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evilrob | I'm going to strangle someone in our internal openstack group. One of my guys can't log into horizon, so he tries 4 different browsers, 3 incognito modes, clearing cache and cookies across the board. Opens an internal help ticket, they tell him to do everything he just did. He tells them "tried it, same result". They escalate to "the next level of support" (i.e. 'smart people' (tm)). 3 hours later they tell him to try | 00:49 |
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evilrob | a different browser, clear his cache, clear his cookies. | 00:49 |
* evilrob needs a drink. | 00:50 | |
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loth | Sam-I-Am: have you seen any issues with neutron/vxlan with kernel 4.3.0? | 00:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: havent tried anything that new | 01:05 |
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loth | Sam-I-Am: just ran into the same problem but just after updating and rebooting the network nodes, not upgrading to kilo | 01:07 |
loth | all floating ips not pingable | 01:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | what distro runs a kernel that new? | 01:10 |
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loth | kernel-ml from elrepo | 01:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | on cent? | 01:12 |
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loth | yeah | 01:14 |
loth | not sure if its that though, went back and still not working | 01:14 |
Sam-I-Am | well, fips are usually not vxlan | 01:14 |
Sam-I-Am | can you ping the router's gw ip? | 01:15 |
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loth | yeah | 01:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | have you traced where pings to fips stop? | 01:19 |
Sam-I-Am | is it at the vxlan tunnel? | 01:19 |
loth | I do see a "WARNING oslo.messaging._drivers.amqpdriver [-] No calling threads waiting for msg_id : 204f81ec33d94005b2e02d199e1183ba, message :" which seems to list a ton of stuff | 01:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | in where? | 01:19 |
loth | The l3 agent log | 01:20 |
Sam-I-Am | eeeooo | 01:20 |
Sam-I-Am | did anything else besides the kernel get updated? | 01:20 |
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loth | Think i fixed it, restarted l3-agent by itself and diddnt have that warning | 01:38 |
loth | previously i did everything neutron related | 01:39 |
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loth | Sam-I-Am: have you seen anything like that? | 01:43 |
loth | rabbit gets overloaded with connections maybe? | 01:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: rabbit can, but not unless your deployment is rather big | 01:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: so updating the kernel, reboot... left your system with this fip problem? | 02:00 |
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loth_ | Sam-I-Am, define big? | 02:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth_: probably a few dozen nodes? | 02:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | what version of rabbit are you using? | 02:57 |
loth_ | this one has.. 48 nodes | 02:57 |
Sam-I-Am | it has improved a bit | 02:57 |
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loth_ | hmm.. 3.3.5 rabbitmq version | 02:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats about a year old | 03:00 |
Sam-I-Am | trying to figure out if your problems are caused by rabbitmq, or something else? | 03:01 |
Sam-I-Am | or maybe a strange interaction of things? | 03:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | if it was upgrade kernel -> reboot -> l3 agent funky stuff -> restart l3 agent -> ok | 03:01 |
Sam-I-Am | then why didnt the l3 agent come back ok after the reboot | 03:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | assuming this is all the same ver of openstack | 03:02 |
Sam-I-Am | brb | 03:02 |
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loth_ | Sam-I-Am, l3 agent log exerpt; http://pb.ubiquity.io/74 | 03:03 |
loth_ | the first line there is cut heavily, the real line is... 88,778 chars long | 03:03 |
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loth_ | It seems as if i restart all neuton services at once the l3 agent will fail, but if i restart the l3 agent after all the others are up it seems to work | 03:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | neutron does put a lot of pressure on rabbit | 03:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | how many agents do you have? | 03:18 |
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loth | ovs agents? one for each compute node | 03:19 |
loth | plus the controllers, so around 50 | 03:19 |
Sam-I-Am | how many rabbit nodes? | 03:21 |
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loth | this one only has one, moving to 4 | 03:38 |
Sam-I-Am | that could be a problem | 03:39 |
Sam-I-Am | (only one) | 03:39 |
loth | however afaik even if you have multiples openstack still chooses the first? | 03:39 |
loth | for rabbitnode1, rabbitnode2, etc in the configuration files | 03:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | in active-active i think they're chosen randomly and the queues are sync'd, but rabbit is not my thing | 03:40 |
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loth | is there some recommendation to openstack nodes to rabbit servers? | 03:50 |
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aidan-_ | is there any way to see network/cpu/memory/etc usage in horizon? | 04:15 |
aidan-_ | or rather, to let an end user see these statistics? | 04:16 |
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placeed | Hi all, I have random keystone crash witouth error log. Someone can help me to troubleshoot ? | 08:34 |
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placeed | It look like the keystone hang ... Last keystone admin.log are 2015-11-10 09:38:00.893 9524 INFO keystone.common.wsgi [-] POST /auth/tokens? and stay blocked on this | 08:38 |
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placeed | my version is Kilo and this is my configuration http://paste.ofcode.org/ZTEYcKMWduJVQ4CmTH4m4y | 08:47 |
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aidan-_ | placeed: does it work and then eventually crash? | 08:53 |
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placeed | aidan-_ now it's crashed | 08:55 |
placeed | This is the logs files http://paste.ofcode.org/THFSmeyaujR2ieBXtLevvv | 08:55 |
placeed | It stay block like that | 08:55 |
aidan-_ | is the database locking up/losing connection? | 08:55 |
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placeed | aidan-_ nop, database is up and running ... I use it for other system witouth problem | 08:57 |
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placeed | Actually it's an external database ... I need to try with a local database ? | 09:01 |
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placeed | Cortex2work | 09:02 |
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adun153 | I know I can create a network and "attach" a subnet to it with the neutron CLI tool, but how do I do that with the openstack CLI tool? I know "openstack network create <name>", but can't seem to figure out how to create/attach a subnet to it. | 09:04 |
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manous | hello how can i use kilo to provision docker instance ? | 09:56 |
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Diplomat | Hey guys any ideas.. My servers were moved to a new rack and a new vlan and now for some reason working is not working anymore and I really have no idea how to start debugging it. neutron agent-list shows that everything is good | 11:36 |
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Diplomat | Also VM gets an IPv6 but not ipv4 | 11:38 |
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Diplomat | VM says "unable to obtain ipv4 dhcp address eth0" | 11:42 |
Diplomat | but DHCP agent | controller | :-) | True | 11:42 |
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Diplomat | Also I can't ping my vm IP's gateway | 11:51 |
Diplomat | from VM | 11:51 |
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Diplomat | but I can ping it from the host | 11:51 |
Diplomat | Hmn.. when I do ip netns exec qdhcp-510c641b-f860-4957-862c-90dda956e24c ifconfig | 11:52 |
Diplomat | It doesn't show my VMs IP.. it shows one a bit different one | 11:52 |
Diplomat | from another subnet | 11:53 |
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davidsha | Diplomat: I assume if it was moved you unstacked and stacked again? | 12:00 |
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Diplomat | um no i didnt do anything | 12:01 |
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davidsha | Diplomat: did the IP address of the servers get changed? | 12:01 |
Diplomat | noo.. it still shows the old one, but that ifconfig command shows xxx.xxx.191.91 not xxx.xxx.191.93 | 12:02 |
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Diplomat | also it shows that xxx.xxx.191.91 port is active | 12:03 |
davidsha | Ya, the IP address must have changed, (I'm new to this as well so it's just a guess) It might be trying to connect to an external machine at xxx.xxx.191.93 rather than the local nic at 91 | 12:03 |
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davidsha | change the host IP so that it's the machine it's actually on I'm guessing. | 12:04 |
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davidsha | Diplomat: that any help? | 12:06 |
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Diplomat | Im thinking that my ips lease ended and then it requested a new ip but that ip doesnt match my vm | 12:16 |
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Diplomat | looks like there's something wrong with dhcp but im not sure and im not sure whats wrong | 12:19 |
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Diplomat | That looks interesting "Failed execute conntrack command " | 12:21 |
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Diplomat | ./usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap: Executable not found: conntrack (filter match = conntrack) | 12:23 |
Diplomat | but it doesnt make sense at all because it worked perfectly before | 12:24 |
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Diplomat | Inside my VM.. I can see "No DHCPOFFERS received" | 12:52 |
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Diplomat | and I think I can't use a static IP too | 12:52 |
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Diplomat | Weird, everything appears to be all good, but it's just IP's lease ended or something because it's not showing up in ifconfig | 12:56 |
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Diplomat | Ok sweet, I can see DHCP requests | 13:03 |
Diplomat | 08:03:35.131372 IP 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from fa:16:3e:7d:13:16, length 310 | 13:03 |
Diplomat | but for some reason it's ipv6 | 13:04 |
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Diplomat | but I can't see anything in controller hmm | 13:05 |
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Diplomat | Ah.. I can see that "Request: who-has xxx reply to xxx" in controller, that's good | 13:07 |
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Diplomat | Interesting .. it asks for xxx.xxx.191.93 multiple times and then asks for xxx.xxx.191.91 and gets a reply | 13:09 |
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Diplomat | Yup, looks like it's the dnsmasq issue.. vm doesn't get it's ip back from the dhcp server | 13:27 |
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dixoncx_ | Hi.. how can we detect underlying hyperv version from guest os ? | 13:28 |
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Diplomat | Interesting, but when I'm looking into lease file it shows that my ip exists | 13:30 |
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Diplomat | So i detatched an interface and added it back, but now it doesn't add it to the VM :/ | 13:56 |
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Diplomat | vm says that eth0 is not present | 13:57 |
larsks | Diplomat: is it telling the truth? Is there an 'eth0' interface? | 13:58 |
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Diplomat | interface file is there yes | 13:58 |
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larsks | No, does the *interface* exist. E.g., does it show up in the output of 'ip link'. | 13:58 |
larsks | And if not, what *does* show up? | 13:58 |
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Diplomat | oh it shows lo and eth2 hmm | 13:59 |
Diplomat | and eth2 state is down | 13:59 |
larsks | Well, sure, because there is probably no interface file for eth2, so the system did not attempt to bring it up. | 13:59 |
larsks | What image are you booting? | 13:59 |
Diplomat | i renamed eth0 to eth2 and doing ifup atm | 14:00 |
Diplomat | and it's centos 6.7 | 14:00 |
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larsks | Did you build the image yourself, or is it an official cloud image | 14:01 |
larsks | ? | 14:01 |
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Diplomat | I built it myself, but it worked fine.. but then all nodes had to be shut down and moved into a new rack with new vlan so it was finished and now my vm didnt get an ip from dhcp and i decided to remove the interface and add it back | 14:02 |
Diplomat | ok now it shows eth2 is up | 14:02 |
Diplomat | i guess i have to reboot or something | 14:02 |
larsks | So, centos 6 has udev rules in place for ensuring that device names stay the same as you add /remove itnerfaces, and it does this by mapping MAC addresses to names. | 14:02 |
Diplomat | this "determining ip information for eth2" is failing | 14:02 |
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larsks | If you create a centos image and don't clear these rules out, it will rename interfaces when the system boots because they have new MAC addresses. | 14:03 |
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larsks | If you're building cloud images, you need to properly account for that by disabling the interface renaming behavior. | 14:03 |
Diplomat | as i said.. it worked perfectly before | 14:03 |
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Diplomat | and i have used that image many times before too | 14:03 |
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larsks | Specifically; this, if you haven't already: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165268/disable-persistent-network-device-naming | 14:04 |
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larsks | But maybe that's not the issue. I'm just saying, from the symptoms you've described, that sure sounds like it. | 14:05 |
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Diplomat | shouldnt sysprep remove it ? | 14:05 |
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larsks | Maybe! It's a quick check. | 14:05 |
Diplomat | i rebooted it, trying again once it's up | 14:05 |
larsks | Just see if that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules files is absent or linked to /dev/null. | 14:05 |
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larsks | I'm not sure what else would give you eth2 like that instead of eth0... | 14:05 |
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Diplomat | my vm's booting time is long as hell | 14:06 |
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Diplomat | lol | 14:06 |
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Diplomat | hm.. maybe yea, system has it eth0 but for some reason eth2 is there | 14:07 |
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Diplomat | so centos doesnt feel like talking with it or something | 14:08 |
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Diplomat | larsks: okay that file is there and there are um.. 3 rows | 14:10 |
larsks | Yeah, there's your problem. | 14:10 |
larsks | You need to fix that in your source image. | 14:10 |
Diplomat | it shows name="eth0" eth1 and eth2 | 14:11 |
Diplomat | so can i remove those 2 lines that show eth0 and eth1 and just leave eth2 | 14:11 |
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larsks | No, you should do what I said earlier. Get rid of that file and replace it with a link to /dev/null. | 14:11 |
larsks | Then you will always have 'eth0'. | 14:11 |
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larsks | And you need to make that change on your source image, so that new instances will have the fix. | 14:11 |
Diplomat | Well, I need to get that VM up first | 14:12 |
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Diplomat | but right now i'll delete that file and ln -s /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules /dev/null ? | 14:12 |
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larsks | Well, not really, no. I mean, you can probably use something like 'guestfish' to make the change, or just boot using libvirt and use single user mode, or mount the image manually use qemu-nbd, or... | 14:12 |
larsks | There are lots of options. | 14:12 |
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Diplomat | All that just to get an ip from dhcp ? wut | 14:13 |
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larsks | "All that?" Look, you've got a buggy image and you need to fix it. That's all. | 14:14 |
larsks | No biggie. | 14:14 |
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Diplomat | Well, my issue here is to get network working again in that vm.. it worked fine before | 14:15 |
larsks | ...and I've explained why the network is failing (because the interface is getting renamed at boot). And how to fix it. | 14:15 |
* larsks moves on. | 14:15 | |
Diplomat | It changed when I attached a new interface.. it was eth0 in the beginning | 14:16 |
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Diplomat | I checked leases.. and that IP my VM has is assigned to a different mac :/ so if i could change it somehow, I bet it would work, maybe | 14:32 |
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jmccarthy | Hmm ok I've got a question :) I have a multinode setup in vms (all on the same physical host server), it seems fine. However, when I add in additional compute nodes/vms that are hosted on a different server from the rest, any cirros instances that are created on those compute nodes do not actually get their addresses assigned in the instance itself. | 14:35 |
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Sam-I-Am | sounds like a networking problem | 14:38 |
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Diplomat | Alrighty, eth0 is back.. but with a wrong hdaddr | 14:40 |
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akulshin | Hi everyone! Does anyone face environment topology appearing issue under IE 10 and 11? Any suggestions on how to solve it? | 14:45 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: Yea .. just not sure what I have misconfigured .. hrm | 14:46 |
Sam-I-Am | jmccarthy: are these all vms? what type of private networks? | 14:47 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: They are all vms, class C, is that what you mean ? | 14:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | i mean your openstack private networks | 14:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | or are your openstack vms getting IPs off a provider network | 14:53 |
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Diplomat | Ok.. ip a shows only "lo" in VM.. dnsmasq lease file looks fine too.. Attaching an interface now | 14:54 |
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Diplomat | ok.. eth0 was created, but lease file is as it was :/ | 14:55 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: Oh sorry, no not off another provider, I have a test-net similar to this: | 14:55 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: neutron subnet-create demo-net 10.0.0.0/24 --name demo-subnet --gateway 10.0.0.1 | 14:56 |
Diplomat | Fun fact is that I cant just get rid of that VM because it has tons of information in it and i'm not using a volume | 14:56 |
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Diplomat | Lease file has now that record.. of my ip and my correct mac | 14:57 |
Sam-I-Am | jmccarthy: so thats a vxlan or gre network? | 14:57 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: vxlan | 14:57 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: So most of my instances are fine, it's just the ones with vms on other host that have this behaviour | 14:58 |
Sam-I-Am | is the l2 agent up on that host? | 14:58 |
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jmccarthy | Sam-I-Am: Lemme see | 14:58 |
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Diplomat | Mr Sam-I-Am: Any ideas why dnsmasq doesn't answer to my vm? I can see the dhcp request in VM, compute node and controller using tcpdump, but dnsmasq doesn't want to answer. It's lease file has correct information, correct mac and ip | 14:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: does the req make it into the dhcp namespace? | 15:01 |
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Diplomat | I'm not sure.. you mean i should do ip netns exec qdhcp.. tcpdump ? | 15:02 |
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mekstrem_ | Hey guys. I need some guidelines on how to fetch os-hypervisor info from OpenStack using the Python SDK. I can't seem to find anything under "compute" that can be used to fetch hypervisor info for a tenant. | 15:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: yeah... and using the interface that the dhcp server is using | 15:03 |
Diplomat | Hm.. I can see only 2 interfaces there.. "lo" and "ns-9f443824-1a" and "ns-9f443824-1a" ip addr is xxx.xxx.191.91, but my VM's ip should be xxx.xxx.191.93 | 15:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | your dhcp server is probably on .91. tcpdump that interface. | 15:04 |
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Diplomat | Hmm.. it didnt update itself in the beginning, but when I closed tcpdump then yes i can see that request there | 15:05 |
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Diplomat | 10:05:04.663988 ARP, Request who-has xxx.xxx.191.93 tell xxx.xxx.191.89, length 46 | 15:06 |
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Diplomat | hmm | 15:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | thats just arp | 15:06 |
Diplomat | it doesn't look like it reaches it | 15:06 |
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Diplomat | yes | 15:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | .89 is probably the gateway? | 15:06 |
Diplomat | yes | 15:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | but it gets to the physical interface on the controller node that handles that private network? | 15:07 |
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Diplomat | Yes | 15:08 |
Diplomat | Well, I can see it in the controller node | 15:08 |
Diplomat | Actually no :O | 15:08 |
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Diplomat | 0:08:28.584150 IP 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from fa:16:3e:16:1c:75, length 310 | 15:08 |
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Diplomat | this one is from the compute node | 15:09 |
Sam-I-Am | ok... and it never finds the controller? | 15:09 |
Diplomat | looks like it yes | 15:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | what kind of network is this? | 15:10 |
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Diplomat | provider one, used liberty's docs | 15:10 |
Diplomat | It feels like that vlan is not working as it should | 15:11 |
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skinnejo | Is it possible to have nova provision VMs with unsafe caching for the volumes? | 15:17 |
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Diplomat | Actually.. when I try to ping that dhcp ip I can see in horizon, it says "network in unreachable" | 15:19 |
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Diplomat | also it shouldn't be vlan issue i think, but im not very sure | 15:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: if you're using a vlan-type network and communication fails between your vm and the controller node, its probably a network problem | 15:21 |
Sam-I-Am | you can try consoling into the vm and assigning an IP manually, then see if it can ping the gateway (which is usually not on the controller node) | 15:22 |
Diplomat | I can ping the controller.. on the private network | 15:22 |
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Diplomat | root@compute1:~# ping controller | 15:23 |
Diplomat | PING controller (10.0.0.11) 56(84) bytes of data. | 15:23 |
Diplomat | 64 bytes from controller (10.0.0.11): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.221 ms | 15:23 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, so it seems like your private (vxlan) networks are working | 15:23 |
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Diplomat | Nope, I can't ping my gateway or that dhcp one | 15:24 |
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Diplomat | I set up a static ip using my ip | 15:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | how did you create this network? is it flat or using a vlan tag? | 15:26 |
Sam-I-Am | can your controller node ping the gateway on it? | 15:27 |
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Diplomat | Yes, controller can ping that gateway and I created it using flat yes | 15:30 |
Diplomat | I did it exactly like here: http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/launch-instance-networks-public.html | 15:30 |
Sam-I-Am | so thats a flat network, no vlan tag | 15:31 |
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Diplomat | Sam-I-Am: but the fun thing is that it worked perfectly | 15:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | until what? | 15:36 |
Diplomat | Until moving servers to a new rack and a new vlan | 15:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | if you're using flat networks, openstack doesnt know what vlans you're on, so its probably an end-to-end vlan config problem on your network gear | 15:37 |
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Diplomat | Hm, but what should I ask from the DC guys.. they said that they set it up correctly and it's my fault, but i haven't changed anything | 15:39 |
Sam-I-Am | it worked before, so nothing in openstack has changed | 15:39 |
Sam-I-Am | it stopped working | 15:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | so i'd make sure that the vlan presented (untagged, i guess) to the public physical interface on all of your hosts matches | 15:40 |
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Diplomat | Okay cool, I emailed them thanks.. | 15:52 |
Diplomat | But I still have to find a new host.. their support is horrible | 15:52 |
Diplomat | they promised that moving 2 servers to a new rack will take around 2 hours + vlan + private networking | 15:52 |
Diplomat | they promised that umm.. 22 hours ago | 15:52 |
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Diplomat | it took like.. 9+ hours to get those 2 servers up and ~18h for vlan | 15:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | awesome | 16:06 |
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Diplomat | I don't know why openstack gods are not happy with me :( | 16:07 |
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Diplomat | I guess i have to sacrifice a sysadmin or something :/ | 16:07 |
Sam-I-Am | in this case it seems like openstack is somehow not the problem | 16:08 |
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Diplomat | yup | 16:08 |
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Diplomat | Well, OS is awesome.. it's just there are hosting issues and i fail like a noob and that's pretty much it :D | 16:08 |
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wasmum | anyone wanna talk neutron and mulit external nets with a single l3 agent? | 16:33 |
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pilotbri | anyone wanna take a stab at helping me debug landscape deploy? juju is hanging up deploying rabbitmq and I cant seem to figure out why | 17:06 |
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Helio- | landscape deploy? | 17:07 |
Helio- | rabbitmq seems like a weird place to hang up, should install erlang and then rabbitmq, unless you have a stale broken config of rabbitmq | 17:07 |
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pilotbri | this is using ubuntu landscape, which uses maas and juju to deploy. | 17:08 |
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Helio- | yea, I'm not familiar with either | 17:09 |
pilotbri | no worries. | 17:09 |
pilotbri | its been driving me up a wall for a couple weeks now. | 17:09 |
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Helio- | I am familiar with installing and configuring rabbitmq, most of the isues with it tend to be related to a cluster config that's still on disk, so it's using an mnesia config for a cluster that no longer exists so the daemon won't start on it's own | 17:10 |
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Helio- | shouldn't be an issue on a greenfield | 17:10 |
pilotbri | any idea where I should start looking? | 17:11 |
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Helio- | is the log being verbose enough to tell you what step it is on other then deploying rabbitmq? is it installing erlang, installing rabbitmq-server, configuring it, etc? | 17:17 |
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pilotbri | I'm sure it is, I just have to figure out where its logging. | 17:17 |
pilotbri | I was hoping to find someone with landscape experience to point me in the right direction. | 17:18 |
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pilotbri | the bizzare thing, I've had openstack deployed before, something has changed to cause the deploy to stop working. | 17:19 |
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pilotbri | at first I thought it was my networking, so I configured it to look identical to the landscape docs, | 17:19 |
pilotbri | still failing. | 17:19 |
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pilotbri | then I thought it might be an HA problem, so I'm trying a deploy with just the minimum required servers/network now. | 17:20 |
pilotbri | but I've been down this path before. | 17:20 |
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pilotbri | so if this doesnt work, I'm going to try just deploy using juju | 17:22 |
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Helio- | are the servers you are deploying to the same? | 17:23 |
pilotbri | they are not | 17:24 |
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pilotbri | but close. | 17:25 |
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zach | question (probably a dumb one). Can a CentOS controller handle Ubuntu computer nodes? | 17:43 |
zach | compute^ | 17:43 |
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jidar | I don't see why not | 17:44 |
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zach | That was my thought too | 17:46 |
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pilotbri | blah, now with just the minimum nodes required, its still not completing. | 17:51 |
pilotbri | grrr. | 17:51 |
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Schwarzbaer_ | Hello, people. Here at $company we'll be setting up a VM with the ELK stack soon; meaning that there'll be an Elasticsearch running on it, with logstash feeding data into it and Kibana querying it. It'll exist in an OpenStack environment, which is why I'm here: My question: Are there reasons for/against a) Having a VM with a honking big disk, b) Having a VM with a small disk, and then mounting a honking big storage volume to sto | 17:52 |
Schwarzbaer_ | re the data on? Or do those end up being the same in practice? | 17:52 |
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clarkb | Schwarzbaer_: we do similar and attach 1TB volumes as necessary with lvm over the top for the data. But that is because its the way our cloud provider exposes disk to us | 18:00 |
clarkb | Schwarzbaer_: haven't had any issues doing it that way but I don't know much of the underlying IO situation | 18:00 |
anortef | Schwarzbaer_: I'm against big VMs because OpenStack is an IaaS and having a big VM that is statefull it's a serious problem with that approach whereas a small VM with a big Storage(something planned to be statefull) makes you more prepared against crashes | 18:01 |
anortef | if something breaks you can create a new little VM and attach the storage to it | 18:01 |
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clarkb | anortef: elasticsearch itself handles that | 18:01 |
varesa | I can't get my instances to resolve dns hostnames from the internet, only the .openstacklocal names | 18:02 |
anortef | clarkb: yes and no | 18:02 |
clarkb | with ES have a couple replicas then its pretty transparent when data falls away and new disk is added | 18:02 |
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clarkb | whether or not that disk is from a "large VM" or large volume attached to a VM meh | 18:02 |
varesa | I've added dnsmasq_dns_servers = my local dns server to /etc/neutron/dhcp_agent.ini | 18:02 |
Schwarzbaer_ | clarkb, *if* there are multiple nodes. Yes, I know that "I'm doing it wrong", but due to budget constraints, I might get only one VM for it. | 18:02 |
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anortef | clarkb: but you are relying on a capability of ELS and not on the capabilities offered by openstack | 18:03 |
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clarkb | its actually a pretty big pita to stop ES on host, detach volume, attach volume to new host, configure it to mount properly, reboot to be sure, start ES on new host | 18:03 |
clarkb | Schwarzbaer_: in that case using volumes is likely beneficial | 18:03 |
varesa | I thought dnsmasq_dns_servers should take care of that? | 18:04 |
clarkb | Schwarzbaer_: bceause while the above process is painful it gives you a sane upgrade path | 18:04 |
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anortef | varesa: what is your OpenStack setup? | 18:10 |
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Schwarzbaer_ | Well then, thanks, and see you later. | 18:10 |
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Schwarzbaer_ | Well then, thanks, and see you later. | 18:12 |
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loth | This normal for the l3-agent process in Kilo? "neutron /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/neutron-l3-agent --config-file /usr/share/neutron/neutron-dist.conf --config-dir /usr/share/neutron/l3_agent --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-dir /etc/neutron/conf.d/neutron-l3-agent --log-file /var/log/neutron/l3-agent.log | 18:20 |
loth | " | 18:20 |
loth | afaik previously juno used /etc/neutron/l3_agent.ini | 18:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | eh | 18:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | loth: this is the systemd unit? | 18:23 |
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loth_ | its running via systemd yep | 18:23 |
loth_ | don't see the l3_agent.ini systemd.service file ExecStart=/usr/bin/neutron-l3-agent --config-file /usr/share/neutron/neutron-dist.conf --config-dir /usr/share/neutron/l3_agent --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-dir /etc/neutron/conf.d/neutron-l3-agent --log-file /var/log/neutron/l3-agent.log | 18:24 |
Sam-I-Am | thats how its running here too | 18:25 |
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loth_ | Heres the juno one ExecStart=/usr/bin/neutron-l3-agent --config-file /usr/share/neutron/neutron-dist.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/l3_agent.ini --config-file /etc/neutron/fwaas_driver.ini --log-file /var/log/neutron/l3-agent.log | 18:25 |
Sam-I-Am | the /usr/share/neutron/l3_agent/l3_agent.conf is a symlink to /etc/neutron/l3_agent.ini | 18:25 |
Sam-I-Am | which frankly is stupid | 18:26 |
Diplomat | It was vlan issue | 18:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | but then again, this is par for rdo packages | 18:26 |
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loth_ | i dont see /usr/share/neutron/l3_agent/l3_agent.conf in mine? am i blind | 18:26 |
loth_ | ah nvm | 18:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | i dont know why the rdo packages make this so complicated | 18:28 |
Sam-I-Am | and it'll change from release to release, so be aware | 18:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | (this is also why you should try to deploy from source) | 18:28 |
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varesa | anortef: installed on a single machine from RDO. Neutron networking | 18:30 |
varesa | A net that is bridged to a physical interface | 18:30 |
anortef | the routers can resolv outside? | 18:30 |
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varesa | anortef: which router? | 18:31 |
anortef | have you defined a virtual router attached to your vms network and the external network? | 18:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | varesa: dns servers are defined when you create the subnet | 18:32 |
Sam-I-Am | (resolvers) | 18:32 |
varesa | Sam-I-Am: okay, haven't seen that | 18:32 |
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varesa | anortef: I don't have a router, it's directly connected to the "external net" | 18:33 |
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anortef | a ok | 18:33 |
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anortef | then it's probably what Sam-I-Am have said | 18:33 |
varesa | I guess I'm supposed to use floating IPs but currently the instances get a IP that can be reached and can communicate with the rest of the network | 18:33 |
anortef | if you are using the external net directly you don0t need floating ips | 18:34 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: Yeah, I see "neutron subnet-create --dns-nameserver=..." | 18:34 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: I updated the subnet and restarted the instance. Now resolv.conf contains the IP of my local DNS server but still can't resolve | 18:40 |
varesa | I guess I should find an image with dig/nslookup/telnet or anything else than ping that would help me debug | 18:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | can you ping the dns server? | 18:41 |
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varesa | I can see the change in effect as I can no longer ping the .openstacklocal addresses | 18:41 |
varesa | Sam-I-Am: yes | 18:41 |
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Diplomat | http://puu.sh/lgGkV/59d436af63.png this is the most beautiful picture of today | 18:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: yay | 18:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: see, it wasnt an openstack problem | 18:47 |
Sam-I-Am | Diplomat: thats rare, so enjoy it :) | 18:47 |
Diplomat | Never said that it was :D | 18:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | varesa: firewall on the dns server? | 18:47 |
Diplomat | but holy sh.. i feel like i need like.. 30L beer | 18:47 |
Diplomat | one big bottle | 18:47 |
Sam-I-Am | or some other config issue preventing recursion from your vm | 18:47 |
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jidar | so is there no way to do SSL termination on a phy device doing LBaaS? | 18:48 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: no, nothing that I know of | 18:52 |
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varesa | I'll be soon able to do some tests, just wrote the important yum .repo files with direct IPs so I can install packages | 18:53 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: okay, DNS does not want to serve outside it's own subnet | 18:55 |
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Diplomat | Sam-I-Am: have you used designate before ? | 18:57 |
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Diplomat | Also is there a way to specify to which compute node you want to create a vm ? | 18:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | no and yes | 18:58 |
tenshi | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/cli_nova_specify_host.html | 18:59 |
zach | Can I do IP assignments per hypervisor? LIke I want to assign a /26 per hypervisor? | 18:59 |
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Diplomat | Sweet thank you | 18:59 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: dns server answers requests from 192.168.0.0/24 but any other subnet, e.g. the openstack subnet or my current VPN subnet it says "recursion requested but not available" with not ANSWER section. So not a openstack issue anymore | 18:59 |
Sam-I-Am | or you mess with the scheduler | 18:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | zach: not unless you limit specific networks to that hypervisor. generally a bad idea because you break any way to migrate vms off that host. | 19:00 |
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zach | thanks Sam-I-Am | 19:02 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: named.conf allow-query: 192.168.0.0/24 > 192.168.0.0/16, fixed! | 19:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | notmyname: ping | 19:04 |
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notmyname | Sam-I-Am what's up? | 19:05 |
Sam-I-Am | notmyname: can you comment on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228588/ | 19:05 |
Sam-I-Am | and the bug too, i guess | 19:05 |
Sam-I-Am | i think its invalid | 19:05 |
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varesa | Sam-I-Am: I don't even need to have the subnet dns server. I set the server back to 192.168.88.0 (first address of the alloc pool) which I guess is the openstack dnsmasq | 19:08 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah | 19:08 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: why do you think it's invalid? | 19:08 |
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varesa | since I have dnsmasq_dns_servers set in the dhcp_agent.ini it forwards to my local server correctly now that it accepts connections | 19:09 |
Sam-I-Am | you can either enable forwarding in dnsmasq, or specify dns servers | 19:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | notmyname: because i cant reproduce it | 19:09 |
Sam-I-Am | dont see why swift would be any different than other services in this respect either | 19:09 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: if it's a different config parser, it could have different behavior | 19:10 |
manous | hello in kilo, how can i provision docker instance ? | 19:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | notmyname: ive always used non-alphanum chars in my labs without quoting and they work... for several releases now | 19:11 |
Sam-I-Am | notmyname: for these sort of issues, i usually find the reporter has some other problem | 19:12 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: in other openstack projects? | 19:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | in all projects | 19:12 |
notmyname | ok. I'd defer to your knowledge there | 19:12 |
Sam-I-Am | figured maybe there was something special about swift i didnt know, or for some reason never caught | 19:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's confusion in the bug too | 19:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | because the reporter sort of says it doesnt work with quotes, but the guide never says to use quotes in the first place | 19:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | pretty sure this is just some sort of user error, or misinterpretation of instructions | 19:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | notmyname: this is the fun stuff i get to triage :/ | 19:16 |
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notmyname | Sam-I-Am: confirmed locally that swift will take whatever bytes are given as the value are the bytes that the process sees | 19:16 |
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notmyname | ie no special quoting and if you use quotes, you'll get quotes in the value | 19:17 |
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notmyname | ie the config parser we use doesn't do any special value translation | 19:17 |
Sam-I-Am | ok, thx | 19:17 |
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ggolin | hey guys, is there a way to generate a list of all vms with their respective user keys? havana. i can list all of them vms in all the tenants with nova list --all_tenants. need the keys, too. | 19:29 |
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loth_ | ggolin, "nova list --fields name,status,key_name --all-tenants" | 19:35 |
ggolin | loth_: thank you, i will give this a try! | 19:35 |
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loth_ | you can add most columns in the 'nova show' command to --fields | 19:35 |
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ggolin | loth_: awesome, this worked, thank you! | 19:38 |
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jidar | Sam-I-Am: might be a stupid question, but is it possible to run more than 1 ml2 driver? ie: the standard ml2 driver plus another one like say ml2_conf_cisco.ini | 20:33 |
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Diplomat | Guys, is there a way to get access to swift files over browser.. i know it's over api, but im wondering about that auth token thing | 20:43 |
Diplomat | Nvm | 20:44 |
Diplomat | when you click on view details in horizon then it shows you | 20:44 |
Diplomat | noice :D | 20:44 |
Diplomat | gotta love lots of storage | 20:44 |
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Diplomat | Guys, is it possible to mount swift like cindeR? | 21:20 |
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notmyname | no | 21:20 |
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notmyname | or at least no with "just" swift | 21:20 |
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dmsimard | notmyname: that reaction time man | 21:20 |
dmsimard | :P | 21:20 |
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notmyname | there are several gateway products you can use that present swift as something mountable (eg cifs/nfs/etc) | 21:20 |
dmsimard | Diplomat: there's projects like s3ql that allows you to mount swift and expose it as a filesystem | 21:21 |
Diplomat | It would be real badass if it would be possible.. I know it can be done with ceph i guess | 21:21 |
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Diplomat | sweet man, thanks, im checking it now | 21:21 |
dmsimard | Diplomat: shameless plug: https://dmsimard.com/2014/09/29/s3ql-a-filesystem-over-http-with-openstack-swift/ | 21:21 |
Diplomat | oh god, that shameless plug | 21:22 |
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notmyname | Diplomat: dmsimard: another shameless plug ;-) https://swiftstack.com/product/filesystem-gateway/ | 21:22 |
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Diplomat | I checked it out one day.. looks really fancy | 21:23 |
Diplomat | and nice youtube videos too | 21:23 |
dmsimard | notmyname: ooh, that's cool, I didnt know swiftstack had a product for that | 21:23 |
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Diplomat | oh god that pricing | 21:23 |
loth_ | Anyone seen this keystone trace error? "request data read error" http://pb.ubiquity.io/75 | 21:23 |
Diplomat | My deployment is like a deployment for ants | 21:24 |
Diplomat | I don't think I need that funky stuff, but it looks badass | 21:24 |
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Diplomat | dmsimard: your article is nice, son, I'll try it, it's perfect for cPanel backups | 21:25 |
notmyname | Diplomat: was that a good or bad thing ont he pricing? ;-) | 21:26 |
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Diplomat | I don't have 100k+ to spend on storage :( | 21:26 |
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dmsimard | Diplomat: friend of mine tried it for cPanel backups, I think he ran into some issues | 21:27 |
Diplomat | Hmm | 21:27 |
dmsimard | Diplomat: mostly performance related | 21:27 |
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dmsimard | but I think he got it to work eventually | 21:27 |
Diplomat | What kind of performance related issues? | 21:28 |
dmsimard | Diplomat: not sure, might've been related to the swift deployment he was using | 21:28 |
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dmsimard | by all means try it out though, just bench it and test it properly before you start putting your backups on it ;) | 21:29 |
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Diplomat | Hmm.. I guess I have to do it yes | 21:32 |
Diplomat | But then again cPanel supports s3 api.. it would be amazing to bypass it | 21:32 |
Diplomat | and use swift instead | 21:32 |
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SpeeR | I've just added a new compute node to my openstack installation, when I try to start a new instance, they are all created on the original compute node, | 21:35 |
Diplomat | Do nova service-list | 21:35 |
Diplomat | and see if your new node is there | 21:35 |
SpeeR | yeh, it's there enabled/uop | 21:36 |
SpeeR | up | 21:36 |
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SpeeR | Linux bridge agent | useful-sneeze | :-) | True | neutron-linuxbridge-agent | 21:37 |
SpeeR | neutron shows it up too | 21:37 |
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SpeeR | here is the nova service-list | 21:37 |
SpeeR | 6 | nova-compute | useful-sneeze | nova | enabled | up | 2015-11-10T21:36:00.000000 | - | 21:37 |
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Diplomat | dmsimard: https://github.com/softlayer/swftp check this too | 22:00 |
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SpeeR | I figured it out Diplomat, there was a project that had the vCPU's set to 20 | 22:16 |
Diplomat | Ah cool, it just happened to me too | 22:16 |
Diplomat | lol | 22:16 |
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Diplomat | Guys I have really noob question.. when I'm trying to authenticate myself with swift as an admin.. | 22:23 |
Diplomat | I'll just use: username = admin, pass: my admin pass | 22:23 |
Diplomat | ? | 22:23 |
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notmyname | Diplomat: what does it mean to you to authenticate as an admin? | 22:24 |
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Diplomat | Well my admin account.. or I'll have to make a new account for it ? | 22:24 |
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notmyname | I've found that there's different assumptions when people talk about "admin". and unfortunately, there's some overloading of the work in various openstack projects | 22:25 |
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notmyname | (same with "account" actually) | 22:25 |
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notmyname | what is your end goal? | 22:26 |
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Diplomat | Upload stuff to my "bucket" | 22:27 |
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Diplomat | well "container" | 22:27 |
notmyname | right :-) | 22:27 |
notmyname | if your user has been associated with swift in keystone, then you can do that | 22:28 |
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notmyname | you'll send your creds to keystone to get a token and service catalog, then you'll send the token id to the swift endpoint in the catalog | 22:29 |
Diplomat | Okay lol I gotta figure out how to do it with this swftp one | 22:29 |
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Diplomat | Guys, quick question.. any ideas when I'm logged in as an admin (I guess it doesn't matter) I can't create or download my keys | 23:00 |
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Diplomat | I can only import and delete | 23:00 |
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Trident | Hm, is it still true that neutron-l3-agent and neutron-vpn-agent are mutually exclusive and correctly understood that if vpnaas is needed, you are supposed to start neutron-vpn-agent with both vpn-agent config and l3-agent config? | 23:58 |
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