| wN | "This driver supports different transport protocols to attach volumes, currently iSCSI and iSER." | 16:13 |
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| wN | im not sure how to configure it on ubuntu, but on centos i have: | 16:13 |
| wN | iscsi_helper=lioadm | 16:14 |
| wN | iscsi_protocol=iscsi | 16:14 |
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| wN | oh, and iscsi_ip_address=192.168.1.200 (which is the ip of my controller) | 16:14 |
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| nd | wN: and blizzow: In Ubuntu I have iscsi_helper = tgtadm in cinder.conf | 16:17 |
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| nd | wN: and blizzow: and on the cinder node had to install iscsitarget and iscsitarget-dkms packages and on nova node I believe install open-iscsi | 16:19 |
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| blizzow | Since I'm trying to keep a VM's disks (both qcow and LVM) local to the hypervisor it is running on, I'm confused why I would need iscsi. | 16:20 |
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| wN | blizzow: i dont think openstack (and these drives specifically) were made with that idea in mind. let me see | 16:22 |
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| MrJamesK | blizzow: I've been down that path and there is no local LVM driver available today | 16:23 |
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| MrJamesK | You can run iscsi locally on the compute node but I found the overhead of the iSCSI daemon was quite the PITA | 16:24 |
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| blizzow | MrJamesK: hrm, seems like it would be a common need. I'm assuming people want to squeeze disk performance out of their VMs and that means a local disk store on each hypervisor. | 16:26 |
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| MrJamesK | blizzow: I've been told it is a VERY common request. | 16:26 |
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| MrJamesK | You can use the BlockStorage driver, but that requires you to prepare volumes ahead of time | 16:27 |
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| blizzow | and install cinder on all my hypervisors? | 16:27 |
| MrJamesK | yes | 16:27 |
| wN | blizzow: here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BlockDeviceDriver | 16:28 |
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| wN | MrJamesK: you beat me to it | 16:28 |
| wN | hehe | 16:28 |
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| MrJamesK | blizzow: it is certainly less than optimal | 16:28 |
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| wN | blizzow: if you use local storage on the computes, you lose functionality like evacuation and migration | 16:31 |
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| blizzow | brutal. My management switch and NICs are only 1GbE so I think moving to iSCSI for storage would hurt really bad. | 16:32 |
| wN | blizzow: you could just use ephemeral storage, which i believe is all local to the compute | 16:33 |
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| MrJamesK | blizzow: What kind of storage do you have on your storage nodes? If you can dedicate a couple (or four) 1Gbps NICs to an LACP bond your storage throughput shouldn't be too bad | 16:36 |
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| blizzow | MrJamesK: I don't use shared storage at all. All of my VMs use disks that are local to the hypervisor. My engineering dept. Is all about disk access/latency. EG: Each hypervisor is it's own storage node. | 16:38 |
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| wN | you can run cinder on each compute node with the lvm iscsi driver | 16:38 |
| wN | you could probably setup cinder storage types to specify which node the storage was going to be created on | 16:39 |
| blizzow | Currently, if I need to live migrate a machine, I create the same qcow file and logical volumes on the destination hypervisor then use: virsh migrate --live --copy-storage-all VMname destinationhypervisor | 16:39 |
| wN | O_O | 16:39 |
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| wN | blizzow: openstack has an option for block storage migration if you're booting from image. i assume htat moves all ephemeral storage. you should look into that | 16:40 |
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| blizzow | wN, MrJamesK: Thanks, I guess it looks like I get nova and cinder on all my hypervisors. Given my environment are there any other modules you think I'd need on my hypervisors? | 16:48 |
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| wN | blizzow: usually only nova is required on the compute, but if you want cinder nodes on yoru compute then you need. | 16:49 |
| wN | cinder | 16:49 |
| blizzow | (I'm not sure what swift is about.) | 16:49 |
| wN | if you want glance images on your compute nodes you'll need glance on there too | 16:49 |
| wN | blizzow: dont open that door! | 16:49 |
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| blizzow | haha. I'll just leave the plus sign next to swift in the documentation alone then. | 16:50 |
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| blizzow | Creating VMs doesn't copy the image from the glance server to the hypervisor? | 16:51 |
| blizzow | Do I need to install neutron on all my hypervisors because they use local bridging too? | 16:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | local bridging? | 16:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | compute nodes always need at least the l2 agent | 16:53 |
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| evilrob | does the order in which secgroups are added to an instance matter? (I didn't think so) | 17:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's probably some way to handle conflicting rules | 17:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | or more specific rules | 17:01 |
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| evilrob | I've got a different VM with a different secgroup identical to my one that allows 443 and it works. only difference is order of the rules in the "edit security groups" list | 17:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is there a rule in the other secgroup that would prevent access to 443? | 17:06 |
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| evilrob | no... this is not my problem. I've now got two VMs with the same set of secgroups. one I can get to 443 on, one I can't. | 17:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | check the ordering of rules in iptables | 17:06 |
| evilrob | iptables is blank on both | 17:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you looking on the compute node? | 17:07 |
| evilrob | on both VMs. I'm a client to this cluster. | 17:07 |
| evilrob | I don't have that access | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | they are applied on the host | 17:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does switching the order make it work? | 17:07 |
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| evilrob | no. removed one, saved it, readded, it goes back to the same position. | 17:08 |
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| evilrob | and doesn't make a functional difference | 17:08 |
| georgem11 | evilrob: sometimes the neutron agent gets out of sync.. | 17:08 |
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| evilrob | true. I'll suggest a restart in the ticket I have with them | 17:09 |
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| georgem11 | evilrob: you're sure the traffic doesn't make it to the VM, tcpdump is empty? | 17:10 |
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| evilrob | georgem11: yup. not a peep | 17:11 |
| georgem11 | then starting a new instance with the same sec group would be the fastest way to see if it's the compute node broken or something else | 17:11 |
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| evilrob | at this point, I'm going to let support deal with it. I'm going to point my devs at the other floating IP (for the functioning test box) and leave the broken one up for the internal support crew to fix. | 17:19 |
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| su_zhang | which irc clients are you guys using? | 17:20 |
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| * evilrob is using limechat connected to a znc bouncer | 17:21 | |
| su_zhang | I am using limechat. It seems good to me. Not sure if there are better opts | 17:21 |
| su_zhang | what do you mean by znc bouncer? | 17:21 |
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| su_zhang | It seems like irc does not save logs. This setting is so bad | 17:22 |
| su_zhang | IRC should not like snapchat. | 17:22 |
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| su_zhang | technical discussion is useful in the long run. | 17:23 |
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| evilrob | http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC | 17:26 |
| su_zhang | thanks for sharing | 17:27 |
| evilrob | I run it on a cloud box I have. it keeps me connected and logs chats for me | 17:27 |
| su_zhang | this looks good to me | 17:27 |
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| su_zhang | sounds good | 17:27 |
| su_zhang | so I will have to own a cloud box, right? | 17:28 |
| su_zhang | or it comes with znc by default? | 17:29 |
| evilrob | you have to run it somewhere. | 17:29 |
| evilrob | I know someone who runs it on a linux box in their house. There's also #znc here | 17:29 |
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| jmlowe1 | I'm having some trouble with nova-api interacting with glance, it seems that I can't get it to use ssl when communicating with glance. Any hints? | 17:34 |
| su_zhang | so finally I understood the value of slack... | 17:34 |
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| mragupat | sudrin nova boot, we attach a file through config Drive. Is it possible to clone the file ? | 17:39 |
| mragupat | during nova boot, we attach a file through config Drive. Is it possible to clone the file ? | 17:40 |
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| jmlowe1 | I have https endpoints in keystone, I have protocol=https in the glance section of nova.conf, as far as I can tell nova-api is ignoring this configuration directive | 17:41 |
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| MrJamesK | If I have a flavor defined with meta data like, {"aggregate_instance_extra_specs:storage": "SSD"}, and that matches meta data on an aggregate like ,'storage=SSD', shouldn't nova know to use the cinder node in that AZ? | 17:56 |
| MrJamesK | Right now the compute node doesn't even try to ask for storage from cinder. | 17:57 |
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| MrJamesK | VolumeNotCreated: Volume 613a3430-140f-4f62-ac64-3f0cdee9deff did not finish being created even after we waited 0 seconds or 1 attempts. And its status is error. | 17:58 |
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| MrJamesK | Looks like cinder doesn't think there are any hosts to talk to ... for some odd reason.. No weighed hosts found for volume with properties: {} | 18:08 |
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| jmlowe1 | Can somebody look at nova/image/glance.py in get_api_servers() shouldn't there be some deference to CONF.glance.protocol ? | 18:24 |
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| chiru | Does anyone have good cloud certification including training in “cloud Architect” | 19:44 |
| chiru | recommendations | 19:45 |
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| georgem11 | chiru: I heard Mirantis has good Openstack training, but you don't become a cloud architect by taking training classes | 19:54 |
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| wN | red hat has the cl210, but its just installation and general usage from the gui | 19:55 |
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| chiru | I have pretty decent experience in cloud technologies now wanted to learn on advanced levels of architecting. | 19:58 |
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| georgem11 | chiru: build a few decent sized environments and make them HA, tune them, add monitoring, centralized logging and you'll learn enough in the process to pass most job interviews | 20:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | its sort of an acquired thing through experience | 20:00 |
| georgem11 | chiru: this guide is a good starting point http://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/content/ | 20:01 |
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| larsks | jmlowe1: I guess that would make sense, although actually you're supposed to explicitly list the api servers with https:// in your config file. The hardcoded 'http' is only used when you haven't listed URLs. | 20:06 |
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| jmlowe1 | larsks: turns out my problem was actually with python-glanceclient 0.16, it chokes on ssl up to 0.18 apparently, get rid of the ap_servers and you wind up with a different error | 20:08 |
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| su_zhang | is there a good way to obtain the map between server-group and availability zone through nova API? | 22:08 |
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| skullone | i can get a flavor that has "ssd=true" to only go to the SSD hosts, but non-ssd flavors can also go there | 22:19 |
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| skullone | would i add ss=false to those flavors? | 22:19 |
| skullone | ssd=false, rather | 22:19 |
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| skullone | actually just tested that... seems exactly what im supposed to do :p | 22:27 |
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| NK__ | i have issue " /usr/share/openstack-dashboard" directory is not created | 23:26 |
| NK__ | my project involves horizon as the requirements and i dont see openstack dashboard being installed. Horizon is installed as part of the dependency and horizon-2014.1.1.tar is picked locally. Can anyone tell is there anything i will have to do more | 23:27 |
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