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xuhaiwei | tchaypo: after solving the libvirt version problem, I got this error again | 01:15 |
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xuhaiwei | error: failed to get domain 'seed' error: Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'seed' | 01:15 |
jp_at_hp | slagle lifeless - I've tried to address your review comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85776 | 01:17 |
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Lotus907efi | SpamapS: You still around? | 01:21 |
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Lotus907efi | lifeless: you around? | 01:33 |
openstackgerrit | Gregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Remove superfluous double pound in _variables https://review.openstack.org/87425 | 01:33 |
openstackgerrit | Tzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Revert "Use HTTPClient from common apiclient code" https://review.openstack.org/87315 | 01:35 |
greghaynes | StevenK: wow youre fast ;) | 01:35 |
StevenK | greghaynes: You pushed it up as I was paying attention to IRC and let's face it, it's a trivial +1/-1 | 01:37 |
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tchaypo | huh | 01:55 |
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tchaypo | things i learnt from that chnage: you don't actually need the blank line after the paragraph and before the :: | 01:55 |
xuhaiwei | tchaypo: speaking to me? | 01:57 |
StevenK | mikal: The the other thing to keep in mind re: nova sprint is PyCon AU | 01:57 |
tchaypo | xuhaiwei: no, sorry, looking at greghaynes' change | 01:58 |
xuhaiwei | oh | 01:58 |
tchaypo | but reading back up to your problem | 01:58 |
tchaypo | what do you get when you "virsh list --all"? | 01:59 |
xuhaiwei | nothing | 01:59 |
tchaypo | so the "no domain with matching name" makes sense | 01:59 |
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tchaypo | From memory the issues you were talking about yesterday were caused by the fact that your hand-compiled libvirt uses different paths to the version you used to use? | 02:00 |
xuhaiwei | does that happen when running virsh start? | 02:00 |
tchaypo | If that's the case it won't be able to find the vms you created using the old version in the old location. | 02:01 |
xuhaiwei | tchaypo: I think so, and I reinstall it | 02:01 |
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tchaypo | You could go back to devtest_testenv to recreate them, or ifthey're still on disk somewhere you might be able to migrate them | 02:02 |
tchaypo | but I don't know how to do that, I'd suggest asking in #libvirt | 02:02 |
xuhaiwei | ok | 02:02 |
xuhaiwei | now tripleo is using libvirt 1.0.2, right? | 02:04 |
StevenK | I've been testing with the libvirt on my local machine which is 1.1.1 | 02:04 |
tchaypo | I don't think we specify any particular version, we just use whatever the OS has | 02:05 |
xuhaiwei | 1.0.2 is tested? | 02:05 |
tchaypo | with the caveat that we know the versions in some older releases (eg, ubuntu precise) are too old to work | 02:05 |
xuhaiwei | I checked the gate log, and it's using 1.0.2 | 02:06 |
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xuhaiwei | when I was using 0.9.8, I also met this error: Domain not found | 02:06 |
tchaypo | that error means that there's no vm (know as a "domain" in virsh) with that name | 02:07 |
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tchaypo | which might be because it was never created, or could be because you've mis-spelled the name, or could be some other reason | 02:08 |
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tchaypo | *grumble* go away for a few days, come back, and your overcloud is off the air because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1290486 | 02:29 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1290486 in tripleo "neutron-openvswitch-agent does not recreate flows after ovsdb-server restarts" [Critical,In progress] | 02:29 |
tchaypo | StevenK: I don't know why I thought you'd enjoy http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/commonwealth-bank-suffers-eftpos-internet-banking-outage-20140415-zquys.html | 02:32 |
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StevenK | Bwahaha | 02:50 |
StevenK | It couldn't happen to a nicer company. Oh wait, it could. | 02:51 |
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untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 03:00 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1302881 | 03:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1302881 in tripleo "incloud CIDR can overlap custom baremetal-network" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 03:00 |
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lifeless | Lotus907efi: hi | 03:13 |
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xuhaiwei | tchaypo: I ran devtest_testenv, and devtest_seed.sh succeeded, thank you. | 03:35 |
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lifeless | heat stack-delete overcloud | 03:47 |
lifeless | ERROR: Remote error: TimeoutError QueuePool limit of size 5 overflow 10 reached, connection timed out, timeout 30 | 03:47 |
lifeless | stevebaker: ^ | 03:47 |
lifeless | stevebaker: from heat | 03:47 |
stevebaker | lifeless: I've not seen that before | 04:00 |
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lifeless | stevebaker: yeah | 04:01 |
lifeless | stevebaker: heat-api-cfn is full of http://paste.openstack.org/show/75731/ | 04:02 |
stevebaker | lifeless: assuming nothing is leaking, maybe you just need to raise max_pool_size for your load | 04:03 |
tchaypo | my head aches. going for a walk to clear it. | 04:04 |
lifeless | stevebaker: 30 os-c-c instances polling is the only load on heat | 04:04 |
lifeless | stevebaker: I would kindof hope defaults sufficied for such a small cluster | 04:05 |
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stevebaker | yes | 04:05 |
stevebaker | anything logged from heat-engine? | 04:06 |
lifeless | nup | 04:07 |
lifeless | just the whinge about auto delete queues | 04:07 |
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stevebaker | lifeless: well, our oslo state is very old. Assuming it doesn't break something else this sync might help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86923/ | 04:15 |
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StevenK | lifeless: Have you submitted a pycon au talk, or are you even going? | 04:50 |
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lifeless | I haven't, I should, I hope to | 05:01 |
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StevenK | Bleh, a case statement in register-endpoint wasn't as much of a saving as I would have liked. | 05:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Replace huge if with case in register-endpoint https://review.openstack.org/87445 | 05:55 |
tchaypo | StevenK: you're not going to the user group meeting tonight, right? | 05:58 |
tchaypo | also, i misread that as "replace hugs with case" | 05:58 |
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StevenK | tchaypo: At Cisco, no. But I'd like to hear about it. | 06:01 |
tchaypo | I'll send an email tomorrow | 06:02 |
tchaypo | in other news - line 116 | 06:02 |
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tchaypo | coiuld be done simpler with ADMIN_SUFFIX=${ADMIN_SUFFIX:-$SUFFIX}, no? | 06:03 |
tchaypo | the verbose way is clearer though | 06:04 |
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xuhaiwei | when running overcloud.sh, I met this error: OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pypi/pastedeploy/' | 06:11 |
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tchaypo | this seems similar to the issues you had with MarkupSafe/markupsafe | 06:13 |
xuhaiwei | yes | 06:13 |
tchaypo | what did you end up doing to fix that? | 06:13 |
xuhaiwei | I fix that bug like your patch | 06:14 |
xuhaiwei | + if $(grep -qi jinja2 "$reqs"); then + pip install MarkupSafe | 06:14 |
tchaypo | does your pypi mirror have pastedeploy in there with some other capitalisation? | 06:15 |
xuhaiwei | yes | 06:15 |
xuhaiwei | PasteDeploy | 06:15 |
tchaypo | I'm guessing that a similar ugly fix would probably work here then | 06:17 |
xuhaiwei | and add this ? + pin install PasteDeploy | 06:18 |
tchaypo | although obviously you'd have to look at the logs and figure out which parent package is causing this dependency to be loaded | 06:18 |
xuhaiwei | + pip install PasteDeploy | 06:18 |
xuhaiwei | this failed by installing pastedeploy | 06:19 |
xuhaiwei | Downloading/unpacking pastedeploy>=1.3.3 (from -r /opt/stack/swift/requirements.txt | 06:19 |
tchaypo | that suggests it's directly in Swift's requirements | 06:22 |
tchaypo | you might be able to submit a patch to them with the correct case | 06:22 |
tchaypo | (but in the meantime the ugly hack is probably going to be needed) | 06:22 |
xuhaiwei | just add an line : pip install PasteDeploy in elements/os-svc-install/bin/os-svc-install? | 06:23 |
tchaypo | to be honest I can't remember where I put that ugly hack - but yes, putting it in the same place should work | 06:24 |
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xuhaiwei | ok | 06:29 |
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GheRivero_ | morning all | 06:50 |
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StevenK | GheRivero: Hai | 06:50 |
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GheRivero | morning StevenK | 06:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Nicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: SSH key and virtual_power_driver not used on H/W https://review.openstack.org/83770 | 07:25 |
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lifeless | tchaypo: StevenK: hola | 07:46 |
lifeless | I'm finally poking my head above water - any progress on passthrough ? | 07:46 |
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Ng | morning | 08:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Gonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: map-services: add apache2 in the list https://review.openstack.org/87092 | 08:14 |
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proffalken | hey all, I'm still seeing issues with the check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise job (0-byte log files and repeated failure) is this ia known issue still? | 08:32 |
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lifeless | proffalken: yes, it is. | 08:36 |
lifeless | Ng: morning | 08:36 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitry Shulyak proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add pacemaker and corosync as tripleo elements https://review.openstack.org/86069 | 08:36 |
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proffalken | lifeless: ok, thanks, I'll wait... ;) | 08:37 |
Ng | lifeless: yo | 08:37 |
lifeless | proffalken: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1307907 might be related | 08:38 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1307907 in tripleo "missing images/master_images directory for Ironic" [High,Triaged] | 08:38 |
lifeless | NobodyCam: ^ | 08:38 |
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dshulyak | morning tripleo | 08:44 |
dshulyak | can i ask for review of the pacemake and corosync elements? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86069/ | 08:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Eamonn O'Toole proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Place swift-servers in appropriate zones https://review.openstack.org/86375 | 08:52 |
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shadower | lsmola: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86915/ is a patch to t-h-t | 08:59 |
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shadower | it doesn't matter that it's undercloud (which will probably be a part of SpamapS' software config anyway) | 08:59 |
shadower | lsmola: point is: we should not merge any new t-h-t patches until software config lands | 09:00 |
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untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 09:00 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1302881 | 09:00 |
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uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1302881 in tripleo "incloud CIDR can overlap custom baremetal-network" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:00 |
lsmola | shadower: I've understood not to merge patches that conflicts with his | 09:00 |
shadower | lsmola: lemme read it again, but I'm pretty sure he meant don't merge any t-h-t patches | 09:01 |
lsmola | shadower: ok, if he plan to rewrite also undercloud there it make sense | 09:01 |
lsmola | shadower: but right now it does not, so having that patch as dependency does not make sense | 09:01 |
shadower | lsmola: "So, I am asking that if you plan on editting any of the yaml files in | 09:02 |
shadower | tripleo-heat-templates, that you rebase on top of that change, and | 09:02 |
shadower | please help test the migration." | 09:02 |
shadower | (quoth SpamapS) | 09:02 |
shadower | lsmola: it's not about the dependencies but about the fact that clint then has to rebase and retest and fix his patch on top of any change | 09:02 |
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shadower | which takes a long time | 09:03 |
lsmola | shadower: yeah so he does not have rebase conflicts | 09:03 |
lsmola | shadower: well it takes long time with conflicts, yes | 09:03 |
lsmola | shadower: but patch that doesn't conflict should not affect that | 09:04 |
jprovazn | dshulyak: going to look at it now | 09:04 |
lsmola | shadower: ok, will rebase and help you with testing | 09:04 |
shadower | thanks | 09:04 |
shadower | lsmola: this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87139/ and its dependescies are related iiuic | 09:04 |
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lsmola | shadower: ok, thanks | 09:05 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Macdonald-Wallace proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Create and set correct permissions on directories. https://review.openstack.org/87501 | 09:11 |
proffalken | lifeless: ^^^ | 09:11 |
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proffalken | it's a basic fix but shold get us up and running again if you're correct! :) | 09:12 |
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lifeless | proffalken: it has a typo :) | 09:19 |
proffalken | yeah, just saw that, good catch! :D | 09:20 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Macdonald-Wallace proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Create and set correct permissions on directories. https://review.openstack.org/87501 | 09:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Tzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Revert "Use HTTPClient from common apiclient code" https://review.openstack.org/87315 | 09:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Provide multiple levels for os-apply-config https://review.openstack.org/87512 | 09:38 |
openstackgerrit | Coleman Corrigan proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add NovaDBPassword to under + overcloud templates https://review.openstack.org/87316 | 09:42 |
lifeless | proffalken: sorry, one more tweak; I'm off to sleep will see if it is ready for +A in my morning | 09:47 |
proffalken | lifeless: ok | 09:47 |
proffalken | can you hang on two ticks and I'll get it up there now? | 09:47 |
openstackgerrit | Eamonn O'Toole proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Place swift-servers in appropriate zones https://review.openstack.org/86375 | 09:48 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Macdonald-Wallace proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Create and set correct permissions on directories. https://review.openstack.org/87501 | 09:48 |
proffalken | lifeless: ^^ change made :) | 09:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Eamonn O'Toole proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Place swift-servers in appropriate zones https://review.openstack.org/86375 | 09:56 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add mapping for mariadb rdo package https://review.openstack.org/87290 | 10:02 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add mapping for mariadb rdo package https://review.openstack.org/87290 | 10:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Jon-Paul Sullivan (jp_at_hp) proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Move instead of copy the temporary git manifest https://review.openstack.org/87535 | 10:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Stuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Run the overcloud with an SSL enabled public IP https://review.openstack.org/85098 | 10:37 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Allow install mariadb from RDO repository https://review.openstack.org/87295 | 10:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add Django 1.5 and 1.6 to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/87558 | 11:59 |
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cody-somerville | Morning Tripleo Folks :) | 12:04 |
rcarrillocruz | morning cody-somerville | 12:06 |
cody-somerville | Hey there rcarrillocruz :) | 12:07 |
openstackgerrit | Peter Belanyi proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add CLI option for running Selenium tests headless https://review.openstack.org/87567 | 12:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Stuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: ssl: Bring up a virtual IP on the overcloud https://review.openstack.org/85100 | 12:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Adding undercloud ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/86915 | 12:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add elasticsearch element https://review.openstack.org/86316 | 12:43 |
openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add openjdk-7-jre element https://review.openstack.org/86314 | 12:43 |
openstackgerrit | Alexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add logstash element https://review.openstack.org/86315 | 12:43 |
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NobodyCam | lifeless: ahh nice.. I commented on the patch for that bug. | 12:45 |
NobodyCam | now I need to see why Ironic is not creating the image and master_image directories. (https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ironic-conductor/install.d/68-ironic-tftp-support#L19) should have allowed it to... | 12:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Macdonald-Wallace proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Create and set correct permissions on directories. https://review.openstack.org/87501 | 13:05 |
proffalken | NobodyCam: updated, thanks | 13:05 |
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NobodyCam | proffalken: :) I'm looking as to why we need that. | 13:06 |
proffalken | sure. any chance we can get it approved anyway so that we can get element jobs merging again? | 13:07 |
NobodyCam | proffalken: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ironic-conductor/install.d/68-ironic-tftp-support#L19 | 13:07 |
proffalken | ;) | 13:07 |
NobodyCam | that | 13:07 |
NobodyCam | and https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py#L330-L331 | 13:07 |
NobodyCam | should create the directory | 13:07 |
NobodyCam | so I'm not sure why its needed.. :/ | 13:08 |
proffalken | so in the bug, lifeless said that the "master_path" might be a "need to have" as well as the "images" dir. I can see how pxe.py would create the master_images but not how it would create "images"? | 13:10 |
proffalken | s/master_path/master_images | 13:10 |
proffalken | (unless I'm being really dumb here, which is entirely possible!) | 13:10 |
NobodyCam | proffalken: not at all.. I'm still looking.. :) | 13:11 |
proffalken | :D | 13:11 |
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NobodyCam | proffalken: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py#L378 | 13:14 |
proffalken | :-/ | 13:15 |
proffalken | https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py#L234 <- I assume that CONF.pxe.images_path has a sensible default? | 13:16 |
* proffalken looks up the config file again | 13:16 | |
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proffalken | yup https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/etc/ironic/ironic.conf.sample#L856 | 13:17 |
NobodyCam | :) I'm ok with the patch, just not sure its needed | 13:18 |
proffalken | NobodyCam: looks that way, I agree, but does that mean its not a bug and we're failing somewhere else? | 13:18 |
* proffalken isn't working on the ironic stuff at the moment really, just trying to get the CI working again so he can get his monitoring changes approved! | 13:19 | |
NobodyCam | what we may need to do is set the defaults in the conf file to point to /mnt/* | 13:22 |
NobodyCam | well wait | 13:22 |
NobodyCam | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ironic/os-apply-config/etc/ironic/ironic.conf#L33-L34 | 13:22 |
NobodyCam | they are set | 13:22 |
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NobodyCam | proffalken: commented on the review. | 13:40 |
proffalken | NobodyCam: so I'm going to chicken out here and ask lifeless to take a look when he wakes up... ;) | 13:43 |
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NobodyCam | proffalken: and I have asked other ironic member to also look to make sure I'm not on crack | 13:45 |
NobodyCam | members* | 13:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Tzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Revert "Use HTTPClient from common apiclient code" https://review.openstack.org/87315 | 13:48 |
openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Remove py3kcompat module https://review.openstack.org/87642 | 14:07 |
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dprince | derekh: I'm seeing metadata failures again? | 14:19 |
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derekh | dprince: I hadn't seen any today, where did you see them? | 14:19 |
dprince | derekh: I'm double checking, maybe I got something stale... | 14:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Shulyak proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add pacemaker and corosync as tripleo elements https://review.openstack.org/86069 | 14:23 |
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untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 15:00 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1302881 | 15:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1302881 in tripleo "incloud CIDR can overlap custom baremetal-network" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:00 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1308079 | 15:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308079 in tripleo "'No valid host' during overcloud build when using Ironic" [Undecided,New] | 15:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Shulyak proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add pacemaker and corosync as tripleo elements https://review.openstack.org/86069 | 15:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Gonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: debian: ability to use systemd https://review.openstack.org/86955 | 15:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Ana Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add Django 1.5 and 1.6 to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/87558 | 15:30 |
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SpamapS | lsmola: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87139/ passed your recheck (actually all 3 did) so maybe we can +A them all? | 16:03 |
lsmola | SpamapS: cool, will do that in a minute | 16:04 |
dprince | SpamapS: if you have 2 +2's and CI is passing I don't see any issues in +Aing your own sir | 16:05 |
dprince | SpamapS: at least other projects behave this way... | 16:06 |
lsmola | SpamapS: hm this one didn't rechecked yet https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87124/ | 16:08 |
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lsmola | SpamapS: seems like only the first one passed, the gate is being super slow | 16:09 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Cover deployments explosion case better in tests https://review.openstack.org/87123 | 16:10 |
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lsmola | SpamapS: dprince but yes, the rule is to have two +2, so if it will pass the gate, feel free to approve it yourself | 16:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: TEST ONLY: make nova depend on common-venv https://review.openstack.org/79989 | 16:41 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add a new common-venv element https://review.openstack.org/76967 | 16:41 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Horizon: dynamically set config time env vars https://review.openstack.org/82611 | 16:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enhancements to ml2_conf.ini https://review.openstack.org/87729 | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Configurable Keystone token provider https://review.openstack.org/84807 | 16:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Stuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Glance: Update yaml to use api and registry params https://review.openstack.org/78285 | 17:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: TEST ONLY: make nova depend on common-venv https://review.openstack.org/79989 | 17:39 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add a new common-venv element https://review.openstack.org/76967 | 17:39 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Horizon: dynamically set config time env vars https://review.openstack.org/82611 | 17:39 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix dhcp-all-interfaces on Ubuntu/Debian. https://review.openstack.org/84466 | 18:24 |
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lifeless | hi guys | 18:30 |
lifeless | can I get someone to run the meeting today ? I have to run a local errand right now and will be back aout 20m into the meeting | 18:31 |
lifeless | <- fearlessly delegating | 18:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add configuration options for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/87752 | 18:37 |
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lifeless | oh also we should talk about having a review driven spec thingy | 18:42 |
dprince | lifeless: like nova does now? ++ | 18:42 |
dprince | lifeless: I'd like that much better than etherpads (for some things). The color coding in etherpads makes me want to stop re-reading them after a while | 18:43 |
lifeless | dprince: yeah, so we might still use etherpads to bootstrap thing | 18:44 |
lifeless | dprince: I've sent mail to the list | 18:45 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable stable-interface-names on RH ci cloud https://review.openstack.org/87757 | 18:50 |
dprince | lifeless: how do you feel about dropping the ironic job as voting? | 18:51 |
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dprince | lifeless: it has been failing consistently for weeks now... | 18:52 |
lifeless | dprince: its not voting | 18:52 |
bnemec | dprince: Already proposed that to infra. | 18:52 |
lifeless | dprince: there was a patch to signal to zuul that its not voting but EBACKLOG | 18:52 |
bnemec | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85468/ | 18:52 |
dprince | lifeless: note voting... but excluding it | 18:52 |
lifeless | dprince: I sent mail about its status way back when | 18:52 |
lifeless | dprince: we need to run it, NobodyCam is working on fixing it | 18:52 |
dprince | lifeless: right, well its still failing. Just annoying to see everything turning red all the time | 18:53 |
lifeless | dprince: I concur! | 18:53 |
bnemec | hence the nonvoting change. :-) | 18:53 |
dprince | bnemec: I'd say lets do it only for Ironic, Fedora has been passing intermittently (hopefully getting better though) | 18:54 |
dprince | bnemec: people seem to wait on it at least sometimes | 18:54 |
lifeless | dprince: until its approximately the same reliability as e.g. overcloud, its not meant to be voting | 18:54 |
bnemec | dprince: Right, but we've gone back and forth on that like 3 times already and I don't want to keep churning that review. | 18:55 |
bnemec | I think the last three patch sets have all been "f20 is working...oh wait, it's not...now it is!" :-) | 18:56 |
dprince | bnemec: so long as we do them both I'm fine with it I suppose. Carry on sir | 18:56 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test the upgrade codepath works as well. https://review.openstack.org/87758 | 18:56 |
dprince | bnemec: sure, I'm fine tuning it. The fact that resources are sparse (and the jobs are slow) isn't helping. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a common venv to speed things up! | 18:56 |
bnemec | dprince: Yeah, and the other thing is that it's easier to tell the cores "f20 is considered voting now" than it is to get the word out to all of the contributors that failures aren't a problem, when the job claims to have failed. | 18:56 |
bnemec | dprince: Heh :-) | 18:57 |
dprince | lifeless: I think I've address all comments here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76966/20/elements/ceilometer/environment.d/10-ceilometer-venv-dir.bash | 18:57 |
dprince | lifeless: FWIW I don't want to do that in a single line because stylistically I didn't elsewhere. | 18:57 |
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dprince | lifeless: *and* the Nova element is an important exception in that it defaults to "-s" for the NOVA_EXTRA_INSTALL_OPTS | 18:58 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Test that collect_all works when nothing changed https://review.openstack.org/87124 | 18:58 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Commit changes to exploded deployments to cache https://review.openstack.org/87139 | 18:59 |
shadower | SpamapS: it's in the can ^ | 19:00 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Db-sync the Ceilometer database https://review.openstack.org/87215 | 19:00 |
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SpamapS | shadower: woooooooooot | 19:05 |
SpamapS | shadower: once it merges we'll need to release it. | 19:05 |
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shadower | SpamapS: yep. I'll test it tomorrow am | 19:06 |
shadower | I mean test the software config patch | 19:06 |
shadower | SpamapS: do you want to migrate the undercloud in the same patch or do that separately? | 19:07 |
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SpamapS | shadower: separately | 19:23 |
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SpamapS | shadower: We tend to trickle things back from overcloud -> undercloud because the undercloud is always less fancy | 19:23 |
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shadower | SpamapS: yup, makes sense. When are you coming back from the vacation? Are you okay if we wrap it up in our absence? | 19:24 |
shadower | (if possible) | 19:24 |
shadower | *your absence | 19:24 |
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SpamapS | shadower: I'll be back tomorrow-ish | 19:37 |
SpamapS | shadower: quite happy for things to progress w/o me :) | 19:37 |
shadower | haha okay, occ should be packaged in my morning so I'll try it out and will see how it goes | 19:37 |
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tchaypo | speaking of reviews that are waiting for a final +2 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83294/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84640/ are both in that state | 19:40 |
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SpamapS | shadower: I can release it now unless there is some reason not to. I'm online for the next two hours or so. | 19:41 |
shadower | SpamapS: slagle said he'll do the releases, I'd say enjoy your vacation ;-) | 19:42 |
SpamapS | ahh cool | 19:46 |
SpamapS | I just want to do a 'recheck no bug' on 81666 after we release | 19:46 |
greghaynes | I had a success full devtest run with it + o-c-c patches yesterday \O/ | 19:47 |
shadower | awesome | 19:47 |
bnemec | ccrouch: I think there may have been some details about how to organize bp reviews in this thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029232.html | 19:48 |
bnemec | Although it's a long thread and I've only been half-following it. :-) | 19:49 |
ccrouch | cheers :-) | 19:50 |
lifeless | tchaypo: ok so morning :) | 19:52 |
ccrouch | it does look like they are doing it by cycle at the moment: https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/tree/master/specs | 19:53 |
tchaypo | *grunts* | 19:54 |
SpamapS | I wouldn't organize by cycle. | 19:54 |
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tchaypo | Monday I confirmed that o-a-c can do roughly what we want, assuming a standard INI-file structure, and not worrying about possibly duplicated [section]s | 19:55 |
ccrouch | well the nova folks certainly seem to be liking the process in general | 19:57 |
ccrouch | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-specs-reviewers-30.txt | 19:57 |
tchaypo | yesterday I worked back from there to figure out how the configs would get into a place where o-a-c can act on them, and got as far as trying to figure out how we we would tell heat if the extra-bits file changes | 19:57 |
tchaypo | which is great because I now think I understand a lot more of what happens when we're building images/machines | 19:58 |
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jdob | lifeless: "review based conceptual design process" meaning have the design docs in git and we use the gerritt +/- stuff to discuss and approve them? | 20:00 |
tchaypo | my plan for today (post-caffeine) is to figure out if heat will notice if a file included with get_file is updated, or if that's only parsed when the stack is being created/updated and we'd need to manually stack-update | 20:00 |
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ccrouch | jdob: https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/tree/master/specs | 20:01 |
jdob | ya, cool, heat is doing something similar, i like that | 20:01 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: get_file is client side when templates are being pushed. It always does the get_file. | 20:02 |
tchaypo | but reading the docs it seems that it does neither, it just creates a dictionary of filenames that the client needs to read | 20:03 |
tchaypo | so it seems like if we wanted to use that we'd have to already have some way to push the updated file onto the nodes that need the config | 20:03 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: so create, update, and adopt, will read the file into the template. | 20:03 |
tchaypo | or a place to serve it over http | 20:03 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: nooo get_file pulls on the heat client | 20:03 |
slagle | os-collect-config is released | 20:03 |
SpamapS | slagle: woot | 20:03 |
tchaypo | oh right. *that* client. | 20:04 |
tchaypo | not the thing reading the metadata, the thing creating the stack | 20:04 |
SpamapS | correct | 20:04 |
tchaypo | okay, that's easy then. | 20:04 |
SpamapS | relative files work fine | 20:04 |
lifeless | jdob: yes | 20:04 |
SpamapS | so you can bundle a template w/ files it needs to get | 20:04 |
tchaypo | do you know what happens if the file isn't found? | 20:05 |
tchaypo | so we bundle a bunch of empty templates, and the deployer fills them out with the options they need to be passed through? | 20:07 |
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SpamapS | tchaypo: notfound causes heatclient to raise CommandError | 20:10 |
lifeless | I think it would be ok to require an empty passthrough file | 20:12 |
lifeless | to be present | 20:13 |
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tchaypo | if they're using t-i-e or t-h-t out of git that isn't too much of an issue - at worst they can stash, pull, unstash | 20:14 |
tchaypo | if they've installed the package via pip, does it have an equivalent to a config file in a .deb? | 20:15 |
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lifeless | tchaypo: uhm | 20:18 |
lifeless | tchaypo: I mean e.g. the path would be ./passthrough.json | 20:18 |
lifeless | tchaypo: and the user would make that | 20:18 |
tchaypo | one .json with all of the options for all of the things? | 20:19 |
tchaypo | and each element/service/whatever looks for a key with its name and pulls that out? | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Explicitly use bash https://review.openstack.org/87781 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: set -e all the things https://review.openstack.org/83927 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure all scripts are set -e https://review.openstack.org/81637 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix set -eu and pipefail failures https://review.openstack.org/85861 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Check for set -o pipefail https://review.openstack.org/83929 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: set -u and -o pipefail everywhere https://review.openstack.org/84868 | 20:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Ensure scripts are set -u https://review.openstack.org/83928 | 20:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Allow adding passwords in setup-*-passwords https://review.openstack.org/87039 | 20:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: set -e all the things https://review.openstack.org/83927 | 20:53 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Explicitly use bash https://review.openstack.org/87781 | 20:53 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make sure all scripts are set -e https://review.openstack.org/81637 | 20:53 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix set -eu and pipefail failures https://review.openstack.org/85861 | 20:54 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Check for set -o pipefail https://review.openstack.org/83929 | 20:54 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: set -u and -o pipefail everywhere https://review.openstack.org/84868 | 20:54 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Ensure scripts are set -u https://review.openstack.org/83928 | 20:54 |
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goneri | bnemec :) | 20:54 |
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untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 21:00 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1308224 | 21:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1308224 in diskimage-builder "cannot stat .../etc/dib_arguments" [Undecided,New] | 21:00 |
untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1302881 | 21:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1302881 in tripleo "incloud CIDR can overlap custom baremetal-network" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:00 |
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goneri | SpamapS: actually, upstart doesn't work with Wheezy too because of the same conflict on sysvinit | 21:26 |
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lifeless | mikal: ah, I only realised now that your initial mail to me was direct | 21:31 |
lifeless | mikal: I thought it was a list-mail. | 21:31 |
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jang1 | hey goneri. | 21:32 |
jang1 | what's the conflict? | 21:32 |
goneri | sysvinit is an essential package, apt-get won't accept to replace it with upstart | 21:33 |
goneri | and that's what append during the debootstrap | 21:33 |
goneri | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=668001 | 21:33 |
uvirtbot | Debian bug 668001 in debootstrap "debootstrap: cant install systemd instead of sysvinit" [Normal,Open] | 21:33 |
goneri | I'm refreshing my patch to deal with this case. | 21:34 |
lifeless | tchaypo: so are you building on the software-config branch, or the current heat templates? | 21:35 |
lifeless | tchaypo: and do you have any WIP I can dive in on, or just scratchpad stuf ? | 21:35 |
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jang1 | I know that upstart, at least, has a hook installed by default to trigger sysv init.d scripts. | 21:39 |
goneri | jang1: the probleme is during upstart installation in the debootstrap chroot | 21:40 |
SpamapS | jang1: /etc/init/rc.conf | 21:40 |
goneri | sysvinit is already there and flagged “essential” and apt-get don't want to break the situation | 21:41 |
SpamapS | goneri: upstart handles this just fine.. not sure why | 21:42 |
mikal | lifeless: heh | 21:42 |
goneri | SpamapS: it does on unstable, actually | 21:44 |
goneri | SpamapS: but there is the same issue on Wheezy | 21:44 |
SpamapS | goneri: well you have my thoughts on that. | 21:44 |
SpamapS | :) | 21:44 |
goneri | I'm refactoring my patch to avoid the situation | 21:45 |
SpamapS | chasing wheezy and systemd isn't worth anybody's time IMO. | 21:45 |
goneri | SpamapS: hum, can you elaborate :) | 21:45 |
goneri | I speak about upstart, not systemd | 21:45 |
SpamapS | same answer :) | 21:46 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Permit cache-url to work with fifos. https://review.openstack.org/85224 | 21:46 |
SpamapS | goneri: I don't believe that stable Debian is a usable thing for anything but the smallest scale deployments though, so I may be biased. | 21:46 |
SpamapS | without an LTS, you're _far_ better off running unstable | 21:47 |
goneri | SpamapS: Wheezy and Precise are very similar | 21:47 |
lifeless | goneri: precise is obsolete :) | 21:47 |
lifeless | trusty 4 eva | 21:47 |
goneri | =) | 21:48 |
greghaynes | one more day until its obsolete over here | 21:48 |
greghaynes | or maybe its two more days | 21:48 |
jang1 | heh. That wheezy patch broke my "debian behind a proxy server" installation. | 21:48 |
jang1 | I only found that out at the weekend. | 21:48 |
jang1 | when I was behind a different proxy and unable to see a different part of the internet. | 21:48 |
jang1 | I think the only thing I miss from the move from academia to the corporate world is the mahoozabit per second unfettered access direct to the internet. | 21:49 |
tchaypo | lifeless: so far it's all in my head | 21:50 |
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lifeless | bnemec: https://review.openstack.org/85224 - you can upgrade your +1 to a +2 now :) | 21:53 |
lifeless | greghaynes: welcome to core | 21:53 |
lifeless | jdob is done too | 21:53 |
bnemec | \o/ | 21:53 |
bnemec | lifeless: Thanks :-) | 21:53 |
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greghaynes | \O/ | 21:54 |
greghaynes | bnemec, (the late jdob), congrats! | 21:54 |
bnemec | greghaynes: Likewise :-) | 21:55 |
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goneri | bnemec, greghaynes cool :) | 21:56 |
tchaypo | ho hum bnemec | 21:56 |
tchaypo | your patch to setup-overcloud-passwords is very nice, but is going to cause a merge conflict with mine | 21:57 |
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bnemec | lifeless: Before I +2, I'm confused why we can't write to the target directory in the fifo case. | 21:58 |
bnemec | I actually prefer putting the temp files in /tmp, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something. | 21:59 |
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tchaypo | bnemec: actually i think the merge conflict isn't so bad. My change sets a default location for the file and copies the old file across if it exists; we should be able to do that and then run your change over the (possibly relocated) file. | 22:02 |
vinsh | Does anybody have a semi current heat template for multiple control nodes? | 22:02 |
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tchaypo | vinsh: i think greghaynes hasbeen working on one | 22:02 |
bnemec | tchaypo: That sounds reasonable. Am I on your review already? | 22:03 |
bnemec | I recall looking at that, but not sure if I commented. | 22:03 |
vinsh | Cool.. the one from jprovazn out there is to old to use (for me).. and I can't seem to trick heat into dealing with my modified overcloud-source.yaml.. the "cfn config" file never makes it onto the control nodes when I try to make more then one. | 22:04 |
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tchaypo | bnemec: *checks gerrit* oh, my review isn't in the "Started by james polley" list, so maybe it landed when I wasn't paying attention | 22:07 |
tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83250/ | 22:07 |
bnemec | tchaypo: Heh, that's always nice. | 22:08 |
greghaynes | vinsh: I havent adapted one to software-config style yet... I dont see what that should be hard to do though and I would reccomend this as it will be the new norm in not long | 22:11 |
SpamapS | greghaynes: other than adding a --scale what is the main challenge you face? | 22:11 |
vinsh | which part will be new norm? | 22:11 |
tchaypo | vinsh: software-config style | 22:12 |
SpamapS | vinsh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81666/ | 22:12 |
vinsh | ya ya.. been hearing that term around.. and that review ya | 22:12 |
vinsh | ok | 22:12 |
greghaynes | SpamapS: the trivial --scale chane is already up for review actually, I havent tried since the SW config change but it wasnt generating a sane heat template beforehand | 22:12 |
SpamapS | greghaynes: I think that was a bug in the software-config patch, which I have since corrected | 22:13 |
greghaynes | ooo | 22:13 |
greghaynes | on a somewhat-related note: I am a little confused on how to use wait conditions to lock out all the nodes from one for running db migrations | 22:16 |
greghaynes | Initially I was thinking I would have non-0 nodes check the wait condition status and exit 1 until the master one submits a success to wait condition | 22:16 |
mikal | lifeless: I've started building an etherpad of possible clashes with a mid cycle meetup -- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-midcycle-options -- thoughts welcome | 22:16 |
greghaynes | but not sure that jives with what cfn waitconditions are supposed to be used for | 22:17 |
greghaynes | SpamapS: ^ | 22:17 |
SpamapS | greghaynes: Well, you can probably use them like semaphores, except I don't think their consistency w/ metadata is guaranteed. | 22:20 |
greghaynes | hrm, thats essentially what I was hoping... got any tips on how to use them as a semaphore? | 22:21 |
SpamapS | greghaynes: but basically you'd send the signal that you want to do it, and then examine the waitcondition's count. | 22:22 |
greghaynes | ok, so theres just a rest endpoint I need to locate to read count | 22:22 |
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SpamapS | greghaynes: what's really needed is a distributed lock.. which I think will be hard / impossible w/ just Heat | 22:26 |
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greghaynes | Yes :_( | 22:27 |
greghaynes | I was hoping just hard. My original idea was to use galera (which should be up at this point) to solve this issue | 22:27 |
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SpamapS | greghaynes: That is a valid approach. | 22:28 |
greghaynes | lifeless: ^ | 22:28 |
SpamapS | greghaynes: you can also solve it with rabbitmq. :) | 22:28 |
greghaynes | eek | 22:28 |
SpamapS | In fact it isn't even a lock you want, it is a queue. | 22:29 |
tchaypo | bnemec: Why a queue? | 22:29 |
greghaynes | I think just a state machine | 22:29 |
tchaypo | s/bnemec: // | 22:29 |
SpamapS | because you want to do something once | 22:29 |
SpamapS | not exclusively, just only once | 22:30 |
SpamapS | so gearman would work perfectly even | 22:30 |
greghaynes | well, theres a couple states, and i want the whole cluster to advance to state A, then proceed to state B | 22:30 |
tchaypo | this sounds like you need some sort of consensus protocol underpinning the state machine | 22:30 |
SpamapS | right so if you just run workers that know how to go from ? to A, and A to B, then you only insert 1 "go from state ? to A" job | 22:31 |
SpamapS | gah no | 22:31 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: overthinking | 22:31 |
tchaypo | SpamapS: i do that sometimes. | 22:31 |
SpamapS | The whole thing just asserts state inside OpenStack | 22:31 |
SpamapS | so OpenStack will know its' state | 22:31 |
tchaypo | what happens if the node that took the "from A to B" job fails before it completes? | 22:32 |
SpamapS | you just don't want to have 3 things trying to do it at once. You want one thing. | 22:32 |
tchaypo | I'm assuming gearman must alraedy handle that? | 22:32 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: A to B needs to be idempotent :) | 22:32 |
greghaynes | yea, so really both rabbit and galera seem straightforward to me... no idea about this gearman thing | 22:32 |
greghaynes | I can do some reading though | 22:33 |
SpamapS | greghaynes: think rabbitmq with about 500% less code and capability. :) | 22:33 |
greghaynes | that actually sounds amazing | 22:33 |
SpamapS | there's a pure python daemon for it, and a command line client that is dead simple. | 22:33 |
SpamapS | infra uses the python daemon, called 'gear'. | 22:33 |
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SpamapS | anyway, time to do more vacationy stuff before I head down the hill tomorrow. :) | 22:34 |
greghaynes | yep, thanks! | 22:35 |
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lifeless | greghaynes: oh hai | 22:44 |
greghaynes | hihi | 22:45 |
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vinsh | greghaynes, public jira? or hpcloud jira? | 22:55 |
vinsh | all about the proxy exclude list :) | 22:55 |
greghaynes | hpcloud | 22:57 |
greghaynes | yea, I just got someone to send me a copy of theirs :) | 22:57 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Deploy overcloud images from seed https://review.openstack.org/85126 | 23:02 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make it possible to just build images. https://review.openstack.org/85222 | 23:02 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Encapsulate getting image for a deployment. https://review.openstack.org/85130 | 23:02 |
lifeless | tchaypo: ok I've updated my outstanding patches; what should I do to sync efforts w/you ? | 23:02 |
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tchaypo | are those patches related to the passthrough config thing, or is that just a thing you were getting off your plate first? | 23:07 |
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lifeless | tchaypo: stuff that needed fixes / rebasing | 23:11 |
tchaypo | All I've done so far is what I've linked from the etherpad - confirmed that we can take generic settings in json and confirmed that we can use mustache to write them out. Yesterday I was reading/running os-refresh-config and os-collect-config and then figuring out what data heat is serving and where it comes from - necessary for me to learn to progress, but I don't think there's anything there you'll need to | 23:11 |
tchaypo | sync with | 23:11 |
lifeless | ok | 23:12 |
lifeless | so I think then I need to get up to speed on clints softrware-config branch | 23:12 |
lifeless | greghaynes: yo | 23:12 |
lifeless | greghaynes: you say you've made that work. What was involved. | 23:12 |
tchaypo | I was thinking that the next step for me would be to look at one of the outstanding changes and model how to put the data into an extra_config.json, then heat stack-update with that extra data included, and make sure i understand how os-collect-config will pull that onto the node | 23:13 |
greghaynes | lifeless: just used the os-c-c reviews which are now merged (but I believe not released) and alls good | 23:13 |
lifeless | greghaynes: I thought we installed os-c-c from pypi ? | 23:14 |
greghaynes | yes | 23:14 |
greghaynes | hrm | 23:14 |
greghaynes | good point | 23:14 |
greghaynes | I did witness a CREATE_COMPLETE.... | 23:15 |
tchaypo | once I know how that works (and have a sample heat template snippet that adds the extra-config-goes-here block) I plan to deal with figuring out how to tell users to provide these extra configs | 23:15 |
tchaypo | but right now my biggest blocker is that I haven't had breakfast or coffee and I'm just staring at a screen, so I plan to deal with that first | 23:15 |
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lifeless | tchaypo: mmm food | 23:16 |
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tchaypo | lifeless: I think there's still a lot of learning I'm going to need to do to get this complete. I'm not sure if my need to learn outweighs the team's need to get this landed | 23:16 |
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greghaynes | if im starting to dream of CREATE_COMPLETE's I might be a little scared | 23:18 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Deploy overcloud images from seed https://review.openstack.org/85126 | 23:20 |
openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Encapsulate getting image for a deployment. https://review.openstack.org/85130 | 23:20 |
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lifeless | tchaypo: we do indeed need it landed; I propose to hack on it in parallel with you learning | 23:26 |
lifeless | tchaypo: your learning is verra important ;) | 23:26 |
tchaypo | that sounds like a good plan to me :) | 23:27 |
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tchaypo | Remember how last ~thursday I said that it seemed hugely scary/daunting? I've learnt enough since then that it now seems merely challenging, and the challenge seems like it's mostly in the number of knowledge gaps | 23:28 |
greghaynes | Yep, thats a familiar feeling :) | 23:29 |
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openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Encapsulate getting image for a deployment. https://review.openstack.org/85130 | 23:32 |
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greghaynes | lifeless: Did you catch the gist of the waitconditions chat eariler? | 23:43 |
lifeless | nope :) | 23:43 |
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lifeless | something about different ways to avoid having a consensus state machine :) | 23:43 |
greghaynes | yes, exactly. and that trying to use heat for that was not advised | 23:43 |
greghaynes | Gearman was proposed, I need to do some reading on it before I can have an actual opinion on that route | 23:44 |
lifeless | ok | 23:45 |
lifeless | so I've had my head in a hole with actual hardware and meetings all week | 23:45 |
lifeless | lets see if I've paged it all | 23:45 |
lifeless | we need to not run migrations on more than one machine | 23:45 |
lifeless | and we also desire to not start up services on other machines that we wouldn't normally run until post-migration-completion ? | 23:46 |
greghaynes | yes. and also all the nodes should probably not start setting up services until migrations complete on the master | 23:46 |
lifeless | I think the last two lines of scroll back are the same thing? | 23:46 |
greghaynes | yep | 23:46 |
lifeless | ok | 23:46 |
lifeless | so right now we do start up services early | 23:46 |
lifeless | specifically neutron-*-agent running on all the compute nodes | 23:47 |
lifeless | with no interlock | 23:47 |
lifeless | so my first question is, is a scaled control plane worse in this regard, or is it just as bad but more visible? | 23:47 |
greghaynes | I would say we are just adding more of the same style of bad - more services doing early startup without interlock | 23:48 |
lifeless | ok | 23:48 |
greghaynes | but not sure if theres necessarially a worse error that will manifest itself | 23:48 |
lifeless | so, can we land yourstuff without this protection, and add better protection as a subsequent iteration ? | 23:49 |
lifeless | since we don't have the protection now | 23:49 |
lifeless | e.g. will it 'work but omg I'm going blind' ? | 23:49 |
greghaynes | haha. Ill investigate and let you know | 23:49 |
greghaynes | alternatvie plan down that route - make node1..n not start until node0 fires wait condition | 23:50 |
greghaynes | which I believe *can* do | 23:50 |
greghaynes | er, which I believe heat *can* do | 23:50 |
lifeless | I like it as a workaround indeed | 23:50 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Add collector for heat API resource metadata https://review.openstack.org/84269 | 23:51 |
greghaynes | fun, ill let you know how bad the explosions are from plan A | 23:51 |
greghaynes | which is the just try it as is and see what sticks plan | 23:52 |
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