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adun153Sam-I-Am: Here I am again00:03
adun153So I basicallly re-installed Neutron, thinking that I had botched the  DB or something.00:03
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adun153most probably I did, because Neutron shows no errors right now.00:05
adun153But  my problem is, my Network node still has no br-tun00:05
adun153I still don't know why!00:05
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adun153So my instances spawning on my compute node still cannot ping their router and ext-net00:06
adun153Does anybody have any ideas or things they want me to help diagnose?00:06
adun153This is a 2-node setup, a combined network/controller, and a compute node.00:06
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lj1102adun153: when I had onfigured everything I forgot to setup the firewall for the instances making them unreachable00:14
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lj1102setup in terms of properly configuring it00:15
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adun153lj1102: This is the instances not being able to just even ping their network's gateway.00:17
adun153I'm using GRE tunnels, and for some reason, my controller/network node doesn't have br-tun00:18
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adun153I mean, it doesn't make the br-tun interface for some reason :(00:18
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adun153The compute node does, though.00:19
lj1102yes it was, but I'm a total network newb, it's a wonder i somehow managed to integrate it into my network :/00:19
adun153So for some reason, GRE tunnel interfaces are not going up for my network node.00:19
adun153:(00:20
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RageLtMandoes anyone know why Fuel would have installed ZFS-fuse on my compute nodes?00:23
RageLtManOpenZFS has been around awhile now...00:23
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Sam-I-Amadun153: is this using distro packages?00:24
adun153Ubuntu 14.0400:24
adun153yes00:24
adun153Sam-I-Am: Kilo00:24
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Sam-I-Amadun153: paste all of your neutron confs somewhere00:27
adun153Will do00:27
Sam-I-Amadun153: also curious about the output of 'dpkg -l | grep neutron'00:27
adun153Was about to suggest that00:27
adun153Just cleaning out all of the comment lines from the distro etc packages :p00:27
ryandahpmorning all, is it possible to ping instance from my host computer? or from control-compute vm? because i want build web server on instance, and all device in my lan can access it. i build openstack with devstack. thanks all :)00:27
adun153I mean all the comment lines from the etc conf files from the  distro packages00:28
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Sam-I-Amadun153: yeah, i just need to see whats active00:28
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adun153Sam-I-Am: Here00:35
adun153Controller/Network00:35
adun153/etc/neutron/neutron.conf: http://pastebin.com/jTTNH3j700:35
adun153/etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini: http://pastebin.com/470XFP8c00:35
adun153Compute00:35
adun153/etc/neutron/neutron.conf: http://pastebin.com/NNqbPGE700:35
adun153/etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini: http://pastebin.com/DrRvJ48E00:35
Sam-I-Amin ml2_conf.ini, its "tunnel_types" not "tunnel_type"00:36
Sam-I-Amplus "enable_tunneling" is defunct and probably just ignored00:37
adun153 'dpkg -l | grep neutron': http://pastebin.com/U7xDVQ4E00:37
Sam-I-Ami bet thats your problem00:37
Sam-I-Am(on the controller node)00:37
adun153made the change00:38
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adun153what's the daemon to restart?00:38
Sam-I-Amneutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent00:38
adun153neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent?00:38
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adun153That did it! A br-tun was created on the controller00:39
Sam-I-Amyay00:39
adun153Thanks! Will do some tests to verify :D00:39
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adun153Sometimes, I've been plugging away at something too long, and it's hard to see small things like that. T_T00:40
adun153Thanks for the 2nd set of eyes.00:40
SessoAnyone know how to setup an SSL that is signed in place of the default SSL in Kilo?00:40
Sam-I-Amand openstack doesnt really tell you when config options are wrong00:40
adun153Sam-I-Am: That, too. That part is so frustrating.00:40
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adun153Sesso: Are you doing a "plain" setup?00:41
ryandahp morning all, is it possible to ping instance from my host computer? or from control-compute vm? because i want build web server on instance, and all device in my lan can access it. i build openstack with devstack. thanks all :) my vm instance was able ping to the internet. but i can't ping from my host and from control and compute vm00:41
adun153i.e. just following the docs?00:41
SessoI did the fuel deployment. It seems different than what the docs say.00:42
Sam-I-Amryandahp: did you add security group rules to allow ping and ssh?00:42
adun153ryandahp: It is possible, but how is your networking for the VMs and nodes setup?00:42
Sam-I-Amplus your vm may need a floating ip depending on your deployment00:42
SessoI found some certs but they are not the same as what comes up for horizon.00:42
adun153Sesso: I don't have any experience with Fuel, but for me, I just changed some options in Apache (where my Horizon is running)00:43
Sam-I-AmSesso: fuel probably has some magic way to inject things like that00:43
Sessothere is a horizon conf in the enabled-sites dir but it doesnt say anything about port 44300:43
Sam-I-Amyou'd have to check the fuel docs00:43
Sam-I-Amotherwise for horizon its just straight apache00:43
Sam-I-Amssl'ing other services is a bit different00:44
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SessoFuel docs dont say anything about horizon except for version 6.1 It seems all different than 7.00:44
SessoI may have to contact their support or something lol00:45
Sam-I-Amproblem with deployment mechanisms is you can do stuff manually, but if you run the tool again, it might overwrite your settings00:45
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adun153Sesso: Check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default-ssl.conf, that's where my SSL stuff are located. Maybe it's the same for you?00:45
Sessonah. only 05-keystone_wsgi_admin.conf  05-keystone_wsgi_main.conf  25-apache_api_proxy.conf  horizon_vhost.conf  rgw.conf00:45
Sessohorizon vhost only has port 80 vhost.00:46
adun153Curious: How do Fuel deployments work? Do you need to install servers with an OS first, then direct them to Fuel, or does it work as a PXE/DHCP/TFTP install server?00:46
adun153Sesso: But SSL is definitely working, right?00:46
Sessoit uses PXE.00:46
adun153Hmm00:46
Sessoyes works with a default cert00:46
Sessothats why im confused lol00:47
Sam-I-Amadun153: fuel tries to do All the Things00:47
adun153Sesso: So, do you get a choice of what distro to install?00:47
Sam-I-Am"tries"00:47
Sessonot with 7.0, its only ubuntu00:47
adun153Sam-I-Am: I see, so it's kinda like the Debian  of distros, "the General Purpose OpenStack Installer"00:47
adun153:D00:47
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Sam-I-Amehh00:47
adun153"trues"00:48
adun153*"tries"00:48
SessoIt works great, just toe openstack docs dont always match hah00:48
Sam-I-AmSesso: i would hope there's someplace to shove certs before you deploy00:48
adun153Sesso: How about try to grep your whole /etc/apache2/ for any mention of 443?00:48
SessoThere should be a cert somewhere in the system00:48
adun153See what comes up00:48
Sam-I-Amor maybe it lets you hand-configure things and it wont overwrite them00:48
adun153Sam-I-Am: Maybe it's a deploy-and-forget thing.00:49
ryandahpadun153: Sam-I-Am: this is the topology  http://imagebin.ca/v/2JWfrP1HrWV7 i follow from the odl summit00:49
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Sessothat is it00:49
adun153I'm very curious about Fuel, I plan on trying it out after I'm finished with this current deployment00:49
Sessojust etc/apache2/sites-enabled/25-apache_api_proxy.conf:00:49
Sam-I-Amadun153: i'd recommend openstack-ansible00:49
Sam-I-Amryandahp: does your instance have an ip on the same network as one of your nodes?00:50
adun153Sesso: Does it look like it's it?00:50
Sessono00:50
Sessoits for vhost:888800:51
Sam-I-AmSesso: there is a fuel channel here that might know more... perhaps a mailing list00:51
SessoIll have to see if there is a mailing list. fuel is pretty dead.00:51
adun153Sesso: try "netstat -anp | grep 443", see who is listening on 44300:52
adun153Sesso: Maybe not apache :p00:52
adun153Just on the off-chance.00:52
SessoI tried to deploy with my valid cert and it failed deployment. Thats why I did the self signed.00:52
Sessokeystone and python00:52
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adun153Looks like Horizon is running under Apache.00:53
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Sessothats what I thought00:53
adun153try /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py, does it mention anything about certs or SSL at all?00:53
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Sessoyes, it has that one line #OPENSTACK_SSL_CACERT = '/etc/apache2/ssl/cacert.pem'00:54
adun153Sam-I-Am: Do you have experience with openstack-ansible?00:54
Sessoyes, it has that one line #OPENSTACK_SSL_CACERT = 'etc/apache2/ssl/cacert.pem'00:54
Sessoyes, it has that one line #OPENSTACK_SSL_CACERT = etc/apache2/ssl/cacert.pem00:54
Sessooops00:54
adun153Sesso: But it's commented out... hmm.00:54
SessoI commented it out because it didnt change anything.00:55
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Sam-I-Amadun153: i contribute to it00:55
ryandahpSam-I-Am: it have. http://imagebin.ca/v/2JWi05xuJQOJ that is the network look from horizon00:55
adun153Sam-I-Am: One line answer: Why should I choose it over Fuel?00:55
adun153Sesso: I'd just do greps under /etc/apache, I guess00:56
Sam-I-Amadun153: it doesn't over-use openvswitch?00:56
adun153grep for SSL or ssl or 44300:57
Sam-I-Amryandahp: that 10.100.5 network is a tenant network... not visible from any of your other hosts, right?00:57
adun153Sam-I-Am: I'm all for less-complex deployments :D00:58
Sessooh... it did say that this conf file was moved but that "false" fle doesnt exist./etc/apache2/conf-available/openstack-dashboard.conf:# - false-horizon_ssl_vhost.conf00:58
Sam-I-Amadun153: its arguably less complex. lower minimum hw requirements, more configurable, less black-boxy imo.00:59
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Sam-I-Amand i think ssl works :)00:59
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lj1102I now know why "everything" broke down after I tried installing swift, during the process I installed pip and upgraded phyton and its packages, breaking a lot of compatibilities.00:59
adun153Sam-I-Am: Is it distro-agnostic as well?00:59
ryandahpSam-I-Am: yes sam. i want build my web server from that tenant00:59
Sam-I-Amlj1102: whoops. mixing pip and distro packages usually makes a mess.01:00
SessoFuel made life very easy lol. Still have to know what network you are using and how to configure the switches01:00
Sam-I-Amadun153: no, currently just runs on ubuntu01:00
Sam-I-Ambut does not use distro packages for openstack01:00
Sam-I-Amits source01:00
adun153Sam-I-Am: I'm cool with that. But it handles package-based dependencies as well, I supposed.01:01
adun153Sam-I-Am: I'm cool with that. But it handles package-based dependencies as well, I suppose01:01
Sam-I-Amryandahp: you probably need to assign a floating ip from the 192.168.58 network to each of those VMs and add ping/ssh/http to the security group rules01:01
Sam-I-Amadun153: it does01:01
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lj1102Sam-I-Am: indeed it does, I only know now because I figured that half of the services are not even running anymore ;O. Lesson learned!01:01
Sam-I-Amlj1102: you can sort of get away with that if you use venvs01:02
adun153Sesso: How's it going?01:02
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domcHi everyone.  Are there any recommendations for the best tool to use for image creation on Ubuntu?  I see the list in the openstack docs (Diskimage-builder, oz, etc) but was wondering if there are specific recommendations.01:03
Sessogood. nothing under apache201:03
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SessoI almost want to create a horizon_ssl_vhost.conf file and see it that will work.01:04
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Sessoit "technically" should since its using the non ssl conf file.01:04
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adun153Sam-I-Am: Maybe it's not finding the SSL config for horizon, so it's defaulting to something.01:05
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adun153Sesso: Maybe it's not finding the SSL config for horizon, so it's defaulting to something.01:05
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adun153Not Sam-I-Am, sorry01:06
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adun153Sesso: And if you set it, it'll work.01:06
ryandahpSam-I-Am: i have set that http://imagebin.ca/v/2JWlNHVEojLT is it right?01:06
SessoThats what I am thinking. Ill create it and then copy it to the other controllers.01:07
Sam-I-Amryandahp: that looks ok01:07
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: but, why i still unable ping to my instance? is it because the topology that have router node?01:08
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Sam-I-Amryandahp: did you assign a floating ip to each instance?01:09
Sam-I-Amthe router is more of a dnat/snat device, not a true router01:09
Sam-I-Amat least by default01:09
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: so its not a problem? yes i have assign the floating ip. http://imagebin.ca/v/2JWnKjZsO0Iz01:12
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Sam-I-Amryandahp: from another host on the 192.168.56 network, you can't ping 56.10 or .11?01:15
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: i cannot ping because the router is only internal network http://imagebin.ca/v/2JWom1pOpIbK01:46
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: that is the detail of my network configuration01:47
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: but i can ping the floating ip from the router node02:05
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Sam-I-Amryandahp: sounds like everything openstack is working, but your network has problems02:20
adun153Sam-I-Am: I can now instantiate instances, DHCP works fine, they can ping outside, etc.02:22
adun153Sam-I-Am: But I can't ssh in for some reason.02:22
adun153I try to ssh from my laptop to the Floating IP of the instance, it hangs02:22
adun153meanwhile, as I use my VM's console,02:22
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Sam-I-Amcan you ping into the vms?02:23
adun153netstat say that an ssh connection was established.02:23
Sessoany errors when you do ssh -v02:23
adun153what could be wrong?02:23
adun153ping works02:23
Sam-I-Amadun153: probably mtu problems02:23
adun153I can ping from the VMs02:23
Sam-I-Amdid you set the 'optional' thing in the dhcp agent from the install guide?02:23
adun153doing a wget resolves http://www.google.com, but doesn't actually download anything02:24
adun153Sam-I-Am: no02:24
adun153I guess that's next to try :p02:24
Sam-I-Ammight want to do that, restart dhcp agent, reboot vm02:24
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adun153Sam-I-Am: That seems to have done the trick. Thanks!02:28
Sam-I-Amyarp02:28
ryandahpSam-I-Am: so, is it because the internal network mode from the vm?02:29
ryandahpSam-I-Am: but why i can ping to the host from the vm instance?02:30
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Sam-I-Amryandahp: probably due to some nat somewhere02:32
Sam-I-Amthis looks like a vbox setup?02:32
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: yes this is vbox02:35
Sam-I-Amunless you have a bridged network in it, you won't be able to see "in" to your openstack VMs from the host on which vbox runs02:36
ryandahpSam-I-Am: im still confuse with the router node function02:36
Sam-I-Amthe neutron router performs nat between the private and public/external network02:37
Sam-I-Amif you can route to the network on which the floating IP resides, you can get to the openstack VMs02:37
Sam-I-Ambut if all of this is inside vbox, you cant get into it02:37
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ryandahpso there must be router node if i want the vm connect to the internet?02:41
ryandahpin my topology i use 3 vm (router node, control node, compute node), is it possible if i just want use the control and compute node without router node to connect to the internet?02:42
Sam-I-Amwell, your 56.0/24 network needs routing or switching into your host that runs vbox02:42
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Sam-I-Amthis doesnt seem like an openstack problem, it seems like a vbox architecture problem02:43
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ryandahpbut why i cannot ping from the virtualbox control node and compute node?02:45
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Sam-I-Ami dont really understand the problem02:46
Sam-I-Amopenstack looks to be working fine02:46
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ryandahpi want ask again, when i do ip nets is it ok the qrouter not show02:47
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ryandahpi just want access my instance from all device in my lan02:48
Sam-I-Amexcept all of this is in vbox, and all of your vbox networks are nat or host-only?02:49
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ryandahphttp://imagebin.ca/v/2JWom1pOpIbK that is my configuration for the vbox02:51
Sam-I-Amso, this 56 network... its on "vb internal 2" ?02:52
Sam-I-Amor vb internal 102:53
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ryandahpinternal 202:54
Sam-I-Amnothing outside of vbox can see this network?02:55
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ryandahpnoting, only router node can ping the floating ip02:57
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Sam-I-Amthe vbox network on which the 56 network resides would need to use a 'bridged network' in vbox02:58
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Sam-I-Amand then it would also need to use the same IP range as other hosts on that bridged network02:59
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ryandahpok sam, i will try that. if i change that, should i edit the routing configuration in router node?03:04
Sam-I-Ammaybe, depends on what you have to change03:04
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ryandahpbecause the router node can ping the floating ip, is it the router should be can ping the instance vm?03:11
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ryandahpif i want config the routing configuration, where i must setting it?03:11
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Sam-I-Amare you working with other people on this project?03:15
adun153Question:I have two nodes, A and B. They all have public, admin, and data network interfaces. B is the compute, and A is the controller/network.  cinder-volume is on A as well. If I attach a volume to an instance running on B, how does the data flow go?03:16
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Sam-I-Amadun153: generally via the api/controller network03:21
Sam-I-Amits configurable03:21
ryandahpSam-I-Am: i use the OPENDAYLIGHT-OVSDB integration with openstack project. they give the ova format that have snapshot inside03:21
Sam-I-Amryandahp: you need to find someone to help you with vbox03:21
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adun153Sam-I-Am: Not internal/admin?03:23
Sam-I-Amadun153: by default, its usually whatever "my_ip" is bound to03:24
adun153I see. Cool cool cool. Thanks!03:24
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: Thanks Sam-I-Am :)03:34
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ryandahpSam-I-Am: hi sam, i want ask another question. i try launc instanca with fedora 22 cloud image. and what the password for login?03:47
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SessoYou didnt tell it to use a key?03:49
SessoI attach mine to a key on create and login.03:49
SessoI change root pass after that but password logins are not allowed on mine instances.03:50
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ryandahpi did it, but it still need password for login03:58
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Sam-I-Amthey should be key-only04:43
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cooldharma06hi all07:01
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cooldharma06i have my openstack setup which is multi node setup. i want to restart my cloud07:02
cooldharma06what are the services are necessary to restart the openstack cloud07:02
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sahai Failure: ['XENAPI_PLUGIN_FAILURE', 'run_command', 'PluginError', "ovs-vsctl: 'list' command has no '--if-exists' option\n"08:46
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sahai'XENAPI_PLUGIN_FAILURE', 'run_command', 'PluginError', "ovs-vsctl: 'list' command has no '--if-exists' option\n08:47
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sahaihelp me  how to fixed it  use  neutron on xenserver.08:47
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sahaisome body help me08:56
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davidsha_sahai : whats up?09:05
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manousyou can try it09:18
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muh-die-kuhHi! We're trying to run openstack using packstack on 3 CentOS machines. One, 192.168.217.10 is used as the controller, .11 & .12 are compute nodes. We're trying to use 192.168.217.0/24 as an public existing flat network. The Instances boot and are basically working, but we're having troubles with metadata. curl 169.254.169.254:80 doesn't work within the instances.09:20
muh-die-kuhThere's an iptables rule on the compute nodes, which should point that to 192.168.217.10:8775, and from what we understand from tcpdump, the rule works. 192.168.217.10:8775 is accessible from within the instances. I pasted some tcpdump to https://gist.github.com/hco/fb78d48f6f8e1e91b408 - I don't really understand why the second package works, as I don't really see a difference between the two. Does anyone have an idea what to debug next?09:20
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Muntanerhello to everyone09:29
MuntanerI have to do a new installation of Openstack, and was seeing that the Liberty version has been released 15th October... I can't understand if it is stable or not, is it fine or it's better to install a Kilo for now?09:29
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SamYapleMuntaner: Liberty is the new stable version. OpenStack releases a new version every 6 months09:32
SamYapleMuntaner: if you are deploying something in production I would probably recommend Kilo until about a month from now09:32
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SamYapleif you are doing testing use Liberty09:32
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MuntanerSamYaple, it's more testing than other :)09:33
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SamYapleLiberty it is09:34
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MuntanerSamYaple, what about the fedora docs?09:46
MuntanerWhat OS do you suggest to use in order to try Liberty?09:46
SamYaplewhatever you are used to09:48
MuntanerSamYaple, docs for Fedora aren't available, that was my favourite09:49
SamYaplecant help you there then. sorry.09:50
SamYapleyou could try making the kilo docs work I suppose09:50
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MuntanerSamYaple, you mean using the Kilo docs "Liberty-zed" ? :)09:58
SamYapleyea09:58
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adun153Seems like floating IPs haven't been released by Projects i've already deleted, nwo I'm out of floating IPs. What to do?10:36
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davidsha_is it on CentOS?10:37
adun153On Ubuntu10:37
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davidsha_When you say projects you deleted, it's the projects holding the instances with the floating IPs?10:41
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Zack_regarding floating IP's that are not freed, go to your controller node and execute "neutron floatingip-list"10:43
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Zack_all those that dont have fixed_ip_address and port_id are OK to be deleted by executing "neutron floatingip-delete $FLOATINGIP_ID"10:44
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Zack_that will bring them back to available pool10:44
adun153davidsha: Yes10:45
adun153as in it was assigned to them, instances were running, floats were assigned to them. I deleted the whole project right away, and it looks like those IPs haven't been released.10:46
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adun153my admin user can't allocate more than 3 ips to his project. (the quota is 50, so that's not the problem).10:46
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adun153Zack: ip floating list gives me nothing10:47
adun153it's a blank10:47
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adun153Does it show the  floating ips for just the user, or the whole system?10:48
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Zack_adun153: you have to execute it as openstack admin user. do you have credentials for admin user?10:50
adun153yes10:50
adun153I'm using the admin user already10:50
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Zack_adun153: well it should work then. it must work10:53
adun153Zck: Is it possible to check WHERE the ips are allocated to?10:53
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Zack_adun153: you can query the database if you know how10:58
Zack_adun153: start mysql then "use neutron" and after that "select * from floatingips where floating_ip_address = 'ip_address_which_you're_interested_in'\G10:59
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Zack_adun153: status will either be active or down. if it's active it means it's still in use11:00
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_nickyou don't need to poke around in the database to find out which ports floating-ips are assigned to11:03
_nick`neutron floatingip-list` will show that for all flips by default if you've the admin role assigned11:03
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* _nick reads up and realises that's already been stated11:04
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Zack__nick: exactly, neutron floatingip-list must work if admin user execute it11:12
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_nickadun153: where are you checking the quota for that user?11:13
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visibilityspotsdoes anyone know an alternative to attach a network interface to a running instance? It can be done by using nova interface-attach --net-id X SERVER, but I would like to do it using the openstack client instead..11:15
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MufasaHi... did anybody face the problem, that after you created an instance and try to ping someone. it receives 2 packets and then stops "host unreachable"11:54
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Sam-I-Amvisibilityspots: the openstack client sucks :/13:03
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: its ok its just not fully featured13:04
SamYapleill take consitency of it all day long13:04
Sam-I-AmSamYaple: as in "doesnt do anything beyond keystone" ... sure13:04
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Sam-I-Amit might do something with glance13:05
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SamYapleha good one13:05
SamYapleglance its majorly lacking13:05
SamYaplebut its got some basic stuffs for neutron and nova13:05
SamYaplethose work fine13:05
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Sam-I-Amlast i checked it couldnt do enough with neutron to use networking13:07
Sam-I-Amits just a wrapper for the underlying clients, so...13:08
SamYaplei use it for floating ips since i like things that make since13:08
SamYaplebut that may be wrapping the nova side13:08
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visibilityspotsSam-I-Am: hmm guess I'll need to call the api directly trying to adding extra network interfaces :(13:23
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lubuntu_ping www.google.com13:28
Sam-I-Amvisibilityspots: why not use the nova/neutron clients?13:29
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visibilityspotsSam-I-Am: we (ops) need to provide a tool to the validations team so they can spin up instances based on a precompiled image themselves but our instances are using vlan based networks and get an ip on an additional network interface from an external dhcp service running on every vlan13:31
visibilityspotsSam-I-Am: since you can't add a network without a subnet I create an instance and add an extra nic pointing to a network13:32
visibilityspotsSam-I-Am: it's a dirty workaround to get a network interface connected to a vlan based network without setting a subnet13:32
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visibilityspotsSam-I-Am: since we don't know the subnets on beforehand but we do know the vlan's13:32
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visibilityspotsthrough horizon you can't add a network without a subnet neither13:33
visibilityspotsthat's why I'm looking into the interface-attach command13:33
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Sam-I-Amah13:35
Sam-I-Amthats too much for my pre-coffee brain13:35
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RedcavalierHi, I'm trying to figure out something with cloud-init. I notice that on first boot of a vm, it places a .sh in /tmp . I would like to know what is inside that script file. The reason is because it takes roughly 5 minutes to execute.13:58
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jcookwin 214:01
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arlionRedcavalier: I don't mean to sound cavalier, but have you tried reading what it does?14:10
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RedcavalierI've been looking around, to no avail.14:10
arlionI'm not familar with the script, that's why I asked.14:10
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RedcavalierDon't worry, I've googled it a bit, but most documentation doesn't talk about it. I have my own guess as to what it does, but it's really only a guess.14:11
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RedcavalierAh, I just got an idea14:13
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RedcavalierIf I were to set cloud-init to copy the content of /tmp elsewhere, I might be able to read its content even though cloud-init deletes the original file.14:14
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pumaranikarhi, I want to keep vm_state of an instance in "building" state for replicating one issue. Any suggestions about how can i achieve this?14:18
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ohno13Does anyone know how to increase the default keystone token expiration time from 1hr?14:30
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Zack1ohno13: If you're takling about UI (horizon session timeout) it's in /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py => SESSION_TIMEOUT value14:35
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cprmrfrunning into some frustrating oslo errors14:38
cprmrfhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/476700/14:38
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ohno13Zack1:  Thank you I was wondering if those were the same thing since we have increased session_timeout, but still timeout after an hour14:38
cprmrfusing 1:2014.2.3-0ubuntu1.2~cloud0, and rabbitmq14:39
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ohno13Zack1: But what I am more concerned about is our swift transfers that are terminating after an hour when the token expires14:39
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Zack1ohno13: sorry, swift is something we dropped right after we tested it, back when we started with out O'stack proof of concept, cant help you here14:41
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Zack1cprmrf: looks like you have trouble with you message queues. what do you use? RabbitMQ? do you have HA? try reseting the queues14:44
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Zack1ohno13: which openstack version do you use. looks like you have glance to swift client problem. check this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/141563514:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1485639 in Fuel for OpenStack "duplicate for #1415635 [Glance] Need to change default glance-api conf parameters" [High,Won't fix] - Assigned to Denis Egorenko (degorenko)14:51
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ohno13Zack1: similar, but without the glance just long running transfers directly to swift using a cli14:56
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ohno13Zack1: I agree that the client can solve this by getting a new token, but I am being asked to extend the expiration in the meantime. It sounds like people have done it, but I do not see the setting to change it14:57
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ohno13Zack1: Sorry we are on Kilo14:57
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Zack1ohno13: did you check the calls in source14:58
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Zack1ohno13: though I'm not much experienced in that, my devops were looking things there when we encountered strange problems14:58
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mza-_i added an ipv6 subnet to one of my external networks and it automagically assigned ipv6 addresses to all of my router interfaces/instances. i got the cidr wrong, is there a way to delete the subnet without deleting all the ports? I encounter an error where it says there are assignments from that subnet in use.15:00
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ohno13Zack1: I haven't looked at the source15:00
mza-_when i try to assign a cidr from that block to an internal network i get an overlap error15:00
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drawsmcgrawZack1: Can I ask why you dropped Swift? I was hoping to use it as a local S3-type service.15:09
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Zack1drawsmcgraw: Currently we dont use object storage, so there was no need for swift15:11
drawsmcgrawAh, okay. I'd *love* to have object storage. Was afraid it didn't meet your needs or was broken in some way.15:11
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drawsmcgrawThanks Zack115:11
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Zack1drawsmcgraw: no problem. as for volume backends, we have SolidFire which is native SSD storage, and as a secondary volume backend we opted for Ceph-RBD15:12
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drawsmcgrawInteresting. So your volume backend for your Openstack volumes is an outside service?15:13
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drawsmcgrawAlso, I'm afraid I'm going to have to learn Ceph... Every time I hear about Swift/Cinder, I hear better things about Ceph than I do about GlusterFS15:14
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Zack1drawsmcgraw: yeah, SolidFire for high IOPS volumes, and Ceph for general purpose15:14
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drawsmcgrawZack1: I hadn't thought of outsourcing a backend.... that would be nice. And I imagine it's much easier/cheaper than putting together your own SSD machines just for a volume backend.15:15
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drawsmcgrawLast question Zack1 (promise!), any recommended reading material/books to get started on learning Ceph?15:16
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Zack1drawsmcgraw: actually we bought a few solidfire clusters, they are ours, and they are expensive as s**t, believe me15:16
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drawsmcgrawAh, so they live inside your walls. Heh, I can believe it. Custom, specialized SSD boxes.15:17
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Zack1drawsmcgraw: regarding ceph, screw books, go with the official documentation, it's quite good actually15:17
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drawsmcgrawZack1: Wow. Good to hear. I'm always a little let down when I go to the official docs. I'll be sure to give them a go when it comes time.15:18
drawsmcgrawThanks!15:18
drawsmcgrawNot the official docs for Ceph. I mean the official docs for projects in general.15:18
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Sam-I-Amdrawsmcgraw: openstack docs? :)15:19
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drawsmcgrawSam-I-Am: Y'know, actually. Following the install guides was perfect for when I was Salting my Openstack cluster.15:20
drawsmcgrawOutside of that, well... I'm glad I have access to the source code :)15:20
Sam-I-Amfunny you say that, i wrote the install guide15:20
Sam-I-Amand some other stuff15:20
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Zack1openstack docs are fine for initial build, after that everithing is DIY and "You're on your own" :)15:20
drawsmcgrawVery well done, sir. I appreciate the writing style. Though the last one I read was for Icehouse.15:20
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Sam-I-Amdrawsmcgraw: ohh, its gotten much better since then15:21
drawsmcgrawYeah, though the guys in this room (*ahem* Sam-I-Am and others) have gotten me out of more than one jam before.15:21
Sam-I-Amcomplete rewrite for juno and another architectural simplification for liberty15:21
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Sam-I-Amthe key with instructive/procedural docs is being proactive instead of reactive about them15:21
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: yeah, how come you opted for only two node install guide for Liberty?15:22
Sam-I-Amthat shift is what makes the installation guide not suck these days15:22
drawsmcgrawSam-I-Am: good to hear. I'm likely targeting Liberty for our rebuild in the mid-future. Our Icehouse cluster is running CentOS 615:22
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Sam-I-AmZack1: lots of people complaining about needing 3 nodes and simply going with nova-net instead of neutron because it required only 2 nodes... among other stuff. we also dropped the network interface requirements.15:22
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drawsmcgrawInteresting. Proactive as in considering what could go wrong and/or mentioning deviations in the doc?15:23
Sam-I-Amproactive as in testing it15:23
drawsmcgrawah! Of course15:23
Sam-I-Ammaking sure whats there actually works15:23
drawsmcgraw*that's* what takes all the time.15:23
Sam-I-Amprior to icehouse, it was very reactive. doesnt work? file bug. might get fixed, but probably not tested. still doesnt work? file another bug.15:23
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Sam-I-Amthe networking guide is also proactive15:24
Sam-I-Amand yes, testing all of this is a pain, which is why i think we lost contributors to the installation guide... the stakes are higher now. unless you reaaaaallly understand whats going on you can't just fire-and-forget.15:24
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Zack1But if you want to test HA, and that is something it's mandatory with use, than two node scenario is just not satisfying. Currently I'm using 15 VM's to create Liberty PoC with all services behind HaProxy15:25
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Sam-I-AmZack1: the installation guide is designed to get services working in the most basic sense possible.15:25
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Sam-I-Amthe plan for new users is use install guide -> add/remove optional features based on project requirements -> add security/ha -> use deployment tool15:26
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drawsmcgrawWhat do you use to automate these POC's? I mean, you have to prove the *commands* work, yeah. But surely not all POC's are hand-built?15:27
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: Actually when I think about it, what you say makes sense, good work. I'll do it like that, and write Ansible playbooks for mass deployment15:30
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Sam-I-AmZack1: i like openstack-ansible15:30
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drawsmcgrawSeems natural, especially with RedHat's recent purchase.15:31
Zack1I like Ansible in general, hope nothing will change now when RedHat bought them15:31
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Zack1Tho one day I'd like to try Canonical MaaS and Juju also15:33
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Sam-I-Amdrawsmcgraw: it would be nice if we could get more people to write proactive docs15:40
Sam-I-Amhowever, beyond basic installation, we've found that people's deployments become very opinionated15:40
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Sam-I-Amthere's no one-size-fits-all15:40
SamYapleSam-I-Am: you dont like digging through blog posts?15:40
drawsmcgrawZack1: I saw Juju a few years ago at an openstack conference. That was *magic*15:40
Sam-I-Amfor neutron i came up with a bunch of common scenarios written in a way that people could implement them in their own environments15:41
drawsmcgrawSam-I-Am: I can understand that. Already hard to get people to write. Getting them to write *better* only reduces the set of volunteers15:41
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Sam-I-Ambut not all services work that way15:41
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drawsmcgrawOf course15:41
Sam-I-Amdrawsmcgraw: the problem too is that devs dont write docs, operators are too busy (or have opinionated deployments), and doc writers don't understand openstack15:41
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Sam-I-Am*most* doc writers dont understand openstack15:42
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drawsmcgrawVery small intersection of willing and able15:42
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drawsmcgrawDigital Ocean has a similarly rigorous process for all their howto articles.15:42
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Sam-I-Amthat moment you see people outside your downtown condo window and go WTF?15:42
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Sam-I-Amright, its window cleaning day15:42
drawsmcgrawThough they can entice people with money (and possibly notoriety)15:42
drawsmcgrawhah15:43
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: does the "dont understand openstack" include you? or just disparaging others?15:44
domcSam-I-Am: I'm a dev ramping up on openstack now, and I don't mind writing. It may be a good and easy way for me to contribute and come up to speed.  Are there specific documentation areas you would suggest need help?15:45
Sam-I-AmSamYaple: i'm not a docs writer by trade. i'm a sys/net/dev guy who happens to write docs well.15:45
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SamYapleso just disparaging others. got it!15:45
Sam-I-Amdomc: do you have any specific interest areas?15:45
Sam-I-AmSamYaple: uhhh, yeah sure15:46
domcSam-I-Am: my background is networking / security so I figured Neutron was a good choice15:46
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Sam-I-AmSamYaple: turns out, docs roles dont pay well, so people with the skills we need to document a very complex, technical thing usually go do something else... like sys/net admin, dev, etc.15:47
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Sam-I-Amdomc: cool. we're always looking for help with the networking guide, especially the "intro" content15:47
SamYaplei was just refering to your comment about others in the community. i understand the situation15:48
Sam-I-Amdomc: by intro, i mean trying to explain linux/software networking concepts to people who either come from conventional networking (cisco, brocade, etc.) roles or conventional virt roles (vmware)15:48
Zack1Sam-I-Am: maybe you're not the right person to ask, but is neutron DVR support available in Liberty? Last time I saw it was mentioned, it was as a blueprint for Juno i think15:48
Sam-I-AmZack1: it works in juno, kilo, and liberty, but the level of "work" is fuzzy15:49
SamYaplewould not recommend it for juno15:49
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Zack1ok, thanks, will try it anyway15:50
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Sam-I-AmZack1: do you use self-service networking?15:50
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notmynamedrawsmcgraw: I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about using Swift15:50
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: currently we have Icehouse, and HA neutron, but it's active/passive, we are using pacemaker and custom script to transfer agents when failure occurs15:52
Sam-I-Amdomc: there's a definite gap in knowledge between conventional virtualization and networking roles when it comes to doing networking on linux15:52
Sam-I-AmZack1: eeeooo15:52
Sam-I-AmZack1: better question - do most of your instances connect directly to real networks, or do you use private/tenant networks?15:52
drawsmcgrawnotmyname: Just looking to get a private version of S3. I was leaning toward GlusterFS as a backend for simplicity but everything I read recommends Ceph15:53
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: yeah, we use private/tenant netweorks and floating IP's for external access15:53
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notmynamedrawsmcgraw: generally, the three things (ceph, gluster, swift) are for 3 different use cases. you should choose the right one based on what you're trying to do15:53
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domcSam-I-Am: Cool, I'd be happy to contribute.  I've been looking at the docs to see if there is a specific one you think could benefit, is this the one: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/intro_os_networking_overview.html#openstack-networking-concepts ?15:53
Sam-I-AmZack1: for everything?15:53
drawsmcgrawNothing specialized. Just storing build artifacts and other arbitrary binary blobs.15:53
SamYapledrawsmcgraw: ceph has a pretty good s3 layer15:53
Sam-I-Amdrawsmcgraw: yeah, in there.15:53
Sam-I-Amerr domc15:53
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: yeah each tenant has it's own private tenant network, an certain number of public floating IP's available15:54
drawsmcgrawSamYaple: Neat. I keep saying 'Swift' only because I just want S3 behavior. I don't *have* to have Swift. Just something that speaks S315:54
Sam-I-AmZack1: hmm, in which case you always need l3... the general limiting factor of neutron.15:54
Zack1Sam-I-Am: our OpenStack still runs as a beta, it's not in a production15:54
SamYapledrawsmcgraw: i wouldnt recommend ceph over swift though. its keystone integration is not as good15:54
notmynamedrawsmcgraw: ceph is most commonly used by people deploying openstack as a block storage backend and limited object storage. gluster is more for a distributed filesystem. and swift is good for pure object storage use cases (ie like s3)15:54
Zack1Sam-I-Am: that's correct15:55
SamYapledrawsmcgraw: how important is keystone integration?15:55
Sam-I-AmZack1: have you looked the built-in l3ha?15:55
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drawsmcgrawSamYaple: Not very. My needs for S3 are really simple (so far)15:55
Zack1Sam-I-Am: We will look every alternative now as we have started to build Liberty PoC15:55
Zack1and use one best suited15:55
drawsmcgrawnotmyname: Sounds like I need to do a bit more homework on the different systems...15:56
drawsmcgrawI *do* want something distributed/HA15:56
Zack1I hope DVR will work for us, we like the idea15:56
SamYapledrawsmcgraw: if you want to aviod keystone i personally think ceph has a superior s3 layer. but swift is the way to go if you want to integrate with keystone15:56
drawsmcgrawOh! Forgot -> I want to have shared storage for compute as well. That's why I was thinking something like Gluster/Ceph serving both Swift and Nova (unless I'm entirely off base?)15:56
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drawsmcgrawSamYaple: notmyname, how does it change the decision when I say I'd also like to use shared storage for Nova?15:57
SamYapledrawsmcgraw: if you want unified, it seems like ceph can do what you are looking for15:57
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Sam-I-AmZack1: how big is your env?15:57
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drawsmcgrawSamYaple: Okay. So set up Ceph, then I can use Ceph for shared storage for Nova. And then, I have a choice of using Ceph to back Swift, -or- just use straight S3 from Ceph.15:58
notmynamedrawsmcgraw: if you'd like to play with swift, the two easiest ways to try it out are (1) https://github.com/swiftstack/vagrant-swift-all-in-one that automates installing from source and sets up a simulated cluster in a VM or (2) https://swiftstack.com/try-it-now/ for swift plus a free trial of some commercial bits around it15:58
notmynamedrawsmcgraw: what's the overall size of the data you want to put in object storage?15:58
Zack1Sam-I-Am: currently our beta has, 2xController/Network nodes and 16 compute nodes, with external volume storages15:58
Sam-I-Amthere's also the not-so-automated way in the install guide15:58
drawsmcgrawnotmyname: Neat. I'll be sure to hit those when the time comes (still a few months out and doing legwork at the moment)15:58
Sam-I-Am(for swift)15:58
SamYapledrawsmcgraw: you _can_ use ceph to back swift, but its not very well supported. you can also go straight s3 with ceph, and ceph has a swift/keystone layer that works... ok-ish15:58
drawsmcgrawnotmyname: I imagine we'd want Docker images in there so.. several-hundred MBs15:59
drawsmcgrawSamYaple: Fair enough. I don't need the Keystone integration - I just want simple object storage. If that's the case, I can just forgo Swift and use Ceph's S3 layer15:59
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SamYapledrawsmcgraw: thats what I would do based on what you are saying15:59
notmynamedrawsmcgraw: megabytes?15:59
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drawsmcgrawnotmyname: correct16:00
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drawsmcgrawSamYaple: Sounds good. I'm always a fan of fewer moving parts.16:00
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SamYapledrawsmcgraw: docker registry backed by ceph?16:00
Sam-I-AmZack1: dvr has complexity and scale problems, so the potential for problems there needs to be carefully compared with l3ha failure modes16:00
SamYaplethere is very good support for that16:00
drawsmcgrawSamYaple: possibly in the future. But the first iteration is probably just going to be a bucket stuffed with containers16:00
SamYapleah still thats fine16:00
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drawsmcgrawI mean, if the support is great and the learning curve is reasonable, sure, we could stand up our registry on the first iteration.16:01
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: well for starters, I'd be glad if I could get rid of gre tunnels in favor of vxlan, hope that works16:01
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Zack1Sam-I-Am: and thank you for all this input man, this is great, I have a meeting with my boss tomorrow regarding new PoC, this is great info16:02
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drawsmcgrawnotmyname, SamYaple Thanks for your input. I've gotten much better information out of this chat than a lot of other time spent crawling articles online.16:02
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Sam-I-AmZack1: dvr works with all tenant network types16:03
notmynamedrawsmcgraw: happy to help. please let me know if you have any questions about swift specifically16:04
Sam-I-AmZack1: the benefit of l3ha is that it works with linuxbridge too, so you're not locked into the ovs mess16:04
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drawsmcgrawnotmyname: Will do. Thanks again!16:04
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SamYaple"ovs mess" is an opinion not a fact Zack1 :)16:05
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Sam-I-AmSamYaple: much less complexity16:05
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SamYaplefair point16:05
Sam-I-Amovs adds an extra layer of stuff, and dvr adds a layer of stuff on that16:05
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Sam-I-Amso troubleshooting and performance issues become real at scale16:05
SamYaplewell ovs only adds a layer because of the need to use bridges with iptables16:06
Zack1SamYaple: once we had a switch failure and ovs database got corrupted... all I can say is thank god we have backup :)16:06
SamYaplethis time next year that wont be the case, instance veth directly into ovs16:06
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Sam-I-AmSamYaple: it also adds cryptic flows16:06
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SamYapleyet it has tools that can tell you if you put this packet on this interface with this ip and or mac, what will happen to it16:06
SamYaplethats really handy16:07
Sam-I-Ampeople trying to understand linux networking freak out when they have to debug ovs16:07
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SamYaplewell it being complicated isn't a messure of how well it works16:07
SamYaplebut i understand what you are saying16:07
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Sam-I-Ami think the original plan was having a bunch of vendors support openflow and letting hardware handle most of the neutron tasks, but that never really happened16:09
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domcSam-I-Am: I've been browsing the intro to networking doc and see how the "Overview and components" section can benefit from some additional detail, and "Service and component hierarchy" is mostly placeholders, those are probably good places to start, would you agree?16:16
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Sam-I-Amyup!16:20
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Sam-I-Amwe need to explain how things like bridges and namespaces compare to 'real life' networking things, how neutron uses those components, etc.16:21
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Sam-I-Amwhat the l2 agent does vs. what the l3 agent does16:21
Sam-I-Amwhy you would or wouldnt need an l3 agent, etc16:21
Sam-I-Amlimitations of l3 agents16:21
Sam-I-Amthe fun never ends16:21
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sloweHi all, not sure if anyone is bringing a spouse/partner/loved one to the Summit next week, but if so my wife has organized some activities for them. More info at http://spousetivities.com/2015/10/spousetivities-is-going-to-openstack-summit-in-tokyo/16:47
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cybojanekDoes anyone where know what the status of the puppet modules for liberty is?16:51
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pumaranikardoes anyone know how can i change instance_build_timeout for nova-compute for periodic tasks and whats its default value ?16:52
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visbitsanyone upgraded their testing install from kilo to liberty?17:12
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visbitsis liberty a thing17:36
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Sam-I-Amyes17:36
visbitsit looks like it won't be under RDO any more?17:36
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wNvisbits: ?17:40
visbitshttps://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-liberty/00README.txt17:40
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wNthat link doesnt work17:41
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SamYaplewN if it says "obsoleted by" then it does17:41
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SamYaplevisbits: i think thats saying use the centos 7 repos on fedora17:41
wNokay yes, it link technically works, but are you trying to show me a text file with a one liner saying to use a different url?17:41
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Sam-I-Amvisbits: the rdo folks havent appeared to come to a conclusion on an official place for the packages17:42
visbitssigh, someone got their feelings hurt17:42
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DiplomatYou know what would be fun.. OpenStack having reasonable error reporting17:45
SamYapleDiplomat: pff yea. wheres the sport in that17:45
DiplomatMost of the time those error messages are reasonable, but when things to weird.. then those weird error messages come out17:45
visbitsDiplomat heard that17:45
DiplomatIt's like the dark side of youtube17:45
Diplomatgo *17:46
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SamYaplegotta love getting an exception about something unrelated because that just happened to be the closest except in the chain17:46
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DiplomatYup <317:46
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visbitshttps://trello.com/b/HhXlqdiu/rdo17:46
visbitslooks like a few random issues holding it up17:47
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Sam-I-Amfrom what i can tell, they will have centos/rhel 7 packages for liberty, but the only packages for fedora will be built from master17:48
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cucumber_hi, I'm trying to migrate an instance from one host to another with "nova migrate [ID] --poll", I receive a "Server migrating... 100% complete", "Finished" message, but the instance is still in the original host. Where shluld I see a log that can tell me anything about that?17:49
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cucumber_the two hosts have the same CPU model according to "virsh capabilities". The model is SandyBridge17:50
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Zack1cucumber_: did you try to specify destination compute host? I think you have a "problem" with scheduler, that is if scheduler decides there is no need for migration as current compute host is OK with resources, it will leave instance on the same compute host17:54
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cucumber_Zack1, I didn't tell where to migrate, but I see it tried to migrate to the one I want...17:56
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cucumber_Zack1, if I run "nova migration-list --host tramontana.akainix.local"17:56
cucumber_it tells me: Source Node              | Dest Node             | Source Compute           | Dest Compute          | Dest Host    | Status17:56
cucumber_tramontana.akainix.local | mistral.akainix.local | tramontana.akainix.local | mistral.akainix.local | 192.168.70.9 | error17:57
cucumber_tramontana is the source, mistral the destination17:57
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Zack1cucumber_: can you check nova-compute logs on both hosts, is there something of a value?17:57
cucumber_so, I know there is an error.. but I don't know what error17:57
cucumber_Zack1, what log? /var/log/nova/nova-api.log?17:58
Zack1/var/log/nova/nova-compute.log on compute nodes17:58
cucumber_ok, let me check17:58
Zack1also check nova scheduler log on controller nodes17:59
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cucumber_actually tramontana is controller and compute node.. that's why I want to migrate from there17:59
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Zack1cucumber_: also what king of a storage are you using for your instance drives? is it shared or local?18:01
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Zack1if local, all caching options for instance disk should be off18:02
cucumber_ResizeError: Resize error: not able to execute ssh command: Unexpected error while running command.18:02
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cucumber_hmmmm18:02
cucumber_key problem?18:02
Zack1cucumber_: yeah seems like one18:02
cucumber_Host key verification failed.18:02
cucumber_ok, I can fix that18:02
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DiplomatI'm wondering.. if I'm using provider network then shouldn't I specify to which machine that VM must be created because um.. IPs are attached to controllers and if a VM gets a wrong ip then network connection wouldn't work?18:04
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Sam-I-AmDiplomat: you should have just layer 2 going into your compute nodes18:08
Sam-I-AmIPs belong to VMs18:08
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Sam-I-Amfloating ips belong to the L3 agent, but provider networks dont use the L3 agent18:09
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DiplomatBut when I add a subnet that belongs to compute1 node. Create a VM.. and then vm is created into compute318:09
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Sam-I-Amwhat?18:10
Sam-I-Amhow does a subnet belong to a particular compute node?18:11
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Sam-I-Amwhat networks are available on each compute node depends on the bridge/interface mapping18:11
DiplomatWell, for example when I buy a dedi with /29 then that /29 is used by that dedi..18:11
DiplomatOw18:11
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Sam-I-Am1 physical network, 2 subnets?18:12
DiplomatNo, 1 physical network and 1 subnet or more18:12
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DiplomatFor example like SolusVM has.. every host node has specific IPs only18:13
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Sam-I-Ami... guess you could make that work, but i dont know why18:14
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DiplomatI don't know, I'm reading this http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/scenario_provider_lb.html and it makes total sense and it's exactly how I need it, but I'm confused as hell how that IP assignment goes. Because this case I'm in a situation where I have received servers from datacenter with /29 with every server. It's  not possible to use server1's ip for server2 etc.. soo I'm a bit unsure what to do18:26
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SamYapleDiplomat: im not quite qure of your scenario but you _can_ use different ips on different ports18:27
SamYaplelike with keepalived or something18:27
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: so your dc assigns /29 per host?18:27
DiplomatYes18:27
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: oh, thats terrible18:27
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Sam-I-Amyou'll need to create a network for each /29, and subnet on that network with only that /2918:28
Sam-I-Amthen map that network name to the interface on only the host with that network18:28
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SamYapleoh18:28
DiplomatI can add more if it's required obviously, but by default it comes with /29 yes18:28
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DiplomatOk I think that would work yes18:29
Sam-I-AmDiplomat: they should have a way to drop something like a /28 or larger across >1 host18:29
Sam-I-Amthis sort of breaks any sort of host-level redundancy18:29
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DiplomatWell true.. I'm sure it would be possible to get some kind of custom solution yes18:30
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cucumber_Zack1, it worked, thanks!18:31
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DiplomatActually I think it would make sense to colocate and then ask for a custom solution like that18:31
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Zack1cucumber_: no problem! glad it worked18:32
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bildzCan someone help me understand the networking piece, when adding interfaces to the ovs-switch bridge18:44
bildzi keep loosing connectivity and am not sure whats going on18:44
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bildzanyone around?18:48
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Sam-I-Ambildz: sounds like you are using the ip of the interface that you added to the ovs bridge18:51
bildzthat would be correct18:52
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bildzwell it's not ip'ed.  I just added the interface to the bridge18:53
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Sam-I-Amits not the interface you're using to access the box?18:53
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bildzit is18:54
bildzi have OOB though18:54
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bildzI have 2 nics in this server18:56
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Sam-I-Ambildz: if you make the nic that you're using to access the box a port on the ovs bridge, it will break connectivity18:58
bildzthere's no way to get them to coexist?18:59
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Sam-I-Amyou can move the ip from that interface to the ovs bridge19:00
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cucumber_How can I force vm_state to change from error to active?19:05
cucumber_I want to detach a volume from that instance. The I can delete it19:06
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cucumber_nova reset-state is not working19:06
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cucumber_or.. is there any "nova volume-detach --force" or something?19:07
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baker@cucumber_ can you --force the reset-state?19:08
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cucumber_baker, nope.. is not an option19:09
bakerhmm, I thought it was19:10
bakerI had to do that before19:10
cucumber_ nova reset-state [--active] <server> [<server> ...]19:10
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cucumber_baker, oh.. the --active did it19:10
cucumber_:)19:10
bakerthere ya go19:10
admin0how to calculate resource availability in openstack ?19:10
bakerI knew there was a way to force the state to something19:11
admin0like how much resource are available  before we order hardware19:11
cucumber_baker, now is in "detaching" state (the volume)19:11
cucumber_I have another in the same situation... for the last 8 hours...19:11
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cucumber_I hope takes shorter this time19:12
baker@cucumber_ are they both on the same compute instance?19:12
cucumber_yes19:13
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bildzwhy do you have to turn on promisc mode on the bridge?19:13
bakerI've had lucky cycling nova-compute service on the compute node when I start getting weird issues with the state's getting stuck19:14
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Sam-I-Ambildz: you dont19:14
Sam-I-Ambildz: not on the ovs bridge at least19:15
bildzip link set br-ex promisc on19:15
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Sam-I-Amnot sure where you're reading this19:15
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Sam-I-Ambut its not official docs19:15
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cucumber_baker, I'll wait one hour (I'll go to lunch) and if is not detached, I'll restart nova-compute services...19:16
Sam-I-Amand if it is...19:16
bakerk - good luck19:16
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bildzSam-I-Am: https://fosskb.wordpress.com/2014/06/10/managing-openstack-internaldataexternal-network-in-one-interface/19:17
bildzjust trying to understand the briding inside openstack19:17
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cucumber_baker, what if I destroy the instance where is attached the volume? Bad idea?19:18
Sam-I-Ambildz: thats overly complex19:18
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Sam-I-Amits easier to configure openstack to use 1 network rather than munge your network config into thinking it has 3 networks19:18
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Sam-I-Ambbiab19:19
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baker@cucumber_ don't trust me on this if it's critical data :)19:19
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bakerbut I think it would leave the volume19:20
bakerbut I'm not 100% sure19:20
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bildzSam-I-Am: where are instructions to just setup 1 network?19:20
cucumber_ok19:20
cucumber_I'll meditate diring lunch about this :)19:20
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bakerI'd try cycling the nova-compute service first :)19:21
cucumber_hahaha, ok19:21
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DiplomatSam-I-Am: Any suggestions for me what kind of network model I should use for my issue here? That flat network using a network node is not very bad idea and it appears to work fine, but problem is that it doesn't like multiple different subnets.19:35
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DiplomatActually, I'm reading this: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/multiple-external-networks-with-a-single-l3-agent and it might make sense19:39
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Sam-I-Ambildz: there arent any official ones. however, you can move the ip of your one interface to br-ex, then use that ip for all openstack services19:47
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bildzthanks19:48
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si1v3rHi all. I'm looking for openstack documentation for havana and icehouse. This page has a link to where they should be but it's now a redirect to the docs landing page. https://openstack.nimeyo.com/2691/openstack-older-developer-documentation-icehouse-havana20:00
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si1v3rThat is, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/havana/ now redirects to http://docs.openstack.org/index.html20:01
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Sam-I-Amall that stuff is long long dead20:01
Sam-I-Amremoved from the repos20:01
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si1v3rAnd there are no mirrors?20:01
Sam-I-Amnope, gone20:02
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annegentlesi1v3r: how can we help you get what you need? Why havana and icehouse?20:02
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si1v3rI have them running in prod and need to reference some default values.20:02
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si1v3rI suspect the defaults have changed in juno and later and would like to try some, but need to confirm the defaults did in fact change.20:03
annegentlesi1v3r: I can send you PDFs if it's just the config ref, drop me an email at anne@openstack.org to remind me20:04
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annegentlesi1v3r: You can also browse the tagged icehouse-eol source at https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/icehouse-eol/doc/config-reference20:08
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visbitswell looks like neutron gets major fuxed in the new release lol20:13
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si1v3rannegentle: Thanks. This has what I needed.20:14
annegentlesi1v3r: excellent20:14
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john5223Can you run both lxc and kvm on a compute node or you have to pick one?20:14
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visbitswhere does one find the values of config options in openstack20:50
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john5223visbits: for which service?20:52
visbitsim trying to figure out why my liberty neutron security groups are all rekt.. http://docs.openstack.org/draft/config-reference/content/networking-options-securitygroups.html   these specifically20:52
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jwitkohey All, I just added a compute node using OSAD and it seems to be having trouble getting instances assigned to it.  In the scheduler logs I'm seeing the error "" No compute service record found for host oss-comp07"   but the nova-compute service is running and the logs don't show any signs of obvious error21:21
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jwitkosorry somehow the hypervisor got disabled21:38
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john5223Anyone using LXD with openstack?22:11
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prometheanfireis keystone the only service other than horizon to have wsgi support?22:52
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