Thursday, 2013-12-19

openstackgerritChris Jones proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add gerrit support to source-repositories.  https://review.openstack.org/6302100:00
openstackgerritChris Jones proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Log unsupported source repository types.  https://review.openstack.org/6302200:00
Nglifeless: yeah that one should be pretty easy. I was going to take a crack at it last week, but didn't get to it00:02
Ngr63021 lets you do:00:02
Ngdeclare -x DIB_REPOLOCATION_nova="https://review.openstack.org/openstack/nova"00:03
Ngdeclare -x DIB_REPOREF_nova="refs/changes/12/59312/17"00:03
Ngdeclare -x DIB_REPOTYPE_nova="gerrit"00:03
Ngand get a devtest.sh run with all of the nova rebuild patches (unless they've been rebased during the day and the refspec needs updating, natch ;)00:03
Ngand with that, the sleeping calls00:08
lifelesscool00:09
lifeless00:09
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openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Replace references to Quantum with Neutron in docs  https://review.openstack.org/6302600:20
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devanandabtw, i found a work-around for the "rebooting seed borks neutron" problem, which seems to still be affecting me (as of build yesterday morning)00:41
devanandadelete the ports, subnets, and nets from neutron. then call setup-neutron again, then delete and re-add my baremetal node, wait ~2 minutes, and I can "heat stack-create ... undercloud" again00:42
pleia2oh good, that's much better than "don't reboot seed"00:44
devanandaindeed00:44
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Heat patchset has hit trunk.  https://review.openstack.org/6303400:56
lifelessSpamapS: mordred: did you see http://www.slideshare.net/daniel_bilar/acoustic-20131218 ?00:57
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lifelessSpamapS: care to approve my fix for ^ ?01:10
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pleia2lifeless: as I go through some of these scripts I'm noticing a fair number of missing license headers on scripts in tripleo-incubator/scripts (particularly glaring in our devtest*.sh scripts), what's our policy here?01:31
lifelesspleia2: LALALALALALALALALALALALA01:31
pleia2well it's now logged!01:31
lifelesseavesdrop go away!01:31
lifelesspleia2: seriously? We should add em.01:32
pleia2lifeless: I might just swoop through and do them all in one commit then01:32
pleia2should only take 20 minutes or so to grep through git to grab all copyright holders (mostly hp and rh anyway)01:32
lifelesspleia2: meh, do it in late jan01:32
pleia2hah, ok01:33
lifelesspleia2: 20m should get boot-seed-vm fixed ;)01:33
lifelessand thats /way/ more urgent01:33
pleia2ok01:33
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openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Consolidate under and overcloud passwd scripts  https://review.openstack.org/6304402:28
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pleia2I didn't break getopt this time, I promise02:30
pleia2hopefully02:30
pleia2wait, I did02:31
openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Consolidate under and overcloud passwd scripts  https://review.openstack.org/6304402:32
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lifelesspleia2: your comment is confusing me https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63044/2/scripts/devtest_overcloud.sh02:35
lifelesspleia2: if it defaults to undercloud, how is -c OVERCLOUD not needed?02:36
pleia2oh nice, I commented in the wrong file02:36
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pleia2it may be EOD time :)02:37
openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use Image IDs to make image based updates work  https://review.openstack.org/6298202:44
SpamapSpleia2: IMO before you add them we need a bash hacking equivalent.02:45
SpamapSpleia2: (before you add license headers, sorry)02:45
lifelessSpamapS: how is that conected?02:49
asalkeldlifeless, would you mind resending that sql with a new gpg key (I had to make a new one 5E28FB23)02:49
lifelessasalkeld: LOL02:49
asalkeld(angus@salkeld.id.au)02:49
asalkeldI make that key you used 2 years ago02:50
asalkeldand lost it :(02:50
asalkeldtrying to educate my self on pgp02:50
asalkeldbit of a pain02:50
lifelessasalkeld: have you pushed it up to subkeys.pgp.net ?02:53
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asalkeldI did to another server, syncing that one no too02:54
lifelessgot it02:55
lifelessis 1D94 75AF 326A ADB2 78C3  879E ACBC 3F31 5E28 FB23 your fingerprint ?02:55
SpamapSlifeless: we need a bash checker that makes sure we don't backslide on license headers, etc.02:56
clarkbrun hacking on it and only have it run that one rule >_>02:56
lifelessSpamapS: we don't need one to fix a glaring bug02:56
lifelessasalkeld: ^02:57
asalkeldsorry dude, getting there02:57
SpamapSlifeless: There are other benefits. It can just run 'bash -n' too. Anyhoo, I just prefer to fix the actual bug before attacking the symptoms. :-P Not going to enforce it or anything.02:57
asalkeldlifeless, what command do you want me to run?02:59
lifelessasalkeld: gpg2 --fingerprint angus@salkeld.id.au02:59
lifelessshould come back with just one thing02:59
lifelessmatch up the primary key fingerprint02:59
asalkeldKey fingerprint = 1D94 75AF 326A ADB2 78C3  879E ACBC 3F31 5E28 FB2302:59
asalkeldlooks the same03:00
asalkeldsorry lifeless, never got into gpg before03:00
lifelesssent03:02
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asalkeldlifeless, groan - I tried to get smart an pratise backing up / restoring and f'd up - sigh03:08
lifelessasalkeld: orly03:09
asalkeldwhere is the gun03:09
lifelessasalkeld: you *don't* say?03:09
asalkeldI think I am a test of usablity, this is failing03:09
asalkeld  --export-ownertrust03:10
asalkeldwho would have thought03:10
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asalkeldlifeless, I sent you an email with my new and working key - when you have a moment04:41
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lifelessasalkeld: 8417 81C4 3BE3 7E25 9E6C  ED7B 5AC3 6012 F166 35A8 is the fingerprint ?05:04
asalkeldyip05:04
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lifelesstry that05:06
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asalkeldlifeless, if I change your sql dump from:05:58
asalkeldENGINE=InnoDB AUTO_INCREMENT=1166 DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;05:58
asalkeldto05:58
asalkeldENGINE=InnoDB AUTO_INCREMENT=1166 DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8;05:58
asalkeldit works05:58
asalkeldseems like the latin1 charset is causing some trouble05:59
asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/031_stack_lock.py#L3106:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use Image IDs to make image based updates work  https://review.openstack.org/6298206:31
lifelessasalkeld: not sure why it's latin106:34
lifelessasalkeld: did something change in prior migrations?06:34
asalkeldno but it seems the varchar thinks it is utf806:34
asalkeldthen the foreign key looks for a latin106:35
asalkeldand can't find it06:35
asalkeldlifeless, do you know if those comments do anything?06:36
asalkeld /*!40101 SET NAMES utf8 */06:36
asalkeld /*!40101 SET character_set_client = utf8 */;06:36
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asalkeldit *might* be setting the default varchar to utf806:36
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openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: configure-vm: refactor template formatting  https://review.openstack.org/6305706:39
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rpodolyaka1morning tripleo06:47
lifelessrpodolyaka1: morning06:48
lifelessrpodolyaka1: I believe jog0 has been hacking the stack06:48
rpodolyaka1lifeless: hey! cool!06:48
rpodolyaka1I had a kind of unpleasant merge conflict to solve yesterday (rebuild() was rewritten to use unified objects models instead of instance dicts)06:49
rpodolyaka1so I'm still working on API samples06:49
lifelesshah, nice06:50
rpodolyaka1but API samples must be the last thing on the list to remove WIP status from that patch06:52
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lifelessSpamapS: do you want to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62976/ ?07:09
lifelessSpamapS: it's what I meant when I pinged you about it; it should unbreak tripleo-cd07:09
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SpamapSlifeless: approving. We need to open a bug, I think, that states that we have no automated way to assert those bits though07:14
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Don't do one-time setup when updating a cloud.  https://review.openstack.org/6297607:15
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mariosmorning gents - am trying to revive my devtest setup so i can test the removal of workaround on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1254555 - seed comes up but fails on waitin for keystone. real reason is problem with the power driver on seed (ssh --> var/log/messages: http://fpaste.org/63121/13874377/ ) - any clues ? :)07:23
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1254555 in neutron "tenant does not see network that is routable from tenant-visible network until neutron-server is restarted" [Low,Confirmed]07:23
SpamapSmarios: interesting07:29
mariosSpamapS: will try a few more things, worst case I will open the review (i tested the neutron fix on devstack and can't recreate the bug, i.e. restarting q-svc the networks remain in place/visible) and ask people to test it; we can at least start progress and I can fix my setup in parallel07:32
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SpamapSmarios: I just built myself a new devtest today from scratch on Ubuntu and that script completed fine07:38
mariosSpamapS: ok thanks, good to know at least its something here/fedora specific. should it matter if i invoke devtest as 'root' vs as 'stack'07:39
SpamapSmarios: devtest should, I believe, sudo when it needs to07:40
SpamapSwhich is mostly deep within diskimage-builder I think07:40
mariosok, tx. how do you run it? do you create a 'stack' user ?07:41
SpamapSmarios: I run it as me07:42
marioshehe, k tx07:42
SpamapSmarios: but I have not had the automated thing ever finish.. I usually do a few steps by hand after a failure07:42
mariosSpamapS: ah, ok - well, fwiw i've also only ever been able to get a complete setup 'by hand' in the past. its just been a while and i thought the script was 'there' (almost ;) )07:43
SpamapSmarios: I wish it was.07:45
SpamapSmarios: Ng has been working on that, IIRC07:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Set the correct path to os-collect-config  https://review.openstack.org/6289007:47
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SpamapSdoh07:49
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SpamapSwhy would you want to explicitly set the path of a command like os-collect-config anyway07:49
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* SpamapS shakes head.. systemd ye have confused us all07:49
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Do not install unneeded python-zmq package  https://review.openstack.org/6289307:50
SpamapSlifeless: I think we should just alter those tables back to utf807:50
SpamapSlifeless: and I'll modify the mysql element to assert utf8 as the default charset07:50
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add quotes around $DISTRO  https://review.openstack.org/6290607:52
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Configure os-collect-config on seed properly  https://review.openstack.org/6306508:07
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lifelessSpamapS: cool08:14
SpamapSlifeless: testing modified mysql element on fedora ATM08:14
SpamapSthe fedora cloud images..08:14
SpamapSinstall a lot of updates.. :-P08:14
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lifelessSpamapS: F20 was just released08:20
lifelessSpamapS: should have to install?08:20
SpamapSPerhaps we need to update dib.. dunno08:21
SpamapSmight explain why mirrors are timing out tho08:21
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix building mysql element on non-upstart systems  https://review.openstack.org/6307709:24
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Ngmorning09:27
lifelesswait,what?09:31
SpamapSlifeless: that latest patch?09:33
SpamapSI'm not sure how anything has worked.. :-P09:33
SpamapS./boot-stack/install.d/01-boot-stack:install-packages mysql-server python-mysqldb09:37
SpamapSah09:37
SpamapSwe're not using the mysql element09:37
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SpamapSok thats enough revelations for the day09:39
lifelessSpamapS: we perhaps should :)09:43
lifelessSpamapS: no, I was wait, whatting ng's statement of morning09:43
Ngit totally is morning!09:46
erwan_ta-lo lifeless09:49
erwan_ta-lifeless: I was wondering if the bug you had was by trying to boot locally or not09:49
erwan_ta-lifeless: because it seems that you can work in a full pxe system even after installation09:50
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add ovsbridge option to configure-vm  https://review.openstack.org/6293909:54
lifelesserwan_ta-: no, we don't try to boot locally09:54
lifelessnot intentionally anyhow09:55
erwan_ta-lifeless: ok09:55
erwan_ta-lifeless: are you able to estimate when this bug occured : i.e before or after the pxelinux stuff, etc..09:56
erwan_ta-in what part of the boot sequence (which is long) this is happening09:56
erwan_ta-and what release of pxelinux09:56
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lifelesserwan_ta-: no, no, and the one installed on ubuntu10:04
lifelessI will poke around tomorrow, or Ng  might be able to answer in more detail :)10:04
Ngwhat what10:05
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erwan_ta-lifeless: ideally, making a moving of the booting process would be so usefull10:09
erwan_ta-movie10:09
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lifelesserwan_ta-: we don't have anyone on the team even in the same city as the servers :)10:17
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Replace references to Quantum with Neutron in docs  https://review.openstack.org/6302610:25
erwan_ta-lifeless: maybe via the ilo ?10:25
erwan_ta-lifeless: recording the desktop showing the ilo booting10:25
erwan_ta-lifeless: if you see this opcode error it means you have the view on the server at this time10:26
lifelesserwan_ta-: I saw that when activating the textcons on the ilo when it looked like it hadn't booted10:28
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lifelesserwan_ta-: it cleared just after I switched to the textcons, so no idea how long it had been sitting in the textcons buffer10:28
lifelessNg: what what :)10:28
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derekhany thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62979/1/scripts/devtest_overcloud.sh I see it has a partial fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/125455510:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1254555 in neutron "tenant does not see network that is routable from tenant-visible network until neutron-server is restarted" [Low,Confirmed]10:35
derekhbut new report as being reproduced on bug10:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Revert "Work around neutron floatingip race condition"  https://review.openstack.org/6297910:36
derekhshould we just merge anyways and find out10:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Heat patchset has hit trunk.  https://review.openstack.org/6303410:37
Ngderekh: we just did ;)10:37
derekhNg: ahh well, thats the end of that conversation :-)10:37
Ngderekh: fwiw, lifeless did suggest in the commit message that this was to see if it is indeed fixed10:38
lifelessAlso in the meeting this morning10:38
rpodolyakaNg: derekh: this might sound crazy but enikanorov suggested that restarting neutron-server might actually trigger that issue10:38
derekhYup, but that was before the new report appeared on the bug10:38
lifelesswhich neither derekh or Ng were at (but the mintes are on the minute site)10:38
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derekhThe new report on the bug is why I brought it up here, comment 8 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62979/1/scripts/devtest_overcloud.sh10:39
derekhanyways its merged now, so lets just wait and see10:40
rpodolyaka:)10:40
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* derekh must look at the links befor he pastes them10:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix building mysql element on non-upstart systems  https://review.openstack.org/6307710:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element to modify /etc/apt/sources.list in dib  https://review.openstack.org/6259411:01
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Configure os-collect-config on seed properly  https://review.openstack.org/6306511:03
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openstackgerritChris Jones proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix source-repositories to work with gerrit refs.  https://review.openstack.org/6302111:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix the grub2 config location for non Ubuntu/Debian systems  https://review.openstack.org/6288511:27
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openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: configure-vm: refactor template formatting  https://review.openstack.org/6305711:32
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Ngwe need to get markmc into core :)12:19
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* derekh nodes12:24
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add ovsbridge option to configure-vm  https://review.openstack.org/6293912:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: configure-vm: refactor template formatting  https://review.openstack.org/6305712:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Fixes in do_flavor_delete() method  https://review.openstack.org/6284112:46
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mariosSpamapS: ping, still around?14:08
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openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Remove management node UI  https://review.openstack.org/6312814:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Remove management node UI  https://review.openstack.org/6312814:30
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GheRiverohi all14:46
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openstackgerritMarios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Manually add d2to1 to pypi-mirror element as temp fix  https://review.openstack.org/6313615:05
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openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix missing space in devstest_overcloud.sh  https://review.openstack.org/6314915:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix missing space in devstest_overcloud.sh  https://review.openstack.org/6314915:56
SpamapSmarios: No I wasn't around then, but I have just sat down for the day (0756 for me in Los Angeles).15:56
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Ngbah, no derek16:12
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Ngdammit16:12
NgI was about to talk to slagle too16:12
SpamapSNg: you can talk to me... but.. expect snark. A lot.16:13
NgSpamapS: I was just going to follow up on the -1s on 63021 about gerrit support in source-repositories not working with offline mode16:14
Ngand I was going to point out that it only actually breaks offline mode if you've hardcoded a gerrit repo/ref into an element16:15
Ngoverriding an element with DIB_REPOblah unconditionally disables caching16:15
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Ngand at the risk of consuming local disk space, I was going to suggest that we just cache the overrides too16:16
Ngit seems to me that it would be particularly useful where you are overriding the repo, because you're probably doing some kind of dev/test iteration and shortening the loops has to be Good™16:17
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SpamapSNg: agreed that we should cache the overrides16:25
SpamapSNg: perhaps we should also consider a way to do cache GC as well.16:26
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SpamapSlifeless: when you're around, is there some reason tripleo-cd is stopped?17:32
* Ng bails a bit early to go and pick up some dinner17:39
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Add netdevice value type  https://review.openstack.org/6318818:23
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lifelessSpamapS: I imagine it hit upstarts error threshold18:54
lifelessSpamapS: I have not stopped it18:54
SpamapSok cool restarting18:55
SpamapSwhy is nova-conductor still logging at DEBUG level? HRM18:56
SpamapSoh18:56
SpamapSbecause logging.conf says to18:56
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lifelessso how goes tripleo-cd19:13
lifelessSpamapS: what would be the most useful thing for me to do?19:16
lifelessToday is the last work day of the year for HP NZers19:16
lifelessand I have the 'office' lunch at 1230 - leave here in < 4 hours19:17
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pleia2lifeless: there has been chatter on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63044/ - any thoughts? I am not thrilled with markmc's idea because I think -p UNDER_ is clunky (worse than -c), but what about james's note?19:23
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pleia2oh look, you're on it :) thank you19:25
lifelesspleia2: I think all the feedback is bikeshedding except the bit about removing the files ;)19:25
pleia2hehe19:25
lifelesspleia2: I cam because you pinged me19:25
pleia2ok19:25
lifelesss/cam/am/19:25
devanandalifeless: re bug tracker thing, have you talked to / are you aware of krotscheck?19:27
lifelessdevananda: the person? Yes, I think so. I don't have a bug tracker thing paged in though...19:28
SpamapSlifeless: let's see where tripleo-cd's latest run goes19:29
devanandalifeless: bug tracker thing we talked about >6mo ago19:29
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SpamapS| notcompute          | fcd29cd0-9247-465b-bec1-1204ffe9596a | state changed          | UPDATE_IN_PROGRESS | 2013-12-19T19:17:19Z |19:29
SpamapS| 22244758-754c-40c4-9194-bc4e0ab2981f | overcloud-NovaCompute0-nn7gqrc3pkzv | REBUILD | rebuild_spawning | Running     | ctlplane=10.10.16.174 |19:29
devanandalifeless: causes?19:30
lifelessdevananda: oh right, yes.19:30
lifelesshttps://github.com/causes-tracker/designdocs/blob/master/Manifesto.md19:30
devanandayep19:30
devanandalifeless: he's working on storyboard. i'm wondering to what degree these things overlap19:31
lifelessI don't think they really do19:31
lifelessstoryboard is an openstack specific task tracker with design points highly optimised for openstacks perceived needs19:32
lifelesscauses is a ground up rethink about how one handles user and machine gathered data about software issues19:32
devanandalifeless: you two should talk at some point :)19:33
lifelesssure19:33
lifelesswould be happy to19:33
SpamapSroot     13765 15.4  0.0  19500  1888 ?        D    19:33   0:11          \_ mkfs.ext3 -F -L ephemeral0 /dev/disk/by-path/ip-10.10.16.171:3260-iscsi-iqn-86776649-8996-4115-912c-d4548eb25d3c-lun-1-part119:34
SpamapSlifeless: perhaps we're not setting preserve ephemeral yet? :-P19:34
lifelessSpamapS: we're not19:35
SpamapSok good :)19:35
lifelessSpamapS: until we get the id thing landed we won't be rebuilding servers anyhow19:35
lifelessSpamapS: are we?19:35
SpamapSID thing landed19:35
lifelessok19:35
lifelessso in stackrc19:35
lifelessexport OVERCLOUD_IMAGE_UPDATE_POLICY=REBUILD_PRESERVE_EPHEMERAL19:35
lifelessand restart tripleo-cd19:35
SpamapSvery surprised that Heat landed that before it landed in nova btw :)19:36
SpamapS(glad, but surprised)19:36
SpamapSlifeless: note that we don't have to restart tripleo-cd19:37
SpamapSlifeless: it sources /root/stackrc in each loop iteration19:37
SpamapSlifeless: I think I know why deploys have gone slower actually19:39
SpamapSmkfs.ext3 on the ephemeral19:39
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SpamapS537GB worth of ext3 over iscsi19:40
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SpamapSlifeless: ugh so we're going to run into a new problem now. Updates don't actually wait for wait conditions again.19:42
SpamapSof course, we're just waiting for nova-compute anyway so it will work that way19:45
SpamapSbut I think it might fail because we'll only wait 5 minutes for that19:45
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SpamapSlifeless: good news is it looks like rebuild (without preserve ephemeral) does work19:46
lifelessSpamapS: SpamapS 537GB of writes to do mkfs ?19:47
lifelessSpamapS: we should do ext4 mkfs19:47
SpamapSlifeless: 537GB of total partition size19:47
SpamapSI'm sure a small percentage of that to write the FS19:47
lifelessSpamapS: 1500GB of partition size19:47
SpamapSbut that is still non-trivial amount of extra data to write19:47
lifelesssorry, 1000GB19:48
SpamapSlifeless: oh hm maybe I was looking at the wrong partition table19:48
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lifeless500GB /, 1000GB /mnt according to the flavor definition19:48
SpamapSok so yeah it timed out waiting for nova service-list to show a nova-compute19:48
SpamapSbecause we have no wait conditions on update19:49
lifelessok19:49
SpamapSlifeless: the problem is that wait conditions just wait until they're in a state of "COMPLETE"19:49
lifelessI'll work on mkfs.ext419:49
lifelessif you tackle the wait conditions19:49
SpamapSlifeless: they reach that state when Count == SignalCount19:49
SpamapSand updates don't reset SignalCount19:49
SpamapSI think we probably need a new type of wait condition that does reset the signal count on update.19:50
lifelessSpamapS: or we need a random uuid per update?19:51
lifelessSpamapS: turn it into a parameter, for now?19:51
SpamapSlifeless: we can't use parameters to rename things, and there is no parameter for waitcondition that would accept a uuid.19:51
SpamapSoh hmm19:52
SpamapSTimeout19:52
SpamapSI think we talked about this19:52
lifelesswe did19:52
SpamapSwe can tweak Timeout up/down by 1 second and it will work19:52
SpamapSwhile I land a patch in Heat for an UpdateWaitCondition19:53
SpamapSwhich would be a starting point for a CanaryUpdateWaitCondition actually. :)19:53
SpamapSlifeless: are you like me where you'd rather not take days off but your family will make you pay attention to them and stuff? :-P19:54
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lifelessSpamapS: well19:55
lifelessSpamapS: somewhat19:55
lifelessSpamapS: I have LCA papers to prep and things too19:56
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SpamapSlifeless: ahh yes19:56
lifelessso it will be more do whatever I want days rather than 'off', if you get me19:56
SpamapSYeah true19:56
lifelesswheee19:57
lifelessmaking a 1T ext3 fs takes a while19:57
lifelesswith the default parameters used by nova19:57
lifelessthis is on a 6 disk RAID6 array - 8K inode tables19:58
lifelessdisk are going batty19:58
SpamapSwe should consider XFS anyway ;)19:58
lifeless30M/second19:58
lifelessutterly random IOs19:59
lifelesswrite(3, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32768) = 3276820:01
lifelesslseek(3, 795913125888, SEEK_SET)        = 79591312588820:01
lifelesswtf ext3, wtf20:01
openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Consolidate under and overcloud passwd scripts  https://review.openstack.org/6304420:01
SpamapSlifeless: ok so timeout wobble won't work20:02
SpamapSlifeless: the state that is checked is in the handle..20:02
lifelessSpamapS: your hunch was right20:02
lifelessSpamapS: this is writing G's20:02
lifeless29839 be/4 root          0.00 B      2.34 G  0.00 % 98.06 % mkfs.ext3 -F /dev/lifelesswks-vg/test20:02
SpamapSlifeless: it sat there for many minutes so I knew it wasn't playing Canasta. :)20:02
lifelessthats only a partial run too20:02
lifelesstrying with ext4 now20:03
SpamapSlifeless: for my own morbid curiosity can you try XFS too?20:03
lifelesswhats xfs support like on (ubuntu, debian, RHEL, Suse) ?20:03
SpamapSAFAIK perfect20:03
SpamapSI've used it for every MySQL server I've built in production for years.20:03
SpamapSlast time I had to modprobe it was probably 2003.20:03
lifelessso way upwards of 5G20:04
SpamapSlifeless: it is superior to ext4 for basically every server workload except bazillions of deletes.20:04
lifelesseven if we did this locally20:04
lifelessit would be slow20:04
lifelessso xfs for local volumes under nova is fine too?20:04
SpamapSyes20:04
SpamapSprobably better20:04
lifelesswe could always use zfs20:05
SpamapSit handles concurrent writing particularly better than ext420:05
SpamapSz _IS_ after x20:05
SpamapSergo: better20:05
hewbrocca(now you have two problems)20:05
* lifeless successfully trolled20:05
lifelessI wonder20:06
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add tempest element  https://review.openstack.org/5047720:06
hewbroccaheh heh20:06
lifelesswould image builds be faster and better if we did them with xfs - serious question20:06
lifelesswe're making a new filesystem anyway20:06
lifelessand we keep hitting online resize bugs in ext420:06
lifelessdprince: ^20:06
SpamapSoh20:07
SpamapSXFS has no online shrink20:07
lifelessSpamapS: we don't do an online shrink though; we visit in person20:07
dprincelifeless: I'm still hitting those too intermittently.20:07
SpamapSI don't know if the cloud-utils resize thing will resize XFS.. looking20:07
dprincelifeless: going to be a real time sync to troubleshoot that one I'm afraid...20:08
lifelessdprince: I know20:08
lifelessdprince: I'm pondering an end-run20:08
dprincelifeless: As a side note I just got a null-modem cable so I can run get better output (via minicom or whatever) from ttys0 when this happens.20:09
dprincelifeless: this only happens to me on one of my baremetal machines so it seems to be somewhat hardware specific20:09
SpamapS\o/20:10
SpamapScloud-init resizes xfs20:10
SpamapSdprince: it may be geometry specific in that case20:10
lifelessreal    14m31.848s20:11
SpamapScloud-init will also resize btrfs, if we want to find a better pain source than toothpicks under our toenails20:11
lifelessreal    0m7.737s20:11
lifelessext4 ^20:11
SpamapSlifeless: yeah, extents ftw20:11
lifelessthought it would be way faster20:11
lifelessSpamapS: its not the extents20:11
SpamapS_more_ sparse superblocks?20:11
dprinceSpamapS: This is a 1TB drive, so it could be. CHanging the root partision size seems to help... but since it is intermittent it is hard to say20:12
lifelessSpamapS: nah, lazy init inodes20:12
SpamapSlifeless: OH20:12
lifelessSpamapS: that 5GB of IO was all writing \0\0\0\0\0\0\0 to the inodes20:12
SpamapSlifeless: xfs has the distinct advantage that its inode tables can be modified post-mkfs20:13
SpamapSlifeless: particularly good idea for root FS images where we are just guessing as to what it might be grown to20:14
lifelessso, in the name of conservatism, i'm going to just toggled ext3 -> ext420:14
lifelessin ephemeral20:14
SpamapSlifeless: good news regarding ext4. Is that a config option we can make default in nova?20:14
lifelessI will be raising that discussion in just a second :)20:14
SpamapScool20:14
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use pypi-openstack in devtest  https://review.openstack.org/6320620:15
* bnemec finally got his environment stable enough to do that^20:15
SpamapSlifeless: ok so regarding the waitcondition thing.. without modifications to Heat we are kind of stuck right now. I think the right thing is to raise the service-list timeout on updates and then we need to start looking closely at stevebaker's new software deployer thing which may solve this.20:15
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lifelessSpamapS: is steve's thing in trunk? Can it be in trunk next [work] week ?20:17
lifelessSpamapS: if not, I think we need to do a Q&D patch like an option to the waitcondition to reset everything on update20:17
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lifelessbecause stevebaker's thing is, AIUI, part of a much larger architectural work20:17
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SpamapSlifeless: closer look includes where it stands20:19
SpamapSlifeless: and agreed :)20:19
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dprincelifeless/SpamapS: in the HP CD cloud does the seed still act as the DHCP server for undercloud?20:28
jog0rpodolyaka1: ping20:28
lifelessdprince: we haven't rebuilt things since we moved to neutron everywhere, so the answer is not the answer for other regions20:28
lifelessdprince: but in principle - the seed is the DHCP server for the undercloud control plane machine yes20:29
lifelessdprince: via Neutron20:29
rpodolyaka1jog0:  pong20:30
dprincelifeless: Right. Eventually we'll want a kill off the seed and just have the undercloud stand on its own right?20:30
lifelessdprince: yes, once we have HA setups we can work on that20:30
jog0I have a question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59468/15/nova/compute/manager.py20:30
rpodolyaka1sure20:30
lifelessdprince: the seed is also the metadata and heat server for the undercloud too, today.20:31
jog0rpodolyaka1: hmm guess I didn't leave the comment in there20:31
jog0rpodolyaka1: do we always  want to do block device detach and re-attach?20:31
dprincelifeless: yep, got all that. Just wanted to make sure you guys had not done anything fancy (undocumented) to step off the seed yet. I'll follow a similar path with our RH CD cloud then.20:32
rpodolyaka1jog0: good question20:32
jog0if so we can pull that out of the driver side rebuild logic20:32
lifelessdprince: yeah, when teh time comes it will all go straight in trunk20:32
lifelessdprince: otherwise we can't expect a joint admin team to well, admin jointly20:32
rpodolyaka1jog0: we could, but it depends on how rebuild is implemented in a particular driver when to do detach/attach20:33
rpodolyaka1jog0: I mean, only driver knows that20:33
rpodolyaka1jog0: e.g. for BM we don't do destroy() at all20:34
rpodolyaka1jog0: and for libvirt we do destroy() + spawn()20:35
rpodolyaka1jog0: so I believe it's one the thing the driver must be in control of20:35
rpodolyaka1jog0: though, I agree, passing partials doesn't look nice :(20:35
lifelessrpodolyaka1: also, we should probably put up another step in the series to fix the ordering of detach/destroy as a separate thing20:36
rpodolyaka1lifeless: yeah, completely forgot about this20:36
jog0rpodolyaka1: why don't we detach attach?20:37
jog0because we don't have any volume support anyway?20:37
rpodolyaka1yeo20:37
rpodolyaka1*yep20:37
jog0rpodolyaka1: so don't we always want detach  retach .. just in our case it is a noop for now20:38
jog0lifeless: detach destroy order?20:38
lifelessarata is working on iscsi voodoo I think20:38
lifelessjog0: the existing rebuild code does this:20:38
lifeless detach_volumes20:38
lifeless  driver.destroy20:38
lifelesspoweroff does20:38
lifelessdestroy20:39
lifelessdetach20:39
lifelessI suspect rebuild is happily causing dirty filesystems everytime it's used.20:39
lifelessrpodolyaka1: ^ do I remember correctly?20:39
rpodolyaka1lifeless: yes, I think so20:40
* lifeless WATs at nova/virt/xenapi/vm_utils.py line 222720:40
jog0lifeless: ahh20:41
jog0lifeless rpodolyaka1: so are you both fine with moving detach_block_devices out of driver.rebuild, and just pass in the reattach info20:44
lifelessno20:45
lifelessbecause if the order is meant to be20:45
lifelessdestroy20:45
lifelessdetach20:45
lifelessyou can't move it out20:45
jog0lifeless: ack20:45
jog0lifeless: why should the order be that vs detach destroy20:46
lifelessnot sure, revisiting it now20:46
lifelessok, see _shutdown_instance20:46
lifelessdestory20:46
lifelessdetach20:46
lifelessjog0: oh, the order?20:47
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lifelessjog0: what happens if you detach a block device that's in use?20:47
jog0lifeless: bad things right20:47
jog0but does destroy allow for the volume to be cleaned up first20:48
jog0I thought destroy was the equivalent of 'pulling the power cable'20:48
lifelessit calls libvirt's destroy method20:49
lifelessI'm fairly sure thats a little graceful20:49
lifelessas there is a timeout facility on it20:49
jog0lifeless: I only recal that because there was a patch we reverted about graceful shutdown20:50
lifeless    destroy                        destroy (stop) a domain20:50
lifelessthats the primary interface to libvirt to turn off a vm20:50
lifelessit is equivalent to pushing the power button AIUI20:50
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lifelesspoint is though20:50
lifelessrebuild does the two ops in the opposite direction to shutdown20:50
lifelessthis is bonkers20:50
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lifelessregardless of gracefulness, it's almost certain to tickle bugs due to different expectations in driver writers20:51
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jog0lifeless: I would file a bug on this and come back to this after our patch set lands20:53
jog0as it doesn't touch us20:53
jog0for our codepath20:53
lifelessjog0: ok20:54
lifelessjog0: it does inform the question you ask though about moving the detach outside20:55
lifelessrather not have churn we don't need20:55
jog0lifeless: agreed20:55
jog0I won't touch it20:55
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lifelessI'm going to monkey patch in the ext3->4 change21:07
jog0geting  ready for a patch to the stack FYI21:14
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lifelessrestarted with ext4 patch21:19
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rpodolyaka1good night all21:34
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openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add mock api calls to the UI  https://review.openstack.org/6255421:40
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SpamapSlifeless: | f6d61e10-31a9-4cfb-91f4-3dd8b5a0e0c9 | undercloud-undercloud-rznm7hvopr3g | BUILD  | deleting   | NOSTATE     | ctlplane=192.0.2.2 |21:52
SpamapSlifeless: any idea how to get rid of that?21:52
SpamapSnova delete won't21:52
lifelessSpamapS: is that local?21:53
SpamapSlifeless: yeah I'm trying to test some heat patches out here in my dev env21:53
lifelessSpamapS: stop and start nova-compute21:53
lifelessthen try again21:53
SpamapSlifeless: ahh good thats what I just did. :)21:53
SpamapSinteresting.. nova resource replacement doesn't work on the seed node21:55
SpamapSbecause delete and subsequent boot doesn't leave enough time for nova to reclaim the resource21:55
lifelessseed only has one node attached21:55
lifelessthere's a bug open on that21:55
SpamapSyeah21:55
lifelessPRESERVE_EPHEMERAL should work21:55
SpamapSso this is testing the "retry on failed update"21:55
lifelesswell, you'll get lots of that ;)21:56
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SpamapSI think it would be fine if I had n+1 resources21:56
SpamapSand if I manually delete the node and let it be reclaimed before doing the retry that seems to be working21:57
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lifeless-> lunch do22:30
SpamapSlifeless: have fun and merry christmas :)22:34
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