Wednesday, 2013-12-18

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lifelessSpamapS: you got distracted didn't you :(00:44
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cody-somervillelifeless: aye01:00
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lifelesscody-somerville: you're there? Can you undistract him? we're blocked on that review01:40
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cody-somervillelifeless: He's about to head to catch flight but will let him know.01:43
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kuilifeless: hi01:49
kuilifeless: would you help review the commit please ? https://review.openstack.org/6259401:49
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SpamapSlifeless: at airport now. Before I was pulled into a meeting checking out CoreOS... interesting stuff we can talk about later03:28
SpamapSlifeless: reviewing now03:28
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SpamapSlifeless: done03:32
SpamapSlifeless: may god have mercy on our souls03:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Preserve the overcloud rather than deleting it.  https://review.openstack.org/6252503:33
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Permit setting the overcloud image update policy.  https://review.openstack.org/6252603:33
openstackgerritKui Shi proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element to modify /etc/apt/sources.list in dib  https://review.openstack.org/6259403:39
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StevenKAnd the wifi costs how much ... :-)04:16
SpamapSStevenK: $804:17
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SpamapSlifeless: looking at the update change.. we are going to have to start passing in the image ID, not the image name.04:38
SpamapSlifeless: Heat doesn't verify that the image IDs are the same.. it just diffs the template snippets. (that will be the case with converge, but not update)04:39
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SpamapSlifeless: also we should save the parameters as a stack and nest the overcloud in that stack.. so that updates are simpler.04:47
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lifelessSpamapS: argh, thats what I was asking you :( - image name.06:15
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lifelessSpamapS: updates - we should be using the separated -P so we can just pass nothing if nothing has changed, or has that not landed in heat yet?06:16
lifelessSpamapS: could the different image contents thing be considered a bug in heat?06:16
rpodolyaka1morning tripleo06:20
lifelessrpodolyaka1: morning!06:21
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rpodolyaka1lifeless: hey! I pushed some updates to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60285/06:22
rpodolyaka1intergrated api samples left06:22
rpodolyaka1hope to finish this today06:22
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lifelessrpodolyaka1: awesome06:28
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SpamapSlifeless: no that is not a bug in heat. That is how heat works. update diffs templates. It does not diff with reality. That is what the new converge command does.06:45
SpamapSlifeless: re "not passed params == same as existing" ... I don't know, we should test that.06:47
SpamapSlifeless: and I don't recallyou asking about images.. so sorry for being distracted by physical things all day.06:48
lifelessSpamapS: that was yesterday :)06:48
SpamapSeven worse :-P06:48
lifelessSpamapS: Was mordred right about it being useful ?06:48
SpamapSdistracted _and_ forgetful06:48
SpamapSlifeless: yes, immensely useful. We should expect a gang of HP devs to start reporting bugs in the immediate future.06:49
lifelessSpamapS: so I don't get 'converge', it seems like thats what heat should be doing always06:49
lifelessbut perhaps ECHANNEL for that06:49
SpamapSlifeless: converge is expensive.06:49
lifelesswhy?06:49
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SpamapSlifeless: until tomorrow. :P07:11
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Update login.defs on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6283009:27
erwan_taflifeless: but how do you boot local then after ?09:29
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erwan_taflifeless: by tweaking the bios to ask a local boot ?09:30
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rpodolyakaerwan_taf: are talking about BM deploys? boot is done over PXE again, but boot config is modified after the image is deployed, so that a target image kernel is booted instead of deploy kernel/ramdisk09:35
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erwan_tafrpodolyaka: yes we speak about BM deploys here09:38
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erwan_tafrpodolyaka: so there isn't any localboot on a BM server ?09:39
erwan_tafrpodolyaka: only pxe booting for both deploy & exec ?09:39
erwan_tafno grub/extlinux/whatever ?09:39
rpodolyakaerwan_taf: you can install grub09:40
rpodolyakaerwan_taf: but PXE booting is used as well09:40
erwan_taflifeless: did you case occured on booting with grub or by booting on PXE ?09:40
erwan_taf+r09:41
rpodolyakafrom what I see, lifeless posted a pxe boot config09:42
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rpodolyakathough I'm completely out of context and might give misleading advice :)09:42
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure sbin paths are in $PATH  https://review.openstack.org/6245509:43
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erwan_tafrpodolyaka: in fact, lifeless was experiencing some invalid opcode at boot time on his HP servers09:48
erwan_tafrpodolyaka: I have the same issue by the past and solved it by switching from LOCALBOOT 0 to LOCALBOOT -109:48
erwan_tafmeaning the way an option ROM is exiting can trigger this problem09:48
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erwan_tafso I was trying to understand his use case to see how close our experiences of the issue were09:49
erwan_tafI don't know tripleO very well by now and so asked questions on how it works to estimate when this opcode and who triggered it09:49
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Nova: make logging configurable...  https://review.openstack.org/6251509:53
Ngmorning10:07
kuiGheRivero: hi10:12
GheRiverohi all10:13
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kuiGheRivero: for the commit:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62594/     is there any method to align element setting for both build time and run time?10:16
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kuiGheRivero:  export NODE_DIST="ubuntu apt-sources"10:17
kuiGheRivero:  How about this above setting ?10:17
GheRiveroif you are using devtest scripts, that could be an option, but also could be EXTRA_ELEMENTS10:21
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GheRiveroand for different enviroments, you can use pre-install.d and post-install-d hooks if you want to differenciate build and run time10:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Update login.defs on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6283010:25
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kuiGheRivero:  For EXTRA_ELEMENTS, I should set "export EXTRA_ELEMENTS='cloud-init-nocloud apt-sources'", is that right ?10:33
GheRiveroyeah. cloud-init-nocloud is neede by the seed image build10:34
GheRiverofor the others images , you can use UNDERCLOUD_DIB_EXTRA_ARGS and OVERCLOUD_DIB_EXTRA_ARGS10:36
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kuiGheRivero: To align all the scenario, I should set all of these variables to add "apt-sources",  right ?10:40
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Fix parameters pass to fetch_flavor()  https://review.openstack.org/6284110:42
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kuiGheRivero: I will add more comment in commit message.10:43
GheRiveroNODE_DIST for all the seed, undercloud and overcloud, and EXTRA_ELEMENTS, UNDERCLOUD_DIB_EXTRA_ARGS and OVERCLOUD_DIB_EXTRA_ARGS just for one of them10:45
openstackgerritKui Shi proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element to modify /etc/apt/sources.list in dib  https://review.openstack.org/6259410:45
kuiGheRivero: Got it.10:45
openstackgerritJiri Tomasek proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: List views for Nodes in Resources management  https://review.openstack.org/6080710:45
kuiGheRivero: I submit the patch again, would you review it please  ?10:46
GheRiveroyeah, sure10:46
GheRiveromy question is, could be an scenario when you build a image using your local mirror and upload the image to some public cloud when your local mirror is not available? can be an improvement in the future10:48
kuiGheRivero: I suppose the 'local mirror" user supplied is an permanent and public.   e.g. China has some mirrors for ubuntu, they are public and fast the original one.10:52
kuiGheRivero: That is the reason/scenario that I want to add this element.10:53
GheRiverowhat about a local mirror as an 'internal workplace mirror' not accesible from public clouds?  (Not an issue for this patch, but as a future ToDo)10:56
GheRiveroabout the current review, i have my doubts about metion the DIB_EXTRA* NODE_DIST options. They are for a different project (tripleo-incubator) although tighly coupled10:58
kuiGheRivero: yes, that is a scenario we should consider in future.   the "internal workplace mirror" are helpful to accelearte development.  The official built image should not use this element, maybe.10:59
kuiGheRivero: so, how about adding more words:  If you want to use this element in tripleo project, you can setting DIB_EXTRA* varialbles....11:02
GheRiveroi wouldn't mention anything :)11:04
kuiGheRivero: Fine, I will update it soon.11:05
openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Use Sampe config generator from Oslo  https://review.openstack.org/6284411:05
openstackgerritKui Shi proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element to modify /etc/apt/sources.list in dib  https://review.openstack.org/6259411:06
kuiGheRivero: submitted  again11:07
GheRiverocool11:07
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GheRiveroone small issue in the review11:16
GheRiverosince ubuntu doesn-t depend of it anymore, if we add it, we must provide a DIB_APT_SOURCE11:17
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GheRiveroand the message should be more clear for this case11:18
kuiGherivero: OK,  I should just update the prompt message with a clean one, and exit 1, right ?11:22
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GheRivero:)11:22
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kuiGheRivero: changed as follows, it that fine ?11:25
kuiif [ -z "$DIB_APT_SOURCES" ] ; then11:25
kui    echo "To make use of apt-sources element, you must assign"11:25
kui    echo "a sources.list file for DIB_APT_SOURCES"11:25
kui    exit 111:25
GheRiveronice11:27
openstackgerritKui Shi proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element to modify /etc/apt/sources.list in dib  https://review.openstack.org/6259411:28
kuiGheRivero: OK, submitted11:28
kuiGheRivero: Thanks & Have a good day !11:33
GheRiveroyou too11:34
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NgGheRivero: how come you only +1'd that, you're core now, right? :)11:48
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GheRiveroNg: right. But I will need some time to get more confident with that. With great power, comes great responsibility :)11:57
NgGheRivero: :)11:59
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Fixes in do_flavor_delete() method  https://review.openstack.org/6284112:59
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix package-mappings for openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6287413:26
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix the grub2 config location for non Ubuntu/Debian systems  https://review.openstack.org/6288513:55
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openstackgerritKui Shi proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element to modify /etc/apt/sources.list in dib  https://review.openstack.org/6259414:02
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Set the correct path to os-collect-config  https://review.openstack.org/6289014:07
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Do not install unneeded python-zmq package  https://review.openstack.org/6289314:18
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add quotes around $DISTRO  https://review.openstack.org/6290614:47
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openstackgerritJiri Tomasek proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: List views for Nodes in Resources management  https://review.openstack.org/6080715:09
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mariosrunning devtest - keystone isn't coming up on the seed - http://fpaste.org/62908/80828138/ any clues? i can ssh into seed - is there some log file i can look at there?15:34
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rpodolyakamarios: I'd start from analyzing os-collect-config logs15:36
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mariosrpodolyaka: thanks but where? ;)15:39
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rpodolyakamarios: /var/logs/upstart/os-collect-config.log for ubuntu, but have not idea where logs are in Fedora :)15:39
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mariosrpodolyaka: hehe thx. i have /var/log/os-apply-config but not collect-config15:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: List views for Nodes in Resources management  https://review.openstack.org/6080715:45
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SpamapSstatus=1 is because of | notcompute          | bcdb0ffb-a6f3-4957-89c9-493436f2a6be | ClientException: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-efb1dd45-6d29-479d-a9a4-19e4647956df) | CREATE_FAILED      | 2013-12-18T03:36:58Z |15:46
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SpamapSlifeless: FYI when you are around.. glance resources are complicated and not as helpful as I'd hoped15:48
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SpamapSlifeless: ultimately we just need to use the ID's.15:48
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Ngrpodolyaka: is anything missing from 59468? it looks pretty good to me, and since it's the bottom of the dependencies I thought I'd start there :)15:51
openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add quotes around $DISTRO  https://review.openstack.org/6290615:53
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rpodolyakaNg: sorry, was afk16:02
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rpodolyakaNg: so, I rebased the whole series today (a change to rebuild was merged to master that replaced instance dicts with nova objects). This one must be ready for review/testing16:05
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rpodolyakaNg: currently I'm working on adding tests to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60285/16:05
rpodolyakaNg: will push the latest version of the series in a few minutes16:07
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rpodolyakaNg: ok, so the latest version is on review, but I haven't tried to run devtest story with these patches applied after that unpleasant rebase yet16:14
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Use exceptions from common Oslo code  https://review.openstack.org/6292816:25
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add tempest element  https://review.openstack.org/5047716:49
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add ovsbridge option to configure-vm  https://review.openstack.org/6293917:13
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SpamapScompute couldn't communicate with the controller17:15
SpamapSbut then it started working17:15
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Update toci_gate_test.sh to use test_env  https://review.openstack.org/6182917:20
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Ngis it actually even possible to trigger source-repositories to pull from a gerrit review?17:41
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lifelessSpamapS: we do?18:14
lifelesserwan_taf: we netboot everytime18:15
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SpamapSlifeless: yes, image names are not unique in glance.18:17
SpamapSlifeless: so while it has worked, it is not likely to be as robust as ids.18:17
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lifelessSpamapS: sure, but thats a user choice right?18:22
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lifelessSpamapS: but anyhow - next thing to get use experimenting with this will be to fix that18:23
lifelessand turn the update strategy into REPLACE_PRESERVING_EPHEMERAL18:23
lifelessI think we can set that in stackrc for tripleo-cd - little awkward but will do the job18:23
lifelessrpodolyaka: how goes the stack ?18:24
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lifelesspleia2: dprince: want to meet nowish rather than in 2h ?18:35
dprincelifeless: fine w/ me but derekh will likely miss out18:36
pleia2lifeless: I'm on a call right now, could do in 20 min18:36
lifelessdprince: ah, I knew he had family time but I thought it wa a little later18:36
pleia2I'd like to have derekh though18:36
lifelessme too18:36
lifelessso here's whats up with me18:36
lifelessI have a blood test this morning - one of the 'go in fasted with no specific appt'18:37
lifelesswhere you get FIFO served18:37
lifelessC needs to go to kindy in ~90m18:37
dprincelifeless: ah, those fun ones18:37
lifelessand I tend to faint with deeper-than-subcutaneous needle18:37
lifelessso I need to arrange with Lynne to drive me down and pick me up18:38
dprincelifeless: lets chat now, and then pleia2 and I can chat w/ derekh latter too18:38
lifelessif it all pans out I'll be around at the relevant right times, but yeah18:38
lifelessdprince: lets wait that 20m for pleia2 ?18:38
lifelessI suspect C will sleep through,since she was up for hours last night :(18:38
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SpamapSConflict occurred attempting to store project. (1062, "Duplicate entry 'default-admin' for key 'domain_id'") (HTTP 409)18:50
SpamapSlifeless: agreed18:50
SpamapSlifeless: working on an image id change now18:50
lifelessSpamapS: cool, thanks18:52
lifelessSpamapS: thats a new one18:52
dprincelifeless/pleia2: chat in 8 minutes then...18:52
SpamapSlifeless: I believe that is happening because the update did not actually rebuild themachines, so state was not lost.18:56
SpamapSlifeless: so that one is directly attributable to using names vs. ids. :-P18:56
lifelessSpamapS: it might be because my update to use update totally failed to make the admin setup stuff idempotent18:56
lifelessSpamapS: because of a massive thinko in my head :)18:57
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lifelessSpamapS: I'm inclined to bypass the one-time-setup stuff rather than making it idempotent; I think that captures intent better and will highlight state preservation fails18:58
lifelessSpamapS: not updating the machines at all will clearly preserve state:)18:59
lifelesspleia2: dprince: ok?19:00
dprincelifeless: yep, one minute19:00
pleia2yep, let's go19:01
SpamapSlifeless: right, "one time setup" is not in the same layer as "give me a working cloud with the latest images"19:01
SpamapSlifeless: and I am still quite inclined to put all of that one time setup stuff in a heat template. :)19:01
lifelessI'll put a patch for that together19:01
SpamapSlifeless: note that Heat has recently grown neutron admin-y stuff so you can define the entire networking/router setup now too.19:02
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lifelessSpamapS: I don't believe it :)19:20
lifelessSpamapS: I believe it can define stuff in the neutron below, not in the neutron above.19:20
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SpamapSlifeless: I don't know if I agree anymore that we can't just do it in the heat above if the information is going to be in the neutron above anyway. :-P19:25
SpamapSlifeless: but anyway, if we still hold firm on that.. multi-cloud is in dev now :-P19:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix package-mappings for openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6287419:27
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix the grub2 config location for non Ubuntu/Debian systems  https://review.openstack.org/6288519:37
lifelessSpamapS: mmmmm I still don't understand the attraction there19:49
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lifelessSpamapS: I'm nervous at the idea, and can't really articulate why.19:56
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Don't do one-time setup when updating a cloud.  https://review.openstack.org/6297620:11
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Revert "Work around neutron floatingip race condition"  https://review.openstack.org/6297920:14
SpamapSlifeless: the attraction is a delcarative way to specify the one-time config20:14
lifelessSpamapS: that itself isn't interesting though is it? It's ongoing assertion of config thats valuable?20:15
dprincepleia2/lifeless/derekh: here goes...20:15
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SpamapSlifeless: orchestrating the delete/creation when necessary.. I think it is useful, just not highly compelling or worth a lot of effort to move toward.20:20
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use Image IDs to make image based updates work  https://review.openstack.org/6298220:36
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Use sample config generator from Oslo  https://review.openstack.org/6284420:53
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Update toci_gate_test.sh to use test_env  https://review.openstack.org/6182922:15
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Adding testenv worker wrapper script  https://review.openstack.org/6105222:15
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lifelessback22:38
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lifelessSpamapS: reviewed23:10
SpamapSlifeless: that does sound fancy :)23:11
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kuilifeless: hi23:25
kuilifeless: I have updated the commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62594/23:25
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lifelesskui: cool, folk will review it23:25
kuilifeless: OK, thanks23:25
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use Image IDs to make image based updates work  https://review.openstack.org/6298223:34
SpamapSlifeless: ^^ better?23:41
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openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add mock api calls to the UI  https://review.openstack.org/6255423:52
SpamapSroot     11493 99.8  0.0 461040  3128 ?        Rs   14:07 105:03 qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 --cache=writeback /home/clint/src/undercloud.qcow223:52
SpamapSI didn't think that we used qemu-nbd anymore23:52
lifelessSpamapS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/122466923:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1224669 in diskimage-builder "disk-image-create doesn't export the kernel and ramdisk" [Medium,Triaged]23:53
SpamapShm23:54
SpamapSthis one almost seems stuck23:54
lifelessit should be easy to fix that bug23:55
lifelesswith the work Ng did to export initramfses23:55
SpamapSI think I interrupted load-image while I was testing those new changes in some weird way that left it running23:56
SpamapSand slamming the CPU23:57
openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add mock api calls to the UI  https://review.openstack.org/6255423:58
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