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| openstackgerrit | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/senlin: Revise CLUSTER_CHECK design, avoid creating too many action records https://review.openstack.org/421615 | 01:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/senlin: Revise CLUSTER_CHECK design, avoid creating too many action records https://review.openstack.org/421615 | 01:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | XueFeng Liu proposed openstack/senlin: Revise CLUSTER_CHECK design, avoid creating too many action records https://review.openstack.org/421615 | 02:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Cao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack/senlin: Replaces yaml.load() with yaml.safe_load() https://review.openstack.org/421628 | 02:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | RUIJIE YUAN proposed openstack/senlin: revise BadRequest exception message https://review.openstack.org/421045 | 02:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shu Muto proposed openstack/senlin-dashboard: Add delete action for cluster https://review.openstack.org/421667 | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/senlin: revise BadRequest exception message https://review.openstack.org/421045 | 06:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/senlin-dashboard: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/421683 | 06:22 |
| xuhaiwei_ | Qiming, tacker vdu scaling seems only using heat-template, no nova server type profile I think | 06:22 |
| Qiming | it can be changed ... | 06:22 |
| Qiming | so long we don't break userland | 06:22 |
| Qiming | then we can kick heat out of the picture | 06:22 |
| xuhaiwei_ | Qiming, reallyyyyy? | 06:23 |
| Qiming | a senlin "nova server" profile can model a VDU completely, without having to create a heat stack | 06:23 |
| xuhaiwei_ | only one type profile? | 06:23 |
| Qiming | an extended nova server, with ports, security groups, volumes auto-created and managed | 06:23 |
| Qiming | you can treat it as a small heat stack | 06:23 |
| Qiming | in real-life, a bare nova server is not useful, and a full heat stack is seldom needed either | 06:24 |
| Qiming | then the call flow becomes simplified | 06:25 |
| Qiming | it won't be tacker -> heat -> senlin -> heat | 06:25 |
| xuhaiwei_ | ok, since tacker only talks to senlin, it doesn't know how the vdu is scaled | 06:25 |
| Qiming | it will be tacker -> senlin | 06:25 |
| Qiming | create senlin policy in tosca | 06:25 |
| Qiming | just like they do today, using heat | 06:26 |
| Qiming | it would help tacker a lot | 06:26 |
| xuhaiwei_ | by the way, when will this feature suppored? | 06:28 |
| Qiming | it is on agenda, high priority, to be landed in Pike | 06:29 |
| Qiming | elynn is already prototyping it | 06:29 |
| yanyanhu | hopefully, we will have a prototype before summit | 06:30 |
| elynn | Yes, I'm working on it and hopefully finish it ASAP. | 06:30 |
| Qiming | cool! | 06:31 |
| elynn | But in Ocata, I'm not sure if I can finished it. But for prototype, I'm working on and will finish it before summit. | 06:31 |
| wllabs | The TZAwareDateTime is very cool | 06:32 |
| wllabs | local timezone rather than utc | 06:32 |
| elynn | Hi Qiming , Can I update the node.data in profile.do_create? | 06:32 |
| Qiming | I'm seeing it a break-thru, previously we were limited by ourself sticking to a resource type exposed by a single service | 06:32 |
| Qiming | sure you can do | 06:33 |
| Qiming | it is runtime data | 06:33 |
| elynn | Those ports created in do_create should be stored in node.data and deleted in profile.do_delete. | 06:33 |
| xuhaiwei_ | there is one thing I want to discuss, up to now my understanding about integrate senlin to tacker is deploying all the senlin resources by heat by using a heat template which is translated from tacker's tosca template, or should I request senlin-api directly not using Heat ? | 06:34 |
| Qiming | today, you will do it using heat template | 06:35 |
| Qiming | because we don't support combinations of nova server and ports into a VDU | 06:35 |
| xuhaiwei_ | I wonder if it is a good way | 06:35 |
| Qiming | in future, we hope the implementation will shift away from having to have heat template as an intermediate representation | 06:36 |
| xuhaiwei_ | thanks for your suggestion | 06:37 |
| openstackgerrit | RUIJIE YUAN proposed openstack/senlin: unify exceptions' message https://review.openstack.org/421109 | 06:38 |
| Qiming | np, xuhaiwei_ | 06:41 |
| yanyanhu | hi, xuhaiwei_, I noticed Kanagaraj Manickam leave a comment said: As discussed in meeting, pls add dependency to senlin bp for supporting selective vdu scaling and we could merge. | 06:47 |
| yanyanhu | for nova server adoption, xuefeng has started a bp for it | 06:48 |
| Qiming | I see, so 'selective scaling' becomes a must | 06:48 |
| yanyanhu | let me find the link for u | 06:48 |
| yanyanhu | Qiming, yes, seems so | 06:48 |
| yanyanhu | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/senlin/+spec/senlin-adpot-function | 06:48 |
| yanyanhu | this one, xuhaiwei_ | 06:48 |
| xuhaiwei_ | thanks, I am updating the spec now :) | 06:49 |
| xuhaiwei_ | Qiming, yanyanhu, I think for NFV's use case, the VNFs are different from each other, one can be a firewall, one can be loadbalancer, you need to scale out the node of specific function | 06:51 |
| yanyanhu | my pleasure, although the implementation detail has not been decided yet, the basic idea has been discussed | 06:51 |
| yanyanhu | xuhaiwei_, yes, that's why we need a more powerful "server" profile | 06:51 |
| Qiming | xuhaiwei_, are you placing a firewall VNF and a LB VNF into the same cluster? | 06:56 |
| Qiming | why are you doing that? | 06:56 |
| xuhaiwei_ | Qiming, not in the same cluster, by doing selective vdu auto-scaling, only the selected vdus are in the same cluster, right? | 06:57 |
| Qiming | yes, that is why you are grouping things into the same cluster | 06:58 |
| Qiming | you want that group to be scalable | 06:58 |
| Qiming | if different VNFs live in different clusters, which seems natural to me, you don't have that question | 06:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/senlin: Add port_create/port_delete to neutron driver https://review.openstack.org/421709 | 07:28 |
| yanyanhu | hi, elynn, xuhaiwei_ lixinhui , will you be free at 4:00pm? | 07:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Shu Muto proposed openstack/senlin-dashboard: Add update action for cluster https://review.openstack.org/421711 | 07:29 |
| xuhaiwei_ | yanyanhu, I am ok | 07:30 |
| elynn | yanyanhu, I'm free at that time | 07:30 |
| yanyanhu | will try to set up a discussion for summit proposal | 07:30 |
| yanyanhu | elynn, ok | 07:30 |
| xuhaiwei_ | yanyanhu, I have created one session topic for the summit since my boss is gathering the summit session proposal information | 07:31 |
| yanyanhu | xuhaiwei_, I see. actually we are now considering whether we need to set up two proposals for this topic | 07:33 |
| yanyanhu | lets discuss the detail later | 07:33 |
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| xuhaiwei_ | yanyanhu, how to have the meeting? in this channel? | 07:46 |
| xuhaiwei_ | by the way I got the email from xuefeng, but no phone found | 07:47 |
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| xuhaiwei_ | XueFeng, I can't see the phone in your mail | 07:47 |
| wllabs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/senlin/+bug/1652232 | 07:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1652232 in senlin "receiver with action 'CLUSTER_CREATE' cannot be triggered successfully" [High,In progress] - Assigned to lvdongbing (dbcocle) | 07:49 |
| wllabs | the bug need to be solved ? | 07:50 |
| Qiming | wllabs, I think lvdongbing is already working on it | 07:59 |
| Qiming | pls contact him and see if that is true | 07:59 |
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| XueFeng | hi, xuhaiwei_. I have send to you. | 08:42 |
| XueFeng | hi, wllabs. You can see this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415128/ | 08:42 |
| xuhaiwei_ | XueFeng: got it, thanks | 08:43 |
| XueFeng | Any time you can call me:) | 08:46 |
| Wu_ | Hi, I want to create a heat stack using a template which contains senlin resource type. I got the ERROR: HEAT-E99001 Service senlin is not available for resource type OS::Senlin::Profile:reason: The client (senlin) is not available | 08:46 |
| Wu_ | My other senlin operation works well | 08:49 |
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| Qiming | Wu_, you will need to dig into heat code on enabling senlin plugin | 08:55 |
| xuhaiwei_ | Hi yanyanhu, others, this is the session proposal summary for senlin_tacker_integration https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/boston_summit_proposal_senlin_tacker | 09:02 |
| Wu_ | Thank you, Qiming, but I cannot find any information about enabling senlin plugin, could you tell me how to do it? | 09:02 |
| yanyanhu | xuhaiwei_, thanks a lot. will take a look at it and leave comment :) | 09:03 |
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| Qiming | Wu_, you have to read the source code ... | 09:16 |
| Qiming | cannot do that for you | 09:16 |
| Qiming | it should resides in heat/engine/drivers/ ... | 09:16 |
| Wu_ | Thank you, Qiming :) | 09:33 |
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| Qiming | Wu_, in heat, drivers are called clients, sorry | 09:34 |
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| wllabs | Importance Wishlist | 10:48 |
| wllabs | high > low > wishlist ? | 10:48 |
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| wllabs | Support to Scheduled Actions | 11:08 |
| wllabs | Does this feature will exists in the ocata? | 11:08 |
| wllabs | Better Versioning for Profile/Policy . Does this feature exist in newton? or to the next version ? | 11:17 |
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| elynn | I found that it's not easy to pass metadata like {'config': {'foo': bar'}} | 13:12 |
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| elynn | senile will treat {'foo':'bar'} as str. | 13:12 |
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