Thursday, 2014-03-06

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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Imported Translations from Transifex
openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add integration tests for vanilla 2 plugin
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openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add integration tests for vanilla 2 plugin
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openstackgerritIvan Berezovskiy proposed a change to openstack/savanna-image-elements: Remove all iptables rules that are set in base image
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openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Add integration tests for vanilla 2 plugin
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openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/savanna-image-elements: Disable hadoop swift element for vanilla 2 plugin
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themistymayhey everyone!15:04
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, hey15:09
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, how are you?15:09
themistymaygood. our main project is in a busy time right now but glad to have some savanna work to fall back on.  how are you?15:09
tmckaycrobertsrh, I went to update horizon today with the latest, and my venv setup fails with ImportError: cannot import name Feature15:14
tmckaycrobertsrh, ring any bells?15:14
crobertsrhHmm, haven't seen that one yet.15:14
crobertsrhIs that from master or a branch?15:14
crobertsrhI'll see what I find.  I think I had been using the havana branch.15:15
tmckaylooks like it has something to do with the setup tools15:17
crobertsrhHmm.  You got that problem when you ran install_venv?15:19
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crobertsrhI didn't get any errors when updating to master15:22
crobertsrhAre you on f20?15:24
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, I'm fine, thx, was on a meeting15:36
themistymaynp :D15:36
themistymaySergeyLukjanov: i am working to fix tox.ini and in the process ran flake8. looks like there are some flake8 issues in master.  is this something to correct?15:43
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, yup, if it's a real issues15:44
themistymaythere are a handful of E226 missing whitespace around arithmetic operator15:44
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, because flake8 job is voting for savanna, so, we expect to not have flake8 issues in master15:44
tmckaycrobertsrh, I'm on F1915:44
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, heh, that's fun, it's not disabled, probably was fixed in some new version15:45
themistymayok, i'll work in a patch to fix these as well15:45
crobertsrhtmckay:  Maybe try on a clean directory?  If you're still hosed, I can spin up an f19 and see if I can duplicate the problem.15:46
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tmckaycrobertsrh, well, I did try upgrading pip, but didn't try on a clean dir after that15:47
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tmckayI'll try.  I can try an F20 and see if it works, maybe it's time to upgrade15:47
elmikotime to drag you into the present ;)15:48
tmckayheh, like F19 is so far in the past...15:48
elmikowell i know what you said about upgrading... (<-- mimccune)15:49
tmckayelmiko, ack15:49
elmikoi used this nick on freenode for awhile, so i figured why change15:50
tmckaynope, still fails on a clean dir.15:50
themistymaySergeyLukjanov: can you confirm you want these fixed?  (i can add in an ignore if you do not)15:52
themistymay./savanna/plugins/intel/client/ E226 missing whitespace around arithmetic operator15:52
themistymay    timeout = 4*60*60  # 4 hours15:52
themistymaythat is an example15:52
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, sounds correct15:53
themistymayok you got it15:53
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, but PEP 8 does not enforce them15:54
themistymayno, these are from flake15:54
SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, which versions of pep8 and flake8 are you using?15:54
SergeyLukjanov(*) In the default configuration, the checks E123, E133, E226, E241 and E242 are ignored because they are not rules unanimously accepted, and PEP 8 does not enforce them. The check E133 is mutually exclusive with check E123. Use switch --hang-closing to report E133 instead of E123.15:55
themistymayflake8 --version15:55
themistymay2.0 (pep8: 1.4.5, GitCheckCommitTitleBug: 0.0.1, GitCheckCommitTitleLength: 0.0.1, GitCheckCommitTitlePeriodEnding: 0.0.1, hacking.core: 0.0.1, ProxyChecker: 0.0.1, mccabe: 0.2.1, pyflakes: 0.7.3)15:55
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toskytmckay: there is an email with the error you mentioned on openstack-dev [openstack-dev] [Nova] Tox issues on a clean environment16:26
tmckaytosky, thanks16:28
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, so, what's this total nonsense about splitting api and engine via an interface that can only live in one module?17:06
* mattf kids, he kids17:06
mattfbut seriously, what do you have in mind?17:07
SergeyLukjanovmattf, hey, noone say that it's impossible17:07
SergeyLukjanovBUT I'd like to keep it in one place, one impl17:08
SergeyLukjanovbecause under the hood nothing changed in fact17:08
SergeyLukjanovfor example if we'll have joint image_update it could be called with partial args from the old api17:08
SergeyLukjanovmy note about N:1 mappings from api to service layer means that we shouldn't invent new service (core code) layer for each new API17:09
SergeyLukjanovand it shouldn't be versioned as the API17:09
SergeyLukjanovwe should be able to change both layers separately17:09
mattfpart of why i want to separate it is so we can be clear on where changes should happen and where we need to be very careful about changes.17:10
mattfi actually want to duplicate the current stuff into v1 and have the v2 api/service use nothing from v1, but that seemed extreme. i settled on the middle ground in the review.17:10
SergeyLukjanovlet's presume that we decided to make some total improvement on the service side - it could change the whole service layer but api layer will still be intouched17:10
mattfwe need to be very careful in changing anything in the v2 layer - in the name of stability17:11
mattfmaybe we're thinking about the layers differently17:11
mattfthe api provides form, the service layer provides function, the model layer may be N:117:12
mattfi don't want to push function (e.g. a delete call that gets the obj before deleting it) into the api layer. i want that to live in the service layer.17:12
mattfthe service layer is where we handle any mismatch between the exposed semantics and the model layer17:13
mattfare we on the same page w/ ^^ distinctions?17:13
SergeyLukjanovjust to clarify, my opinion is that service layer versioning 1:1 mapped to API is totally incorrect17:13
SergeyLukjanovmodel will be always the same17:14
SergeyLukjanovviews == api + transformations are "per API version"17:14
mattfwe definitely disagree on that. i want the versions to be stable. right now there's bleed from the v1 into the v2. i'd rather they be separate.17:14
mattfwill you expand on ^^ some. i'm not sure i understand17:15
SergeyLukjanovI want to not duplicate functionality/code, especially in service layer, that's the core of project17:15
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SergeyLukjanovsorry, but I'm quite busy right now - pushing last steps of i3 dev milestone release17:16
SergeyLukjanovwe can continue after the meeting17:16
mattfsure thing17:17
SergeyLukjanovanyway, it looks like a very big and important question17:18
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SergeyLukjanovhey savanna folks17:48
SergeyLukjanovI have an answer from foundation folks17:49
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SergeyLukjanov"From the trademark search, Sahara and Caravan are the best options."17:49
SergeyLukjanovand team meeting in 10 mins17:49
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mattfthat's rather disappointing. i wonder how fusor would have done.17:57
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SergeyLukjanovmattf, yup, a bit disappointing...17:58
SergeyLukjanovI've not found any issues with Fusor when proposed it ;(17:59
SergeyLukjanovmeeting time!17:59
mattfmaybe we can just start using fusor17:59
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tmckayelmiko, meeting in #openstack-meeting-alt18:09
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SergeyLukjanovso, the renaming plan is to rename repos this weekend and start fixing all stuff19:00
tmckayokay, this is making me angry.  We set up elmiko less than 24 hours ago and everything was fine.  Now, I try to setup horizon on master and
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tmckayanybody know how to fix this?19:01
SergeyLukjanovwe'll make it step by step by adding aliases every where to unblock the gate19:01
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, will you email the list w/ the current plan and where folks are already committed to do work?19:02
SergeyLukjanovmattf, yup, I'll finish the plan tomorrow morning19:02
mattfwhat's the draft plan?19:02
SergeyLukjanovI'm taking all work on non-savanna internal resources like infra and etc. and I'd like to ask folks to help with renaming of internals itself19:03
SergeyLukjanovmattf, I need to discuss to infra and qa teams how to make it better to not break our gating and make it safer and faster19:03
mattfyes please19:03
mattf$ git grep -i savanna | wc -l19:04
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mattf^^ savanna.git19:04
mattf$ git grep -i savanna | wc -l19:04
mattf^^ python-savannaclient.git19:04
SergeyLukjanovbut the draft plan is too start from renaming repos/packages and adding aliases to be backward compatible, than commit new names usage to all external projects and start removing aliases19:04
mattf$ git grep -i savanna | wc -l19:04
SergeyLukjanovmattf, most of them are imports19:05
SergeyLukjanovgrep -v import19:05
mattfso that's important, if we can hold off on changing module structure -> less pre-grad work19:05
elmikotangental to this, is there a policy in place regarding proposing changes to the documentation on readthedocs?19:06
mattfwe'll have things like SAVANNA_USE_NEUTRON, which maybe shouldn't become SAHARA_USE_NEUTRON19:06
SergeyLukjanovmattf, we'll keep both in Icehouse  I think19:07
mattfmaybe readthedocs should just be taken down19:07
SergeyLukjanovmattf, rtfd is actual for keeping docs for 0.319:07
elmikoi only ask because we will need to change references there, and while i was reading the docs on monday i noted some areas that could use a little attention in regards to small grammar changes19:07
mattfthat's another question on scope. does it cover history or only from here on out.19:07
SergeyLukjanovI think that we should probably keep all endpoints names in Savanna too, need to clarify19:07
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, docs/source in savanna repo is a source for our docs site19:08
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, really appreciate any improvements for docs19:08
elmikoSergeyLukjanov, ok, so i would follow standard practice for changes then?19:09
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, exactly19:09
mattfSergeyLukjanov, how long are you expecting the rename to take?19:10
SergeyLukjanovmattf, ~1w19:12
SergeyLukjanovmattf, with ability to postpone first rc for a week too19:12
mattfacross how many people?19:12
SergeyLukjanovseveral volunteers are really appreciate, to make internal renaming change per repo will be enough19:13
SergeyLukjanovI don't see any big issues atm19:14
mattfwhat do you mean "to make internal renaming change per repo will be enough"?19:14
SergeyLukjanovrename package, endpoints and add aliases into the code19:14
SergeyLukjanovin each repo19:14
SergeyLukjanovI'll talk with some folks tonight to collect feedback on this topic19:15
mattfok, what we need is a list of the minimum changes required. we can expand from that. doing it all in 1 wk is risky imho19:15
mattfif we can rename repo/tarball/gate and go out w/ everyone else for rc1 that'd be nice. we can delete the nasty-savanna-ness from inside the code over the next month+.19:16
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openstackgerritAndrew Lazarev proposed a change to openstack/savanna: [IDH] Initial documentation for IDH plugin
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openstackgerritAndrew Lazarev proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Fixed reference errors in docs
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