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| jwitko | Hey All, Can anyone please help me work out a live migration issue? The full debug error is here http://paste.openstack.org/show/476794/ -- but the basics are that its saying the compute node is not on shared storage, but it is! | 01:12 |
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| larsks | jwitko: what version of openstack are you running? | 01:18 |
| jwitko | larsks, Kilo | 01:18 |
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| jwitko | I have disabled config drive accross the board and have restarted all appropriate nova services | 01:18 |
| jwitko | in the libvirt.xml of the instance I do still see the cdrom disk, but even after I do an --eject and it completes successfully, i still can not live migrate | 01:19 |
| larsks | Okay. There was a bug that could result in that error...but that was well before Kilo. | 01:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is /var/lib/nova/instances on shared storage? | 01:21 |
| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, I'm 99% sure it is. How can I make certain ? | 01:22 |
| larsks | jwitko: you can perform the same test that nova does: | 01:22 |
| larsks | create a file in /var/lib/nova/instances. | 01:22 |
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| larsks | Do you see it on the other node? | 01:22 |
| jwitko | one moment | 01:22 |
| larsks | Also, simply running "df" or "mount" ought to be sufficient to confirm. | 01:23 |
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| jwitko | No! so they're not linking that directory to the shared storage! | 01:23 |
| jwitko | i'm using NetApp as my cinder backend | 01:23 |
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| jwitko | and all VMs, from what I can tell, have their block storage on the netapp | 01:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is not a cinder thing | 01:24 |
| jwitko | my instances are created from volume snap-shots | 01:24 |
| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, I see... Can you provide any guidance ? :) | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | iirc, you cant live migrate cinder-backed volumes because you can't mount a block device in more than one place at once | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, cinder-backed vms | 01:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least this is last i thought about it... larsks may have more input | 01:25 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: Not right now. I've only made basic use of cinder and can't comment authoritatively...but I think you are correct. | 01:26 |
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| jwitko | well fuck | 01:27 |
| jwitko | if I went with NFS over iSCSI would this have not been an issue? | 01:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jwitko: i think thats the path you need to research tho... can you live migrate iscsi block storage (boot volume or otherwise) | 01:27 |
| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, Trying to google it now but coming up a bit short | 01:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you want to test just live migration, boot a regular instance without cirros... and if you have /var/lib/nova/instances shared among compute nodes (which can be any backend) it should work | 01:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | errr | 01:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | without cinder | 01:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | stupid c words | 01:29 |
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| jwitko | wow | 01:31 |
| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, if I use the option "migrate block storage" when live migrating | 01:31 |
| jwitko | it works without issue | 01:31 |
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| jwitko | actually... it reports success... but i have yet see it migrate | 01:33 |
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| jwitko | doing a block migration produces the following error | 01:35 |
| jwitko | 2015-10-19 21:34:02.549 7724 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.dispatcher [req-ed64754b-ffb0-4529-8231-87cfe16ac03c 99903c87e9ab4bb3b29bc51b0943330c 7f43cc16e3714f1c84e525455ddb7495 - - -] Exception during message handling: Live migration of instances with config drives is not supported in libvirt unless libvirt instance path and drive data is shared across compute nodes. | 01:35 |
| jwitko | but config drives are disabled! | 01:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 01:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you figure out if /var/lib/nova/instances is shared? | 01:38 |
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| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, its definitely not | 01:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | you need to remedy that | 01:39 |
| jwitko | its just a regular directory on compute nodes | 01:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | then it'll work... plus that 'migrate block storage' option | 01:40 |
| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, So thats very confusing to me. All of my VMs are stored on the SAN... isn't the entire purpose of having the SAN so that live migration can happen ? | 01:40 |
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| jwitko | or is this an issue with the meta-data that is stored on the compute node? | 01:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | ^ this | 01:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | basically, all the libvirt bits | 01:41 |
| jwitko | shit | 01:41 |
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| jwitko | Any ideas on how I can fix this ? | 01:41 |
| jwitko | is this going to completely ruin all running instances? | 01:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not necessarily | 01:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | is anything critical? | 01:41 |
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| jwitko | there are things in production | 01:42 |
| jwitko | but if I can do one compute node at a time, it should be do-able | 01:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | you'll need to evacuate vms from a host, mount the shared file system there, then move some back... in not-live mode. | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | but hopefully your app is cloudy and doesnt notice things dropping off :) | 01:43 |
| jwitko | my app is not cloudy, its crappy | 01:43 |
| jwitko | 10yr old code | 01:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | live migration is a thing from conventional vmware days | 01:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | does your app have more than 1 of the same thing running? | 01:44 |
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| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, yes. | 01:44 |
| jwitko | So I can fix a compute host with nothing on it and spin up an instance there | 01:44 |
| jwitko | and then bring one down | 01:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 01:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats how you do this | 01:44 |
| jwitko | but in general will this process work? | 01:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | make an nfs share on your netapp box, mount it to 1 compute node with nothing running, not-live-migrate or boot an instance there | 01:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | maybe move a few things there | 01:45 |
| jwitko | 1) shutdown all VMs running on a server. 2) move the /var/lib/nova/instances directory somewhere else 3) create a mounted shared directory in its place 4) move the contents of the original directory back to the new shared dir 5) boot instances? | 01:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | then clear out another host, mount the fs there | 01:45 |
| jwitko | the app doesn't really lend itself to just spinning up a new instance. it has persistent connections that interrupt user experience if shut down prematurely | 01:46 |
| jwitko | would my above method work just as well? | 01:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you could potentially move the directory, but not while libvirt is running, could get messy. other option is temporarily mount the shared fs on /mnt/blah, stop instances, copy libvirt stuff over, then remount it in the correct place | 01:46 |
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| jwitko | alright | 01:48 |
| jwitko | Sam-I-Am, is there a way I can configure this in OSAD for future compute nodes? and to make it work on non-active compute nodes using OSAD? | 01:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is all at the system level, so just make sure each host has a shared fs for libvirt | 01:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | osad doesnt know about host configuration | 01:49 |
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| jwitko | but its in the nova dir? | 01:49 |
| jwitko | /var/lib/nova/instances | 01:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah thats it | 01:51 |
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| jidar | Anybody seen this before? Resource CREATE failed: OverQuotaClient: resources.TenantPort.resources.TenantPort: Quota exceeded for resources: ['port'] | 02:06 |
| jidar | trying to update a deployment with more compute hosts | 02:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like you hit some sort of default quota? | 02:06 |
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| jidar | yea, just trying to figure out where it comes from | 02:07 |
| jidar | like would that be part of the heat template I wonder | 02:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | it could be | 02:07 |
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| jidar | and I've got uhh, 11 hosts | 02:14 |
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| clouddig | Or do I have to install the neutron client | 03:17 |
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| bildz | hey Sam-I-Am | 03:32 |
| bildz | im reading up on the networking portion | 03:32 |
| bildz | was able to sort out the issues with the briding | 03:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool | 03:34 |
| clouddig | Sam-I-Am: thanks | 03:35 |
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| bildz | where can I specify a vlan id for the virtual router interface? | 03:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bildz: vlan ids are specified when you create networks | 03:51 |
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| bildz | Sam-I-Am: in Horizon? | 03:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think its the same there. i just use the cli stuff. | 03:54 |
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| bildz | I'd like to juse use the cli as well | 03:54 |
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| tyagiprince2010 | hey need help with token authentication using pki provider in keystone. | 06:57 |
| tyagiprince2010 | please help | 06:57 |
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| Sesso | Do I need anything more that this to limit read and write? I still get over 80MB/s | extra_specs | {"quota:disk_read_bytes_sec": "10485760", "quota:disk_write_bytes_sec": "10485760"} | 07:56 |
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| snecklifter | Hi, can you still set upgrade_levels to Juno after upgrading controllers to Kilo? | 12:23 |
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| larsks | snecklifter: that is pretty much the only reason you would *want* to set upgrade_levels (to enable compatability between your Kilo controller and any Juno compute nodes). | 12:50 |
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| snecklifter | larsks, thanks, i was advised to do this prior to upgrading controller or compute but neglected to do so | 12:51 |
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| larsks | snecklifter: so yes, you can safely do it post-upgrade, and then restart all your nova services. | 12:52 |
| snecklifter | larsks, ok, thanks | 12:52 |
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| Bo7a | Hey folks. I have a strange problem. I spun up 4 instances on the same router. They are all reachable by floating IP from any other machine. But when I try to use their internal IPs each instance can only ssh to one other instance. eg: 1 can ssh to 4 but not to 2 and 3. 2 can ssh to 1 but not 3 or 4. | 13:25 |
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| georgem1 | Bo7a:are instance 1 and 4 running on the same compute node? | 13:33 |
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| Bo7a | georgem1, Sorry. I got yanked into a meeting. I will check now. | 13:45 |
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| Bo7a | georgem1, the ones that can communicate are on the same compute nodes | 13:49 |
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| georgem1 | Bo7a: then you should look at connectivity between your compute nodes (GRE tunnels, VLANs, iptables, etc) | 14:13 |
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| Bo7a | I will ask the network guys to do that. I am just a lowly sysadmin :p Thanks georgem1. | 14:14 |
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| zenpac | Has anyone gotten Ceph(Hammer) and OpenStack(Juno) integrated? We're having problems getting ours going.. | 14:21 |
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| zenpac | We used http://docs.ceph.com/docs/hammer/rbd/rbd-openstack/?highlight=openstack , but manual create of cinder volumes seems to fail. | 14:21 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: yes, all working | 14:23 |
| SamYaple | zenpac: whats cinder-volume complaining about? | 14:24 |
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| zenpac | SamYaple: Not sure, I can't seem to find anything yet in the logs.. I'll re-look..... | 14:24 |
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| zenpac | SamYaple: http://paste.debian.net/317132/ | 14:29 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: you may need to turn on debug. I would always recommend running with it on | 14:30 |
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| zenpac | Ok.. Where is the information in Openstack that says: Ceph is at XYZ Monitors? | 14:32 |
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| zenpac | I don't remember setting that. | 14:32 |
| zenpac | Or seeing it in the docs. | 14:32 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: thats in /etc/ceph/ceph.conf | 14:32 |
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| zenpac | doh! | 14:33 |
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| zenpac | Does the Cluster Network for Ceph have to be on that of OpenStack? | 14:39 |
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| zenpac | Ours is not. | 14:40 |
| zenpac | Public Nets can talk. | 14:40 |
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| zenpac | Qcow2 images not supported. | 14:42 |
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| baker_ | @zenpac | 14:44 |
| baker_ | yes - they need to talk | 14:44 |
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| baker_ | you'll need the storage network on both your compute and controller nodes | 14:45 |
| baker_ | but not the storage replication | 14:45 |
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| baker_ | btw - OpenStack will still be able to boot qcow2 images that are hosted in Ceph, it will just download them and convert them first | 14:46 |
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| baker_ | making for a slower boot time | 14:47 |
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| zenpac | baker_: What is meant by "but not the storage replication" ? | 14:48 |
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| baker_ | @zenpac | 14:49 |
| baker_ | dangit, not sure why I keep doing that. Oh well. | 14:49 |
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| baker_ | The ceph reference architecture has 3 networks | 14:49 |
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| baker_ | Public, Storage, and Storage Replication | 14:50 |
| zenpac | baker_: We just have 2.. | 14:51 |
| baker_ | or at least that's what we call them. looking for the reference architecture now | 14:51 |
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| baker_ | that will work | 14:51 |
| baker_ | just not optimal | 14:51 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: you just need to make sure the compute and api nodes can talk to ceph | 14:53 |
| SamYaple | zenpac: if you want a seperate network for replication traffic, that would be useful but not required | 14:53 |
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| SamYaple | youll want to throttle your replication though | 14:53 |
| zenpac | Ok.. So they CAN communicate via the Public network, but they are not on same Storage net... | 14:54 |
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| zenpac | Storage net = cluster_network in this context. | 14:55 |
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| zenpac | SamYaple: Sounds like i need to remap my Storage network to that of the backend network for OpenStack. | 14:56 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: you should be alright without changing anything | 14:57 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: if /etc/ceph/ceph.conf has your public network addresses and the compute nodes also have public network addresses youll be fine | 14:57 |
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| baker_ | good point @SamYaple | 14:58 |
| zenpac | Ok. This is for a test system, its not for production.. | 14:58 |
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| zenpac | We just want to try to get it working for diagnostics at this point. | 14:59 |
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| zenpac | Is there any Neutron involvement? | 15:08 |
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| SamYaple | no | 15:09 |
| SamYaple | thank god | 15:09 |
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| SamYaple | no | 15:09 |
| zenpac | ok.. .... | 15:09 |
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| zenpac | In ceph , shoujld I be doing "rbd list" to see my OpenStack volumes? | 15:10 |
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| SamYaple | you can | 15:11 |
| SamYaple | youll have to do something like `rbd -p images ls` | 15:11 |
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| zenpac | None found... ok. | 15:13 |
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| SamYaple | there are multiple pools | 15:14 |
| SamYaple | cinder, nova, glance | 15:15 |
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| zenpac | Yes, checked all.. Using nameing convention of Ceph: http://docs.ceph.com/docs/hammer/rbd/rbd-openstack/?highlight=openstack | 15:17 |
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| zenpac | Trying with a raw image now. | 15:25 |
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| zenpac | Something worked.. | 15:31 |
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| zenpac | Created image in OpenStack, and the image was created in Ceph.. | 15:33 |
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| zenpac | in the images pool.. Status is Error in openstack though. | 15:33 |
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| zenpac | But at least that is working. | 15:33 |
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| v1k0d3n | hey all. this is a repeat question, and i'm sorry...i lost my notes on it. i updated my RDO openstack deployment and am getting the django delete cookies issue (after about an hour i have to continually delete cookies). does someone have the fix/link handy? | 16:10 |
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| v1k0d3n | this time i will document internally :) google searching are bringing up too broad of results. i know i needed to modify a file somewhere...sadly, i guess that got over-written in my upgrade. | 16:11 |
| zenpac | We are missing 'disk_cachemodes="network=writeback" ' in nova.conf | 16:12 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: that wont break anything | 16:13 |
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| zenpac | http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/#configure-openstack-to-use-ceph was being referenced. | 16:14 |
| zenpac | SamYaple: Ok.. thanks.. | 16:14 |
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| jidar | Sam-I-Am: I think it was a neutron quota --port | 16:17 |
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| v1k0d3n | is this the same article that fixes the horizon issue i'm talking about? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1218894 | 16:19 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1218894 in python-django-openstack-auth "Horizon: Re login failed after timeout" [High,On_qa] - Assigned to mrunge | 16:19 |
| v1k0d3n | lmao! | 16:19 |
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| zenpac | Is there some way to test my authentication setup in Openstack against Ceph? | 16:39 |
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| SamYaple | zenpac: yea you can auth with the different user keys | 16:50 |
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| SamYaple | if that works (you can list images or something) auth is working | 16:51 |
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| zenpac | For some reason my manual creation of Volume is giving error. I am able to create an image with the raw image, but it didn't create the volume in Ceph. | 16:53 |
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| zenpac | So I have 3 objects in my Ceph:pool:vms: | 17:01 |
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| zenpac | http://paste.debian.net/317157/ whose numbers correspond to the ID of the Instance in Openstack. | 17:01 |
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| zenpac | But Openstack states the Volume of that instance is "None" | 17:02 |
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| RageLtMan | I'm seeing a "Object PUT returning 503 for [503, 503]" on every large image upload through Horizon | 17:24 |
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| RageLtMan | Google says this likely means swift services arent authenticating, but swift list and swift stat work | 17:24 |
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| bradams | can anyone tell me if it's possible to have nova store instances in two different directories, like glance? | 17:26 |
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| SamYaple | RageLtMan: how long does the upload tage? | 17:27 |
| SamYaple | take? | 17:27 |
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| SamYaple | log enough for the token to expire? | 17:27 |
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| RageLtMan | SamYaple, seconds | 17:30 |
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| SamYaple | RageLtMan: and you can do the same put correctly from the command line? | 17:31 |
| RageLtMan | i dont quite understand what the services are doing, but far as i can tell, swift seems to try and handle the download process then push the data in to glance. Looks like some auth in that process is getting screwed up (my wild guess here..) | 17:31 |
| RageLtMan | what do you mean? | 17:32 |
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| RageLtMan | i haven't figured out the CURL api yet | 17:32 |
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| SamYaple | wait i dont follow youre trying to upload to swift or glance? | 17:32 |
| RageLtMan | I'm trying to add images to horizon, i guess thats swift | 17:33 |
| SamYaple | swifti s object storage | 17:33 |
| SamYaple | are you trying to add images to glance to boot instances from? | 17:33 |
| RageLtMan | yes | 17:33 |
| RageLtMan | through horizon, and the errors land in swift. | 17:33 |
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| SamYaple | is your glance backed by swift? | 17:33 |
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| RageLtMan | that part i dont understand, this is a fuel deployment, and they dont really seem to be willing to explain what they did in IRC | 17:34 |
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| RageLtMan | thinking of just going to maas | 17:34 |
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| RageLtMan | i'm very confused about the storage wiring here | 17:34 |
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| SamYaple | i dont know how to help you here | 17:35 |
| RageLtMan | How does someon determine what the storage topology is in terms of service relations | 17:35 |
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| SamYaple | look at teh config files | 17:35 |
| SamYaple | probably the easiest | 17:35 |
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| RageLtMan | Right, except i have no clue what to look for as i dont have a working openstack, just a set of broken fuel deployments :). | 17:35 |
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| RageLtMan | Thanks for trying though :) | 17:36 |
| SamYaple | if you can post your glance config ill look over it | 17:36 |
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| SamYaple | /etc/glance/glance-api.conf | 17:36 |
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| RageLtMan | thank you :) http://pastebin.com/j1rN0ZtV | 17:39 |
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| RageLtMan | Glance and Swift seem to me a bit redundant | 17:39 |
| RageLtMan | not sure why there's an image service when there's an object store and images are not more than objects | 17:40 |
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| SamYaple | RageLtMan: that isn't quite correct | 17:40 |
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| SamYaple | glance does more than store objects | 17:40 |
| RageLtMan | Please enlighten me, my gaps in knowlege here are driving me mad | 17:40 |
| SamYaple | it olso has image metadata and other things | 17:40 |
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| RageLtMan | wouldn't that be image object + MD object? | 17:41 |
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| SamYaple | would openstack just be a bunch of bash scripts and dsh? | 17:41 |
| SamYaple | :P | 17:41 |
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| RageLtMan | so far it kinda feels that way to me :) | 17:42 |
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| RageLtMan | Coming from a standard IT background with XenServer, VMWare, and CloudStack, OpenStack looks very ad-hoc and confusing. | 17:43 |
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| SamYaple | its not _not_ those things :) | 17:43 |
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| RageLtMan | There seem to be competing services and cross-service configuration looks to be the achilles heel. I was under the impression that Mirantis and such had packaged turn-key deployments to learn and test on | 17:43 |
| Bo7a | Does anyone have some good reading for ssh problems between instances on different compute nodes? I had our networking team check switches, vlans, etc, but I still can't ssh on internal IPs between some instances on different compute nodes | 17:44 |
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| Bo7a | the floating IPs, however, all work | 17:44 |
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| SamYaple | RageLtMan: if all you care about is testing on openstack, Kolla works pretty solid for deploying. its an official OpenStack "big tent" project | 17:45 |
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| RageLtMan | SamYaple: are there labs/training materials that incoming engineers can go through? | 17:45 |
| SamYaple | RageLtMan: but what you are experincing is a result of splintering services | 17:45 |
| SamYaple | orignally cinder/glance/neutron all used to be nova | 17:45 |
| RageLtMan | I was trying to test with Fuel because a client showed interest and wanted a corporate backed deployment, but at this point they look worse than a home-rolled chef build | 17:45 |
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| RageLtMan | Oh? Define that | 17:46 |
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| SamYaple | having not used Fuel I cannot comment | 17:46 |
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| SamYaple | well having not set it up | 17:46 |
| RageLtMan | I am looking to actually USE the openstack in our DC, with th purpose of learning and understanding the system as well as hosting our own resources in it | 17:46 |
| RageLtMan | Any thoughts on what's going on with glance-api? | 17:46 |
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| SamYaple | so you have configured glance backed by swift | 17:48 |
| SamYaple | so glance is returning the 503 | 17:48 |
| SamYaple | not sure why | 17:48 |
| RageLtMan | ah | 17:48 |
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| SamYaple | you need to look at the logs | 17:48 |
| SamYaple | it could be a problem with swift | 17:48 |
| RageLtMan | that explains why glance cant upload a local file | 17:48 |
| SamYaple | or not | 17:48 |
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| RageLtMan | Any ips on how i can better expose glance behavior, commands or configurations to use to skyline the backend failure a bit? Anything specific to look for in logs? | 17:49 |
| RageLtMan | tips* | 17:49 |
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| SamYaple | there should be a big ole stack trace in the log for your | 17:50 |
| SamYaple | its hard to miss | 17:50 |
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| visbits | something in the liberty release is preventing my neutron from loading the ml2 plugin, symlink is still good but it loads the openvswitch_agent.ini instead | 18:03 |
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| visbits | Sam-I-Am | 18:03 |
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| bradams | can anyone tell me if it's possible to have nova store instances in two different directories, like glance? | 18:15 |
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| SamYaple | visbits: are you sure you have your configuration correct for the plugin type? | 18:16 |
| visbits | found it | 18:16 |
| visbits | its a packaging bug | 18:16 |
| SamYaple | visbits: the init script? | 18:16 |
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| visbits | but a OVS direct path | 18:16 |
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| visbits | #/usr/lib/systemd/system/neutron-openvswitch-agent.service | 18:16 |
| SamYaple | bradams: i dont know of a way, but the question is how would you distiguish between them? | 18:17 |
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| SamYaple | bradams: with glance you have different stores | 18:17 |
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| bradams | SamYaple: i'm not sure what you mean exactly by "distinguish between them" | 18:18 |
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| bradams | i use a file backend for glance, and have two directories for storing images and snapshots | 18:18 |
| SamYaple | bradams: you literally just want two folders? | 18:18 |
| bradams | yup | 18:18 |
| SamYaple | whats the use-case there (im curious) | 18:19 |
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| bradams | ran out of space on our compute node (small set up) and have space on a SAN | 18:19 |
| SamYaple | ah | 18:20 |
| SamYaple | yea sorry I am not aware of any | 18:20 |
| SamYaple | since libvirt reaches for those files directly, i doubt there is one | 18:20 |
| SamYaple | glance can walk a few directories i suppose | 18:20 |
| bradams | yeah thanks anyway | 18:20 |
| bradams | the only option i see is full migration | 18:20 |
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| SamYaple | yea thats hwat ive always had to do | 18:21 |
| bradams | which i can't really do | 18:21 |
| SamYaple | i did check, but i cant see any options to allow this | 18:21 |
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| bradams | cool, just thought i'd check here too | 18:21 |
| bradams | thanks | 18:21 |
| SamYaple | if you want to get fancy you could throw an overlay on it :) | 18:21 |
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| urthmover | for a new installation ...also new to openstack...which base OS should I choose? I intend on putting it on 3 nodes | 18:29 |
| Bo7a | Bring on the distro war. *gets popcorn* | 18:30 |
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| urthmover | heh :) | 18:30 |
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| Bo7a | I have it installed on ubuntu and a centos lab. | 18:30 |
| Bo7a | the ubuntu installation went more smoothly for me, but I am a debian guy. | 18:30 |
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| urthmover | I'm comfortable on cent and debian....but hate debian less of the time | 18:31 |
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| urthmover | then Bo7a .... have you found that documentation and other things that you've implemented to be reasonable on dibian/ubuntu? or does much of it lean toward RHEL/cent? | 18:32 |
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| Bo7a | i found them very usable for deb/buntu | 18:33 |
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| urthmover | hmm Bo7a well then I'll htrow it up on there for this pilot. | 18:33 |
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| urthmover | Bo7a: Are you running multiple compute nodes? | 18:34 |
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| Bo7a | 12 atm | 18:34 |
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| urthmover | Bo7a: ok cool | 18:34 |
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| Bo7a | if yuo want to migrate specific instancs to specific nodes make sure yu have some shared storage planned | 18:35 |
| Bo7a | I'm running into a hellish time because we only have the shared storage attached to _some_ nodes | 18:35 |
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| urthmover | Bo7a: I'm inside a vmware environment with no direct access to the storage...for NFS/iscsi etc. | 18:36 |
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| urthmover | Bo7a: so would you suggest that I create a separate server with alot of disks....that I then share out...I DO want to move instances between compute nodes | 18:37 |
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| urthmover | share out = present to the openstack install as a storage location....sorry for the lack of names on the different aspects of openstack | 18:38 |
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| UICTamale | hey all | 19:19 |
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| UICTamale | Curious if there's a documented or 'best practice' way to reset all states in an openstack install to "What's actually running on our hypvervisors" | 19:20 |
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| UICTamale | All signs point to our controller and their dbs being 'cooked' | 19:20 |
| UICTamale | not sure how we should move forward - but we don't want to have to scrap all ~120 of our VMs | 19:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | UICTamale: no redundancy/backups ? | 19:21 |
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| UICTamale | the db is healthily sync'd between our two masters | 19:21 |
| UICTamale | but corrupt | 19:22 |
| UICTamale | backups are too old to be useful | 19:22 |
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| UICTamale | our controller keeps throwing errors like: 'The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation.' | 19:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anything in the logs? | 19:23 |
| UICTamale | nope | 19:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is verbose or debug mode on wherever nova-api runs? | 19:25 |
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| UICTamale | not sure, let me enable | 19:26 |
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| UICTamale | might've found something - keystone auth failure | 19:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i was going to say | 19:28 |
| UICTamale | (we tried upgrading from juno to kilo and all hell broke loose) | 19:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that error often points to other things | 19:29 |
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| zenpac | Does this indicate anythhing about the volumes having problems: http://paste.debian.net/317182/ ? | 19:32 |
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| UICTamale | is it possible the upgrade screwed up our service tenant | 19:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it could have screwed up anything | 19:39 |
| UICTamale | haha | 19:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know how you upgraded | 19:39 |
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| UICTamale | http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/upgrading-nova-to-kilo-with-minimal-downtime | 19:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | generally an upgrade doesn't impact things like service tenants, endpoints, etc. | 19:39 |
| UICTamale | err | 19:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | but it can screw up things in your config file | 19:40 |
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| UICTamale | https://chriscowley.me.uk/blog/2015/08/11/upgrade-openstack-from-juno-to-kilo/ is closer to what we followed | 19:40 |
| UICTamale | but we're on ubuntu | 19:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | is keystone itself working? | 19:40 |
| UICTamale | all signs are pointing to no | 19:40 |
| UICTamale | what's a good way to check | 19:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | in juno, you had keystone running, but according to this doc, it stuffs apache in front of keystone | 19:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | what owns ports 5000 and 35357 right now? | 19:41 |
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| UICTamale | yeah apache is listening to 5000 | 19:42 |
| cucumber_ | does anybody have installed Liberty/RDO? | 19:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | and 35357? | 19:42 |
| UICTamale | and 35357 | 19:42 |
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| cucumber_ | I tried to use testing repos, but no luck | 19:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | cucumber_: nope, its not really official yet | 19:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think release packages are due next week | 19:43 |
| cucumber_ | http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-liberty/current-passed-ci/delorean.repo and http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-liberty/delorean-deps.repo | 19:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | but there's no liberty packages for fedora anymore | 19:43 |
| cucumber_ | yes, but I wanted to install at least the testing version... | 19:43 |
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| cucumber_ | when I try to install it gives me a ERROR 404 :( | 19:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | cucumber_: http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/openstack-liberty/ | 19:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | try those | 19:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they cant figure out where to put packages it seems | 19:44 |
| larsks | cucumber_: for questions about delorean/rdo/etc, #rdo is also a good place to ask... | 19:44 |
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| cucumber_ | larsks, ok, sorry | 19:44 |
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| cucumber_ | btw, what is delorian? | 19:45 |
| cucumber_ | besides the back to the future car? | 19:45 |
| larsks | delorian is a collection of packages that are built regularly from openstack trunk (i.e., the head of the various openstack repositories) | 19:45 |
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| cucumber_ | larsks, ok, thank you... I'll ask in #rdo | 19:46 |
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| ifur | so... keepalived, really guys? | 19:46 |
| * larsks cannot tell if that was a question. | 19:46 | |
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| ifur | i genuinely would liek to know why, but yeah... | 19:47 |
| SamYaple | whats wrong with keepalived? | 19:47 |
| ifur | its deprecated by corosync | 19:47 |
| larsks | ifur: also, not exactly an openstack project... | 19:47 |
| SamYaple | i wouldnt say deprecated... | 19:47 |
| larsks | But it certainly has it's warts...as does everything else :). | 19:47 |
| ifur | everyone else would im afraid :) | 19:48 |
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| larsks | ifur: well, that's not true, either. There are a lot of people using keepalived rather than a corosync based solution. | 19:48 |
| larsks | I'm not saying either is better, but it's hardly deprecated. | 19:48 |
| SamYaple | i dont particually like corosync to be honest | 19:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's only one place keepalived really applies to openstack, and thats l3ha using vrrp | 19:48 |
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| ifur | larsks: so i was rethorical earlier, but now you are doing the same... | 19:49 |
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| larsks | ifur: Huh? | 19:49 |
| ifur | keepalived is depreacted, nobody should be using it -- there are plenty of rants around explaining why | 19:49 |
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| zenpac | Can packstack be used to install Kilo on multi-host? | 19:49 |
| ifur | the fact that a lot of people do use it, including openstack doesnt actually argue anything different | 19:50 |
| larsks | ifur: I'm sure. Anyway, next topic... | 19:50 |
| * larsks gets coffee. | 19:50 | |
| SamYaple | flame on! | 19:50 |
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| ifur | larsks: interesting that comercial openstack solutions have keeplived stripped out and replaced with corosync tho, isnt it? :) | 19:55 |
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| ifur | SamYaple: now you can flame on -- while i lean because im tood old for this :) | 19:55 |
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| UICTamale | so, turned up the logging on keystone, and we see some questionably useful stuff about auth but we still see the same error in the apache logs without any additional info... "Recoverable error: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) " | 19:55 |
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| UICTamale | this is when we try to make a new instance, FYI | 19:56 |
| UICTamale | no errors though | 19:56 |
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| SamYaple | UICTamale: are you saying keystone logs have 500 errors? or thats what nova returns? | 19:58 |
| UICTamale | the apache logs show a 500 | 19:58 |
| UICTamale | I think I finally found a useful error in nova.api.opentack | 19:58 |
| UICTamale | I'll pastebin it | 19:58 |
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| UICTamale | http://paste.openstack.org/show/476904/ | 19:59 |
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| SamYaple | UICTamale: oh yea ive seen that | 20:01 |
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| UICTamale | omg we're all so exited right now | 20:01 |
| SamYaple | bad version of requests library i think... | 20:01 |
| UICTamale | !!! | 20:01 |
| openstack | UICTamale: Error: "!!" is not a valid command. | 20:01 |
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| SamYaple | what version of python0requests are you running? | 20:02 |
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| UICTamale | # pip freeze | grep requests | 20:02 |
| UICTamale | requests==2.8.1 | 20:02 |
| SamYaple | i think 2.8.0 is a bad version | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | let me check, if you want a quick test just downgrade it real quick | 20:03 |
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| UICTamale | how far back? | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | 2.7.x was good im pretty sure | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | UICTamale: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L182 | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | yea 2.8.0 is blacklisted | 20:04 |
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| SamYaple | im not sure if 2.8.1 should also be | 20:04 |
| UICTamale | maybe | 20:04 |
| UICTamale | we just went back to 2.7.0 | 20:04 |
| UICTamale | gonna try again | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | make sure to restart teh services | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | actually nvm | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | thats calling the client | 20:04 |
| SamYaple | so you _should_ be ok | 20:05 |
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| UICTamale | we're restarting anyway | 20:06 |
| SamYaple | do it | 20:06 |
| SamYaple | UICTamale: found the bug! https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1476770 | 20:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476770 in openstack-ansible "_translate_from_glance fails with "AttributeError: id" in grenade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jesse Pretorius (jesse-pretorius) | 20:07 |
| UICTamale | thanks man, that worked | 20:07 |
| SamYaple | so youre saying 2.8.1 is also affected | 20:08 |
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| UICTamale | yes | 20:08 |
| UICTamale | definitely | 20:08 |
| UICTamale | 2.7.0 worked though | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | alright ill submit a patch to block | 20:08 |
| UICTamale | thanks so much | 20:08 |
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| UICTamale | can you block everything after 2.7.0 for now? | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | no they dont do that anymore | 20:09 |
| SamYaple | this is why they have uppser-constraints file | 20:09 |
| SamYaple | how are you installing this? | 20:09 |
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| UICTamale | apt? | 20:10 |
| UICTamale | not sure what you mean | 20:10 |
| SamYaple | openstack | 20:10 |
| SamYaple | how are you installing openstack | 20:10 |
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| UICTamale | apt-get install nova... | 20:11 |
| SamYaple | hmm that shouldnt have pulled in such a new version of requests | 20:11 |
| SamYaple | did you pip install the openstack clients by any chance? | 20:11 |
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| UICTamale | Trying to ask the rest of the team here | 20:12 |
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| UICTamale | we've been pretty furiously doing things to try to fix this | 20:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | sometimes that causes more problems | 20:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | pip vs. packages can get messy | 20:13 |
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| UICTamale | indeed. | 20:13 |
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| SamYaple | UICTamale: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237766/ | 20:17 |
| SamYaple | im not sure this is the right way to go about this | 20:17 |
| SamYaple | preferably i would fix the glance client | 20:17 |
| SamYaple | for all i know they already have... | 20:17 |
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| SamYaple | odyssey4me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1476770 is that all fixed up? | 20:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476770 in openstack-ansible "_translate_from_glance fails with "AttributeError: id" in grenade" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jesse Pretorius (jesse-pretorius) | 20:18 |
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| UICTamale | thanks for filing that, Sam | 20:18 |
| SamYaple | UICTamale: no problem. be careful though it sounds like you are mixing dependencies. that may cause you more problems down the road | 20:19 |
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| SamYaple | you shouldnt be installing via pip if you installed openstack via apt | 20:19 |
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| jussb | SamYaple: When we started things up after apt install several deps were missing and needed to be manually installed with pip | 20:20 |
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| SamYaple | jussb: which version of openstack? | 20:20 |
| jussb | 1:2015.1.1-0ubuntu1~cloud2 | 20:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent seen ubuntu packages missing deps before | 20:21 |
| SamYaple | i havent either | 20:21 |
| SamYaple | maybe if you installed with --no-install-recommends | 20:21 |
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| jussb | nope, just regular apt-get install | 20:22 |
| UICTamale | we didn't install any pip packages manually except one that was missed | 20:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | except pip would also install dependencies | 20:22 |
| SamYaple | well it would only install deps that were missing | 20:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | usually they're all stuffed in /usr/local so theoretically you could remove them | 20:23 |
| SamYaple | or needed to be updated due to constraints | 20:23 |
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| jussb | That was our experience. Several things wouldn't start after we ran the install | 20:25 |
| jussb | Due to missing python deps, not configuration etc | 20:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats unusual | 20:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've installed 100s of times with the ubuntu packages and never ran into those issues except with pre-release packages | 20:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wonder what was going on | 20:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you install by hand or with some sort of deployment tool? | 20:28 |
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| jussb | apt-get | 20:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | assuming this is your problem, i'd try to eliminate the extra pip stuff... or compare what you had to install with pip with what the packages supposedly installed | 20:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | j^2: does it work? | 20:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hey, do we know that guy? | 20:39 |
| j^2 | Sam-I-Am: yep! Well everything up to where we left it off, I’m trying to create the networking stuff with vmware right now, I don’t have access to hardware to confirm confirm. I should _soon_ though | 20:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | j^2: cool | 20:39 |
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| UICTamale | Still can't make instances - we're getting more specific errors now though: | 20:50 |
| UICTamale | 2015-10-20 15:47:48.008 14754 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 0278826c-7325-43ad-b87a-58ca72650de2] BuildAbortException: Build of instance 0278826c-7325-43ad-b87a-58ca72650de2 aborted: Failed to allocate the network(s), not rescheduling. | 20:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | usingn neutron? | 20:51 |
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| UICTamale | 'nova-network' I think | 20:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, then i dunno :/ | 20:51 |
| UICTamale | should we be using neutron? | 20:51 |
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| jussb | Yep, not neutron. In particular looks like it bubbled up due to some db error : http://paste.openstack.org/show/476913/ | 20:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did you upgrade the db when upgrading nova? | 20:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and restart all the things? | 20:53 |
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| UICTamale | running the migrations crashed mysql | 20:54 |
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| UICTamale | that was part of the problem :[ | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | ew | 20:54 |
| jussb | yes, we ran the db sync | 20:54 |
| UICTamale | so we had to upgrade mysql | 20:54 |
| jussb | yep :) | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | ick | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, who knows whats up at this point | 20:54 |
| UICTamale | you can imagine how the feelings are on openstack for us at the moment....... | 20:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont think you can blame this on openstack | 20:55 |
| UICTamale | BUT - things are better now than they were a few hours ago | 20:55 |
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| UICTamale | nah, we definitely flew too fast and loose with our upgrade | 20:57 |
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| UICTamale | just want to understand how to get back to a good state | 20:57 |
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| Jake___ | Hi | 20:58 |
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| Jake___ | Hi | 20:59 |
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| SamYaple | UICTamale: i dont know that you were ever IN a good state | 21:04 |
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| SamYaple | that makes it more difficult | 21:04 |
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| UICTamale | good point. | 21:05 |
| UICTamale | things were mostly working up until about a week ago | 21:06 |
| UICTamale | on juno | 21:06 |
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| SamYaple | UICTamale: what is your base distro? | 21:09 |
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| UICTamale | 14.04 lts | 21:10 |
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| jwitko | SamYaple do you know if I disable a hypervisor under the "Admin --> Hypervisors --> Compute Host" tab clicking the "Disable service" button will this leave current VMs working without issue and will just disable provisioning new VMs to those hosts? | 21:35 |
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| SamYaple | jwitko: yea thats what it will do | 21:36 |
| SamYaple | jwitko: you may also not be able to do certain actions if i rememebr correctly.. | 21:36 |
| SamYaple | let me test that real quick | 21:37 |
| jwitko | thanks | 21:37 |
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| jwitko | but to confirm ,it won't impact any VM operations correct? like whats going on 'inside' the VM? | 21:37 |
| SamYaple | jwitko: no disabling nova-compute doesnt even kill the service | 21:37 |
| SamYaple | its still alive ad talking with rabbitmq | 21:37 |
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| UICTamale | would you recommend switching from rabbitmq to 0mq? | 21:38 |
| SamYaple | UICTamale: nope | 21:39 |
| SamYaple | stick with rabbitmq | 21:39 |
| UICTamale | ok | 21:39 |
| SamYaple | as far as i know zeromq isnt even maintained anymore | 21:39 |
| SamYaple | if i remember the guy that wrote it said he was done with it | 21:39 |
| UICTamale | yikes ok | 21:39 |
| SamYaple | i mean the openstack integration part | 21:40 |
| SamYaple | zeromq is just fine i believe | 21:40 |
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| UICTamale | right I gotcha | 21:41 |
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| evilrob | oh it's painful... we run our own openstack clusters, and at the same time are customers of a group internally who runs one for us. I can tell them what is wrong, and what command to run to fix it, but they won't make me an admin on it so I'm SOL. | 22:14 |
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| ds_ | glance image-list tells me Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials someone any thoughts? | 22:18 |
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| UICTamale | Found a specific error again: Instance disappeared during build. _do_build_and_run_instance /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/compute/manager.py | 22:35 |
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| gonzalo2kx | history | 23:10 |
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| jwitko | hey SamYaple, still around? | 23:49 |
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| jwitko | I used heat to spin up an instance via volume snapshot onto my SAN | 23:50 |
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| jwitko | then I created two more volumes and attached to said instance | 23:50 |
| jwitko | everything looks great from openstacks point of view, but the volumes are not found in their reported locations on the instance | 23:50 |
| jwitko | /dev/vdb, /dev/vdc | 23:50 |
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| SamYaple | jwitko: yea those arent assured to line up | 23:55 |
| jwitko | SamYaple, oh ok.. they're specified in the heat template | 23:55 |
| jwitko | but that being said | 23:55 |
| jwitko | there are simply no extra disks | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | i think xen can make sure they do but libvirt has no functionality i think | 23:55 |
| SamYaple | i cant recall | 23:55 |
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| SamYaple | can you attach a disk by hand with volume-attach? | 23:55 |
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| jwitko | Yes | 23:56 |
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| jwitko | the disks show as attached to the instance | 23:56 |
| jwitko | i'm wondering if its because its CentOS 5.2 VM? | 23:56 |
| jwitko | (don't ask why I am using such an old OS please.) | 23:56 |
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