Monday, 2015-11-09

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pryordaHey Guys00:37
pryordaHaving trouble getting the dhcp leases on the "public" network00:37
pryordaI see the dhcp discover on the tap interface on the controller00:37
pryordabut Its not responsding00:37
pryordaany ideas00:37
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PavoAnyone here using Cloudify?00:55
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thetravanyone familiar with rsync: failed to create pid file /var/run/rsync-debian.pid: File exists as an error?03:05
yuppiehow2learn openstack03:07
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Pavoanyone here ever use Cloudify?03:44
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saibarspeisDoes anyone have a clue how to force-delete an instance which is in task_state: deleting and vm_state: active in juno ?08:32
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saibarspeisnova force-delete <ID> does not work, it sais can't force_delete an instance while in this state.08:32
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zerdasaibarspeis, nova reset-state before delete might help, but I can't guarantee it08:37
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saibarspeisI did08:37
saibarspeisAnd I used force-delete08:38
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saibarspeisFinally I went into the compute, virsh destroy <domain>08:38
saibarspeisBack to the controller and force-delete works08:38
zerdado you have the corresponding nova-compute online?08:38
saibarspeisYes it was fine08:38
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saibarspeisThank you08:39
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Muntanerhello to everyone. I have a problem in my openstack all-in-one installation. I had to reboot the machine, and now VMs don't have internet. I can't ping openstack routers on my subnet (192.168.0.0/24), but they can ping each other (tried via netns). I don't have errors in my neutron services, agents, or nova stuff10:02
MuntanerI can't understand how to investigate10:02
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Muntanerbtw, the routers have in their route my gateway (192.168.0.1), but they can't ping it10:02
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Muntanerfixed it by rebooting all neutron services. Quite strage, I had no errors in my logs, so this was just luck10:14
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olivaHi all, on my kilo test installation the dhcp client on instance can't get any IP address unless I don't explicitely trust the corresponding tap device on the guest os operating system firewall. This trust is not needed for the subsequent use of the network, once the IP have been acquired. This problem prevent new instances to get an IP at boot. Anybody have an idea about the issue?11:05
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olivaSorry I need to allow the qbr device not the tap11:08
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wootehfootHello openstack! Any news on this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/resource-optimization-service or a similar feature?12:33
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ftcoHi every bode. I created a router by admin user, is it possible to share it between other tenants?12:51
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ftcoHi every body. I created a router by admin user, is it possible to share it between other tenants?12:53
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ftcoHi every body. I created a router by admin user, is it possible to share it between other tenants?13:21
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rmart04Hi, Can anyone tell me how L3 HA with virtual routers distributed across two nodes is supposed to interact with the metadata proxy on the first node?13:38
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SamYaplermart04: you only have the metadata agent on the first node is what you are saying?13:47
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rmart04I started there, as that seems to be what the docs suggest, then run pacemaker on top, however... assaf mullers blog suggested putting it on each node. So I have just given that a bash and it seems to be working!13:49
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SamYaplermart04: right youll want metadata on all nodes13:50
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SamYapleL3HA just works with keepalived passing around a vip13:51
SamYapleso whatever node that VIP is on should have access to the metadata server13:51
rmart04Perfect! Much easier! I believe you've given me advice before. Always appreciate the help!13:51
SamYapleby default thats going to be a socket, and if its a socket it needs to be local (or you have to do fun stuff with xinetd or similiar)13:51
SamYapleits what were here for13:52
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DiplomatAnyone has any experience with Designate ?13:52
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SamYaplehello Diplomat13:52
DiplomatSup man13:53
SamYapleI know of it and have had it running13:53
rmart04Good news! thanks!13:53
SamYaplethats the limit of my expierence13:53
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Diplomatah sweet.. I'm thinking about installing it for my stuff and I was wondering like.. do I just install it in a VM and that's it? or it can be controlled from the controller node too and or use ceilometer?13:53
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SamYapleits just another service that runs, where you run it doesn't really matter13:55
SamYapleit doesn't require ceilometer13:55
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DiplomatBut can I use ceilometer with it +13:55
Diplomat?13:55
DiplomatMaybe monitor queries etc13:55
SamYaplemaybe?13:55
SamYaplei would say probably13:55
DiplomatHmm.. interesting13:55
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DiplomatGotta love that API for it.. it's exactly what I needed :D13:56
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Diplomatnow I have to figure out how to transfer all my existing zones into it13:56
SamYapleyea it looks like it reports, but i dont know what it reports13:56
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SamYaplefyi they just did a new revision of the API13:57
SamYapleand almost 100% of the actual API are different13:57
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SamYaplekeep that in mind13:57
SamYapleif you call them directly13:57
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DiplomatAh.. gotta research it then. But.. when I set up 5 powerdns servers.. it syncs automatically all changes, right?13:58
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SamYaple..... sure why not13:59
Diplomat#ballin13:59
SamYaplei really don't know :)13:59
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DiplomatI'm going to move all internal routing stuff to DNS now :P it's much easier and faster that way14:00
Diplomatand more reliable too14:00
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Sam-I-Ammoo.14:18
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DiplomatMooo.. nday?14:28
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Sam-I-Amyeah, its monday14:32
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ocIs there a Liberty backports repository available for Debian Jessie?14:51
ocgoogle results => 40414:51
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SamYapleoc: cloud-archive might work for you14:54
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Sam-I-Amthere should be14:54
Sam-I-Amc-a only works for ubuntu14:54
ocbleh ubuntu14:54
SamYapleSam-I-Am: who is maintaing that?14:54
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Sam-I-AmSamYaple: zigo?14:55
Sam-I-Amor c-a?14:55
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: the backports for debian14:56
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zigooc: Yes, there is.14:57
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Sam-I-Am^ this guy14:57
zigodeb http://liberty-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com/debian jessie-liberty-backports main14:57
zigodeb-src http://liberty-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com/debian jessie-liberty-backports main14:57
zigodeb http://liberty-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com/debian jessie-liberty-backports-nochange main14:57
zigodeb-src http://liberty-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com/debian jessie-liberty-backports-nochange main14:57
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octhanks zigo! :)14:57
zigoIt's not yet uploaded to Jessie official backports, but I will as soon as the packages reach testing.14:57
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zigooc: Otherwise, there's Kilo in the official jessie-backports.14:58
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Bo7aI am losing my mind. I have a clister that I inherited and one of the tenant's name/id has a space in it. This break my CLI workflow. I have tried escaping the space with a \ and surrounding the id in quotes. neither works.15:14
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Bo7awhat should I do?15:15
Bo7acluster* not clister :p15:15
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DiplomatMaybe you can rename it somehow?15:19
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larsksBo7a: sounds like it might be a basic shell scripting issue.  Can you share a failed command?15:22
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Bo7aopenstack@maas-1:~$ neutron quota-show --tenant-id Quality\ Assurance15:23
Bo7aMalformed request body: Cannot understand JSON15:23
Bo7aopenstack@maas-1:~$ neutron quota-show --tenant-id "Quality Assurance"15:23
Bo7aMalformed request body: Cannot understand JSON15:23
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Bo7aAll good. I am removing that tenant anyway. They have nothing that will be lost by changing.15:24
Sam-I-Amwell, tenant-id is a number15:24
Sam-I-Amwell, uuid15:25
Bo7anot in this case :p15:25
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Sam-I-Am-name is usually the name15:25
Bo7a ->openstack project list15:25
Bo7aPassword:15:25
Bo7a+----------------------------------+-------------------+15:25
Bo7a| ID                               | Name              |15:25
Bo7a+----------------------------------+-------------------+15:25
Bo7a| Systems                          | Systems           |15:25
Bo7a| 9ca6d8c9ed9b44c3b6b5cf59dd6c28f9 | services          |15:25
Bo7a| admin                            | admin             |15:25
Bo7a| Quality Assurance                | Quality Assurance |15:25
Bo7a| Development                      | Development       |15:25
Bo7a| Security                         | Security          |15:25
Bo7a+----------------------------------+-------------------+15:25
Bo7asee :p15:25
stupidnicsigh15:25
Bo7amany sigh15:25
Bo7aI am so tired of finding things the guys did wrong when they built this. I am hoping to get to re-deploy from scratch15:26
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Sam-I-Amhow the hell?15:26
Sam-I-Amthats unpossible15:26
Bo7alol15:26
Sam-I-Amprobably edited the db directly or something15:27
Bo7aI have found a few dozen unpossible situations in this deployment15:27
Sam-I-Amsurprised that even works15:27
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Sam-I-Ammight need to play dba a bit there15:27
Sam-I-Amor just burn the whole thing down :)15:27
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stupidnicSomebody directly manipulating the DB via SQL I think15:27
Bo7ayeah. I'll just scrap the whole tenant (if it will delete with the space in it) :p15:27
Bo7aI am making the proposal today to burn it down and start over15:27
stupidnicthat's the only way I can think that would occur15:27
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Bo7ait started as somebody's personal learning lab with 3 nodes and no has taken over a full rack and has some serious horsepower15:28
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Bo7awhich then allowed people to actually use it. and now the little fuckups in the original install are coming to light15:28
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Bo7aI'd like to rebuild everything except the maas server and get a clean slate15:29
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Sam-I-Amlabs sadly move into production more than you think15:29
stupidnicYep15:29
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stupidnicWe are in the process of deploying a greenfield implementation of Liberty to replace the "closed beta" project with about 100 customers on it15:29
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Bo7anot more than I thnk personally :p This year alone my PoC for a hadoop cluster and ELK went from lab to poc to production in one minute when the CTO saw what it could do15:29
Sam-I-Amevery now and then we get someone in a panic here who had a sudden catastrophic failure of production systems and find out fun stuff like non-uuid tenant ids :/15:30
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Bo7alol Sam15:30
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Sam-I-Amsometimes including 'i'll get fired if i cant fix this;15:30
Bo7alol15:30
Sam-I-Amand it turns out they've never learned openstack... just used some deployment tool15:30
Bo7amy threat would be 'i'll quit if you don't let me fix this properly now'15:30
Sam-I-Amha15:31
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DiplomatHm.. So I'm adding a new object storage node, but I get this: mount: mount point /srv/node/sdb does not exist16:46
Diplomatyes I added everything into fstab16:46
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DiplomatNot sure what's wrong there16:46
DiplomatMaybe I should restart or something ?16:46
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Sam-I-Amdoes the dir exist?16:50
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Diplomat./srv exists.. node doesnt exist16:56
Diplomatso I created it and um.. yea, still gives me that error16:56
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Diplomatwhen I created /srv/node/sdb <-- whole dir structure then it worked16:57
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Diplomatow.. hohoho, I forgot -p :D16:59
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DiplomatHehe, you know.. it's always easier to start whining first and then check wtf you did wrong :P17:06
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Bo7aI find when I start whining I usually try to think of how I would make fun of myself.17:06
Bo7aThat usually leads to remembering something I did that was stupid17:06
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Diplomatlol17:09
DiplomatWell, looks like I messed up zones of the ring builder :(17:09
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DiplomatUsed --region 1 --zone 1 for all of my discs17:10
Diplomatis that bad ? :D17:10
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Sam-I-Amiirc you should use different zones, but 1 region is ok17:32
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Bo7aHere comes the dumbest question of the day. When deploying multiple instances at once via horizon can I set the serial of the instance to a specific position in the name? eg I would liket o spawn 4 instances called foo-$serial-rdlab.dv where $serial would be 1 to 417:34
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Bo7aconversely. Could I specify the hostname of the created instances to add the domain to the hostname and not worry about the serial at all?17:35
DiplomatIt would be easier to do it via cli17:35
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Bo7aHmm. Thanks Diplomat. I am very comfortable in the cli but some folks would be completely lost. And this request comes from one of those.17:36
DiplomatAh.. I feel you17:36
DiplomatThose people with special requests..17:36
Diplomatspecial people17:36
DiplomatI'm half braindead here already today because of those special people :D17:37
Bo7ahaha17:37
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jwitkoSam-I-Am, question for you.  On an openstack cluster using provider networking with 20 compute nodes split across 2 chassis what would you expect ping times to be between two VMs ?19:16
jwitko10G network19:16
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kbringardwith provider networks, I'd expect it to be similar to physical network19:24
kbringardif it's > 20 ms something seems wrong19:24
kbringardjwitko: ^^19:24
kbringardeven with all the overhead of logical routers and per-tenant subnets it shouldn't be *that* much more19:25
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pilotbrianyone here deploy with maas and landscape?19:38
pilotbriwho can lend some assistance?19:38
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varesaI can't get my nova instances to resolve external host names19:39
varesaI've set "dnsmasq_dns_servers =192.168.0.201" in /etc/neutron/dhcp_agent.ini19:40
varesaI can ping e.g. host-...openstacklocal but not www.google.com19:41
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lothSam-I-Am: is there any special database sync commands that need to be ran pre-upgrade from juno to kilo?19:50
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lothon neutron19:51
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olivaHi all, on my kilo test installation the dhcp client on instance can't get any IP address unless I don't explicitely trust the corresponding tap device on the guest os operating system firewall. This trust is not needed for the subsequent use of the network, once the IP have been acquired. This problem prevent new instances to get an IP at boot. Anybody have an idea about the issue?19:55
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larsksloth: typically, you run database sync commands *post*-upgrade.20:27
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pilotbrianyone here deploy openstack with maas and landscape?20:58
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Bo7amaas yes, landscape no.21:00
Bo7aan oh man is maas nice for this stuff21:01
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pilotbriyah, if I could just get it all to work21:01
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erick0zcr_Hello! I've been trying openstack for a while in testing environments. I was wondering, what is the best release of Openstack for production right now?22:19
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larskserick0zcr_: Generally, you want the latest release, although if you're using it in production you may want to factor in what sort of support you can get from your favorite vendor...22:31
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erick0zcr_larsks: mmm, someone said to me that it wasn't a good idea to use the latest release, that's what I asked. But thank you and I thing it's logical, the latest versions have security support22:35
erick0zcr_*think22:35
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Bart_openstackHi - anyone here from the Application Ecosystem Working Group?22:44
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pilotbrianyone here use maas/landscape/juju for deployment?22:56
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Sam-I-Amloth: not pre-upgrade22:59
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lothSam-I-Am: just neutron-db-manage upgrade and stamp?23:04
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Sam-I-Amwell, usually it needs to be a stamped version before the upgrade23:05
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lothDo i need to re-stamp if i show "544673ac99ab -> juno (head), juno" as current?23:07
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Sam-I-Amlooks like you're at juno, so you should just need to upgrade23:08
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john5223Can i setup neutron so my instance gets public ip by default, and then i can attach a floating ip from a private network?23:08
Sam-I-Amjohn5223: only if the instance has two interfaces23:09
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john5223how would i do that? i've setup kilo neutron networking so the instance is on a private network with a router thats attached to ext network as a gateway. But thats burning a public ip on the router23:14
john5223instead i want the instance to get a public ip by default, and then option of creating private network23:15
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Sam-I-Amso you want provider networking23:15
Sam-I-Amwith an option to use private networks23:15
john5223yea23:15
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Sam-I-Amif you dont connect a private network to a gateway, it doesnt burn an ip23:16
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Sam-I-Amhow did you install this?23:16
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john5223kilo install guide : http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_basic_environment.html#basics-networking-neutron23:18
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john5223so i have management interface and tunnel interface on compute23:19
Sam-I-Amfor kilo, the install guide didnt explicitly support provider networks. however, you can modify the config to do so if your provider/public network is directly attached to each compute node23:19
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john5223and so if my NIC goes directly to provider network i dont have private networking anymore right?23:20
john5223but if i got another NIC i could do both?23:20
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Sam-I-Amyou just need another interface on the compute node that is on the same network as 'br-ex' on the network node23:22
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john5223gotcha. thanks23:23
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